#building-and-recc-chat

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deep skiff
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Or get a 3600/2600

next tangle
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@naive ore if you you an extra 400$ to upgrade @naive ore get like a 3600x and 3200mhz 2x8gb RAM

timid ocean
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Yo ima build my first pc today wish me luck

steady breach
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Good luck!!!

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GLHF!

shy galleon
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@next tangle no abut my mom is thinking about getting it because my sister is going off to college

naive ore
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That’s just a starting point for me @next tangle @deep skiff I’m taking your advice and upgrading the graphics and the cpu will more than likely be Ryzen 7 2700 with the wraith cooler

uneven glade
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Anyone have thoughts about the ASRock B450 Pro 4 mb?

shy galleon
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@uneven glade good motherboard

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for people on a budget

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because you can overclock with it

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like this

floral parrot
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Hey guys I am having trouble deciding on if i should get a 2nd gen ryzen because the 3rd gen x570 boards are to expensive and idk what to do

odd urchin
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i have questions on what i need to invest in making a good workstation desktop

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anyone free to answer questions?

coarse coral
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workstation? cores and threads

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ryzen right now.

odd urchin
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actually shouldnt i be basing the build around what software i use?

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ive been told your build depends on what rendering it being used cpu or gpu

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cause atm im going to be using blender and zbrush as my main modeling programs

next tangle
coarse coral
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i never recommended the 3600x

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since you were on a budget

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LOL

next tangle
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lmao ik

coarse coral
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you really don't need 16gb of ram either

next tangle
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but I want it 😉

coarse coral
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but up to you

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cpu cooler too

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3600 comes with one

next tangle
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I was gonna go with some other RGB RAM same speed and 16GB but the RGB was bad

coarse coral
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and i hope you have luck bios updating that mobo

next tangle
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So I switched to the 3600, got a cooler, changed the mobo and RAM

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Why do you say that?

coarse coral
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you should be fine since it has a flash bios feature

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im just paranoid

leaden dawn
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I personally would never get less than 16GB of ram nowadays

next tangle
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Same @leaden dawn

leaden dawn
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Can it work without? Yeah sure, but at that point it really is a quality of life thing

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For not that much more

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I always keep chrome like permanently up with so much tabs it nearly takes 3GB of ram alone

coarse coral
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they are pretty much the same

leaden dawn
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I don't know much about air cooling, been using liquid for a long time

next tangle
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Well I would love a liquid cooler

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But it doesn't fit the budget

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hmm

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I could go with a 500$ budget

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Maybe...

leaden dawn
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you probably don't need it though lol

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I starting buying liquid cooling so I could OC

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and now I still use it because thread ripper is a beast

next tangle
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If my parents let me get that GPU

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that'll be awesome

fossil hedge
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4.99 cents

little osprey
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i ran this today, only thing overclocked is RAM

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UserBenchmarks: Game 141%, Desk 164%, Work 169%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X - 97.5%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080-Super - 171.2%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB - 326.9%
SSD: Samsung 860 Evo 1TB - 115%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 386%
RAM: G.SKILL F4 DDR4 3200 C14 2x16GB - 124.2%
MBD: Asus ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO

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everything else is stock

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GPU is ASUS for those wondering

snow forge
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Honestly, this is what I really wanted to see

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Just ordered my parts for my pc and those line up fairly well

little osprey
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buy Kryonaut, its better than Hydronaut

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You also dont need a 1000W

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buy a smaller, more power efficient PSU

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I have a Titanium 750

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Overall fairly well built, I wasnt gonna spend the extra 600 on a 2080 Ti, the Super works just as well at the expense of a couple of frames, not too much of a difference.

balmy canopy
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I bought the 2080 before the super lineup

little osprey
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Unfortunate

balmy canopy
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Yeah but I’m still happy with my pc

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Thing is the 2080 super is the least improved of the whole super lineup

little osprey
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A 2080 Super is still the 2nd fastest card though... How much faster can people think itll be without it being a 2080 Ti?

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2080 Ti is way too overpriced

balmy canopy
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Not saying it’s not faster it’s just me making excuses to not kick myself for buying the normal 2080 lmao

little osprey
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Not to mention if you want a workstation card, the RTX Titan is insanely more than the 2080 Ti, no reason to hate the 2080 Super, its maxed out as far as the 2080's die will allow it

balmy canopy
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Yeah ti is too highly priced especially when you consider the performance, but that’s just how it be

little osprey
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600$ for 20 more frames max? Yeah not happening

balmy canopy
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It only happens for when people have the money to spare though

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Imagine being able to spend $600 more for a few more frames when you could turn down some settings and the game would still look good lol

little osprey
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I had the money, but cards will only last for so long. RTX wont be an architecture that lasts forever if AMD keeps pumping out cards like the 5700XT, it was more of a performance and price comparison for me

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I mean if AMD holds true to Navi, Nvidia will no longer be top dog with the progressions AMD is making in GPUs

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theyll be dead even

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and AMD has always usually been cheaper so you can already assume whos gonna take some market share

balmy canopy
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I doubt nvidia will die but they’ll lose battles

little osprey
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They wont die

balmy canopy
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Nvidia is still the bigger name for gpu’s

little osprey
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Look up nvidias stock vs AMDs

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we talking hundreds of dollars to a couple of dollars

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Nvidia has a name to uphold but they still have competition thats just as good if not better for price to performance

balmy canopy
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They’re definitely better for worth, and competition is good for us so I’m not complaining lol

little osprey
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But nvidia never cared about price, if they did they wouldnt up the flagship card a couple hundred dollars more every year

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Nvidia is very expensive, no doubt, but games are nvidia and Intel biased just due to market share

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Anyways, im happy with my build and plan to upgrade when more cards come out in the next 3 years

balmy canopy
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Yeah I’m happy with my build too but I need to upgrade my PSU lol

little osprey
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yea

balmy canopy
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I have an i7 8700k and a 2080 but a 600w bronze rated PSU????

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I’m gonna go to 850 and plat or titanium rated purely for energy savings in that perspective

little osprey
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ill show u my psu

balmy canopy
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But I need more watts if I even think about upgrading anything else

little osprey
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Nice PSU

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dead quiet

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My pc operates at around 20 db

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very quiet

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only bequiet! and Noctua fans are in my PC

lime forge
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oh god

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80+ titanium

little osprey
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Plus ASUS knows how to make a GPU quiet

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other GPU brands have jet engines

lime forge
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80+ gold is what you want

little osprey
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nah

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I had one

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booboo

balmy canopy
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MSI’s 2080 gaming x trio is pretty quiet

little osprey
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yea but its also the most expensive 2080 ti so

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we talking nearly 2000 vs 800

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so

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yikes

balmy canopy
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80+ gold is too low I need titanium or platinum >:)

little osprey
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Platinum is good

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Titanium is too, its recommended for extremely high end systems for reliability and whatnot

lime forge
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you guys are insane

balmy canopy
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They’re also extremely high priced lol

lime forge
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i dont even have an 80+ power supply

little osprey
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goober

lime forge
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haha

balmy canopy
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What

little osprey
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goober

balmy canopy
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The efficiency of it must be horrible

little osprey
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higher efficiency PSUs tend to be higher quality and quiet, plus its bragging rights

balmy canopy
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Imagine drawing 100w from the wall and using less than 80 watts whaat

little osprey
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like comparing a gold to a titanium is not even comparable

balmy canopy
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They’re more quiet cause they lose less energy to heat and don’t need to spin much

little osprey
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here

lime forge
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my psu is from 11 years ago

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going on 12

little osprey
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F

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get a new one

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goober

little osprey
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80 Plus (trademarked 80 PLUS) is a voluntary certification program intended to promote efficient energy use in computer power supply units (PSUs). Launched in 2004 by Ecos Consulting, it certifies products that have more than 80% energy efficiency at 20%, 50% and 100% of rate...

little osprey
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mine has extremely well cable management

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hold up

balmy canopy
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Lol I kinda did whatever until I could close the side

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Idk if I have a pic and I’m too lazy to open it rn

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I like cable management to the extent of your view

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This can be what you see

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But what you don’t see is

little osprey
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Thats mine

balmy canopy
little osprey
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i would show mine but the hard drive broke from a virus

balmy canopy
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I don’t have channel raceways yet but I plan on it sometime soon

little osprey
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i have a 1060 and a 2700x it bottlenecks

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i have 16 gigs of ram

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and my 1060 has 3gb

still roostBOT
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Toto#5793 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
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i have bad cm

balmy canopy
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Here’s my friend’s pc, hard to take a pic cause it’s gigantic and under his desk lol

little osprey
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i have a trooper se

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dusty as

balmy canopy
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I think it has an 8700 (non k) and a 1050ti. It’s a prebuilt from origin and yes it’s dusty cause he keeps it on the carpet and never cleans it idk why

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My other friend has a prebuilt from Best Buy that he slapped a 1070 in and he ALSO never cleans it.... his SCREAMS at idle.... and when it’s under load.... oh god

little osprey
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why would they spend 300 dollars on a CPU and still have a garbage GPU

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i cant speak here

balmy canopy
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Idk it’s a prebuilt AND it cost $3000 which I do not understand

little osprey
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bruh

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my pc is so much better and it barely cost 3 grand

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my gpu bottlenecks lol

balmy canopy
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I went to origin’s website and built his exact pc.. can confirm it costs $3000

little osprey
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origin is on the doodoo juice

balmy canopy
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He has like a capture card and stuff, he doesn’t even have an SSD lmao

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He has a sound card too

little osprey
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currently playing on a macintosh cuase my hard drive fried lol

balmy canopy
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Oof

little osprey
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lel

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well not fried but it got a virus

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Take care of ur pc

still roostBOT
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Toto#5793 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
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poor as poop so i cant

elder anvil
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I’m trying to build a 1.5k pc and am using a Ryzen 2700x and a Asus Rtx 2070 Super. should I use a Ryzen 5 3600x instead or change the gpu?

leaden dawn
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I am not one for cable management at all lol

pulsar garnet
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That looks intense

sudden turret
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@leaden dawn still decent

crimson basin
lime forge
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yes

crimson basin
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@lime forge how good? I was reading the reviews and que Q&A section of that same page I got scared :c

lime forge
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i think the card is great

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you can search online for rx 590 in games

crimson basin
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ty my friend

deep skiff
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@elder anvil go with 3600 and rx 5700xt for nearly same performance for $200 cheaper

pulsar garnet
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Good idea ^^

little osprey
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RX 590 on sale is good for $180, 1660 for <$200 is much better especially if you want VP9 4k decode and NVENC capability

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eBay rx 570 /580 are the steal imo

shut lance
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Yeah I got a 580 8gb for $90 for my daughters build

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will run most games at 1080p at 100fps

little osprey
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This ^^^

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580 is a fantastic budget card, no 4k decoding as it lacks vp9, but who cares when $<100 buys 120fps fortnight 1080p

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Also it draws a reasonable 35-50W from the pcie slot unlike the 480's very rude 100W

crimson basin
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@little osprey ty! Im wasn't sure because the reviews on the page, but I think Ill buy it

shut lance
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the RD .... I have the MSI 580 8gb MK 2 ( red version) and the thing is SOLID.

crimson basin
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@shut lance I know, but just look at this

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Sorry for the night filter

shut lance
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ahhh thats weird

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Building for a friend ..... AMD 2600x, B450 asrock mobo, 16gb ddr4 3000, m.2 970 Evo Pro, 2TB HDD, Corsair 850 gold psu and a r9 Fury. Think $750 is fair?

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He just wants it for gaming and some family pictures/video

little osprey
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Have you thought of going 3600 vs 2600x?

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$750 is a good price point for that use case imo.

shut lance
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yeah , I have the 2600x on hand

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he said he doesnt wanna spend the xtra

little osprey
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Nothing wrong with that, is the R9 carried over as well?

shut lance
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yeah

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Hes gaming at 1080p

little osprey
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Same deal, perfectly fine to carry over, but if buying new, I'd go 3600 / something else etc

shut lance
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tested out a few ... all looked and ran great

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yeah he originally said $1500

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then it went to , cheap as what I need it for

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but I dont know =/ my rig is beefy but I know most people dont want what I have

little osprey
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Which parts are you buying new?

shut lance
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the ram , HDD and PSU

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I got a deal on the 2600x , mobo and ram

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was seeing if he would do a 2700x

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can grab one new for $175

little osprey
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I'd go 3600 over either of those if new, but ya, the 2600x/2700x are just fine.

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Might be able to get a cheaper PSU, but I remember seeing a memory + RM850x recently making the PSU about $110.

shut lance
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yeah

little osprey
shut lance
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I dont wanna let him down

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but I dont want to waste his money

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he has a 4 month old

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so I dont see him gaming as much as he wants

little osprey
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I know the feel. IME, for those upgrading, having everything work without issue + saving $$ is the best starting point.

shut lance
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yeah

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I told him with this build we can always upgrade down the road

shy galleon
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what do you all think about this

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is it too good to be true or is it a good pickup?

coarse coral
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he has 8 on hand

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my guess it was used for mining @shy galleon

shy galleon
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so its a no?

coarse coral
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no

gilded kiln
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Doesn't mining slow it down?

coarse coral
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wears down the part

little osprey
shy galleon
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im not going to get a mining card especially since this is going to be my frist system and i dont want to risk anything

little osprey
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Not a bad idea. For a $200 new card I'd say 1660, $250 1660 ti, $300 + I'd wait/save for a 5700 with a non-reference cooler.

shy galleon
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i think im either going to get the rx 590 or the gtx 1660

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which one do you guys recommend?

little osprey
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1660 if you want streaming capability. 590 if you're confident your use case is best served by that card specifically.

balmy canopy
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1660 is best imo

maiden iron
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dear god amazon just suggested an RGB mouse pad while I was looking at new monitors. What hell are we living in when even mouse pads must have RGB.

shy galleon
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i was looking at this mobo and cpu combo do you think its worth it and also can i overclock with this board?

balmy canopy
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mousepads actually are pretty cool w rgb, coming from someone who wants to rgb everything.

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personally, i wouldnt want it in my setup but most of the reason why is cause of the other qualities i'd want

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i'd need it to be an extended mousepad, but wider than the normal 11-13; width, and it needs to be white

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if there was a white super large mousepad that had RGB, put it in my cart already

pulsar garnet
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I'd get an RGB mouse pad

remote yoke
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i am looking for a motherboard that will fit the Lenovo ultra ult31580 wizard atx mid-tower. any suggestions? thank you

prisma sapphire
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just removed the input conector pins on a modular molex cable and added it to the psu's molex connector for MOAR MOLEX

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the input connector pins are also hollow but small enough to fit into the bigger hollow pins

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(wasn't sure where to put this, just an fyi that small molex can fit into big molex if you take apart the small molex)

little osprey
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What is this for?

pulsar garnet
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What do you even use molex for

little osprey
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I'm going to re-wire that for PCIe 6 pin, but it's used by a few legacy devices and kids who use molex > PCIe 6 pin dongles for their GPU risers on mining rigs.

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Molex can do ~108W vs SATA's 58W shared across all connectors on the same PSU cable.

shy galleon
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okay so im building a system pretty soon

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and i was just wondering one thing and if ic an get an opinion on

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do i get the 1660 ti with the ryzen 5 2600 with the asrock b450m pro4 motherboard

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or do i get the gtx 1660 and get the ryzen 5 2600x with the same motherboard

balmy canopy
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1660ti imo. The x versions are just overclocked and slightly binned better I think. Don’t quote me though wait for other’s answers too

shy galleon
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okay thank you but i think im going to get the vega 56 instead of the 1660 ti now

raven cloud
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Would the Ryzen 5 2600X bottleneck the GTX 1080ti? Got it used and I know it probably will, but splurging on the mobo instead of CPU to plan for future upgrades (including budget CPU to at least Ryzen 7)

shy galleon
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@raven cloud do you have a micro center near yoou?

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also i have a question

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is this too good to be true?

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omg im dumb dumb

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i thought it was a vega 56

raven cloud
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No. Live near nothing much, could drive to Portland but dont really want to. All shopping is Ebay Amazon and Newegg

vernal dirge
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Seagate 🤢🤢🤢 @grand ridge

grand ridge
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Oh shut up man

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I like them

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Btw @vernal dirge I need to see if this case I have is mATX

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I can’t tell

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The space at the bottom of the screen is for the PSU which is actually the top of the case

grand ridge
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@vernal dirge REEEEEEEEEE

little osprey
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what doo you guys think is the best pc i could get for around 1,000-1,200 USD]

vapid mantle
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Any suggestions for custom dust filters to cover random design of cases that don't have a filter?

next tangle
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@little osprey What will you be using your PC for?

hazy seal
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My vote is ALWAYS... HARD LINE.. so yep... get 1k feet if needed. Lol.

next tangle
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Lmao got i!

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sorry over-guessed it lmao

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I actually only need 50 feet LMAO

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What is the difference between like CAT5, CAT6, etc.. @hazy seal

hazy seal
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Top speed allowed

next tangle
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I have 5GHz internet

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What would you recommend?

hazy seal
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You can buy Cat8

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Cat6 is more then adequate for any internet allowed to the general public

hazy seal
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That’s overkill... but it’s cheap.. and will future proof a little further on the cables you will need in 40 years ... lol

next tangle
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Lmao

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And what do you mean by overkill?

hazy seal
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Your ISP will never release speeds that cable can handle

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Cat6 is more then suitable

next tangle
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Ohh I thought you said you suggest CAT8 for me\

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lmao

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So what is CAT8 for?

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Do you mean speeds that cable can't handle?

hazy seal
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That cable is designed for military and government internet speeds... the general population doesn’t get speeds close enough to need that cable

next tangle
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Ohh lmao

snow forge
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Military wifi SUCKS

hazy seal
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But you can use it... not going to hurt anything

next tangle
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Yes it will

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My wallet..

hazy seal
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WIFI sucks all around. Lol

next tangle
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lmao

snow forge
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Going to that fiber optic connection

hazy seal
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For gaming anyway

next tangle
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OKAY BUDDYYYY

hazy seal
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25$ for 50 feet is not a bad price...

hazy seal
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I can not wait for fiber to move 200 yards down the street and to my house. Lol

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Yes... 11$ is cheaper then 25$... so go for the Cat6 you won’t need anything more then that ever anyway

next tangle
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K

hazy seal
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I’d go Cat8 for 💩 and giggles.... but that’s me. Cat6 is more then acceptable

next tangle
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Wb CAT7?

hazy seal
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SAME THING... it’s fine... it will work...

next tangle
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GOT IT

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CAT8 IT IS

hazy seal
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there ya go.. make a choice and go for it

next tangle
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lMaO

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I'm 13 and gonna get a CAT8 ethernet cable

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lmao

hazy seal
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Even Cat5 is acceptable... just buy a cable and go play games with it.

next tangle
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CAT8 IT IS

hazy seal
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Good...

pulsar dew
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Hey does anyone know where to get colored cables for a modular PSU. Bought one the other day and now all I seem to be able to find is cable extensions which seems like it would just cause more problems with cable management. Maybe I'm wrong on that and extensions are all I would need. Would like to get them for a decent price too. I found some custom sites but it's like $50 per cable

snow forge
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CableMods is the most reccomended

pulsar dew
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Ok that wasn't one of the ones that I found just from googling it so I'll check it out

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Am I correct in assuming full cables are the better option over getting the extensions then?

tough pewter
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is a 1660 ti worth the money for an upgrade, i don't like the rtx cards cause it doesn't do much for making the image better and it just kills frames. any suggestions?

open gazelle
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I disagree about RTX cards.

forest zealot
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Yeah what

fossil hedge
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I made this

naive ore
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Not the greatest build but it’s a good first build

grand ridge
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Nice

lime forge
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that's a great build

naive ore
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I don’t like the motherboard honestly

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Kind of limits my upgrade ability

next tangle
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@pulsar dew for a much cheaper choice and basically same quality, check out upHere on Amazon or ASIANHorse, they sell great cables, just search up upHere cables or asianhorse cables and they should pop up! 😄

burnt dawn
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If you would like this screenshot to be translated, please ping me if.

hardy fractal
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Could I get some help

sudden turret
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@burnt dawn go for a minimum of 3,000mhz

burnt dawn
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Unfortunately that ram speed isn't available in guatemalan market where I live

deep skiff
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@sudden turret that ram is e die couldnt it hit 3000 cl16 at 1.35v?

little osprey
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@next tangle sorry i took so long to respond, most likely for non-competitive gaming. Trying to get 144 hz and maybe streaming idk

pulsar dew
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@next tangle Appreciate the info but from what I can see there are only cable extensions from those 2 companies. I was looking for full cables

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Also probably why they are so much cheaper too

steady breach
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What are the best psu cables?

onyx hinge
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? Do I need to buy genuine windows if I’m upgrading mobo +cpu ram all that Jazz?

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Or transfer possible?

coarse coral
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If you have your OEM KEY from the packet you can try using that

crimson fox
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should be able to transfer it yea

onyx hinge
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Word up ty

coarse coral
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Or if you logged into Microsoft sometime from your last install it should work too unless there are limitations

onyx hinge
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Any thoughts on stock thermal on the r5 2600 cpu?

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I was having issues transferring keys I’m better off just getting a new copy

little osprey
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@grand ridge I don't recommend stretching your headphones over your case like that in your build pic as over time it can make them misshaped and too wide for your head.

grand ridge
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Alright

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Thanks man

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I’ll keep that in mind

gaunt zinc
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Going through #build-pics ... @hasty pike
Do you want me to send you some Velcro ties? I have a ton.

crimson fox
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I'm beginning to put my PC together and lemme tell you; I couldn't resist testing my lighting node pro before I rip my case apart to paint it XD

gaunt zinc
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It looks so gooooood Yes

crimson fox
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Thanks 👌

hasty pike
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lol thanks but I’m just too lazy to manage my cables.

deep skiff
pulsar garnet
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@deep skiff probably get a cheaper motherboard and put the $50-100 you save from that into a better CPU

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@deep skiff you can also get a 1TB 660p SSD for like $90 I think

deep skiff
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yeah but the 660p slows down as it fills up

pulsar garnet
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Ah

oak radish
pulsar garnet
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@oak radish way better

shy galleon
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i just need some advice on something

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so i found this really good deal on a graphics card and im currently saving up money for the system

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and i have enough money for the graphics card but nothing else

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do i get the graphics card and then the rest of the parts later or no?

#

because the graphics card is used but its an insane deal

pulsar garnet
#

do you have a way to test if it works? what's the return policy?

shy galleon
#

no way to; test it but its ebay and they always side with the buyer

#

i know that because my mom makes a living off of ebay flipping

pulsar garnet
#

do you maybe have a friend who would let you test it in their pc or something?

#

because if you do, then buy it and test it quickly ig, and if it's crap then get that refund

#

i think the only problem buying parts with big time gaps between each other is figuring out if they actually work or not and the timeframe for the return if they're crap

little osprey
#

What card?

deep skiff
#

^

pulsar garnet
#

"..."

leaden dawn
#

the card

gaunt zinc
#

How's the new build treating you @regal agate ?

sudden turret
#

Still jealous of that guy.

#

lol

next tangle
agile bear
#

Gen 4 doesn’t work on z390

#

Probs want x570 instead or different storage

next tangle
chilly marsh
#

NO WAY

#

DUDE THATS TOO GOOD

next tangle
#

IKR

lime forge
#

the sad thing is

#

we just bought a gt 710

vague bane
#

I found a gt 710 at work

gloomy rock
#

yeets 2060 GIMME

next tangle
#

@lime forge no way lmao

#

😂

graceful basalt
#

I've recently built a pc

#

But it's stuttering

next tangle
#

pc specs?

#

@graceful basalt

edgy copper
#

Hey guys, I’m getting closer to starting my pc build and I was wondering what core would be better

#

I was looking at the i7-9700k but I’m worried about not having enough threads for the near future

#

Is it even worth it?

#

I’m a little pressed about intel not adding more threads to their cpus

leaden dawn
#

What are you planning on the near future that might need more threads?

edgy copper
#

I was just reading an article online about the chips not having enough threads, I will be using my pc for 3D rendering and coding with some gaming on the side

leaden dawn
#

If you're doing 3D rendering, then yes, you probably will want to focus on threads

edgy copper
#

This is a hard choice. I don’t think I like AMD that much and intel is behind

lime forge
#

if you have to get intel, id go for the 9900k

edgy copper
#

I9?

lime forge
#

yeah

#

well, 9900kf if you wanna save a bit of money

edgy copper
#

That’s kinda expensive rn, and still doesn’t have more than 8 threads

#

Wait

lime forge
#

it has 16 threads

edgy copper
#

Nvm lol

#

What mother board would you recommend for that?

leaden dawn
#

I think 8 cores is plenty enough now. There's only so much parallelism you can achieve

lime forge
#

do you have any preferred brands?

edgy copper
#

I don’t need anymore than that, don’t want to get left behind on the threads though

#

Not really, MSI and ASU’s is fine

lime forge
#

ok

#

is there anything you need like a bunch of io ports or a bunch of sata ports? or does it not matter

edgy copper
#

I’m not trying to spend that much money though, I think I’m capping at 2k which is still a ton

lime forge
#

yeah thats a very nice budget

#

ok lemme go find a motherboard

#

oh wait

#

do you already have a graphics card?

edgy copper
#

I’m looking through newegg rn and no, I was looking into the 1080ti

lime forge
#

i wouldnt get a 1080ti right now tbh

#

not brand new

edgy copper
#

Hm

#

Is the 2060 cs evga 6gb any good?

lime forge
#

yes, thats a good card

edgy copper
#

Good enough to run DL

#

?

deep skiff
#

i would go with 3700x+rx 5700 xt tbh

lime forge
#

you and your 5700xt

#

smh my head

deep skiff
#

its a great card

#

and good price

edgy copper
#

That one works for intel chips?

lime forge
#

heres a good motherboard

#

my dad has one, it works well

edgy copper
#

I think that’s one of the ones I have in my cart lol

lime forge
#

nice

#

it has wifi built in

#

and a super easy bios

deep skiff
#

and only 1.5k

edgy copper
#

This pc has to be able to do AI and VR

deep skiff
#

it can

#

3700x and 2070 super

lime forge
#

...

#

thought he wanted intel

#

my bad

deep skiff
#

you would need a 9900k and thats expensive

#

for productivity amd is the king rn

edgy copper
#

That’s not a bad build

#

I did want intel, but whichever is better for what I need is what I’ll get

deep skiff
#

what program for rendering?

lime forge
#

hold on brb

edgy copper
#

V-ray, I could use octane with the intel setup

lime forge
#

optane?

#

that stuffs crazy expensive

edgy copper
#

Octane render, and sorry it’s for the nvidia gpus

lime forge
#

oh lol

deep skiff
#

yeah vray favors threads

edgy copper
#

I was using auto desk but I don’t like it

lime forge
#

i have no clue about rendering stuff

deep skiff
#

even the 2700x almost ties the 9900k in vray

lime forge
#

question, do you care about your build looks?

edgy copper
#

Not really, although I was trying to go for a unicorn build cuz you know

#

Need them LEDS, each one adds an extra core

deep skiff
#

isnt octane render gpu stuff?

edgy copper
#

Yeah, for nvidia cards

deep skiff
#

suprising sli actually does good on octane

#

2 2060's beats a 2080 ti

lime forge
#

there ya go

#

3x the storage as what nuclear posted earlier, and a bit faster ram

#

and cheaper too

deep skiff
#

ThErMal TaKe

lime forge
#

😎

#

thats a coolermaster case

deep skiff
#

i also built mine in like 30 seconds

#

the psu dummy

lime forge
#

yeah

#

its the cheapest psu i could find without being a trash brand

edgy copper
#

ive been taking my time pickng lol, im not gonna start this build for another month

deep skiff
lime forge
#

also im on mobile, thats why it took me so long

deep skiff
#

might want to also consider sli for the rendering

lime forge
#

i need lunch

#

byeeeeeee

deep skiff
#

its 3:20 here :l

edgy copper
#

for that price i could get the amd 1 cpu, is it better than the ryzen 7?

#

same here

#

east coast ftw

deep skiff
#

est reeee

#

which cpu?

edgy copper
#

threadripper 1

#

thats over kill tbh but its the same price than i9

deep skiff
#

which model?

#

they have a few models from 1st gen

edgy copper
#

im looking at the 1950x

#

16/32 at 3.5ghz

deep skiff
#

it would probably beat the 3700x, but up to you if you want to spend the extra money for faster rendering

edgy copper
#

how much ram should i go for? 16 or 32

#

on either build

deep skiff
#

for rendering i would say 32

#

i wouldnt go the threadripper path i would get the 3900x

#

cause the threadripper motherboards are expensive

edgy copper
#

yeah, just seen them

#

400$ for one

deep skiff
#

and they both perform about the same

#

you could get a x570 motherboard for the 3900x for like 200

edgy copper
#

i think 4 sticks at 32gb would be better than 2?

deep skiff
#

yeah 4x8gb would be the best

edgy copper
#

G. Skill or veangeance

deep skiff
#

doesnt matter, but try to get 3000 or 3200mhz

agile bear
#

How much rgb you want?

edgy copper
#

all of it

lime forge
#

rgb really makes price go up

deep skiff
#

^

lime forge
#

the stock cooler for the processor has rgb

leaden dawn
#

But the performance boost is worth it

edgy copper
#

they dont have 4x32 tridents .-.

lime forge
#

and you could get a 6 pack of rgb fans for $45

edgy copper
#

they have a sale for $309 4x16

lime forge
#

whered you find 4x64 for $309

#

oh lol

#

i was like whaaatttt

edgy copper
#

thats just too much, ill run a whole server on my pc lol

#

i forgot to ask, is the latency an issue? im looking at cas 16

deep skiff
#

not really

#

3200cl16 is usally the standard, but 3200lc14 is like double the price

edgy copper
#

thats not even worth it rn

deep skiff
#

yeah

#

and g skill announced 3800cl14 👀

edgy copper
#

you think 600w is enough?

deep skiff
#

id go 650/750

edgy copper
#

700w are priced almosy the same as the 800

deep skiff
#

no clue why the rgb ones are cheaper than the normal ones

edgy copper
#

idc much about rgb on the powersupply

#

i just need 1 function from that lol

deep skiff
#

yeah but its cheaper than the others for some reason

lime forge
#

ive used 2 thermaltake power supplies

#

no issues

edgy copper
#

whats this sli/crossfire stuff

#

is that for the rgb?

lime forge
#

no lol

deep skiff
#

its for dual gpu's

agile bear
#

It doubles performance

deep skiff
#

doesnt do much gaming but helps for rendering

lime forge
#

sli and crossfire is to connect two gpus for moar power (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

edgy copper
#

okay i see

agile bear
#

Micro stuttering doesn’t exist and two GPUs is the only way to live

edgy copper
#

what about going fully modular?

deep skiff
#

that psu is iirc

#

yeah it is

leaden dawn
#

You never go full modular SeriousEgg

edgy copper
#

these thermaltakes are pretty low scored ThinkingEgg

lime forge
#

if your budget allows for it, go fully modular, otherwise try to shoot for semi modular, and if you have to, go non modular

edgy copper
#

tough power, smart pro, or tough power grand .-.

lime forge
#

i got two tough powers from 11 years ago, they both still work

edgy copper
#

sorry for all the questions btw, im sure this gets annoying lol

leaden dawn
#

Were you even alive 11 years ago ThinkingEgg

lime forge
#

im 14

leaden dawn
#

So you bought psus when you were 3?

agile bear
#

22 years of psu

lime forge
#

i have two toughpowers

#

is what i mean

leaden dawn
#

He may be 14 but he's 22 in Jules

#

I'm just messin

#

Trying to make work fun

edgy copper
#

should i water cool?

#

or the semi water cool

lime forge
#

if youre not overclocking, nah

agile bear
#

Maybe get an aio if you travel with your pc a lot

lime forge
#

??

agile bear
#

Like I travel between college and home and it’s safer to have an aio than a air cooler

edgy copper
#

thats what i meant by the semi water cool lol

#

im currently looking at the cases, i need something with good air flow

agile bear
#

If you like the aesthetic of an aio and got budget sure but if you want value go for air

edgy copper
#

my college is only 20min away so moving aroun wont be an issue

#

id probab;y go with an aio

deep skiff
#

Go with at least 240mm, 120mm’s suck

edgy copper
#

thanks for the tip, iwent for the 120mm lol

#

i believe corsair had a really nice one with a built in screen on the aio

edgy copper
#

whats the difference between armor, duke, and gaming on the gpus?

deep skiff
#

the duke is the best cooling

#

try not to go with a blower card

urban adder
#

I went with water to quiet the pc down

#

Corsair one I got been runnin for 6 years

edgy copper
#

blower card?

#

im almost done putting this together

deep skiff
#

Get one like this (dual fan is fine just an example) @edgy copper

edgy copper
#

ohh okay, thanks for the info man! i didnt know there was a differnece

hazy seal
#

Yeah, Blowers.... blow

edgy copper
#

okay so, i currently have 2 motherboards, an asus prime z390-a thats comboed with the i9 or msi mpg z390. which is better? im saving about $30 according to the chart

#

i think the prime has more pci slots but im not sure, these specs are kinda hard to read

hazy seal
#

I always say ASUS... I have the z390-e amazing MOBO

edgy copper
#

no difference except for that extra pci slot

#

and wifi

hazy seal
#

Do you need the extra slot or WiFi?

#

And 30$ is 30$...

#

MSI has come a long way in the years... so they are not bad

edgy copper
#

wifi would be great, although i believe my wired connection on my wall works

#

then again i could always buy the extension

hazy seal
#

So... might as well spend 30$ get the WiFi built in... and not buy an adapter later

#

And should always go hardline if you can.. WiFi is too slow. Lol

crimson fox
#

I always recommend having WIFI as a backup tho

hazy seal
#

As backup... absolutely

native jolt
#

My router is right next to my pc, but I know that isn't the case with most. It's all about your needs. Also, Asus does make amazing boards, but MSI is no slouch either.

edgy copper
#

i probably wont get the combo then

still roostBOT
#
Thoth#9170 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

edgy copper
#

oops

lime forge
#

langauge theo_shakes

#

lol

leaden dawn
#

I think the online update tool is crazy

edgy copper
#

theres so many options like frick /heavy breathing/

leaden dawn
#

I wonder if that's common in most motherboards nowadays

leaden dawn
#

I was so surprised to see my bios would connect to the internet and grab the latest update

edgy copper
#

thats the combo that i picked

hazy seal
#

I love that with my MOBO...

native jolt
#

I remember when flashing the bios was a bear. It's so easy to deal with now

leaden dawn
#

yup, I used to be afraid of killing the bios lolz

native jolt
#

crazy that you could fry it from that. I did it only on major updates

coarse coral
lime sigil
#

If anyone needs help setting up a build just shoot me a message

leaden dawn
#

or just ask here so you can have the opinion of multiple nerds StarEgg

chilly marsh
#

yr

#

ye

compact cove
#

What's the better option? Onboard Mobo audio or sound card?

coarse coral
#

depends on your headset

#

or headphones

#

most mobo onboard is fine for most people

#

if you have headphones/set with high impedence you might want to invest in something with an amp or expensive soundcard

compact cove
#

I'm gonna either get 80 ohm beyerdynamic dt990 250 ohm I'll need an amp for them for sure

#

I meant the 80 ohm or 250 ohm version lol

coarse coral
#

250 you need an amp

compact cove
#

80 ohm is more than enough for me and it'll put out high quality audio

#

Yeah I know

coarse coral
#

50-80 is the borderline

compact cove
#

Might go 80 ohm for simplicity and savings

coarse coral
#

i have 50 ohm and its iffy with asus's onboard software

#

music its amazing

#

games...... its lacking

little osprey
#

An ALC 1220 can power 250 ohm dt990's fine

coarse coral
#

and its all the onboard sound doing the work

little osprey
#

But if you're an audiophile, you'll be getting a DAC anyway

compact cove
#

I have a PC part picker list for a 240hz setup for a little over 1500

little osprey
#

It's not just about the impedance though

coarse coral
compact cove
#

Nah I'm not that picky

#

If I can track properly enough with 32 oHm impedance on an Xbox controller, I'm sure 80 would be just fine

#

I'd probably get a mixer just to balance out treble and bass and stuff like that

little osprey
#

Haha your recommendation was right too thguh @coarse coral

coarse coral
#

the audio on the maximus xi makes me angry

#

music is loud enough, apex legends its quiet af no matter what

little osprey
#

In that it definitely depends on mobo audio chipset and what pair of cans

#

Which XI?

#

Don't say hero

coarse coral
#

hero wifi

compact cove
#

But yeah with the 240hz build, on the Mobo doesn't look like it has a sound card on it

#

I know mobos gotta be able to fit but damn yo how's a brother gonna get sound

#

I'll send the link

little osprey
#

Haha tbh, as long as you're not trying to push 250W all the time with no VRM heatsink airflow, honestly, Hero is fine]

compact cove
#

Gimme some tips here or there on some changes I could make to save dollars and/or build a more efficient machine with a 1500 budget

#

I'm just getting into PC gaming so any and all tips or constructive criticism is helpful

coarse coral
#

the mobo doesn't like my HD598SR

#

the asus onboard audio was fantastic on z270

#

but z390? nope

little osprey
#

You have the alc1220 on the hero I think

#

edit: clicked wrong link lol

coarse coral
#

is the alc1220 any good

little osprey
#

Ya, and the ones with the I2S separate headphone amp more-so

coarse coral
#

but the amplify settings for headset is so low

#

😦

#

ive tried looking online on how to improve it but nothing works out well

little osprey
#

DO you use the front panel or the back

coarse coral
#

front

little osprey
#

Hmm, I think there are two front panel headphone headers? a legacy and HD? I use a DAC so idk

#

Used to use a Xonar essence stx

#

@compact cove Are you building this all new? US?

compact cove
#

Yessir

coarse coral
#

theres only one audio fp connection on the board

little osprey
#

what games/programs are most important, monitor, how competitive are you

coarse coral
#

me?

#

apex legends so i need to hear foot steps

#

it was great back on the z270e board for asus strix

#

but this maximus xi board is making me angry

little osprey
#

him haha, but ya I'm looking at the asus z390 audio lineup

#

Ya, the XI hero has the ess es9023p

#

The strix E and F do not in the z390 lineup, , and the s1220a instead of the s1220

coarse coral
#

i just want higher amp off this damn thing

little osprey
#

What drivers do you have on it

coarse coral
#

music and videos are fine, apex legends is whisper quiet

#

ROG
SS3

#

since thats what the board uses

little osprey
#

Do you like using SS3?

coarse coral
#

no i have all effects disabled but in order to make apex legends louder i have to use it

little osprey
#

Is using the rear jack an option?

coarse coral
#

ill test it

little osprey
#

There is an auto-impedance sensing function, but if rear panel connection is an option, that should be best by far

chilly marsh
#

hey guys i got a question

#

ive been looking for laptops

#

and im seeming to like these two laptops but im not too sure on which on to get for school

#

budget is 350 or below

#

or we got

#

let me know your suggestions

coarse coral
#

back plug isnt any different @little osprey the amplification isnt enough in apex legends

little osprey
#

Did you re-calibrate the audio settings and stuff?

#

There's got to be options you can play around with

#

I used the z270-h and M9A audio for 2 years, I always tried my best to avoid any of that asus control software

#

I googled site:reddit.com (name of audio codec of my board) and my headphone model

#

had to browse a bit before I found non-idiot solutions that were also current

coarse coral
#

ive tried everything i could think of, nothing really solved my problem even people with same issue as me with hd598 didnt have their issue resolved

raven cloud
#

@coarse coral You tried messing with windows audio settings? You should be able to change the allowed volume on specific apps, It helped me when I tried, Windows has stupid automatic settings that bring your game volume low and it annoys me.

coarse coral
#

yep disaabled anything editing sound

crude galleon
#

@chilly marsh the first link you sent is probably the best one imho. 8gb with and SSD. For schoolwork you most likely won’t need much space if the laptop is for word documents and alike. More space can be added later if you desire. I would only recommend the second laptop if you intend you store a LOT of stuff on it and use the DVD player.

hollow sonnet
#

Does anyone knows what could be if my mobo is in an reboot loop

#

Even without the the cpu coler, ram gpu connected

#

Need some help pls 😟

#

@coarse coral you know something about this? 😟

floral parrot
#

I can try and help @hollow sonnet

coarse coral
#

@hollow sonnet explain, does it show bios screen?

hollow sonnet
#

@coarse coral no, just boot and reboot over and over

floral parrot
#

would you mind taking a video @hollow sonnet

hollow sonnet
#

Ok, sec

coarse coral
#

also what motherboard is it

floral parrot
#

yea i was gonna ask that next

hollow sonnet
#

Aorus master z390

#

Trying to send the video

coarse coral
#

LOL

floral parrot
#

jinx

hollow sonnet
#

I can't send a video 😂

#

Just allow me to take pictures haha

floral parrot
#

on the forum it said "It happened to me, I had no posting and when I was told to loosen my cooler, that was the problem. Google it is a very common problem. What happens is overtighting it causes the motherboard to warp or bend just enough for the contacts not to line up and/or touch."

hollow sonnet
#

How can i send a video

#

I can just take pictures 🤔

floral parrot
#

take the video click the plus and click the video and hit send

hollow sonnet
#

But it doens't appear :( just photos

floral parrot
#

oh i guess you can only send vidoes on pc

hollow sonnet
#

But is like this.. it power on then reboot

#

Im not even getting on the bios screen

floral parrot
#

ik

#

id say try uninstalling it and reinstalling it

hollow sonnet
#

Gonna take out the processor nos

#

Now

floral parrot
#

yeah i think taking out the mobo is your best bet

hollow sonnet
#

I think the mobo is the problem :(

floral parrot
#

yes on the forum it said that he put it in to tight and i guess that is what is happening to you so i think you should try and take it out and put it back in @hollow sonnet

hollow sonnet
#

Im just about to finish..

floral parrot
#

cool

#

dont screw in to tight

#

and make sure everything is plugged in well

hollow sonnet
floral parrot
#

looks good

hollow sonnet
#

Well.. gonna try :/

floral parrot
#

cross your fingers

coarse coral
#

nothing on the post code?

floral parrot
#

did it work?

hollow sonnet
#

Nop

floral parrot
#

rip

#

any post code

hollow sonnet
#

The code is changing

#

Now 78

coarse coral
#

whats that say in manual

hollow sonnet
#

Got on the bios 😱

coarse coral
#

nice

floral parrot
#

nicc

hollow sonnet
#

First time with ssd m.2

floral parrot
#

can you get it to boot form the bios

hollow sonnet
#

I think is ok right?

floral parrot
#

is what ok

hollow sonnet
#

Sending s photo

floral parrot
#

looks good

hollow sonnet
#

I think is working 😱

floral parrot
#

are you installing windows now @hollow sonnet?

hollow sonnet
#

Well got an error

#

But at least is working

#

Acpi core initialitation

#

What that even means xd

floral parrot
#

is it giving you error 78 on mobo? @hollow sonnet

hollow sonnet
#

Yep

hollow sonnet
#

Now again..

floral parrot
#

what?

hollow sonnet
#

It startes

#

Started

#

But i think is not booting from the usb...

floral parrot
#

go into bios and make it if u can

coarse coral
#

boot priority

#

in bios

hollow sonnet
#

Did it

coarse coral
#

plugged in the back of the mobo?

hollow sonnet
#

But it is like frozen with the aorus logo

coarse coral
floral parrot
#

uh oh

hollow sonnet
#

😟

floral parrot
#

try a different port

hollow sonnet
floral parrot
#

odd

hollow sonnet
#

Could be "broken" the mobo

#

If it doesnt boot 😟 ??

#

Is too wierd :(

coarse coral
#

disable all the other disks in boot priority list

#

just let the usb boot

floral parrot
#

yeah could try a different usb

#

but that is only if everything else fails

hollow sonnet
#

Could be the ram?

#

They are 3200mhz but look

floral parrot
#

i saw

hollow sonnet
floral parrot
#

there was a guy a lil while ago who had this same problem

coarse coral
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pick the xmp profile @hollow sonnet

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to set it to 3200

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it says your xmp is disabled on the other screen

floral parrot
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yeah the other guy was having a problem where it was restting to 2133 everytime he would boot up

hollow sonnet
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Ok i pickedd the profile 1

floral parrot
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ok so you got it to 3200

hollow sonnet
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It is like blocked

floral parrot
coarse coral
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restart the pc after you set the profile

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settings need to save

floral parrot
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yeah that too

coarse coral
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F10

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or whatever save is

latent bronze
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my neck hurts after trying to read his monitor

hollow sonnet
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But i cant change it to 3200

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Let me try

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Hahaha sorry

coarse coral
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its fine i see it say its setting to ddr4-3200

floral parrot
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??

coarse coral
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just needs a reboot prob

floral parrot
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oh yeah a reboot should do it

coarse coral
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i doubt this will solve your usb problem tho

floral parrot
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they dont seem to be connected

latent bronze
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I have mym memory set to 3000MHz

floral parrot
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what is native speed

hollow sonnet
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Still 2133

coarse coral
floral parrot
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im stumped

latent bronze
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my memory native speed is 3000MHz lol

hollow sonnet
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Wierd right?

floral parrot
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yeah

hollow sonnet
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Already reboot and is locked

latent bronze
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locked how?

floral parrot
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what the speed

hollow sonnet
latent bronze
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Wait i thought with Intel it doesn't need like really fast memory speeds 🤔

hollow sonnet
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I cant change the memory frequency, plus is not even booting windows :(

floral parrot
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well if he paid for 3200 he wants 3200 not 2133 @latent bronze

coarse coral
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question, did you create the windows usb key

hollow sonnet
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Is not necessary, just bought it because i want it

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Yep

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I have installed window before

coarse coral
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using the windows tool right

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ok

hollow sonnet
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With this usb

floral parrot
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ok that good

coarse coral
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so when the aorus splash screen comes up and you press f12 does the usb show

floral parrot
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yeah i saw it in the pic

hollow sonnet
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Now this... 😟

coarse coral
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this is from what

latent bronze
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Reaper i got to ask did you just build this system?

floral parrot
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i belive so

hollow sonnet
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Just reboot again and that happened

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Yep

floral parrot
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go into bios

latent bronze
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i am not scrolling all the way up it is too much to read

hollow sonnet
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Just did it

floral parrot
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k

latent bronze
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Are you also sure you set the right drive for booting into?

hollow sonnet
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Is alreadt recognized by the sistem

floral parrot
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does it automatically try to boot off of usb

coarse coral
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sigh

hollow sonnet
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Yep

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But got the logo

latent bronze
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I manually set my boot options just in case

hollow sonnet
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Aorus one and then frozen

floral parrot
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ok

coarse coral
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and you've tried booting by pressing f12

hollow sonnet
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Done that :/ still the problem

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Yep

coarse coral
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ok

floral parrot
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you think it is a problem with the bios chip @coarse coral

hollow sonnet
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I think that the bios is corrupted :/

floral parrot
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i was thinking the same thing

coarse coral
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does the board have a bios flastback

floral parrot
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yeah if so you can reinstall the bios or maybe update if needed

hollow sonnet
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What is that? Sorry im from chile, dont know that word

floral parrot
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flashback

hollow sonnet
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Have q-flash option

coarse coral
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Q-Flash allows the user to quickly and easily upgrade or back up BIOS without entering the operating system.

hollow sonnet
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Gonna try something, installing my old ssd

floral parrot
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yeah it s on most high end boards

latent bronze
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Wouldn't also removing and putting it back on the battery on the motherboard would reboot the bios?

floral parrot
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yeah that could help

hollow sonnet
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But i need to have it in a usb or something like that?

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(Did it ecks)

floral parrot
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yea you need usb with bios on it

latent bronze
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going out to get grocery be back in like an hour 😛

floral parrot
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cya

hollow sonnet
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Well

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It isnt even starting

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My old ssd

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It have windows instLled

floral parrot
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oh shoot maybe you should return the mobo

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where did you get it

hollow sonnet
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Yeah.. the thing is im from chile :(

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Newegg

floral parrot
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and you speak english?

coarse coral
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do the bios flashback with the newest bios on their website

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and see if it helps

hollow sonnet
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Yeah.. gonna need to borrow a pc

floral parrot
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yeah as a final thing try that

hollow sonnet
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To download it

floral parrot
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thats why i have my stack of old laptops 😝

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sorry

mossy crescent
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Hey - first time builder. Installing a deepcool Gammax GT BLK on my MSI x570 gaming edge... the silver brackets that came with the cooler don’t quite line up with the holes on the mother board. Am I doing something silly?

hollow sonnet
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😟

floral parrot
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i am sorry @hollow sonnet

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and i belive you are doing it right from the info i have @mossy crescent

mossy crescent
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Omg, sorry. Apparently the screws slide on the brackets. Came here as a last resort and managed to get it. Didn’t try fiddling cause I’m so damn scared of breaking something hahaha

floral parrot
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so you got it @mossy crescent

coarse coral
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are you using the right mounting clips @mossy crescent

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oh

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LOL

mossy crescent
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Yeah sorry hahaha I didn’t see that the screws on the bracket have some wiggle room to slide in a bit Hahahaha

floral parrot
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lol have a good one @mossy crescent

mossy crescent
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Ty sir

hollow sonnet
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Well guys ty :/

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A lot

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Gonna try to update the bios and contact newegg 😟

coarse coral
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which memory is it

floral parrot
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yeah sorry i couldnt help

coarse coral
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btw