building-and-recc-chat

[frigid edge]

any questions concerns anything

[limber bough]

no not atm thank you

[surreal sable]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y28GQd

any improvements to be made?

[frigid edge]

i gotchu

ok uh

the aio, case fans, and power supply are way overpriced

[surreal sable]

ogh xd

[frigid edge]

do you really need the best asus aio cooler

for the price of 9 cheaper ones

like aesthetically and for bragging rights sure

but for that mich money, nearly the same as the cpu

50 bucks will get you more than enough while being cool and looking cool

the ssd is not great, its samsung and its gen 5 by 2, you should get either gen 4x4 or if you really want to deal with a hot nvme then get gen 5x4 but not 5x2

the case is ridiculous no offense, you simply do not need a 400 dollar case and on another thing it is for people that have a load of hard drives and are running a server

[surreal sable]

hmmm, if you can find a better performing AIO cooler, by all means

[frigid edge]

a cheaper one will not be better performing but for 400 DOLLARS it is severely overkill

you could literally make a 5090 pc with this budget

[snow dragon]

That is exactly what i am doing

[frigid edge]

a normal 360 aio from thermalright is more than enough

[snow dragon]

Gonna have to swap the fans though

The rest is good

They cool very well

Just the fans are not good

[surreal sable]

awh, cant post photos here, but the Tower 900 from Thermaltake was my original goto

[snow dragon]

Cheapest 5090 on pcpp is 2300

that is unfortunate

[surreal sable]

hmmm, way too much for me

[frigid edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BNvrKq congratulations your pc is a thousand dollars cheaper, looks better, and has the same specs

[surreal sable]

I'd still go with the rog AIO unless saving 300 bucks will get me something that will amount to something pretty good

[frigid edge]

it will

you should never ever ever spend 400 dollars on an aio

it is so preposterously unnecessary

watch this, with yout original budget of 3100 dollars ill make an even better pc

[surreal sable]

ooo alr I'm curious

thinking about 3d printing a case instead too

👴

[frigid edge]

you cant 3d print your case

unless you have a large printer

and are going mini itx

[surreal sable]

I do have one thats 500x500x500, but even with a small printer like the A1 mini bambulab, I can make interconnectable pieces that will eventually amount to a complete mega block like PC

[frigid edge]

you still wouldnt want to do that

[surreal sable]

how so?

[fickle bolt]

It's gonna end up being more expensive

[frigid edge]

and complicated

and unless you print out of ABS, it will warp from the heat of your components

and the motherboard standoffs will not be secure since its plastic

so do not

[snow dragon]

swap with a 5080

total xtx obliteration

[fickle bolt]

Or 4080, same difference honestly

[surreal sable]

aaa shat and here I thought the heat wouldn't affect it as much for PLA

alr

[frigid edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/djWkYd 2200 for a 5080 build

[surreal sable]

haven't heard of PNY before, any thoughts abt it?

[frigid edge]

its a solid brand and anything they make is good

for 300 more dollars but half the ram and storage, you can play any and every game https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HprKwY

thats a 5090 build

also, I'm the one that directed you here from the war robots frontiers server

[surreal sable]

ik, lol

[frigid edge]

lol

[surreal sable]

any good fans to bring in with this too?

[frigid edge]

to replace the case fans the case comes with? of course

the brand ICOLER is kind of a knockoff of lian li like asiahorse but its actually very good and looks nice

so like uni fans but not overpriced

[surreal sable]

and a ATX too? >:-]

[frigid edge]

mhm full size case and motherboard

[surreal sable]

mhm :3

[frigid edge]

alr ill throw some in and organize the lists now

[surreal sable]

👹

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-heheheha-grrr-emote-king-gif-24764224

[frigid edge]

apparenty since the last time i bought them they kind of disappeared

and arent available brand new

thankfully, thermalright also makes good fans

[fickle bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[surreal sable]

[frigid edge]

9800X3D and 7900XTX and 64gb ram and 4tb storage, $2100
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W84z4p
9800X3D and 5080 and 64gb ram and 4tb storage, $2200
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nRg9gn
9800X3D and 5090 but 32gb ram and 2tb storage, $3400
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VJm9gn

when you dont overspend ridiculously on low importance components, you get much better high importance components

[snow dragon]

Mine costs more but retains the samsung ssd and has a more powerful psu

[frigid edge]

noice

[snow dragon]

more cost goes towards aesthetics

personal preference

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JK2PC8

[surreal sable]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VJm9gn 😡 BIGGER CASE

[frigid edge]

what do you need a bigger case for

[surreal sable]

I want my case to look like a boss

[frigid edge]

its not a small one picked out

[surreal sable]

so looks

[frigid edge]

ok ok one second

[surreal sable]

👴

[frigid edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9zhfwY

this case is beefier and will fit all your fans

[surreal sable]

E-ATX

👹

[frigid edge]

that is unneccessary

and much more expensive

dont you want to save money on things that are not needed

[surreal sable]

what if I want to put my 3d printer inside?

[snow dragon]

[frigid edge]

ok lets be real

[surreal sable]

I just like big stuff :-]

[frigid edge]

its pretty big

[surreal sable]

what abt GAMDIAS doe

👀

[frigid edge]

if you really want one then its your choice and more money drained from wallet

something like the neso p1

or even bigger, neso p1 pro

[surreal sable]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBQKHx/gamdias-neso-p1-pro-atx-full-tower-case-neso-p1-pro

yess

[frigid edge]

😔

[surreal sable]

🤫

[frigid edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hXVVVF

this is basically the best pc you can buy

32gb of ram is plenty nowadays and 2tb of storage will last a while

[surreal sable]

Fan compatibility checking is currently not supported. not much of a worry, right?

also, know any good RGB cables for the motherboard, etc?

[frigid edge]

120mm fans are supported

[frigid edge]

the fans come with connectors to connect to the motherboard so no extra stuff like that

the cooler comes with thermal paste

really the only other thing youd need is a gpu sag bracket

[surreal sable]

but the RGB doe

motherboard power cablee

[frigid edge]

you mean those rgb strips that attach to the big cables

bruh

[surreal sable]

ye, lul

wait

[frigid edge]

atp gimme a budget and ill make the highest end most rgb pc

bc its getting rly expensive

[surreal sable]

500

🥣

[frigid edge]

pain https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Lp69C

[surreal sable]

any more ways to make this look better

[frigid edge]

ah you can send images and gifs now

[surreal sable]

noice

printing house

[frigid edge]

cool

[surreal sable]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Lp69C

completed for now

ooo

know any decent headphones and the BEST 1440p (or higher) monitor?

[frigid edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DpDYsp better looking rear fan and windows 11

[frigid edge]

@wide sparrow ion know much abt high refresh rate monitors, whats the best but not overkill

this ones 1440p 360hz oled https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-AW2725DF-OLED-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B0CZSGWLD5/ref=sr_1_4

[surreal sable]

holy shiet, alr budget for monitors is 500

[frigid edge]

lolok

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-AG276QZD2-Tournament-2560x1440-Compatible/dp/B0D682HF6R/ref=sr_1_3

same thing but 240hz

[surreal sable]

hmmmmm, scrumptious

dang no hesa or mesa whatever mount

[frigid edge]

why need mount

[surreal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/obitoszn-gif-23334442

extra mouse space

[fickle bolt]

mounts are nice but they are ANNOYING'

ask me how I know

only get if you really think you ned

[surreal sable]

how do u know

[fickle bolt]

I have a dual monitor mount

its boojy but also finicky

if ya wanna get a single tho, go for it, js be careful

[surreal sable]

bet

[tame kindle]

I can sell my 5060 and get a 7700xt, is it worth it ?, relatively like same price ish

[molten pebble]

7700XT is around 14% faster and has more VRAM.
5060 is better if you stream on Twitch due to the NVENC encoder. In all other ways a 7700XT is better, just make sure your PSU can run it

5060 is 145W and 7700XT is 245W

[tame kindle]

even if i use ray tracing ?

[molten pebble]

You should not use ray tracing on a 5060 period point blank

It's not fast enough for that lmao

[lofty mesa]

Specs:
CPU: Intel Core Ultra 7 265KF
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6400
Graphics Card: PNY VERTO RTX 4080 SUPER
Motherboard: ASUS TUF GAMING Z890-PLUS WIFI
Power Supply: MSI MAG A1000GL PCIE5 & ATX 3.1 Fully Modular 1000w 80+ Gold - has a 600w dedicated GPU 12HPWR cable for the GPU.
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Elite - 280w TDP Cooler
Storage: 3 x WD Black SN850X 1TB NVME Drives
Case: Corsair FRAME 4000D RS Black
Case Fans: 9 x Corsair RS 120 PWM Fans
OS: Windows 11 Pro

What is this worth?

[tame kindle]

evn in 1080p though ? usually use ray tracing with dlss and fg2x

[weary galleon]

Fwiw the 7000 series does have av1 hardware encoding which is probably good enough for basic streaming

If you're serious enough about streaming to want nvenc you probably want more power than a 5060

Envy if you're happy with the 5060 I'd probably keep it. Typically sidegrading is going to cost a bit and you might as well save for an upgrade

Unless you can return the 5060 for a full refund

[molten pebble]

Twitch doesn't do AV1

[weary galleon]

Really?

That's sad

[molten pebble]

There's a reason I said specifically Twitch

And not just live streaming in general

Streaming to YouTube, yes AV1 is supported

[weary galleon]

Yeah I knew YT had it, I just assumed twitch would as well

[molten pebble]

Fast paced motion like Vampire Survivors is a blurry pixelated mess on Twitch, clear as day on YT

[weary galleon]

AV1 is actually incredible compared to h.264/265

I got a 40 series card and it was a little messed up at first (Nvidia mixed up megabits and megabytes in their settings overlay lol) but now that's settled my clips take up less space and look better

[snow dragon]

Discord finally supports av1 video embed

They were 2 years behind

It took them so long to support hevc that they added support after av1 came out

I still think they should have instead supported av1 at that time because of how long it took for that

[molten rune]

So, friend asked for some help with a build
Gave me this list

Budget: 1500-2K
Storage: 1TB SSD
Resolution: 4K
Case: smallest profile with no RGB
Wireless card
Gaming will mostly be Overwatch, League, BG3, Cyberpunk, and other AAA titles
I do capture footage via OBS and stream via Discord from time to time. Would also be using programs like Blender, Unity, Photoshop, and Illustrator```
i did mention that the goals of the gaming cpu vs the production/workload cpu would be different but came up with this-- mostly because he did say gaming was more important usually

also told him that it could just as easily do 9800x3d if he wanted to spend the funds.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kJZhfd

first time builder for him (not physically near to help, but..) so i figured the aio might be easier.

did mention about he was planning on waiting till black friday so might have better deals then but ye

[wide sparrow]

looks great to me

[plucky timber]

Note that the 5070TI is around the same price

Otherwise the list looks good

[snow dragon]

Yeah that’s a brutal 9070 xt

[plucky timber]

He'd also benefit from CUDA too

So it's a no brainer

[snow dragon]

Either get a cheaper one or 5070 ti

[snow dragon]

Literally 5070 ti price

[plucky timber]

It is

[snow dragon]

Xfx trippin so hard

[plucky timber]

That's a massive red flag

The rest of the list is solid tho so that gpu stands out like a sore thumb

[snow dragon]

But that model was always overpriced even at launch

[plucky timber]

Could be a bit optimized but eh I'm not going to be nitpicky here the list is fine

[snow dragon]

Idk their endgame with that model

[plucky timber]

There is no endgame it's 5070TI price

[snow dragon]

Oh blender is on there

Yep 5070 ti

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J7LMsp

[snow dragon]

Perhaps capitalizing off amdroids to offset msrp margins

[plucky timber]

New list

I did nitpick in the end

Just for slight price savings without messing with aesthetics too much

[molten rune]

it was the highest rated 9070xt i could find

[plucky timber]

Unfortunately it's priced the same as a 5070TI

And if he needs to use CUDA

It would just blow the 9070XT

[snow dragon]

Oh thats a nice looking model

[plucky timber]

Available soon

[snow dragon]

Nice to see more msrp besides pny

[plucky timber]

I hate pcpartpicker

Why isn't there a filter

[molten rune]

is there a function to turn off the rgb thing

because remember he wanted as little as possible

[plucky timber]

Yeah don't plug it in

[molten rune]

on the aio

[plucky timber]

Oh wait on the block

Oh you know what if it's a key aesthetic choice

Yeah arctic

[molten rune]

that one was a mix of therms and aesthetics so

[snow dragon]

Block should have rgb cable right

[plucky timber]

You can also go for an air cooler tbh

[molten rune]

i usually do air cooling but

[plucky timber]

RK120 can cool an X3D fine

[molten rune]

since he's a first timer i also wanted it simple-- and while i personally find air cooling simple, i know in watching my friend try to set one up

fan brackets are a bit of a mess sometime

s

(different friend)

[plucky timber]

I'd argue that it's less annoying than having to deal with the cable jumble

[snow dragon]

Yeah air coolers still win there

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4gDQzy/thermalright-rk120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-rk120-se

It's also $28

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CwGhP6/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-black

All black

Eh not worth the price difference

RK120 still king tbh

PS120 does perform slightly better but it doesn't really matter

Especially considering the price jump

[molten rune]

i had mentioned to him about the fact that if he's waiting for a sale, the GPU you might end up picking could be something very different so, just figured i'd list the best one of that on offer--

[plucky timber]

It's... Not the best

By any mile

If you're aiming for a 9070XT that is the completely wrong price bracket

You should be looking at something at least $100 cheaper

At this price point you can find 5070TIs, and they'll be way better for his use case than a 9070XT

Especially in blender

You could step down $100 and go 9070XT if you still wanted to go for one

[molten rune]

when i asked him about that he did say gaming was more of a focus so

[plucky timber]

I mean

It still shouldn't be around the $750 price range

That is extremely overpriced for a 9070XT

There is zero reason not to go for a 5070TI in this price point

[molten rune]

Other than not supporting nvidia, which i personally am a fan of 😛 But i'll let him know.

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8ZJBD3/powercolor-reaper-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx9070xt-16g-a

This would make more sense

[plucky timber]

Eh

It's about giving him the best pc for him

I'd either just get a 5070TI or a cheaper 9070XT

9070XT in the $750 price bracket is a ripoff

On one hand I absolutely despise nvidia, but I'd still recommend their gpus if they are clearly better in a given scenario (in performance, or price, or any number of reasons)

[molten rune]

i did also tell him that in Q1 2026 they are expected to do a refresh at that point

but obviously if we're trying to get black friday sales... might not have much choice

[plucky timber]

It doesn't really matter that much

With the GPU market nowadays who knows if it'll even be better

[molten rune]

arent they adding like 6gb more vram in a lot of the models which may make other comparable things cheaper

[plucky timber]

They better

I have extremely low trust in AMD and Nvidia to do the right thing

[molten rune]

obv these are rumors

[plucky timber]

Both companies have a track record of putting profits before consumers

[molten rune]

and this is Nvidia we're talking about

but yeah

[plucky timber]

Remember AMD does the same

[molten rune]

i was under the impression theres wouldnt be till Q2 2026

[plucky timber]

They just don't have a monopoly in this market

[molten rune]

which would be a very long wait

[plucky timber]

Particularly with Ryzen

There's also the 9060XT 8GB

[molten rune]

do you think it'd be more worth it to jump to a 9800x3d and that cheaper card, or stick with the 7800x3d and switch to a comparbly priced 5070 ti then

[plucky timber]

No

Not worth the price jump

[molten rune]

in both cases or

[plucky timber]

9800X3D in both cases

Keep the 7800X3D

Then make a decision between a rationally priced 9070XT or a 5070TI

I'd argue if he uses CUDA he'd benefit more from the 5070TI

It will blow the 9070XT

For gaming it matters a whole lot less

~$70-100 saved in this case for a ~$650-680 9070XT for not that much performance loss

[molten rune]

these were the results i was mostly basing it on
https://youtu.be/zQQUfQw5JA8?si=BVBw0oDYIZCQrGCg&t=640

re: xfx mercury

[plucky timber]

Not worth the $750 price tag

The "best model" of the 9070XT is still not worth over $700

You have to look at the actual price of the card

[frigid edge]

3000 dollars

who

you sold it? for how much

[lofty mesa]

The seller I got for a steal

[frigid edge]

Oh how much did you pay

[lofty mesa]

1100

[frigid edge]

HOLY WHAT

[lofty mesa]

Going to sell rn for 1750

[frigid edge]

THATS INSANE

[lofty mesa]

Also buying a 4080ti super build for 1.4

[frigid edge]

Bro sell for more than that its worth at the very least 2500

[lofty mesa]

Can’t I’m buying other pc

[frigid edge]

there is no 4080 ti super

[frigid edge]

Wdfdym

[lofty mesa]

Ik I mean 4070

I’m tripping

[frigid edge]

ok

[lofty mesa]

Dms I’ll show u the build

[frigid edge]

do not sell that pc for 1750

[wide sparrow]

thats one ugly card in the thumbnail

[zealous moth]

B770

oh

no

nvm

not intrsted

[zealous moth]

9060XT+7500F
B580+7700
Both are for 1080P CS2 Battlielfield marvel rivals basicallly shoothers

[frigid edge]

7700 could go with either of those

[weary galleon]

I think it's a budget thing maybe?

[weary galleon]

Cs2, rivals, overwatch, Fortnite, etc will be better on the 9060xt + 7500F. Battlefield 6 might benifit from the extra cores on the 7700

Yeah the recommend cpu spec is a 3700x so it probably likes the 8core

Granted a 7500F is a lot more powerful than a 3600

[mental hazel]

16GB 9060 xt or 8GB?

[frigid edge]

always get 16gb

unless you're doing non AAA games at 1080p and just want high frames and will upgrade gpu in the future, then get 8gb

[mental hazel]

tis why i asked

[fickle bolt]

or just dont buy 8gb trash unless u fr on a budget

[frigid edge]

atp get b580

[cyan plaza]

Nas build just need change recommendation but hopeless on psu and case, I always seem to end up buying cases too small 😅
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LHsyh7

Hdd price is wrong because I'm pretty sure I bought those cheaper just there's no history of them on the site

[frigid edge]

if its a nas then why need gpu

save the money

[cyan plaza]

i dont ok then

like i didn't know that

but that means i need a cpu with at lest intergrated graphics correct?

[plucky timber]

What exactly are you running on the nas?

[frigid edge]

yes which the cpu you chose is fine for but also overkill

if its just a bulk storage pc

you dont need much of anything

[frigid edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tdk4zP heres a better list for something as simple as a bulk storage pc

idk any good cases that can fit 4 drives tho

so anyone else that sees this, he needs a case for matx and can house 4 3.5 drives

[plucky timber]

Do you need all the redundancy in one machine

[cyan plaza]

movies and pictures basically, storage was becuase it was on sale

[plucky timber]

It'd be far more practical if you had two drives and then have the server sync to an off-site backup

[plucky timber]

How much storage will you have in practice

[cyan plaza]

i was going to do raid but not sure which one yet

[plucky timber]

That brings me back to my original question

Do you need all the redundancy

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176153790876?

[cyan plaza]

raid 6 requires 4 drives correct or raid 1+0 i'm just kinda in favor of redundancy becuase right now i'm sitting at home with 4 hdd 1990 to 2010 all dead

[plucky timber]

I'd put an 8500 in there but they don't sell ones with an i5

[plucky timber]

But do you NEED this much redundancy?

If you combine a 2 drive mirror setup with a off-site backup it'd be far more practical

[cyan plaza]

for off-site backup like where

[plucky timber]

You can have four drives in one machine but if a freak event happens

Like the PSU just blows up for whatever reason

The files will still all be gone

[plucky timber]

Anywhere

There are many options

[plucky timber]

Remember you're running a home server, you don't need all that availability

[cyan plaza]

but Microsoft and google is out of the question then offsite can delete your data if they feel like it

[plucky timber]

When it comes to mirroring across four drives you're not only looking at integrity but also high availability

[plucky timber]

Well that's the thing

You can use anything

Have a PC plugged into the next room do a rsync job every couple hours or so

Anything works

[cyan plaza]

so 2 drive server then a offsite backup 1?

[plucky timber]

It could be literally anything

There are many possible combinations

Have the server run at another relative's house or something

If you're afraid of a fire happening at your house

Or just run it in the next room

https://www.ebay.com/itm/285763720255?

More than sufficient

[cyan plaza]

well usally i'm not but correctly i am

[plucky timber]

For running a NAS

[plucky timber]

What?

[cyan plaza]

sleeping next to a wall of batteries right now for time being 🫡

[plucky timber]

🤨

[plucky timber]

These have decent psus, decent cpus, more than enough ram

[cyan plaza]

😅

[plucky timber]

You can spend more money if you want to go n100 and save money on power bills

But that's more in a custom built solution and the price scales up a lot

Then again you wouldn't be running anything intensive on the coffee lake

So it's not going to sip that much power anyways

[cyan plaza]

the thing is a lot of this goes over my head low power but enough you can do stuff in like transfer thing from city to city but i just need a backup system for movie and pictures with a offsite which was original why i was just going to buy one for simplicity

[plucky timber]

Power consumption doesn't matter?

Yeah ok the optiplex is fine then

Could even go to skylake

[cyan plaza]

i would go low power becuase rates went 📈 in cost of electricity

[plucky timber]

Remember that the pc won't consume the full TDP

It'd be sitting idle 99% of the time

https://www.ebay.com/itm/357410252080?

The N100 draws very little power

But costs significantly more than the optiplex up front

Like 2-3x up front

[cyan plaza]

ok i see

[plucky timber]

But if you're not that constrained on the budget

It's a better option

N100 also has newer QSV too

So if you're transcoding

[cyan plaza]

i think of short term vs long term and how long till it even out $50.00 right now and lower power useage or higher power useage ve cheaper price

[plucky timber]

It's quite powerful

I say 2-3x the price but it's likely still cheaper than the 5700g setup

[cyan plaza]

that does sound like a better deal though

[plucky timber]

Yeah N100 is great

Are you running a media server off the NAS as well?

Like streaming videos over the internet?

[cyan plaza]

i was highly thinking about it

[plucky timber]

The N100 is quite good for that

[cyan plaza]

lest local and not over the internet if that's what you mean

[plucky timber]

With the newer igpu

You can technically do it with any pc

But if you need transcoding you'd need a decent gpu

Intel Quicksync is pretty good for this purpose

You get pretty good encode/decode performance without having to spend a couple hundred watts on a nvidia dgpu

Lots of flexibility here, and it's not all that expensive relatively speaking (especially considering power draw)

[cyan plaza]

biggest issue i have is this is really out of my zone, it's like i know what i want but when it comes to the parts i have no clue becuase there's to many options that work with it or doesn't work with it

[plucky timber]

A list of requirements would be useful

[cyan plaza]

Pictures
Streaming video
thats about it...

[plucky timber]

Yeah n100 is perfect

You don't need a lot of performance

And for streaming video you have the intel igpu for transcoding if you needed to transcode something

If power consumption is a key concern I'd say go for the n100

If you don't really care and just want a lower up front cost

Coffee lake

[cyan plaza]

whats the coffee lake?

[plucky timber]

i5-8400

It's the optiplex I listed earlier

[cyan plaza]

o ok thought i missed a post

[plucky timber]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/285763720255?

It's very cheap up front, but you pay with power consumption over time

That said your use case means that it wouldn't be sipping much power on average anyways

So there's also that to consider

[plucky timber]

This is pretty much plug and play

Plug the drives in, install the nas OS of choice

And you're done

[cyan plaza]

then the the N100 is better for streaming videos though

[plucky timber]

Yes it is

That's a decision you would have to make

The n100 is superior in pretty much every way here

[cyan plaza]

ill just do the N100 then

[plucky timber]

But costs a whole lot more up front

Good choice

[cyan plaza]

cost more but makes more sense

[plucky timber]

All you need now is the rest of the pc

This particular motherboard takes one DDR5 sodimm

[cyan plaza]

🤔 huuu

[plucky timber]

You can probably swap out the parts in your original list with that

[plucky timber]

Laptop ram

[cyan plaza]

i'm going to need time and ebay for cases for hdd, pc picker is like ya those are so old they don't exist anymore

wait if i get that board i don't need a gpu but i can build a microt atx mid or mini tower?

[plucky timber]

The n100 has an igpu

Quite capable at transcoding I might add

Really great for running a media server while consuming minimal power

Perf/watt in this scenario is really good

[cyan plaza]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Knightw0lf/saved/gJx6qs

I'm guessing that board is small enough to fit into a micro atx case?

If I do 2 drives then

[plucky timber]

Yes

[manic cloak]

is 400$ for my 7800xt worthwhile?

I haven't been caught up with the market prices in forever

[frigid edge]

i would try 500 and if it doesnt work then 450

actually it has indeed changed

400 is a safe bet, 420-440 is around what im seeing so maybe around that

[viral badge]

Is $400 solid for a ryzen 5 9600x and b650 pro motherboard

[stoic island]

no, you can easily get a 9600x with a b650 board for $350 or less brand new

[zealous moth]

16

but

i can only get 16

if i get 7500

lmao

and i wanna build a arc build

[obsidian wigeon]

i'd rather tell you to get 9060xt

[zenith cargo]

anybody know why this keeps happening?

I even freshly windows like a few weeks ago too

probably the 2nd or 3rd time this has happened and the only fix was reinstalling windows all over again

I came back from a trip to this

literally nothing changed

I just turned it in after a week without use and bam just decides to die on me

I can’t even repair it in command prompt because it’s keeps on crashing

[obsidian wigeon]

Corrupted OS

Gotta reinstall or repair with a windows boot media

To me it sounds like your boot drive is dying

[zenith cargo]

and apparently my ram as well

also got a memory management stop code

[zenith cargo]

Got it last black friday

or near christmas

[mental hazel]

9060 xt for sure then. considerably faster, more vram

[mental hazel]

get one when they're really cheap

i get it, i have an a770 and b580 for collecting (mostly), but it's not really worth paying the premium they demand for a subpar product

[obsidian wigeon]

Okay, taking into consideration that your drive is new. I think it's your ram that's acting up

Would be worth it to try running one stick

[zenith cargo]

running a memory test rn, i’ll see how that goes

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

If windows detects it, your ram is indeed bad

It's generally not that reliable of a tool, so this is indeed a hardware issue with memory

[zenith cargo]

my ram is new too 💀

bought it around feb

[obsidian wigeon]

you can RMA it

[plucky timber]

Tbh the only practical use case is A380 as a lower power gpu for transcoding

other than that intel gpus are pretty bad for the price

[mental hazel]

b580 is okay-ish for niche usecases but otherwise i totally agree. and unfortunately there is a limit to how cheap they can get, bc the die sizes are HUGE for the performance lol

[zenith cargo]

could this tiny scratch affect it in any way 😂

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah, that's normal

[mental hazel]

nah, you can be missing most of the finger and it'll still work. a minor scratch is nothing

[obsidian wigeon]

Wear and tear from usage

[zenith cargo]

lol

alr ima test it with using only one

i installed it right?

it’s not turning on

[obsidian wigeon]

hrm

Either that stick is dead or the mobo is having issues

[zenith cargo]

inserted the other one and also no video

[plucky timber]

yeah sadly it's still only ok-ish

the drivers really hold that gpu back

B580 was one of the more exciting launches and then the drivers trolled us

[zenith cargo]

i’m

um

my pc suddenly works now

I put both back in and booted up lido nothing happens

like*

[mental hazel]

and the design itself haha. even when performing optimally it's wildly die space inefficient relative to AMD/Nvidia. if they continue improving at current rate they should get close to RDNA 3 die space efficiency with Celestial (if it launches beyond laptop tiles lol)

[crimson zinc]

@tulip prism what’s your budget

[tulip prism]

I don’t wanna go over 1400

[crimson zinc]

Okay

[tulip prism]

I was looking at this for 1299 too

Operating System with Intel Core i7-14700F
• NVIDIA RTX 5060 Ti 16GB - Al Powered Performance
• 32GB DDR5 6000MHZ RGB
• 2TB NVMe SSD Gen 4.0
• B760M D5 WI-Fi CEC Motherboard
• Tower Cooler fan
• 650W 80+ Gold
• Premium Micro ATX case
• WiFi and Bluetooth ready
• Excellent airflow with total 6 ARGB fans
• VR Ready
• AI PC Ready
• Keyboard and mouse included
• Windows 11 Home

[crimson zinc]

Do not

[tulip prism]

Ok

I just need some help finding a good one cause idk anything about pcs

[crimson zinc]

Check this out on @Newegg:Gaming PC Ryzen 9 5950X 32GB RAM 1TB SSD RX 7900 GRE 16GB Windows 11 Computer https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-0012-00C02

Check this out on @Newegg:Yeyian Gaming Desktop PC YARI Intel Core Ultra 5 225F GeForce RTX 5070 – Ai Powered 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RGB 1 TB NVMe SSD Windows 11 Home - YPI-YA225FC-5701N https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-warriors-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5070-intel-core-ultra-5-225f-32gb-ddr5-1tb-nvme-ssd-yari/p/N82E16883630084

I’d personally go with the 7900 GRE, as it performs a little better than the 5070 with 4GB more vram

It’s also cheaper

Just use the saved money into more storage

[tulip prism]

Alr bet thanks

[crimson zinc]

However, its an older cpu

Or you could use money saved to buy into am5 with a cheap 9600x+b650e and sell the am4 stuff

[tulip prism]

Are u talking about the 7900 gre

[crimson zinc]

The cpu with the 7900gre

The 5950x

[tame kindle]

after playing black myth wukong and my fps dropping from 180 to 45 in a lot of areas, now i understand why vram matters, so, i was planning on a 5070 for 1440p, am i still gonna face vram issues like that ?

I was using a 5060 for 1080p, i was planning on just selling my 5060 and getting a 1440p monitor, and get a 5070

[zealous moth]

maybe drivers ?

[tame kindle]

So its not vram ?

tho i am using the latest drivers for it

[zealous moth]

5070 shpuld be fine at 1440p

well

list out all the parts you have

[tame kindle]

I meant currently i was using a 5060 at 1080p

i7 12700k, 32gb g skill tridentZ ddr5, 650w coolermaster gold 80+, rtx 5060 msi shadow

[zealous moth]

check the CAS latency of the RAM

[tame kindle]

How do i do that

[zealous moth]

check model namew

like full name

[tame kindle]

like gpu full name ? i dont quite understand

[zealous moth]

ram name

[tame kindle]

its 5200hz

[zealous moth]

a;so4

thre cas latency'

[tame kindle]

ITS g skill tridentz 5200hz white, is that it ?..

[zealous moth]

CAS latency

Do you not know what that is

[tame kindle]

I dont, sorry

[zealous moth]

a;r

hold on

[zealous moth]

the clock speed of a Ram

how many time it repeats

hold on

[tame kindle]

CAS latency, i just checked, is 40

[zealous moth]

Well theres the issue

[tame kindle]

How so?..

[zealous moth]

Upgrade to above 32

[tame kindle]

isnt 40 abovoe 32

[zealous moth]

RAM is needed to tranfer the info

[zealous moth]

sorry Below

[tame kindle]

no no like, i need to upgrade ram ?

[zealous moth]

that seems

so

[tame kindle]

Theres no way my g skill tridentZ ddr5 32gb ram is the bottleneck here?..

like are you sure?

[zealous moth]

yed

bro

you literally have one of the worse DDR5

like

Did you do your research

also

run it on 1080P High

maybe that will help

[tulip prism]

Anyone know if the PayPal payment method pay in 4 works on newegg it’s giving me the option to use it I was just wondering

[vagrant anvil]

Is this a good build lmk:

https://newegg.io/d038818

[frigid edge]

do not get corsair ram
the motherboard is overkill
the ssd is overkill and overpriced, get a different brand
are you sure you want an air cooler when a very nice liquid cooler will look better in that case and cost half as much

[frigid edge]

if its giving you the option whats saying it wont work

[crimson zinc]

It works

[cyan plaza]

Nas check for N150 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c2sHcx does this look good enough before buying

ill probably wait till Amazon Prime though since thats in 6 days

[fickle bolt]

[cyan plaza]

o wait lol fixed

i already have hdd so i'm good with those and the board

[frigid jackal]

Recc for 1440p monitor? https://a.co/d/5CDhCaD is this decent

[cyan plaza]

o no it's nas, I'm just storing photos and movies thats about it, i just didn't want to buy things then find out i made a mistake later 😅

if i need a screen later i can just get one later

[vagrant anvil]

How come the ssd is overkill? I’m trying to future proof pretty hard too and make it very upgradable as well and Samsung is very fast I heard, what would y suggest tho? Also whats wrong w corsair ram im curious, and what would u suggest w that?

[frigid edge]

samsung is fast but the ssd you have is overpriced for a gen 4 drive

you could easily get a gen 4 4tb drive for 200 dollars

[frigid edge]

for the ram get literally any other brand

gskill trident z5 neo is great with amd cpus

teamgroup's tforce delta is good and looks really nice

in fact im gonna make your part list but in pcpartpicker

[frigid edge]

yeah that looks fine

for like 20 more dollars you can get 240hz tho

like this https://www.amazon.com/SANSUI-IPS丨Speakers丨HDR10-丨2×DisplayPort-1-4丨2×HDMI丨Height-Adjustable/dp/B0CWL14K13/ref=sr_1_5

which is actually 260 hz, very good deal

thats 199

this is 189 if you want 240hz isntead of 260 https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G41ZE-2560x1440-Frameless-Zero-Bright-Dot/dp/B0FF5HXGJK/ref=sr_1_6

[frigid edge]

also getting a 1000w psu is good future proofing so well done on that

here take a look https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TVsHcx

200 dollars less with twice the storage

300 dollars less if you want to keep it at 2tb

[vagrant anvil]

How come what’s Dif w that site?

[frigid edge]

easier organization and it finds the best price from any website not just newegg

[vagrant anvil]

Yes I’m prob gonna upgrade gpu, and I’m def gonna change ram now, I know 6400mhz is very good so I’ll try to find that speed as well

[vagrant anvil]

Ah okay

[vagrant anvil]

I would rather a ssd than a drive I hate them tbh

[frigid edge]

it isnt much of a difference

[frigid edge]

you misunderstand, ssd is a type of drive

the one you selected is a gen 4 nvme

[vagrant anvil]

Ah I didn’t exactly research this

[frigid edge]

there are other gen 4 nvmes that are just as good for less money

[vagrant anvil]

Oh okay

[frigid edge]

thats why we're here

[vagrant anvil]

Lmao yeah I figured try this before I buy it

What brand would u rec that has the same speed and performance for less? And the same storage, I def want 2 2tb ssds tho

[frigid edge]

the one i put in the pcpartpicker list

and its better to get a 4tb rather than two 2tb's

[vagrant anvil]

Oh okay

Where’s that link u sent mb?

[frigid edge]

here

ask away any questions, see if you like the looks

the cooler will match very well with the case

[vagrant anvil]

Yes I’m very determined to air cool though tbh

[frigid edge]

how come, aio is cheaper and same performance

[vagrant anvil]

I’ve never built a pc before although I know how to, I’m a software engineer but I’ve never done hardware firsthand so idk how to water cool or take care of it or do pipes and stuff

[frigid edge]

yo ok heres another thing

AIO water cooler stands for all in one

theres no water you have to fill

no special steps

you take it out of box and install it

[vagrant anvil]

Oh okay do o fill it w coolant or something tho?

[frigid edge]

lol with hardcore manual water cooling then youd be right but all in ones are all ready

[vagrant anvil]

Yeah lmao

[frigid edge]

nope its out of the box usable

[vagrant anvil]

So I won’t need thermal paste either Idk the difference sorry

[frigid edge]

no you will still need thermal paste 💀

[vagrant anvil]

Ok I thought so

[frigid edge]

the cooler will come with some

[vagrant anvil]

Js making sure

Why not the mobo again?

[frigid edge]

its an expensive model that you really dont need

wasting money basically

[vagrant anvil]

Even for future proof

[frigid edge]

mhm

motherboard can continue to support high end parts

[vagrant anvil]

Ah okay

See there’s some things ai doesn’t mention

[frigid edge]

since you're getting the 9800x3d youd really only be upgrading the gpu or ram and any decent am5 motherboard can handle that

thas what you dont ask ai about pcs 💀

[vagrant anvil]

Aye atleast I went and got help 😭

[frigid edge]

yes good job on that no worries

[vagrant anvil]

Js curious why water better ?

[frigid edge]

in this case its half the price, will cool the same or better, and looks better

[vagrant anvil]

Okay

Thanks for ur help

Ima update the list and ask again soon if that’s okay

[frigid edge]

np

[frigid edge]

thats perfect

but what do you mean update the list, the pcpartpicker list is the edited list and better to buy from there since it finds the best price

whether it be newegg amazon b&h or directly from the manufacturer

in any case, edit the pcpp list not the newegg one

[vagrant anvil]

Okay

[vagrant anvil]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fy48Dj

@frigid edge

[frigid edge]

summons

[frigid edge]

im asking as nice as i can

is there a reason you want a more expensive motherboard

like if you are fine with the upcharge and want that aesthetic then by all means get that

but it wont be much of a difference anywhere else

[vagrant anvil]

The WiFi perks

WiFi 6e vs WiFi 7

@frigid edge I heard there’s a big difference between WiFi 6e and 7

[frigid edge]

you dont need it

ethernet is superior to wifi and should always be used instead

[fickle bolt]

It's not huge

[frigid edge]

thats what she said

[frigid edge]

not worth it

[snow dragon]

When your speeds are fast enough to show the difference, yes

But for almost everyone

It does not matter

My ax210 gets 90% of the speed from my qcncm865

Ax210 is wifi 6e and qcncm865 is wifi 7

[snow dragon]

If not even closer than 10%

Probably like 5% difference between the two

I don’t have wifi 6 ghz router though, only 2.4 and 5

Wifi 7 5 ghz is supposedly a big deal over wifi 6e 5 ghz because of the additional wifi 7 optimizations

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308028160602013698/1417052242036523059/image.png?ex=68e0267e&is=68ded4fe&hm=68de366bbb358e153a237b9b762ed8de357771b08d75aef0b4806d49cdfc0316&

That is the ax210

The qualcomm barely got more than this, if not even the same speeds

[vagrant anvil]

Okay

[tulip prism]

I ended buying the yeyian pc

[crimson zinc]

https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-warriors-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5070-intel-core-ultra-5-225f-32gb-ddr5-1tb-nvme-ssd-yari/p/N82E16883630084
this ? @tulip prism

[tulip prism]

Yea

[crimson zinc]

Little more than I’d spend but glad you got something. Let us know how it is when it comes

[neat creek]

any one can help me with my new build

[frigid edge]

sure, is it for gaming only, do you want white or black or pure performance, and what is your budget

[fickle bolt]

!ask

[still roost]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[frigid edge]

nah its fine i know its a rabbit hole of questions and answers

[fickle bolt]

💀

[tame kindle]

I was originally planning on getting a RTX 5070, next month and one of my friend said it's a bad choice I should just get a 7800xt, is that that it's better? Especially since like it has 4 gb more vram

Even then, do I really have any other 1440p options in that price range

[snow dragon]

Well do you play games that take up that much vram

Because the most vram I have seen taken up was 8 gigs in the games i play, at 1440p

If you constantly play new games that come out, then maybe you would want to get more vram

But if you are like most pc gamers that play existing titles then you probably could get away with lower vram

[weary galleon]

Not a great comparison, the 5070 is something like 25% faster (but will cost more)

[tame kindle]

I suppose I do, like black myth wukong, ac, clair obscur, I also do competitive

Also I really like ray tracing

like a really big deal as well

[tame kindle]

The thing is, aside from 7800XT, 9060,xt, 5070, do I really have any other options

Also I should say, my budget is 750 ish, and a 5070 here costs like 750$ here

Oh, I just thought of a maybe used 6900xt?

[neat creek]

@frigid edge i need something Around 5060 ti 16gb , i will run unreal engine on it and i need it under 55000 egp

[frigid edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vmTBkf hows this? the 9060xt is a great option to counter 5060ti's price while keeping great performance

heres with 5060ti https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zxJ8Dj

[tardy elk]

Can someone give me a list for a sff pc for traveling with perferrably a single fan 5060 and a 9600x

[stoic island]

What budget?

And what kind of size constraint

Any specific dimensions or any other needs would be good, if it needs to fit in a suitcase or anything like that

[tardy elk]

Around 1000, and yeah in a suitcase

[stoic island]

Got the dimensions?

quick $1000 list with a jonsbo c6 as the case for reference
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3pxG9C

[neat creek]

@frigid edge what about intel's CPUs??

[frigid edge]

Amd is better

[zealous moth]

what is he using

and doing

it depends

[frigid edge]

gaming

[frigid edge]

nothing right now

[frigid edge]

this is the list I made him

[zealous moth]

oh yeah

INTEL SUCKS

lmao

kinda

their best options are 12 th gen

and 14600K

and 12 th gen go razy expansive

and AM5 hjas optiona for them

[vagrant anvil]

@frigid edge

Could u check this build out, I also wanna know if this is even gonna look good too, with colors and whatnot, u alr rated the performance a while ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[deep spruce]

What do you guys think of this build https://newegg.io/251e9ed its gonna be my New rig since my other one got Destroyed?

[mental hazel]

wrong link

copy the share link at the top of the list

[static skiff]

ive been a little out of the loop for the last 2ish years, but someone with a budget of 3k asked me to make a list. i think this list is pretty well balanced, but im not completely sure. i could swap the 7900xtx for a 5080, but im not sure if the performance increase is worth the extra money. he also needs a monitor, so please suggest some. theres no case because i dont know what he wants it to look like. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QtzYkf

[static skiff]

id get rid of the aio. the wraith stealth is pretty good at cooling, as long as youre not overclocking too much. that $110 could go to your gpu

[deep spruce]

What GPU do you recommand?

[deep spruce]

Liquid Cooling I had in my Last Rig due to I dont Use the CPU Fan at all

[static skiff]

maybe this one. its refurbished if youre okay with that. https://www.newegg.com/pny-technologies-inc-verto-vcg40608dfxpb1-o-geforce-rtx-4060-8gb-graphics-card-double-fans/p/N82E16814133970?Item=N82E16814133970

are you saying that you already have an aio? the cpu that you picked only uses 65 watts, which the included cooler can handle easily

[frigid edge]

you copied the link incorrectly

it’s not the browser link it’s the link at the top left of the part list within the window

[mental hazel]

7900 XTX is crazy overpriced, and there are better CPU coolers for less. can also save close to $100 on mobo and not really lose anything

$330 for 9700x is also not great. i'd be more inclined towards 7700/x for $100 less. like 5% weaker gaming performance, pretty negligible

[static skiff]

thank you!

what gpu would you recommend instead?

[frigid edge]

Rtx 6900

with 67gb of vram

420w power

[mental hazel]

9070 xt goes for around $650 these days and is very close in performance. less vram, but much more efficient and with better feature support. alternatively 5070 ti is $750, a smidge stronger, and has an even stronger feature set (drivers are currently a bit unideal though)

[frigid edge]

get the 6950xt it’s goated

[static skiff]

ive got one and its pretty epic

its like 3 generations old at this point though so i dont want to recommend it for such a high budget build

[mental hazel]

this alt list saves about $400 before considering GPU, which you can also save money on, or invest rhat $400 into and get something even stronger

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WqpBkf

the only real compromise is on the CPU, which will be again like 5% weaker in games. which tbh i consider a nonfactor :P

note that you will struggle to find 7700/x for $200 new, but they're regularly availabled used/open box for that price

[static skiff]

wouldnt the gpu be the bottleneck at that point anyway?

[snow dragon]

why 4 sticks

[mental hazel]

i assume aesthetics. it was four in the original list so i just kept it them same

shouldn't make a difference at that speed anyway one would hope

[static skiff]

idk i figured that he probably wouldnt ever need 128gb

[mental hazel]

yeah unless they're playing at 1080p or smth, in which case it's all an exercise in futility because they'd not notice the difference between this build and something for less rhan half the price lol

[snow dragon]

6000 4 sticks will be rough

[static skiff]

whats your recommendation instead?

[snow dragon]

fella just needs to accept the two stick reality

[mental hazel]

if it's not an aesthetic consideration i would do 2x32 as well

[static skiff]

okay sure

[mental hazel]

edited list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7yKXDj

[snow dragon]

if it is so wanted you can get dummy sticks

but trust

4 sticks is not the move anymore

[static skiff]

im personally not a fan of rgb ram anyways

[fallen sphinx]

ew

[frigid edge]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-gif-1875165470754912302

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yvDZNz

literally just better and cheaper

if you need 64gb use 2x32

[deep spruce]

No My last rig I had I never used the CPU Cool Fan I used Liquid Cooling

[static skiff]

okay. you would be fine with the stock cooler though

[static skiff]

hows this? i removed storage because idk what he really want yet. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FCgBkf

[fallen sphinx]

ew no

[static skiff]

blud

whats wrong with it

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cZjHC8

[fallen sphinx]

quite literally every single part selected is overpriced

[snow dragon]

What will he use the computer for

[fallen sphinx]

if its gaming get rid of the 64gb

[mental hazel]

congrats you made the same list with a different board and less ram lol

literally everything else is negligibly different

[static skiff]

Is the 7700x worth the extra money compared to the 9600x?

[mental hazel]

how much extra is it?

i'd pay like $20 or whatever but realistically i would't want to pay a huge premium for a worse gaming CPU. albeit only slightly. and the extra 2 cores are nice

i do also question how much ram you need. 32GB is often fine and will free up some additional budget

[static skiff]

Yeah he's doing pretty light gaming anyways, so 32gb is plenty

[mental hazel]

just grab this and whatever GPU you settle on

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qgVWFZ

[static skiff]

I remember hearing not good things about thermaltake psus, so I think I'll swap that out for the montech or corsair ones

They rank well on the PSU tier list

[mental hazel]

nobody makes PSUs, they all rebrand OEM models from a handful of primary manufacteres. the gf1 is one of the highest rated units for its price bracket

[static skiff]

Also idk if he wants to risk buying used stuff, even though the CPU rarely has issues. The 7700x is $262 and the 9600x is $184. I'll do some research about these cpus paired with different gpus

[mental hazel]

used CPU is pretty chill, but if he's set on new, 9600x is def preferred rather than overspending on new-old stock 7700/x

with that caveat and whatever GPU you end up grabbing, you have a very nicely balanced build going for you

me personally i'd go for 5070 ti if you're in a rush to build. if this is more of a future thing, perhaps consider waiting and seeing what RTX 5000 super pricing looks like

5070 ti super is supposed to be more or less a 5080 24GB, so potentially worth waiting for if not in a hurry to build

[static skiff]

Thank you so much for your help! You're much more helpful than the guy who just says "ew"

[mental hazel]

quok is a good fella, he's just a man of few words

[snow dragon]

He does seem to have an offended reaction when he sees something that is not "perfect" in his view

[fickle bolt]

Ahhh quok's a good guy

Knows his stuff

[stoic island]

(The humble superflower PSU)

[drifting fractal]

Someone tell me how much I dont know about pc building

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wfC8Dj

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($476.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: HYTE THICC Q80 Trio 105.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($349.99 @ HYTE - OOS)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX X870E-E GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($478.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($248.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK SN8100 w/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($299.99 @ SanDisk - OOS)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card ($989.00 @ Amazon)
Case: HYTE Y70 Touch Infinite ATX Mid Tower Case ($399.95 @ iBUYPOWER)
Power Supply: SeaSonic VERTEX PX-850 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($335.36 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: HYTE THICC FP12 105.8 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack ($109.99 @ HYTE)
Case Fan: HYTE THICC FP12 105.8 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack ($109.99 @ HYTE)
Total: $3798.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-10-04 22:36 EDT-0400

[stoic island]

Is this a build you're buying secondhand?

[drifting fractal]

yes

is it woth it?

[stoic island]

At what price?

The GPU only being a 4070 super holds it back tbh

[drifting fractal]

3k, they are basing the price off of pcpartspciker

[stoic island]

Yea no not for a used build like that

[drifting fractal]

would it be better just to build my own?

[stoic island]

For performance, you can get equivalent performance to that in gaming for like ~$1500

[mental hazel]

real, one of the only first parties you can actually buy from

[mental hazel]

why are we spending $800 on board and cooler 😭

[mental hazel]

no that's highway robbery

[stoic island]

Made a quick list for reference, this would perform better in most games for basically half the price, and you can swap out the 9070xt for a 5070/ti if you want to, still performs better than the 4070 super
Similar type of fishtank case, albeit without the touchscreen that made the y70 touch so overpriced, threw in a 360mm aio with an lcd display for parity with the listing
Don't really need x3d here, but threw in 7800x3d just for parity with the listing (<5% difference with 9800x3d, definitely not enough to make a difference when not paired with like a 5090)
Threw in 2x32 6000c30 for parity with the listing, even though you really don't need 64gb for gaming
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wf4pC8

[drifting fractal]

what does x3d mean?

[mental hazel]

it has a bunch of extra level 3 cache stacked atop, or in this case, beneath the CPU

[stoic island]

AMD has a lineup of x3d chips with that moniker at the end of the name of the product, it's to signify that it uses their 3d vcache tech, they stack more l3 cache vertically, it just means better performance but it costs more to produce

[mental hazel]

more cache means the CPU can prefetch more data and have it on hand as it needs it rather than doing a fetch from memory, which is much much slower

it helps with certain applications a lot, others not so much. gaming benefits considerably

[deep spruce]

A question on a Power Bo for my New Rig can I swap https://www.newegg.com/msi-intel-atx-12v-650-w-80-plus-bronze-certified-power-supply-black-mag-a650bn/p/N82E16817701013?Item=N82E16817701013 to https://www.newegg.com/msi-atx12v-650-w-80-plus-gold-certified-power-supply-black-mag-a650gls-pcie5/p/N82E16817701034 ?

[fallen sphinx]

Everything else is better and cheaper

[fallen sphinx]

No

[fallen sphinx]

I would look into getting an actual upgrade on the wattage if you change a psu

And you can get a good quality 850w for 85$ rn

[deep spruce]

An its Gold right?

[fallen sphinx]

Gold doesn’t matter but yes it is

[deep spruce]

Care to share the Link

[fallen sphinx]

Ye ye 1s

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sqbypg/montech-century-ii-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-ii-850w I finally forgot about this my bad

[deep spruce]

Heck Ya I like that better then the last 2

An that will work in my Rig Case Correct https://www.newegg.com/phanteks-mid-tower-steel-chassis-tempered-glass-window-abs-plastic-computer-case-black-ph-xt523p1-dbk01/p/N82E16811854133

[fallen sphinx]

yes also nice case pick

[deep spruce]

Thank you very much

[fallen sphinx]

I mean I do correct it

Or I just forget to respond

[fallen sphinx]

And his list is worse

😭

[pseudo forge]

Hello, what would be the best upgrade for a am4 mobo. Currently have a 5600x with a 4080

Don’t wanna spend too much now because later down the line will be upgrading mobo and ram

[fallen sphinx]

getting onto am5

[snow dragon]

Either you get a 5700x3d or move to am5

[weary galleon]

If you're planning to do that, go ahead and move to AM5 now.

[snow dragon]

Depending on the ram and board maybe only the 5700x3d is needed

[weary galleon]

If can get a 5700x3d for a decent price and plans to keep it for a while, sure

[vagrant anvil]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XnzfQd

Can anyone lmk on this build ^^

[frigid edge]

alr lets see

[frigid edge]

its not bad

if you dont plan on upgrading gpu in the future then you can get a lower wattage psu

[vagrant anvil]

I do plan on it

[frigid edge]

noice

[vagrant anvil]

Wnated the headroom so

[frigid edge]

with the ram, you might be fine with getting 6000 instead of 6400 and save 25 dollars

[vagrant anvil]

Just honestly futureproofijg there, and I think that speed would make a difference with AAA games too

[frigid edge]

and i dont recommend samsung, you can get a 4tb drive for much cheaper

[frigid edge]

marginal difference

W cooler choice tho

[vagrant anvil]

Yeah I saw the silicone one u suggested but I did some research and

I mean the Samsung benefits looked way better

Speeds the cache ect

Idk lmk tho

[pseudo forge]

Would a 4080 with a 5700x3d be good for gaming 1440p: warzone apex bf6

[frigid edge]

if its a brand new pc you are building, try to get 9700x or 7800x3d

But if its a used pc then yeah thatll run it easily

[mental hazel]

even a lateral sidegrade to 7500f or something would be preferable. roughly the same average performance (stronger in some games, weaker in others) with the added cost savings of being on AM5 already whenever an upgrade is needed

no reason to spend a bunch of money on a dead board and ram just to have to purchase even more expensive ram and a new board a few years down the line. b650 is dirt cheap anyway, and DDR5 isn't that expensive anymore

[weary galleon]

Bf6 will likely benifit from an 8 core so 7700x might be the play

[mental hazel]

7500f should be on par with 5700x3d in multithreading

zen 4 was a solid upgrade, it was just overshadowed (in games) by the existance of x3D. the non 3d zen 4's weren't really an upgrade over really cheap 58/700x3Ds

[weary galleon]

7500f is 6 core though

[mental hazel]

and each individual core is faster

[weary galleon]

Bf6 min spec is 3700x so I think they’re aiming for 8 core cpus

[mental hazel]

a 7500f absolutely crushes a 3700x in multithreading lol

[weary galleon]

Oh wait 3700x is recommended not minimum, whoops

Yeah 7500f will be good

[fallen sphinx]

If they alr have a 5700x3d no reason to change though

[fallen sphinx]

You can lower costs a lot

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JWtNdb

And 7800x3d/9070xt would also be much better value

[weary galleon]

Yes, I couldn’t tell if they were building or already had it though

[fallen sphinx]

yeah

[leaden raft]

https://www.newegg.com/fractal-design-atx-mid-tower-steel-case-charcoal-black-fd-c-nor1c-01/p/N82E16811352203?Item=N82E16811352203&cm_sp=product-_-from-price-options

hows this case? I have a 5950x and a 3070ti with a micro motherboard currently in too small a case and i wanna do some work on the pc as im having performance issues so wanna put it in something bigger so its easier to work on

[mental hazel]

positively reviewed by GamersNexus iirc. tbh you should just watch the review if you actually care about cases haha

i just buy the cheapest thing that comes with fans

[fallen sphinx]

good but really expensive

[zealous moth]

should i get a 7900XT for 550 USD or a 9070XT for 722 USD

it's for 1440P

and the CPU is 7700

[mental hazel]

either or, depends on the kinds of game you play

FSR 4 is amazing, but at a certain point the value proposition if the 7900 xt is so much better that it may be worth forgoing

[pseudo forge]

Is there any tool out there that can like scan my PC to see what the issues are and performance im getting.

[tough shell]

Looking for 2 monitors with a relatively small base that one could use for gaming. Pref 4k (though less would be ok), with a budget of 300-400 per. My current monitors work fine but are getting old and I'm thinking of upgrading sometime in the near future (maybe after christmas, in January or smthn). Currently using the Samsung U28E590 as my primary monitor and my LG 25UM58-P as my secondary. Would prefer no ultrawides

[fallen sphinx]

you should only need 1 good monitor no/

[tough shell]

I use 1 for gaming, the other for when im chatting and working

2 monitors >>>> 1

[stoic island]

What's your current GPU

And I'd do one good monitor and one cheap monitor

I'm running one good OLED panel and one older IPS panel

[fallen sphinx]

yeah then get one good one and one other one thats just there

and also get a monitor stand

[stoic island]

Also if you're only going to buy them in January, don't buy what we recommend now in January, ask again in January

[tough shell]

monitor stand doesnt work with my current desk, it's a shite wally world desk

[stoic island]

Vesa arm not an option?

[tough shell]

Is that the wall mount one? I can't mount anything to my walls as I'm in a rental rn

I have approx 2-3cm of clearance for a clamp on the back on my desk rn

[stoic island]

Nah, desk mount ones like this

Just have your main monitor on the desk as usual, and mount another one with a desk mount arm

[zenith cargo]

is 110c hotspot normal? 💀

I also get static like artifacts when having multiple tabs open and moving them around, screen flickers too

last week I also got a bunch of bsods and stop codes on sum about "kernel"

fans are at the max too

[fickle bolt]

what cpu, mobo, cooler u usin bro

[mental hazel]

it's the thermal throttle point on AMD GPUs, most CPUs shouldn't get this hot. really we need to know what hardware you're working with

best guess is probably a bad paste and/or mounting job

[zealous moth]

okay i have a few choices of GPUs

and it's pretty hard for me

i'm gonna list them off

this is for 1440P at above 120 fps

7900 GRE for 523
7900XT on Jawa for 550 (might be gone)
9070 for 650
9060XT for 421
And a 9070XT for 752

all paired with a 7700

there is a small chance that i can get a 7900XT for 434 dollars

but not likely

[mental hazel]

are you outside of US?

[zealous moth]

Yes

But I’m getting my 7900 gre if we go with that from the us or Canada

[mental hazel]

gotcha. i won't be much help with shopping around then unfortunately. of those options i'd lean towards 7900 xt or 9070 depending on your preference

[zealous moth]

I see

Yeah a 9070XT is way to expensive for me

I have seen this 7900XT at 423 dollars

So

Yeah

Thanks

[mental hazel]

it is an excellent deal if you can get it for that price

[zealous moth]

I’m getting all my funds in December

And it’s on marketplace

So

Lmao

[mental hazel]

oh yeah lol, priced will probs be different by then

[snow dragon]

no

[abstract hearth]

can i getnsome help on pc part shoppinf

im kinda new to pc so i dont really know what to get

[crimson zinc]

What’s your budget?

And what do you plan on using the pc for?

[abstract hearth]

around 1800-2000

[abstract hearth]

mainly gaming , school work ? sometimes streaming

like

friend streaming not actual streaming

[crimson zinc]

How high of resolution are you looking for? 4k, 1440p, 1080p?

[crimson zinc]

We make no mistakes here

[snow dragon]

Well you are definitely not getting a 2k pc for 1080p thats for sure