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its a single stick ๐
ohhhh
I got a 2TB ssd, and the PSU is 850 watt
tysm for this link, so upgrading too much rn isnt worth it due to the motherboard?
motherboard and power supply
do you know any specifics?
that's actually a good thing
if it's a 6000mhz stick you could potentially just get another 16gb stick
save yourself 40 bucks
its t force brand
do you know the latency?
you mean ddr4 or ddr5?
You can check by going to the memory oc section in your bios or downloading cpu z
tru...
I think this is what amd wanted
At least they're filling in the low mid range now
cl36
eh
not too bad tbh
it's not optimal but not that bad
at least it's not 5600 cl38
sounds bad ๐
what color is the dimm?
it could be better but it's also not the end of the world
It's just mediocre
if it was below 6000mhz then it would be crap
.
Sorry, which one is that?
your ram stick
Oh its red
yes
it's got lower latency too so
you spend more money but ๐คทโโ๏ธ
can probably get some moeny back from selling the stick
I was thinking the same
Ill just upg my ram for now. Then whenever I can build a new pc i can use the ssd and ram I have
you could potentially reuse the cpu
Really?
yeah
it's relatively bad... but it's not the worst thing in the world
OEMs hate selecting good parts
I say relatively bad
Yeah they always have the weirdest combinations
but that's only relative to other am5 cpus
it's still a decent enough chip
you can upgrade to a better motherboard and put an x3d in it
but if i upgraded my gpu would any bottleneck happen?
ahh
I wouldn't worry about bottleneck that much
it measures how much potential performance you're not getting
but if you have to spend $500 to get that extra bit of performance
is it really worth it
yeah honestly nah
it depends on the specific scenario tho
but the thing is you're at this awkward mid point
where you're not getting the worst performance
but upgrading is a pain because well
you're spending a lot of money but for not all that much performance gain
I'd keep the cpu for now
Got it
a gpu upgrade would be possible within the $500 budget
although the power supply would limit the options
850 is too little?
is it a 850w?
Ye
do you know the specifics of the psu?
Ye the company is high power which im assuming is basically no name
Prob unreliable?
prob a bomb
๐ญ well that wouldnt be good since i sleep close to it
would a pic be helpful?
belgh
thanks
Ye all the other sides are just black
Is that bad !!
er
one moment
here's the thing
I'm either looking at a bomb or actually a solid unit
I think it might actually be a good psu?
I had the pc for like 11 months now so Ig its somewhat reliable
well
that's not a good indicator
it haven't really been subjected to load
a bad psu always have the potential to blow up
Hmmm
Probably better I dont use it for a custom build then?
well here's the thing
if it's a good one
you can
that's what I'm trying to figure out
from what I can see here their 80+ gold units are genenrally good
from the limited information I can see
it's unusal that they'd bundle an actual good power supply
this might actually be a good unit wtf???
rare prebuilt W xd
it is
you have no idea how lucky you are
due to the uncertainty I wouldn't really push a 6950XT
Im not that familiar with AMD cards, just so ik what preforms similarly in nividia terms?
Yewah that makes sense
they're pretty overpriced these days
we're in a world where the 1080ti is as good as the 4060 ๐
eh
I'd argue that the 4060 is a pretty garbage card
at least relative to the 3060ti
Nah 4060 is faster
yeah ok lol
1080ti is like a 6600 xt
O dam
6600 is in between a 1080 and 1080 ti
i heard someone say no nvidida card is bad, just the prices
thats fair
for how much they usually go for on the market 8GB is outrageous
the 9060XT 8GB is under $300 which... is still stupid that a 60 tier card is 8GB
on the other hand it's under $300 and there's not that many options aside from refurbs
When the rx 480 from 2016 had 8 gigs
best way to put it ๐คฃ
buy arc and crash every week
I use arc btw

woaw
that was a reference btw
Are intel gpus actually good?
I don't actually use arc
oh LOL
it's a play on words
depends on what you use them for
I'd buy one just to use their encoder
but not for gaming
You can expect a few crashes but overall they seem to be pretty decent now
They have been improving really quickly
Its interesting to see
refurb 6700xt isn't that much of an upgrade
Not sure the best gpu upgrade, i guess 9060
i heard 9060 comparable to 5060ti
You can get a 9060 xt and ram for just about 500
Yeah the challenger is 370
Dude thats crazy
Pulse is 370-380 or smth
I wonder what's for refurb then
I should have gotten the open box xfx that thing looks so good
But all open box is dry now, people are keeping their cards
Both micro centers in my state have no open box 9060 xts anymore
๐
When the time comes im gonna try and sell my 4060
I think you will actually get some good money back from it
yeah
it's actually a really good time to sell
the low end market is desperate for gpus
Nvidia cut supply from their consumer cards
it's a crap year to buy gpus
which goes both ways
selling is good
use that to your advantage
Aaah
I think the msrp is like 350
Woaow
yup
AMD is really the goat rn
how does it compare to the 7700xt again
oh wait more vram
yeah that makes it better by default
Oh wait xtx means more cores lol
would it be worth upgrading to this card
Then you do the undervolt and gain even more
before accounting for the sale of ram and gpu
I think I gain like 8% over stock no kidding
The 3 fan is 380, it is on sale
ye its still 16 gb after all
150 is extremely generous
yeah
market is crap
exploit the hell out of it
WHATTT ๐ญ ๐ญ
250 for a used 4060 feels like robbery
it absolutely is
take advantage of it
let's say $230-250 for the 4060
$30 for the ram
Ive never actually sold a pc part before but, do I need the box or something for it?
you're looking at $260-280
Since it came in a prebuilt
that's half the upgrade paid for
you'll need to pack it well yes
ohh yeah you gonna need pack it
tons of bubble wrap
wrap it in newspaper and get packing peanuts or whatever they are properly called
what you could do is
you could use the box from the new gpu
and add more packaging material to fill up the space
and then put it inside another box
that's properly packed
ram is a lot more annoying so
tons of bubble wrap
correct
just learn how to deal with facebook marketplace npcs
they are certainly an interesting species
๐ ๐
I was just about to ask for the link omg
honestly that's a massive upgrade for $235
Oh yeah the big guy card for 380
I think you can gain like 10% over stock if you oc it to the max
Adrenalin will let you go to 200w
assuming that the psu is the good high power
woaoww
goated
I've been shitting on the market but this is one of those times where the crap market saves someone money
Should i buy a 1440p monitor atp
I mean
you can
the gpu's capable of 1440p ye
up to you really
you could also start looking at saving money for a better cpu
I think it would be worth as fsr 4 matures
although that'd be an x3d so that's a significant financial commitment
I'd just keep the cpu really
it's mediocre but upgrading it is not that cost effective
People ALWAYS love to hype up 2k, but I dont want it to be a situation where i spend bread on a 1440p monitor and it to not be that different from 1080 ๐ญ
well
Is that so?
that depends on the size of the monitor
what monitor you got rn
most id go is 27 in
im using a 165hz 1080p 24 inch
it's worse than the R7 7700 but at the same time it's still a decent enough cpu
27 inch 1440p still has more pixel density than 24 inch 1080p
that you'd have to spend a fat chunk of money to get better performance
so I'd just keep the cpu for a couple years really
yeah honestly
it's not bad just relatively bad
this
I have 25 inch 1440p
you want a monitor that's big enough that you'll see the difference from 1080p
anything bigger than 24 inch would be good
So I am kinda close to a larger monitor 4k density but still closer to 27 inch 1440p. Pretty close to being retina imo
27 inch is actually the max I'll go tbh
that's before you get into the 4k sweet spot
Hmmmm
The ones that monitor geeks splurge over are 24 inch 1440p monitors, but those are rare
I'd argue a 27 inch 1440p would look "better" than a 30 inch 1440p
Yeah 30 and over is 4k territory
24 is decent but like
I'd just go a bit higher
to get the most out of the purchase

25 inches at 1440p is noticable going from 1080 at 25?
definitely
Betttt
on the edge of 4k tbh
I wouldn't buy a 27 inch 4k monitor but it's almost big enough for 4k
I like how we went from ram upgrade to an ram + gpu + monitor
I could never get a 4k MONITOR ๐ญ
It all comes full circle fr, I have been needing to upgrade
yeah the prebuilt is mediocre but
the psu was a welcome surprise
assuming that it's the good unit
which cpu
Yeah
not that cost effective to upgrade honestly
ye upgrading that for now would prob be a waste
indeed
you can sit on that for a couple years
it's not just the cost of the cpu too it's the motherboard as well
Especially if you actually do go up to 1440p
I'm pretty sure you need a new board for an X3D
unless next gen AMD releases a R7 (non X3D) that's stupid powerful
still tho
$280 net cost for the upgrade
insane value
god bless nvidia tax + crap market
how much did the prebuilt cost I wonder
When i bought it, it was like 1.1k before tax
oh
def a horrid deal but ay
I mean
relative to 2025 prices
yeah it still is tbh
but after overhauling it...
1.4k I'd say
it's not that bad tbh
it's not great but it's signficantly better in terms of perf/$ comapred to the original
probably better than some custom builds out there
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7700X, Radeon RX 9060 XT, Phanteks Eclipse G370A ATX Mid Tower
If you were to build something like it today this is what it'd look like
oh wait
hold up
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Radeon RX 9060 XT, Phanteks Eclipse G370A ATX Mid Tower
lol I got an X3D in there
jeez a prebuilt at this price in 2025 would suck sooo bad
it absolutely would
although this is pretty unbalanced
you wouldn't pair an X3D with a 9060XT
the cpu is too good?
no
it's just that you'd probably get a weaker cpu and a better gpu
to get the more performance/$
ooohhh
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7700X, Radeon RX 9070 XT, Phanteks Eclipse G370A ATX Mid Tower
$1533
or if I minmax
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, Radeon RX 9070 XT, Phanteks Eclipse G370A ATX Mid Tower
$1434
so yeah this is just for fun
yeah but if you look at the over all price
It was supposed to be $100 cheaper though
it costs the same as your pc if you upgrade the ram and gpu
Wait ur right
yeah ofc
but still
1.4k is pretty good considering that it's a prebuilt
if you compare it to custom builds it's not very good but it'd destroy any prebuilt at 1.4k
fr
but its AI ready ๐
the irony is that it's not
16GB of vram is going to be a constraint for running any serious AI models
that goes for most consumer gpus tbh
ok damn the prebuilt market isn't as bad as I thought
last time i checked its just filled with 5060s
dang this is basically what i have
actually last year a 1.1k pc would probably have a 7700XT or a 7800XT
wtfff
er
idk if this website is trustworthy but dammm
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which ones are better?
crazyyy
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i had a feeling when the 5060 was their best user rated gpu
I usually look for reviews from gamers nexus or hwub
Got it, ubm tries so hard to defend theirself so i thought it was alr to use
do you know who candice is
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Whatwould you guys say is better, sapphire pulse or gigabyte gaming
Idk much bout gpu but everyone seems to hate gigabyte after some of the incidents theyโve had
thermal glue leakage incidents
it's harmless tho, but just stupid how it happened at all
either way sapphire pulse is the better one
alr
what fruit names end with um
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wrong itโs applum bananum strawberrum and coconut
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What is a taco
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Is it still a taco if I use naan?
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any recommendations for like a full setup at like 1.5k
What is the use case?
Gaming and schoolwork
What kind of schoolwork?
Schoolwork ๐
Get this man an OLED
Homework folder
And audiophile headphones
Peak "homework" experience
does anyone know monitors
I'm just gonna have a $200 placeholder
just like, regular
it's not for me but no it's just like, canvas lol
also my bad the budget is more like 1.2k ๐
Not flexible I assume
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, Radeon RX 9060 XT, Phanteks Eclipse G370A ATX Mid Tower
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, Radeon RX 9060 XT, Phanteks Eclipse G370A ATX Mid Tower
here's two lists
one fits the budget one doesn't
regarding the peripherals (monitor, keyboard, mice) they're just placeholders
I'd ask in #peripherals-and-displays for recommendations in that area
My bad I fell asleep after asking
The 57/800X3d arenโt worth?
only when your budget is high enough where you can fit in a good GPU before trying to fit in a x3d chip
Gotchu
Depends what other things are available to you. https://youtu.be/aYYVz4q-Rt8?si=sJ0NKoil92KjIZeh this testing makes paying north of 200$ for one of those chips kinda a hard sell IMO
Yo guys, I have a PC I was going to use for a Minecraft server, but I was wondering if it's also possible to run a photo server (immich) on it
And if it is possible without too much of a performance hit, would I need a gpu for encoding and facial recognition
Encoding can be done on cpu I think, facial recognition almost certainly need a gpu
first
@near nacelle What exact application do you use for music?
I would also still prioritize more storage first since I have 2tb+4tb and don't have that much to spare
And also https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D735BZR4 is very good for its price, its just white, would contrast the black case (i love it imo)
I use Ableton Live, previously used and have FLstudio
OOOO, maybe a black case, with white cooler and fan to make it stand out?
now you're talking
Cuz the fans I already have are white, no need for rgb stuff
and also do you want matching (black) or white ram
There's also Musescore 3 and 4, for composing work
But that's not a demanding app
Doesn't look like there are great benchmarks for fl studio or ableton, just going to assume 7600x and 9600x performs close enough as with most other cases
Can my current ram still be used in addition to new ones?
one advantage of 9600x is noticeably faster av1 encoding and rendering
would not be possible with upgraded platforms on ddr5
Alright then, all good
Ram can be white
is that your preference
it can be either, we gotta make sure you like it lol
personally I would not pay much attention to the color of your ram, it occupies very little of the total space and won't contribute anything unless you want rgb on it or it stands out from the background color
that would be the goal of white ram
Black is my preference, goes with everything, but white inside parts sounding really good to me
white ram on black mobo may look odd, and switching to a white mobo is going to increase the costs by quite a bit
Oh right yeah
Lets do black Ram
aight
That will blend in, the bigger parts can stand outโจ๏ธ
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DS2QG2KW?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DRRMZDH6?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
Now what do you think here, which one looks better
same price different brands
and the side yeah
Yep yep! One sec
I like the Gigabyte one, other one is sleek and cool but I like the former๐
alrighty
This is my rendition of a completed list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7fBCh7
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, Radeon RX 9070 XT, Montech XR ATX Mid Tower
Note: this is with the same model of storage upgrade as Mr1111's list but it is 2tb instead of 4tb
I'd still do something like this with 4tb still
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gcDYGJ
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, Radeon RX 9070 XT, Montech XR ATX Mid Tower
which saves a little money and gives you a better cpu
micro atx motherobard in an atx case?
Nothing really wrong with it when the color matches the background of the case
I did have a matx board in an atx case before lol
It's fine if you use the cable management gromets in the case
then what is the builder's preference @near nacelle
Give me just a moment to look and compare, I'm actually at work rn caregiving
Let me swap with someone
๐
By the way, you can use this to play around with how some of the parts would look with some of the options that have 3d models
https://buildcores.com/
Oh this website is dope, I've never seen this before!
There's no specific performance differences between the atx and micro atx, it's just a preference and potential to change to different cases?
yeah and usually more stuff can fit in/on an atx case
For modern systems, it's practically only cosmetic, it used to be useful for extra pcie x1 or x4 slots but very few things need extra x1 or x4 slots in modern systems
The second x16 slot on mATX boards is rarely ever needed, and is still available if you need it
I think my last question would just be between the cpu performances. The price between the two is around 30sum, and @stoic island does the 7600X and 4tb, vs slightly higher cpu and 2tb storage?
yeah i guess 7600x is fine
the only thing i disagree on is the motherboard but if thats preferred then i recommend it along with him
Oh and btw @near nacelle if money is more of a concern, in the end, you can always change the 9070xt for a 9060xt 16gb to save the couple hundred, and that'll also give some more room for cosmetic changes if you'd like
oh yeah that can be done too
9060xt is less performance of course but still should be a solid upgrade and work well with your monitor
this is with 9070xt https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VD9gWc
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, Radeon RX 9070 XT, Montech XR ATX Mid Tower
Actually at that point you can reuse the 3060ti
Lmao
i suggest not reusing it
Thank you both for the help and suggestions so far btw. Money shouldn't be hard to save a pinch more for the 9070xt
Just having trouble deciding and comparing while on break rn
My shift is done in just a bit and I'll have more time to compare, I've built a friends pc that had the micro atx once a couple years ago
Just imagining for things like ports for my capture card, and if it's better to do more storage and 7600x or 2tb with 9600x and upgrade it later
Of course
just think on it yeah and ill be available for questions
I don't think I've seen x4 in my life
Seems like the only thing they put on boards is x1 or x16
One option is to build it without the 9070xt, reusing the 3060ti and giving yourself more flexibility financially to swap around parts for what looks better to you, and save up later for whatever GPU you end up wanting
Anyways in the end all of the design decisions are going to be up to you, pick around what looks good to you since you're going to be the one looking at it anyways. We can help you make picks for price and performance, but everyone's idea of aesthetics is slightly different.
Manufacturers kinda resort to just adding an extra x16 slot that ends up just running at x4 lol
Like when they have 3 x16 slots but they end up running like x8-x4-x4 if you actually want to use all of them
Im so sad my x870e goes to pcie 8x on the gpu slot if I have more than 2 nvmes
eh
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, Radeon RX 9070 XT, SAMA SV01 ATX Mid Tower
aio matches the color, cheaper ram/board/case
990 evo plus
they wanted it white
why a white aio in a black build
and mr1111 insisted on the xg7000
fr
itll look weird
to you
better to just go full white atp
nah
or black/white mix
yes
white b650e 150$ rn
no
white inside black can look good if you dont add too much white
?
I think aio will be good
i have black everything except aio and gpu it looks fire
i respect the builders decision of white aio in black build
I have black inside white
one white part in a full black build will just be off putting but ok
a mix of black and white inside of white
What is the problem here
Aesthetics are subjective no?
Especially if they specifically asked for it
Oh ok
I wonder if x4 and x2 would still knock it down to x8
Not sure if anyone tested that
Prob depends on the board
Whether it uses the spare lanes for m.2 or not
AMD moment?
Yes
Pcie x12 isnt a thinf
Some boards though have some leftover lanes that could be used for m.2 but I guess either way it wont matter
does anyone here have experience with the paypal ui, specifically the web browser version
this says this
and yet
there no button
I think they mean like your PayPal balance "wallet" not the wallet tab with your cards
oh ok ill try
bro you helped me figure it out thank you so much
Iโm building a pc for a friends brother & he does like long movie editing. Like 1-2 hour long etc, the questions are does he need 256gb of ddr5 (heโs upgrading from ddr4) and what ram timings would he need?
Heโs got a z790 Elite Aorus AX and I see itโs only 192gb max, I donโt know if thatโs enough for something like that?

very helpful โ๏ธ
prob will only be able to do 4x48 max, only reasonably priced option would be like 5600c40, bad timings but it gets more expensive for something like 6000c32 that you might not even be able to run
Yeah it's looking really pricey, still figuring everything out for him and i'm learning on the way, his CPU (12700k) can't go over 128gb of memory apparently
But i'm guessing the usual or higher ram tunings is what would be best for video editing?
Then whether it's 2x64gb or 4x32gb
looks like that was changed retroactively
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-alder-lake-raptor-lake-cpus-gain-support-for-192gb-of-ddr5
24GB and 48GB memory modules coming to Intel-based desktops near you.
like the spec was written before 48gb sticks came to market so it was never updated
12900kf only officially supports 128gb but is running 192gb from MSI's screenshot
you're going to run into problems with trying to make that much ram stable than anything else
the usual guidance of 6000c30 is geared towards at max like 2x48
4x48 you're going to have to lower your expectations
No problem
PayPal is my passion
gotcha. so it's definitely possible to run 192gb of ram on a 12700k and 100% not stable
Expect 5200c whatever to work, hope 5600c whatever to work, rarely you might be able to get 6000c whatever to work
Probably will stick with a 2x64, but who knows if a 4x48 suddenly appears dirt cheap. Very odd question though, if you've heard about the nivida & amd dual card setup for gaming, where the nivida is primary stable card and the amd is the frame gen producing card. Do you think that'll work for video editing too or probably just power to waste?
lower your expectations to that so you won't get dissapointed
uhh mixed multi GPU setups are very rarely supported in any productivity software outside of blender
good to know, probably will have to find him a good ass GPU too considering he only has a 3070
You're generally going to be bound by your CPU for video editing anyways
mfw 6400c32
@plucky timber @stoic island https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fB7scf/patriot-viper-venom-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-pvv564g640c32k
I mean it'll save $100 but that's also at the cost of using all 4 lanes.
But the selection for the 2x64 sucks.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FgrZyW Aside from the power supply, 1060, and CPU cooler (I think it's the wrong model, but he has a msi liquid cooler) this is everything he has/is looking for atm
Part List - Intel Core i7-12700K, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB, GeForce RTX 3070, Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower
I have no clue what he has for storage, word for word he has "2.5tb of nvme, 2tb of hdd, 8tb of externals, 3tb of ssd"
hopefully it's enough power though?
Context?

I'd probably be aware of the performance penalties as an result of using all up four slots
If ram capacity is more critical than speed
Then it's not necessarily that bad of a tradeoff
basically friends brother into video editing, wants to upgrade his slow rig. Mainly just got a new board & looking for ddr5, but doesn't really have the budget for a new cpu unless it's used
I think ram capacity is probably what he wants best over speed
I mean, he's only running 32gb of ddr4 at something slower than 3200.
Depends on what exactly he's editing
The most I know is long ass movies, like 1-2 hour long videos
He originally wanted 256gb of ram
Then I told him how much thatโd cost & he kinda switched up
That's not that specific tbh
It also depends on the complexity of the edit
Does he actually need the ram tho
Is he running out
Donโt discount the 48GB option either but yeah 32 of solid DDR5 is prolly fine but Iโm just a gamer lol
@polar void Talked with some college friends, I think I'll go with your build proposal, thanks! Since I'm new to building with parts I own, Do I have to wipe or transfer my storage from my Hard-drive and ssd before using it in the new pc?
Glad to hear it, I can continue helping you here or in dms
No, the course of actions will be to build the new pc, install windows on the new fastest drive, and then install your others where you can copy your windows files from your old drive to replace the new drives' files and then wipe your old drive
Noted! Ill see if a college friend can help me start it, It'll take a bit for the parts to start shipping, but I'll DM you if needed probably late this wk or next wk๐
Bet its gonna be fire
Sooo I'm building a new pc for borderlands 4 and also so I can do Content Creation, I'm looking to get the parts over time for my build as my current pc might actually run bl4 but I wanted to make a new build so I can actually be able to play bl4 when I get a new 1440p monitor
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3VD6zP
I already have the ram and I'm gonna be going with bazzite Gnome for my OS, heres the list down below if you don't wanna click the link.
โข CPU - Ryzen 7 9700x
โข GPU - RX 9060 XT XFX Swift OC
โข MOTHERBOARD - Gigabyte X870 Gaming Wifi6 ATX
โข RAM - Corsair Vengance 16x2 DDR5 6000 (Bought!)
โข CASE - Montech King 65 PRO
โข STORAGE - SK Hynix Platinum p41 2tb m.2 & 1 - WD Gold 4tb HDD
โข CPU Cooler - Montech Hyperflow ARGB 360 Liquid CPU Cooler
โข CASE Fan - Ones included with the Case
โข PSW - MSI MAG A750GL
I got it for free, my room mate bought it for her pc but she didn't know her pc didn't support ddr5
so she gave it to me
eh
that's fine then
It's still pretty much the worst kit but if it didn't cost any money
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why is it bad?
the clocks are bad on it?
it's a corsair specific problem
they just don't make good ram kits
It's not as bad as ddr4 vengeance
Their timings are slower than other kits and they cost more
I don't believe the performance of the ram is gonna affect performance of my pc that bad, if thats the case i could buy a different kit
so ddr5 is just a really bad kit for the price rather than being a really bad kit
So not bad, just mid
if it was ddr4
I would've probably told you to swap it out
ddr5 is just extremely mid for the price
but I got it for free
I shall
do you need the AIO for aesthetic purposes?
if any instability happens I'll buy another kit to replace it, besides the ram any other thoughts on the other parts? I did my research on the parts
the case can fit it and yeah it's sorta aesthetic, also wanted to see if id get better cooling compared to my current pc
but my current pc is kinda donkey anyways
what's the price
everything in total?
the aio
90 on amazon
christ
Nothings really cheap, I could go for an air cooler
whats its cooling performance compared to the montech aio?
well if it's cheaper I'll consider it then
also would I need a usb drive for bios updates and stuff?
or if i bought the mobo and cpu I could just put it in and it works outta the box
I'll be going with Bazzite for my OS
I already have a drive thats ready to install it
Case also aesthetic?
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7700X, Radeon RX 9060 XT, Montech KING 65 PRO ATX Mid Tower
any reason why the 7700x?
oh ok
gonna check if there's a cheaper case
what is your current pc?
a hodgepodge
and what is the "hodgepodge"
โข CPU - Ryzen 5 5600x
โข GPU - RX 6600 XFX Speedster
โข MOTHERBOARD - Asus Prime B550 M-K
โข RAM - G-Skill Ripjaws V Series 8 x 2 DDR4 3200
โข CASE - Asus R.O.G STRIX GDK-10 Stock Case
โข STORAGE - 1x Crucial P3 PCIe gen 3 m.2 & 1x Toshiba 1TB Hard Drive
โข CPU Fan - Ryzen Wraith Stealth Cooler
โข CASE Fan - 1x120mm fan that came with the case
โข OS : Bazzite-Gnome
ok yeah that's not really worth upgrading
Yeahhhh
motherboard alone kills the upgrade path
which is why I'm going with a newer pc
you can keep the ssd
because I was a dummy
If you don't need the AIO for aesthetics reason you can go down to a RK120 for $29
I used to be on kubuntu and then a issue came up with my N3dsxl and I had to save it, I didn't make a dual boot so I had to uninstall and reinstall windows 11 and i ended up encrypting the HHD
HDD*
the cooler usually has paste pre applied
I was gonna use my trusty ol Kryonaut tube i have but after learning of it's degrading over time stuff I decided to switch
Mine was not but it did come with a tube of paste
or that
also
note that the gpu is a 3 fan model
rather than the original 2 fan
The thermalright paste is not bad either
literally the same price
motherboard is
well
you don't need an X870
The B650 Eagle AX can take an X3D
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7700X, Radeon RX 9060 XT, Montech KING 65 PRO ATX Mid Tower
updated list
oh, okay then
It's not as big of a deal as you might think it is
not even for gpu?
oh
The top m.2 is but the x16 slot is not
Uh
Yeah
My PC just died
oh sweet
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It still shocks me that there are practically no motherboards in that price range
I think b650 is supposed to have pcie 5 m.2
It's either the eagle ax or asrock
But the 5.0 x16 is not on b650, unless you roll back your gigabyte bios version
so we have two motherboards in the sub $170 range
I can't believe this
I can't even post because I'm not level high enough to post images lol
Was there a click or pop or soemthing
Oh well.. But yeah these new recommendations are great, thank you guys for the help ๐
I heard a click the first time it shutted off, I tried starting it up but it shutted off so I gave it some time and tried again and it ran for a little but but shut down just now
your odds go down with a b650
wait really?
but 800 boards go up
asrock's vrms are generally solid
but ya know
they blow up x3ds
that's the annoying part really
most boards at that price range are either asrock
yeah majority of failures are with 800 boards
or the B650-S
Well my power supply clicks every time it turns on or off
probably not tho
Psu prob died
I'd probably upgrade the B650-S to X3D tier tbh
or tripped
vrm config is quite similar to the eagle ax

is that a swamp cooler
a usb fan should NOT kill a computer
would be extremely funny if this thing somehow sent a crap load of current back into the usb port
Well my current PC is garbage anyways but it was leagues better then my dumpster laptop and my first gaming desktop
Old picture of it but it's literally the same as it is now, the case has no airflow so I have to have the side panel off
This was almost a year ago
My brother got scammed
It's like it's impossible for these people to design a good product
jesus christ poke a hole in front of the pc
1800 dollars from a rent to own
...
I upgraded it
It used to have a GTX 1650 super and a r5 3400g in it and only 8 Gbs of ram
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
It could be better I know
B450M-K you say
But believe me this is way better then my dumpster laptop
Mhm
I am sorry if my mistakes are triggering u
I wouldn't be surprised if that's what killed the pc
My new set up is gonna look way better anyways, I have it in sorta beta atm
I recently switched to bazzite gnome but these photos are of my set up currently and yes it's scuffed but I literally just moved across like 5 different states and didn't have money to get stuff so most my stuff is from Facebook market place or my roommates
it's functional no?
It works
I usually don't really judge aesthetics
As long as it works it's doesn't matter if it's a rat's nest
gran turismo spotted

I am a big gt fan
trust me
the anime figurines are a bigger assault on my eyes than anything else in the pic
it did come with the monitor i forgot to mention that
those are all my roommates
the plushy is mine ๐
for 6600xt and 5600x
no
?
it's $700 for a 6600xt
yeah that was my mistake
I remembered that it was a 6600 after i typed that
that is a nice desk btw
wait are the sides coming off nvm
slightly-less-nice desk
I am biased because I usually prefer functional setups
I live by the rule of "You stare at your screen not your computer case"
when we got it, the rain damaged it, we had 3 days of rain storms and the person on facebook market place left it out in the rain for those days
i got it for free
i got a lot of my stuff for free
chair, free from a school
Tv? not free, got it for 25 dollars, works great for the consoles : )

I have a list of my peripherals if you're interested
โข MONITOR - Samsung Odyssey G5 Series 27' 1440p 144 Hrtz
โข HEADSET - Corsair HS 80 MAX Wireless
โข SPEAKERS - Logitech Multimedia Speakers Z150
โข KEYBOARD - Evga z15
โข MOUSE - Logitech G502 Wired Gaming Mouse
โข MOUSE PAD - A old laptop case because I lost Mine when I moved lol
mate
free is free
that invalids all your arguments that the setup looks scuffed
free is free
in fact
It's an AMAZING setup for free
We here at newegg loves value
oh cool ๐



