building-and-recc-chat

[wide sparrow]

Now I need a good ITX WITH TWO M.2

[fallen sphinx]

ughhh

you dont know if the lf3 pro 280mm has the changed cold plate do you jp

[wide sparrow]

Nope

[fallen sphinx]

it didnt

ok good

https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b650i-edge-wifi-mini-itx-motherboard-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813144556?item=N82E16813144556&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASUBID=&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FDkFbt6%2Fmsi-mpg-b650i-edge-wifi-mini-itx-am5-motherboard-mpg-b650i-edge-wifi&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-f4hK9mXKuB8iDhsPEjCzqQ 2 ssds slots

[fallen sphinx]

are you fine with asrock boards

[wide sparrow]

Assrock? What else is there lmao

I mean the reviews are good

[fallen sphinx]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DRTVR12D?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 a b850 one for a bit less

[icy hull]

B650e strix i is $210 with -$20 on combo builder on newegg.

[wide sparrow]

Hmmm

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tdYNkf imo id do this

[wide sparrow]

Looks good. Mind if you have time to make a AM4 mobo option?

[fallen sphinx]

at least on pcpp an am4 mobo is the same cost as an am5 one

and you prolly wont go used for this?

[wide sparrow]

New

Pc components are soo sensitive

[fallen sphinx]

well obv skipping any a520

and theres this one 110$ b550 one but no heatsinks...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089FWWN62?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1 youd be looking at this

and the 2nd ssd slot is on the back for that one...

2nd slot being pcie 3 asw

[wide sparrow]

Hm

Ddr5 prices….unbelievable

[fallen sphinx]

ram prices*

ddr4 is struggling too

[wide sparrow]

Tsk

[fallen sphinx]

at least we have this

https://tenor.com/view/sora-ai-ai-dog-sora-ai-dog-dog-ai-ai-gif-1966252135688010824

[wide sparrow]

Oh my god she’s dead

[fallen sphinx]

[wide sparrow]

Looks alright. Thanks for your help

[fallen sphinx]

yeah

if you can squeeze out the money for am5 itd be worth it, if not then

[wide sparrow]

Mind if you make a list real quick?

[fallen sphinx]

am4 will still work

[fallen sphinx]

uhh

quickly yes i gotta go shower and sleep

[wide sparrow]

I don’t have access to my pc rn to make it quickly

[fallen sphinx]

alr yeah i can

[wide sparrow]

Also I’m in bed

[fallen sphinx]

ask the question jp

jp turn off your mic jp

[wide sparrow]

What

👀

[fallen sphinx]

its a joke

whats the list you want me to make

[wide sparrow]

Just with that AM4 mobo

I can always edit it later

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9fcHv4

[wide sparrow]

I appreciate you

[snow dragon]

That cooler master is known for really bad coil whine

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ld4yh3

[fallen sphinx]

1 that case is too big
2 you didn’t put a psu or anything else in

[icy crater]

Good morning I had an airflow question

My plan is to do something like this but 3 120mm intake instead on the bottom

My cpu cooler is the mag corefrozr aa13 and I think the fan will be blowing towards the left at the tower instead

Is this fine for airflow?

[wide sparrow]

The AIO?

[frigid edge]

Fine, sure, but better and proper to intake through the front and bottom and exhaust the back and top

[snow dragon]

Because it can take atx

[snow dragon]

Yes, and another way to go about it would be to flip that rear fan to exhaust and then that top right fan to intake

Rear intake is a valid setup in sff traditional layout cases too

[gritty ruin]

Is this specific cable needed on my pcie 4 motherboard? B550 Msi mpg Gaming plus

Its a 5.1 pcie cable

12V

[snow dragon]

That’s for nvidia cards

[gritty ruin]

So i do need it then? I have an msi ventus 2x 3060 ti

[snow dragon]

Well, most nvidia cards

For that one, no

[gritty ruin]

Ok then

Thx

[snow dragon]

[gritty ruin]

Ill just connect the regular one then

[snow dragon]

Yos

[edgy flame]

Someone optimize this for me, i tried to do the most budget possible using only reliable and new parts, idc about RGB but i still wan't color scheme to be singular (don't mix random colored parts) and it's for gaming at 1080p https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/7GPz8Q

[icy crater]

Ah yeah I heard about that one, but I bought the top, rear, and bottom fans from China and arent able to change it 😭

[snow dragon]

What

No I mean just rotate the fans if you want to

No need to get new ones

[icy crater]

So it's ok to position the cpu cooler fan to blow towards the left?

[edgy flame]

Any side is good as long as it follows an air flow path

[icy crater]

Yeah I understand, but they are jonsbo led reverse and forward fans. I think it might mess up the leds

[stoic island]

there shouldn't be anything that happens to the leds if you just flip the fan, at worst it looks a little worse from the outside

[icy crater]

🫡

[edgy flame]

This yo- bro that's just wrong as hell lemme correct that rq

[icy crater]

It would be like this with the original fan position I think

[snow dragon]

I assume that yellow arrow is from the graphics card

[icy crater]

Flipping the fan would change the yellow

The yellow is the cpu cooler fan

[snow dragon]

Have the yellow the other way

[icy crater]

So that would be best?

[stoic island]

double check if you have your PSU intake towards the inside or outside

[snow dragon]

Ideally it would be facing outside

[icy crater]

Does that mean psu fan towards the back?

[edgy flame]

Yeah turn it 'roundd

[stoic island]

yes?

[edgy flame]

This is why i hate itx builds

[stoic island]

best case scenario you'd want your PSU getting fresh air not hot air from both the CPU and GPU

it's not like it's going to fail but generally you're going to lose efficiency with higher temperature

[icy crater]

Is the psu fan side generally an intake fan?

[edgy flame]

Idk tbf

[icy crater]

Oh yeah I think I was originally thinking of going to the way of the picture to avoid all the air pointing towards the psu

[edgy flame]

Dude i feel left behind cuz i build PCS for friends family and all for free and i ain't even got a pc (can't get a job i'm 15)

[icy crater]

Do you mean the rear being exhaust fan?

[icy crater]

You should charge a little bit and save up gradually for a pc

[edgy flame]

Nah i don't want to make friends pay cuz they already paid for the parts and all 💔

[snow dragon]

No, we are saying the power supply fan facing the front of the case, to pull in air from outside

[icy crater]

Ohh ok understood 🫡

But so the yellow one should 100% be flipped?

[icy crater]

Yeah that's fair, that's really nice of you

Experience is good tho, you will be a pro when building your own

[edgy flame]

Fr but now i'm stuck with a laptop that smh... Runs cs2 (idk how but aight)

[icy crater]

💪

[edgy flame]

I'm a mechanic student hehe

[icy crater]

Oo like mechanics for cars?

[edgy flame]

Yuh

But next year i have to choose lorries cars or bikes

Idk between cars or bikes but i prefer cars

It's more complex

[icy crater]

Cars is fun I think, what is lorries?

[snow dragon]

Two options

[icy crater]

Thank you cloudd

[snow dragon]

Right one is the config you have rn

Idk which would be better

[edgy flame]

🗣️🔥🔥🔥this is real art and peak airflow

[snow dragon]

Probably pretty close to each other

[icy crater]

I really wanted to go with left one

[edgy flame]

Anyone wanna see my setup? 😀

[snow dragon]

Left might have slightly cooler gpu temps because of the heat getting exhausted quicker probably, with the cpu getting barely hotter, and vice versa

[icy crater]

But I got a 240mm forward fan from jonsbo that I cant break apart

[snow dragon]

[icy crater]

Yeah 😭 , my main worry is all the hot air hitting my gpu and ram from the gpu

[snow dragon]

Oh 2 120s in one frame

[edgy flame]

This my build btw

[snow dragon]

I wouldn't worry about ram

[icy crater]

Yeahh I impulsely got it from china because of asthetics

Holy I cant spell

[snow dragon]

Especially because you won't be overclocking it

[icy crater]

🫡

[edgy flame]

Ima go bed guys it's 10pm

[snow dragon]

alr peace

[icy crater]

Ngl building my first pc is so stressful, I realized there is so many small details in it

[edgy flame]

https://tenor.com/view/beggar-mendiant-emoji-meme-gif-14766354842854086359

[icy crater]

Goodnight turbo, send your build tomorrow

[edgy flame]

@icy crater it's right there

[icy crater]

Oh wait is the wooden table

[edgy flame]

Peace everyone

[icy crater]

😭

Goodnight

[icy crater]

I bought the ones in this video

https://youtube.com/shorts/pGOeQXKddrQ?si=s-ZO4rulUb6TiNZu

[snow dragon]

Ah

Ok then

[icy crater]

It's kinda silly on my part, i won't even be able to see all of the side 😭

[snow dragon]

I guess your best option is the right config then

[icy crater]

Cause I wont even be using an aio and I just saw the sides kind of cover it

Alright ill try finish building it later today, would you still be able to help me with dual booting after I finish?

[snow dragon]

Yeah just let me know

[fallen sphinx]

If you look on the website, his gpu is too big to use an AIO with a Matx/atx mobo, and if he gets itx he can use a 280mm and he has a 9800x3d soooo

But yes it can fix atx mobo, it won’t work out super well for him

[snow dragon]

I meant psu

Z20 can take an atx psu

So yes it is bigger but he saves more

Wait I thought jp has a 5800x3d

[fallen sphinx]

That’s a bit big of a case…

I think the meshify may take atx psu with itx mobo

omg it totally can

@wide sparrow i did a stupid

[wide sparrow]

[fallen sphinx]

reuse your current psu

unless its over 170mm but i doubt that

[wide sparrow]

my full ATX psu works??

[fallen sphinx]

yessir

[wide sparrow]

oh great!

[fallen sphinx]

what psu do you have

[wide sparrow]

RM 850X

from corsair

[fallen sphinx]

also i forgot to mention this but i think youll be fine for 2.5" ssds

[wide sparrow]

amazing. thx

[fallen sphinx]

alr your psu is fine

uhhhh

you can put a slim fan on the top if you wanna

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YCbTwP/arctic-p12-slim-pwm-pst-411-cfm-120-mm-fan-acfan00187a id recommend this

man this is making me wanna downsize my build ;(\

[wide sparrow]

actually.....seems like the wires would get in in the way with an ATX PSU

[fallen sphinx]

wdym

its totally possible

OH i just realized that may stop you from having drives...

[fallen sphinx]

that didnt stop this guy

[wide sparrow]

hhmmm

[fallen sphinx]

also thats like a super similar psu to yours

[wide sparrow]

it is

the wires are a mess lol

[fallen sphinx]

hm

are you familiar with building with super limited space

and i mean SUPER limited

if not, get a new psu, if you are, you save a good amount of money

[wide sparrow]

nope. but i think i can manage. ive build a micro ATX build once

[fallen sphinx]

hmmmmm

go for it

[wide sparrow]

is this an INTEL build?

[fallen sphinx]

idk

4 years ago

[gentle pollen]

@wide sparrow you're looking into the Meshroom S V2 as well?

If you get the Fan Extender and Feet add-ons you can use a 353mm GPU in the back and a 360mm or taller AIO/rad so long as it's 120mm wide.

The fan extender has no roof so you can put any length of 120mm wide rad.

[wide sparrow]

perhaps. is there any similar cases that you know that look beter?

[gentle pollen]

That fit an ATX PSU?

Bigger than the Meshroom but the Qube cases may be worth considering.

[fallen sphinx]

he wants full compact

so idk if thats a good idea

also a 280mm rad default is just about as big as a 360mm rad, and will funtion the same

[weary galleon]

Full compact?

[fallen sphinx]

he said to travel easier

without many compromises

[weary galleon]

Like small matx? Itx with atx psu? Full itx?

[fallen sphinx]

i gave him an itx case with atx support for stuff

and itll work well

[gentle pollen]

Meshroom S V1/V2 is very modular.

[gentle pollen]

Issue is that it's a 280rad with slim fans and one that gets basically half of its air obstructed if an ATX PSU is being used

Vs getting the External Fan Bracket and using a 360 AIO with push or push/pull without air obstruction.

https://ssupd.co/products/accessories-exterior-fan-bracket?variant=42374100320440

@wide sparrow for size reference, the Meshroom S V2 with feet and external bracket is small enough to be brought as a Carry-On on United and a few other airlines.

You won't be able to use a lot of padding or a large case doing so but it also won't be tossed like a football since you are transporting it yourself.

Be warned though, this case with the riser and attachments can get pricey

[fallen sphinx]

are you sure its slim fans?

it says 63mm max for rad + fans, the lf3 pro i suggested with normal fans is still that 63mm

[wide sparrow]

oh great

[wide sparrow]

only one you know of?

[fallen sphinx]

but... im still not sure why? the config i got for him lets him have itx mobo, his current atx psu, and the 280mm rad with regular fans

[wide sparrow]

hmm

[fallen sphinx]

and also a slim fan at the top if you can cable manage with that

[wide sparrow]

good thing i sell all my old stuff

[gentle pollen]

Certain. 63mm is a SFX PSU and assuming the GPU is in rear position.

I will be getting the case as well in the coming months.

[gentle pollen]

Lian Li Dan A3, and Phanteks has a case I forget the name of. Both require SFX psu and either a ITX or M-ATX board.

[wide sparrow]

hm

[gentle pollen]

SSUPD Meshroom S is the most modular and smallest case on the market that can fit a 4 slot gpu, ATX board, and a 360mm rad if you use an SFX psu and case addons.

@wide sparrow I looked into a lot of cases because I fly a lot as you may have noticed.

[wide sparrow]

oh ik

[wide sparrow]

sigh.....I dont like the looks all that much, but for brazil, fine

[gentle pollen]

can get a glass front

[wide sparrow]

[gentle pollen]

ebay has a lot of mods as well

[wide sparrow]

ok

@fallen sphinx well thats not good. all these ITX MOBOs only have 2 DIMM slots........I currently have 4*8 DDR4

[gentle pollen]

@wide sparrow you know you want to be a Meshroom S simp and use an ATX board

[wide sparrow]

hm...maybe

[wide sparrow]

not a good idea. some headers will might not be accessible with the cover on

[wide sparrow]

you know what...its possible

[snow dragon]

https://a.co/d/8w1CokG

another option

[gentle pollen]

What headers?

[wide sparrow]

the ones on the right side. but it seems it will work with what I have

[snow dragon]

a3 takes atx psu

[gentle pollen]

Sorta, it limits the options A LOT.

His 5080 will in no way fit if he uses an ATX psu.

Well maybe if he sanded his cooler.

[wide sparrow]

RIP. going to have to sell all my fans

[gentle pollen]

why?

I guess I should've asked. How compact do you need this?

[wide sparrow]

no space. I could maybe use two of my 120s for the AIO

[snow dragon]

Not really, you can mount it vertically and have it high up

[gentle pollen]

That's if you don't get the feet and fan bracket.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SSUPD/comments/1acy1mx/meshroom_s_atx_build_with_360_aio/

Here is a extreme example of how much you can pack in.

with the feet and bracket addon.

[gentle pollen]

the rear bracket can be moved to the front.

[wide sparrow]

EW

LOL

[wide sparrow]

i see

[snow dragon]

Yeah kinda fugly lmao

Is it even sff anymore with all of that

[gentle pollen]

Still technically SFF, with attachments it's small enough to be a carry-on.

Just don't use a large case for it.

[gentle pollen]

"Hideously functional" but my point is that the brackets are very modular and you can cram a lot in there.

[wide sparrow]

oh no. ATX config messed with thermals

guess this is it if i cant get a 9800x3d bundle

[snow dragon]

Oh I see now

The a3 doesn't let you put an atx psu way at the top

So atx, only if you compromise on gpu length, or with a lian li edge psu

[gentle pollen]

back

my pc froze

[gentle pollen]

Don't

@wide sparrow you don't need to go ITX if you get the fan bracket.

[snow dragon]

Also that board is pretty expensive

[gentle pollen]

For itx it's not so bad.

[snow dragon]

The asrock b550m itx is $110

[wide sparrow]

mmmmmm

[gentle pollen]

Feet, No Bracket

[wide sparrow]

were is this bracket?

holy low resolution

[gentle pollen]

Feet with Bracket

[wide sparrow]

ah

[gentle pollen]

The bracket fits any size rad so long as it's 120mm wide and within 72mm deep.

Look up SSUPD External Fan Bracket

[snow dragon]

At that point I would just get the jonsbo z20 because it will be much cheaper and barely be larger

[fallen sphinx]

not at all

[gentle pollen]

@wide sparrow https://www.amazon.com/SSUPD-Meshroom-Exterial-360-Bracket/dp/B0CC98D51Q/ref=sr_1_1?

$38

[fallen sphinx]

that probably adds what, only a few liters?

[wide sparrow]

not bad.....

[snow dragon]

z20 is ~20l

[fallen sphinx]

that would be a good option, another good option would be look for used ram

[gentle pollen]

Keeps it within Carry-On limit for United and Alaska Air so it's very compact still.

[fallen sphinx]

jonsplus z20?

[gentle pollen]

All while keeping support for full size parts.

[snow dragon]

Yeah

[gentle pollen]

@wide sparrow if your GPU is within ~330mm you can ignore buying the feet.

[snow dragon]

For whatever reason pcpp says 25l but that is not true

[wide sparrow]

its only 304mm

[gentle pollen]

Z20 size does not include the feet length if I recall correctly.

[fallen sphinx]

i dont think that case will work well with what jp wants

[gentle pollen]

Just get the case, riser, and fan bracket then say hello to the world of SFF with full size parts (except PSU).

[wide sparrow]

i mean....it adds a liitle

[fallen sphinx]

no the uh z20

its very meh

[snow dragon]

He wouldn't have to buy a new psu or ram

[gentle pollen]

image of what the typical joe can expect @wide sparrow

[wide sparrow]

hmm

[fallen sphinx]

yes he will

[wide sparrow]

that extra chunk

[fallen sphinx]

his current psu is way too big for his 5080 in that case

[wide sparrow]

the ATX is going. need s SFX

[fallen sphinx]

im going sfx once i go to college

[gentle pollen]

This way you keep all your current parts like MOBO, RAM, GPU, etc and only need to swap the PSU.

No need to downsize the board or buy denser ram modules.

And using the Redditor's trick you can use the fan brackets in the rear up front to mount fans to cool the ram.

[fallen sphinx]

honestly yeah if you dont wanna upgrade cpu, esp rn i wouldnt, thats def the best option

do you alr have an aio jp?

[snow dragon]

What is the psu length

[fallen sphinx]

16cm i believe

yes

also the ssupd is better either way

[fallen sphinx]

@wide sparrow

[snow dragon]

Damn bruh

No z20 then

[fallen sphinx]

the meshify is smaller, better rads and better overall cooling anyway

[wide sparrow]

no

NH-D15

[fallen sphinx]

isnt that chonk

[wide sparrow]

yes

chonk

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lfm3zP alr that should be goog

[gentle pollen]

Plus @wide sparrow we get to be SSUPD brothers soon then xD.

[frigid edge]

https://tenor.com/view/slippy-i-saw-what-you-deleted-slippydesnake-skyler-gif-10721741480770112366

[gentle pollen]

A bunch of gibberish of me talking about using the before mentioned Redditor's trick of moving the fan brackets in the Case's rear to the front for mounting fans to cool the ram. @frigid edge

[frigid edge]

I know lol

I still see it... TrollFace

[gentle pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-tech-tips-reaction-personal-hurt-feelings-hurt-gif-27571451

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-alert-gif-19367699

[frigid edge]

https://tenor.com/view/why-would-you-do-that-arms-up-linus-tech-tips-linus-ltt-gif-25394613

[gentle pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confuse-confusion-im-confused-im-so-confused-gif-26555666

[frigid edge]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-ltt-linus-tech-tips-gif-7711731185338811151

[gentle pollen]

Lmao probably enough Linus memes for chat today

[frigid edge]

[fallen sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448723655516487962/1456882023254724792/togif.gif

[frigid edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1328580703998447738/1359858686163554314/togif.gif

[fallen sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/sora-ai-ai-dog-sora-ai-dog-dog-ai-ai-gif-1966252135688010824

[frigid edge]

https://tenor.com/view/carterpcs-bear-ring-bell-ai-gif-16354866087644317075

[fallen sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1303743230247960682/1304599050443821056/attachment.gif

[frigid edge]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-mimi-sentry-stealing-your-meme-gif-1772545916898514083

[wide sparrow]

ok. doing this. though temps will be a bit toasty

that external fan bracket is........idk

[fallen sphinx]

only other way tbh is to get am5 upgrade

[wide sparrow]

seems it might not be possible

[fallen sphinx]

yeah ram is pricy

[wide sparrow]

the bundles are sold out....for now

[fallen sphinx]

honestly

those would be a downgrade

if you mean the 16gb bundles

[wide sparrow]

no...nvm

[fallen sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-reaction-flight-reacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-gif-14526489174047821058

[wide sparrow]

i could sell all my AM4 stuff for $600

[fallen sphinx]

get the 7800x3d bundle

[wide sparrow]

why?

🤔

[fallen sphinx]

100$ cheaper

[wide sparrow]

not much of diff i would guess

eh....

[fallen sphinx]

jp

you do know the differnce in them right

8% in 1080p

i dont think you play in 1080p...

[wide sparrow]

1440p

so it should be even smaller

[fallen sphinx]

video only has 1080p but you get the diff

[wide sparrow]

i think....ill stick to what I have

[fallen sphinx]

prolly 5% diff

[fallen sphinx]

yeah, i mean it would be a sizeable upgrade if you do wanna sell the old stuff

[wide sparrow]

hm

[fallen sphinx]

AND you can (if you get good manager) trade out the mobo for a itx one so you can go super small

id say this one

[wide sparrow]

hhm

I'll stick with my 5800xd

[fallen sphinx]

fairs

if you ever wanna upgrade then id go for this

[gentle pollen]

How so? GPU exhausts air in it's own chamber and the AIO is isolated from the GPU with fresh air for days.

[wide sparrow]

sorry i might not do it with the bracket

[gentle pollen]

No need to apologize.

[wide sparrow]

but keep everything else at the cost of a little more heat

this case will fit in my carry-on. I did the measurements

[snow dragon]

That is a great price

[fallen sphinx]

youd need a new psu, and an air cooler

which will be SUPER toasty

[gentle pollen]

@wide sparrow if you get a 280mm aio and SFX psu the temps should be fine.

Not ideal but fine.

[fallen sphinx]

doesnt he have an atx mobo rn?

[gentle pollen]

Oh f I forgot

Yeah he'd need to go air then

[wide sparrow]

I think it can only fit a 240 in the back if i go SFX with ATX based off one video

[fallen sphinx]

yeah... idk man imo id try to sell your old stuff

[fallen sphinx]

JP your gpu is too big for that

124mm max

[gentle pollen]

Hmmm I have an idea.

Move the bracket to the front of the case.

And have it setup as exhaust.

[wide sparrow]

im tired

[rustic blaze]

Can this channel be used to ask for help regarding setting up a new motherboard, cpu, etc.?

[fallen sphinx]

id go the selling old stuff for 600$, then get the mc bundle and ask manager to swap out for itx

[gentle pollen]

@fallen sphinx @wide sparrow https://www.reddit.com/r/SSUPD/comments/1acy1mx/meshroom_s_atx_build_with_360_aio/like

He should be able to use a 280mm rad if he does what this guy did for the ram and moves the PSU to the back or side.

[gentle pollen]

Yes.

[fallen sphinx]

isnt his gpu way too big for that

[gentle pollen]

Did you look at the images? the fan bracket in the back can be moved to the front of the case

[rustic blaze]

Okay ty, cause I do need some help for a friend who's installing his new MB n such

[fallen sphinx]

also that looks... iffy at best

[gentle pollen]

So the rad would be mounted in front and parallel to the ram.

[fallen sphinx]

also he said hes not getting the brakcet

[gentle pollen]

Just trying to think of ways around not using the bracket

[gentle pollen]

I'm aware.

[fallen sphinx]

just air cooling

[wide sparrow]

AIO

[fallen sphinx]

or, sell old stuff, upgrade to 7800x3d + itx mobo, all issues solved

[gentle pollen]

I love how frustrating SFF is lmao.

[wide sparrow]

im in trouble

[fallen sphinx]

we all are

[wide sparrow]

I uuggh

[fallen sphinx]

obv it is your choice

but, to me the best option is sell old stuff for 600, upgrade to 7800x3d with itx, then youll have 280mm AIO, atx psu and better cpu/ram

[gentle pollen]

That's assuming he can sell his parts for $600 and do it intime of course.

[fallen sphinx]

yeah

[wide sparrow]

I'll buy everything first, install what I need, sell the old @gentle pollen@fallen sphinx

[fallen sphinx]

sooo by sell the old thats just psu?

[wide sparrow]

i need to sleep on it

[fallen sphinx]

fair

also just keep in mind, decide which route youll go BEFORE you buy or sell anything, you might or might not new need wtv if you do

[rustic blaze]

long post incoming, so, sorry

Recently, my friend got the 3-1 bundle from Microcenter. This bundle is an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, ASUS B650E-E TUF GAMING WIFI AMD AM5, and Crucial Pro Overclocking 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 PC5-48000.

He tried to build it today, and has been having trouble with his motherboard. There is a solid orange light for DRAM.

I've tried to help him via text and photos, and we've done the following: slotting one RAM stick at a time and reseating it, resetting CMOS battery (and removing the rubber between it and the latch), checking the format of his USB stick to FAT32 and checking the correct BIOS firmware, and letting it memory train. The only thing we have not done yet is to check the CPU mounting (or the CPU itself) because it is late and we've been at it for over four hours.

The BIOS has been installed correctly, but it was after we found out that the CMOS battery was not connected due to the rubber issue. After the BIOS has installed, the DRAM light is still orange.

Is there an issue with any of the parts? Because I, for one, cannot think of anything else that can be a problem, save for sending the motherboard to the manufacturer in hopes of getting it repaired or not.

[fallen sphinx]

does the pc work?

[rustic blaze]

He cannot use his motherboard and mouse, and there is nothing on his monitor. His previous motherboard, an AM4, still worked prior to removal.

[fallen sphinx]

sounds like dead ram probably

[rustic blaze]

I would be livid if it was

[fallen sphinx]

did you ge the microcenter warranty...

[rustic blaze]

No

[fallen sphinx]

hm

how long ago was it bought

[snow dragon]

Couldn't you just return it

[rustic blaze]

Not that long ago, Jan 1st.

[snow dragon]

Assuming it was bought before 30 days ago

Oh nice

[fallen sphinx]

yeah return it and get a new one

[rustic blaze]

I could, but I shipped it to him

[fallen sphinx]

oh

[rustic blaze]

yeah

Would it be better in this case to ship it to the manufacturer for a replacement?

[fallen sphinx]

hmmm

yes

https://www.crucial.com/warranty-home?srsltid=AfmBOoqt9iVt4aI45NkM-Jdk2iW9DVUIR1Leutp6ZcJWf3SwWvNDNB1B

[rustic blaze]

Okay. Thank you.

[gritty ruin]

Guys I just built my new pc but the fans on it keep ramping up and down!

How do i fix this?

[rustic blaze]

You may need to adjust the chassis fan speed in the bios settings via PWM, with chassis temp

I know I had to do this once, and my fans did not ramp up as quickly as yours did

[icy crater]

Omg I need help, the fans connectors on the motherboard is so confusing 😭

How do I figure out what to plug what in? And do I need a fan controller?

So I plug cpu fan to cpu_fan and one of these rgb plugs?

For the other case fans do I plug them into sys_fan and one of these rgb thingys?

Mother board is https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B650M-A-WIFI

[rustic blaze]

From what I understand, you connect the cpu fan into the CPU_FAN plug. For the cpu rgb, plug it in the JRGB2 at the top. The rgb connector must match the four pins with the plug.

As for the case fans, it depends, if you must daisy-chain them or not. But they should be plugged into SYS_FAN1, SYS_FAN2, and SYS_FAN3; and JARGB_V2_1 and JARGB_V2_2 for case rbg. The rgb cables have three holes, so they also must match the plugs with three pins on them.

Just from reading the manual first-time

[pulsar onyx]

I should buy reverse blade fans if I want to see the "pretty" side not the grill on the back for the intake fans on the side and bottom of H6 Flow case right?

[icy hull]

If you want the pretty side facing in on an intake fan then yes, reverse blades.

[pulsar onyx]

I thought so but was slightly confused, thank you for the confirmation🙏

[wide sparrow]

@snow dragonwould you switch out your MOBO for a smaller form factor and risk the possibility of the PC being moody since you're reusing your old boot drive or keep everything but the PSU and buy an AIO extension that might not fit in your carry-on if you're moving overseas?

[snow dragon]

Hmm

It won’t be moody

You’re still on am4

[wide sparrow]

yeah...

[snow dragon]

There is a chance of you having to reactivate windows but it also might not happen

And you know the command for that anyway, if it does

My windows 10 install had 4 clones and 3 board changes

Still works good

[frigid edge]

HELL NAW

[snow dragon]

R5 2600 and b450 i think, r5 5600 and b550 itx, then 9600x and b650i

[snow dragon]

[wide sparrow]

ok

[icy crater]

Thank you!

I was reading sys fan/cpu fan powers the fan. And jarg powers the rgb and I can daisy chain it based on max amps. Can I daisy chain and only plug in one sys fan as well? Is that a thing?

Also omg I had a heartattack yesterday, I was holding my motherboard by the cpu cooler. And found out it's bad to do that if there is nl backplate. I didnt install a backplate for it but apparently am5 has it built in?

[snow dragon]

Correct

And you can hold it if completely mounted

As long as the graphics card isnt in lol

[gentle pollen]

@wide sparrow I went from 5700G to 7950x to 9950x3D and for boards it was B550M to X670 to X670E. Each swap made me reactivate windows but other than that it all worked fine.

I use an actual windows activation key though so it was as easy as plugging my same key in.

[wide sparrow]

damnit

[snow dragon]

It might be the cpu and board swap perhaps

[gentle pollen]

Maybe but in any case I'd say it's a 50/50 chance of needing to reactivate windows.

[snow dragon]

trve…

[gentle pollen]

I genuinely despise Auto Correct. Half the time it doesn't even make sense.

[icy crater]

Whew ok thank you I was so scared 😭

[rare plover]

Is this enough clearance

[wide sparrow]

Sure

[rare plover]

Direct airflow

🤔

[wide sparrow]

The button fans are pulling air towards the gpu ?

[weary galleon]

In my experience this is likely worse than no fans and just having the gpu draw its own air

[rare plover]

Yea

But cmon theyre shitty antec fixed rgb fans they wont last that long lol

[pulsar onyx]

Found an rx5500xt for $75, good deal for a budget 1080 build?

[crimson zinc]

Meh

[gentle pollen]

Clearance is not an issue since those are fans feeding air.

[weary galleon]

It can be, actually

Because of turbulence and other fan mechanics

[gentle pollen]

I had the opposite experience. Note I also have my GPU fans set to not turn on unless it's over 60c.

I have 3*140 fans blasting at full speed to my GPU.

Keeps my GPU from needing to turn those damned wind turbines on in most games.

[weary galleon]

It may depend on the density of the mesh under the gpu/overall case setup. But in my experience, pulling out my bottom fans (that had very little clearance under the gpu) actually improved cooling

[gentle pollen]

Hmm interesting.

To make my dual GPU plan work I will only have one slot of clearance between the GPU so I am gonna mount my fans vertically to feed air through the GPU's side.

.

Also well I think I know why my temps have been a few degrees celsius higher these last couple months.

Time to buy some Air Canisters again lmao.

[icy crater]

😭this exactly what's happening with my pc, idk what to do

[snow dragon]

If temps are good then it is fine

I had similar clearance in the nr200 and it was fine

[limber rose]

If I mainly play bf6 redsec and plan on to start streaming is it worth buying a 5080 right now? (Would also have to wait for it to be in stock) or should I just settle for a high end 5070ti?

I want great performance great graphics and if I have to pay $700 more or so for a 5080 I’ll do it but is it really worth it rn

[icy hull]

5080 is only like 10-15% faster and costs nearly double at current prices. The higher end models are generally a terrible deal too. All you're really getting is a nicer cooler, I'd be looking at a prime or a pny for $750.

[limber rose]

Will a good 5070ti be good performance for fps games and streaming? I’ll save extra 700 instead an get me a better monitor

[icy hull]

The performance difference between a base model and the highest end oc one will be a few percent that you likely could have gotten yourself for free. Imo an upgrade to OLED instead of a 5080 is very preferable.

[mystic lava]

Hi guys i wanted to get your opinion on whats a better combo for a laptop

Ryzen 7-7445H + 3050 ti (4gb)
Or
i5 12600HX + 3050 (6 gb)

[snow dragon]

first

[icy crater]

🫡

Idk why my gpu is so low tho, maybe it's the motherboard. I swear other builds in my case had gpus higher up

[snow dragon]

If it is in the top slot then it is in the same position

Just lower because the case has less space below the motherboard

[icy crater]

Gotcha that makes sense

Maybe my fan is too bulky also 😭

[snow dragon]

If there is turbulence, then you would have to adjust fan speeds

But that is if there is any in the first place

[icy crater]

Should I do it ahead of time? I read some people lower speeds for bottom intakes through bios or something

Ah I see so just see first?

[snow dragon]

Yeah and if the speed is lower then probably nothing will happen

I always had low rpm case fans so that is probably why I had no problem

[icy crater]

🫡

[snow dragon]

Increasing the speeds for me didnt help anyway so might as well have the quieter system

[icy crater]

Also I heard some sort of fan blade noise when I was installing windows is that normal?

[snow dragon]

I think my fans are in the high 30s currently but that is because they move a lot of air

[icy crater]

Like whenever I start a process there's a small clanking noise but then stops

[snow dragon]

In the nr200 my fans were at like 60-70% because the fans max out at a low rpm

[snow dragon]

I think you should figure out what is making that sound

[icy crater]

What does maxing out at low rpm mean?

[snow dragon]

Since you obviously don't have a hard drive

[snow dragon]

They top out at ~1500 rpm

[icy crater]

Yeah im worried it's some fan cables laying behind my bottom fans and below the gpu

[snow dragon]

Probably clips it when ramping up

[icy crater]

But then I have to take out gpu and fans 😭

Also idk how to tie them down because there is not much space there

[snow dragon]

At least it wasnt like my situation where the fan was grinding against the individual cables because the vga pigtails were taking up so much space

bzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZ

[icy crater]

😭

What is vga pigtails?

[snow dragon]

I had to hold the power button fr

[icy crater]

I only know pcie pigtails

[snow dragon]

The psu cables

Yeah same thing

Different name

[icy crater]

They're so annoying ugh idk why psu companies make them

[icy crater]

As in turning it off?

[snow dragon]

yos

[icy crater]

Is it dangerous for cable grinding?

[snow dragon]

Because you might not need two cables depending on your power draw

For example the vga cable on my power supply can do 300w

So technically I don't need a second cable

[icy crater]

Whatt that much?

[snow dragon]

I could just use a single cable and its pigtail

[icy crater]

That's really convenient wow

I just ziptied my pigtails to make it less intrusive it still is really bulky with two cables plus pigtails

[snow dragon]

But I took the pigtail out and used a second cable because I hoped that it would help with coil whine, and I think it did a little bit, but not much because the coil whine is coming from my power supply and not the graphics card anymore

Or if it still is coming from the graphics card, it is very quiet

[icy crater]

Oh yeah how do I know if I have coil whine issues?

And should I return a component if it does have it?

[snow dragon]

When I was using it I bent the hell out of the cable to make it fit

You are using a good connector so it is ok to bend

[icy crater]

That's so scary thoughh

[snow dragon]

You hear a buzzing sound when gaming

If it sounds like the bugs outside at night

[icy crater]

This is how it looks rn

Oh man actually?

That is not fun

[snow dragon]

There are levels to it, just that mine is kinda bad

[icy crater]

Is it possible to replace psu or gpu if that happens?

Or is it just a feature of gpus?

[snow dragon]

If it is really bad yeah

[snow dragon]

For now it is a feature until they start selling models with glued coils to get rid of the noise

But there are ways to mitigate it

In my case, adding a second cable can help, undervolting helps because you are using less power, setting a frame rate limit helps too

[icy crater]

Sounds good I'll be undervolting hopefully that helps

[snow dragon]

Again that is if it is bad anyway

[icy crater]

🙏

Gosh ok ill probably end up taking out gpu and unscrewing fans

Do you think ziptieing them down to bottom of the case will be good to make sure the wires are not interfering with fan?

[snow dragon]

Maybe just get a screwdriver and push any cables back lol

if u wanna be lazy

[icy crater]

I dont really see the cables although the gap is really small so maybe my eye just cant see it haha

Hmm what if i take the cables to my fan

Is that a viable method? So i only need to take out gpu

[snow dragon]

Worst case scenario you just take out the card and look since motherboards now have some kind of marketing feature where the lock stays down when you push it down

Not like my old board where I had to push a pencil in between the card and the cpu tower and then keep pushing while pulling the card out

[icy crater]

Wait what feature are you talking about?

Ohh i can just pull it out?

[snow dragon]

You push down that slot retention and just pull the card out

What board you got

[icy crater]

Msi pro 650m a wifi

[icy crater]

😭

We really have it easier these days

[snow dragon]

It looks like it wont go back in while you pull the card out

But just to be sure, make sure it doesn;t move while you take the card out

[icy crater]

As it when i push open the clip?

[snow dragon]

Yeah it looks like it will stay open when pulling it out but just pay attention

[icy crater]

🫡

[serene onyx]

this dude is selling me his rig for 500$

2080 Super, Ryzen 7 5800X3d with 32 ddr4

Yay or nay

[fallen sphinx]

thats a crazy deal

[serene onyx]

This is

insane

I might have too

[fallen sphinx]

hmmm

[serene onyx]

Im gonna case swap and resell

[fallen sphinx]

yeah then buy it

make sure it works first

[serene onyx]

Yeah

[pulsar onyx]

Found a bundle deal with a ryzen 5 5600, 32gb ddr4 vengeance pro ram, a b550 pro v2 mobo, a 650w evga psu and a rx 7800xt for $550. Only thing I need is a case and storage which I have already. It's all used but looks in good condition, was used for light gaming. Seems like a great deal but maybe im missing something

[obsidian wigeon]

$550 seems decent

if all parts are tested functional

[pulsar onyx]

Package secured, incoming budget 1440 rig. Paid $250 for all this and getting a 7800xt 16gb this Friday for $250-300 depending on how in person negotiation goes

[fringe iris]

Sounds kinda dumb on my part since ive built pc’s but its been a while.. i have a 12600k and a 4070

I just got a 5070 and 14900k

It’s compatible with the mobo I have right now both LGA1700

Do i simply just swap out the cpu and graphics card? (with everything unplugged and repasted of course)

Or is there more to it

[wheat zealot]

might have to reinstall chipset drivers as well. Make sure the bios is up to date,

[crimson zinc]

(First give me the 4070 )

[gaunt jackal]

if u have a loose hdmi that is making a monitor all glitchy and ur playing something demanding like vr and then randomly all displays go black no signal and u have to force turn off pc to get display back. is that caused by the loose hdmi cable connection? iv been troubleshooting this for years and i think it was just because the hdmi port is loose on my second monitor.. iv replaced gpu. mobo. hdmi cables. ram completely reinstalled drivers and windows. iv tryed a new vr. tryed a new pci usb extension card and a new power supply.

if it was the monitor port this whole time im going to throw it on the roof and leave it up there

[fallen sphinx]

that sounds like a gpu issue

but if youve replaced it

idk

but yes a loose connection would cause that

[gaunt jackal]

im really thinking its the monitor. i havnt replaced monitor yet

[fallen sphinx]

or that

[frigid edge]

Holy steal man good job

[frigid edge]

yes lol

But I would update the motherboard bios and reinstall the gpu drivers

Also you need a beefy cpu cooler the 14900k is a mini nuclear reactor

[chrome gale]

Hey yall what do ya think about the Ryzen 9 9950X?

Or should I get the Ryzen 9 9950X 3D? Its gonna be on a PC mainly for MEP building design work.

[chrome gale]

I am looking for a motherboard with both WIFI and Bluetooth.

I am having a hard time lol

[frigid edge]

any motherboard that has wifi also has bluetooth

[frigid edge]

they have the same productivity performance but the 9950X3D has more cache which may help but its mostly for gaming performance

[chrome gale]

Gotcha. I might go with the X3d then. The 9950 is the newer gen CPU right?

[frigid edge]

9950X and 9950X3D are the newest gen

[chrome gale]

And what you think about the MSI Tomahawk 850X?

[frigid edge]

*X870 and yeah its a clean board

[chrome gale]

Thank you much for your help.

[chrome gale]

Alright ill probs go that one or something simalar then.

I want a board with good WIFI and bluetooth😅😂

[frigid edge]

make sure to buy everything from reputable sellers

[chrome gale]

I will new egg or Amazon.

[frigid edge]

perfect

[frigid edge]

would you mind if you shared your other planned part purchases? So I can see if any edits would save you money or prevent low quality parts

[chrome gale]

Sure, I already have a:
RTX 5070 TI
GSkill Trident Z5 (32GB RAM. Gen 5)
4TB T,Force GE PRO M.2 SSD

And a 1000w power supply i honestly forget exactly what one i got but tomato toomato as far as power goes.

[frigid edge]

ooh uh it is very not tomato tomahto with power

[chrome gale]

Cooler is planned to be a Artic Gen III cooler

[chrome gale]

Hang on ill grab my power pack...

MSI A1000GS

[frigid edge]

i just mean that there are a ton of power supplies out there you really shouldn't buy

[chrome gale]

Huh- I didnt know that😅. Honestly I thought a 1000w power supply is a 1000w power supply😅

[frigid edge]

thankfully it looks like you got a good one

[frigid edge]

yeah no one knows why but any brand can just make a power supply

and they can blow up ur computer cause theyre cheap junk

but reputable big brands like msi make good stuff

[frigid edge]

other than that really nice specs so far

[chrome gale]

I believe that. Its probally some chinese company's selling the same ones with like 50 different brand names which all dont make sense and are fakes

[frigid edge]

thats the case for some i have seen lol

[chrome gale]

Lol I believe that. I only buy the stuff from brands I somewhat see are common place. And not only on amazon😂🤣😂

[frigid edge]

those are a bit pricy imo, would you consider a thermalright?

they make some really neat aio's that stay in the 50-60 dollar range

while not being junk

a few great models
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D731NGTQ?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D735BZR4?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8BKKJJQ?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8BGJGKQ?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[chrome gale]

What one has better sound performance? I want it as quiet as I can reasonably get em😅

While so being strong enough to handle a SMR

[frigid edge]

whats an smr

and if you want as quiet as possible then I recommend getting an aio but then getting noctua fans to use on it, they are the quietest

[chrome gale]

Small Modular Reactor😂🤣😂

[frigid edge]

ig the 9950x is that

[chrome gale]

Aio?

[frigid edge]

aio stands for all in one and that is the type of liquid cooler we're lookin at

[chrome gale]

Says it only draws like 170w max😂

Yeah I always go an aio

[frigid edge]

yeah thats fine for a 360mm

[chrome gale]

I just heard the Artics were a reputable brand with great performance.

[frigid edge]

they say that for every brand lol

[chrome gale]

I use to always get an aio from Coursair

[frigid edge]

arctic is good yeah thermalright is also good but also cheaper

[chrome gale]

Hahaha, alright I can get one from thermalright if you say they are good.

They are cheaper😂

[frigid edge]

yup and they are very nice, I have firsthand experience with them

[chrome gale]

The artic is like 100 a coursair is like 200 and a thermalroght is like 50...

[frigid edge]

they aren't super loud

[chrome gale]

Thats good

[frigid edge]

Mhm

Did you pick a case yet

[chrome gale]

Haven't.

Was thinking phanteks

Or a er Amteks?

[chrome gale]

Got recommendations?

[frigid edge]

what model of 5070ti did you get

and do you prefer a traditional or fishtank case

and are you planning on putting your own fans in it or do you want the case to come with its own

[fallen sphinx]

Hs02 pro imo

[crimson zinc]

CoolerMaster stacker 832

[chrome gale]

Come with everything already. And honestly I dont care to much

Tis just a case.

Hell doesn't even need tempered glass😂

[frigid edge]

aight

how much do you want to spend?

[chrome gale]

Dis one.

5070 brand is basically tomato tomahto right?

I got it for 750 on sale so

[frigid edge]

yes lol

[frigid edge]

very nice

whats your case budget

[chrome gale]

Gib good case.

[frigid edge]

ok bet'

[chrome gale]

Thats the budget😂

Bet😂

I think we have spent up to 150 for a case before so

Maybe even 200 lol

If you got a board you recommend more than the X870 plz lmk.

About to buy this stuff

[frigid edge]

I'll take some looks

heres a case https://www.newegg.com/phanteks-mid-tower-steel-chassis-tempered-glass-window-abs-plastic-computer-case-black-ph-xt523p1-dbk01/p/N82E16811854133

https://www.newegg.com/phanteks-atx-mid-tower-steel-tempered-glass-case-black-ph-nv523s-dbk01/p/N82E16811854148 or this

[frigid edge]

black or white preferred?

[chrome gale]

She's bueatiful

[chrome gale]

Don't care.

[frigid edge]

I like that

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ybBzK8/asus-rog-strix-x870-a-gaming-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-rog-strix-x870-a-gaming-wifi
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mhWJ7P/gigabyte-x870-eagle-wifi7-atx-am5-motherboard-x870-eagle-wifi7
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QJsV3C/asrock-phantom-gaming-x870-riptide-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-x870-riptide-wifi

[chrome gale]

God bless😂.

[frigid edge]

I have a black build with white aio and white gpu

love it

[chrome gale]

I believe that. I think the contrast would look nice.

Anyway... I was told MSI ones had the best value or something so I kept looking at that brand

[frigid edge]

all brands are great value

usually

for this genre

but the big names wont make a trash x870 so you can really just get any

[rare plover]

What do i do if the pc didnt arrive with gpu screws but theres this latch thing

[gentle pollen]

HAVN 420 is a beautiful masterpiece of a case.

It's within $200 and your not gonna get better airflow or quality without going with an Open Air Case for buying a Limited Edition case from InWin.

@chrome gale MSI and ASRock tend to have better PCBs in the mid-range board options ($150-250)

[chrome gale]

Couldn't find these guys on NewEgg sadly. Just gonna grab an Artic cooling liquid Freezer III 280-A

[frigid edge]

amazon is fine tho

[chrome gale]

That is true😂

Ill go grab one on Amazon then.

[frigid edge]

its also on newegg but its this price idk why

yeah dont buy them on newegg lol

[chrome gale]

Lol noted😂

I must have had skill issue

Just ordered everything.

The processor was also slightly less on amazon

[frigid edge]

niceee

[frigid edge]

nah its their skill issue

[chrome gale]

Its the best PC I ever built i think

[frigid edge]

its quite beefy

which case and aio did you pick?

[weary galleon]

The case should have come with screws

If not installed, in the box somewhere

[floral bone]

whenever i play rivals it keeps crashing and sending me to home screen, idk wtf to do im new to all of this pc shit

yall got any advice

[crimson zinc]

What is your pc specs?

[frigid edge]

what is that name bro

[fickle bolt]

Fr like wth

[summer nacelle]

Fellas got a question, bought a beautifully built pc from Facebook marketplace, they said they wiped everything but it still tries to boot to Kubuntu. They told me all I gotta do is install windows and now I’ve gone through an official Microsoft Windows 10 usb and a repurposed external hard drive to install windows 11 bit but all I’m getting is this purple screen with no installer window. I haven’t the slightest clue how to uninstall an os and videos aren’t helping 🙁

Also when booting up the usb or the drive the windows logo will appear, the little spinning thing will appear as well and then purple screen. Hitting f10 will bring up a blank winpeschl.exe window that is uninteractable except selecting empty space, and I can’t type into it. Exiting that window just makes the screen black.

[frigid edge]

do you have a spare laptop or pc

[summer nacelle]

Yessir I was gonna modernize it for my sibling

But was told that having multiple ssds installed could cause it to conflict so I’m gonna try unplugging em first, thing has 2 4tb ssds and 1 2tb

[frigid edge]

step 1: install rufus on it
2. download an official windows 11 iso file
3. use rufus to put the iso on a usb drive using GPT for UEFI
4. plug it into pc
5. when turning on pc, spam click the DEL (delete) key
6. find boot priorities or boot manager and make boot option one your usb you made
7. after making it boot option one, save and exit/save and reset
8. when it turns on it should boot from that usb
9. follow the installation steps but pause at the part where you select the disk to install on
10. click every disk that isnt the usb and press delete partition
11. once they're all wiped then proceed with installing windows on the desired drive

[frigid edge]

nope not at all

all you have to do is set boot priority in bios then its fine

what are the parts of the pc?

just the cpu model will suffice

[summer nacelle]

AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core

I’m an intel boy btw

[frigid edge]

yeah so am i

[summer nacelle]

So no idea what I’m doing

[frigid edge]

good that natively supports w11

[frigid edge]

its really not very different

[frigid edge]

are you able to do these steps

[summer nacelle]

Doing it rn

[frigid edge]

make sure to get the windows iso from their website https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

[fallen sphinx]

what motherboard do you have

that many ssds might cause issues

[frigid edge]

if it was able to try booting into kubuntu or wtv then its not running out of pci lanes i think

[summer nacelle]

Downloading rn
Also some rog motherboard

Also it would boot into gnu grub as well after I tried forcing it to only boot the USB

[frigid edge]

to force it truly, in boot manager make all other boot priorities disabled

if the usb doesnt work and it cycles to bios then try another usb port

also in rufus select these options

[summer nacelle]

That’s what I did

[frigid edge]

noice

how fast did windows download and install on the usb cause dang that was fast

[summer nacelle]

Got fiber, also Rufus is doing its thing rn

Bout 25 precent now

[frigid edge]

nice

ping me if anything goes wrong

[summer nacelle]

Shouldn’t be a problem if I’m using a external hard drive instead of a usb stick, don’t got one big enough rn for 8gigs

I hope

[frigid edge]

if its an hdd then installation will be slower

but if its an ssd

speedy boi

[summer nacelle]

Pretty sure I hear a disk spinning

Also plugged it in and rebooted fingers crossed

Been spinning for a while

Lovely news we’re back to square one brb gonna unplug some ssds

[summer nacelle]

Great news unplugging them worked 👍

[frigid edge]

nice

that means the motherboard cant support them all at once

not enough pci lanes

[summer nacelle]

Sadly my old intel Inspirons product key doesn’t work

Prolly don’t know how that tech wizard I bought this pc from made it work

[frigid edge]

i'll have to dm you about that

[summer nacelle]

Mind if we do that now?

[frigid edge]

alr come back here

were you able to install windows?

[summer nacelle]

It’s installing rn without the license I’ll fix that later

[summer nacelle]

Found another product key lying around my house every is running fine so far gonna run a benchmark on the Radeon vii

[summer nacelle]

Thanks for the help btw

[rare plover]

It did not. And they were not in the box

[glossy citrus]

I need a recommendations for a 750+W power supply.

[stoic island]

what's the context? budget and any constraints?

[wheat zealot]

Rosewill makes decent power supplies the VSB & VMG ones.

[glossy citrus]

$150

[icy hull]

US?

[stoic island]

What case and what GPU?

For size constraints and requirements for 12vhpwr or extra 8 pins

[fallen sphinx]

Montech century II 850w

[cinder gulch]

Taking my computer in to be built tomorrow (don’t have the time)…
Microcenter offers the same as Best Buy to build, but BB is much closer and gives their 1 year total care membership geek squad vs Microcenter 90 day labor warranty ….thinking maybe BB because you just get more? Also $50 less to build.
Thoughts?

[weary galleon]

I would trust MC more than BB, but if best buy is significantly closer and $50 cheaper that's probably the better option

Also it really doesn't take that long to do it yourself

[rare plover]

What’s the best layout to put my fans in? Its currently in bottom intake and top/back exhaust but i want to maximise airflow

[cinder gulch]

Yeah I 100% trust MC to be more knowledgeable and even made an appointment with them, but $50, 30min closer and 1 year membership is hard to beat. I made up my mind lol

[frigid edge]

its already at the max

[abstract hearth]

hi can anyone help me choose my pc parts

[frigid edge]

yeah whats your budget

[abstract hearth]

it’s like 2k but i was tryna save up with the micro center combos

tho price been rising

[frigid edge]

indeed

[abstract hearth]

turns my soul

[frigid edge]

hm someone else may be able to help more as i am not well versed with micro center stuff

[abstract hearth]

i kinda had an idea in mind about a 5070 ti with like a 7800

but i didn’t know much about about motherboards or

[icy hull]

Are you ready to buy soon? And the boards that come in the microcenter combos are fine.

[abstract hearth]

Yes

like this week if possible

[icy hull]

Is that 2k for a PC, or PC + monitor and some peripherals?

[abstract hearth]

js for the pc alone

[icy hull]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TR6fsp Just plain black, no frills? Microcenter also likely has a 9070xt in stock for $600 and that's a pretty compelling deal compared to $750 for a 5070ti. Basically the same performance just not quite as nice on some features and worse for some non-gaming stuff like premiere, py torch/ai or blender.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/WD-BLACK-SN850X-NVMe-Internal-SSD-2TB-WDBB9G0020BNC-WRWM/5540195488

[fallen sphinx]

the bundle is 580

[fallen sphinx]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007267/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-asus-b650e-e-tuf-gaming-wifi-am5,-crucial-pro-overclocking-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

[icy hull]

Maybe it's regional?

Mine's on santa clara

[fallen sphinx]

@abstract hearth whats your local microcenter

[fallen sphinx]

mines a random one

[abstract hearth]

kissena

nyc

flushing

[abstract hearth]

yeha be it was 579

mfs raised the price

in an instant

[fallen sphinx]

thats a fully updated tab

oh wow yup regional pricing

rip

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k4kZ4p id get an aio and this psu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7GYZ4p or this psu if you dont care about brand, its a B tier unit

[ruby yew]

So I’ve been having random reboots for a long while and I use to get memory bsods and what not not very often it did happen and they were always random related to memory
I ran memtests and they all ran perfect 13 passes no fails
I replaced my cpu and motherboard and since then it doesn’t bsod and doesn’t reboot anymore it just goes black and nothing else pc doesn’t turn off or restart just screen off making me have to turn it off and on

I’m thinking either transient power from powersupply or maybe overheating vrms on the gpu???

It only does it when loading up a game or launching a video up or watching a video and even then doesn’t always bappen

[stoic island]

kinda smells like nvldmkm

check your event logs

[ruby yew]

Drivers?

[stoic island]

weird nvidia driver things, often accompanied by a nvlddmkm.sys error in event viewer

[ruby yew]

Only thing I get is kernal error

[stoic island]

If there's nothing else, then run testmem5

[ruby yew]

I get kernal that’s all and mem test came back fine

13 passes

[stoic island]

which memtest?

karhu or occt is good enough

memtest86 tends to not be enough

testmem5 is usually the easiest and more consistent

[ruby yew]

I tried memtest86 and occt

Memtest passed and occt had 0 errors and I ran it for 30 mins

I’ll try testmem5 for a bit and see if anything comes up

It tends to happen during very light loads like loading a game up or just opening a video

That’s why I was thinking vrms from gpu or maybe my PSU isn’t so swell with the transient power from my 6950xt

[stoic island]

It is still decently likely to be a driver or windows issue, good old ddu as usual and dism/sfc

[ruby yew]

I tried that and did a fresh windows install from another pc on a usb

[abstract hearth]

is the 7800 micro center deal a good combo or no

[stoic island]

Which one? The 7800x3d + Mobo + ram bundle?

[frigid edge]

which one

when askin questions here you gotta specify a bit more lol

[abstract hearth]

yes

[abstract hearth]

i can’t send pic

[snow dragon]

Price

[weary galleon]

You can send links

[stoic island]

Assuming this one, yea, it's a good deal, it'll cost 750-800 ish elsewhere
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007267/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-asus-b650e-e-tuf-gaming-wifi-am5,-crucial-pro-overclocking-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

[snow dragon]

The ram alone is the majority of that

That’s pretty good

[abstract hearth]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/stCzBq

oh

yeah he sent it

[abstract hearth]

yeah

with the x870 instead of the b650

do you think the 750 is worth it

i’m thinking of pairing that up with a 7800 and a 5070

[stoic island]

The x870 board isn't really worth it

[snow dragon]

Truth

[fallen sphinx]

Nah

B650 one is good

X870 one sucks

[flat cliff]

Hello can someone guide me to choose what gaming laptop i should buy mostly will play overwatch and dota 2 and similar games and browsing and watching videos that is running to 144fps but not expensive and good for future

[obsidian wigeon]

what's your budget?

and your region, so i can find a good deal for you

[flat cliff]

Let say around 500$ i live in Middle East

[obsidian wigeon]

oof, that isn't gonna get you much if i have to be honest

[craggy snow]

is there any fan options more powerful than the arctic 12038-8k?

wanna just strap an overkill fan to a tiny sff case

[flat cliff]

What you suggest and for how much budget

[obsidian wigeon]

i'd save up to at least 600-700 USD equivalent and go from there

something with at least a 4060 is what you want

4050 is alright too, but the 6gb vram is honestly not a lot

[flat cliff]

What you have choices for 4060

So i can choose from or similar to it

[obsidian wigeon]

so since you're asking about it here in the newegg server, i'm gonna guess you're shopping in the US sites and are importing the laptop into your country. is that right?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Nitro-V-16-1920-x-1200-WUXGA-180Hz-Gaming-Laptop-AMD-Ryzen-5-16GB-RAM-512GB-Obsidian-Black/16518616112

idk if walmart ships to your country, but there's this

5050 is a decent alternative for the price range

[flat cliff]

Yes

[flat cliff]

No

[obsidian wigeon]

aw alright

what are the options for you? in terms of places to shop from

[flat cliff]

I can shop from newegg or amazon or like this shops that ship to my country

[fallen sphinx]

Gaming laptops were Alr bad but they got HIT by price increases

[crimson zinc]

Yeah they’re garbage

[livid hound]

hey waht do you guys reccomend i shoiuld do if my pc is stuttering?

[obsidian wigeon]

5050 ain't all that bad tho, for the price it's ok

[obsidian wigeon]

check your resource usage with an OSD

[livid hound]

an osd?

[obsidian wigeon]

something like msi afterburner+rtss

then watch your cpu and gpu's temps and clock speed

as well as fps and frametime

[livid hound]

im afraid i dont know how 😭

[obsidian wigeon]

do you use an nvidia gpu?

[livid hound]

amd

[obsidian wigeon]

ah okay, amd does have a built in osd too

i'm not familiar with it though, unfortunately

[livid hound]

awe man okay

[obsidian wigeon]

but you can try to research on how to set it up

[livid hound]

alright

i want to figure this out asap 😭