building-and-recc-chat

[plucky timber]

I mean it's not

It's just worse than the B650 Eagle

[split cliff]

i don’t even know what u guys are talking about lol

[snow dragon]

Looks like the card doesn't play well with some wifi 7 routers which is weird

Yeah just get the b650 then wtv

[snow dragon]

I was just wondering if there was a board not much more expensive with a certain wifi card I was eyeing

Better to stick with the b650

[plucky timber]

It seems like it'd be cheaper just to literally get the b650 eagle and slot in an AX210 if the MTK plays out

Which it might not

Depends on how they use it

[snow dragon]

Yup there is one on amazon for $24 but they have a discount that brings it down to 21

[plucky timber]

I have all intel cards rn but my MTK was fine

Until the strix cooked it

[snow dragon]

I got one for myself and my brother

[plucky timber]

I wasn't aiming for performance so

[snow dragon]

Mine was good until recently when it started to drop packets randomly

[plucky timber]

There is that

[plucky timber]

Ok the thing is dying lmao

MTK moment

[snow dragon]

Yup

[plucky timber]

But yeah, AX210 replacements are cheap

Even comes with a pcie x1 adapter

[snow dragon]

I would load a website and get hit with no internet, then refresh once or twice

Lmaooo

[plucky timber]

I'm tempted to get an ax210 for my gaming laptop but it literally doesn't matter it's plugged in all the time

So ironically my older laptop with a kaby lake gets the AX210

Because it actually uses wifi

And my gaming laptop gets the old wifi card from that machine

https://www.amazon.com/WiFi-6E-PCIe-WiFi-Card-for-PC/dp/B0B4VH4G1C/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=HK2XTHD4FGSA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.6D2LYWZVC_uZSKJiRzlRNGfeiAx2n1G9oljZsxzkVP6QCVSyFMby04S4oN3_tq04iiVHQHMdcHbSsF2g2GB1byP_XHkb-JeYa4mdURxEOhp9Z2vFupyRAI3ZUQiNJQIe3KNlOLycD0bjWJwPeH-QpzSteDjpymZFaPb33wFCq1SpkbJre52OEUIbLneJ0NQdeAMwl7vFpAa5DdsPK5TCtw.htk3Bb5Rk90c4LZaQUnEhmxbqn3oQv2e5pu_MEAOviI&dib_tag=se&keywords=ax210&qid=1758526792&sprefix=ax2%2Caps%2C406&sr=8-4

[split cliff]

it’s so late here so i’m going to bed. i appreciate the help guys. just lmk which mobo buy…?

(prefer a mobo that’s compatible with cpu/gpu and has built in wifi)
price can be higher if needed 👌

[snow dragon]

https://a.co/d/bghegn6

[plucky timber]

Hmm

In this case

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9xYfrH/gigabyte-b850-gaming-x-wifi6e-atx-am5-motherboard-b850-gaming-x-wifi6e

What about this though

2x6 phase and RTL wifi card

I mean most of these boards are realtek

Or MTK

Realistically you're not gonna have a built in intel

If the realtek isn't just gonna die

I'd just get that

[minor prawn]

Hello! I bought a gaming PC a while back and I'm now looking to upgrade, but I'm kinda dumb and I have no idea where or what to start with. Is there anyone that would be kind enough to review my current PC specs and advise what I should prioritise upgrading? Thank you so much!

[stoic island]

Just send it here and we'll take a look, we'll also need to know budget and purpose for upgrade

[minor prawn]

Thank you! Budget is not something I'd considered too heavily. Just looking for better performance for gaming now and in the future.

CPU: Intel® Core™ i9-9900K - 8-Core 3.60GHz, 5.00GHz Turbo - 16MB Cache + UHD Graphics, Ultimate OC Compatible
MOTHERBOARD: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon: ATX w/ RGB, USB 3.1, SATA3, 2x M.2 [+60]
MEMORY: 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4/3000mhz Dual Channel Memory [+58] (Corsair Vengeance LPX w/Heat Spreader)
POWERSUPPLY: Corsair RM850x 850W 80+ Gold Modular Gaming Power Supply [+61]
VIDEO: MSI GeForce® RTX 3070 8GB - Ray Tracing Technology, DX12®, VR Ready, HDMI, DP - 4 Monitor Support (Single Car

[stoic island]

Any specific games?

Depending on budget and specific game, it'll either be upgrade CPU/mobo/ram and GPU, or just a GPU upgrade for now

[minor prawn]

I don't have any in mind, but for example I'd like to play RDR2 with higher settings. My FPS is currently terrible if I try max graphics.

I'm happy to upgrade everything, but I didnt want to just upgrade GPU if my current mobo won't handle it, you know?

[stoic island]

The mobo is fine for most GPU upgrades, just not any of the x4/x8 cards or like a 5090 because of bandwidth

[minor prawn]

So I wouldn't break things if I just upgraded my GPU - and that'd give me better FPS on higher graphics settings?

[molten pebble]

I'd love to chime in here

I'm gonna look at this from a much broader perspective, rather than just "should I upgrade X or Y"

Your CPU is the fastest CPU they made for that CPU socket, and the motherboard you currently have is really, really good for that CPU socket. Generally speaking when it comes to the used PC parts market, the fastest CPU for any given socket will sell for substantially more - cuz you'll come across people who want to "max it out" with their current PC. Like for instance if they have a Core i5 8400, your 9900K would max their system out.
The RTX 3070 isn't a bad GPU at all. The primary thing with the 3070 is that it only has 8GB of VRAM, so yeah when you go to run higher graphical settings, the textures will overload the VRAM capacity and you'll have a bad time. If you're going to upgrade the GPU, you want to go with something above 8GB.
My personal recommendation, depending how far you wanna go with this, you would theoretically be able to sell that CPU and motherboard separately from one another for approximately $150-200 on the CPU, and $100-150 on the motherboard. That alone would get you enough money to buy one of the Socket AM5 combos from Micro Center with a current Ryzen CPU, motherboard, and RAM. That's absolutely the direction I would go with your primary components - because upgrading to a considerably newer GPU than your 3070, your 9900K CPU will start to hold you back. And like I said there's no upgrading that without changing your motherboard anyway.
Then I'd try and snag a current GPU with minimum 12GB VRAM, preferably 16GB. Your budget for that is the primary thing to consider, an RTX 5070 / 5070 TI or an RX 9070 XT would both be gigantic upgrades over what you currently have, and would keep up with new releases for several years - but those GPUs do cost about $550-750 depending on individual model. All of that said you could sell your 3070 on the used market for 250-300 to recoup some of the costs - and your power supply is more than enough for any of those GPU options at 850W.

[split cliff]

good morning! so is this good to buy everything now? is the wifi worry resolved?

[minor prawn]

I'll take a good look at this when I've got a bit more time, but wanted to say I rly appreciate the detailed response, ty!

[stoic island]

The paths I would look towards depending on budget from high to low is first, 9800x3d on am5 with ddr5 and the best GPU that fits in the budget, somewhere between 9070xt and 5090. Next option is just standard am5 with a 7700x or equivalent with ddr5, then something like a 9070xt GPU wise. Last option is just a GPU upgrade, something like a 9070xt straight up. I don't feel like anything less than a 9070xt is a significant enough upgrade from 3070

And yea I agree with Doug, 9900k is the best you can get on lga1151, there's no CPU only upgrade path for you, you'd have to replace the entire platform, especially since current platforms are on ddr5 now. If you're swapping it out, currently am5 is the best option, and microcenter has nice deals on bundles in general if you live near one.

Even though 3070 is still quite a capable GPU, current games keep getting more and more intensive, mostly on the GPU end and still some but less so on the CPU end, so the one singular upgrade should still be a GPU upgrade.

[minor prawn]

So I could get the GPU now and save the mobo and CPU upgrades for a later date. Got it! Thank you both so much

[frigid edge]

aint there a 9900ks

or was that only for newer ones

[stoic island]

Yes but practically the same chip with a slightly higher set freq, no real performance gain

[frigid edge]

oh

well if theyre at the same price then get the ks but if k is cheaper then get k

[stoic island]

Neither are worth getting right now

[frigid edge]

im going based off of the motherboard, of course they should go to am5 if possible

[minor prawn]

The real discussion is in whether I'm brave enough to attempt installing a new GPU myself 😝

[frigid edge]

Ah gpu installing is easy don't worry

besides putting in the cpu i'd say its the easiest part

[stoic island]

Easiest imo is ram, don't even need to screw anything in

[frigid edge]

new builders will be the most nervous with it besides the cpu since you have to press with force that bends the mobo

[stoic island]

There are plenty of guides out there, just double check your case clearance before you buy anything

[minor prawn]

It's just the ✨️ fear ✨️

[frigid edge]

have no fear

[stoic island]

Oh and it's probably worth waiting for sales since you already have something and upgrades aren't urgent

[frigid edge]

newegg discord users are here

[minor prawn]

Ty! I should be fine, the case seems huge. Lotsa space in that bad boy

[minor prawn]

Oh good shout

[stoic island]

Doesn't hurt to look up dimensions or measure with a tape measure, triple fan cards can get pretty big

I'm gonna start telling people to wait for Black Friday if possible for the next 2 months lol

Even though the sales aren't as good anymore, 10% off is 10% off

[minor prawn]

Me going to measure my case and realising he's so beyond dusty 😳

[stoic island]

Time to get some cleaning wipes lol

[minor prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cleaning-vacuum-ice-bear-working-spinning-gif-16666923

Anyway tysm for the help everyone!

[stoic island]

You're welcome

[molten pebble]

9900KS is virtually non existent

Nobody in their right mind would upgrade from a 9900K to a 9900KS

[frigid edge]

im looking now and dang its super expensive and 9900k is nonexistent

[minor prawn]

Hey I'm back, do you know which thing is making it so that Microsoft says I cant upgrade to Windows 11? Is it my mobo? I'm honestly surprised I cant

[molten pebble]

First step make sure the BIOS on your motherboard is updated to the most recent

[minor prawn]

Why Microsoft being mean??

Ohh

[molten pebble]

your BIOS might be from before Windows 11 existed

[minor prawn]

Yes okay I can do that! That's likely the case. Ty Doug!

Microsoft has been threatening me for a while so I need to sort it!

[molten pebble]

Once it's updated, if it still says it's not allowed, you'll need to check in your BIOS to make sure boot mode is on "UEFI" - if it's on Legacy/CSM, there's a lot of steps to fix it

If it's already on UEFI, then you'll want to make sure:

• Secure Boot is enabled
• Firmware TPM is enabled

you have an MSI motherboard I think? MSI has a search feature in the bios so you can easily find stuff

If it's not on UEFI yet, and it says boot mode is CSM or Legacy, check back with us bc there will be a little more work to get your drive converted from MBR to GPT partitioning

[stoic island]

Do you know what Mobo you have? Some older lga1151 mobos don't have tpm, newer ones you can just update bios and enable it in bios

[molten pebble]

Another question do you know how to update the bios

[minor prawn]

Got it. I've just finished work so I'm not gonna stress myself trying it tonight, but I'll report back with success or failure later this week!

[molten pebble]

MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon

[minor prawn]

Probably. I mean, no not immediately, but I'm confident I can google it and follow instructions. I did some bios tweaks when I first got the PC so it's not completely new to me

[stoic island]

Z390 should be fine, there are instructions online and in the mobo manual you can follow along to

[molten pebble]

The super short version is, you'll need a flash drive on hand. Download the newest bios file, if it's a ZIP file then extract it, put the file on your flash drive, and go in your bios. The update utility in the BIOS will be called "M-Flash"

and you use that, select the BIOS file you put onto the flash drive, and away you go

Often times, all the settings you need to enable for Windows 11 compatibility are on by default in newer BIOS revisions so you might not need to mess with it after

[stoic island]

I don't remember if MSI had the option on the older bios, but you may be able to update from a file on your drive for m-flash without needing a USB drive, but using a USB drive is the most reliable way

[molten pebble]

Technicaly

yes

do I recommend that, not really. lol

[stoic island]

Just an option if you don't have a USB drive laying around lol

[minor prawn]

Hypothetically, if I never upgraded to windows 11 would I be screwed by the lack of security updates?

[stoic island]

In a couple of months, potentially

[molten pebble]

As someone who has worked at: Circuit City, Best Buy, Micro Center, and now a small independent computer repair shop

I've seen a lot of people who have their computers messed up

and when it's software related stuff such as pop-ups, malware, etc it's almost always bc of security

whether that's they didn't have current antivirus running, or they were using Windows 7 in 2024

that's a real thing I saw

someone legitimately brought a PC to my work last year running Windows 7 and didn't realize it was not secure

The exact thing I always tell people is, if you use your PC for anything that you have to log into, I don't recommend keeping an old Windows version

There are people out there who don't

They just use it to look things up online and print stuff

[minor prawn]

Yeah, my grandparents and parents just.. don't know any of that.

[molten pebble]

The biggest one I tell people about is email.

[stoic island]

It's not optimal but it's not something that's switched on or off, you're not going to have malware installed right after security updates end, you're just a lot more exposed as time passes, and it'll become a problem as soon as a new 0 day comes to light and Microsoft decides not to make an exception to patch it

[molten pebble]

If you're running an old copy of Windows, and you happen to click the wrong thing when you google stuff. You know how they have the "sponsored" results. That's how they get a lot of people

[stoic island]

(Another reason why everyone should use adblockers lol)

[molten pebble]

Yeah, that's another thing too

[minor prawn]

Okay, so if I'm reasonably savvy with clicking links and I'm not really downloading things I shouldn't be.. I can probably chill for a bit longer

[molten pebble]

But email is the big one. I tell people - if you're running an old copy of Windows, accidentally click the wrong thing, and all of a sudden they get into your email. The email is like, what unlocks EVERYTHING else. Any password reset stuff gets sent to your email, so they can reset anything you have and get into all of it potentially.
Yes if you're careful and savvy you can get by without it for a while. That said, you have a Windows 11 compatible PC and it just needs settings changed, so there's no reason not to.

[stoic island]

I almost clicked an ad download button while trying to get DDU on a friend's PC a while ago, it's often very hard to tell what's what if you don't have an active adblocker, just common sense may not be enough. You have to always be careful.

[molten pebble]

Absolutely

DDU is free. Anytime you're downloading a free thing

there's gonna be ads and a bunch of DOWNLOAD HERE buttons

[stoic island]

The damn big green download buttons lol

Especially as someone that usually has an adblocker and therefore usually has more trust in the button lol

[molten pebble]

This is slightly off topic but it reminds me of a border crossing I saw online once. Guy was in a line to cross one of the European borders. There was a little machine to pay to get your passport stamped, and it was like 3 dollars. But they had a long line to these big, ostentatious kiosks where real people were helping, and it was like 50 dollars to cross. And because there was a long line, people were waiting in that line to pay to cross the border. And this vlogger was like, no the thing is over here for 3 bucks

[stoic island]

Point is, you're probably going to be fine for a while, but you're never immune, better be safe than sorry, upgrade when you can.

[molten pebble]

the $50 big stands with the people are the fake download now buttons LOL

[stoic island]

Honest guides? It was like a highway sticker to be allowed to drive on the highway iirc lol

[molten pebble]

I don't remember but it wasn't people in cars

they were on foot

[molten pebble]

Ideally, by October 14 yes

[stoic island]

This is what I'm thinking of
https://youtu.be/FsWcc-9KMEc

[molten pebble]

could be that

it's crazy

it's the IRL download now button

[stoic island]

True lol

[tame kindle]

My PC works and all but when installing a new gpu I heard a really scary CLANKK while inserting a gpu, it wasn't the click or anything, and my gpu and everything in my PC is running perfectly for over 2 weeks but just this clank sound that I heard sometimes haunts me, what could it be ?

Or am I just overthinking it

[frigid edge]

the gpu rear bracket hitting the case

if everything is fine now then it should be fine

but lemme see it just in case

[tame kindle]

Hitting the case? It was while it was inside and I was pushing it down

[frigid edge]

oh hm

[tame kindle]

I'm kind of in my aunt's

And everything worked fine like no problem at all

[frigid edge]

good

then dont worry about noise

[tame kindle]

So like what was the sound at all?

[tame kindle]

What if I broke something on my motherboard or gpu

[stoic island]

What kind of clank, scraping sound or hitting sound

Chances are it's just some piece of metal on the GPU hitting some piece of metal on the case or mobo

[tame kindle]

CLANKKK like imagine a really tough piece of plastic broke, that's the sound

[stoic island]

Snap sound?

[tame kindle]

yeah something breaking, hard piece of plastic y breaking sound

don't say it's bad now

[stoic island]

Double check that the latch is okay

If it's a plastic sound it's probably just the latch tab thing

[tame kindle]

I never got to hear the click of the latch at the end

[stoic island]

The click of that latch is usually very quiet

[tame kindle]

Someone in this chat told me if I flip it upside down and my gpu doesn't fall, I should just screw it in

[stoic island]

Just double check that you didn't break it on insertion

[tame kindle]

And so I did and like really, everything is working perfectly

[tame kindle]

So like the thing that could've been broken is the latch right ? Even if it is, should be really cheap to replace

the gpu plastic on the pcie connector looks weak I thought a piece of it might broke

[stoic island]

It's not relevant for performance

It's just there to help hold it in

[tame kindle]

So, should I continue to worry about it or meh

The sound was really scary like a CLANK breaking snapping plastic sound

[stoic island]

Just means to be careful when you're transporting it or you may want to use a sag bracket or stand or anything like that

Assuming it was a plastic snapping sound, at worst it's a piece of plastic that broke off the pcie tab or your GPU

[tame kindle]

of the gpu?...

But wouldnt I notice something..

[stoic island]

The plastic tab on the end doesn't do anything electrically

It's just there to hold it in

[tame kindle]

Oh that, that uh thin looking long ish yeah, but I didn't see anything broken or fallen off while I flipped my case upside

Or inspecting the gpu I think

[stoic island]

Only way to check is to remove the GPU to see it lol

[tame kindle]

Nah I remember removing it multiple times

[stoic island]

Check the tab on the end of the pcie slot with the GPU removed

[tame kindle]

Oh right I took a video of it

Look

[stoic island]

It also could've just been that when you were inserting it for the first time, the tab wasn't fully open, and you just forced it in, and it could've just not been damaged

[tame kindle]

I took it to show someone they said it looked fine

[stoic island]

GPU looks fine but can't see the slot clearly

[tame kindle]

Don't really have any picture of it

but the gpu should be fine right ?

[stoic island]

ye

[tame kindle]

and the slot ehh, I mean everything works ?

[stoic island]

if it works it works

those parts don't matter for performance anyways

[tame kindle]

Alr then, thanks

[stoic island]

crappy mspaint illustration for what could've happened

too lazy to draw it better but you probably get the point

it would've bent the pcie tab thing slightly and when it bent enough for it to go in, it could've made a sound almost like plastic snapping

[frigid edge]

bro thats better than what i could draw

[fickle bolt]

wait you did that in paint? i thought it was a compilation of photos

[stoic island]

kek

[fickle bolt]

it looked so real...

[molten pebble]

I wanted to give one further update for @stoic island and @minor prawn

Windows 10 security updates are ending October 14 unless you enroll in the extended support program.
The extended support program is $30 per year UNLESS you use Microsoft OneDrive, and then it's free. That even applies if you just sign up for the 5GB free plan with OneDrive. So there is a way to continue receiving updates for free, but you need to use a Microsoft Account with OneDrive.

[stoic island]

They're being weird with how it works, reportedly $61 for year 1

This is the base license and will cost $61 USD per device for Year 1, similar to the Windows 7 ESU Year 1 price.[1] It is now available through Volume Licensing and will be available through Microsoft Cloud Solution Provider (CSP) partners beginning September 1.

Not sure if the OneDrive backup for free ESU is available for everyone, it was only available to insider versions previously

[molten pebble]

$61/year applies to VLK's

Retail and OEM license keys are reportedly $30/year according to Majorgeeks

[stoic island]

Oop looks like the free one year ESU is available to everyone now..? We'll have to see if anything changes from now on

[molten pebble]

That first option is signing up for free onedrive lmao

That's literally what that is

[frigid edge]

is there a way to stop making my pc tell me to back up

theres way more than 5gb of files on here

[molten pebble]

I think you can go in the notification center and disable OneDrive

at least from notifications

[frigid edge]

nice

[stoic island]

Yea, looks like it's rolled out to everyone now

[fleet pagoda]

Can anyone recommend a good prebuilt pc for under $1400?

[frigid edge]

I recommend

do not get prebuilt

[molten pebble]

Why do you want a pre-built?

There's reasons to get one and I'm seeing if it makes sense for you. Also curious what you plan to use it for

[plucky timber]

@split cliff https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q3pGQd

This list was actually fine

I checked the motherboard again and it doesn't even have a MTK adapter

[frigid edge]

they gonna use the dlss and upscaling?

[plucky timber]

Doesn't matter

It's not bad value... Relatively speaking

And they have the budget for it

[frigid edge]

eh the goal should be to save money for the buyer when possible

like go based off their needs and not thou's

[split cliff]

should i list a summary of what i need

[plucky timber]

He'd also take a performance loss if he went for a 9070

9070XT isn't that much cheaper

Not really that compelling of an option

The list is fine as is

[split cliff]

so there’s no wifi problem on this correct? i build the pc and install drivers and windows will have wifi / bluetooth available?

[plucky timber]

Not sure

It's safest to download wifi drivers from the motherboard manufacturer's website

Usually windows comes with a generic driver

But sometimes that doesn't work

[split cliff]

yeah if i install from manufacturer

wifi will work?

i was reading earlier convo and u guys mentioned soldering or smth idk how to do any of that

[plucky timber]

Eh?

[frigid edge]

it does have wifi

wait

[plucky timber]

The concern we had was with a MTK wifi adapter

Which I later found out

[frigid edge]

i didnt read the "problem"

[plucky timber]

It doesn't even have

So it wasn't a problem to begin with

[frigid edge]

oh lol

[split cliff]

ah ok

so list is good to go

[plucky timber]

Got trolled by cloud

[plucky timber]

Yes

[split cliff]

👍👍

thx!!!

ty for ur time

[frigid edge]

wait one second

[frigid edge]

may i make one suggestion

[plucky timber]

Yes

[frigid edge]

theres silicon power ram that is cl 32 i think instead of 28 but its same price and its 6400

[plucky timber]

No

[frigid edge]

not sure how much of a difference

[plucky timber]

A lot of zen 4/5 silicon can't run 6400 CL32 at 1:1

[frigid edge]

oh alr

what about the ssd, silicon power also makes a gen 4 2tb drive for 40 dollars less

[plucky timber]

You can try running the sticks at 6000 CL30/28 but then what's the point

[plucky timber]

No dram

[frigid edge]

ok educate me on the importance of dram plz

idk why its needed

[plucky timber]

Remember he's spending $2000 on the pc

[plucky timber]

Another time

[split cliff]

is it easier for u guys to just come up with a complete brand new list

i j need the gpu to be nvidia.
a good pc for games like god of war / wukong for under $2000

[plucky timber]

After I finish up with fuwachu

[frigid edge]

nah man its good list

[plucky timber]

No the list is completely fine

I don't know what he's on about

[split cliff]

XD

[plucky timber]

I just woke up and I need some coffee

[plucky timber]

https://www.xda-developers.com/how-important-dram-ssd/

It's always better to have dram in a SSD

Normally I'd go for HMB for lower budget builds for imo $2000 is not the price bracket where you want HMB

OP also stated that they wanted the pc to be worth every dollar

The most amount of penny pinching I did here was went from a $149 ssd to a $139 one

[stoic island]

Wouldn't make it that absolute, I'd take a E27t drive over E16 drive basically any day, performance depends on much more than just dram vs HMB

[frigid edge]

can you not make me look like an idiot

[stoic island]

It's just another factor, and generally not a deal breaker

[eager trench]

Ok so I need some advice (feel free to give more ideas) i have a HP Chromebook, my parents want a laptop instead of the desktop they have. I am open to trade to get the house desktop it has 8gb ddr4 and 512gb storage and a 12th gen i3, (some kind of HP desktop version, idk what tho) would I be able to stick some kind of graphics card in there and either game on it or sell it? It also comes with the monitor they bought for it, (1080p 27inch)

[stoic island]

Check if the PSU has extra pcie power cables

If not, it'll limit what you can put in there greatly

[frigid edge]

send some pictures

[eager trench]

Of the desktop? I gotchu

[frigid edge]

U able to give him a role?

[stoic island]

Nah

[frigid edge]

Hm

@sullen spoke ?

[sullen spoke]

go for it

[frigid edge]

im confused

[plucky timber]

That was not the intention

[frigid edge]

i dont intend to hit a worm when I stick my shovel in the ground

https://tenor.com/view/typing-fast-jim-carrey-gif-5315333

[plucky timber]

If you wish to continue this discussion, please do so in #general-chat

There is an ongoing tech the Support thread

[frigid edge]

whats to continue 💀

[frigid edge]

can you give zach role so he can post image

@eager trench

[eager trench]

hi

[sullen spoke]

i did

[frigid edge]

oh i didnt see

ty

[eager trench]

ok let me get one real qucik

[frigid edge]

now you can send pc pics

[eager trench]

The bad thing is that its the slim one

[frigid edge]

in that case i would just find a low profile 1650

[eager trench]

ok ty!

[frigid edge]

Np

1650 doesnt need a power connector and is decent enough for 1080p

[eager trench]

Ok, i would probobly upgrade ram and maybe storage

[plucky timber]

Would the intention be to sell it or keep it as a gaming machine

[eager trench]

I have a 5 5500 and 6400 amd gaming pc rn, so i dont really know yet. Most likely to sell to save up for this 2k build im hoping to get here soon

[plucky timber]

Imo if you're selling it

It's not worth upgrading

[frigid edge]

rx 6400 is wild

[plucky timber]

It's worth if you're keeping it

But not when you're selling

Too different scenarios here that changes up the value proposition entirely

[frigid edge]

My best advice on that second thing is save up 2k to build one not buy one

youll get better specs and looks for your money

and better feeling of accomplishment

[plucky timber]

Does not necessarily have to be $2000

[eager trench]

yeah i put a 2k 5080 build together on pcpp

[frigid edge]

ok nice nice just making sure

[eager trench]

i want to future proof like crazy tho lmao

[plucky timber]

Eh

That's generally a bad idea

With how fast tech advances in this industry

[eager trench]

i dont care abt looks, i just care about whats on the inside

[frigid edge]

so a sleeper nice

[plucky timber]

You'd be spending diminishing returns for a say, a GPU that will get outperformed in a couple years by the next GPU a tier lower

[frigid edge]

pure performance

[plucky timber]

If the intention is to future proof, it doesn't do that

[frigid edge]

what he means is go down in budget so he can make a pc thatll be great for now and have room for better upgrades

[eager trench]

It would certainly help tho

[plucky timber]

Not necessarily

Although that is a component of it

You can spend less money and eat the same pie

[plucky timber]

There's only a certain amount you can "future proof"

[eager trench]

So if i put some kind of graphics card in the workstation could i sell it for more?

[plucky timber]

It's not anything drastic

[plucky timber]

You're limited by the machine itself

You can't put anything in that'll be worth the GPU investment

The net profit probably won't be that much better (if at all) than if you're just selling the pc alone

These enterprise machines depreciate in value pretty fast

Especially if it's got a lower end cpu

However, if you decide to keep the machine, that's an entirely different scenario

[eager trench]

would it be able to run games 1080p 60fps?

[plucky timber]

Depends on the game

[eager trench]

uhhh

War thunder?

[plucky timber]

You can run that on an igpu

[eager trench]

Im probably just gonna keep it tbh, would it necessarily be an upgrade from what i have now?

[plucky timber]

In terms of...?

Gaming?

What are the specs of the Chromebook?

[eager trench]

I dont use the chromebook for gaming

[plucky timber]

What areas are you seeking an upgrade in?

[eager trench]

My victus hp with these specs

[plucky timber]

Er

No

Actually ehhh

It might be slightly better

But not worth the investment

[eager trench]

I can hardly run fortnight on lowest settings lmao

[plucky timber]

You'd be running fortnite at the slightly higher lowest settings

If you take this upgrade

It'd be better to upgrade the HP

Oh wait

I'm confused

Does it have an i3

Or a Ryzen

[eager trench]

The gaming pc i have right now, is a amd

cpu and gpu

[plucky timber]

Is that separate to the (other) prebuilt you have

[eager trench]

Wym?

[plucky timber]

.

[eager trench]

the other prebuilt is a workstation my parents bought like 6 months ago

with intel cpu

[plucky timber]

And the "workstation" has an i3?

[eager trench]

Yes

[plucky timber]

uh huh

Do you have complete specs of the gaming pc that you have

It'd be more worthwhile to just upgrade that

[eager trench]

Yeah

So i will probobly just sell the other one

[plucky timber]

There's also the matter of

"Is your gaming PC actually worth upgrading"

[molten pebble]

Ryzen 5 5500 with RX6400 is a crazy combo all things considered

This gets real technical real fast but the TLDR is

the RX6400 uses a Gen4 slot to communicate with the system, but it's a very narrow Gen4 link to the motherboard. However the Ryzen 5 5500 can only provide a Gen3 link so that's the bottleneck, and it winds up being a narrow Gen3 link to the RX6400

and gen3 is what most stuff used from like 2013-2019, it literally holds the rx6400 back. which is crazy to say

considering the rx6400 isn't that fast in the first place

the communication being only Gen3 is even worse than the RX6400 itself

[raven depot]

guys i wanna help my friend get a pc im curious about what cpu of ryzen and motherboard i should advice him for
like should he get r5 9600x or something else
he is on 1200-1300 budget
also what would be a good motherboard if he upgrades the cpu and stuff later
like b650 or b870 or x870

[mental hazel]

9600x is really cheap right now. you can also get 7700/x for about the same price. only about 3-5% weaker in games, and you get some extra cores. either option is fine. literally the cheapest B650 board you can find will be plenty, there is a $80 one in the tech deals channel rn iirc. and you can find decent models for like $60 open box on ebay all the time

[snow dragon]

I remember when 9600x was 150 at micro center

Walmart undercut amazon at 156, then amazon price matched a day or two later, then another couple days micro center did 150

[mental hazel]

i remember when 5700x's were $130 and 7700x's were $140 😔

heck, i remember when 3080's were $300 and 6800 xt's were $280

market is cringe now

[snow dragon]

[teal dome]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RfL4zP any suggestions?
Uses: lots of gaming, games like black ops and hella steam games

mobo is 90 rn, gonna buy and hold i think

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/34fhfd

Optimized the list a bit

Bit faster for $10 less

Explanation for changes:

CPU: 9600X is slightly better, the marginal price difference justifies it
GPU: 9060XT 16GB is around the same price as the 7700XT
RAM: 6000 CL30 > 6000 CL38
CPU Cooler: Slight price savings

[teal dome]

how is 9060xt better than 7700xt? genuine q

also is case fine? no pref on case, is there other good caseS?

[teal dome]

is the mobo fine to get?

[plucky timber]

Mostly more vram

It's more of a long term benefit

[teal dome]

ah alright, ill prob go for that then

[plucky timber]

It's more than fine

It's got 2x6 phase vrms

Would probably be fine with an X3D

[plucky timber]

Do you want price savings

Cases don't matter that much as long as you have air flowing

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sPCZxr/sama-3509-atx-mid-tower-case-3509bk

$10 cheaper

[teal dome]

ye as much as possible

[teal dome]

sheesh

ok thank u

[plucky timber]

It's a bargain for $90

[molten pebble]

@teal dome @plucky timber
I would further mention that:

• the cooler is overkill. Ryzen 5 9600X is only a 65W CPU, and there are plenty of options in the $15ish price point, such as the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Spectrum V3 when it's on sale (it's been as low as 9.99 on sale)
• the power supply is also overkill if you don't intend to upgrade to a GPU that takes more than about 300W in the future. That cutoff point means, the power supply you have selected is justifiable if you plan to go with a card that's at the level of a 9070XT/5070TI later. If you don't think you would, or if you think "Well if I had $700+ to spend on a GPU then I could probably buy a better PSU at that point" then you can save some serious money going with a 650W power supply, which will be more than enough for your 65W CPU and 180W GPU. Rosewill in particular has one on Amazon that's been 49.99 on sale recently with free Prime shipping
• If you wanted to reallocate those savings somewhere, you can make a small change to your SSD and get Silicon Power's US75 instead of the UD90, it takes full advantage of NVMe Gen4 speeds for only a few dollars more

[plucky timber]

Ehhhh it's also penny pinching at some point

Both the CPU cooler and (potentially) the PSU are components can be kept for a long time

I'd just spend the extra on the US75 without penny pinching tbh

These components are not ridiculously costly and does save money in the long run should he decide to upgrade

The PSU suggestion might be good if I could get a link to said Rosewill PSU

$49.99 is quite significant

[teal dome]

Is the Roswell psu modular? I am building it for my friend and I don't want any issues with cabling

[molten pebble]

https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Compatible-Semi-Modular-Connector-Capacitor/dp/B0FFPQ38QV?th=1

Semi modular. What this means is the primary cables you're guaranteed to be using will be hard wired - the motherboard power connections and possibly 1 of the GPU cables

also the 750W model is 55.99 if you really wanted a lil extra

750W model: https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Compatible-Semi-Modular-Connector-Capacitor/dp/B0FFPWFLFH?th=1

[remote fiber]

Package 📦 arrived just now 🙂

I kinda need to finish benching my 3600 before I steal the waterblock for this tho 😅

[frigid edge]

What cpu

[remote fiber]

9600x

[frigid edge]

Nice

[remote fiber]

Actually I just realized

My free cooler wasn't included

No wonder I'm short a cooler xd

[frigid edge]

sue newegg

[remote fiber]

Maybe it's 2 packages or something

yep 2 packages, other one won't be here until monday :/

oh well

[stoic island]

Looks promising but it hasn't been thoroughly reviewed yet, doesn't even have a cybenetics report

[molten pebble]

I wouldn't hesitate to use it with a 9060XT

especially with a 65W CPU

that's such a low-power setup

[fickle bolt]

pretty ram

[wicked obsidian]

Hello I’m planning to buy prebuilt pc but idk if this is good?

Windows 10 Storage 256GB SSD+500GB HDD Graphic gtx1650 Memory 16GB Intel i5 6th GEN

[fickle bolt]

we're always gonna recommend you build it yourself, almost universally cheaper

[wicked obsidian]

I live in Japan tho

Idk how to build one

[fickle bolt]

it's fairly easy, there are guides on youtube and many other places

if it's only possible to buy a prebuilt, that's a very old system at this point

[wicked obsidian]

Well I don’t wanna waste time getting parts 1 by 1

And I don’t know how to assemble them I’ll just use the pc to play games and work that’s it

[fickle bolt]

I mean like I said the building portion is fairly easy, but if you don't wanna do that that's fine

how much is this prebuilt you're looking at?

[fleet pagoda]

Would anyone know why i lose the option to connect to wifi on my pc? It doesn’t show in settings

Just finished the build yesterday

[wicked obsidian]

42,000¥

[fleet pagoda]

I installed the drivers yesterday and it was working but after i restarted it the option went away again

[wicked obsidian]

280$

[fickle bolt]

dang, I'd suggest upping that a bit if at all possible

[fickle bolt]

can you send me a screenshot?

[wicked obsidian]

Wdym

My budget is 600$

[fickle bolt]

ok perfect

$600 isn't much bui I might be abl;e to find a better one

[wicked obsidian]

Alright

[fickle bolt]

https://www.newegg.com/ningmei-gaming-desktop-pcs-geforce-gtx-1660-super-amd-ryzen-5-5500-16gb-ddr4-1tb-nvme-ssd-black/p/3D5-005R-00037

on sale for $550

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-002N-00085

Also that one, $600 when not on sale

[snow dragon]

550 is better

5500 is not much slower than the 5600g

While also having discrete graphics

[molten pebble]

Not every item on Newegg can be shipped to Japan

and this is one that can't

[snow dragon]

[molten pebble]

https://www.newegg.com/global/jp-en/cobratype-canebrake/p/3D5-000D-001W1
This is the only gaming-oriented PC on Newegg that is anywhere close to your budget and can be shipped to Japan. It's still over your budget, though.

It also uses the integrated Vega graphics of the Ryzen 5000G CPU, so its gaming performance will not be good. You'd be stuck playing indie games.

If you're in Japan, I highly recommend checking with local sellers in your area. Custom made PCs are quite common there, and you can buy something from a local shop for a reasonable price.
What I recommend is to ensure the CPU is either an Intel 8th generation or newer, AMD Ryzen 2000 series or newer, and try to get a video card either from GeForce 16- or 20-series, or a Radeon RX 5000 series or newer. I make these recommendations based on what currently still has driver support and works with Windows 11 officially, since Windows 10 ends mainstream support in 3 weeks.

[blissful relic]

Shot in the dark but does anyone have some ek magnitude am5 standoffs they could part with? I'm pretty sure i managed to buy the last set on the planet direct from ek and one of them broke while I was tightening my block down. I'm so close to finishing this build and this is really triggering me.

[crimson zinc]

Ask Jawa discord

[blissful relic]

A jawa would be helpful

[eager trench]

I need to know if I need to change anything before I buy, let me know if anything is wrong (I have a case and case fans that are compatible) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g9KMsp

[crimson zinc]

What’s the purpose

[obsidian wigeon]

That much ram isn't stable at 6000 afaik

Will need some fiddling

It might not even post

[plucky timber]

Four sticks is always finicky

Oh wtf it's vengeance

💀

[pseudo forge]

how do i fix microsoft defender snoozed and every app i open it says part of this app has been blocked

[frigid edge]

do you really need that much ram

and the aio is overpriced, get any 360mm thermalright and your thermals will be right

do not get corsair ram and do not get 4 sticks

get 2x64 or something

[fickle bolt]

Yeah I think I might get new ram, every crash my computer has had has been bc of the ram

[frigid edge]

Dang

[mental hazel]

aren't they the same die or am i tweaking

[fickle bolt]

(Which is exactly 3 times but still)

[mental hazel]

yeah they're the same die. the only diff is 5600g clocks 200mhz higher and has an iGPU

5600 non G is the one that's heaps faster bc it has the full 32mb of l3 (it's a chiplet)

5500 and 5600g are both the mono 16mb laptop rebrands

[snow dragon]

very brutal

[mental hazel]

oh wait you said NOT much slower, i'm losing it

[snow dragon]

it is marginally slower

[mental hazel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/142480770265513984/1131079237877637140/speed-4.gif

[snow dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1163915308260659293/1326556707073298432/VID_20250106_145855_848.gif

[mental hazel]

yeah i just misread ur message lol

[snow dragon]

how not red soup

[fickle bolt]

Suop

[mental hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bread-stealer-soup-bread-funny-cat-gif-2862795238579215613

[wicked obsidian]

I need someone’s judgement

Dm please

[molten pebble]

Whatever it is, if you post it here I can help you

but my DMs are closed

[wicked obsidian]

I will buy pre-build pc

Pls don’t judge I choose this way

CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X
GPU: RTX 2060 Super
OS: Windows 10 Home
Form factor: Tower
CPU: Ryzen 9
Graphics card series: RTX 2000 series
Graphics card: RTX 2060 SUPER
Storage type: HDD
Storage capacity: 2–3TB

Is this good? Only 300$

@molten pebble

I asked chatgpt he said it’s good for 95% of the games.

[frigid edge]

For 300 dollars yeah that’s a good deal but it’s giving more vibes of something someone else built and is used, not a prebuilt, am I correct

Also you don’t have to say Rtx 2000 series or ryzen 9 twice when Rtx 2060 super and ryzen 9 3900x already say those two things

And how much ram does it have

[zealous moth]

Hey i wanna have help choosing some cpus

i'm gonna game at 1440P

and with a 9070XT

i'm playing CS2 Persona 3 reload final fantasy remakes

[stoic island]

What's the budget

[zealous moth]

my current choices are 7900 VS 9600X VS 9700X

and here is my price chart is
7900 12990 NTD
9600X 7450 NTD
9700X 11500 NTD

[zealous moth]

like around 48000 NTD

or something like that

[stoic island]

I'd take the 9600x if you don't have prices for 7600x/7700x

[zealous moth]

oh hold on

7700 Non X is 7390 NTD
7600 is 6650

i'm also probably going to stream and maybe blender level stuff maybe

[zealous moth]

alr thanks

[stoic island]

Prob a 7700 then

[zealous moth]

Do you know how bug the diffrence is ?

[zealous moth]

Is it power efficent and runs hot ?

[stoic island]

Difference between what and what?

[stoic island]

7700 stock is relatively efficient and doesn't run very hot

[zealous moth]

alr that;s all i needed thanks

[zealous moth]

any Air cooler reccomidation for 9700 X?

was going for a

peerless assasian 120SE

[fickle bolt]

Whatever that huge aah noctua cooler is

[zealous moth]

but i have to pay 65 usd for it

[wicked obsidian]

The seller didn’t provide

[stoic island]

pa120se would do fine

[zealous moth]

i would be paying 65usd for it though

maybe Deepcool AK400 WH

[stoic island]

Where are you buying it from

[zealous moth]

PChome

but mostly phyically

at guang huang digital plazza

[stoic island]

yea prices look pretty terrible on there, probably just hope there are better priced thermalright products in person

[zealous moth]

fr ? never observed

Thermalmight peerless assasian 120SE
9700X
9070XT
Asrock Steel legend X870 or X870 Pro R
NZXT H6 Flow
Montech centruy II 85ow

boom

oh yeah

T-FORCE DELTA RGB DDR5 6000 32GB

Nvm

XPG Lancer blade ddr5 6000

[mental hazel]

7700 non X imo

similar performance to 9600x (5% weaker in games) but you get moar cores and it's cheap

[molten pebble]

$300 is a very good price for those specs

[mental hazel]

^

throw in an SSD and you're chilling

[tame kindle]

Why is my pc stuttering so much after i just installed my rtx 5060 and installed its drivers

like its unbearable

i dont get it

[tame kindle]

its not a game or anything, my entire pc keeps stuttering

[frigid edge]

did you uninstall the previous drivers

if not its ok

what cpu do you have

@tame kindle

[tame kindle]

previous drivers?

i think so ?

[tame kindle]

12700k

[frigid edge]

you dont think so

you know so

[tame kindle]

how can i check

[frigid edge]

did you run something called a ddu

[tame kindle]

I did, but it had many settings so im not exactly sure

[frigid edge]

ok first lets see if the problem is the gpu

unplug the displayport

and plug into motherboard instead

[tame kindle]

it happened right after i installed the drivers

it was fine while i was using integrated just yesterday

[frigid edge]

just try now so we can be for sure

[tame kindle]

like right before i installed drivers it was running fine no stuttering

now my pc is stuttering so much its unbearable to use

[frigid edge]

is the pc still on after installing, like no restarts or shut downs?

[tame kindle]

i rebooted twice, it also ge suddenly stopped during boot loading screen, then screen goes black and it shows lock screen, even as im writing this text i dontsee smooth i see one text and then suddenly bam 5 more words and so on

[frigid edge]

ok something probably went wrong during installation

one second

[tame kindle]

yeah

[frigid edge]

https://www.guru3d.com/download/display-driver-uninstaller-download/

install it again

but dont run it yet

are you on windows 10 or 11

[tame kindle]

wait so

i just opened marvels rivals

why isnt the game stuttering

[tame kindle]

11 pro

[frigid edge]

hmm

thats a good thing but lets try reinstalling anyway, couldnt hurt

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/254394/

[tame kindle]

oh btw

[frigid edge]

this is the 5060's windows 11 drivers

[tame kindle]

i reinstalled this using nvidia app once and it still sturtred

[frigid edge]

better to do it manually

[tame kindle]

i have the file

[frigid edge]

tell me when the driver installer is downloaded

[tame kindle]

wait

im not noticing anymore stutters

after booting up my game

Huh..

[frigid edge]

like now the games off?

[tame kindle]

no pc stutters

no game is running

but i alt tab

to discord

no pc stuttering now

[frigid edge]

well nice

problem solved

[tame kindle]

im confused tbh

i've used intel arc a580 for a year

rx 6700xt for a month

and just now my first nvidia

i expected nvidia to be the most stable no problems..

[frigid edge]

all rumors

[tame kindle]

and what the hell even caused those insane stutters

[frigid edge]

each company while some more than others will always have problems

[tame kindle]

nvidia is like the

iphone of gpu

So naturally you'd expect tthe biggest market holder to be the best

do you know what could've caused this stutters

[frigid edge]

was it happening just after the pc booted

[tame kindle]

yeah

[frigid edge]

you could have startup bloat then

go to task manager

startup apps

[tame kindle]

Oh

[frigid edge]

and lemme see

[tame kindle]

that i do have a lot of

okay this is odd

right after i closed my game stutters are back ?..

[frigid edge]

well then

go into task manager again and go to performance

er no not that go to processes

either one really

make sure nothings takes all your resources

if anything is near 100% then theres a problem

[tame kindle]

everything is below like 20%, processor is >5% ram is 40% and everything else like 0 ish near

[frigid edge]

if stuttering doesnt happen with igpu then its a weird gpu problem

[tame kindle]

and it got fixed

as soon as

i opened a game

[frigid edge]

i think you should ddu again and install again

[tame kindle]

and came back as soon as it got closed

[tame kindle]

I've had a amd before

[frigid edge]

me too

[tame kindle]

can it be some remnants

[frigid edge]

no, ddu erases all

wait a sec

[tame kindle]

what do i click with ddu ? like exactly theres a lot of settings so which how and stuff

[frigid edge]

when in the ddu you selected what gpu's drivers right

ok ok swtich to igpu and run the ddu

[tame kindle]

switch ti igpu ?

[frigid edge]

yes

[tame kindle]

like the DP?

[frigid edge]

once youve booted ddu, close every other ddu window except the main which is this

[frigid edge]

yup whatever connects your pc to monitor

put it in motherboard

[tame kindle]

So talking from my phone now

Pc just froze

After booting black myth wuking to test

[frigid edge]

why did u boot black myth wukong

[tame kindle]

To see how it'd do there

So the screen turned gray and then turned black now uhh

my PC is rebooting??

[frigid edge]

not to sound overcontrolling but you cant be doing random things while im trying to diagnose

[tame kindle]

Motherboard has lights on red

It's rebooting now automatically

[tame kindle]

Alr then

[frigid edge]

whats it doing now

[tame kindle]

My key oard and mouse turn on and off

Like twice

And it spinned a lot on the gigabyte

and it booted up now into lock screen

[frigid edge]

well then sign in

[tame kindle]

I did..

Running fine, no stutters yet..

And some stutters now..

And stuttering..

I restarted it and now screen is black with motherboard red light there..

Oh god..

And it turned on now

Strange motherboard light isn't turning off

[frigid edge]

which motherboard light

[tame kindle]

B760m gaming x ax gigabyte

[frigid edge]

wait which ways up

can you take it again but straight

[tame kindle]

Could it be that the gpu is damaged physically

[frigid edge]

looks like it says on the board 1 sec

[tame kindle]

It's the third, from left

[frigid edge]

under the lights it should say what it is

if you read from top down and left to right it would be the top right corner

[tame kindle]

Doesn't really I rebooted it and now it seems gone

[frigid edge]

it does

[tame kindle]

where? I can't really see, also the lights are off now after restart

Should I DDU ?

In safe mode ?

[frigid edge]

hold on

what does that say

bc thats the indicator for what the lights mean

[frigid edge]

oh nevermind its right next to the lights

[tame kindle]

I booted it up in safe mode and all stutters are gone

[frigid edge]

it is indeed a gpu problem

if thats the light that was on

[tame kindle]

Yeah but it's gone now it was on only for that boot

also in safe boot and there's no issue

[frigid edge]

theres always no issue in safe mode hence the name

but you need no issues out of safe mode

restart pc and log in and open the ddu but dont run it yet

[tame kindle]

Wait so out of safe mode ?

[frigid edge]

yes

[tame kindle]

Im in safe mode with ddu

Okay then

[frigid edge]

once you're in ddu

close all the ddu tabs that pop up except this one

[tame kindle]

I don't need to go into safe mode?

[frigid edge]

no

[tame kindle]

Okay then

[frigid edge]

then go to select device type

gpu

then under select device do all gpus

make sure you are doing all this with the monitor plugged into igpu

[tame kindle]

Oh igpu ?

[frigid edge]

yes

[tame kindle]

Let me shut it down right now then

And do that

It's.. not turning on..

Stuck with black screen and third red light

Oh after so much black screen it turned on

Yeah so now ddu ?

[tame kindle]

Next ?

[frigid edge]

yes

[frigid edge]

follow directions below this point and report back

[tame kindle]

Clean and restart ?

[frigid edge]

yup

[tame kindle]

Alr

[tame kindle]

Done

[frigid edge]

you selected all gpus?

[tame kindle]

All GPUs and clean and restart

[frigid edge]

in select device?

alr good good

[tame kindle]

Yeah

[frigid edge]

now reinstall nvidia drivers and make sure its not interrupted at all

[tame kindle]

So install the file or Nvidia app

By the way can this be because the gpu has physical damage ?

[frigid edge]

we will find out

use the file

[tame kindle]

Now that I don't have any drivers installed, it's n showing any stutters

[tame kindle]

yeah still stuttering, no luck

Also even the audio stutters with the gpu

[frigid edge]

well then rma your gpu

[tame kindle]

Rma?

[frigid edge]

...i said rma

so yes rma

[tame kindle]

Is it gpu confirmed ? Like a gpu problem cuz I said it before at someone else's PC it kind of ran fine

[frigid edge]

well if no problems happen when not using the gpu

and stuff doesnt work while using the gpu

then it gpu

[tame kindle]

Can I download previous drivers or so before this version?

[frigid edge]

in fact if you can still return it to where you bought it then I recommend getting a 9060xt instead

[frigid edge]

you can try

do you know how

[tame kindle]

Where can I ?

[frigid edge]

i dont know as I have not used a working nvidia gpu before

ask around in general chat

[wicked obsidian]

MSI G2412F

Is this monitor good?

I got it for 60$

Well it’s used but

He said only 1 time and he put back in the box

I also need a keyboard and mouse and recommendations? That is comfortable and good for esports

[weary galleon]

For $60 yeah that's good

[wicked obsidian]

Logitech G502 Lightspeed - 33$

Worth it?

[zealous moth]

Can Someone List the pros and Cons of some cpus let me list them off

7900
9600X
9700X
7700

[frigid edge]

cons: 7900x is a ryzen 9 and is overkill for gaming
pros: 9600x great for gaming at a moderate price
pros: 9700x and 7700 super great for gaming at a higher cost

[zealous moth]

For a around 1700 USD 9070XT 1440P and slight 3d modeling and editing build would you recommend 9600X, 9700X or 7700

[frigid edge]

9700x or 7700 whichever one you can afford

[zealous moth]

well the i can afford both and the 7700 is 100 USD cheaper but i want the efficent power draw and better cooling so do i pay 100 more for those or?

[frigid edge]

100 more than what, the 9600x?

[zealous moth]

9700X is 100 more then the 7700

[frigid edge]

then get the 7700

its still very powerful and the core count will help you

[zealous moth]

it is included with a cooler correct ?

[frigid edge]

no, it is a ryzen 7 so you will need to buy one I believe

the listing where you are buying it from should say if it does

[zealous moth]

oh damn

[frigid edge]

its safer to get a cooler anyway since itll be better than a stock cooler

[zealous moth]

well that was my push factor before

hmm

i think bout it

[wicked obsidian]

Is Logitech G502 Lightspeed good?

Worth the money?

[fickle bolt]

It's fine

I think

I wanna get the g502X lightspeed

[snow dragon]

over 100g
“Lightspeed”

[fickle bolt]

?

[wicked obsidian]

Lightspeed is not about weight
The speed of the sensor reaction

Lightweight is the right term for that

[snow dragon]

Damn

Cloud ownage

[frigid edge]

the people in rog discord are strange ngl

like lots talk like bots

or flat out know nothing or very little about PCs

[snow dragon]

republic of npc

[frigid edge]

Worse than Intel dc but at least THEY actually have a meme channel

Newegg one upped by asus is crazy

[snow dragon]

They know who we are

Eventually something nutty will be sent

[frigid edge]

It’s actually quite tame

Literally have nothing in my logs for that server

And the memes are boring, even Reddit class

I’m sure a channel here would be much different tho lol

[snow dragon]

it will be filled with some crazy shit and brainrot

[frigid edge]

bettt

[snow dragon]

if gen has had moments of brainrot spam where the mods clamp down on us

imagine a channel for that

[frigid edge]

absolute epic chaos

[tame kindle]

Is this graph bad since its so bumpy

[stoic island]

Only the high spikes that are alone in the middle

It's going to be bumpy by default

[tame kindle]

but when benchmarking its flat

[stoic island]

There are a lot less factors when you're benchmarking

[tame kindle]

in my graph like none of these are even relatively close, like one is half the size of another and one is twice the size and one is half and one twice, that pattern ish repeat, look

[fickle bolt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BRHg9C I think this is probably a pretty good budget build, nuthin fancy, can probably run fort at 120fps no problem.

[wide sparrow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZDng9C thoughts?

👀

wow. ok

[wide sparrow]

[fickle bolt]

[fickle bolt]

[wicked obsidian]

Chat I bought this keyboard

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m73221641447

worth it?

[fickle bolt]

whigh one should I get, G502 lightspeed or G502 X wireless?

leaningf towards G502 lightspeed because i have a regular g502

[limber bough]

Hey, i currently got a NZXT player one from about two three years ago and wanted to get a list to buy all new inside shit for it i have a i5,3050,and two sticks of ram (i dont know the rest of the specs would have to check) i think there 16. Not very tech savvy as far as getting good parts to go in the pc but was looking for some help and budget is 1000-1300

[frigid edge]

I am guessing you want to build a new pc

There really isn’t much you can do with an older prebuilt other than sell it but keep the storage device

Do you want to do that

[limber bough]

yea i was honestly thinking that was gonna be my best option but if im building a new one then the budget is way bigger

[limber bough]

like 2500 or so, i dont play games awhole lot but when i do i like to run them how i like and cant fully with this setup now

[frigid edge]

Alr so id say sell your prebuilt for like 400-500 dollars but keep the storage then,

Actually do you mind looking in task manager to see what specs exactly you have

CPU gpu memory

[limber bough]

yea i cn look for em

[frigid edge]

Thx

[limber bough]

12th gen indel i5-12400f,says 16.0 GB for mem, and gpu is rtx 3050

[frigid edge]

Alr that’s decent

Yeah 500 dollars should be safe

[limber bough]

aint to bad runs like a ps5

[frigid edge]

Do you now how to take out the storage

[limber bough]

no but nothing a youtube vid cant show

[frigid edge]

Well we need to see what kind of storage it is

In task manager does it say ssd or nvme

[limber bough]

oh okay

ssd then nvme is in ()

[frigid edge]

What are the capacities of each

Oh wait you mean both

[limber bough]

466 gb

[frigid edge]

Ohhh ok so there’s just an nvme

Can I see a photo of the pc looking into the side

[limber bough]

yea one sec

its not letting me send one, one sec

[frigid edge]

Oh right

@crimson zinc Give him role please

@wide sparrow You there?

[frigid edge]

when a mod gets online they can give you image perms

@autumn wolf

[limber bough]

okay gotchu

[wide sparrow]

just keep talking till your name changes color

then youll get the perm

[limber bough]

.

okay

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

i dont wanna spam it do i keep going

.

.

..

.

[wide sparrow]

sigh....

there

[frigid edge]

ty

[frigid edge]

theyre muted for 2 hours is it possible to unmute

so i can continue helping here

[rare plover]

Is the MSI Vector 17 HX AI A2XWHG-221IL - Cosmos Gray good

[crimson zinc]

@limber bough Fixed

[rare plover]

I7 255HX, 5070ti and 32gb of ram

I’d get a desktop but its really not up to me

[crimson zinc]

Depends on the price

[rare plover]

Ignore price vro

my father wants to buy through the university or something and they only allowed a laptop

[crimson zinc]

Oh then hold up

[rare plover]

Still no idea if it’s actually “free” or they just cut it from his paycheck

[crimson zinc]

@obsidian wigeon WE HAVE NEED OF THE EXPERT

ask foxy

[frigid edge]

tyvm

[rare plover]

If i cant get a desktop ig ima just get a gaming laptop and turn it into a desktop (monitor, hub, somehow boot it externally so i dont have to open it every time, and so on)

Mybe a cooling pad? Idk how good those things cool

[limber bough]

But yea my budget is 2000-2500

[crimson zinc]

Ask foxy when they come back
They’re much more knowledgeable than anyone with laptops that I know of

[rare plover]

Ok

[frigid edge]

Nice alr

[rare plover]

its 23:47 im not very eepy

[frigid edge]

Do you want a white build, black build, or a sleeper build

[rare plover]

But i need to wake up at 7

[frigid edge]

sleeper is black and pure performance, no rgb

[limber bough]

sleeper fs

[crimson zinc]

Hopefully foxy shows up soon

If not, does your dad need to order like asap? Or can he wait till tomorrow

[frigid edge]

aight youll get the best bang for your buck

[rare plover]

No it’s for my birthday so we got like a month or two

[frigid edge]

and are you ok with going with amd

[crimson zinc]

Oh then definitely wait for foxy

[rare plover]

can also go with a reg 5070 but only 8gb vram

[limber bough]

im not tech savy so honestly idk so im fine with it if its good

[rare plover]

Ok i eep now (or attempt to)

[limber bough]

i got no pref

[frigid edge]

Aight yeah amd stuff is the best for the money

[frigid edge]

k ima cook up a pc list

[limber bough]

bet👍

[frigid edge]

are you ok with rgb in your pc bc apparently right now it costs the same stuff as normal parts

it will look good

[limber bough]

yea im fine with that

[frigid edge]

aight

[frigid edge]

do you already have a monitor

thats good i mean

💀

alr ill include one in your list

[limber bough]

okay fs thanks

[frigid edge]

boom, its amazing what kind of pc you can build for the price of a 5090 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C6yMsp

64gb super fast ram, the best gaming cpu out right now, and amd's newest gpu