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sweet charm
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Tbh it's just storage for me... mainly in my build imma be using my ssd and my m.2

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I'm getting them both in 1tb, but the 3tb it's just cheap and used for if I run out of storage for my games

next tangle
sweet charm
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It's a good board, but it's not the best bang for your buck... that's why I was saying the tuf board.. it just has better vrm, but if you dont need it then yea it's all good

next tangle
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what's a vrm

sweet charm
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Are you not able to order from pc part picker??

next tangle
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No I live near Fry's

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And they have some cheap prices for stuff

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What about that?

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@sweet charm

latent bronze
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Id stick with Ryzen still

sweet charm
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That works too, but the only reason I was saying to go with a ryzen 3rd gen, cause the specs are better than Intel now

latent bronze
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@sweet charm You saw that Comet Lake is going to be LGA 1200?

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Also @next tangle Ryzen right now is actually better because you would want price to performance

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And also the hard drive you picked is a enterprise edition you'd want something more like the BarraCuda

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Lastly you would never really want to buy used hard drive if those are ebay prices you put there because separated from a build there is a chance to have a bad drive or a fake one.

sweet charm
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Yea I heard, but I didnt completely understand it...

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Was trying to understand what it was about

latent bronze
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Pretty much the new Intel chips you have to buy a whole new motherboard

sweet charm
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Damn... always about the money

latent bronze
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This is why i like Ryzen cause i can keep using the same board

next tangle
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Oh

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Okay Ryzen it is

sweet charm
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Yea... that's, why I was telling him to get a more exspensive board... he wouldn't have to update bios or need a new one for awhile until a 4th gen ryzen came out

next tangle
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If I go with 9600K

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I can fit a 1660 Ti

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If I go 3600, I can fit 1660

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

latent bronze
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yes

next tangle
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What should I go with?

latent bronze
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You can use Intel/Nvidia, Intel/AMD, AMD/Nvidia and AMD/AMD

next tangle
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holy

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that is confusing

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What would be better?

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and what's a vrm?

latent bronze
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Right now with the Ryzen chips you can still use the 1660

deft python
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NVidia is the dominant make, so go with Nvidia

next tangle
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except for 5700XT

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those are good

deft python
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Unless you want to go with brand loyalty, then go AMD/Radeon

latent bronze
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@deft python They are in one market not all

sweet charm
deft python
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So far, Navi is nowhere near as good as Nvidia's midrange

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Sad to say

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Foolish to think otherwise

next tangle
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Really?

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5700XT's are 100$ less than 2070 Super

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and close to the same performance when paired with Ryzen

latent bronze
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The SU series after a certain period of time starts getting hotter than usual

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I have a SU650 and SU800 both after a month of using was a constant 50c when doing nothing

deft python
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With the 2070, you're paying for Ray Tracing basically

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Only like a handful of games support Ray Tracing, yeah

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But if you want bleeding edge and future proofing, you go with the 2070 Super

next tangle
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I mean

deft python
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Meh, I just like to drop by

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And chat

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When I'm not playing FFXIV

sweet charm
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It's just giving advice on cards๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

next tangle
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How about that

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I found that too

latent bronze
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Well we are also talking about builds so

next tangle
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And it's by a seller with like 260K stars

latent bronze
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M.2 is alright but that is also sata not NVMe

sweet charm
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Stock CPU cooler is okay, but I still recommend the cooler master 212 rgb black edition, best cooler for the price tbh

latent bronze
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Also like i said before don't buy drives on ebay there is a good chance you can get scammed or get a faulty drive

next tangle
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I can get a refund

latent bronze
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If it is faulty it doesn't present itself right away

sweet charm
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It can take any where from the first minute to months later

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To really know

latent bronze
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everything would look fine and all at first and then after the refund window is closed it can hit you

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And besides that you have no idea if the drive would even have the manufacture warranty

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i opt'd out for a faster SSD and went for a Seagate drive cause i have never had issues with them

sweet charm
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Yea, but his budget is close to 900

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Unless he wants to try and raise some extra to really get the extra stuff..

latent bronze
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Well what is he planning on playing for starters?

next tangle
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bro

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I don't even know if I can go with 900$

sweet charm
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Tbh I would recommend just getting the main component and then buying the rest later

latent bronze
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If you have 500$ now and you sell your system for between 200$ to 300$ and save a little extra you can buy a lot better than looking on ebay

sweet charm
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Yea was just abouta say that

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If not you can run a stock cooler and upgrade later on

latent bronze
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im fast ๐Ÿ˜›

sweet charm
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๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ‘Š

latent bronze
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oddly i type fast with using only 3 fingers lol

sweet charm
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Hahaha on my phone๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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Run a stock cooler for now and upgrade later

latent bronze
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the Wraith coolers are good for just the way things are

sweet charm
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Also cut down on memory too save some hassle to get the 1660ti

latent bronze
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@next tangle Tell me most of the games you play now and what you plan on playing in the future

sweet charm
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GPU is probably the most important thing in your pc other than cpu

latent bronze
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depending on what he plays he can go a little lower on the CPU

sleek mist
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can you do pro game streaming and editing on a i7 9700k 2070 super

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Highs rt tings

next tangle
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YES

sleek mist
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Settings

next tangle
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OF COURSE

sweet charm
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Yea

sleek mist
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Really?

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Itโ€™s my first pc and Iโ€™m looking to get that

next tangle
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Okay what can I get for 500$

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Like I can upgrade

sweet charm
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I'd recommend a ryzen 7 3700 or 3700x tho

sleek mist
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I was first thinking of getting a i9 9900k 2080 super, but is that overkill?

next tangle
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That's my PC right now

sweet charm
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Its overkill, but it's worth it

next tangle
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What can I upgrade for 500$?

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no it's not

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get the 3900x

sleek mist
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Should I go with i7 9700k 2070 super then

latent bronze
next tangle
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I should get a GPU though

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I wanna stream

latent bronze
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Would you go used for GPU's?

next tangle
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Yes

latent bronze
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RX 570 8gb or RX 580 4gb/8gb

sleek mist
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How much would it cost to make a very high quality i7 9700k 2070 super setup?

sweet charm
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Do that if you wanna go overkill

sleek mist
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nah man thatโ€™s 3400$

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I only wanna spend up to $2000, but can do less

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Would that be a good enough budget for pro gaming

next tangle
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@latent bronze Can you find one?

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It has to be 70$

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To be under the budget

sleek mist
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Pro youtube gaming and streaming + godlike editing?

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video editing

next tangle
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:/

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@sleek mist You can do it with like a 3700X and 5700XT or something

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You don't need to go extreme

sleek mist
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Really

next tangle
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YES

sleek mist
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To be a big ytber?

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I need to be a big youtuber

latent bronze
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@next tangle For GPU's on ebay it is best to take a chance from the bidding system

next tangle
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Big youtubers don't need a lot of money for a PC

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@sleek mist I have 1.4K subs and have a trash pc like this

sweet charm
next tangle
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I know I'm not famous..

latent bronze
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it is the only way to spend up to that 70$ mark

sleek mist
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@sweet charm bruh thatโ€™s so expensive tho

next tangle
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WHAT IS A VRM

latent bronze
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Some times you can get lucky from a bid cause i have won a few GPU's for less than 100

sleek mist
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Can I do what u said with a 2070 and i7

next tangle
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@sleek mist YOU DON'T NEED A LOT OF MONEY FOR A PC TO BE A BIG YOUTUEBR

sweet charm
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Hahaha it's just the monitor keyboard and mouse at the end

next tangle
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PEOPLE WITH LIKE 500 SUBS HAVE LIKE 9900K AND 2080 TIS

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I'VE SEEN IT

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sorry i didn't mean to have caps lmao

sweet charm
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The i7 is more exspensive

sleek mist
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I wanna be able to play all games at high settings

next tangle
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YOU CAN

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WITH A 5700XT AND 3700X

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OR 3700X AND 2080 SUPER

latent bronze
sweet charm
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@sleek mist my build is only exspensive cause of the monitor, keyboard and mouse

latent bronze
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Pretty much if you want to overclock it gets hotter so most motherboards will have a heatsink on it but only the more expensive one's

sweet charm
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If you subtract those it's only 1900 @sleek mist

latent bronze
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@next tangle one other thing you can do is keep using your RX 560 with the new build it won't hurt it and wait for the RX 5600 series

sweet charm
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@next tangle how old are you man?? Cause if your 16 or something, I just recommend you to get a job real quick and wait the 2 weeks to get like 200 dollars

sleek mist
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Actually I might get your build

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Does it run good and stuff?

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No issues

sweet charm
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Yes

latent bronze
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@sweet charm I have a case suggestion that would cost less than the case and RGB fans you picked

sweet charm
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Post it

sweet charm
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I just want the meshify due to it being really good for airflow.. think about putting 6 fans in it unless I can out more

sleek mist
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Should I do 2080 super i7 or i9 2070 super

latent bronze
sweet charm
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Was thinking about the rosewill too... but I want a black class due to it matching my room layout... blue, black and grey/steel

latent bronze
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They have a black version

sweet charm
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Go for the 2080 super it's more worth it

sleek mist
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And what procedure

sweet charm
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Is it dark tempered glass

sleek mist
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Processor

latent bronze
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clear tempered

sweet charm
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Stop before I get both๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

latent bronze
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i prefer clear cause i can really see inside my case

sweet charm
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Yea, true, but I also wanted the dark build too...

latent bronze
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and for where the AIO is located there is a vent on the other side and a panel that removes

sweet charm
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I still recommend ryzen 3rd gen.. @sleek mist only because it is on par and sometimes even better than intel now

sleek mist
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I donโ€™t know anything about those

latent bronze
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@sleek mist The problem i am seeing with Intel right now is if you want to do any upgrades for your CPU you need a new motherboard

sleek mist
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All I know about is intel

sweet charm
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The 3000 series for ryzen

sleek mist
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Really? You can change stuff if you use Ryzen

latent bronze
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yes

sweet charm
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Intel's new cpu coming out is gonna need a new motherboard to run, whenever you decide to upgrade to it

latent bronze
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they use the same socket for everything

sleek mist
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well Iโ€™m getting my pc in like 10 days

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Or less

sweet charm
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Ryzen all the way

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๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

sleek mist
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Ima look into Ryzen and amd

sweet charm
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Yup

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Go to linustechtips amd 3rd gen

sleek mist
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Wait but you donโ€™t need a new motherboard for graphics card right

sweet charm
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No

latent bronze
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the only difference is the 3700X has more threads which helps with a lot of things

sweet charm
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The 3700x is only 329 for me๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”

sleek mist
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so is Ryzen better

sweet charm
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Yes

rough loom
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yea

sweet charm
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Best bang for you buck and also has more thread

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S

rough loom
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9700k got dunked on hard. Only thing that intel has that holds a candle now is the 9900k

latent bronze
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My saying is go for price to performance than performance to price

sweet charm
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But you'd rather get the ryzen 9 3900x if you're trying to get a i9-9900k

sleek mist
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well idk this is my first pc

sweet charm
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More cores and threads

latent bronze
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If i remember the Ryzen 5 3600X has better single core performance from the 9900K lol

sleek mist
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I donโ€™t know whatโ€™s better

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for what Iโ€™m trynna do

sweet charm
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Yea it does

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Most games run on single thread anyways

rough loom
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you'll have more constancy with the 3700x, specially if anything is running in the backround while gaming

sleek mist
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Well yeah Iโ€™ll be recording and stuff

latent bronze
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@sleek mist Right now it is Ryzen and with future CPU's coming out for it you will have an upgrade path for it

sweet charm
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So streaming wise it is the better choice

sleek mist
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alright yeah I think ima go with Ryzen

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So 3700x is like the i7 9700k?

rough loom
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than yea. the extra threads allow you to offload more power and split the cpu more efficiently when recording or streaming

sweet charm
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Just use my build unless you want to change things around

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It's a solid build, cause it's my first one too

latent bronze
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Oddly i am changing my Asus motherboard for a ASRock one ๐Ÿ˜›

rough loom
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The litteral only advantage the 9700k has is if you overclock it to like 5 ghz

sweet charm
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Hehehe I'm getting asrock too๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

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The 3700x is 4.9ghz๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

sleek mist
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Iโ€™m not trynna overclock

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donโ€™t wanna mess anything up

coarse coral
rough loom
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than out of the box you'll have a better time with amd

sleek mist
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Since I know nothing about that type of stuff

sweet charm
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Yea 3700x is better without overclocking

rough loom
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3700x will overclock for you

sweet charm
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Yup

sleek mist
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so then for the graphics card I should go with a 2080 or 70 super

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seems like ur build was cheap with the 2080

rough loom
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if you wanna keep the graphics for 2 generations I would say 2080 super if you can

coarse coral
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if you can afford 2080 go for it

sleek mist
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My budget is 2k

sweet charm
latent bronze
sweet charm
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@sleek mist this video

sleek mist
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I have like $800 to spend on the monitor and keyboard and mouse. Desk and chair also

latent bronze
rough loom
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oh. that limits things

sleek mist
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yeah..

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unless bitcoin can rise a lil bit in 10 days

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monitor is prolly gonna be $500, thinking about getting the Alienware 25

sweet charm
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@sleek mist I would recommend a stronger motherboard if you're wanting to do video editing

sleek mist
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like what

sweet charm
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X570 tuf

sleek mist
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Iโ€™m new to editing, I just wanna be able to compete and edit like the pros

rough loom
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wait so is this 2k for the desktop and 800 for the other stuff?

sleek mist
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yeah

rough loom
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oooh

sleek mist
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the desktop might not even be $2k tho

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It might be less

sweet charm
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Hahah just buy what I'm geting๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ 2704.81

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100 for a chair

rough loom
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thats good budget for some yummy parts than. Than yea do a 2070 super or a 2080 super depending how you wanna adjust your budget

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those will be plenty

sweet charm
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๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

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2080 super is your best bey

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Bet

rough loom
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just dont expect 4k miricles with a 2070 super

latent bronze
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The TUF series is nice but if you want more RGB and great cooling you can go for the Steel Legend series instead ๐Ÿ˜›

sweet charm
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Yup

sleek mist
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Iโ€™m gonna make a pc part picker with everything I know rn

rough loom
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even 2080 super would be iffy with 4k

sweet charm
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Yea or just pay an extra 100 for the x570 taichi

next tangle
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@latent bronze rx 5600?

sweet charm
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Yea, but its be better than the 2070 @rough loom

sleek mist
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I donโ€™t need 4k tho lol

latent bronze
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@next tangle yes it is said to come out sometime this year and will be on par with the 1660/1660Ti

next tangle
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Well

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I mean

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If I go with 500$ I can't wait

sleek mist
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most streamers just chill with 1080 p right?

next tangle
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NO

sweet charm
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Yes

next tangle
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NO

latent bronze
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and most likely of course cost less

next tangle
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Not on Twitch

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Twitch is 990p

rough loom
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720p is plenty

next tangle
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720p

sleek mist
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oh dam

next tangle
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1080p (rarely)

sleek mist
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well it should be more than enough

next tangle
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990p is even hard to run with an 8700k and 2080

rough loom
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1080p monitor or 2k monitor should be plenty for gaming

sweet charm
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Tryna be the 1% that has 1080p

next tangle
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a 3700x and 2080 super, easily

rough loom
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just get a nice 2k monitor

latent bronze
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I have seen a lot of streamers do 1080p

next tangle
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If you want to know about streaming stuff,

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Talk to me

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@latent bronze Not stable though

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If it's on Twitch

sleek mist
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well Iโ€™m more focused on YT then streaming

next tangle
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No, it's pretty hard to do

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Oh then YouTube, yeah

latent bronze
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The only streamers that does 720p are people that has weaker systems

sweet charm
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Agreed @sleek mist

next tangle
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@sleek mist Even with expensive PC's, you won't get far

sleek mist
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Iโ€™m not really gonna try to stream till I get big

next tangle
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You need to know that before even starting a channel

sleek mist
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yeah ik

next tangle
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You need to have good audio

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Be good at editing

latent bronze
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@next tangle I have streamed at 1080p and it is very stable and i have had no complains when i asked people watching me

next tangle
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Put time into it

sleek mist
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yeah I gotta get a mic

next tangle
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Be repetitive

rough loom
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eh not exactly. twitch limits 1080p streaming to select groups

sweet charm
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Hahaha @sleek mist stream so people know how you are...

next tangle
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A lot more to YouTube

latent bronze
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Also at the time i was using a Ryzen 5 2400G as well

rough loom
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you have a bandwith limit

next tangle
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So

sleek mist
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yeah maybe

next tangle
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What should I get for 500$?

latent bronze
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The processor, motherboard and memory you should get for now use that and in time you then upgrade your GPU

sweet charm
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GPU is the most exspensive part about it

sleek mist
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whatโ€™s ur channel @next tangle

latent bronze
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@sweet charm depends on which GPU

sweet charm
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Rx5600

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400 minimum

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Probably 800 tho

latent bronze
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What country are you in?

sweet charm
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Usa

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$800us

latent bronze
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no way the RX 5600 will be 400

sweet charm
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Hahaha was just lowballing it

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I wish it was

next tangle
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@sleek mist not saying, I'm cringe

latent bronze
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The RX 5700 is almost 300$

sweet charm
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Yea I know

latent bronze
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so the 5600 will be closer in the 200$ range

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5600 is going lower

sweet charm
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My bad I was think of a different card

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๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

latent bronze
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what you're thinking of is 5800

sweet charm
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Hahaha

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Lmao

sleek mist
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what brand card should I get for the 2080 super

latent bronze
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EVGA

sweet charm
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Asus rig strix

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Rog*

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Haha

next tangle
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@sleek mist whatever you want ๐Ÿ˜‰

sleek mist
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yeah I heard evga was rly good for cooling

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and the Rog is crazy too

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Those were my 2 choices

sweet charm
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Asus rog strix has the best cooling rn

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1โฐC difference๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

sleek mist
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srsly

next tangle
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yis

latent bronze
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I have a Asus ROG Strix card and i actually had to replace the thermal paste after 8 months of using it

next tangle
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yis yis yis

rough loom
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hard to say whats in stock. Personally I go with EVGA

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if you want something more flashy looking go with another brand

sweet charm
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Dang did it @latent bronze

latent bronze
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@sweet charm want to see the poor thermal paste job on my card

next tangle
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yis yis yis

sweet charm
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Sure

latent bronze
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this is before changing it

next tangle
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Message me when you guys can talk about my 500$ budget for an upgrade

latent bronze
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it was more around the die than on it

rough loom
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non conductive paste so they kinda just slap it on there

latent bronze
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not only that it got hard to the point i had to chip it off the heatsink

sleek mist
latent bronze
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Deepcool Z9 which i have is non conductive

sleek mist
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thatโ€™s what I got so far

sweet charm
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Woaj

latent bronze
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@sleek mist are you planning on gaming 1080p, 1440p or 4K?

sweet charm
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Mostly 1080p streaming

sleek mist
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What do the tubers do

sweet charm
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1440

sleek mist
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Yeah then 1440

latent bronze
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Well streaming you can have it set for 1080p but your game you can have it on 1440p

sweet charm
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For those that have to power too

rough loom
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your play quality isnt the same as your recording quality

sleek mist
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I should get 1440p recording quality then

latent bronze
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You can still use the 2070 Super or you can use the 5700 XT

rough loom
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you can game at 2k or 4k and still record at 1440p or 1080p

sleek mist
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with the setup I linked?

rough loom
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with what you linked i would say 2k monitor

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4k is legit a waste right now

latent bronze
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@sleek mist the main question is what games are you playing and plan on playing

sleek mist
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idek yet lol

latent bronze
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well you can give a rough idea

sweet charm
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Rust so we can play together๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

rough loom
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so with what your building and going to be recording on. your gonna need some beefy storage

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since high res recordings use alot of space

sleek mist
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Definitely league and rust

latent bronze
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So you want him to play a troll game ๐Ÿค”

sweet charm
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Yay๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

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Haha

sleek mist
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How much storage would be good

latent bronze
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League can run on a potato system lol

sleek mist
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Like 3 TH?

sweet charm
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I recomend the 3 tb I was getting

sleek mist
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TB

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yeah

sweet charm
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Its $50us.. super cheap for 3tb

coarse coral
sleek mist
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SSD?

latent bronze
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When you stream are you using more than one monitor?

sleek mist
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Well I only wanna do 1 monitor now

rough loom
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like. 240/512 base for your main OS. and atleast 2tb secondary for larger games and recordings

sleek mist
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just cuz for the first but Iโ€™m only doing yt

rough loom
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if not another gaming ssd

latent bronze
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@sleek mist Ill show you something with AMD graphics can do for streaming

sweet charm
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Run 256 adata ultimate

sleek mist
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So 2tb SSD and a HDD of 500

sweet charm
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37.99

sleek mist
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ok

next tangle
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okay we done?

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nvm.

rough loom
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and then if you want another ssd for high demand in loading time games

latent bronze
sweet charm
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Recommend running 2 ssd or an m.2

latent bronze
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and the streaming chat box works for all streaming platforms

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Nvidia's in game stream chat only works with Facebook

sleek mist
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yeah that actually looks rly good

latent bronze
#

I have been using that for streaming and i have no issues

sleek mist
#

Since itโ€™ll prob be a few months before I get another monitor

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I can do that for now

rough loom
sweet charm
#

Recommend running 1tb m.s for game load time and 256gb ssd

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M.2*

latent bronze
#

for 1440p gaming and 1080p streaming you can use the 5700 Xt

sleek mist
#

Yeah but can I get 1440p recording for yt

sweet charm
#

Yes

latent bronze
sweet charm
#

Thinking about running 3 3tb hdd

rough loom
#

I have another drive I can plug in thats 3tb. I just dont use it

sweet charm
#

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

latent bronze
#

Also the one you see at 1.8tb (it is actually a 2TB drive) is a hybrid drive ๐Ÿ˜›

coarse coral
latent bronze
#

the other 3 are all SSD's

sleek mist
#

I added that adatta 256 SSD

latent bronze
#

theo you don't count lol

coarse coral
sweet charm
#

Unless you have the money to run a 1tb ssd @sleek mist

latent bronze
#

Besides i can plug in my 10 external drives to have more drives lol

sleek mist
#

ight lemme check

sweet charm
#

Its 99.99

#

Us

sleek mist
#

I mean I can prob do atleast 512

#

I still have $600 left in the budget

rough loom
#

build the rest of the "absolutally needed" stuff first

#

so PSU, case, cables, ect

next tangle
#

Could anyone that's just reading this chat, can they DM me?

latent bronze
#

I still need to test my temps for Apex now with this new case

next tangle
#

I need help with some stuff

sweet charm
#

I recommend the corsair k95, if you wanna have the fastest reaction time possible for gaming, @sleek mist

coarse coral
#

corsair k95 speed switches are so good

sweet charm
#

@next tanglethe list we sent you early help you upgrade cpu motherboard and memory

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@next tangle the gpu can be changed later

latent bronze
#

I actually want to try out that Cooler Master hybrid keyboard still

sweet charm
#

Yes I do tooo

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But imma settle for the k95 cause it's my dream keyboard rn

latent bronze
rough loom
#

ultra high end keyboards are such a waste. I have one and its pretty meh

sleek mist
#

which one

#

actually I just realized thatโ€™s a lot lol

sweet charm
#

171.90

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That's the silver keys one

latent bronze
#

You want the UK one lol

sweet charm
#

The quickest ones

rough loom
#

brown if you hate stupid clicky click. specially if your recording voice audio

sleek mist
#

should I do a 850w gold

sweet charm
#

If you have a good mic it should be able to cancel out to keys or muffle it

rough loom
#

800 is pretty safe

sleek mist
#

i think ima get a blue yeti

#

800?

rough loom
#

could probably go with less

sweet charm
#

850w is just for the upgrade in the future

latent bronze
#

800w to 850w is nice to have

sleek mist
#

how does it effect anything

next tangle
#

Well if I wait to get a new gpu

latent bronze
#

never know in the future when you upgrade as well

next tangle
#

It'll be like a year

rough loom
#

just wiggle room incase you ever want to overclock pulling more power

sweet charm
#

@next tangle save money and spend it on a new one

latent bronze
#

Also you never know if you would do SLI/Xfire as well

next tangle
#

@sweet charm I can't

sleek mist
#

ok yeah ima see what good 800 golds there are

rough loom
#

take it from me. Just dont do SLI/crossfire

sweet charm
#

@next tanglehow come??

next tangle
#

no money ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

rough loom
#

Its been miserable for 2 years

next tangle
#

(i don't)

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(my job is gone)

sweet charm
#

@next tangle birthday, Christmas, part-time job

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Fast food

next tangle
#

It'll be about 2 years

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I'm 13

sweet charm
#

Damn

next tangle
#

I was a news paper carrier

latent bronze
#

@next tangle It you want to hit 500 and want a GPU as well you might have to opt out the 3600 for a 3400G

rough loom
#

bust out a mower and hit them lawns

next tangle
#

Christmas, I don't get money

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@rough loom Can't, parents won't let me

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Birthday, I get 100$

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But my parents put it to my college ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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So I'll be stuck with this

rough loom
#

thats smart

next tangle
#

That's why I'm super excited to use 500$

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Because I can actually play games

sleek mist
#

Should I do a evga power supply

sweet charm
#

Yes

next tangle
#

I WOULD HAVE 1300$

rough loom
#

if your on super budget. Used parts

next tangle
#

BUT MY PARENTS PUT 1300$ TO COLLEGE

latent bronze
#

Total cost for my system in Canadian is roughly 1200$

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which it is like 1000 US

rough loom
#

college costs like 30 grand a year. Cant blame them

next tangle
#

@rough loom See, I need to convince my dad because he says I need to get new parts, not used

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I'll attempt on convincing ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

rough loom
#

EVGA makes good PSU's

latent bronze
#

@rough loom It is a lot less in Canada for college cause there is a lot of American's that comes to Canada for schooling

sweet charm
#

@next tanglegoodluck and may the odds be in your favor

next tangle
#

thanks ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

latent bronze
#

and you get the same level education as well as those 30k schools

sleek mist
#

Howโ€™s this

latent bronze
#

That is good

sweet charm
#

Yea

next tangle
#

Sure

rough loom
#

thats a good PSU

next tangle
#

Yeah that's good

sweet charm
#

Same one I'm getting

sleek mist
#

Nice

rough loom
#

I have a supernova g2. they are good

sweet charm
#

If only it was rgb๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

rough loom
#

no...rgb psu..shun

sweet charm
#

Hahaha if only

next tangle
#

Who said go with the 3400G?

latent bronze
#

@sweet charm want to see the one i am getting lol

rough loom
#

thats like rgb ssd's

sweet charm
#

Imma make one๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

next tangle
next tangle
#

I think I'll just go with the 2600

sleek mist
#

Do I need a cpu cooler or nah

sweet charm
#

It would help

rough loom
#

uuuh. Not overclocking prob not

latent bronze
#

3400G has an iGPU as well so you can sell your GPU order a new one and use the iGPU for the time being

rough loom
#

a better cooler would make life better though during video rendering

#

and be not as loud

sweet charm
#

Stock is fine, but that's also if your case has enough airflow too

sleek mist
#

well I kinda would like that

latent bronze
#

HB do you like the PSU i am getting ๐Ÿ˜›

sweet charm
#

Cooler master 212 rgb black edition

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Which one @latent bronze

latent bronze
#

look up

sweet charm
#

I saw

#

I was thinking about those, but they are too much for me...๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

#

Tryna get a 850 80+ gold

latent bronze
#

Well PSU like that makes sense for my case as well

#

i have a top mounted PSU on my case

#

so i will get the RGB effects

sweet charm
#

Yea it would look amazing for mine too since I can remove part of the shield

latent bronze
#

HB want to know the improvement i have been getting with this case

sweet charm
#

Yea sure

sleek mist
#

All I need is a case & OS now

latent bronze
#

When playing Shadow of the Tomb Raider with my old case and after changing the thermal paste in my GPU i was getting 71c on average

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this case 51c on average

sleek mist
#

I heard h500 mesh was good and also heard itโ€™s bad

sweet charm
#

If you want alot of airflow recommend the meshify c

latent bronze
#

20c less than my old case and my old case had 6 fans this one has 4

sweet charm
#

@eckstein that's hot

sleek mist
#

I need something really cool

latent bronze
#

51c on my GPU is not hot

#

unless you mean it as in sexy

sweet charm
#

Hhaahhaha

#

I know

next tangle
#

Guys

sweet charm
#

90 would be

next tangle
#

2600 and cpu cooler or 2600x and stock cooler

latent bronze
#

HB on my old case before changing the thermal paste i was getting 80c on average

sweet charm
#

Ohhhhh

#

That's really jot

#

Hot

latent bronze
#

yep

next tangle
#

Anyone know?

latent bronze
#

i couldn't play any demanding games

next tangle
#

If I should get 2600 and a cpu cooler or 2600x and stock cooler

sweet charm
#

2600x with stock is fine

next tangle
#

Ok

sleek mist
#

What do I do about the os, I have no idea what to pick

sweet charm
#

@latent bronze that would suck

next tangle
#

How about that?

sweet charm
#

Windows 10 64 bit

latent bronze
#

average temps you will get with the 2600X anyways on idle would be 40c and when gaming should hit around 55c to 60c which is still fine

#

if you want to overclock you need a 3rd party cooler

sweet charm
#

You're good with that build man

#

If you overclock I recommend noctuas

latent bronze
#

but the 2600X i don't see the point of overclocking right now

sweet charm
#

Yup

sleek mist
sweet charm
#

Might as well get a 3400g or a 3700x

next tangle
#

Should I go with a 1700X?

sleek mist
#

What do you guys think, is there anything I should add or remove

next tangle
#

@sleek mist wadu hek, I can't even afford 1000$ ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

latent bronze
sweet charm
next tangle
#

if it doesn't have rgb, it's not a cpu cooler ๐Ÿ˜‰

latent bronze
#

Cooler i am using now is Deepcool S40 which is good but i want to overclock

sweet charm
#

I added a hdd for you @sleek mist

#

You dont need a water cooler

sleek mist
#

why

sweet charm
#

If you want a 3rd party cooler I'd just recommend noctuas if you want, but you really only need it if you are overclocking

latent bronze
#

Well i want that for 2 reasons and one is for cooling better and two is for looks with my system

sweet charm
#

Water coolers are mainline just for looks tbh

#

Manly

#

Mainly

#

Their good, but the noctuas are a better cooler

sleek mist
#

I need looks

#

I need rgb lol

sweet charm
#

Lmao

#

I feel you

latent bronze
#

HB not everyone loves those brown fans lol

sweet charm
#

Hahah I dont like the brown fans either

#

Just like the performance

rough loom
#

eeeh I dono if I agree with water coolers are just for looks

latent bronze
#

@sleek mist are you going for overclocking or staying on stock speeds?

sweet charm
#

Thinking about buying covers or spray painting them

sleek mist
#

Staying to stock

sweet charm
#

Stock

#

He just wants the rgb

sleek mist
#

Yeah lol

latent bronze
#

could stick to a 240 rad instead of a 360 rad

rough loom
#

240/280 is plenty of AIO

sweet charm
#

360 is alittle big for a ryzen 7 anyways at stock

sleek mist
#

wdym the cooler?

sweet charm
#

Yee

sleek mist
#

What should I change it to

rough loom
#

240 or 280

sweet charm
#

Yee

#

The smaller one

#

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

rough loom
#

360 is rediculous overkill

sweet charm
#

But it gives me more rgb

#

It give be more power

#

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

rough loom
#

depending on where you mount it, might not even see it

sleek mist
#

6-30 dB good?

latent bronze
#

Does it also give you Nintendo Power ThinkingEgg

rough loom
#

30db is real quiet

sleek mist
#

nice

#

Bet itโ€™s finished

sweet charm
#

Meshify c front panel let's all 3 fans be seen

sleek mist
#

So I donโ€™t need to add any extra fans or anything?

rough loom
#

like I got a 240 thermaltake in the top of my case. Legit cant see it

sleek mist
#

that all comes in the case?

latent bronze
#

Did you guys ever see the all out gaming PC

rough loom
#

depends on the case

sweet charm
#

The 60k build?? @latent bronze

sleek mist
#

Meshify c

sweet charm
#

Meshify c is one of the best for airflow

#

The front allows rgb fans to be seen

#

The triple fan would look nice on it tho

#

Not gonna lie

latent bronze
#
rough loom
#

uuuh. Meshify C only has 2 fans stock

sleek mist
#

So do I need to buy extra fans for it

rough loom
#

if you top mount your AIO cooler, might need 1 more for the front

latent bronze
#

Look at what is in that PC lol

sleek mist
#

alrigh

latent bronze
rough loom
#

if you want RGB fans than you need 3

sweet charm
#

It's only 64 GB of ram... wack๐Ÿ˜‚

rough loom
#

or atleast 2 for the front, the back being black

sweet charm
#

Buy the 3 rgb fan I'm getting

latent bronze
#

@sweet charm At least with that PC you can play that spider man game lol

rough loom
#

would be silly to buy that thing, specially since the ps4 and xbox one is going to be replaced soon

sweet charm
#

Its 120m rgbs

#

Lmao๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ right

#

Finaly some 4k on it

#

Haha

sleek mist
#

k so I buy like 2-3 120m rgb fans

latent bronze
#

But ya if the Xbox and PS4 was going to last another 2-3 more years that system would be worth it

rough loom
#

thats about the extent of my knowledge for rgb. I dono if you need a rgb controller hub

sweet charm
#

Ps4 comes out next year

#

Ps5

latent bronze
#

@rough loom my case has a control button for the RGB

rough loom
#

I mean for uqb's case. I dont think the meshify has a controller with it

sweet charm
#

Or that's what sony said

sweet charm
#

Yea not controller, but you can just download the software

latent bronze
#

what you see on the side is air vents

rough loom
#

Timmy joe did a review of that thing, thermals werent the best

sweet charm
#

I like it, but I want that front panel to be open

latent bronze
#

on the Prism S?

#

I am using it now and i am getting great thermals

rough loom
#

I cant tell from that pic

sweet charm
#

But I didnt want to spend anymore than 100 9n a case

latent bronze
rough loom
#

a bunch of manufactuers are going with weird abstract closed fronts. Starting to all look the same

sweet charm
#

Yea and it annoys me

#

๐Ÿ–•

#

Hahaa

latent bronze
#

I don't think Timmy Joe reviewed that one

rough loom
#

He reviewed one that was pretty much just like it, XD

#

problem is, depending on how you mount a AIO or something, one of your components is going to get hot

#

so you will either get heat soak inside the case because of lack of exhaust

latent bronze
#

Right now my motherboard temp is 27c, CPU is 28c to 33c and my GPU is at 22c and this is all just when chatting with you guys

sleek mist
#

do I need thermal paste? I have no idea how that works

rough loom
#

or most likely gpu exhaust is going to push up to a CPU cooler

#

AIO comes with it

#

doesnt hurt though

sleek mist
#

I just squirt it on the processor

sweet charm
#

It should come with the cpu

sleek mist
#

oh then thatโ€™s good

#

Iโ€™ll watch a yt tutorial when I get the parts

latent bronze
rough loom
#

A little goes a long way

sweet charm
#

Pea size only

#

Too much and you can mess up parts

#

Not enough and you can fry to whole system

sleek mist
#

alr

#

just the processor gets it

latent bronze
#

some thermal paste comes with an applicator so you can spread it around

rough loom
#

yep

sleek mist
#

this is my first time ever building anything lol

rough loom
#

I legit spread mine with a plastic sandwitch bad over the tip of my finger XD

#

bag*

sleek mist
#

lmaoo

latent bronze
#

the applicator helps if you are worried it might not spread properly

rough loom
#

by the time you squish it down and set the screws its usually good to go, never had a problem

#

and I was using artic silver 5. thats conductive stuff so you cant afford to mess up

latent bronze
#

Why a sand witch and not an ocean witch or a grass witch lol

rough loom
#

the grit helps

sweet charm
#

Fire witch is the best

latent bronze
#

nah lightning witch is the best

sweet charm
#

I can use light transfer๐Ÿ˜‚

rough loom
#

when i swap my AIO over ill use some of this thermal grizzly I got

sweet charm
#

Lightning

#

Would it be worth buying extra thermal paste

#

??

rough loom
#

I have like 3 things of it, no idea why

latent bronze
#

if you don't have much left then yes

sweet charm
#

Lmao how many cpu have you bought

#

Alright

latent bronze
#

Also having more thermal paste helps when you have to replace your old one

rough loom
#

I bought 2 types because I didnt wanna keep using artic sliver 5

sweet charm
#

Hahah

#

How often should you replace it

rough loom
#

like artic silver 5 is sketchy if you screw up

latent bronze
#

I find after 2 years it is best to change the thermal paste on your CPU

sweet charm
#

And how do you clean it

rough loom
#

isopropyl alcohol

#

and a paper towel

sweet charm
#

Thanks

latent bronze
#

99% is best but you can use 70%

sweet charm
#

Okay

rough loom
#

just remember to close the cap, that stuff evaporates fast

sweet charm
#

Yup

latent bronze
#

i had a small container that i put some alcohol in and i passed out .... 6 hours later was still there

sweet charm
#

What was the temps

rough loom
#

bit I bought some Thermal Grizzly hydronaught and some Noctua NT-H1

latent bronze
#

@sweet charm When replacing thermal paste make sure you have a dry paper towel as well for wiping wait about 5 minutes to put the new paste and to be on the safe side wait about 10 minutes before powering your system

sweet charm
#

Alright

rough loom
#

was going to pull apart my 2nd 1070 since i think its thermal paste is going bad. But that things hard to dissasemble so I just made it my SLI slave card instead of the primary

latent bronze
#

The thermal paste i have with me right now is Arctic Silver 5 and Deepcool Z9

#

Z9 is their high end stuff

sweet charm
#

Do you need to put thermal paste on gpu??

rough loom
#

only if your getting bad temps

sweet charm
#

Ohh alright

latent bronze
#

only replace the thermal paste if it is still hot after cleaning it with compressed air

rough loom
#

but opening up a EVGA 1070 FTW is a puzzle box

#

overly complicated design

sweet charm
#

Hahaha getting the 2080 super rog

latent bronze
#

cause you have the back plate as well right?

rough loom
#

back plate and the rgb and cooler design

latent bronze
#

@sweet charm the one thing that will scare you for changing the thermal paste on your GPU is the warranty sticker

#

unless you buy a EVGA card

sweet charm
#

So if a card fries could I send it in for a new one

rough loom
#

I hope EVGA's 30xx series cards are less ugly

latent bronze
#

with EVGA yes

sweet charm
#

What about asus?

rough loom
#

I mean warranty is warranty

latent bronze
#

if you destroy the warranty screw sticker on the Asus card you can say goodbye

rough loom
#

if it fails within the timeframe you either get a new one as replacement or if its end of life you might get a new gen card

#

unless you live in the USA

still roostBOT
#
HB_RIZE916#2290 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

latent bronze
#

Mera i know i asked Asus and i am in North america

sweet charm
#

Oop

#

Oops

#

My bad

rough loom
#

You can sue Asus for not doing warranty replacement in the USA for having the warranty void thing

#

US made it consumer law that warranty void stickers are bull

#

and are not means of denying replacements

latent bronze
#

But the company is not really US anyways ThinkingEgg

rough loom
#

they still have to obey US law

#

if dealing with US consumer base

latent bronze
#

Oh ya you also saw there is a 3rd party jumping in between AMD and Nvidia lol

sweet charm
#

Imma sleep see ya guys...

sleek mist
#

Have you guys ever used bitcoin to purchase on Newegg

latent bronze
#

and it is not Intel

#

no i have not

rough loom
#

no. I stay away from crypto

sleek mist
#

Does Newegg hold your funds or anything?

#

This is gonna be my first purchase on Newegg

rough loom
#

No idea. I imagine they might hold it for a tiny bit just to confirm payment and make sure the value doesnt suddenly dip below on exchange rates

sleek mist
#

they donโ€™t ask for any info like KYC type of stuff

#

like confirm ur identity

rough loom
#

I dono. I dont deal with crypto or even no what that is

#

Im amazed they even take crypto

sleek mist
#

yeh lol

rough loom
#

the amount of purchases that could be used from theft and fraud are scary probable with crypto

latent bronze
#

Take the newegg warranty as well

#

the 2 to 3 year warranty are worth getting

sleek mist
#

I just had $1k in bitcoin and it rose so I have $2.5k ready to buy a pc

#

My pc is only $2000 so Iโ€™ll have $900 leftover now

#

to buy the rest of my setup

latent bronze
#

@sleek mist want to know how to turn normal fans into RGB fans

sleek mist
#

How

latent bronze
rough loom
#

oh those fan shroud things

sleek mist
#

wow

latent bronze
#

and you can even do it on AIO's without RGB on it

#

So @sleek mist do you think this is cool?

sleek mist
#

Yeah Itโ€™s dope does it have a remote for it

#

I can basically get whatever fan I want and just put that on it

#

yo thatโ€™s actually rly good since I need rgb

latent bronze
#

You would have to use your motherboard software for it

sleek mist
spare tartan
#

what is the best ventilation case to use?

#

Also, I know the best is water cooled, but do you have to have it?

hazy seal
#

A great air cooler is just as good as a lot of AIO and water cooled for 1/2 the price

#

So no, not needed.. unless you plan to OC

spare tartan
#

I mean, I am not a heavy gamer since I play xbox.

hazy seal
#

Then save the $$ and get better parts overall vs a water system..

spare tartan
#

How much degrees cooler does water cooled usually get on the cpu?

hazy seal
#

Depends on settings and what you are running.

#

Linus has a few You tube videos about Air vs Water and shows the difference between them.. CPU, Airflow, type of cooler all change what it does

spare tartan
#

I was thinking about getting a desert storm pc but then I was thinking about the price

hazy seal
#

Even an AIO water cooler is effected by airflow into the case.. so you can have a great cooler, and poor airflow and it would be worthless

spare tartan
#

what is the best case to get for ventilation?

hazy seal
#

All depends on how big you want to go, what MOBO your using will determine case size

#

Dual chamber allows lots of air flow options and great cable management.

sleek mist
#

what case do I need to get

#

Also what mobo

next tangle
#

@sleek mist if you plan to overclock (which you should) go with 850w

#

And I know a trustworthy website you can get windows 10 pro for 14$

latent bronze
#

@next tangle Too late i already showed him

next tangle
#

Showed him what?

sleek mist
#

Yeah Iโ€™m doing the supernova g3 850 watt

next tangle
#

And I suggest the tuf x570 plus mobo

sleek mist
#

Should I change the card to a evga

next tangle
#

You should

#

Unless you wanna save money

#

But that card is good too

sleek mist
#

nah idc about money

#

is evga cooler

next tangle
#

Really?

#

Okay lemme put a list for 20K

#

๐Ÿ˜‰

sleek mist
#

I mean itโ€™s gonna be like $100 off because ecks showed me how to get windows 10 for cheap

next tangle
#

Okay

#

But can I put a list for 20K for you

sleek mist
#

no lol

next tangle
#

But whyyy

sleek mist
#

I donโ€™t have 20k

next tangle
#

:sad:

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Bbbbbbut

sleek mist
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it looks like thereโ€™s no rgb in my build

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You really want rgb?

sleek mist
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kinda idk

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Since you dont care about money, I can edit that list that will equal to a little more

sleek mist
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is water cooling cpu unneeded

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nah my budget is like $2050

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Ima try stay as tight as possible so I have left over money for monitor and the whole setup

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Oh 2050$

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If you plan to oc

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I wouldn't get that mobo

sleek mist
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Iโ€™m not overclocking

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I actually donโ€™t know what mobo to get

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some guy just put that one there

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I mean I said before

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Put an x570 tuf plus

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By asus

sleek mist
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yeah tuf is what I had before but he changed it

latent bronze
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@next tangle Weren't you having a hard time last night picking out parts for yourself?

urban adder
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That ASRock taichi is nice looking

deep skiff
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yeah but itโ€™s like 300

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@latent bronze yes under 500$ I do

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With a higher budget, I know a good amount

deep skiff
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Yeah 500 is hard

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but 570โ€™s have a great used market

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and u can get a 1600 for $80 at microcenter

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I CANT GO TO MICROCENTER

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I HAVE FRYS AT MY STATE

deep skiff
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:l

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what state

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O

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Trail

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๐Ÿ˜‰

deep skiff
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oh ic

latent bronze
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Oregon

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Mhm

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I can stream gpu

deep skiff
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what about a case or psu

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I'm upgrading my current pc

deep skiff
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gotcha

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Reusing some of the parts

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I'm thinking of selling my whole pc and just add a 70$ case to that list

deep skiff
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Iโ€™d say either go with a 1600 or 2600, cause thatโ€™s only 4 cores and you donโ€™t need an agpu

latent bronze
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If you are willing to buy a A400 i would say go a step up and get a Team Group SSD

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How much is that?

latent bronze
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about the same price

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And what team group ssd?

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Is it faster?

latent bronze
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It is as fast as 2.5" models can do

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Should I get yours?

latent bronze
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doing a test to show you mine

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I used the A400 as my main OS drive before and after 2 months it started to slow down a lot close to what my hybrid drive performs for i went for Team Group haven't had problems since

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also the A400 i use it now as a secondary drive

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Okay

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Thanks for the tip!

latent bronze
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np

west grail
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i have a 1050 ti gaming x

latent bronze
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The A400 was just like my other SSD with the high speed but after time it got a little slower

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decent GPU

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latent bronze
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I haven't experimented with NVMe's yet

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But i would say go for WD or Samsung

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nvme drives are crazy fast

deep skiff
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yea

lime forge
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if you're getting m2 definitely shoot for nvme

deep skiff
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wd is good for budget, samsung makes expensive good ones

lime forge
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intel 660p even better for budget

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comes in 512 1tb and 2tb

deep skiff
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yeah but its qlc

lime forge
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$60 $100 $200

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but INTEL

deep skiff
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wd is like 110 for the 1tb and doesnt slow down

lime forge
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then yeah go for that lol

latent bronze
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So like

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They're literally the same RAM

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Just different heatshield colors

deep skiff
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^

latent bronze
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ok im back

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@deep skiff If you looked at the one i linked it is about 4 times faster than the one you like

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When going for an M.2 storage drive you want something with better performance

deft python
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My m.2 is a 970 pro

latent bronze
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Samsung does make nice drives but also very expensive

deft python
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Yeah, you're paying a premium for performance that is only slightly better than a WD or an Evo

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Unless you didn't already have an NVME m.2 or have money to blow, Samsung drives are hard to shell out for

latent bronze
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If you are just gaming and streaming i find that 1700 Mbps is the sweet spot

deft python
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I do kind of want that new Corsair PCIe m.2 they came out with recently

latent bronze
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if doing heavy work loads on your system you would then go for something faster