building-and-recc-chat

[snow dragon]

Oh they are even closer

They both have the same controllers and 5 year warranty

But it seems that the flash on the gigabyte can write faster

[fallen sphinx]

Mmmm so the gigabyte one?

[snow dragon]

So it'll be like other drives where when the cache runs out it goes down to like 1.6 gb/s

[snow dragon]

perhaps

[fallen sphinx]

But it is better right?

[snow dragon]

Yeah

[snow dragon]

I misread this

That was the transfer rate, but still much faster than the pny anyways

[fallen sphinx]

Alr

Thanks

And out of curiosity what abt 4tb ones

C910 for 260?

[snow dragon]

Ight so this is completely contradictory

Oh thats 1 tb

[fallen sphinx]

[snow dragon]

This is still not fair because the pny tested is 1 tb

But the cache size is basically half and toms shows that when both are 1 tb they are folding at the same time

So they probably have the same cache sizes

2 gig folding speed is pretty good though

[snow dragon]

It is slower than these two

So I guess for 2 get the aorus and get the pny for 4

[fallen sphinx]

alr

[snow dragon]

Once again I spoke too soon

Sorry

So I guess cras or kingspec

[fallen sphinx]

[fallen sphinx]

i dont really need 4tb

i alr have a large storage hdd

[snow dragon]

Oh ok

Then try the aorus, see how it is

Looks to be good

[fallen sphinx]

alr

ill put it on my christmas list

[fallen sphinx]

it arrives after christmas 🙁

pny one it is

[languid nimbus]

Man, I still need to finish Christmas shopping and I’m kind of at a point where it’s so late in the year I’m just gonna have to go and get everything in person

[hollow gulch]

This is qlc it sucks

Good ssd, has dram cache

[fallen sphinx]

im getting a uh

i think that one

yeah

[hollow gulch]

You can also buy used

[fallen sphinx]

too late

[hollow gulch]

Ive seen oem versions of the p41 platinum and 980 pro for cheap on ebay

Which are identical to the consumer versions

[fallen sphinx]

its my paretns gift

sooo

[hollow gulch]

For you? Or for your parents

[fallen sphinx]

for me

[snow dragon]

Yeah

[fallen sphinx]

soooo

[weary galleon]

Qlc can be ok for nvmes

This is better though. $66/tb and tlc

https://www.walmart.com/ip/WD-Blue-SN5000-NVMe-SSD-nbsp-2TB-WDBS3F0020BNC-WRWM/13553973014

[snow dragon]

Sn5000 is a pretty good drive

Its cache endurance is pretty nice

[weary galleon]

Esp with the current storage market I think it's a decent deal

[snow dragon]

After it folds it’s not the best but still

[snow dragon]

Wow that price is almost not even affected

[weary galleon]

Mhm

[snow dragon]

I didn’t know that drive was still cheap

[weary galleon]

It's been like that for a couple days surprisingly

[snow dragon]

I thought that got bought up alr

[snow dragon]

Yeah

[hollow gulch]

Except its not, qlc + hmb is a joke for endurance and folds faster with slower speeds

[weary galleon]

It can be alright for game drives

[hollow gulch]

Pretty much all qlc drives slow down to the speed of hdds after they fold

They really do suck.

[snow dragon]

Sn5000 is the exception

[snow dragon]

I wonder how bad plc will be

[hollow gulch]

Yeah that only slows down to sata ssd speeds lol

Still not great

Also wait I thought sn5000 was tlc

Yeah it is

[snow dragon]

Pretty much yeah

Oh the 4 tb is qlc

[hollow gulch]

To cut cost

[snow dragon]

I thought all configs were qlc

Well how does the tlc version hold up after folding

[hollow gulch]

The qlc folds to about 540MB/s

I can only find the 4tb reviews

[snow dragon]

Yup same

That’s why I thought it was all qlc till now

Oh wow I forgot how long the cache lasts on this drive

~3 minutes

[serene onyx]

With the ram prices and stuff how much would you pay for a pc that has like a r5 5500, 16gb ddr4, 4tb NVME, and a RX 6600 or better

Or how much would you sell it for 🧐

Need to know how to price my pc accordingly 😞

[weary galleon]

$500ish?

Maybe more like 600 with current ram and storage pricing

Depends on the speed of the ram and what nvme ssd it is

[frigid edge]

lol more than that

[frigid edge]

definitely like 700 dollars at least

maybe 750

[hollow gulch]

Its only more because that 4tb ssd

No way in hell id pay that much for a 5500 RX 6600 system

[frigid edge]

with the current prices you can build a 4790k 1660ti pc for 500 dollars bro

5500 6600 is worth more

plus yeah its got 16gb ddr4 and a crazy amount of storage

[fickle bolt]

16 gb ddr4? U a millionaire or sm?

[gentle pollen]

I am in agreement with Stevie that with the current market, $600 is realistic. Anyone who is sane and knows something about PCs will not pay more than that.

[serene onyx]

I was thinking in the same ballpark

[gentle pollen]

Mostly because of that SSD.

[serene onyx]

Yeah

[gentle pollen]

The rest of it to be frank is worthless.

Low capacity and I assume slow DDR4 which isn't in massive demand like DDR5 and a low end CPU/GPU combo.

[weary galleon]

Well... DDR4 actually is jumping in price as well

[gentle pollen]

Not a lot though.

2x8GB of 3200cl16 is about $100, used to be around $80 when I was in the market for D4 two years ago.

[weary galleon]

I've been looking at 2x16 ~3200mhz used and it's all $110+

[gentle pollen]

So about a 25% increase in cost for DDR4.

I wish I had a good D4 board to push my D4 ram to extremes on the 5700G.

I have some beautiful yet cursed 2x16 4000cl18 Samsung D-Die.

[restive halo]

Is this decent for the parts.

[short pollen]

Can windows go onto my slower ssd? I’ll have a gen5 and a gen3 ssd in my pc, but I wanna save as much space as I can on my gen5, will putting windows on my gen3 slow it down noticeably? (More than like 2 seconds slower)

[snow dragon]

No

I have windows 10 and 11 on a gen 3 drive, both boot fast

The peak speeds are not the main drivers for operating a computer

That's just for file transfers

[hollow gulch]

Why are we not using 3dmark

[hollow gulch]

No.

[hollow gulch]

Worth $500 maybe less, only reason it costs more is because of that 4tb ssd. Would not buy that.

[frigid edge]

Yes actually try making a 500$ pc build

[rustic imp]

yo can anyone check this out and lmk if its good i lokey jsut threw stuff together with some recs from other ppl

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tBwMqH

[restive halo]

Just did this quick. Ill do that now

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PPxL6Q

Double the storage, GPU ~17% worse and it’s 1000$ less

And actually had an AIO that’s being sold

[fallen sphinx]

@snow dragon that ssd wont work its out of stock everywhere, firecuda 530r or 990 evo plus

[valid hollow]

Two years ago DDR4 is different from 2025 DDR4. For the first 6-8 months of 2025, 16GB kits were ~25-40$ and 32GB kits were ~50-75$ depending on where you sourced them. Now even the used market is bottoming out at 75-100$ generally

[willow sigil]

ROG STRIX X870E-E GAMING WIFI.,ned to due bios ubdate to this mobo whit my Ryzen 7 7800x3D.

[hollow gulch]

no, but you should update it regardless

[gentle pollen]

Need no. Though update it for improved memory support.

[grave crescent]

Hey can anyone help me with figuring one hell of an issue out

I haven’t used my PC in a while because I seemed to have issues with it powering down when my AC kicks on. So I finally recently bought a CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD. I just now had time to actually turn my PC on after plugging it in and my GPU immediately caught on fire. Luckily it’s a cheaper alternative for testing but I’m now way too scared to plug in my expensive one and boot it up

[frigid edge]

warranty it 💀

@teal horizon it says the case in his pcpp screenshot

also u cant send a message in build pics unless it has an image or else itll get auto deleted

[wheat zealot]

Anyone know how much a 5060 ti 16gb open box usually goes for?

[grave crescent]

If you mean the card it’s out of warranty

[frigid edge]

then you're cooked

something was plugged in wrong and it shorted some transistors

[grave crescent]

Lucky for me It’s a 1060 I was using for testing but I’m worried its going to fry my 6700xt

I haven’t changed anything since the last time I started up the PC other than plugging in the cyberpower backup so I’m not sure how anything could be wrong but idk

It’s been sitting for months

[frigid edge]

what psu do you have

[grave crescent]

CoolerMaster MWE gold v3 850watt

[frigid edge]

hmm sounds like a good model

is it modular

[grave crescent]

Yeah

[frigid edge]

ok check it to make sure every cable is in all the way

on the psu

and then when you put your 6700xt in

make sure its plugged into the slot all the way

same with its power connector

but before you do that

does the power connector have any burn damage

or just the 1060

[grave crescent]

The connected didn’t smoke any but let me check

[frigid edge]

what couldve happened was something got on the 1060 that was made of metal or moist enough to complete a circuit not meant to be completed

[grave crescent]

Connectors looks ok

I hope that’s all that happened

I have wondered if my case is allowing my gpu to seat all the way in the pcie slot or not but I didn’t have any issues from it before

Feels like all the connections at the psu were in good too

[frigid edge]

alr then go for it

no point in not trying

[grave crescent]

My nice gpu also has no warranty so I’m cooked if this goes south

I’ll have to try tmmrw though

[teal horizon]

Every machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

[languid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-point-kronk-gif-13896471

[fickle bolt]

We're revoking your tech license

[lunar cosmos]

Hey yall quick question, i just started building my pc

And i was wondering

I have this motherboard

[crimson zinc]

Interesting

I too have a motherboard

[lunar cosmos]

Lol one sec

[crimson zinc]

If you’re trying to send pics, you gotta level up a bit

Just a few dozen messages

[lunar cosmos]

Bruh

Uhh

[crimson zinc]

Or I can post it for you

Send it in dms to me

[lunar cosmos]

But i have the ASUS TUF GAMING B850E WIFI motherboard

[lunar cosmos]

I just wanted to know if this board is supposed have storage covers for the othrr 2 m.2 slots

Heatsink covers*

[crimson zinc]

I don’t believe so. Although you can probably get it separate.

[lunar cosmos]

Ah hmm, thats a rip. Sounds good. Thanks!

Any idea where i can buy the extras?

[weary galleon]

AliExpress has ssd heatsinks for a couple bucks

Also many ssds will be fine with no heatsink and just passive airflow in the case

[lunar cosmos]

Ahh ok perfect, thanks!

Also, i just wanted to confirm

The motherboard for the cpu has a 8 pin and a 4 pin

Im not sure which cable to use for the 4 pin

And where to plug into the psu

Any suggestions

[lunar cosmos]

Do i need it?

Or is the 8 cable enough?

[weary galleon]

The 8 pin alone is likely enough. What cpu do you have?

[lunar cosmos]

9800x3d

[weary galleon]

Yeah you're good with the 8 pin

[weary galleon]

I believe you'd just use half of a 4+4 cpu cable

[lunar cosmos]

Ahh ok gotcha. That makes sense. Thanks!!

[weary galleon]

And plug into the power supply where it's marked "cpu"

Not "pcie"

[lunar cosmos]

On the psu it says CPU/PCIe

[weary galleon]

Pic? Or PSU model?

[lunar cosmos]

Not enough msgs for pic yet lol but the model is century 2 gold 850W

[weary galleon]

Huh. I could've sworn cpu and pcie/gpu are seperate but looks like they're the same

[lunar cosmos]

Yeaa...

[weary galleon]

I guess it depends per psu

[lunar cosmos]

Gotcha, thanks!

[weary galleon]

Still make sure to use the 4+4 connector into the motherboard CPU connector

[lunar cosmos]

Yes i did that!

[wheat zealot]

😩

[frigid edge]

W upgrade

[wheat zealot]

Not for me sadly

[frigid edge]

oh

[wheat zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-walk-of-shame-shame-shameful-head-down-gif-5548725

[fickle bolt]

Does the pump go on cpu opt or cpu fan

[icy hull]

They're all fan headers. The only difference is, maybe, the default curve. Opt might have one intended for a pump but I'd just set the pump at a consistent speed in the 70%+ range and leave it.

[fickle bolt]

Alr

Yea now I remember

Pump goes in opt then radiator fans go in fan with a splitter

[broken lake]

chat, if my pc worked before moving it, and then it sat for a month, and now won’t turn on, does anyone know what might be the most likely issue?

[gentle pollen]

Things to try:

1. Reseat the CPU, RAM, GPU, along with all power cables.
2. Clear CMOS

While reseating the CPU, RAM, and GPU take a moment to check if all the pins are intact (the gold colored pieces of metal).

[weary galleon]

Also make sure the PSU power switch didn't get flipped off

[stoic island]

anything specific happen when you try to turn it on? Any fans turn on then off? Any lights or debug LEDs?

[broken lake]

nothing at all

[stoic island]

Check power button and power cables, clear cmos and you can try swapping the button battery

[broken lake]

It’s at moment like this that I regret building sff

It’s such a pain in the ass to get to all that stuff

nvm it just randomly turned on

[snow dragon]

Which case

[lilac tinsel]

anyone have any clue why my fans make this noise whenever booting my pc or changing fan curves? it's less noticeable if i only have one plugged but with every single one it adds to the noise, it's a 5 pack of arctic p12s

[snow dragon]

Yeah my brother has a similar sound

P12 max

Doesn’t sound exactly like that but there is a whirr sound when changing rpm

Probably just cheap fan things

I don’t know exactly what causes that but it seems like an arctic quirk

[broken lake]

Lian Li x Dan a4h2o

[lilac tinsel]

yeah exactly, thought i was the only one

they get super praised but nobody mentions this

[snow dragon]

Yeah because it seems like most people are not in an environment quiet enough for it, or the people reviewing them do not care or notice it

Most are just testing one or two fans

[snow dragon]

Nice case

Yeah that one is pretty packed

[broken lake]

I’m lost, pc turns on, hdmi cable works, gpu spins up, no signal

[snow dragon]

I say it is worth it though because of how good it looks

[snow dragon]

Reseat the ram

[broken lake]

it’s an awesome case

I shall try

it might take a while

[snow dragon]

Nahhh you have space to take it out

The aio block aint in the way

For me at least

[broken lake]

she tight

[snow dragon]

Dealing with the graphics card and aio was pretty bad though

The tubes are not flexible and my card was in the way

[snow dragon]

I conveniently forgot about the tubes routing over the ram

[broken lake]

I can probably reseat it with minimal effort

yeaaaaa

[snow dragon]

Yeah you can probably just pull them back a lil

[broken lake]

it’s not too bad haha

[snow dragon]

Is that the atmos

[broken lake]

atmos?

[icy hull]

I've seen lots of people complain about p12s being annoying in the 1000-1200rpm range.

[snow dragon]

The aio

[broken lake]

oh I have no idea haha

I bought it years ago

I think it’s cooler master

I reseated the ram and I’m still getting nothing

[weary galleon]

That sounds like the fan might be ramping up too fast

[snow dragon]

My air slimmers ramp up super fast but make no noise doing it

I think it is just a quirk with their motors

My brother has the same thing

[weary galleon]

Probably depends on the type/quality of motor and bearings

[broken lake]

my arctic p12s have never given me issues

[weary galleon]

Covante is right that some arctic fans have a whining issue at certain rpms. But the noise in the video doesn't sounds like that whine, plus it's occuring at boot and when changing curves (both have potential to rapidly increase fan speed)

[broken lake]

I’m so lost, I have no idea what’s wrong with my pc

[broken lake]

I gave up

[lilac tinsel]

late reply cause it was night but it isn't about rpm at all, any rpm is fine and it's just wind noise at max but it's about startup or changes

i have it at 1k all the time for the case fans and its the same as 600 or 1200

[shadow mango]

Okay im ordering some parts ti start a new pc buikd i want to do a full custom water cooling whats your inspo or problems you had with it

[weary galleon]

Problems: significantly more work, more maintenance, more risk of component damage, minimal performance gains in most scenarios

[fallen sphinx]

What he said, and it’s also absurdly expensive

[stuck abyss]

Just to confirm. Buying a prebuilt is cheaper than building one . I am building one, and found the same EXACT SPECS on newegg for $200 cheaper

Might just get a prebuilt and save a headache

[weary galleon]

With current ram prices it's possible for prebuilts to be cheaper. Keep in mind you're likely getting slightly worse motherboard/power supply/ram

[stuck abyss]

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-gaming-desktop-pcs-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-32gb-ddr5-2tb-nvme-ssd-st-azure3-2699-w-al-white/p/3D5-000Z-003K8

am looking at this right now

Any thoughts?

[weary galleon]

It's a little bit cheaper than building your own but not $200

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QFGtVF

[stuck abyss]

your not including taxes

[weary galleon]

And the ram is 5600mhz which isn't ideal

[stuck abyss]

• any shipping charges

• any recycleable fees

• build time

[weary galleon]

shipping is included on PCPP

taxes are gonna happen no matter where you buy

Not sure what recyclable fees are?

Build time, yes that's an extra cost

[stuck abyss]

fee for purchasing electronics

[weary galleon]

Wait are you in the US?

[stuck abyss]

My current build is a 4060 ti ryzne 7 7800x3d 32 GB DDR5 6000mhz

Any recommendations?

[stuck abyss]

Yes

[weary galleon]

Never heard of this

[stuck abyss]

in CA we got it

[weary galleon]

...just upgrade the gpu?

[stuck abyss]

no handing it off to my brother

[weary galleon]

7800x3d is rediculously overkill for a 4060ti. Personally I would upgrade the gpu and keep that system for yourself, then get your brother a lower tier build using the 4060ti

[stuck abyss]

I am planning on getting a 9800x3d with a 5070 or 5070ti

this is what am stuck on

Not going to keep this build

Build costed me 1.2k like 2 years ago 😂

[weary galleon]

Look elsewhere for advice then

[stuck abyss]

brother why you assuming people are broke

smh

[weary galleon]

If you're gonna flex money you can pay me to consult

[stuck abyss]

would have you pay me to take your advice

wants me to get a shittier pc than a 4060ti

[weary galleon]

?

[stuck abyss]

4060ti is not good at all

just a heads up

especially for Rust

and other games

[weary galleon]

I know that

I never said it was good?

[stuck abyss]

[weary galleon]

I think you could work on your reading comprehension perhaps

[stuck abyss]

am figuring out the parts, and making sure to ignore your advice

thats what am doing

gotta multi-task

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zt8ysp

Should be so much better, no idea why yall love Samsung Storage and shitty power supplies

[weary galleon]

NV3 is a budget QLC drive while the 990 is TLC with double the TBW rating. Figured you might want a nice ssd in such an expensive build

[stuck abyss]

I apreciate the suggestion, that I might follow.

[weary galleon]

Don't necessarily need the 990 but I personally think a non-QLC drive with higher endurance is a good idea for your OS drive

QLC is alright for game drives

[stuck abyss]

you think a 5070 and a9800x3d will not

whats it called again

one is too fast and one too slow?

forgot the name

[rare plover]

is the acer nitro 9060xt 16gb a good quality card? i see it is on sale for my country as of now

[stuck abyss]

how much is it in your currency before I answer your question

[rare plover]

1690~

[stuck abyss]

1690 what?

[rare plover]

Nis

Similar to an 8gb pulse 9060xt

[rare plover]

Don’t bother comparing to usd. It wont help

[stuck abyss]

quick question, do you know the price of a 5070 in your country? 5070 is better than 9060xt by a mile

[stuck abyss]

$520 USD

[rare plover]

Too much

[stuck abyss]

Understandable, what about a 9070?

Still too much as well?

[rare plover]

If it was in the price range then I wouldn’t be asking about a 9060

[stuck abyss]

9070 is cheaper in the US than a 5070. So that's why I was asking

[rare plover]

Im ignoring the US market because it doesn’t help me currently

[stuck abyss]

understandable that's why I wanted to ask to get the feel of the market. The card is OK, but I would strongly utilize https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/ and click on AVG Bench % to see the GPU ranking

Its ranked 34 on the GPU tier list, if you can look for any other deals with a better ranking I would, if not I would just purchase that

[rare plover]

There aren’t any

[stuck abyss]

Then that would be your best bet in my opinion

[rare plover]

It’s only on acer products. Either the same model but 8gb, or a b570

[fallen sphinx]

????

Why are you recommending ubm

[stuck abyss]

Its not a recommendation, its just a easy and quick way to get a general idea

[hollow gulch]

Yes

[stuck abyss]

Unless you wanted to go into the complicated area of buying from the US and paying $20-$40 shipping with + 18% VAT

[rare plover]

no

[fallen sphinx]

No

[hollow gulch]

Userbenchmark is the biggest joke ever

Is this satire or

[stuck abyss]

It's a general idea to get the rankings

[hollow gulch]

No its not

Horrible site

[fallen sphinx]

UBM is actually horrible, it’s the single worst website to use

?ubm

[stuck abyss]

Then what other website do you recommend

[jolly river]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[hollow gulch]

TechPowerUp

[rare plover]

Is a 5600x good enough for it or should i pay an extra 60 ish nis (20~ usd) for a 5700x

[fallen sphinx]

Or passmark

Both good

[stuck abyss]

UI looks like its from the 2008s, thanks

[hollow gulch]

$20 extra for a 5700x isnt bad but a 5600x is more than adequate

?

[rare plover]

alright thanks

[fallen sphinx]

Ah yes that has so much meaning to how good a website is

[hollow gulch]

Userbenchmark UI is literally worse LMAO

[fallen sphinx]

And that

[hollow gulch]

It looks even older

[stuck abyss]

how do I filter by GPU Benchmark?

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/

[hollow gulch]

Literally type in a gpu

And scroll down

[fallen sphinx]

Type in the name

[stuck abyss]

I do not want to type it in, and want a top 1-100

[fallen sphinx]

[fallen sphinx]

Type in the name

[fallen sphinx]

Man typing in 6 letters is so hard

[stuck abyss]

yea pretty hard if you ask me, getting ad spammed, and cant filter the ranking from top 1 to top 100

pretty smart not to include that

and have to type in a GPU name

[fallen sphinx]

You act like UBM is accurate

[fallen sphinx]

It’s better to have % comparisons

And the number place means nothing

[stuck abyss]

Just to confirm the 7900 XT is better than the 5070?

It is

[hollow gulch]

Userbenchmark is totally incorrect so if you'd rather use that then go ahead

[hollow gulch]

Yes lol

[stuck abyss]

Am learning somethign new

Benchmark had the oppsoite lol

[fallen sphinx]

Yes?

[fallen sphinx]

Disregarding the vram it’s still faster

[hollow gulch]

If you have enough for a 7900 xt you have enough for a 9070 and id rather have the 9070

[fallen sphinx]

Yeah

Perform the same, but rt goes to 9070 and better upscaling

[hollow gulch]

Also lower wattage

[fallen sphinx]

Ye

[stuck abyss]

@fallen sphinx @hollow gulch Any suggestions to this pc part picker

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zt8ysp

[fallen sphinx]

Basically change everything

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dZWjPJ

[rare plover]

Im back

Uh

[rare plover]

750w psu is good for the 9060 right?

[fallen sphinx]

Perfectly fine

Just make sure it’s good

[rare plover]

Corsair rm750e

Good

A on the tierlist

I think

Or B

[fallen sphinx]

Is it like cheap?

Corsair usually isn’t

[rare plover]

165 bucks here but its fine trust

[fallen sphinx]

Uh

What country

[rare plover]

Anywayd

[hollow gulch]

Say your country

[rare plover]

So my father agreed that i buy the gpu and he buys everything else (i think)

[fallen sphinx]

What country

I would really be hesitant about the list ice bear gave you

No offense to him

[rare plover]

Israel

This is what i did

[fallen sphinx]

What website is that

[stuck abyss]

never gave a list

[rare plover]

Tns

Tms

Local

[fallen sphinx]

Uhh

What website

[rare plover]

TMS computers. Ignore price

Just is it an alright build

[stuck abyss]

am going to hold off on your suggestions. Don't want AMD, and need to upgrade to a 9800x3d. Be Quiet will always be the best PSU in my heart

[fallen sphinx]

Wdym ignore price

[gentle pollen]

Chag Sameach

[rare plover]

Gam lecha ach sheli

[fallen sphinx]

Why not AMD? 9800x3d is currently too overpriced and your opinion means wasting money?

[stuck abyss]

I prefer upgrading from a 7800x3d. Also Nvidia GPUs are the only thing I can use

[fallen sphinx]

Don’t upgrade from a 7800x3d and buy a new mobo and ram what?????

[rare plover]

So is the build itself good?

[fallen sphinx]

Is there a reason for only Nvidia?

[fallen sphinx]

It’s fine

[stuck abyss]

reasons I cant say here

[fallen sphinx]

Huh?

[rare plover]

Anyways i will leave you two and go read thrawn

Bye fellas

[gentle pollen]

I can't tell if you're trolling or not.

[fallen sphinx]

Well still

Wdym upgrade from a 7800x3d

[stuck abyss]

not trolling but I cant say it here

[gentle pollen]

@rare plover what were you looking for help with?

[fallen sphinx]

AND buying a new mobo + ram

😭

[stuck abyss]

huhhhh???

this is a WHOLE NEW PC BUILD

not a couple part upgrade unc

[fallen sphinx]

Then what do you mean upgrade from a 7800x3d…

[stuck abyss]

yea am upgrading to a new pc and I dont want to get the same cpu

[fallen sphinx]

So you already have a 7800x3d?

[gentle pollen]

You are selling your current one?

[rare plover]

Want to buy a pc with my father for my birthday . I offered he pay 3000 nis for the pc and i pay for the gpu. First asked if the acer nitro 9060xt has good build quality and then sent a pic of the part list to ask if its fine

[gentle pollen]

I can't give advice regarding the cost in your market but I can tell you if the part combo is good or not if you send it to me.

[rare plover]

Sent it already but here

[fallen sphinx]

Do NOT buy all new things when you alr have a 7800x3d

😭

That’s just pure idiocy

[rare plover]

Not breaking any benchmark records but it should work for schoolwork, 3d printing and gaming right

[stuck abyss]

giving the pc to brother

[rare plover]

No gpu cus im buying it from somewhere else

[fallen sphinx]

You are getting the 16gb version right

[stuck abyss]

so hes getting the 7800x3d

[rare plover]

Probably

[fallen sphinx]

Just make him a pc

[stuck abyss]

Am tired of this, going to get a whole new one with a 9800x3d

[fallen sphinx]

Which won’t be anything super noticeable

😭

[stuck abyss]

will be when am upgrading from a 4060ti

[fallen sphinx]

Here’s an idea

[rare plover]

3d printing as in handling the slicer program without taking a dump or passing the boiling point of water*

[fallen sphinx]

Get a new gpu

And give your gpu + buy new pc to your brother

Simple

Get the msi 7700 deal and save money

[rare plover]

Also Is 16gb of ram enough for beamng

[gentle pollen]

I've never heard of any issues with the Acer Nitro GPUs for this gen so it is likely fine.

Regarding the list, I'd strongly recommend going for either a Dual Tower Air Cooler or 280-360mm AIO for a 5700x as that chip runs hot.

For the SSD, I have not heard of it before, do you know if it has DRAM for sustained read/writes which is beneficial for 3D design.

[stuck abyss]

am not changing anything on this current pc. Am building a whole new one for me

[fallen sphinx]

You’re gonna be wasting money

[rare plover]

Not design just using the slicing program

[fallen sphinx]

Just upgrade your gpu and give your brother a new cheaper pc

[stuck abyss]

i'll be fine, not going to get my brother a shity pc for money saving

[fallen sphinx]

It won’t be shitty

[gentle pollen]

Oh okay, yeah most decent Gen4 ssds are fine then.

[fallen sphinx]

It’ll be like a bit worse while saving quite a bit

[stuck abyss]

yea no, not going to get him something worse so I can save money

thanks for the ideas

am going to pass

[fallen sphinx]

Yourwaste of money

[rare plover]

Are you familiar with the arctic freezer xtreme tower cooler

[gentle pollen]

So then the only thing I'd change and strongly suggest is a better cooler. Thermalright has really good 360mm AIO's in the $50-60 USD range. @rare plover

[fallen sphinx]

At least don’t get that god awful list you sent

[stuck abyss]

preciate it, atleast my brother doesnt play on a shittier pc

[fallen sphinx]

Whatever you want

[gentle pollen]

I am familiar only with their AIO solutions.

[rare plover]

No thermalright here 😢

[gentle pollen]

What are your budget options?

[rare plover]

Is this 120mm slab of aluminium enough to cool the cpu

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HXFpZc if you’re overspending at minimum get this

[gentle pollen]

Does it support two fans or is that using clips?

[rare plover]

Only one i think

[gentle pollen]

I wouldn't trust it then. Not unless you want the 5700x thermal throttling at 95c.

[fallen sphinx]

Also you do realize you’re gonna give your brother a shitty pc with a 4060ti right

[rare plover]

then I should keep my fathers i7 7700 with a stock cooler out of this conversation

[rare plover]

What about noctua

Is an Nh-u12s good

[icy crater]

Me sitting with my rx590

[gentle pollen]

https://share.google/images/5EdLNBmK3lRkPfb8k

[icy crater]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[rare plover]

this looks like enough

[gentle pollen]

Try to find a dual tower cooler.

They look like this.

[rare plover]

i found this

be quiet! PURE ROCK PRO 3 Silver

[gentle pollen]

Yeah this should work

Those are decent

[rare plover]

do the fans connect together to 1 pwm connection

[gentle pollen]

Not always.

[rare plover]

i think i need a hub or splitter cus its an matx board and the case has 5 built in fans with no hub

[gentle pollen]

The board will have plenty of fan headers though

[rare plover]

2 pwm and 1 cpu fan i think

[gentle pollen]

Try to confirm that

I gotta go now

[fallen sphinx]

@stuck abyss

[gentle pollen]

Best of luck to you and happy hanukkah.

[rare plover]

this is the board

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550M-GAMING-X-WIFI6#kf

i cant find fan header amount but maybe you can

[rare plover]

you too man

yep

probably gonna need a splitter

[hollow gulch]

It will come with one

The cooler

[icy crater]

Are pcs able to be used to connect to the TV and play like consoles with multiple controllers?

[crimson zinc]

I’d assume so

[rare plover]

As in split screen?

[icy crater]

Yee like how many people can play minecraft at a time

Or like shared in overcooked

I heard apparently there's like a steam os thing I'm trying to look into that rn

[rare plover]

Linux distro i think

[stuck abyss]

@fallen sphinx

https://www.newegg.com/cyberpowerpc-gaming-desktop-pc-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-32gb-ddr5-2tb-nvme-ssd-gm70929-black/p/N82E16883230895?Item=N82E16883230895

Whats your recommendation?

[fallen sphinx]

ew no

[stuck abyss]

Its $200 cheaper, + Prebuilt

[stuck abyss]

Its the exact same as the pc part picker?

[fallen sphinx]

its cyberpower

[stuck abyss]

except its a 9070 XT

[fallen sphinx]

theyre gonna cut corners

[stuck abyss]

Ahhh, me and a bunch of people are talking. Prebuilts are cheaper than building it yourself

rn

[fallen sphinx]

not this

[stuck abyss]

Any recommendations on prebuilts?

[fallen sphinx]

ebay

[stuck abyss]

Ebay???

HUH

[fallen sphinx]

yes?

refurbished prebuilts

[stuck abyss]

no like a new one

[fallen sphinx]

build your own at that point

[stuck abyss]

whats the intel equivelent to Ryzen 9 9800x3d?

if you know

[fallen sphinx]

none

[stuck abyss]

brother

[fallen sphinx]

there is no intel cpu better than or even close to a 9800x3d

7800x3d either

[stuck abyss]

ok

[stuck abyss]

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-gaming-desktop-pcs-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-32gb-ddr5-2tb-nvme-ssd-st-azure3-1747-w-al-white/p/3D5-000Z-002C5?Item=9SIA1HJKEB5307

What about dis

[fallen sphinx]

2k???

no

[stuck abyss]

I dont know if I should just built my own or a prebuilt

cuz of ram prices

am confused

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GYrLv4 with a 9800x3d its 1800 and gonna be not cyberpower

[snow dragon]

Cyberfart

[stuck abyss]

I remember buying a Cyber PC at walmart for 50% off

[stuck abyss]

perfect thanks unc

[fallen sphinx]

ok

[snow dragon]

When my brother got a prebuilt 4 years ago he also got lucky

[stuck abyss]

my local walmart was shutting down

[snow dragon]

And he got lucky again with this micro center prebuilt

[stuck abyss]

I also got a 4060ti for $200 like 1-2 years ago

[fallen sphinx]

my friend did that too and got utter crap

[stuck abyss]

I sold it for a profit lol and then built my current pc

[snow dragon]

[jolly dune]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7n6xyW#compatibility_notes

friend wants a pc, thats the build rn but hes wanting something more future proof to run games for longer amounts of time incase of big updates etc. would that do fine

budget of like 1k +/- a little bit

[stuck abyss]

If you want to future proof you got to take out the DDR4

That is a requirement

but DDR5 prices are way to expensive

budget is going to go more than 1k

[jolly dune]

any possible way or would that be his best option

[weary galleon]

Best option right now is to stick with what he has

[jolly dune]

alr im tryna just help him out hes new to all this and I aint the very best

[weary galleon]

Could keep an eye out for a reasonably priced 5700x3d but moving to am5/ddr5 rn is too expensive

[jolly dune]

like ive got a good build i built for under 1k but due to prices so cant help him

[weary galleon]

Oh wait is that list his current PC? Or is he planning a new build?

[jolly dune]

for reference this is my build, ram has went up about £300, gpu about £120 and ssd about 50 https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LwfDXR

[jolly dune]

thats what hes planning in getting

its his first pc

[weary galleon]

Ohhh I misread sorry

[jolly dune]

trying to make him something somewhat futureproof

so he doesnt have to worry about upgrading so soon etc

[fallen sphinx]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hWtsRV

I would try to get this

[jolly dune]

dang looks better than mine icl😭

[fallen sphinx]

Yours is better

Better cpu, very similar gpu, better like everything else

[jolly dune]

I see

[weary galleon]

Here's mine. Pretty much the same parts. Better cooler and PSU but cheaper case

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TgnCsp

[gloomy thorn]

Oh snap. I cant send a video in here for some reason

[weary galleon]

Gotta level up by chatting a little in order to send pics

[fallen sphinx]

Yeah that’s better

[weary galleon]

You can use imgur or DM me the pic and I'll forward it here

[gloomy thorn]

Okay ill do that now. Thank you

Or i guess I could upload to youtube real quick and give a link since it's a video. One sec

[jolly dune]

looks quite good

[fallen sphinx]

However I would get the swift oc

For the gpu model

Same price and better

[gloomy thorn]

Reposting this now that i can show a video: I have a Lancool 205 mesh c case and an lt520 aio. This is my first build and I don't know my options for the fan and radiator placement. I see videos on youtube that most people use the top or front of the case. But here's what the top of the case looks like.

https://youtube.com/shorts/waA1o2h7elA?si=4tOuvvnaZo5vmuOt

And here's what the front of the case looks like

https://youtube.com/shorts/2_fDYe5wzv4?si=OQKhfAZl3H4bulhx

I'm confused on what to do for radiator and fan placement.

[fallen sphinx]

This is the top

[gloomy thorn]

Right

[fallen sphinx]

How many fans are on your AIO

[gloomy thorn]

2

[fallen sphinx]

240mm right?

Yeah take off the panel outside the case on top and screw in the radiator

[gloomy thorn]

Okay trying it now

[snow dragon]

[icy crater]

Anyone familiar with sff builds?

Also is 16gb ram ok for gaming?

I know this question is asked alot but I want some more opinions on it.

[icy hull]

16 is generally fine. There will be some games where it holds you back a bit and that's getting more common.

[icy crater]

🫡

[rare plover]

Can am4 cpus handle 4 ram sticks

Specifically the 5700x

[weary galleon]

Yeah as long as they've got matching speed & timings

Actually it probably works with mismatched sticks, just not well

[rare plover]

assuming every stick is identical specs wise and comes from the same manufacturer, would 2x8 perform faster, slower or similar to 4x8?

[weary galleon]

Well obviously 4x8 is gonna be twice the capacity which will help in some scenarios

But the difference between dual channel and quad channel depends on the CPU and motherboard

Quad channel is more load on the CPU memory controller

[weary galleon]

So if you asked 2x16 vs 4x8 I would say 2x16 for sure

[rare plover]

yea ik

[rare plover]

5700x and b550

[weary galleon]

Depends on what ram speeds and timings you're going for too

[rare plover]

are these two fine for day to day use

[weary galleon]

Basically the added load on the CPU memory controller sometimes means you cant run the ram quite as fast as you could with 2 sticks

[rare plover]

is more sticks like

uh

nvm

32gb is too much i think

[weary galleon]

You could probably run 4x8 3200cl16. There's a chance you would need to run it at 3000cl16 / 3200cl18 / increase the voltage slightly

[rare plover]

is 3600 cl18 worse than 3200 cl16

[weary galleon]

Pretty much identical

https://www.techpowerup.com/dram-latency/#n:3200:16,36,36,76|n:3600:18,36,36,76

[rare plover]

like between getting a 2 pack or 2 singles whats better here

[weary galleon]

Probably doesn't matter since you're getting 2 identical sticks either way

The 2 pack might be slightly better bet but idk

[rare plover]

alr thanks

[rare plover]

if i want to get more ram later i should either get the same kit or a 2x16 kit, right?

[weary galleon]

Yes ideally

You can technically get a different kit and set the timings to be the same but I believe it's reccomended to get identical sticks

[rare plover]

ok thanks

[rare plover]

wait the ram is xmp only

i should find one with expo right

they dont have any ddr4 with expo damn

wait nvm

[obsidian wigeon]

expo = xmp

[rare plover]

Hi foxy, do you know how “RGB fixed mode” fans work? Are they like DC fans with leds?

https://www.antec.com/documents/product/case-VCX100M_RGB_Elite_Flyer_EN _250212.pdf

Specifically on this case

[frigid edge]

with ddr4 they can all be different brands lol

so long as the speed, capacity, and cl ratings are equal

[icy crater]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8hRbNz

Yall does this look alright for a build?

[stuck abyss]

me and another uy were just talking. You can get a better prebuilt for the same price

#graphics-cards message

Just my suggestion

especially with memory prices 3xing and storage 2xing

Prebuilts are cheaper

If you have a local costco they are running really good deals

[icy crater]

Ahh thank you but I really want a sff 😭

It's fine it'll just be a little tax

Yeah costco has a really good for 1500!

I think same specs as that one you listed

[snow dragon]

What do you need the sn850x for

[stuck abyss]

totally up to you. Ive been researching and found out prebuilts are $300 cheaper

Microcenter has Crazy deals

lol

[icy crater]

Oh it's just cause the person I was talking to was selling it

Yeah they are pretty crazy rn haha

I do want to save but I've been dying to build a sff 😭

[snow dragon]

The gamestop nvme is 150 for 2 terabytes

[stuck abyss]

one quick question is whats your max budget

[snow dragon]

1500 was big dogs limit

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cr9Q8Q

[stuck abyss]

I would STRONGLY

recommend changing it

PSU is a C Tier

[snow dragon]

[stuck abyss]

I would do something like this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/svwXC8

[icy crater]

Around ~1000 but willing to go up to like 1500 due to ssd and ram stuffs

Ahh I will probably stick to 7700 it's in a bundle with my mb and cpu fan cooler 😭

[stuck abyss]

microcenter?

[snow dragon]

Oh ok

What you should do is include them but make the other two have no price

Make one of them the bundle price

So you can see the true price of everything

[snow dragon]

https://hwbusters.com/psus/montech-century-ii-1200w-atx-v3-1-psu-review/11/

[stuck abyss]

It depends on the year and wattage

but PSU tier list I think is very accurate

Has it exactly named as a C tier low end for 850W

[icy hull]

You're missing the II part.

[snow dragon]

Pretty sure it is talking about the older one

[stuck abyss]

I did not check for the II

My fault

[icy hull]

The ltt/cultists one hasn't been updated in like 2 years so it's probably not on there anyway.

[stuck abyss]

PSU tier list didnt have II listed anyways

[icy hull]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=931697732#gid=931697732

Or just check primary sources on cybenetics/hardware busters or ltt videos.

[stuck abyss]

@icy crater

If you wanted too

save money

HardwareSwap

I can dm you an invite

and buy used

[icy crater]

It's msi

https://us-store.msi.com/Motherboards/AMD-Platform-Motherboard/AMD-B650/PRO-B650M-A-WIFI-7700

[stuck abyss]

No microcenter close by correct?

[icy crater]

Sorry I was just confirming with the person I was going to buy ram and ssd from

I think I did it! I'm good to start my build

Just need to figure out my psu

[stuck abyss]

def use this

I would future proof it

so like 850 W

[icy crater]

Was looking Thermaltake GF1 (2024)

Or Montech Century II the one originally

Are you building too rn ice bear?

[icy crater]

No there is

But no microatx bundles there

[stuck abyss]

I myself am buying a prebuilt from microcenter. Since building it will cost $500 more

[stuck abyss]

Ahh ok

[icy crater]

Which one are you choosing?

[stuck abyss]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/698879/powerspec-g758-gaming-pc?storeid=101

[icy crater]

Dang! That's fancy

5070ti whoaa

[stuck abyss]

It is. Its about 2.3k to build

[icy crater]

😭

[stuck abyss]

and microcenter has it for $400-$500 off

[icy crater]

That's really good

2 tb ssd too wow

You are set for rammagedon!

[stuck abyss]

def, if your set on building it go for it. If you are ok with not building it. I would do a prebuilt from microcenter

[stuck abyss]

Prebuilts buy stroage and memory for a lot cheaper

[icy crater]

I will probably be building it I already agreed with the person I'm buying from

He's really nice, he will even walk me through how to build it 😭

[stuck abyss]

I had to rebuilt my pc twice when I first started 😭

It was a pain

[icy crater]

That's true but it's good to never have to upgrade anymore haha

2tb and 32gb ram is good for 30 more years

Actually don't quote me on that

[icy crater]

Oh man my friend mostly helped build mine we had like minor problems but ngl sometimes it be bugging so I feel like we didn't do it right

[stuck abyss]

If I had a suggestion for you is to buy zip ties for better wire management, and to 100% make sure you use all of the screws for your mobo to case

[icy crater]

Got it will look into some zipties

[stuck abyss]

I myself prefer to make a clean build from the back wiring to the front

and try to either hide it or keep them organized all together

astetically pleasing and not having wiring everywhere yk

[icy crater]

Yeah I prefer that too

Hopefully it won't be too much work

Gosh I was so close to getting a ncase m2 lol but I think that path would have been way too expensive looking back at it

[gentle pollen]

"2tb and 32gb ram is good for 30 more years".

@icy crater another bit of advice is take your time to do things right.

[rare plover]

Hello everyone

30 years ago 16 megabytes of ram was a luxury so uhhhh

[rare plover]

Good morning alphaAI, have you eaten any sufganyot this week

[gentle pollen]

Yes!

Had some at Chabad.

[rare plover]

Very nice

[gentle pollen]

And lodkas at our friends place.

[rare plover]

I didn’t eat any of those but since the topic is fried food I improvised with air fried frozen schnitzel and fries

[gentle pollen]

I see.

Veal or Lamb*

[rare plover]

chicken

[gentle pollen]

Gotcha. I miss a good Lamb Schnitzel.

[rare plover]

anyways time to go gym and hope me and my father order the pc this weekend

[gentle pollen]

My father remembers when KB was a luxury.

[rare plover]

Mine as well i think

[gentle pollen]

Have a good one! Best of luck and take your time. I can provide tips of you need any when building the PC.

[rare plover]

Afaik TMS is building it

[gentle pollen]

I don't work on Shabbat but I am online to help folks.

[rare plover]

We will install the gpu when we go to take the pc

[gentle pollen]

Gotcha.

I recommend installing windows yourself over paying someone else to do it if you have a USB stick available that's 8GB or greater in capacity.

[rare plover]

Just hope nobody snatches it before we do

[rare plover]

I have an old nvme from my laptop, do you think it will work?

[gentle pollen]

Still need a USB stick to install windows.

[rare plover]

it has windows on it but idk if it will work because im told sometimes the windows key is connected to the motherboard

[gentle pollen]

You can transfer a nvme with windows but not recommended in this case since your completely changing platforms.

[rare plover]

What if i install it on my current pc, wipe it, and download windows 11 on that nvme

[gentle pollen]

It worked for me when I took the SSD out of my laptop and plugged it into my PC. If you try this approach, immediately hard reset windows once setup just so you have a clean slate

[rare plover]

Is this even an m2

I really dont know

[gentle pollen]

If it currently has Windows you should be able to just plug the NVMe into the PC. You will have driver issues but a factory reset will solve the mismatches. From there install the drivers you need.

[rare plover]

How can i plug it in without the ssd overwriting the pc’s main OS

[gentle pollen]

Are you trying to transfer the NVMe into a PC that already has Windows installed on a different drive?

[rare plover]

I am thinking of wiping it and installing a fresh copy of windows

[gentle pollen]

Are you going to install using a USB stick (highly recommended)?

[rare plover]

on the current nvme, and then it’s already preinstalled when i put it in the new pc, no?

[obsidian wigeon]

windows can work without a key

especially if it's win 10+

it'll just have a watermark

and limited features

[gentle pollen]

Most PC Shops charge an additional fee to setup windows for you so I'd assume the PC won't have it.

[rare plover]

Yes i am aware

[obsidian wigeon]

there's a way to activate windows which i can't mention here

[gentle pollen]

Should be able to just transfer the NVMe with windows to the PC, boot into it and then do a factory reset on the PC.

[rare plover]

But i currently have a 512 gb nvme(?) that i want to wipe, install a copy of windows and use that on the new pv

alright

[rare plover]

Can you check the image to clarify if its an m2 because i dont know

[gentle pollen]

Looks like it.

Same notches

[rare plover]

Alright

It already has win11 and a couple of games

[gentle pollen]

If the PC does come with windows, you can change which drive it boots into by going into BIOS -> BOOT ORDER

[rare plover]

They install it if you choose which i didnt

[gentle pollen]

Then your clear.

Plug in your drive with windows and do a full reset once your in.

[rare plover]

So if i connect it to my old pc, boot with it and the main storage disconnected from the pc it, and it works fine i should do a reset

[gentle pollen]

Old PC?

[rare plover]

yes

[rare plover]

the one i have in my father’s house currently

Im getting a new one

[gentle pollen]

The drive with windows, are you putting it in the new PC or the one that will be your father's?

[rare plover]

New pc. Old one has an hdd and ssd as of now

[gentle pollen]

Gotcha

Yes, plug the drive (with windows) into the PC with all other drives disconnected. If it works, do a full reset then plug and other drives back into the PC.

[rare plover]

Already

[rare plover]

A full reset will delete everything that isn’t related to the os, right?

[gentle pollen]

If it doesn't work, get a USB stick and install Windows the usual way.

[gentle pollen]

Correct.

It resets the os and deleted the files.

If it gives you the option to keep/restore files, say no.

[rare plover]

Alright

[gentle pollen]

Best of luck.

To bed I go.

[rare plover]

Should i preinstall drivers?

[gentle pollen]

No.

[rare plover]

On that drive

Okay

[gentle pollen]

Install drivers after reset.

[rare plover]

Will there be no issues with the nvme during wipe since it has no drivers

[gentle pollen]

No issues.

[icy crater]

😭

[rare plover]

Alright

So the mb has 2 m2 slots

3.0 and 4.0

[icy crater]

🫡

[rare plover]

Is it possible to know which generation that ssd is

[icy crater]

As in building the pc?

[gentle pollen]

Lookup the SSD name and it will be listed in the specs.

[rare plover]

Since if its gen 3 theres no reason to plug it into the gen 4 m.2 right

[gentle pollen]

Bingo.

[gentle pollen]

Yes.

Have fun kiddos.

[rare plover]

Gen 3x4

And the 1tb is gen 4

so the boot drive should be in the gen 3 and the 1tb that comes with the pc in the gen 4

[icy crater]

Good morning

I just wanted to check something about my new build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K3KgDj

Is the motherboard ok? I think it is 310 for the 7 7700 + b650 msi + msi cpu cooler but I was reading the specs for the motherboard

And saw it did not have usb gen 3.2 2x2

Should I be trying to get a board that has it or is this board ok for my build? Also is the cpu + gpu a good combo with the ram? Does all the parts complement each other? No issues with ram and motherboard?

[violet sentinel]

Hey yall

I moved my pc to another room

And now it wont turn on AT ALL

[fallen sphinx]

It’s a top end board

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NpWLv4

[gentle pollen]

Unless you are into overclocking any B-50/X-70 board is more than enough for a 7700.

[icy hull]

Neither does the case so that doesn't matter. Or do you mean a 20gbps on the rear? It doesn't even have a type c at all. It's a fine board and plenty capable of handling a 7700 like AlphaAI said. Definitely not top end though, it's like borderline between budget and midrange but, unless there is some specific upgraded feature you actually care about, that's fine.
Do you need a 20gbps usb for an external drive or something?

[strong knoll]

can someone help me w a pc part picker list

$800 budget

[icy crater]

Gotcha, yeah back does not have usbc but the d32 pro I saw had one in the front.

I have an external hdd or ssd I forgot which, I was planning on plugging into it, was just wondering if it would matter for speeds

It's fine I'm willing to compromise

What about for smaller cooling fans, how many can I get for my build? I realized there was no fans included and am trying to decipher which connectors from mb are able to be used for fans

[rare plover]

Hi so i bought the gpu, but my father said he thinks its better to get a 5700g instead of a 5700x, even tho theres a performance downgrade because if theres a problem with either the gpu or something else i can check to see if the cpu is giving video output when the gpu isnt, what do you think?

[gentle pollen]

Get the 5700x. The 5700G performs much worse and if there is an issue with the GPU, you will know because it's not displaying. Also it's very cheap to buy like GT710 or some other ancient GPU for those types of tests. I bought one for $10 new.

5700G also only has half the cache of the 5700X so you will have a lot more stutters in games.

[rare plover]

so better with the 5700x and buy some third party or old gpu for like 200 shek

[gentle pollen]

Bingo

Much better to get a 5700x.

[rare plover]

GT730

[rare plover]

and all i need to see is if theres video, then i remove the gpu and go to service?

can this shi run off the motherboard power

if i go to some call center what are the odds of finding a gpu in their dumpster

[icy hull]

Depends what you end up going with for a cooler. If you have an aio just using that as the exhaust works and there might or might not be room for fans or slim fans under the GPU. Or just let the GPU be the intake since it's so close to the bottom.

[gentle pollen]

Mine does.

[gentle pollen]

Very unlikely.

[icy crater]

Going to be the MAG COREFROZR AA13

Oh man I got upsold on a powercolor 9070xt reaper idk how I feel about this

They didnt have the 9060xt I was looking at or the 9070.. so they told me I should get an open box rx 9070xt since it was only 20 bucks more.

[fallen sphinx]

you have 1500 but want to get a 9060xt? huh?

[icy crater]

Can go up to 1500 but don't necessarily want to 😭

I was thinking about how much monitors will be and mouse and keyboard

[snow dragon]

Well

Coming from a 590

9060 xt is huge

[snow dragon]

plus tax

[icy crater]

Yeah anything is an upgrade haven't gamed anything in a while

[wheat zealot]

first intel CPU

[gentle pollen]

Neat budget choice. Why the CPU when you have a 7600x?

The 4 extra threads?

[wheat zealot]

Not for me, will eventually put it in another build to sell. I never built with intel before though so abit timid.

[gentle pollen]

Gotcha.

[clear scaffold]

ive been summoned

[rare plover]

Hi

Plungeremoji

[chrome gale]

Hey yall, I am starting to get parts for a new PC, and ill list what I know I am slapping into her atm:
4TB SSD (Samsung) NVME
1000W power supply
Either 5070 or 5070TI (i need it to run a program and atm a simalar computer runs said program with a 4060 TI W/16GB VRAM, and its a little below what I would prefer so at least wanna go with a 5070 for it)

I am not sure what I am doing with RAM atm as the price is... well crazy lol

Probally going with a AMD series CPU... probally the Ryzen 9 9950X

Any recommendations on a motherboard? Also how are yall dealing with the current RAM shortage?

Or should I just wait will RAM prices go down a bit?

[chrome gale]

Aren't intel CPUs a little risky still?

[wheat zealot]

that was the 13 & 14 gen cpus but it’s apparently fixed now.

[wheat zealot]

Newegg does free 16gb ram with a motherboard occasionally. I would wait for that tbh.

[chrome gale]

Knowing this should I go with intel or AMD? It is a work PC. All the other work PCs in the office are AMDs.

Also what makes a good Motherboard?

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/39J9h7 this is what I’d say, but what’s your budget

Expensive but really good, also the only 4tb Samsung drive is the 990 pro and this is much better at only 30$ more