building-and-recc-chat

[formal mica]

Current

[mental hazel]

tbf short of a 5090 there isn't much meaningful gains to be had for games. i'd wait for RDNA 5 and Zen 6

[formal mica]

Only thing i can think is mb and cpu wanted to see what other peoples opinons were

[formal mica]

Ok

5090 not much of a gain either

[mental hazel]

could upgrade CPU. x3D is quite lovely. would depend on the games you play though. when it makes a difference it's rather significant. other times i could scarcely notice i wasn't using my 7700x

7700x is still very powerful though so i wouldn't feel pressure to just yet, unless your games will benefit from it heavily

[formal mica]

My cpu suffers in vrchat lol

That game takes so much ram also lol

[mental hazel]

like 50% tbf, but not close to double and it's a $3500 card... not remotely worth it

[mental hazel]

understandable, you may actually benefit from x3d. iirc VRC was really heavily single thread bound, and having boatloads of on die cache tends to help with at least keeping that single thread fed constantly

i play an old 2006 RTS that runs on a single thread. 2026 mods push the game engine to the absolute limit because of that. i found my 7800x3d ran it remarkably better than my 7700x

i would look into how 7800x3d/9800x3d handle VRC vs your 7700x

[formal mica]

Ok thanks

[crimson zinc]

Get a niche case
Like go for a weird one

[formal mica]

Lol

To be fair i do hate my case if i got new case i woulf also get a new mb for m.2 slots etc.

Spent that much money and built it myself for a black box pretty much lol

[crimson zinc]

Go modernize a vintage case like I did with my CM Stacker 831

[formal mica]

Thats more of a box lol

[formal mica]

bruh why did I go looking at cases When I first built my pc I wanted a chainsaw man setup and I got mousepad and keyboard but there was no case and now starforge is selling one for 300 };

[frigid edge]

custom cases expensive

[crimson zinc]

@formal mica you could build it in a random item

Like a car wheel

Or a boom box

Thats custom cases

[formal mica]

lol

[wary stone]

Hey question so im looking to buy the montech king 95 pro case and install my own fans instead of using the fans that come with it

I have a set of 4 Arctic p12 pro 120mm fans a set of 3 Arctic p12 pro 120mm reverse blade fans and 2 140mm artic p14 pro reverse blade fans

[frigid edge]

ok then nice

[icy hull]

If you don't want the fans why the king 95 pro? Do you like the curved glass? Might look at the sama v60 for something cheaper, that has a no fans version. Or maybe antec c5 or c8 which have curved models too.

[coarse obsidian]

I do have a built system ready. It has 16gb ddr4 ram, msi b365m pro-vh motherboard, 500watt thermaltake smart psu, intel i5 series cpu with stock cooler, 500gb ssd. I also have a 2tb ssd I'll throw in to go with it. I believe the case is a cooler master. I put an asus disc drive in. If you're interested, I'll sell this to you for $120.

@mental hazel ||I hope its okay to ping you|| the person who sold me the b570 just sent me this

[mental hazel]

that's 9th gen at best, no PCIE 4.0 and super spotty resizable bar support, both of which you need for good performance on b570/80

my i5 9400f was struggling in games when i had it almost 6 years ago now

i wouldn't take that tbh

[coarse obsidian]

I mean for 120 I have a good starting off point no?

also

just for the 2 terabyte ssd

Is worth that just alone

[mental hazel]

i didn't realize that was part of the PC, i though you meant that you had one to put with the other components

if it's in good condition yeah it's worth it for the SSD alone

[coarse obsidian]

no yeah that whole thing is 120 together

Yknow at least its something that I can use for rn

bc I dont have anything yknow?

[mental hazel]

if you need storage yah snag that. would probably sell board and CPU but you can keep ram

[coarse obsidian]

and its not like im wasting money on something i wont use

[coarse obsidian]

yes indeed

and try to find the same ram, or sell it and buy 32 gbs

[mental hazel]

go for it seems like a good deal

[coarse obsidian]

yah I will

probably tomorrow

got off work and its already almost 6

[mental hazel]

if it works out lmk and i'll do some deal hunting for the rest of your build (new board and CPU)

[zealous moth]

PC used for
Editing
Local AI model
Blender
Games

Ram
64GB DDR4
GPU
B50

Heres the reasonn I need Help

a 5900XT is 415 CAD
12700K is 400 CAD
the issue is the Mobo B760 I aorus AX is 300 CAD
a B550I Aorus AX is 250
I've been told 12700K is a better productivity PC but is the mobo cost worth it ?
[REP],

[mental hazel]

5900xt is better for multithreading, 12700k is better for gaming

price difference is pretty negligible. get the 12700k if you care more about games, 5900 xt if you care more about your multithreaded apps

[zealous moth]

where did you get it from btw

[mental hazel]

get what from?

[zealous moth]

The Muti thread source

[mental hazel]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-12700k-alder-lake-12th-gen/12.html

5950x and 5900xt are the same CPU

so just look at 5950x results

[icy hull]

12700k gives you quick sync too which you might want if you're doing video editing.

Oh, if you are using an arc GPU that might not be relevant though.

[zealous moth]

I'm between a B580 and 7800XT

We also have to put in considration I'm using a Silverstone SUGO 16

[icy hull]

Is there a 7800xt that fits? There would be a few short enough but they are all 2.5 slots.

[zealous moth]

Well
The Refrence model
Challanger
and BASE powercolor

okay

SO it seems like I'm just getting the B580

[icy hull]

I guess there is more room than I thought. This is a 2 slot gpu and there is still probably about another inch left to the top of the case.

[zealous moth]

Okay THATS scary space

[icy hull]

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/cnBcCJ This is a reference 7800xt and it fits but looks like it hangs out the back a bit in the 4th pic.

[zealous moth]

Okay

so Intel has the best features
(No Nvidia)

Encoder wise B580 is better then 7700XT

Worse at blending

way better at AI

and Linux

well I'll wait for a 7700XT

[mental hazel]

definitely worse at linux

[gentle pollen]

From having had to learn how to design a PC case and making a compact one that fits a ton of full size parts, I just want to say ISTG SFF/COMPACT systems are a pita to work with.

@icy hull @zealous moth

Especially when weird dimensional requirements come into play

[gentle pollen]

I wonder what the temps are like in this.

[icy hull]

I wouldn't think too bad with it being all mesh. Top intake seems like a dust magnet to me.

[gentle pollen]

The GPU heat dumping onto the ram and warming up the CPU 's intake air is unfortunate.

[icy hull]

Most people run their ram at stock or ~1.35 xmp though.

[gentle pollen]

Fair enough. I wonder what the expected flow path is because the cpu cooler is in taking and blasting hot air down at the board and so is the GPU.

[icy hull]

Psu has its own vent, gpu in, then cross flow through the body to push the gpu and cpu heat out the same direction the psu is exhausting? I think that's what I'd do anyway.

[gentle pollen]

Looks like the fan next to the GPU is meant to be a exhaust to try and remove the excessive hot air as it generated.

[static cosmos]

If I upload a build, can i get help to make sure all the components are compatible?

[weary galleon]

Yep. PCPartPicker.com will also do a compatibility check

[static cosmos]

Thanks I'll give that a look first.

[viscid hatch]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/powered-by-amd/274757/sapphire-pulse-amd-radeon-rx-9060-xt-gaming-oc-16gb-gddr6-11350-03-20g.html

is this good

[frigid edge]

yes very

[sick lichen]

At this point what would be a better upgrade? 34in LED to 34in OLED or RTX 3090 to 5080 (lol 5090 prices)

[crimson zinc]

The gpu.

[mental hazel]

unless it's a really crappy and low res display definitely 5090. OLEDs are gorgeous and mine is probably the most notable uograde i've made in years. but that's only because i play the same four games so i have no need to run higher than 400fps in the games i already play

i'm assuming you're playing far more demanding games at higher resolutions

[sick lichen]

Well I can't justify a 5090 atm when they're like $3k a pop

5080 is more manageable

[frigid edge]

Unless you can find a 4080 super for well under a cheaper 5080, go for it

[mental hazel]

oh i misread your message lol, i had just woken up. in that case 5070 ti makes more sense it's $300-500 less expensive usually and only about 15% weaker. and a lot of that is just lower out of box clocks. crank the PL to 5080 levels and add a small clock offset in afterburner and you have yourself a 5080 lite

[weary galleon]

I'd argue for value per dollar getting an oled is probably better than upgrading your gpu

[viscid hatch]

I cant screw the cpu fans help

[mental hazel]

if he can sell the 3090 then the GPU upgrade is pretty inexpensive. 3090's are going for $800-1000. 5070 ti has been available on amazon for around $880 pretty consistently, and sometimes newegg has OB deals for less

[dusty cedar]

today is a terrible time to try building a pc. tf is going on with the cost of ssd's? i remember getting the 2tb 990 pros for under 300 dollars just a few years ago.

insanity

[mental hazel]

PNY CS3150 isn't terrible value. $175 for a 1TB, which isn't great, but it's a wicked fast Gen 5 drive. most other drives in its class are gen 4's or gen 4's so slow that they may as well be gen 3's

if you're a studen you save 5%, and it also comes bundled with a free vpn service that you may or may not find useful

[icy hull]

You can get a decent-good 2tb for $300. That's triple what they were a couple years ago and at least double what they should be.

[mental hazel]

p5 plus mogs and it's only $200
https://a.co/d/0hje947a

[twilit pewter]

Omg I bought this for like 140 or something

169*

[dusty cedar]

exactly. I just wanted to expand on my laptop storage and was like oh yeah its only like a couple hundred after taxes. no big deal. 600+ after taxes today? no thanks. wtf happened? i knew ram was going up in price cause of ai but why tf are ssd prices in whole other universe? i'm guessing same reason?

[icy hull]

Yeah, pretty much the same reason.

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/wd-black-sn850p-2tb-internal-ssd-pcie-gen-4-x4-with-heatsink-for-ps5/JXJ62C6HFY This isn't too crazy in the current market, it's basically an sn850x. Would probably have to take the heatsink off for a laptop is all.

[verbal thicket]

Can anyone help me get into this pc I was given?

[obsidian wigeon]

What are the exact symptoms that the pc is exhibiting?

Does it turn on, but won't post?

Or does it not turn on at all

[verbal thicket]

Ok it’s on now

It’s locked and giver is not answering abt password.

I had a bad ram stick

[obsidian wigeon]

Ah

You can bypass the password if it's not a bios password

[verbal thicket]

Can I reset thru bios or anything?

Yeah it’s no

Not a bios

Just windows password

[obsidian wigeon]

Reinstall windows or get into winRE by holding shift key and clicking restart, then you'll want to use the command prompt in there

You can create a new user, but I would recommend reinstalling windows anyway if you can

[verbal thicket]

How would I do so

I have a 128 gb usb I can use but where would I get windows

[obsidian wigeon]

You'll want to plug that usb drive into another PC that you can use

[verbal thicket]

Ok

[obsidian wigeon]

Grab windows media creation tool from microsoft

Run it and follow the prompts it gives you

[verbal thicket]

Ok do I need to format this usb?

I have other things on there

[obsidian wigeon]

Uhh yeah, it will format your drive

[verbal thicket]

Ok

[obsidian wigeon]

Move your stuff around first before formatting the usb drive

[verbal thicket]

I’m gonna try and get this done need this computer asap

I have school in the morning

I start start college in 5 days so

[verbal thicket]

Success!

[verbal thicket]

Your a legend

[obsidian wigeon]

You're welcome

[zealous moth]

should I get a framework desktop 395+ 64GB or a 270K plus with Intel B60
great question

same price

the B60 and 270K plus have 48gbs

so does the Framework (24gb to 8060s)

SORRY MISSCOUNTED

I CAN GO WITH A B70

[analog hearth]

I know that I'm a backseat mod when trying to get build help from #general-chat to this channel, but wow I'm genuinely surprised by how dead this channel is wtf

[frigid edge]

lol

[fickle bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-the-harvest-is-beautiful-this-year-dog-eating-strawberry-dog-happy-dog-gif-25096638

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3rqbh9

so if I were to upgrade wife’s pc, with the cheapest possible options on am4, but still getting a performance jump, what would I do?

Budget of like $300(this would be in a little while, but with current prices, idc)

[weary galleon]

For $300, probably a 6700xt

And then later a 5500 or 5600?

Idk

[icy hull]

Might be able to find a 3080 for 300. What's the use case though? If she's playing city builders or cyberpunk or competitive games those are different goals.

[crimson zinc]

Most intensive game wanted to play is oblivion remastered

[icy hull]

I'd expect that the gpu is what you want then. Might need to do the ram too at higher settings but well... thanks, Sam Altman.

[weary galleon]

Yeah I'd definitely prioritize gpu

If you could find a 3080 10gb for $300 that would be solid

[warm badge]

building a mid PC

Ryzen 7 5700 CPU with RX 6600 8GB, 32GB DDR4 3200, 650 Watt PSU, 512 GB SSD, MSI Tomohawk B450 MAX AM4 mobo

comes to about 620 dollars

Imma sell it for 1k

[icy hull]

gl

[warm badge]

wym

ram alone is a quarter of the cost

[weary galleon]

32gb ddr4 is like $120, not $250

and good luck selling at a 61% markup

[warm badge]

lol

the cheap ram was 200 for 32gb when I checked 4 hours ago

yall arent bsing me

[icy hull]

People aren't going to pay new from the store prices for a used pc.

[weary galleon]

Nobody is gonna pay new prices for ddr4

Also is it a base 5700?

Half the L3 cache of a 5700x

And pcie 3.0

It's basically a 5700G with a scrapped igpu iirc

[crimson zinc]

@icy hull @weary galleon $300 needs to be for both cpu and gpu

She also plays a few cpu bound games her system currently struggles with

[weary galleon]

Uhh

I don't think there's any upgrade worth doing cpu+gpu for $300

If you got a solid deal on a 5500 or 3600 and a 6700xt, maybe?

[icy hull]

Already had a 3600.

5600s have gotten expensive too, they're over 150. And you're not getting anything better than a 5700xt for that other 150.
5800xt for $200 or find a used 5600, 5600x or 5700x would be the ones to look at for a CPU. Probably an 8 core imo.

[crimson zinc]

[icy hull]

You can look at it this way. Difference from a 5700xt to a 3080 in the graphically demanding games is about double. Difference between a ryzen 3600 and 5600 is more like 15%ish.

You might be able to find 3060ti around $200 and a used 5600 around $100 though.

[weary galleon]

Completely misread as a 2600, whoops

[mental hazel]

there are like three brand new PCs currently sold on newegg with better specs for significantly less money than you are asking

sounds like you got scammed and are trying to get out of the hole tbh

[mental hazel]

used 32GB kits sell for like $120 tops

[low lynx]

https://www.buildcores.com/builds/wZ5ZD52CD

Good day fellas, im making ny first pc and while ive had many ideas and tips from friends who helped me change my build overtime, i do want some additional opinions regarding my build.

Atm i already purchased the CPU. However i would like suggestions for:

GPU - Should i choose a different type of brand for the 9070 XT?
|
One of my friends doesn't recommend me the 9070XT due to having ai on it and recommends the 6950 XT instead. Any thoughts?

Case - Full Tower is what im aiming for but if theres a md tower with just the same space or better airflow, im open to suggestions. Same if theres a better full tower.

AIO - Ive heard lian li is very good but is the one i chose better than it or which one yall reccomended that is very strong?

Motherboard - All my friends said that this is a perfect motherboard for the build, i wouldn't mind putting just a lil bit extra if i can get a better one.

[icy hull]

Full tower doesn't really mean anything solid. It'll depend who you ask where the line between mid tower and full tower is. Might be something as unlikely to be relevant as having 8 pcie slots instead of 7.
You have no ram listed?

[low lynx]

The link should have it but its the

Patriot Viper VP4300 Lite 4TB SSD M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVMe

[low lynx]

When it comes to the case since i live in a tropical zone with alot of humidity at times i do want a bigger case so the gpu and cpu have some breathing room rather than having it tightly crammed

[icy hull]

That's an ssd, there are two of them. Do you think you need 6tb?

[low lynx]

The 2TB SSD i want it solely for the OS and applications while the 4TB NVME will be strictly for games and emulators

[icy hull]

Is it US or do you want help with specific parts picked out? Stuff like ssd, motherboard, psu, gpu it's often whatever is on sale. With some models to avoid.

[low lynx]

Puerto Rico.

Which models ya suggest avoiding?

In this case im looking for suggestions to see if from the perspective of advance builders if my build is good or if i should invest on a pricier component

[icy hull]

It's more models than brands and depends which component. Ssd it can be pretty complicated and depends which one you're using for what. Like an extra games/storage drive it's fine to go cheaper/lower end than you would for an C: drive.

[low lynx]

I chose 2TB for the SSD cuz with he gaming laptop that i have, 1TB wasnt enough for everything that i had downloaded. Thats why I want to have 2 storage components, even if they tend to be on a pricier side

Originally the NVME was the Samsung EVO but that shit is mad expensive

[icy hull]

870 evo sata ssd? They are very expensive now. I'm looking at prices on a few things and then I'll type some stuff up with explanations.

[low lynx]

A friend of mine suggested the nvme cuz of a warranty/protection that the company has if something happens to the memory

[low lynx]

Also i just noticed that the ram was removed from the list. Ill add it in a moment but this is the ram i chose

G.SKILL Trident Z5 32GB [2 x 16GB] DDR5 SDRAM Memory Kit

Doesnt really need to be RGB tbh

[icy hull]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fXgF8Z
The 7800x3d is good. You don't really need to worry about getting a high end model of aio for it, it's extremely efficient and will pretty much always be under 100W. If you do want a higher end one I'd probably go with the corsair nautilus or the montech hyperflow rather than the arctic or a lian li. The arctic liquid freezer ii was top of its class while being cheap but the iii doesn't really live up to that.

I'd get a motherboard with pcie gen 5 support instead of a b650 eagle. This b850 livemixer has that and it's got some higher end features like upgraded audio and a ton of usb ports too. Some people hate asrock boards though, I included the next cheapest one with pcie gen 5 I'd really consider and a b650 asus tuf plus wifi that's only $130 if you want something cheap and don't care about pcie gen 5. I think I'd favor the livemixer on sale that cheap.

Swapped out the sata ssd for a good gen 4 2tb nvme in the sn850p, you can ignore the playstation branding, it's the same as a normal desktop drive it just has a PS stamp on the heatsink. And there is a sale for the same 4tb model you picked. I'm not sure I'd bother getting one until/unless you actually need it. Ssd prices are rather terrible currently. They might continue getting worse though too, they've been steadily going up since around September.

The mercury is the best model of 9070xt and it's on sale for $740, if you want an overbuilt cooler this is the one to get and it's normally more like $800+. If you're sure you want a 9070xt I'd get that before it sells out or the sale ends. $20 more than a base model is a great price.

A different fairly large midtower. If you are getting a 360mm aio you want a case you can mount it on the top. That's not true of all midtowers but this one is fairly deep. It's also got better fans and better build quality and features than a pop air. I have the original version of the 4000d which was a bit smaller but similar. The front dust filter on this case is much nicer than most cases and doesn't use awful plastic clips.

I put a cheaper power supply option too. I have the 1000W 13m myself, if you value silent operation its the best at that. That's why I bought mine, to replace one with a loud crappy fan.

https://www.newegg.com/tools/combo-builder/6675

[low lynx]

Thank you very much for the suggestions. Atm since i have to work tmrw ill prob hit the hay soon but after work i can take a look at the suggestions throughly and if i need to buy something tmrw due to it being on sale i can probably go for it.

But do ya think that maybe i should wait for a bigger sale in some of the components (aside from the ram and ssd/nvme)? I do have patience and if i have to wait a few months for a summer or November sale then idm at all

[icy hull]

If you're going to wait for anything (other than a secondary ssd that's not necessary) I'd probably wait for everything. The gpu is the only thing that's a good price and that's just because the base model ones are like $100 more than they were meant to be, msrp was $600.

Having stuff sitting around unused and untested while your return window to send it back to the store if it's defective expires isn't a great idea. Dealing with a manufacturer warranty is more work and you can end up having to cover shipping.

$350 for 2x16gb ram is about as good as it's been for the last few months, it's seemingly leveled off around there. Ssds seem to still be going up, a good 2tb would have been around $250 about a month ago. The other stuff is the normal price.

[low lynx]

Atm the only thing i own is the cpu cuz i got it from amazon on a sale. But then ill probably maybe start to buy things little by little since i cant just throw 1500+ in one go atm but i doubt it should take me long. But yeah, ill check out your suggestions tmrw and see if maybe i start buying the pieces soon!

[frigid edge]

recommending a corsair aio in the big 26

just get thermalright

[still minnow]

This is my set up, should I leave it as it is? (Going to add another rear fan and push and pull radiator)

Or should I put the radiator on the side and put the universal screen on the top of motherboard

[zealous moth]

Whats a Gen 5 riser I can put inside of the fractual ridge

[wide sparrow]

is buying a used cooler master SFX PSU off amazon a good idea?

[crimson zinc]

Yes

[wide sparrow]

alright

[languid nimbus]

No

[magic shale]

Thank you.

[crimson zinc]

No

[knotty wharf]

I made a post on reddit a while ago asking for help with my PC randomly restarting and then failing to boot Windows, then starting a loop of saying it's Preparing Automatic Repair. I recently tried to reinstall Windows on it because I was told that I should try that by a Newegg rep before doing anything else, and I am having trouble with this. When I try to use the bootable flash drive from the f11 boot menu, the screen goes black and then goes back to the Preparing Automatic Repair loop. Here is a video: https://imgur.com/gallery/issue-CK4JJof I have other photos useful for this, but I can't link them because the title on imgur has a swear in it ?

My reddit posts are here, which have as much information as I was able to get and give. The photos are also able to found from there if you don't want to ask me directly for the link in DMS: https://www.reddit.com/r/iBUYPOWER/s/pWqftsNAqV https://www.reddit.com/r/Newegg/s/OggcCUHHix

Please help me fix this I'm a complete noob and I spent too much on this for it to stop working after a month

[inland cloak]

0. reset CMOS
1. ensure the parts are in properly
2. try to reinstall windows w/ USB
3. After it loops (which it will), turn the PC off, take the USB out, and reboot the PC

try those steps and see

[placid vigil]

Hypothetically

at what price and which gpu would be good to upgrade

from a 2070s

At 1440p

if my budget is like ~600 plus whatever i can get for the 2070s

[weary galleon]

9070xt for ~$700

Though depending on the game the 3700x may limit the 9070xt a bit

[knotty wharf]

yea idk where anything is in my computer lol i bought a prebuilt for a reason, i don't know where exactly the cmos battery is. I have reseated the RAM and I don't know how to do anything else. I don't expect you guys to walk me through everything step by step but I don't know what I am doing here, at all, and I have no idea where to begin. I don't even know where to go for support. This shouldnt even be happening

[mental hazel]

9070 non XT. regularly at $600 which saves you $100-150 vs the full XT. 12.5% performance gap, you'll never notice the difference. non XT is more efficient also which is nice

put 2070 earnings into an AM5/LGA1954 fund for a later upgrade

if you flip your whole platform + your earnings from the 2070 super you could probably get entry level AM5 right now if you felt like it tbh

[languid nimbus]

[placid vigil]

Thanks guys 🙏

[icy hull]

9070 then save some or put it toward a CPU imo.

[mental hazel]

^

[crimson zinc]

wtf is this

This igpu is basically a 4060 lmao

[frigid edge]

128gb ddr5 and 2tb storage

ryzen ai max cpu

[languid nimbus]

[mental hazel]

overpriced

[wide sparrow]

Hhmmm

[dusty coyote]

Anyone have any ideas on why this Pc, when you turn it on or wake it up from being asleep, the first game I play, it will get through the menus and then suddenly shutdown and restart. After that, it works fine the rest of the day as long as I don’t turn it off or put it to sleep.

[mental hazel]

what CPU and motherboard are you using

if it's a core 200 series CPU it could be d2d (more specifically VNNAON voltage) related

you get a lot of weird sleep behaviour with the VNNAON rail

[dusty coyote]

I’ll have to look again at the motherboard because I’m blanking on it right now and I’m not home but it’s the 5900X AM4 CPu

[mental hazel]

have you messed with iod/iog voltages?

[dusty coyote]

This may sound horrible but what are iod and iog voltage?

[mental hazel]

if you don't know of them i doubt you've changed them. and to my knowledge XMP doesn't touch those voltages so it shouldn't be that

how old is your windows install and GPU driver version?

[dusty coyote]

Just reinstalled windows and updated gpu driver

[warm badge]

trying to flash the bios and the light keeps flashing three times and remaining solid, which I know means it failed to flash the bios

I dont know what the issue is though, I've tried with two different USB sticks

it is formatted to FAT32, and I am renaming the BIOS file to MSI.ROM

[icy hull]

It's a bios for the exact right model of board? Not a different revision or a non wifi version or anything.
USB is in the right slot?
PC is plugged in and off?

[warm badge]

yeah

it';s necessary to create a mbr partition on the flash drive and windows is not recognizing the file system after I format it that way, so I can't transfer the bios file to the USB stick

[warm badge]

I have an old cpu Imma throw in it so it'll boot, and I'll flash the bios using the Bios

[fickle bolt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xqy3bp yall fw this or no

Should be the final parts list for my dad if no one raises any recommendations

We gonna have matching cpu/gpu specs fr

[icy hull]

What was the use case for 64gb of ram and a mainstream amd gpu?

[fickle bolt]

Mostly adobe/affinity, 64gb of ram is so he can keep chrome open without his pc having a brain bleed because of the sheer number of tabs

He won't be doing video work or anything, so the 9060XT should be almost overkill lol

[icy hull]

It would. Some stuff you might be interested in. And I'd probably get a montech hyperflow or a thermalright instead of the lfiii pro. Lfiii pro forces you to use a fairly subpar contact frame.

https://www.newegg.com/tools/combo-builder/6675

They also have the 265k and kf for cheaper, $230-280 and with a free 750W cxm corsair.

[fickle bolt]

Noice

Full modular and gold rated?

[icy hull]

Cxm? It's bronze and semi modular. I probably wouldn't buy one but I wouldn't be afraid of using a free one either.
The asrock phantom gaming is though, yeah. https://www.cybenetics.com/evaluations/psus/2751/ This one is a really good fsp model under the asrock branding stickers.

[fickle bolt]

I shall see

Worst case, I get a free spare psu

[vale ibex]

Hi, could someone perhaps explain to me why this PC Case (Corsair 4500X RS-R) is not listed as "compatible" with the rest of my build? https://newegg.io/162975c

[icy hull]

It's wrong about that a lot. It's usually the psu or cooler that makes it screw up.
You can get the samsung 9100 pro 4tb for $600, or the 2tb for $260.
Make sure it takes the extra $80 off the ram.
I'd look at the x870e tomahawk pz and the b850 aorus ice stealth too. They both do a bit better job on the all white.
If you're interested thermalright has some cheaper aios like the vision series and the frozen warframe with screens for around $100. They have a knock off of the tryx to but it's so expensive you might as well get a tryx.

[vale ibex]

These are good suggestions, I'm not sure how to get those discounts you have shown. Everything was compatible until I entered the case so I am wondering if the case will work or not.

[frigid edge]

yes the case will work

its glitching

[icy hull]

https://www.newegg.com/tools/combo-builder/6675

[rare plover]

Hi

[frigid edge]

whatcha need help doing?

[rare plover]

Nvm

[mental hazel]

you can get good z890's for the same price and used DDR5 is radically cheaper than that, you can probably get some cheap OEM a die for it and just pump it to 7200 or whatever with extremely minimal tuning

lowkenuinely if you want cheap DDR5 i'll give you my 64GB kit for like $400

@fickle bolt

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rZHy4g
https://ebay.us/m/21yJTf

now homie gets a 9070 and better RAM (after tuning)

[fickle bolt]

Still some room in the budget, I can get him a 265 non kf as well

[mental hazel]

i also have a z890 i can flip you for like $100 if you want

[mental hazel]

270k non f even
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YTqF8Z

[fickle bolt]

Nah I think we'll be fine, idrk if I wanna go used because no warranty

If his computer breaks, that's our main source of income out for however long

[mental hazel]

$40 more than your original list, but includes new RAM now and a 270k
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FZvJfp

could also just stick with 265kf to stay in the same price range but idk, i like 270k

[fickle bolt]

Ye plus redundancy, if the gpu breaks he can still use it

[mental hazel]

i think i pasted the same link again lol, i edited the correct one in

[fickle bolt]

Should work fine, worst case i drop it back to a 9060xt, which would not be bad at all for his line of work

They both only have three output ports💀

[mental hazel]

three dp, the 9070 also has an hdmi. i assume the 9060 xt probably has the same output

[fickle bolt]

Mine has 2 dp and an hdmi

[mental hazel]

strange, i didn't realize AMD cut down the video outs on the 9060 xt

[rare plover]

Would anyone even use 3 monitors with a mid end gpu

[weary galleon]

Uhh, why not?

[fickle bolt]

Yes?

[rare plover]

for what tho other than if you do work that needs 3 monitors

[fickle bolt]

Center: game
Left: YouTube
Top: resources for game/discord

[rare plover]

🥀

[fickle bolt]

Or if I'm doing 3d stuff:
Center: orcaslicer or blender
Left: youtube
Top: armorsmith or blender documentation

[warm badge]

to hold all my Brave tabs

[deep spruce]

I have a Friend that Need's help with his current Build an he wants to Upgrade an Here is his Spec's

SkyTechLLC PC: Ryzen 7 7500, RTX 5060 8gb, 32GB of I believe is 3200 CL16 T-Skill, ASROCK 550M Motherboard and 650W 80+ GOLD PSU

He want to be able to do Live Stream and VR

[fickle bolt]

Ddr4 on a 7th Gen r7?

[deep spruce]

Let me Call him. I'm doing this from work and not home

[fickle bolt]

Fair

[deep spruce]

Its AM4 he thinks

[fickle bolt]

R7 7500 is AM5, so either the cpu is wrong or the mobo/ram is, and I'm not sure which

[deep spruce]

Ok im telling him right now

[fickle bolt]

Either way, does he want a clean-slate new system or upgrade his current one

[deep spruce]

my bad its not 7500 its a 5700

[fickle bolt]

Ok that makes much more sense

He's pretty much at the top of the upgrade path cpu-wise, mobo swap i think would be the best option

[deep spruce]

Ok what MB do you Recommand for him?

[fickle bolt]

Unless he's only got an mATX board, b550 is the only option for a reasonable price, so I'm not even sure an upgrade is that necessary there either tbh

Although, personally, I would wait for more people's opinions, the more the better preferably

[vital sinew]

Yep, it's a mATX

If need be I can grab the full name

[deep spruce]

This would be fast so you can see what we are talking about

[fickle bolt]

Oh lol are you the person in question

[vital sinew]

Yeah

My brother got me a pre built PC cause he was tired of me using a laptop

[deep spruce]

Yes he is

[fickle bolt]

Does the case support atx or nah

[vital sinew]

It should, if not I've been looking at different cases anyways

[fickle bolt]

Alr one sec, getting a list together

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pswW3R idk what storage/ case you have, so I added those in

cpu and mobo upgraded, idk if you want a new gpu

Like I said earlier tho I personally would wait for a second opinion, I'm not exactly the most well informed in this business

[vital sinew]

Yeah please, my current GPU doesn't like my VR to much

[vital sinew]

Understandable

[fickle bolt]

You could probably go with most cards tbh, not as adaptable as the 7/9800x3d but 5700x is still quite capable, it would seem

[vital sinew]

Unfortunately it's the plan old 5700 I was thinking for awhile now a R7 5800XT or maybe pick up a Ryzen 9 of some kind

[fickle bolt]

5950X would be the best if you want to not need new ram

[vital sinew]

Sounds good

[icy hull]

Those specs seem pretty reasonable, a 5700 isn't ideal but it's alright. There is basically no point going from one b550 to another b550 unless there is a problem with your current one. Do you have 16gb of ram or 32? And what sort of problem are you having or limit are you running into that makes you want to upgrade?

[vital sinew]

32gb of ram. I've been wanting to start with GPU upgrade cause I see a lot of performance drops while in VR. Doesn't help that it's 2000x2040 per eye at 120Hz. I have the resolution cut down a lot and I still at times get stuck with 12-15 frames

[icy hull]

If you wanted to upgrade the cpu then I think you've got the right idea with the 5800xt (or 5800x or 5700x they're all basically the same, 5800xt is the fastest by like 2% and it's often the cheapest too, the 5700 and the 5700g are a different cpu from those with some downgrades). Unless you wanted to spend a bunch of money on a new ddr5 platform and ram then the 5800xt is likely the best option for a little upgrade.
And yeah the 5060 with only 8gb might struggle a bit depending how demanding the games are. A 5070 12gb would be fine running a 650W psu, so would a radeon 9070 which is a bit better and has 16gb of vram. Those are about 50-60% faster than a 5060 so it'd be a pretty noticeable upgrade if you're held back on graphics or running into a limit from the 8gb of vram. The 5700 is also capped at pcie gen 3 so if you are running into a vram limit on a 5060 (which uses a gen 5 x8 connection) you'd be in an even worse situation. A 5800xt would have pcie gen 4 support and so do all but a few b550 models.
Radeon doesn't work well with all vr headsets though so you'd want to look into that for whichever one you're using before you decide on a gpu.

[vital sinew]

Currently using the PSVR2 but I'll be swapping down the road. I was given a Index but I have no base stations for it

[vital sinew]

I appreciate the help

[vital sinew]

Also, I got the full Model of the motherboard it's a ASRock B550M-C R2.0

[icy hull]

It's fine. The sort of thing you'd expect to see in a prebuilt.

[rare plover]

True!!

[mental hazel]

lowkey would just upgrade him to a 9070 or smth and then get him on AM5/LGA1954 whenever he has the budget for it

unless he also has money to go LGA1851 and get like an open box 265kf for $220

[warm badge]

had to use diskpart to format my SSD so my BIOS would acknowledge it

[vital sinew]

Yeah I was thinking about giving @deep spruce my current build cause he doesn't want anything special an get myself an AM5 when possible

[fickle bolt]

Is 1954 already out?

LGA 1984 wen

[mental hazel]

soon™️

end of 26 iirc

[bronze geyser]

Ok. I’ve been refining this for a bit now what do y’all think? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QYWV7w

[frigid edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7L2qph

if I may, that version of thermalright's aqua elite (the V6 instead of the V4) looks better (imo) and performs better

other than that, its a decent list

you can save a ton of money buying used ram though

https://www.ebay.com/itm/287335467792
https://www.ebay.com/itm/366415528671
https://www.ebay.com/itm/397957342899
like these

[bronze geyser]

Ok thx! I haven’t really looked into getting used parts.

[frigid edge]

as long as the seller has good ratings and a lot of ratings its legit

and in the slim case they send something broken or nothing at all its very easy to get your money back

[icy hull]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YhGvfp You can get a few deals in the combo builder. Upgrade to ssd and 2tb, only a 240mm aio but it's free, cl 30 hynix ram, nicer model of gpu and it ends up a bit cheaper.
https://www.newegg.com/tools/combo-builder/6675
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gv-n5070gaming-oc-12gd-geforce-rtx-5070-12gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814932774?Item=N82E16814932774 Nicer model than the windforce for $630. These discounts are bugged for some people, you might have to get the code, try to add it at checkout, get a denied message, remove from cart, then try to get the code again from the listing page, then put back in cart and it should work the second time to take the $70 off.
https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-tech-pulse-11348-03-20g-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814202450 Could also take an upgrade to a 9070xt for $700 and it comes with an okay quality psu.

[coarse obsidian]

helloo agains chat, I am looking for a mobo and case matx for lga1700 for my i5 122600kf

preferably used market as new is very expense

[icy hull]

Ddr4? I'd assume so since ddr5 boards are pretty cheap.

[coarse obsidian]

yah

[coarse obsidian]

and honestly need help with a case as well

[frigid edge]

Do you prefer a conventional case or a fishtank

And do you want white or black parts

And do you want the case to have preinstalled fans or do you already have fans

and will you be using an air cpu cooler or a liquid one

and how many ram sticks will you be using

[coarse obsidian]

2, air cooler, preinstalled preferably, and I dunno tbh, either or? and black parts

@ me im about to sleep have work

[frigid edge]

kk

ill ping with some part recommendations

I have hands on experience with this case and can confidently recommend it, plus a decent motherboard option https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PDs68Z

The motherboard can be cheaper, but at the cost of worse vrms and vrm cooling

Here is a cheaper motherboard, and a nice fishtank case https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QcXFzP

I also have to sleep now, ping me back if you want me to find more options @coarse obsidian

[proven swift]

Hey everyone. I’m thinking of getting a PC I got a 1500
CAD gift with the intention of using it towards a PC I’d like to stay under $2000 after taxes if possible. I found this one https://www.newegg.ca/azza-gaming-desktop-cyrus-pro-geforce-rtx5060ti-ryzen-7-9700x-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-cove-black/p/N82E16883989037

please let me know your thoughts

[icy hull]

I'd also be looking at the b760m asus ayw. Even on the used market you're not going to find a cheap z690 or z790 and that's about what a used b760 costs so might as well get a new one.
For a case is there any particular size constraint you have like needing to fit somewhere specific or just wanting a small footprint? A lot of matx cases are basically the same size as atx midtower cases, just shorter.

[icy hull]

What sort of games do you like? And what resolution monitor will you be using? Might be a good idea to aim for a more than 8gb of vram gpu. https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16883320018

[proven swift]

1440 p monitor nothing crazy. I like to play games like Forza. Skyrim, will definitely wanna play gta when it comes out etc. but I do have an Xbox series x my crypto buddy gave me 1500cad towards a pc and I already bought this one but am second guessing it https://www.staples.ca/products/3124248-en-ibuypower-gaming-pc-desktop-intel-core-i5-14400f-cpu-nvidia-rtx-5060ti-gpu-1-tb-ssd-16-gb-ram-windows-11-home

But ya everyone else is saying this one as well because of the vram

[icy hull]

I'd expect you'll be at ~medium settings at best for gta 6 with an 8gb gpu at 1440p.

[proven swift]

Yeah that’s not ideal then. But the processor on this seems much weaker no?

[icy hull]

7600 vs 14400f? The 7600 is faster for most things and for games actually.

[frigid edge]

7600 vs 9700x

the other pc we found is a 9700x and 5060ti 8gb

same other specs

[icy hull]

Well 9700x is faster than a 7600 but for games it's not going to be a big difference. Should be in the 0-10% range. The vram is really important for 1440p in modern games, especially ue5 ones.

[frigid edge]

agreed

[proven swift]

Yeah sorry I’m just super new and trying to make sense of the information I keep seeing.

But I did get the stone forge one. And apparently the processor is as good as if not better than the one in the staples pc I bought so I’m happy. Thx guys

[coarse obsidian]

looking for matx tbh or maybe smaller atx cases? I dont quite know exactly if there are dofferences in size between the two

[icy hull]

That's a pretty normal atx midtower size, then the most common two matx styles will be like the green one or the red one. What model of gpu and what model of cpu cooler do you have? And do you have any preference for how it looks?

[coarse obsidian]

I have an arc b570 and a tower fan cooler

and I dunno tbh, I would like to see inside but also dont want it to look so basic yknow?

also would prefer preinstalled fans

also I have a matx mobo

[frigid edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2qXMnQ/diypc-argb-m1-microatx-mini-tower-case-argb-m1-bk
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZBzp99/diypc-argb-g5-atx-mid-tower-case-argb-g5-bk

[frigid edge]

matx is slightly shorter

[icy hull]

I'd look at the okinos cyprus 3 (plain black/wood and argb version), the gamdias m4m and the lian li v100r mini. All of those should be $70 or less.

[frigid edge]

non pwm fans installed in that first one...

[coarse obsidian]

what is pwm?

[frigid edge]

pwm means you can control the speed

non pwm is dc and means theyll always be at 100%

[coarse obsidian]

oh, which isnt the best for lifespan yah???

[frigid edge]

If you want an extra small build then I agree with covante's second option

[icy hull]

You can control the speed on dc fans, it just uses voltage instead of a pwm signal.

[frigid edge]

and the third is good for bigger size

[icy hull]

Any modern motherboard will have the option.

[frigid edge]

ah

i guess i just had weird fans

[icy hull]

Pwm you can typically set the min speed a bit lower.

[frigid edge]

pwm is just better

[coarse obsidian]

oki

okay so, okinos is a good brand then yeah?

[frigid edge]

Yes but do look at the other options too

[coarse obsidian]

I shall

[frigid edge]

make sure you like what you pick

and I can find more if needed

[icy hull]

If you wanted the lights and glass I think it's hard to beat the v100r mini.

Case is really just about what you personally think looks good though.

As long as you have a reasonable airflow path it's not a big deal. You just don't want something where it's got fans trying to suck air through a solid piece of sheet metal or glass instead of through mesh.

[coarse obsidian]

I like the lianli and the gamdias case

[frigid edge]

both solid options

[coarse obsidian]

leaning towards the lianli I thinks

[frigid edge]

the lian li is large and elegant, the gamdias is small and sleek

[coarse obsidian]

wait but it only has the put on the right side correct?

puter

[frigid edge]

me personally I would go with that one, but pick what you want

[frigid edge]

The motherboard?

[coarse obsidian]

the actual pc orientation

[frigid edge]

yeah 99% of computer cases are built for the right side

[coarse obsidian]

[frigid edge]

theres some cases that can be on the left but theyre funky and the motherboards upside down

[coarse obsidian]

oh ew

nuuuu

[frigid edge]

agreed

[coarse obsidian]

ill figure it out thens

because my desk is against a wall on the left, so I feel like it fits better there, but I need a new desk anyway

[frigid edge]

https://www.newegg.com/lian-li-micro-atx-tower-steel-tempered-glass-cases-computer-cases-atx-form-white-v100rmix/p/2AM-000Z-000G9

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00BP-00062

The lian li is taller and roomier and the gamdias is shorter and wider

same length from front to back

[coarse obsidian]

gamdias doesnt come with multiple fans?

[frigid edge]

It comes with one light up fan in the back and two black ones in the front

and you can see the lian li's fans

[coarse obsidian]

im thinking the lianli, especially since im new to this and the room would help witht hat

should I get a new psu? (I know the answer but dont wannaaaaaaa)

I have a 500w

[coarse obsidian]

also this case is different

the one I looked at is the v100r

[frigid edge]

there is no v100r

wait now i see it

it would only pullup the non r for some reason

upon closer inspection they appear to be the exact same thing

Delete everything after the "?" when sending links

[coarse obsidian]

https://www.amazon.com/Pillarless-Mini-ITX-Motherboard-V100RMIX-Authorized/dp/B0G91PD5PS/ref=sr_1_1?

[frigid edge]

yeah perfect

[coarse obsidian]

yippee

[icy hull]

Thta's a 3rd party seller. It's 65 from amazon directly or 65 on newegg.

[frigid edge]

so yeah they seem to be the same thing

Its cheaper on newegg

the non r

[icy hull]

R at the end means it has the fans.

[frigid edge]

https://www.newegg.com/lian-li-micro-atx-tower-steel-tempered-glass-cases-computer-cases-atx-form-white-v100rmix/p/2AM-000Z-000G9

[frigid edge]

Hm newegg has weird format then

[coarse obsidian]

so use this one?

[frigid edge]

cause its the "V100" and the options are with and without fans lol

[coarse obsidian]

also also also also also also

[frigid edge]

Yeah the version with fans, 64.99

[coarse obsidian]

what about a new psu?

[icy hull]

Check the parentheses with the model name at the end of the title.

[frigid edge]

Well, do you need one?

[icy hull]

500W what model? If it's a thermalright smart white or evga w1 or something bad like that then maybe.

[frigid edge]

what is your current one?

[coarse obsidian]

thermaltake

[frigid edge]

yikes

[coarse obsidian]

oof

[frigid edge]

Yeah I recommend a better one

[coarse obsidian]

okay then

ugggg

okays

what should I be looking for

[frigid edge]

I can find one for you, the questions are whats your budget and do you want to future proof

cause you can just get the same wattage but a better model

or you can get more watts to support upgrades in the future

[icy hull]

Thermaltake is what I meant for the smart white. They have decent models too though. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014W3EM2W If it's that one it's kind of junky, the bronze ones are okay.

[frigid edge]

ah yes my first psu

[coarse obsidian]

what is the min and recommended wattage?

smart series is what it says

[frigid edge]

With your setup, if it were to never change, 500w is safe

but for future proof you can go as high as you can

[frigid edge]

Yeah its a bomb

[coarse obsidian]

i 5 12600kf, b570, 32 gigs

[frigid edge]

I had the same one and it failed under half its rated load

[coarse obsidian]

LOVE THAT

[frigid edge]

yeah we call bad psus bombs lol

It wont necessarily explode randomly

but its unreliable

[icy hull]

Is it that specific one? They have a whole lineup of 'smart' models and some of them are fine.

[frigid edge]

better to make sure the problem never happens than to wait for it to break everything in the pc

[coarse obsidian]

SPD-500AH2NCW

thats the model number

[frigid edge]

yup its the bomb one

[coarse obsidian]

plus its second hand

so I was already going to be getting a new one

HEY

I got everything minus the gpu for like 200

[icy hull]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-atx-3-1-650-w-80-plus-gold-certified-power-supply-black-sl-650g/p/N82E16817955011?item=N82E16817955011 This is pretty good.

[coarse obsidian]

not the cpu I bought that one

[frigid edge]

LOL dont worry when I first started I made the same mistake

[coarse obsidian]

okiii

[frigid edge]

A cheaper alternative if necessary, i have had great experience with multiple units https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FH6NV36R

and, if you're feeling like future proofing, heres a nice one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F3XW1J16

[coarse obsidian]

yeah no futuure proofing for me, wont be upgrading anything for a long while

[frigid edge]

gotcha

so either the asrock one or the lian li one

[coarse obsidian]

should I get a modular or non?

also I kinda need a monitor

[frigid edge]

Modular is easier to install but more expensive

[frigid edge]

I gotchu

https://www.amazon.com/KOORUI-Adaptive-Sync-Computer-Monitors-G2511X/dp/B0FMF5GX74/ref=sr_1_3

[icy hull]

I like modular better. The asrock one is more efficient and 10 year warranty isntead of 5 too.

[coarse obsidian]

ooo nice nice

1080p should be good rn yah?

[frigid edge]

1080p 240hz will pair very well with your b570 yes

and I have very positive experience with koorui's 165hz variant

In any case you really cant go wrong with a monitor as long as it has the specs

[coarse obsidian]

fair fair

is there a cheaper version of the asrock?

or a 500w one

[frigid edge]

yeah

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FH6NV36R

ive used this psu in many builds, its good

plus its a reputable brand

But its non modular

meaning all cables are attached and are not removable

[coarse obsidian]

hmm, for 15 more I think i might as well go with the modular

[frigid edge]

Solid choice

[icy hull]

The 650W was on sale. $50-55 is a normal price floor for anything decent and the steel legend is actually pretty good. You can generally only get a good off brand one like a sama g/gt that cheap.

[coarse obsidian]

yeah I see that

the only thing is the delivery

[icy hull]

Is it really long? Says by the 22nd for me.

[coarse obsidian]

everything else is coming in on thursday or friday

im just impatient

[icy hull]

The 22nd is friday.

[coarse obsidian]

then im dumb I dunno

[icy hull]

I had to check the calendar.

[coarse obsidian]

nvm I dunno what I was looking at, but I did order the case and psu seperately

about to orrrrrrder the monitor

[fickle bolt]

Chat i has idea

Because the arrow lake igpu is so good, one could make a capable build without a gpu in it

To my knowledge, itx gpus are hard to cool while still keeping the build itx-sized

So I propose a solution: itx mobi with all the usual stuff, lo-pro ram, vrms and cooler, but with a 265k, and then all that duct taped to an sff psu

[frigid edge]

It’s genius bro

[weary galleon]

Or buy a steam machine

[frigid edge]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-9403556598434283568

[urban oak]

im wondering if anybody can check this to see if its a good deal/ good specs and if I should trust it (first pc)
https://www.newegg.ca/azza-gaming-desktop-cyrus-pro-geforce-rtx5060ti-ryzen-7-9700x-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-cove-black/p/N82E16883989037?Item=N82E16883989037&RandomID=997249923111420820260518181117

[crimson zinc]

<@&525119001324683264>

[frigid edge]

here

this is the same pc as another person a couple days ago

you better not be making alts to test me

[frigid edge]

I can help

[crimson zinc]

Nah, he commented on the same Reddit post

[frigid edge]

Oh

speed_what

[frigid edge]

What games do you play, and at what resolution?

[urban oak]

I have like 0 knowledge on any of this but I would probsbly prefer 1440, im also just planning on playing like subnautica or r6

[frigid edge]

In that case I recommend this one https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16883320018

it will be better at running games at 1440p

[urban oak]

thats crazy you found that fast

thanks

[frigid edge]

no problem and if you have any questions just ping

[urban oak]

gotcha

[urban oak]

are the motherboard and GPU 1 unit in this?

[frigid edge]

Nah all standard pcs are fully modular

everything is a separate part even in standard prebuilts

usually only laptops have parts merged together

[urban oak]

ah it doesn't show the info as much as the other one so im a little confused on what some of the specs are

[frigid edge]

Basically it has a slightly worse cpu, but much better gpu, same memory and storage

The cpu downgrade is worth the gpu upgrade because this ones gpu is much more suited for running games at 1440p

the other pc would be really good at running at 1080p

[urban oak]

makes sense

its also cheaper than the last one so thats amazing

[frigid edge]

yeah lol

[rare plover]

My pc’s hdd slot is built in a way that the sata power connection faces down and has to do a sharp turn, is there a way to fix this? Cant flip the hdd cus the screw holes don’t match

[frigid edge]

Are you using a 90 degree sata cable?

If you use a straight one, it should be the same amount of curve with the HDD being either position

that is what I suggest

[rare plover]

The data one is fine. Im talking about the sata power. My cable has the connections perpendicular to the cable. And that makes it point down to the bottom of the case

[frigid edge]

yikes

i guess get a short sata power extension cable

[rare plover]

I do remember my case having holes labeled “hdd” could those be to mount hdds vertically?

[frigid edge]

I would try

[rare plover]

Aside from “cage”

Waiting for stuff to arrive tho so i can do a full rework on my pc

Cable management, dust removal and adding stuff like a sag bracket and etc

[deep spruce]

Dose anyone know how I can get AMD Radeon HD 8670D ver: 27.20.14534.1003 on the AMD Site.

[obsidian wigeon]

open your radeon menu

that string of versions is not what's shown officially, it's just for amd devs

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=r6

i did find something tho

it's on the microsoft update catalog

it's for windows 10

[rare plover]

Are these turns too sharp for sata power?

[craggy snow]

if those are sharp, all of my pcs gonna catch on fire

no. that is your answer.

[deep spruce]

Do I Download them All or just the Last one?

[obsidian wigeon]

get the one that matches the version number you want, and the windows 10 build you run

[deep spruce]

Thank you

[deep spruce]

So I have 3 Different Laptop's an I need help picking 1 to get. 1 is from Best Buy an 2 are from New Egg

1. https://www.bestbuy.com/product/msi-18-gaming-laptop-2560-x-1600-qhd--amd-ryzen-9-9955hx-2025-with-32gb-memory-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-2-tb-storage-cosmo-gray-gray/J3P7TXR2CS
2. https://www.newegg.com/msi-16-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-laptop-gpu-intel-core-ultra-7-255hx-16gb-memory-512-gb-ssd/p/N82E16834156740?Item=N82E16834156740&cm_sp=aishoppingassistant
3. https://www.newegg.com/asus-16-0-wuxga-no-32gb-memory-gray/p/1TS-001A-0BN42?Item=9SIB0GJKT05907&cm_sp=aishoppingassistant

[obsidian wigeon]

the msi vector is by far a lot faster

i would get the ryzen 9 9955hx one as it has 32gb of ram

[frigid edge]

@deep spruce

[deep spruce]

Well I just went to look at Best buy an they no longer have it. Dose New Egg have it

[icy hull]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/MSI-Vector-16-HX-AI-16-144Hz-FHD-Gaming-Laptop-Intel-Ultra-7-255HX-GeForce-RTX-5070Ti-16GB-Memory-1TBSSD-Cosmo-Gray/17971805588 Walmart has the 1tb version for $1400. You should figure out what your priorities are though. Build quality, battery, cooling/noise, performance, screen will vary a lot between models on laptops even when they have the same base specs like cpu, ram and gpu.

[deep spruce]

Wont support Walmart at all

[icy hull]

You should figure out the priorites though. Things like how much you care about scren size/resolution. Thickness. Battery life and balancing that against performance and cost.
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/asus-rog-strix-g16-16-fhd-165hz-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-8940hx-16gb-ram-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-1tb-ssd-eclipse-gray/JJGGLHJLTS Like this one is okay but it's really thick, battery life won't be great if you're doing anything intensive and the 16" 1920x1200 wouldn't be what I'd want.
But if you want something same price range with better features/quality/portability then it will likely take a downgrade on the gpu.
https://gaminglaptop.deals/
and
https://www.bestlaptop.deals/recommendations/Crazy-Deals?location=us&priceMin=799&priceMax=4149&goodFor=2
are good websites to keep an eye on.

[deep spruce]

Well Lets just say this I'm getting back in to doing Live Stream an I just want a Computer that can Let me Live Stream an Play my Game at the same time

[icy hull]

What kind of games?

[deep spruce]

Star Wars: The Old Republic, Doom, Emulators.
I do have a PS3 Emulator as well. An I forgot what Laptop was Powerfully enough to let me play it. I know it was 1 of the 2 Link that I got from Newegg

[frigid edge]

what did walmart do lol

[potent turtle]

Why does my pc shut off randomly while playing a game?

I tested the power using occt and it crashes in 5 sec

Worked for a couple months then randomly it starts shutting off randomly

[toxic gale]

do i go here for pc help

my budget is 1300-1400 and i have no idea about pcs

[potent turtle]

Send me the money I got you

[icy hull]

It's most likely power or thermals so if your gpu temps look okay you'd know where to start.

[potent turtle]

Thermals were like 50 to 65

C

CPU chipset was like 70

Under like max load tho

[icy hull]

USA? And you want what a gaming pc? Which kind of games? Something made for valorant and cs2 might have different priorities for a budget tahn something for graphically demanding single player games. Is that supposed to include a monitor and/or peripherals like keyboard/mouse/audio?

[potent turtle]

It also lets me play longer sometimes before shutting off.

[toxic gale]

usa yes i want a gaming pc the games i play the most are just really fps games like valorant siege cs2 i have everything else keyboard mouse etc.

[icy hull]

You want to look at prebuilts or building for yourself?

[toxic gale]

building myself

[icy hull]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nCDjZQ This is going heavy on the cpu, I'm assuming you plan on playing at low/competitive settings too. If you might pick up some more graphically demanding games like gta6 at some point then swapping down to a 9600x and spending more on the gpu would probably be a good idea. Something like a 9060xt 16gb or maybe an open box 4070 would let you play graphically demanding games at higher settings where an 8gb gpu would struggle or stutter.
https://www.newegg.com/tools/combo-builder/6675
https://www.newegg.com/asus-dual-rtx5060-o8g-geforce-rtx-5060-8gb-graphics-card-double-fans/p/N82E16814126807?Item=N82E16814126807

[potent turtle]

I play on a rtx 4070 ti super

Does well

Pricey tho

[toxic gale]

i have a 3060 ti 16gb would it be better to get the 5060 or stay with my current graphics card

[obsidian wigeon]

3060ti 16gb doesn't exist

it's an 8gb card only

[toxic gale]

shi my fault i was looking at the wrong thing

well still which one would be better

[obsidian wigeon]

i wouldn't get a 5060 tbh

given that you are running 3060ti

[icy hull]

If you already have a 3060ti then a 5060 would be a pretty mediocre upgrade. Do you have any other stuff to reuse or was that just a hand me down gpu?

[toxic gale]

well right now my currect pc has a asrock b450m pro4 3060 ti ryzen 7 5800xt and some corsair vengeance ram ddr4 16gb im not really sure about the power supply since my brother built my pc and most of it are his old parts

but i dont think i want to reuse any of that

except the gpu

[icy hull]

That's all pretty good still but if you want to upgrade the platform/cpu then starting over with a new everything else and just keeping the gpu is a reasonable way to do it.

[toxic gale]

only reason i want to upgrade my current pc is because my fps is really bad in games like siege and whenever i try to play games with mods like lets say minecraft its really bad and my fps stutters a lot, my pc in general always just freezes not sure if its my parts that are just really bad now or something else.

[icy hull]

Minecraft mods could be vram, depends how big of packs you're using. Stuttering in everything else you'd want to check temps before spending a bunch of money.

[deep spruce]

They are slowly getting rid of Casher's an I refused to use Self Check out.

[crimson zinc]

Weird flex

Self checkout goes faster, and has more efficiency. I always take self checkout

[deep spruce]

Not me due to the Fact its taking Jobs away from the Casher's

[crimson zinc]

They get the jobs elsewhere
The cashiers get moved to other departments
Or to monitor self-checkout

I’ve been a cashier of multiple stores in my life
The jobs don’t just “disappear” lmao
They get moved everywhere else

[still minnow]

Bros uncmaxxing

[crimson zinc]

Me or him?

[still minnow]

Replied to u

[crimson zinc]

Im 26

[still minnow]

Unc

[crimson zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-emojidie-die-ban-gif-25401953

[crimson zinc]

My wife has informed me that it means uncool

Rather than uncle

[still minnow]

What

That’s not what it means

[crimson zinc]

So it means uncle?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

that's what them kids use these days

there's also another meaning to it, it's a slang used to call someone old

[gentle pollen]

At least folks don't talk to you and guess you're age at 33-35 lmao.

I was at Chabad the other day and someone thought the kids running around were mine...

[stark berry]

So I got some parts from a friend... here's a list of what I got.
I9-9900k with gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite motherboard. 32gb (2x16gb) of Gskill trident Ddr4 3600 and another 32gb (2x16) of Gskill ripjaw Ddr4 3600

I need PSU, graphics card, cooler, and a case.

Any good deals this holiday weekend

[mental hazel]

what's your budget?

[stark berry]

i have plenty of money, but im a cheap bastard. I know the graphics card is about 700-1000 for a 5070ti.

case and cooler and psu budget around 200 - 400?

i dont know what all this stuff costs

[mental hazel]

would probably go 9070 tbh. it's like 15% slower and half the price

[stark berry]

works with intel?

sorry im newb

[mental hazel]

there might be some slightly better PSU deals hut i'm a huge fan of this model, i have four of them lol
https://a.co/d/0ddOnO4D

[mental hazel]

yah, GPU is platform agnostic

[stark berry]

oh ok

im currently using 4060ti but figured i could upgrade and pass this card down to my girl

[mental hazel]

any preference on case colour?

[stark berry]

i seen there may be 5070ti instore only at bestbuy for 700 today

i was gonna go check

case wise, just not white

my pc is dirty

lol

[mental hazel]

great deal if you can get it

otherwise i'd snag a 9070 for $550-600

[stark berry]

ok i appreciate that info

[mental hazel]

sometimes you can get an XT for $600 which is neat. same idea as the non XT 9070, just about 12% faster

[stark berry]

cooler wise, would u go fan or liquid?? i never used liquid before

[mental hazel]

i would not pay $700 for it though when 9070 non XT is $600 regularly

[stark berry]

gotcha

[mental hazel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MxJtn2

probs this is what i'd do, plus whatever GPU happens to be the best deal once you go check on the 5070 ti

[mental hazel]

i'd go liquid only because thermalright has made 360mm AIOs unbelievably cheap, and they're pretty reliable

[stark berry]

honestly almost same as the partpicker build i had setup. same case and cooler.

[mental hazel]

good stuff

[stark berry]

thermalright have a good warranty"?

[mental hazel]

i'd probably grab a three pack of some RGB fans just so it doesn't look so barren. the p12 reverse RGB fans are pretty inexpensive and work really well and are very quiet

i think i got my three pack for like $30

[mental hazel]

yah, pretty comparable with any other cooler manufacturer, bar maybe noctua. but the issue i have with noctua is even if the cooler breaks and their excellent service gets you a replacement, you coulf also have just bought two different coolers in the same price as the single noctua. and they'd probably perform better too lol

[stark berry]

sorry got timed out for using a cuss word lol

[vital sinew]

What 360mm Liquid cooler would y'all recommend for a i9 9900X? I'm going to have 2 separate PCs one for unity and more and my current for gaming/streaming

[stark berry]

the one pib just suggested is for a I9-9900k, not sure if that would work?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RD7scf/thermalright-frozen-notte-argb-7237-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-notte-360-black-argb-d1

ah

you need a cooller that will work with FCLGA2066 socket type?

[vital sinew]

looks good but I'm not wanting RGB, forgot to specify. I was also recommended artic liquid freezer but note sure how good that is

[vital sinew]

yes

[stark berry]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/cpu-coolers/cw-9060040-ww/hydro-series-h100x-high-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060040-ww

this one will work and is non rgb

[vital sinew]

That looks nice

[vital sinew]

how does this one sound? bequiet! PURE Loop 3 360mm black aio

[crimson zinc]

<@&525119001324683264>

@vital sinew @stark berry don’t be afraid to call them, they’re here for you

[vital sinew]

alright, thank you

[stark berry]

appreciate it, im just hanging out having coffee doing some research on pc parts.

the pure loop 3 seems to be very similar results for cooling under heavy load

[stark berry]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/PcBuildersCommunity/posts/4465106950439318/

i dont think your socket type works with that cooler

i found this facebook post of some dude dealing with that issue

[vital sinew]

If I have to I'll get somethin else

[vital sinew]

alright all set, I decided on the LGA1200 socket, i9 10850 with GIGABYTE B560M AORUS PRO mATX

[frigid edge]

Were you guys still needing help with anything? @vital sinew@stark berry

[vital sinew]

yeah just one more question. I'm only going to be using the build I was talking about for things like unity and blender, would 32gb of ram be ok or should I do 64

[stark berry]

if you can afford it I would get 64 of a fast speed

specially for a workstation. More is better

[stark berry]

i bought my cooler, just went with the cheap Thermalright Frozen Notte 360mm that PIB suggested. I still need to find what case I want. I like the corsair PIB suggested but still just looking at options. Also, still havnt pulled the trigger on the PSU.

Help wise, I think i got it figured out, just open to suggestions and any deals since its a holiday weekend

[frigid edge]

I second what matt said, should be fine but 64 will be better

[frigid edge]

cool cool, thermalright may seem cheap but thats what makes them good competition to other brands, the notte is a good model from them

[vital sinew]

ight I'll drop the extra for 64 then

[frigid edge]

And I'm pretty sure all modern thermalright coolers have all amd and all intel mounting (except stuff like xeon or threadripper)

[frigid edge]

I recommend buying used then

[stark berry]

ram is so expensive right now

[vital sinew]

for DDR4? wouldn't that be used anyways?

[stark berry]

ssd are too

[frigid edge]

Ah yeah then

are you in the US market?

I can try to find some good deals

[vital sinew]

Yep

[frigid edge]

Do you buy stuff from ebay?

Already found a pretty good deal https://www.ebay.com/itm/157933287285

Good speed and CL rating

[frigid edge]

Whats your full build?

So far I mean

[stark berry]

So I got some parts from a friend... here's a list of what I got.
I9-9900k with gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite motherboard. 32gb (2x16gb) of Gskill trident Ddr4 3600 and another 32gb (2x16) of Gskill ripjaw Ddr4 3600, Notte Cooler
I need PSU, graphics card, and a case.

[vital sinew]

I've only ever bought from Amazon and Newegg, haven't tried eBay

[frigid edge]

Alright I recommend it then, easy to use

[frigid edge]

Would you like me to just send some recommendations, or do you want to budget it

[vital sinew]

I've been hearing a lot of good things lately about this here https://www.newegg.com/montech-atx-850-w-80-plus-gold-certified-power-supply-silver-century-ii-850/p/N82E16817959008?Item=N82E16817959008

[stark berry]

just send away, im open to all budgets. thank you titan

[frigid edge]

Do you have storage?

And would you prefer a fishtank or standard case, with or without included fans (in case you have fans already)

[stark berry]

included is good, or i can buy some. I dont have fans currently. I do have a few SSD laying around

[stark berry]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ApAOOFih0xsFCBYEMbRzeIzaniXzy2HqkfMvd5h-2jc/edit?gid=0#gid=0 This google doc shows the montech century (1 not 2) as a low teir psu. Not sure how much it matters. I had good luck with EVGA in the past

a friend rec. this bequiet brand psu https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBXX1D17?ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_VXKFPC0EQACJ0ZVWWGW5&social_share=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_VXKFPC0EQACJ0ZVWWGW5&th=1

[frigid edge]

heard nothing but good things about it tho

[stark berry]

standard case, i dont need rgb or glass at all.

i dont mind glass or rgb, its just not a need

[frigid edge]

Yeah generally the cases all have glass and come with either argb or non argb fans for the same price

[stark berry]

for the price, maybe i should just yolo the 1050 watt one and be a test dummy

im building this new rig, cuz hell let loose vietnam is coming out and a buddy had all those parts i listed for 300 bucks

[frigid edge]

the century 1 is not the same as the century 2

I still recommend getting theirs to save some money

their 850w is $90 and 1050w is $100

[stark berry]

true

[frigid edge]

What do you think about these
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BXtLrH/phanteks-xt-pro-ultra-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-xt523p1-dbk01

wait two arent standard hol up

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rvBzK8/phanteks-nv5-mkii-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-nv523tg_dbk02

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yYdMnQ/montech-xr-wood-atx-mid-tower-case-xr-wood-b

Hard to find good looking ones under 100 dollars nowadays dang

[stark berry]

this one was suggested today and i kinda dig it. i currently use corsair and no complaints https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jthv6h/corsair-3500x-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011276-ww

i think the 360mm cooler will fit

just gotta make sure the z390 mobo will

and ill need to grab some cheap fans

[frigid edge]

Oh yeah the 3500x is a great one too, yes the mobo will fit

[stark berry]

yea i think i might just grab that one

[frigid edge]

Its a fishtank not a standard tho but your choice lol

[stark berry]

whats standard vs not??

fish tank juust means lots of glass?

[frigid edge]

Oh ok so standard is when the main intake fans are in the front with like mesh

[stark berry]

oh i got u

[frigid edge]

Fish tank has the intake on the side with the front being also glass

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gBzp99/lian-li-v100r-atx-mid-tower-case-v100rx Fishtank

Standard https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nBFCmG/phanteks-eclipse-g370a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec370a_dbk01

me personally I'm trying to get a case that has fans on both the front and side lol but thats overkill usually

[frigid edge]

people prefer fishtank cause they wanna see all their components better

people prefer standard cause they don't

Or if their pc is up against a wall

[stark berry]

oh and did more research. ima grab that montech psu in 1050w.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=931697732#gid=931697732

[frigid edge]

goated

[stark berry]

gotta A rating on this list

at the bottom it says full list then ctrl+F montechy

sizing for psu is standard?

like i dont need to check psu measurements?

for that corsair case

[frigid edge]

By the way corsair has weird naming schemes with their cases where they will have multiple models called the 3500x but one could be just 3500x or one could be called 3500x LX-R or 3500x RS-R

just get the 3500x

[frigid edge]

yes lol

[stark berry]

havnt bought a psu in years

[frigid edge]

There IS a type of smaller psu for mini itx builds but thats for mini itx builds

[stark berry]

since the ol i5 2400

[frigid edge]

dang

[stark berry]

my current machine is a i7 8700 and my girl uses a 8800

[frigid edge]

8800?

an 8700?

[earnest olive]

i7-8809g

[stark berry]

i7-8700 cpu

[earnest olive]

[frigid edge]

Never heard of an 8800 it seems there is a really old amd fx cpu with that number

[earnest olive]

there is

AMD FX-8800P

[frigid edge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wait-a-minute-wait-what-6

Intel cpu with radeon graphics

[stark berry]

maybe im trippin on her pc spec

[frigid edge]

thats insane

[earnest olive]

and hbm on package

[frigid edge]

Anyways so this is what u have so far
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jthv6h/corsair-3500x-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011276-ww
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yJkqqs/montech-century-ii-1050-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-ii-1050w

now you need a gpu

How much do you want to spend on a gpu cause theres plenty you could choose that would pair well with a 9900k, also what resolution will you be playing at?

[stark berry]

Gpu i currently have a 4060Ti i can use but i was gonna hit bestbuy today to see if ya boy can get lucky. https://www.reddit.com/r/gpu/comments/1tkta65/pny_5070_ti_for_699_at_bestbuy/

[frigid edge]

lol

that would be an insane upgrade

[frigid edge]

If you do go and find a great deal like that then def buy that

if not then you can ping me for other options

[stark berry]

im gonna try, i also have a buddy out of town that said he will check and ship if they got em

[frigid edge]

unless youd like me to find some anyway

[frigid edge]

W friend

[stark berry]

another user here said if i cant get it look for a 9070 for around 550-600

[frigid edge]

Yeah thats also a great option

theres a couple models right at 600 brand new rn

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mL9nTW/powercolor-reaper-radeon-rx-9070-16-gb-video-card-rx9070-16g-a
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KXkqqs/asrock-challenger-radeon-rx-9070-16-gb-video-card-rx9070-cl-16g

A 9070xt would be much closer to the perf of a 5070ti if you got the cash tho

[stark berry]

those around 700??

for the xt

[frigid edge]

Yup right at as well
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8ZJBD3/powercolor-reaper-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx9070xt-16g-a
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q8sMnQ/asrock-challenger-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx9070xt-cl-16g
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/T7RnTW/xfx-swift-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-97tswf3b9
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/389nTW/xfx-quicksilver-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-97tqickb9

[vital sinew]

Says currently unavailable but I've been eyeing this to move my current build into https://a.co/d/0d44xwJU

[stark berry]

im gonna check a benchmark comparasion to the current card im using

MSI 4060ti

[frigid edge]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/198366469767
https://www.ebay.com/itm/198366469771

It exists on ebay if ur willing to pay that much

[frigid edge]

those are never accurate

[vital sinew]

not bad, thank you

[frigid edge]

and shouldn't be heavily relied upon

what resolution will you be playing at?

[frigid edge]

By the way the ram listing said it sold but it got relisted so it looks like it’s available again, i suggest pouncing on this https://ebay.us/m/yIr9CB

actually wait it might be sus

[stark berry]

why they only show 2 16gb sticjs

lol

[frigid edge]

yeah thats what I just noticed

this dude...

[vital sinew]

yeah, looks to risky

[frigid edge]

Here, its not the fastest but it won't be horrible
https://www.ebay.com/itm/406937360161

buttt

new ahh seller

Are you fine with getting ugly ram

actually wait ill just say this

[earnest olive]

man it used to be so simple

X meant don't buy

D meant buy

4000X vs 4000D airflow

[frigid edge]

ddr4 with more typical speeds look to be around 300 dollars, and slower ram with no heatspreader is around 200

[earnest olive]

[frigid edge]

lol

WHY are there so many no-review sellers selling ram rn

[earnest olive]

that's that chinese ram flooding the market bro

zao shang hao zhong guo

https://tenor.com/view/bubu-dudu-china-flag-flag-of-china-people's-republic-of-china-gif-10986363374314848673

[frigid edge]

So far if youre just looking for capacity and an ok speed then i found this, good seller https://www.ebay.com/itm/318004110241

[frigid edge]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-social-credit-score-credit-score-score-china-gif-23125701

[earnest olive]

I wonder what that ram can oc to

[frigid edge]

you can get heatspreaders but the question is.. is it necessary.. https://www.amazon.com/TUMMASTER-Compatible-Sync（Memory-Included）-RH-GY-06-B2/dp/B0FL6PSND4/ref=sr_1_2

[earnest olive]

no

[frigid edge]

agreed

[earnest olive]

if you really wanna spend money on cooling the ram just put a fan on it

[frigid edge]

only if you really want the rgb 🙏🏻

[earnest olive]

rgb heatspreaders hurt more than they help

[earnest olive]

rgb ram fan

more rgb and more cooling

there's my rgb ram fan

[stark berry]

https://computers.woot.com/offers/corsair-frame-4500x-rs-reverse-fan-argb-mid-tower-5

OR

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jthv6h/corsair-3500x-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011276-ww

curved glass or normal

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/cases/corsair-3500x-vs-frame-4500x-whats-the-difference/ found this if anyone else is interested

[frigid edge]

your choice man

its about looks

curved means its one large piece of glass instead of two

also thats a 3500x and 4500x, one is slightly larger

[stark berry]

you mentioned the letters on the corsair models

whats the Rs

nvm found an explination here https://www.reddit.com/r/Corsair/comments/1qj7njg/corsair_3500x_rsr_argb_vs_corsair_3500x_argb/

sorry i have a bad habit of asking before searching

https://a.co/d/02Y5WFTH do you use a fan controller?

i think ill have 3 fans that come with the case. 1 more 120mm in the back. and the 3 fans for the water cooler.

[frigid edge]

no worries

[frigid edge]

the motherboard should have enough ports

you only need two fan ports as long as all fans daisy chain (one for cpu fans and one for case fans)

unless you want them all at the same speed like me

and you need one 3 pin argb port for the lights

it looks like your mobo has three fan headers and one argb

maybe more i just looked up a picture

[stark berry]

ok thank you

so just daisy chain them is the easiest way

[frigid edge]

Yeah

[stark berry]

thats what ill do

[autumn wolf]

Any recommendations on a 1tb nvme that I’m going to be using for just games?
(Ping me, I’m at work and will view later, ty)

[frigid edge]

cheapest gen 4 you can find on pcpp

[icy hull]

For a games drive sort by cheap is pretty reasonable strategy. That would currently be an sp ud90. I think I'd pay the extra two dollars for a lexar nq780 though.

[frigid edge]

@autumn wolf

[autumn wolf]

2tb msi spatium m482 grayed out

big sadge

[autumn wolf]

some of these prices are

think ill just wait for a good/decent deal and stick with the other storage i have rn

[icy hull]

Undertandable, $150 for a 1tb doesn't feel very good.

[stoic island]

Yea uh that hasn't been restocked in like a year so it has the pre-crisis price

[crimson zinc]

Just use HDD ez

I still use em for most my games

[stark berry]

So, taking my old pc apart and making a frankenstein for my girl. Its got a i7 8700 and z370 pro4 mobo

gonna go with this case

https://a.co/d/09RW68IA

any rec for a cheap cpu fan that looks pretty and works

either that or buy a 2nd frozen nottee lololl

gpu is old af 1060 6gig

she just youtubes anyways

also, gonna see if i can find white cords for gpu etc

[crimson zinc]

Anything by thermalright

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Wfn9TW/thermalright-assassin-x-refined-se-rgb-v2-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120r-se-v2-d6

[stark berry]

damn too bad i cant find this cooler cheap https://a.co/d/0fHnUp2z

would match her case

[stoic island]

There's basically always a thermalright option that's cheap

[stark berry]

yup just gonna go that route

[frigid edge]

dont recommend this one

they have one for 1 more dollar

and its got 5 heatpipes instead of 4 and an argb fan instead of frgb

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9Gstt6/thermalright-assassin-king-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ak120-se-argb-d6

[stark berry]

any white cable covers or something

psu is non modular

i think i can just wrap the cables to make them look white and pretty

ill find some white or blue sata cables too

[icy hull]

Or use extensions.

Could probably find powder blue ones to match the case too.

[stark berry]

yea that might be easier

i dont know what size expandable pet loom

[warm badge]

sold the build for 900 bucks

[wet sable]

Heyooo I'm a little new to PC part picking and I was trying to find something similar to this: https://www.newegg.ca/yeyian-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5060-intel-core-i7-14700f-32gb-ddr5-1tb-pcie-ssd-ypi-va47f0c-5601n/p/N82E16883630100?Item=N82E16883630100&cm_sp=product-_-from-price-options

I plan to use it for gaming and maybe a bit of ai development stuff (doesn't have to be too fancy, but I'm hoping not to upgrade for at least like 5+ years), if there's anything I should be aware of or other products I should consider instead that would be appreciated 😄

[crimson zinc]

<@&525119001324683264>

[frigid edge]

-# busy

[wet sable]

no rush folks i appreciate the help 🙂

[icy hull]

Are you only looking at prebuilts or are you interested in putting one together yourself?

[wet sable]

i could build one myself but it seems to be a lot more expensive when i tried picking similar parts

im hoping like under 2000 cad

[icy hull]

Were you comparing against one that was currently in stock or that one? A relatively high end cpu, board and 2x16gb ddr5 is going to be like $1000+ on its own now. Prices back around September were a lot more reasonable if something never got restocked. Gpus were a bit cheaper, ram and ssds have gone up like 3-4x in taht period which adds several hundred dollars over what things would have cost a year ago.

[wet sable]

i was comparing against the i7 one

i also saw the Acer Nitro N60-640-EB23 Gaming PC which is in stock at best buy but its like maybe 50 bucks more expensive

I think anything thats like

• i7 - 14700
• 32gb ram (I'm thinking maybe ddr5 to future proof it?)
• rtx 5060
• hopefully a 1tb ssd

would be good enough for me

Also yeah in september the prices looked a lot more reasonable but at the time I didn't need a new pc LOL