building-and-recc-chat

[crimson zinc]

I’ll do it

[snow dragon]

wtf happened to ram prices

oh right

two weeks ago the dram mafia came together and said prices will go up

which games

[abstract hearth]

probably 1440

sorry for the late replies

[abstract hearth]

like steam games

rivals, roblox , cyberpunk maybe

[fallen sphinx]

USA?

[abstract hearth]

Yes

[fallen sphinx]

whats your budgt and do you need stuff other than the pc

[abstract hearth]

1.8k to 2k and uhh probably just a better monitor

i have an asus gaming 120hz

[fallen sphinx]

black or white build

[abstract hearth]

white for sure

[fallen sphinx]

fishtank?

[abstract hearth]

as in sife covers ?

side

[fallen sphinx]

the front is glass ina fish tank

like rhis

actually more like this

[abstract hearth]

oh yes

líen li cade no ?

líen li

lion

LMAO

[fallen sphinx]

yeah

[abstract hearth]

yes that type

[fallen sphinx]

do you want a reallly good monitor

[abstract hearth]

i just want a decent one

120hz

uhh supports hdr maybe

[fallen sphinx]

i mean you can afford a really good one

[abstract hearth]

probably a samsung i don’t know which one tho

[fallen sphinx]

model>brand

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QxMQrM heres with a decent one

[snow dragon]

Looks like prices are back to the march release

Rather

The week after release

Looks like we will wait a year after release for actual msrp cards

[fallen sphinx]

there is a below msrp one

its just not white

[snow dragon]

Where

Cheapest on pcpp was 605 asus prime

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rGPv6h/powercolor-hellhound-oc-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx9070xt-16g-loc

wait

msrp was 600

[snow dragon]

That is out of stock but the owercolor was 630

[fallen sphinx]

i kinda forget about that

[fallen sphinx]

no its in stock

[snow dragon]

I think this is what amd wanted but I be schizo like that

[snow dragon]

Powercolor is yeah

I meant the prime

[fallen sphinx]

high end card asw

[snow dragon]

Yeah powercolor is great

Sapphire, xfx, powercolor

[frigid edge]

gunnir better

gunnir is like

the asus of arc cards

photon like strix or astral

[zenith cargo]

6900xt

it wouldn't get this hot before

Temps dropped like 5-10c when I first installed these fans under it

then I was getting bsods, crashes, and errors

installed windows freshly not even that long ago

beginning of september

wdym bad mounting?

how can you poorly mount it?

pins not being pushed in all the way?

[snow dragon]

like if there was a repaste and the remount wasnt good

maybe the heatsink is not screwed in enough or one side more than the other or something

if not that then the paste is old

given that it is a 6000 series card it probably has paste on it and is dried up

[zenith cargo]

my reg gpu temp is 80-85

[zenith cargo]

yea thats what I was thinking

[snow dragon]

has that always been the temp

[zenith cargo]

yea

[snow dragon]

nice

[zenith cargo]

👍

I'll prob just trade it for a 9070xt even it means 10-30% increase

[zealous moth]

AHHHHHHHHH

wait what

sorry

[zealous moth]

a 5070 for 590 or a 9070 for 525 dollars

for 1440P

and a 7700

[snow dragon]

9070

because it is faster while also being cheaper

it performs the same in rt but is faster without it while also having more vram

and if you care about video editing or encoding, it also has two encode/decode engines

@zealous moth

[frigid edge]

9070

like he said

[zealous moth]

Alr

Was just double checking

[pearl gulch]

Say my entire life has been about having a desktop, but I'm warming up to the idea of a laptop and may want additional capabilities out of it...
Need to use it for travel-gaming, maybe will poke around with self hosting AI for lightweight projects while I teach myself (still learning foundationals), and will possibly be online 24/7 (so it would be nice to be able to remove the battery, leave it plugged into an outlet, and still retain power to make the battery last longer).

I know I'm probably asking for too much.... but if I can get 75% of the way there, I'll probably take it. I just don't know jack about non-business laptops.

I know I need to go nvidia for the GPU, but mostly because I was told they got the leg up. Not sure if I need to get a specific series, yet.

pretty sure I'm going to order something and not build it. probably going to find something I can just have shipped. have a month to try to get one.

[zealous moth]

Why do you NEED nvidia

Explain to me your reasoning

Oh nvm laptop

Sorry

[pearl gulch]

it wasn't fully explained to me though

i just was told they have the upper hand for AI

[zealous moth]

hmm

yes and no

your doing low AI

[mental hazel]

laptop for AI is mega cursed. strix halo is the only option that kinda works okay besides like 5090/4090 laptop because of vram constraints

[rare plover]

@obsidian wigeon between these 2 which would you say is better:
https://a.co/d/ds8vXy7
https://a.co/d/hnZl9y0

srry for the ping iirc ur the laptop expert here

[obsidian wigeon]

the legion is by far the better one

[rare plover]

wait wrong one

[rare plover]

legion meant to be 5070 + i7 13650hx

[obsidian wigeon]

13650hx..

[rare plover]

couldnt find on amazon

https://ksp.co.il/web/item/392527

[obsidian wigeon]

then the tuf is faster

it'll also run cooler as well

[rare plover]

ok

[rare plover]

is the asus cooling system good?

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

i have a 2023 variant

the 2025 variant is even better

[rare plover]

That one is the 2025 variant?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeup

well it has 50 series gpu

so it is indeed a 2025 release

[rare plover]

Oh right

Mb

[rare plover]

would work ok for a makeshift desktop?

Does it cool better when open

[obsidian wigeon]

it haven't been reviewed yet

but i'd recc keeping the lid open

but turn the screen off if you wanna run it like a desktop

[rare plover]

Can i have it like on the side as a secondary monitor

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[zealous moth]

What is the best 1440P GPU under 660 USD
includes last gen

and

[mental hazel]

9070 xt, 9070 is usually better value tho and not much weaker at all

[zealous moth]

what if i can't acsess both of em for that price

[frigid edge]

then try 5070

[zealous moth]

na 7900GRE trust

well

idk

i'm tired

lmao

[fallen sphinx]

9070xt

[zealous moth]

i'm not geting a gpu till December

So yeah

B770 trust

[mental hazel]

see what's available in 2 months when ur actually shopping lol

[fallen sphinx]

Then wait till then

[raw sparrow]

Hey so i just did a build but it starts and then shuts down within 1 minute it also does light sequence. Of
cpu red
Vga white
Ram yellow

Ive re seated everything double checked cables and yet it still won't stay on or anything any ideas on what it could be ?

[stoic island]

Does it stick on ram or does it get to boot/storage then turn off?

[raw sparrow]

It trys to go to boot but then doesnt

@stoic island

[stoic island]

Have a part list?

[frigid edge]

looks like it fails after a ram error

try only putting one stick in all the slots

and try booting with one in one slot each time

[manic cloak]

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/396/1673491242/F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5

Would I be able to use this ram for my 13600k?

Finally upgrading to ddr5 ✌️

[stoic island]

Make sure to get a ddr5 board, and yea

[manic cloak]

ofc ofc

It just says designed for AMD platforms

But I doubt there’s any harsh downsides

[stoic island]

Expo just has some very slightly different timings

Practically works the same

[frigid edge]

youll be fine

what motherboard do you have, z690 or z790?

eh either one it should be fine with a 13600k

i personally run 2x16 6000 on my 13400f and i have a z690

[frigid edge]

what in the scammer

[manic cloak]

Z790 yeah

[languid nimbus]

[tough ermine]

If I have a 5600 and a 6650XT what GPU would be a worthwhile upgrade?

[mental hazel]

realistically save up and upgrade your 5600 at the same time

[frigid edge]

9060XT 16gb

But you should also try to upgrade cpu to a 5800X3D or something, or maybe even upgrade to AM5 but that would require new cpu, ram, and motherboard

[cerulean portal]

Hey, I bought the antec flux pro case, & the motherboard I'm thinking about getting is the "ASUS ROG STRIX X870-A GAMING WIFI".

The case has 3x140 front fans + 1x140 rear fan + 2x120 bottom fans.

I got an "Arctic liquid freezer III pro 420 AIO" I'll mount on top.

That has 3x140 fans + the pump header fan.

So this is all 9 fans + the aio pump header fan.

Y'all, how many fan connectors does my motherboard need? 😆

Does the "ASUS ROG STRIX X870-A GAMING WIFI" have enough? 😅

[stoic island]

The mobo has 5+3 fan headers, so you could just get a singular splitter and figure out where you want to route everything, but it's going to be easiest with a simple sata powered fan controller

[cerulean portal]

What does 5+3 mean exactly? Are some differently rated or something?

[stoic island]

5 Chassis fan headers, 1 labeled for pump, 1 labeled for cpu cooler, 1 labeled for cpu opt

All of them are 1a, they're just going to be under different fan curve settings in bios

[cerulean portal]

Gotchya. Thank you

[stoic island]

I will say that mobo is pretty overkill in general though lol

[cerulean portal]

I feel like splitting the bottom two 120's might be fine

[cerulean portal]

Yaaa XD I know. I'm planning video work with a 5th gen m.2 for the sequential speeds & want a lot of usb connectors for flight & racing sim stuff basically 😅

[stoic island]

I mean the way that would make the most sense is grabbing a 3-1 splitter for the aio fans so you can have it all under the same cpu cooler header

[stoic island]

I mean you get gen 5 m.2 slots on b650 even

And what are you going to use it for? basically nothing can really make use of gen 5 seq speeds over gen 4 lol

[cerulean portal]

I already got a crazy deal on a 4tb 5th gen m.2 😆 I'll be streaming & playing intensive sim games mostly. Looking to get a capture card to make videos at some point.

I did do some competition stuff in the past, but on gpu focused games

Not a big consideration

[stoic island]

I mean, unless you're working with like 30min+ raw 4k files, it's not going to make a noticeable difference between gen 4 and gen 5 seq speeds, especially since you'd run out of pslc anyways if you're working with files that big lol

If you already have it and can't return it, it has a very slight advantage, but in my opinion, it's a waste of money going for gen 5 over gen 4

[cerulean portal]

Anyways, I found the mobo on Amazon with 30 dollar discount. Plus there's 5% student cashback & 3% amazon card cashback...soooooo girl math says that's $240 with new york's 8% tax compensated for? 😅

Ehhhh, idk. I know my m.2 said it was SLC, but I've not heard of pSLC

[stoic island]

I just hope that you also consider a cheaper board that would have most of the relevant features lol

[cerulean portal]

I'm nervous about asrock boards with all the 9000 series issues reported.

[stoic island]

pSLC is just pseudo SLC, it's running nand that's natively TLC in a SLC mode that's faster but can store less, basically all modern SSDs use a pslc cache, the name and how its described can be different though

[cerulean portal]

Heard of some issues with gigabyte/aurus too now?

[stoic island]

Yea I'd still avoid asrock for the time being until they give a better explanation

[stoic island]

What issues?

[cerulean portal]

I need to look into it more, but I guess they just have some reputation for cheaper parts and I'd heard briefly of some sort of issues.

[stoic island]

I'd argue Asus has a far worse reputation when it comes to warranty lol

[cerulean portal]

Not so bog a concern as asrock. Just heard something a while ago

[cerulean portal]

Definitely good to know

[stoic island]

Anyways one other option is going down to b650 and then getting an extra pcie usb card later on, another is a cheaper x870 board, x870-a isn't a bad board, just a bit expensive

[cerulean portal]

I will pay tripple for everything to be white however 😆

Half joking 😅

[stoic island]

(it can still be white lol https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F25ML4CK)

just other options

[cerulean portal]

God I hate the product pages for these things. Just give me the list of crap. Lol

*Searches for audio codec info like it's the holy grail

[stoic island]

If you care enough about the audio codec, you should have enough gear to make it not an issue lol

[cerulean portal]

I may also play the instruments, & be looking for a dac

[stoic island]

You should use an external dac either way

[cerulean portal]

Have not chosen yet though & will probably use board audio for a while is all

I am picky...kinda want to save for one in particular

Lol

[stoic island]

Just save some money on the board and buy a 2i2 or something lol

[cerulean portal]

Nahhhh, i need more than a 2i2 unfortunately 😅

I mayyyyyy be selling my old keyboard too & upgrading with a slimmer model & putting it on a custom pull-out under desk tray

We'll see...

[cerulean portal]

Ehhhhh, thinking about a thermal grizzly contact frame

They void mobo waranty though right?

[stoic island]

As long as you keep the original mounting mechanism and return it with the original mechanism, not really

[zenith cargo]

wtf, my heating issue went away after a bios update

my gpu hotspot floats around 75c to 85c now

[zenith cargo]

bruh

[zealous moth]

So chat

I can have a 7900GRE and 7700

or a 7900GRE with 7800X3D

how big is the peformance between 7700 and X3D

i currently think i just use the AM5 platform to my advantage

and update later

thoughts ?

[stoic island]

gonna be pretty dependent on the game

[crimson zinc]

7800x3d is pretty hard to top

[rare plover]

Enjoy the drivers

[zealous moth]

Arc graphics acts works pretty hard for driver updates so

[zealous moth]

Well the 7800X3D is going to be a 50/50 if I can get it

While I alr have the 7700

I still think I’ll just save up for a 9800X3D

Hmm

Well

As I sated I’ve go till December

So wish me luck

[spice shell]

Hi, what do you think about this setup? (After converting from my currency, it comes to around ~$2500 USD.) I’m mainly concerned about the cooling — should I go with the NZXT one for $160 or the ALF 360 for $120? I’m also wondering about the case — I could reuse my old NZXT H440, but I’m not sure if it would provide good airflow for the current hardware. If you have any other suggestions regarding this build, I’d be happy to consider them. - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g62pC8

[pearl gulch]

I remember that this year's series' of gpu's were a let down back around feb/march. Have they been updated to be not a let down by firmware/driver updates or were the issues not resolvable by updates?

Issues I recall were that they had problems with games, but were fine for business or compute purposes.

[weary galleon]

If they're available in your region get a thermalright aio

[frigid edge]

9800x3d

[frigid edge]

the best advice is dont buy overpriced nzxt stuff

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MHPM9C

and yes best to get a new case

and you shouldnt get a specific model of 5070ti when other models are at msrp, its not worth it

[snow dragon]

The 4 tb lexar mogs

Very good cache on that drive

[gentle pollen]

9950x3D

Higher frequency X3D CCD.

5.55Ghz vs 5.2Ghz

[gentle pollen]

The 4TB Lexar drives are good?

How do they compare to like a SN850X?

[snow dragon]

That’s the one that has like a third of the drive as cache right lol

I think the 1 tb has like 300 gigs

It’s not that good but it can write 6 gig/s for two minutes straight

[gentle pollen]

I don't really remember. I just recall it having been considered the best at the time so I bought the 4TB variant at $230smth because I got fed up with slow drives.

Loved it since.

[gentle pollen]

Pretty good.

[snow dragon]

Oh I was thinking of the sn770

After slc is used up then it goes to roughly 3 gig/s for a very long time

[distant mortar]

reaching out for my friend here:

if anyone is super experienced with building computers would you mind taking a look at my friends build? everything is plugged in correctly, however there seems to be a wiring issue, regarding the fans. The motherboard rgb turns on, however the fans, dont light up or spin at all, as well as the gpu fans.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xrWTKq

this is the list^

[frigid edge]

i gotchu bro

[frigid edge]

ok so the gpu is designed to not spin when its not under load

but you forgot to plug the fans in

all he needa do is go into the back and make sure he plugged everything in

[edgy flame]

good or meh if i slap a gpu later on ? https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/DhqL3w

kinda broke :)

[robust marten]

Can I send over my pc parts list this is my first one and just want to make sure I did a good job I’m wanting aesthetics but also a good gaming experience. I plays lots of ow, rivals, Minecraft, Elden ring, gta, red dead

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gQQCHW

And I’ll obviously be getting fans as well but just wanted to make sure I didn’t miss anything or do something wrong

[stoic island]

At that budget, it'll be a better idea to try to find something used

[stoic island]

I really hope you have a better price for most of those parts lol

The aio+board is >3x your CPU's price

5070ti has been a good choice recently due to the price drops, but spending $850 on a 5070ti is still a bad deal, might as well just drop down to 9070xt and get a solid white 9070xt for $700 (Still overpriced, but a little less so)

You don't have to compromise on performance to still have good aesthetics

You can grab a white thermalright aio, whichever one looks best to you, for 1/4th of the price on average

You can get a full white 6000c30 2x16gb ram kit for $100

I'd really recommend not getting the Y70 touch in general with that cost, that's $300 in savings going with practically any case lol

With the money saved, you could upgrade CPU to x3d and/or upgrade the GPU again to maybe a 5080 with recent prices for those

[edgy flame]

yeah im tryna do cheapest shit possible

[stoic island]

I mean buying parts new at <$400 is going to yield a lot less than hopping on the fbm equivalent and finding people offloading their old PC

[edgy flame]

i don't know mate, here in france it's kinda hard to find good things used (at least around my area)

[fallen sphinx]

please dont

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DhCpC8

[quartz plinth]

getting my first pc, I saw this (https://www.newegg.ca/quoted-tech-gaming-desktop-pcs-geforce-rtx-5060-amd-ryzen-5-7500f-32gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-clarity-plus/p/N82E16883984001) and i was wondering if you guys know if its upgradable in the future.

[frigid edge]

ill be honest it looks perfectly upgradable but that is HORRID for the price

you really should spend 1200 on your own parts to build one

[quartz plinth]

its CAD price and not USD, is it still bad? If so, ill try to make my own

[fallen sphinx]

That’s 1200 cad correct

[fallen sphinx]

It’s not terrible but building yourself will be a good bit better

You can get a 9060xt 16gb + 7600x pc for the same price

Wait eewwwwww it’s a b840

[quartz plinth]

:0 I dont know what those all mean T-T

[fallen sphinx]

Basically 9060xt 16gb is a lot better, and b840 sucks

[quartz plinth]

okay so for sure I should go for a custom build?

[robust marten]

Ok soooo lol I really want the hyte y70 still

[fallen sphinx]

It’s a case, it’s not worth even close to that much

Just get one that looks close

[robust marten]

No lol

[fallen sphinx]

If you really want to spend that much on it go ahead but it’s a complete waste of money

[robust marten]

So with that aside you said the graphics card is over priced which I agree

[fallen sphinx]

Everything you picked except the cpu was overpriced 😭

[robust marten]

I want a nice graphics card in white that’s not as expensive

😩

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pNYc9C if you really want that case here

[robust marten]

Lmao I want rgb for my ram and the a nice cpu cooler with the gif abilities too

😂

[fallen sphinx]

Ugh

[robust marten]

🙇🏾‍♀️

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9TFfXR

[robust marten]

lol ummm

[snow dragon]

How big is the cache on the pny

Oh about 25% of the drive

[snow dragon]

All I did was change the board to the b850 ice because the ice looks amazing
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R2fr4p

I would have gotten the ice if my system was not itx

A white power supply of the same wattage is like 40-50% more

So you can just get the montech and get some white extensions on amazon

https://a.co/d/80uFyKf or https://a.co/d/6th7pT7

[fallen sphinx]

Tbh thats not even much better than the b650e

[snow dragon]

True, but the io is great and also has wifi 7

While also in my opinion at least looking better

Up to pink tho

[robust marten]

I like both boards

lol

Would the prices on the coolers get lower during Black Friday

With in a reasonable range

I don’t mind waiting

[fallen sphinx]

the cooler is alr only like 80$ lmao

[robust marten]

It’s uglyyyy

😂

I’m very picky

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jp8Pxr/thermalright-core-vision-argb-7237-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-core-vision-360-white-argb

what about this

[robust marten]

I like that one

Ok wait can you add the lcd intake fans to that or no

[fallen sphinx]

wdym lcd fans

dont tell me youre actually going to get lcd fans...

[robust marten]

Lmaoo I was

I thought they were cute

Like these 🙇🏾‍♀️

[fallen sphinx]

you dont even wanna know how much those are

aka dont get em

[robust marten]

I saw idc lol

This is my gift to myself

[edgy flame]

should i buy 3600 or 5500 on a budget build ?

[frigid edge]

3600

[robust marten]

Is the gigabyte rtx 5060 any good?

[frigid edge]

no

get 9060xt 8gb since you're ok with 8gb, but if you can get 16gb then get that

[quartz plinth]

this is my build, I already went over budget https://newegg.io/402c202. Is there anything thats not compatible with each other or any improvements?

[edgy flame]

Aigh

Are USB dongles faster than a b450m/ac r2.0?

[zealous moth]

Montech XR or Montech XR wood

Antech C3

or Montech SKY TWO

or LIan LI 216 ARGB

[zealous moth]

My recconmandation wait for ram prices to drop also use PC part picker

[wheat zealot]

I don’t think ram is going to get any cheaper anytime soon.

[edgy flame]

Good? : https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/72RTGJ

Cheapest i could do

With wifi

And running fh5

I could lower by 2€ or more but i want 650W for future proofing and i don't want b580's overhead issued

Issues*

[edgy flame]

Yep

[fallen sphinx]

get the 9070xt

do NOT spend 400$ on a case and like 300 on a gpu

[quartz plinth]

How does this look to u guys. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/bJN6GJ

[zealous moth]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y8YdyW
How do we think of this build this a visualizer i will list of real price for me
Mobo 205 USD
Case: 55.30
Cooler: 85.75
RAM: 103 (HELL YEAH NO RAM PRICE SPIKE)
SSD:120.68 (No better choice)
GPU: unkown getting it used
total around i estimate 35000NTD or 1115 USD build with a 7700 and 7900GRE

[obsidian wigeon]

i'd spend less on the motherboard

and cooler, since the cpu doesn't need an aio

[zealous moth]

so the plan is too get a 7800X3D or Zen 6

so

[obsidian wigeon]

7800x3d doesn't run all that hot

[zealous moth]

"future proof"

[obsidian wigeon]

it only needs 88w of power to feed itself and run very fast

[zealous moth]

so peerless assiasin 120 Se it is ?

[obsidian wigeon]

future proofing is a buzzword that's thrown around way too often

[obsidian wigeon]

yes, that oughta be enough

[zealous moth]

alr

[obsidian wigeon]

or any dual fan thermalright coolers

[zealous moth]

i was feed misinformation i see

thanks

also yeah i'm going for a back connecter

[obsidian wigeon]

aio is better but it's not worth the extra cash that it demands

[zealous moth]

so yea

[obsidian wigeon]

unless you run like a 9950x3d lol

[velvet halo]

Yo can anyone help me with a pc part picker list. Looking to play competitive games tarkov, valorant, etc. 1080p. Prefer price to be $1.2-1.5k.

[obsidian wigeon]

Are you in the US?

[velvet halo]

Yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

Do you need wifi

Are peripherals included in the budget

Any certain aesthetics you're looking after?

[velvet halo]

Nah

[obsidian wigeon]

Sorry for asking a lot of questions, I have to make sure to optimize it

[velvet halo]

No i have everything already. Just need the pc

[velvet halo]

Nothing in mind, i prefer performance >rgb

[obsidian wigeon]

Perfect then

I'll cook something up for you

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4d9C74 @velvet halo check this out

[velvet halo]

Looks great, thank u so much!

[obsidian wigeon]

About what you really need for 1080p

I was throwing in a 9070xt but it went over budget

5070 for 500 is honestly pretty decent

it's 50 below msrp

[velvet halo]

Oh how much more would it have been

[obsidian wigeon]

Like about 50 over budget

[orchid sleet]

Hello everyone.

[velvet halo]

Oh yeah that's not a problem. about what % better is that compared to the 5070?

[obsidian wigeon]

9070xt is a 5070ti competitor

[velvet halo]

Ooo I seee. Thanks for all the help and info

[orchid sleet]

Anytime.

[zealous moth]

this 1080P no no no this is a Mid range 1440P Build

which is goated

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah it's honestly plenty for 1080p

It can do 1440p if desired

[zealous moth]

that's the cheapest motherbored that is white in taiwan other thenn ummmm Asrock lmao

well

i have a 7700

[obsidian wigeon]

if you have a 7700, asrock is aight

but if you want 9800x3d in the future, yeeeeah

that's a concern

[zealous moth]

7800X3D?

not sure

about that

[obsidian wigeon]

no reports of such incidents with the 7800x3d

only the 9800x3d's exploded

[mental hazel]

MSRP was shit tho

$50 more and you get a 9070 that is superior in virtually every way

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah i agree

499 is a better deal

i would've definitely gave em a 9070 if it wasn't for a 5070 going for 499

100 difference is easier to decide

[mental hazel]

9070 is $550 tho... it's a $50 difference for a wildly more capable card

not dunking you, 5070 is plenty fast. but i can't think of any reason you'd want a $500 5070 over a $550 9070

[obsidian wigeon]

fair enough

50 is making me regret the list a lil lol

[mental hazel]

i mean... there is always a return window 👀

[obsidian wigeon]

fire

[snow dragon]

I like 9070 more

Hope 5070 super makes it drop a little

[edgy flame]

I found a used pc for 290€ with a description that's actually peak 🤣 "

💻 Gaming PC – Ready to Play 🎮
• Processor: Intel Core i5-10400F (6 cores / 12 threads)
• Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
• Memory: 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Kingston Fury RGB 🌈
• Storage: 500GB SSD – Ultra-fast boot-up
• Power Supply: 450W 80+ Bronze
• Case: Sleek, well-ventilated design

⚡ Performance: Ideal for Full HD 1080p gaming, perfect for eSports (Fortnite, Valorant, CS2, Rocket League, etc.) and AAA games at high settings.

🖥️ Option: 144Hz display available for just €50 more.

📦 Ready-to-use PC: Windows installed, ready to plug in and play."

Idk if i should buy

It's just meanwhile i upgrade it by the way

Link just in case https://www.leboncoin.fr/ad/ordinateurs/3072030230

Found that for cheaper but it seems to have a 1050 2gb instead https://www.leboncoin.fr/ad/ordinateurs/3070055191

[fickle bolt]

Chatgpt aah description

[edgy flame]

Fr that's why it's laughable

[fickle bolt]

Lmao

[edgy flame]

Maybe this one? https://www.leboncoin.fr/ad/ordinateurs/3071478745

[edgy flame]

Cheesus

[edgy flame]

This one's 120€

[edgy flame]

@fickle bolt check it out will ya?

[fickle bolt]

Looks to be abt worth

[edgy flame]

Should get?

[fickle bolt]

If u want a 120 euro pc, sure

[edgy flame]

I'll upgrade it anyways at a point

Step 1 get 16 gigs instead of 8

[fickle bolt]

Can that thing even support 16g

[edgy flame]

Idk i can just swap mobo

[fickle bolt]

Yea

[bold prism]

Anyone know good quality speakers? Budget around 500

[frigid edge]

just get headphones

[plucky timber]

You might be able to get more specific help in #peripherals-and-displays

[snow dragon]

All I know are some studio monitors

I used to know more but since I never got any speakers the knowledge has left

[plucky timber]

I'm more of a headphones/iem guy sadly

[snow dragon]

I want to get the truthear hexa or pure

[sullen spoke]

I ran Kali LP-6 v2 monitors with a motu m2 driving them and it was a lovely setup for right around 500usd not including stands and cables

hmm maybe scratch that, apparently they are more expensive now (like 500usd for just the pair of monitors). There were a lot of people talking about the iLoud monitors. I think it was the iLoud Micro Monitors? their naming scheme is a little stupid

[quartz plinth]

Does someone mind looking at my first build? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/bJN6GJ

[crimson zinc]

How much is a 7500f on aliexpress for you?

[quartz plinth]

268 cad

[crimson zinc]

Ill let someone better with CAD do a help

[snow dragon]

Kind of a lot honestly

Actually that is a lot

I understand the markets are different, but that converted to usd is more than a 7600x in usa

It’s actually as much as a 9600x

[snow dragon]

Wait lol 268 is the price on pcpp

[quartz plinth]

oh mb, in ali express its 192.32 cad

[snow dragon]

Hmm

You would need a cooler with it, so that increases the price

[quartz plinth]

yeah, is 7600 not good?

[snow dragon]

They are basically the same in games

This is the same price but has ram with tighter timings and the psu has some more headroom
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/24rmXR

And a cooler

[quartz plinth]

thank you for the recommendation. Is this build still good? I'm planning on upgrading everything in the future but for now its just for casual gaming. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ghJGgn I would like to order things locally or from amazon thats why. @snow dragon

[frigid edge]

refusing Newegg in neweggs own server

[quartz plinth]

Oh I’m good with new egg, just don’t want Ali express and stuff

[frigid edge]

oh ok lol

[iron dew]

I have everything I need for my build except psu, can I build now or do I need to wait for psu

[frigid edge]

you can build everything without it but pc wont turn on

itll be giant paperweight until psu is installed

[obsidian wigeon]

Plus you will miss the chance to also make sure that all of your parts work

The first boot is the most important one

[queen elbow]

em dash spotted

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hhftv4 anything else to change with this

[frigid edge]

ill have a look

[fallen sphinx]

It doesn’t matter anymore

He’s getting a prebuilt

[frigid edge]

why r u using asrock board

[fallen sphinx]

It’s fine

[frigid edge]

how could you...

[fallen sphinx]

They don’t have issues on 7000 series

[frigid edge]

not convince him...

to build...

[fallen sphinx]

I’ve seen him mess up screwing a screw into wood

[frigid edge]

unfortuanate

[cyan plaza]

Can someone help me I have this

But where do the 2 hdd go?

[frigid edge]

uhhhh

on the back maybe

Looks like one maybe here

[cyan plaza]

😅

[frigid edge]

Yup

[cyan plaza]

Found it I took of the left plate and missed the screw holes

[frigid edge]

oh

[cyan plaza]

O ok thanks

[frigid edge]

quick Google search bro https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-prime-ap201/5.html

[frigid edge]

np

[cyan plaza]

They could have set like 1 paper and not just no instructions

Maybe I should have gotten another case

O wait I misread it..

(3) 2.5 or (1) 3.5

🤦‍♂️ people wonder why I ask for help

I'll have to return it and find a case that can hold 2 3.5 because pc parts picker might have been wrong or I mis read it

Nevermind

Found it 💀

[frigid edge]

dang

[frigid edge]

Fr

[frigid edge]

Ur good bro we only make fun of people unwilling to accept help

[cyan plaza]

I usally ask then if nothing I'll google it because some people know right away. Not everyone knows everything but I feel like I'm skipping generation with hdd going from support structure to now on the base of the case

[frigid jackal]

can anyone here help with i9-14900kf issues? I already bios updated each time it released since I got it, but I have issues with BSOD for kernel level anticheats 🥺
games like marvel rivals, valorant, and bf6 crash pc or just dont start constantly

[obsidian wigeon]

Which software do you run in the background?

Kernel anti-cheats hate programs that inject things

Like OSDs

Or even peripheral control software

[frigid jackal]

I don't run anything, nothing on startup whatsoever

the only thing would be wallpaper engine

i dont have msi afterburner either

[obsidian wigeon]

I see, hm

[frigid jackal]

just removed the softwrae for my mouse that stops it from killing itself and rivals launched finally ✌️ 😢

[obsidian wigeon]

Aha, there we go lol

Peripheral control software is finicky with them things

[analog hearth]

More overspending than buying a 5080
#build-pics message

[fallen sphinx]

dude

the MONITOR MOUNT IS 400$

depressed

that whole build is like far too much

probably got a strix 5090 too

[analog hearth]

Bro are we deadass 😭

Buy good but cheap stuff ❌
Buy garbage but expensive stuff ✅

[fickle bolt]

Wtffff

Mine was $129 used

[fallen sphinx]

yes...

[fallen sphinx]

even thats like pretty expensive

i think i made the system and it was WAYYY too much without a gpu

[fickle bolt]

It was a double

[fallen sphinx]

still

you can get good stands on amazon for like 50

[fickle bolt]

With the gas spring things?

[hybrid lynx]

is anyone able to recccomend me a good pc for $800-$900

[analog hearth]

Bro for the price of everything, he could've been smarter and purchase stuff that actually works, PLUS a 3D printer so he can print that overly expensive headphone stand

[fallen sphinx]

he couldve gotten like a used car if he didnt overspend on stupid stuff

[analog hearth]

💀

He does this every year btw

[fallen sphinx]

im not even joking

like thats close to 5k in overspending

[analog hearth]

The same type of energy as "my 5090 is outdated," stating that next year

[fallen sphinx]

no this is worse

at least youll get something out of it

with a 6090\

[fallen sphinx]

like he posts other ppls stuff right

and this is all a joke?

[analog hearth]

Nah he actually builds a whole new PC every year and only goes with overly expensive items like Corsair and Asus

[fallen sphinx]

mentally insane

hes probably overspent on stuff more than what my audi cost

[frigid edge]

Are you in the US

[analog hearth]

His justification is that he makes fat bread (he actually has a lot of money leftover from just before Bitcoin took off, according to him)

[fallen sphinx]

LMAO

LKMAO

LMAO

hahahahaa

deserved

[hybrid lynx]

indeed

[fallen sphinx]

i hate crypto bros

im so glad that crypto crashed

[frigid edge]

and are you comfortable with building it yourself

[hybrid lynx]

ya I am

[fallen sphinx]

does this include a monitor

[hybrid lynx]

nope

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qcCRrM i had this saved from yesterday so here

[hybrid lynx]

thanks

[frigid edge]

i agree with that build, solid

[fallen sphinx]

1tb is kinda

depressed

but ram pricing makes getting anymore impossible

[fickle bolt]

I thought ram was good nowadays?

[fallen sphinx]

120$ for 10ns

110$ for cl36

[snow dragon]

Fr

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q44L8Q its 5.4k with no gpu

depressed

[hybrid lynx]

I’m assuming there’s build tutorials I could follow?

like on yt

[frigid edge]

yeah, us

but yes there’s plenty on YouTube

[hybrid lynx]

alright cool

[frigid edge]

It may be better to do both, as your build will not be the same as the ones on yet

[hybrid lynx]

oh alright now just a question would there be any decent pre built options?

[frigid edge]

there can be some decent ones

but building will always be better

better parts better looks better performance

[hybrid lynx]

oh alright

thanks for the help btw

[zealous moth]

https://www.jawa.gg/product/46120/msi-ventus-2x-oc-rtx-3060
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rv6Wkf

i tried a " pure peformance"

build

but i kinda suck at these

so lmao

[earnest trellis]

is 5070ti w/ ryzen 7 9800x3d a good build?

[crimson zinc]

Probably overspending on it

I’d go with 9070xt personally instead

[mental hazel]

at current prices i like 5070 ti a lot as an option

you can get them for like $700 flat now

[plucky timber]

Agreed

The 9070XT is pretty bad in terms of price/perf at the moment

[frigid edge]

it is?

5070 ti's are 750 and 9070 xt's are 670

[crimson zinc]

That’s what I’ve seen

[snow dragon]

If nvidia scalps their partners and they are still at msrp, there is no excuse for the 9070 xt to not be at msrp

Amd really should allocate more of their wafers towards rdna 4 to drop the price just a little bit

I think spending the extra 80 on a system that is already gonna cost a lot is worth it

[frigid edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283117002055221271/1364248720010641559/attachment.gif

[snow dragon]

ti uses less power, has better rt and can also oc pretty good

xt should be 600 max

[plucky timber]

Exactly

That is exactly why the 5070TI is better value

[mental hazel]

yeah $80 is worth it for better RT or upscaling, also it's more like $700-620 ish from what i've seen

[fickle bolt]

Where did bro go

Did he leave?

[snow dragon]

Idk I asked earlier and got aired

[fickle bolt]

Aired?

[snow dragon]

Internet slang for getting ignored

I think it came from when people on snapchat would see your message and not respond

to blank you

[crimson zinc]

He left cuz he said it was time to move on

[frigid edge]

Rip boeing

[frigid edge]

should make a memorial somewhere here

can i inherit his techie

[zealous moth]

3080 worth it for 277 bucks ?

Also

What is the performance of a 3080

For 1440p

[mental hazel]

not bad

[zealous moth]

should i pay 60 dollars for the ti

[obsidian wigeon]

nop

the ti isn't faster enough to justify 60

[mental hazel]

10GB is pretty meh, but 12GB is too. better i suppose, but idk. it's not a huge improvement

[zenith cargo]

which 9070xt is worth it?

[fallen sphinx]

USA? the 670 ones

[zenith cargo]

theres a few sub $700, asus prime, asrock steel legend, powercolor reaper,

[fallen sphinx]

powercolor for black build, asrock for white build

[zenith cargo]

is the taichi worth the extra $50?

[fallen sphinx]

no, it uses 12vhpr

[zenith cargo]

its $730 for me

oh vm then

nvm

[fallen sphinx]

i mean if you wanna risk it go ahead

[zenith cargo]

im good

wb the mercury

xfx mercury

[fallen sphinx]

how much is that

[zenith cargo]

$760

[fallen sphinx]

noi\

[zenith cargo]

ill go with the steel legend, and Ill also be trading in my gpu

[fickle bolt]

Xfx mercury is peak

Esthetically

Pricewise, at least for the 9060XT it's also peak

[mental hazel]

the open box $530 gigabyte 9070 non XT on newegg rn

[zenith cargo]

not worth the non xt comg fram a 6900

xt

[mental hazel]

realistically neither is the XT then, it's a 12% difference

[pearl gulch]

Is it still recommended to do 2x24 GB sticks of memory for best bang for buck and overall performance?
Also, does that recommendation stick when it comes to trying to self-host AI?

[mental hazel]

2x whatever capacity gets you to your preferred capacity. you want 2 sticks for dual channel, but ideally not four because of stability things

depends on the models you're hosting and how much you expect to overflow into dram if that's a consideration

ideally you'd have a GPU that can run it in vram, but if you're running on an NPU or smth, lots of dram can be nice

[pearl gulch]

thanks. trying to revive a build I was working on in January and i've shifted my needs from just gaming to AI tinkering...

[zenith cargo]

non xt to xt or 6900xt to 9070xt

?

im also trying to upgrade since it carshing a lot on me, windows reisntalls and ddu doesnt fix it

the thermal pasting is also going out

hotspot gets pretty warm 110c

core temp stays around 75c-85c

also newer ig 🤷‍♂️

[mental hazel]

9070 to 9070 xt

[zenith cargo]

estimated gpu trade in is $360 but idk if its current state will achieve that price

[pearl gulch]

any red flags with this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cvYVxg

[mental hazel]

5080 cooler board and ram are all crazy overpriced

i assume you're paying extra for the white 5080? even still, 5070 ti (10% slower, same vram and all that) is $400 cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H9JBD3/gigabyte-eagle-oc-ice-sff-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16-gb-video-card-gv-n507teagleoc-ice-16gd

there is also a 'like new' one on amazon for $750, which bc of how gigabyte operates it somewhat likely to be a brand new return. and even if it's not you still get warranty and all that so it kinda doesn't matter

cheaper board, i assume you want a full ATX for aesthetics, but you can save a fair bit if you go mATX. i respect the aesthetic decision tho (you can also get pretty excellent used AM5 boards for like $80 on ebay, including ATX options if you don't mind used options)

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KrWJ7P/gigabyte-b650-aorus-elite-ax-v2-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-aorus-elite-ax-v2

cheaper white RGB ram (again I'm assuming you want white dimms, you can save more with a diff colour)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YVfxFT/gskill-trident-z5-neo-rgb-48-gb-2-x-24-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-f5-6400j3239f24gx2-tz5nrw

better cooler for way less, and it's white so it matches the colour scheme a bit better
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xMLFf7/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-white-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-white-argb

[pearl gulch]

I was mostly looking for an entry level AI + gaming card. I am looking to do more professional level AI work than hobby, so I believe this makes the 80 stand out more than the 70 Ti (this makes me rethink what I'm deciding on a bit)
I was probably shelling out a bit more for a white card, but it really doesn't matter as much since I plan to not see it (mesh over tempered glass).

[mental hazel]

it should be fairly consistent scaling with gaming/AI stuff since 5070 ti keeps the same cache and memory setup (barring slightly faster GDDR7 stock on the 5080). it's pretty much just a modest shader reduction. my honest recommendation would be to pocket the $400 because unless for whatever reason AI stuff benefits a TOOOON from 7% faster memory and a couple extra shaders... you probably won't even notice the difference

[pearl gulch]

I installed a low param AI on my 1080 Ti last weekend and it ran smoothly, but took all my resources to run.

recent reading says memory is king for AI, but I need to learn more about the cuda cores because that's the next most referenced topic... I do intend to do complex video generation.

I see the 7% performance difference for the $$$$$ so you might have me sold. just doing some extra research now.

[mental hazel]

capacity mostly, bandwidth is important too but it's a minimal difference on 5070 ti to 5080. and capacity is the same

the basic idea is you want enough memory capacity to fit the model you're running, and then all of the cache and shaders and stuff determine how fast the model runs

ie capacity = what you can run
overall performance = how fast you can run it

Strix Halo is an APU that can use like 256GB of comparatively REALLY slow LPDDR5X memory (like 1/3 the bandwidth a 5080), and it's a much much smaller GPU with fewer shaders. but because it has so much raw memory, you can run crazy complex models on it. just much slower than if a 5080 or something could fit that model for instance

[crimson zinc]

Steel legend rx6650XT
Random b650
7600x
32 gb ram

Would this be worth $400?

[thorny bough]

Trying to build out my PC using the AMD Ryzen 9 7950x.

I’m a music producer, create content, and do lots of work with AI custom API integrations for my businesses. I’m looking to build something that is not going to overboard but still maximizing my multitasking performance capabilities. Hoping you guys can be of some assistance here.

[frigid edge]

yes that is extremely good

[crimson zinc]

Bet

[fallen sphinx]

if its only these then yes, if its a whole pc with that stuff then 10000%

[fallen sphinx]

100%

1000%

abs steal

[frigid edge]

Crazy cpu cooler

upgrade it and ram and thats an insane flip

[quartz plinth]

My mother board doesn’t come with argb what should I do?

[snow dragon]

W board

[frigid jackal]

W speed

[unique tundra]

buy the 5080 fe

https://marketplace.nvidia.com/en-us/consumer/graphics-cards/

its in stock

(just wait for the stock to load)

wish there was a 5070ti fe

[zenith cargo]

this might sound dumb but could these new extension cables contribute to my high gpu temp?

it just feels weird that after I installed these, my hotspot temp jumped a lot

and I don’t think thermal paste wears off from day to night

[mental hazel]

did you also switch your card from a horizontal mount to a vertical one?

nvm that looks horizontal i'm just blind

[pearl gulch]

trying to buy my cpu and its offering me a free liquid cooler. I know nothing about liquid cooling and usually just get noctua coolers because I like them... what's the general thoughts on this?
MSI MAG 360mm Liquid Cooling AIO

[mental hazel]

okayish 360mm. but it's still a 360mm, so even a pretty meh one is still rather solid

[frigid edge]

no

[frigid edge]

thats a great deal

noctuas a bit overrated as people see them as premium and the quietest fan

but unless you literally make everything noctua

there will be fan noise

a 360mm aio is a very nice bundle

[zealous moth]

A 1300 build for me
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KyLJh7

the gpu is a 7800XT or 7900GRE

which is around 450]

[frigid edge]

There’s no cpu in it

the hard drive looks sketch, that ram is bad

[zealous moth]

alr have the CPU

[frigid edge]

Oh

[zealous moth]

oh yeah wrong ram

[frigid edge]

You shouldn’t get Corsair ram trash

[zealous moth]

trying to find one rn

i was chekcing out the subtimings

so i added it lmao

[frigid edge]

everything else looks fine

[zealous moth]

what SSDS do you reccomend then

[frigid edge]

The other one in your list

that’s a great price for 2tb at Gen 4

just get a second one

They’re both gen 4 so it’ll be fast

[edgy flame]

W or L for 600? https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/dT3Zh7

I think i cooked

[cyan plaza]

Do I need a 4 pin atx power here 🤔

Instructions not included

Also do I need a m.2 or ssd as a boot up for the nas

[frigid edge]

might as well try putting a 4pin cpu connector there

half of an 8pin cpu connector

[cyan plaza]

i did find the 4+4 pin later, much later i looked at all the cables and it dropped where i couldn't see it so i was very puzzled why they didn't include one

[gaunt steppe]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QFZwxg what do you guys think of my pc

[fickle bolt]

Could've saved a bit on the ram, psu looks overkill a bit, but other than that not bad

[gaunt steppe]

ok thanks

[cyan plaza]

Looks like the board I got only comes with cpu fan

[cyan plaza]

So I have a suggestion the board only comes with cpu fan that's a PWM or 3-pin fan

Should I get a splitter for that or just psu splitter to plug in other fans? Maybe 1 extra back fan or 2?

[unique tundra]

Buy the 5080 fe to show off

[frigid edge]

what is a meguuuu

[unique tundra]

[frigid edge]

oh i put 4 u's

thers 3

[fallen sphinx]

couldve saved a lot everywhere basically

and that aio SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS for 240mm

[snow dragon]

I want the p12 max freezer to come back because those pros are so loud

[mental hazel]

at your budget you'd probably be far better off shopping used for a lot of the core components

[edgy flame]

Ik

[mental hazel]

then do that

[edgy flame]

Can't find good shit for cheap

[cyan plaza]

sorry few things for
can just 1 cpu fan only do fine? or do i need a molex fan or usb 4 pin splitter? off the main cpu fan since there is only 1 fan header on the baord?
which Nas os do people recommend

[cyan plaza]

i was thinking just going this route https://www.newegg.com/pny-500gb-cs2241/p/N82E16820177156 and true nass scale but that recommends 16gb ram and that's basically all i have on that motherboard

[smoky dew]

Hey all, I’m doing a build for a friend. I’m not too knowledgeable, so I was hoping to hear if I did well here or if I should swap. Budget is around $1k which is what I expect these prices to drop towards in December/new year when they want to buy. Please give tips

[crimson zinc]

Highly suggest not using just Amazon if you can

[smoky dew]

Why?

[crimson zinc]

Amazon tends to have very high prices for stuff

[smoky dew]

I understand

[crimson zinc]

I can build you a list

Do you need a monitor too?

@smoky dew

For their pc*

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vmgzt3

[unique tundra]

I like how you didn’t point out the am4 cpu for an am5 board and ddr5 ram

[frigid edge]

for one you have an am4 cpu and an am5 motherboard which will NOT work together

good thing you came to the right place

[frigid edge]

Hope your cat gets better, I’d donate if I could

[gentle pollen]

How loud are they? I plan to daily those.

I run my current fans at max rpm 24/7.

[snow dragon]

Treat 40% like 100%

At least for me that’s how it was

[snow dragon]

What you got rn

[gentle pollen]

Combination of:

• P12 ARGB
• Fractal Dynamic 180mm
• Deepcool FC120 (AIO version which does about 100rpm higher than the standard).

[snow dragon]

I don’t know how the deepcool sounds but I would guess the pros are gonna be louder

At the same time though the pros do move a lot of air through rads

Expect it to sound like a server though

[gentle pollen]

Can't be worse than a air conditioner at full blast?

[snow dragon]

You can actually hear the humming pick up while the rpm is increasing when the camera is at the monitor lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywSHuwWn85g

For me though it was louder, probably because it was on the rad

Or my room is really quiet so i pick it up easier

[gentle pollen]

Honestly not that much louder.

The profile is more noticable but the actual noise seems not that far off.

[snow dragon]

Yeah it’s not a nice profile

But it wins in static pressure

Moves less air than p12 max but has much better static pressure

[gentle pollen]

My plan is to run P12 Pro fans in Push/Pull on my LT720 and have two P12 Pro fans in front of the motherboard/ram blowing directly onto it and as a result also feeding the AIO.

[gentle pollen]

the pro has more static than the max?

[snow dragon]

For blowing air the max would be better because the max moves more air

[snow dragon]

Yeah that’s why they are using them on the liquid freezer now

[gentle pollen]

Gotcha

@snow dragon the plan is to reuse brackets meant for the back in the front like so to mount a 120mm fan on each half to make the vrms and ram nice and chilly.

[snow dragon]

Arctic says up to 6.3mm/h2o

[gentle pollen]

I just realized I can fit 4 120mm fans up front doing that.

[smoky dew]

haha i realized that afterward but thank you

[frigid edge]

he has returned

[frigid edge]

would you still like help making a pc part list?

[smoky dew]

yes please

ideally im trying to drop the price marginally

i think i got too excited and ended up with like 1400 usd

when the "budget" is 800-1k

[smoky dew]

no but thank you

[frigid edge]

1k pc coming up

@smoky dew https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7kTZh7

heres 860 dollar list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v9JpXR

any lower and youd probably have to downgrade socket

[fallen sphinx]

1s lemme change a few things

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sW4Zh7

[frigid edge]

ATX case for matx

[fallen sphinx]

It’s fine

Also why white parts in a black build

[gentle pollen]

Very respectable parts list.

I appreciate the HDV board and Hynix A-Die.

https://tenor.com/view/chop-approve-cop-approve-lulus-jalan-boleh-gif-9606558

[frigid edge]

Prices

It’s not gonna look bad

[gentle pollen]

use the ram kit Titan picked. cheaper and better. Yes the XMP is worse, but the die it has can easily do 6400cl26 with about 10m of work.

[fallen sphinx]

That is the ram he used

[gentle pollen]

He picked out a different kit

you grabbed a silicon power kit, he's using a Klevv guarenteed A-die kit.

[fallen sphinx]

Not in the list I replied to

[gentle pollen]

Oh I am looking at his revised list.

At the $860 mark.

ram aside, both lists are solid.

[smoky dew]

Thank you goats @fallen sphinx @gentle pollen @frigid edge

[frigid edge]

no problem bro

[smoky dew]

Yeah I don’t think she’ll mind anyway, I care more for performance lol than matching colors/rgb

[versed current]

Can anyone make a Amazon and Newegg pc for like 850$ that will be able to run almost 24/7 for gaming Specifically Roblox rocket league and Fortnite

[crisp sun]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-cyclone-aqua-gaming-desktop-geforce-rtx-5060-intel-core-5-120-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-1tb-pcie-ssd-ca120f5060-black/p/N82E16883360908?Item=N82E16883360908

What are your thoughts on this computer?

I like ABS computers b/c they list out all the parts for the computers.

[unique tundra]

Core 5 Processor 120

It’s their 120th processor

Congrats Intel

For 800 you’re better off buying used

[fallen sphinx]

ddr4 and a 5060 on that cpu is pretty meh, you can get an am5 system for that price if you build it yourself

[crisp sun]

You can usually get better deals if you build it yourself. After working in product support, I now have to acknowledge that prebuilts are also good value for the consumer

[weary galleon]

prebuilts
good value
eehhh

Very rarely

[crisp sun]

lol

[gentle pollen]

Yeah prebhilts typically cost about 20% more than building it yourself. So it's iffy.

[crisp sun]

this is absolutely true

it's always cheaper, but i'll say for some customers, it's absolutely worth it

[gentle pollen]

Give me a few, I am going to make you a good parts list.

[versed current]

Ok :) no rush

It’s for a friend again

[weary galleon]

Depends how much you value your time I guess. If people here make you a parts list and you build following a YouTube tutorial, it's probably 6 hours max to setup

[crisp sun]

our hero

[gentle pollen]

Is your friend willing to spend about 15-30m to manually do a quick and dirty tune in the RAM? If so I can get him some that overclocks to the moon easily and saves him a lot of money.

[versed current]

I don’t think I even know how to properly over lock

It’s basically just so he can macro Roblox

And play with a little better graphics than his Xbox

[gentle pollen]

Gotcha. Well I found the same die on a slightly more expensive model

So it all works out

[versed current]

Ok!!!

What ever you say ;)

[gentle pollen]

2x16 6000mhz cl28

@versed current does he have existing ssds he can reuse?

[versed current]

Nah

Just a full new parts build

He doesn’t wanna take any risks

[gentle pollen]

@versed current how much storage does he need?

Because the SSD and PSU will eat into the GPU budget

Am I able to go to $900? @versed current

[versed current]

Ehhh idk

He only needs like a tb

[gentle pollen]

That's a decent difference.

$50 to $80.

Going from 500GB to 1TB

The motherboard has two nvme slots so he can get a second drive and put it in very easily once he has more money to spare.

[weary galleon]

I'd really reccomend just getting the TB to start. These days you'll burn through 500gb real fast

[gentle pollen]

That brings $900 to $930.

[cyan plaza]

Games are becoming normal 40gb to 50gb but AAA can go past 100gb

[gentle pollen]

The friend is just using it for Fortnite and Roblox with Roblox being the main use.

[cyan plaza]

Ok so not that terrible

[weary galleon]

Yeh ram prices are getting real rough huh

[gentle pollen]

@versed current this is my personal choice $906. It features a near all white system with:

• R5-8500G CPU

• 2 dimm ASRock HDV MOTHERBOARD (Great RAM OC)

• 2x16GB of 6000mhz cl28 RAM with (Hynix A dies, OC king, have fun with your 10,000mhz tune if you have the patience)

• Radeon 7600 GPU

• 500GB G50 SSD

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m9wjmC

[weary galleon]

❌

8500G has half the cache of a 7500F or 7600

[versed current]

Can it be black?

And it could prolly bump down to 800

[gentle pollen]

Can upgrade to a 7600 though that cache doesn't make a large difference if the RAM is tuned.

[weary galleon]

Uhhh

[versed current]

It shouldn’t need a liquid cooler

Oh and

Micro atx

[gentle pollen]

Can do black and white mix. Total cost I wouldn't expect it to drop

[weary galleon]

Proof? Pretty sure that cache will HURT even with good ram

[versed current]

He has a tiny space

Mb

[gentle pollen]

The board is matx, case is ATX.

[versed current]

That would look funny?

[gentle pollen]

Not really.

[versed current]

Tbh a micro atx case and just a normal fan rgb cooler

In black

Should be around 800?

[gentle pollen]

Maybe $860.

Right now white parts are cheap

I can respec the list if desired.

[versed current]

In January when I built mine I had a 7600 non xt a 5600x an 32gb 3600 or something and a normal air cooler

It was like 850 with tax

And a tb

But a lot of parts are liek 30% more

[gentle pollen]

@weary galleon so the 7600/7600x is an additional $20.

[versed current]

Maybe do a am4?

Like when I do my other friends pc he had am5 and way better parts but my pc runs Roblox and mien raft better than his

But he obviously does AAA games better

[gentle pollen]

Hmm I can take another look at AM4, last I checked it costs pretty much the same as a starting AM5 setup.

[versed current]

rely?

[gentle pollen]

Needs to wait till I have time later though.

[versed current]

Yea don’t rush

[gentle pollen]

I will ping you with a respecced list kater

[versed current]

If I was in a rush I’d just build my own and take risks lol

Ok!!

Thanks

[gentle pollen]

@versed current so I did take a look. Cheapest AM5 CPU is the 8500G which has respectable performance at $160 and for AM4 the best CPU within that price range is a 5600XT at $140.

Motherboards will cost about the same at $100 or more. Might be able to save $30 on RAM.

Does your friend need wifi on the board?

Yeah board is the same price.

$99 and $99

@versed current so the same parts I chose but in black for the cooler and board will cost $15 more than white

Could save $2 on a black kit of worse ram

[weary galleon]

This is obviously with a 4090 but yeah the 8600G is a good bit slower than the 7600

oh 8500G isn't even on there

I think the cache is the same between them though

[versed current]

Yea

Well

Wait

Just yea

[tranquil halo]

how future proof is a 9xxx-x3d cpu?

[fallen sphinx]

9800x3d? Very
9950x3d? Extremely
9900x3d? It’s fine but not worth the price at all