#building-and-recc-chat

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dusty orbit
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Really? even with the 9900k?

gentle pollen
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Reasons:

  • Dead platform

  • Warranty likely is expired now or soon will be

  • Being sold used

  • Performs worse than modern budget chips

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Similar issue with the RAM and motherboard.

plucky timber
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i9 tax

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It's really just an i7 or hell

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Maybe a modern i5 can match it with ease

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Nevermind

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I was wrong

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A modern i5 would destroy the 9900k

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Besides the rest of the pc is uh

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Pretty crap

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The CPU, GPU and motherboard are the only decent things in there... If it was 500 CAD cheaper

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Even then it's debatable

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PSU seems sus

fallen sphinx
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no

fallen sphinx
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you can basically get a 9060xt + 7600x for that price

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absolutely not worth it

fickle bolt
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Please rethink your decisions

idle parcel
fickle bolt
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If you want low performance even for that low cost, then sure

fickle bolt
idle parcel
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What do u think is a good pc for a 400-500 budget

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I’m not expecting to perform crazy but I want it to perform good for a pc that costs that amount

fickle bolt
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Alr lemme cook sm up

idle parcel
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Are u building the pc yourself because i can’t build one

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When given parts

fickle bolt
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I can build but I dont have money

idle parcel
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When you said let me cook sm up I thought u were looking for individual parts to tell me to buy

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I was preferably looking for a prebuilt because i have 0 pc building knowledge

fickle bolt
fickle bolt
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I would ask someone who knows what they're doing then, I know zip abt prebuilts

crimson zinc
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What’s your budget @idle parcel

idle parcel
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Around 500 is probably the most id wanna spend

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Ik its not a lot that’s why i wanna try to get the most bang for my buck

crimson zinc
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CPU sucks but the gpu is good

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Immediately upgrade cpu when able

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It’s the only non-Dell thing in that price range with a gpu

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@idle parcel

idle parcel
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What cpu would u recommend

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@crimson zinc

crimson zinc
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I’d suggest a whole platform upgrade to LGA1700

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When you have the money

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Or am4, to a 5700x

idle parcel
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Also the computer is telling me that it can’t be delivered to my house

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Idk why

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“This item cannot be delivered to your current location”

crimson zinc
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Where are you located?

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Like country

idle parcel
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Usa

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California

crimson zinc
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https://www.jawa.gg/product/80423/gtx-1070-ti-ryzen-5-16gb-ram-win-11-wifi-gaming-pc

Jawa.gg
GTX 1070 TI, RYZEN 5, 16GB RAM, WIN 11, WIFI, Gaming PC | Jawa

CPU Brand: AMD, CPU Series: Ryzen 5, CPU Model: Ryzen 5 2600X, CPU Socket: AM4, CPU Cooler Type: Air, CPU Cooler Socket: AM4, GPU Chipset: Nvidia, GPU Brand: Zotac, Memory Capacity: 16GB, Memory Type: DDR4, Memory Number of Modules: 2, Internal Storage Capacity: 512GB, Internal Storage Form Factor: M.2, Motherboard Brand: AMD, Motherboard Socket...

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How about this

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https://www.jawa.gg/product/86467/gaming-pc-3060
thid would be much better

Jawa.gg
Gaming PC 3060 | Jawa

CPU Brand: Intel, CPU Series: Core i5, CPU Model: Core i5-9600K, GPU Chipset: Nvidia, GPU Series: GeForce RTX 3060, Memory Capacity: 16GB, Memory Type: DDR4, Motherboard Form Factor: ATX, Motherboard Brand: Intel, Motherboard Networking: Ethernet and WiFi, Case Color: Black

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Both have upgrade paths

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But second one has better stuff

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@idle parcel

idle parcel
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K thanks

barren grotto
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hey should my liquid cooler be touching the cpu?

stoic island
barren grotto
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okay i didn’t get a mounting kit i literally have missing screws so i just put whatever screw i had to fit it

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is the bad?

stoic island
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Uhh what AIO are you using?

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And what CPU?

barren grotto
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AMD Ryzen 7 8700F (4.1GHz) Processor
PRO B650-VC WiFi II Motherboard
32GB DDR5-5600 RAM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti Graphics Card and i got the asus lc ll 360 argb white edition

stoic island
barren grotto
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I have am4

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only

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am4 screws

stoic island
barren grotto
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gotcha

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well i just used the screws and turned it on idk the screen wont turn on but I can hear it running

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am i supposed to connect the wire into pump fan 1 input?

stoic island
barren grotto
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usb cable? it’s was like 5 pins on top bottom with one missin in bottom right so i put it in something called jusb

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and the other one i put it in cpu fa

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so i’m not sure

stoic island
barren grotto
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yeah so the micro usb i put it in the 9 pins and the 4 pin i put in in something called cpu_fan1

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the aio pump cable which pin name does that go in?

stoic island
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Different manufacturers can call it different names, all the 4 pin pwm headers have the same pin out, it'll just show up slightly differently in bios

barren grotto
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gotcha

stoic island
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Can be cpu_fan, can be cpu_pump, can be pump, etc

barren grotto
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yeah so i have pump fan and cpu fan and i tried both but i also have another 4 pins its called jrgb

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idk if it will work on that one

stoic island
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4 pin RGB is different, it should have a plastic bit in a different place that should stop you from plugging it in there

barren grotto
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wait that plastic thing is on pump fan and CPU fan but it’s not on the jrgb

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the jrgb is just 4 small cubes together with pins

stoic island
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It's there to stop you from plugging one into the other

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Either way it's not cross compatible

barren grotto
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yeah so do i put it in jrgb then

stoic island
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No

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That's for 12v RGB

barren grotto
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that’s what i was saying i can’t put it in the other ones

stoic island
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You can't reach it or

barren grotto
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cpu fan and pump fan

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nah it just stops halfway

stoic island
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..?

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Take a picture?

barren grotto
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wait no nvm it goes in

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i’m dumb

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lemme make sure now

snow dragon
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fr

barren grotto
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nah it didn’t work

stoic island
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What's not working

barren grotto
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so that 4 pin is in that bottom one

barren grotto
stoic island
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That's gonna have to do with the USB cable

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Change which port you're plugging the USB cable into and see what happens

barren grotto
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yeah i did used the 2nd one as well

stoic island
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Double check that it's fully plugged in on the pump side

barren grotto
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yeah it is imma get the software to see if it’s connected first

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i also hear my fans are more loud for some reason

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why would that happen

gentle pollen
barren grotto
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yeah my asus software dosent detect the liquid cooler

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im not sure why it’s not turning on

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omg it works

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holyyyyy

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thank you everyone for helping thanks guys

barren grotto
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it’s weird but the lights is on but as soon as i open the software the light turns off idk what’s up with that i just won’t use the software

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also i’m not 100% if it’s working but what’s a bad cpu usuage over time so i know it’s not working

edgy rampart
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Hey everyone,
I’m new here and I’m found yall on the Newegg app, I’m looking to build my own PC and just looking for help or tips and meet new ppl yall welcome to add me on discord I also started my content as well on tik tok I’m looking to start buying my parts hopefully Friday starting with my motherboard and case

crimson zinc
edgy rampart
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I don’t have nothing tbh lol I don’t have a list, but my home girl told me to start with my motherboard n case so I been looking on Newegg

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I look at YouTube on how to build a PC omg it’s a lot lol but I see it worth it tho

stoic island
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What are you looking to do with it and how much are you looking to spend?

edgy rampart
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I’m looking to play games and start my own server soon

stoic island
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Anything specific and what budget?

edgy rampart
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No tbh I just want something real good n good graphic

stoic island
# edgy rampart No tbh I just want something real good n good graphic

Price would be a pretty big consideration, if you don't know what you want, just for reference, a relatively standard 9070xt build with something like a 7700x without deals or bundles is ~$1500, knock it down to a 9060xt and cut some corners and it'd be ~$1000, upgrade to a 9800x3d and make some other minor upgrades and it'd be ~$1800

edgy rampart
# stoic island Price would be a pretty big consideration, if you don't know what you want, just...

Yes, I can build a PC. My labor cost will be $325. This includes assembly, installing software, updating, and security. This is on top of what parts you would purchase. If you need help choosing parts I can help you with that too. However, I am currently out of town. Probably for another month. If you can wait you will be saving money on labor. Please let me know.

That’s my computer guy that’s what he text me I had to copy it cause it won’t allow me to upload the pic anyways what you think or should I buy one that ready to go

stoic island
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and $250 is still a bit much for just labor imo, but up to you if you really don't want to build it

edgy rampart
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Okay, did you build your PC sorry for all the questions

snow dragon
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yos

stoic island
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Yes

edgy rampart
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Okay idk what to do I’m lost lol 😂

stoic island
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Start with what you want to do and how much you want to spend, figure out what parts you want, then decide if you want to build it or have a separate service do it

edgy rampart
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Thank you 😊 I appreciate it

edgy rampart
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Thank you so much I appreciate all of yall taking the time to respond and help me I do want to learn on my own I just didn’t know it was a lot of steps

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When I start I’m keep yall updated on my progress and journey

snow dragon
frigid carbon
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whats a good am5 matx motherboard right now for the 7900x. Im trying to downsize my pc but I cant find any deals for matx and Ive heard some bad things recently about Asrock

gentle pollen
frigid carbon
gentle pollen
frigid carbon
terse tendon
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I can’t do XMP?

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I clicked amp profile 1
And it still says 4800 mhz

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@sullen spoke

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I need help

obsidian wolf
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Ended up building today an XTX with a 7700 for my friend, this is so nice, throw on it the ICUE nautilus 360 with 3 extra Corsair fans all under 1600$

stiff crest
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Hey, my siblings PC's motherboard and cpu died apparently (thats what geeksquad said) so I put together a new one and was wondering if anyone had some input

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Would love to know if there are any issues with that I chose or if the motherboard is secretly bad (motherboard was really hard to decide on)

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they will upgrade gpu in the future and really wanted cpu cooler with display

languid nimbus
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Wait are they buying a 1070 that’s almost $500 or do they already have it

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Cos don’t do that

stiff crest
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i didnt get a new PSU, Case, Storage, or GPU

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So I'm more so asking how the mobo/ram/cpu combo is

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(she really wants all white look)

sullen spoke
stoic island
stoic island
# stiff crest they will upgrade gpu in the future and really wanted cpu cooler with display

And thermalright have better priced aios, including white aios with screens like this one. If they don't like the particular design on this one, there are still many more other thermalright aios that can still fit your criteria.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y3vD4D/thermalright-frozen-warframe-argb-7084-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-warframe-360-white-argb

Thermalright Frozen Warframe ARGB 70.84 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Froz...

Thermalright Frozen Warframe ARGB 70.84 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Frozen Warframe 360 WHITE ARGB)

weary galleon
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Can't believe we almost left behind aios entirely and became a dual tower masterrace but now people want a display on their cooler

gentle pollen
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$200 Good White Board. Two NVMe slots and good VRMs 12+2+2.

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The NVMe are 5.0 and 4.0.

marble dune
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Is it worth upgrading from a r9 5900x to a 5800X3D or 5700x3d

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for 1440p

snow dragon
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with that card yeah

marble dune
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would it be better to go to am5

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as in without spending too much could I get a mobo cpu ram combo that includes a cpu better than or as good as the 5700x3d

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im rly just not familiar with the am5 and lga 1700 sockets

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I built a pc for my friend and found out the 1700 cpus use more power than most gpus

snow dragon
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I think you would save more money by sticking to am4 for longer

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I see some 5900x on ebay going for 185 or so

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5700x3d is 245 cheapest

crimson zinc
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Am5 would be a good jump, even going to a 7700x.
Grab one cheap on sale, find some solid 6400mhz ram, and a good motherboard.

snow dragon
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If only he was here a week ago

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9800x3d was 400 at micro center

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I don’t remember the 9700x price but the 9600x was 150

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He can sell the 5900x be down like $80 after ebay fee

fickle bolt
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Ok chat, need a a few recommendations.

As a few of you know im building a pc for my dad, as his current laptop isn't doing so hot and he needs a new one in general.

Alpha has given me reco's for a CPU, mobo, and ram(r5 7600x, MSI X670E GAMING WiFi, and a klevv 2x32 kit), but i need recommendations for all other parts, with a few requirements.
(If possible, rgb can be omitted. he doesn't really care what it looks like, if it works)

GPU: need it to be work capable. He won't be doing any 3d modeling, but he will be doing lots of illustrator/photoshop.

Storage: idrc, high quality 1TB+ NVMe

Cooler: AIO preferable.

Case: legit anything, even one with no side panel.

Psu: one that won't blow up

covert vapor
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If you are doing an aio just do one of the cheap Thermalright aios.

fallen sphinx
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and the purpose

fickle bolt
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Purpose is work(photoshop, illustrator, infinite numbers of chrome tabs), idk what the budget is, I'll ask

fallen sphinx
fickle bolt
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Huh

fallen sphinx
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after effects?

fickle bolt
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Idk, maybe

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He has the Adobe suite so

fallen sphinx
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youd want intel/nvidia then

fickle bolt
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Hm

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Wait no he doesn't use ae

fallen sphinx
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what does he use

fickle bolt
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Just ai/ps

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And acrobat

fallen sphinx
fickle bolt
fallen sphinx
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alg

fickle bolt
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Also a program called Gerber omega

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Sort of like illustrator

fallen sphinx
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hmmm ok

fallen sphinx
fickle bolt
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Like itx?

fallen sphinx
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no no

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mini matx

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itx is not a good idea

fickle bolt
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Lol I dont thik he really would care but smaller might be helpful

fallen sphinx
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ok

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unless one of the programs utilize cuda

fickle bolt
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Also he said budget is "a couple thousand dollars"

fallen sphinx
fickle bolt
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It better

fallen sphinx
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nothing he said afaik uses cuda

fickle bolt
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Imma say up to 2200

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Can it run 3 displays nicely(prob shoulda mentioned earlier)

fallen sphinx
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yeah im ngl he doesnt seem to do much

fickle bolt
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A mini pc would free up a lot of space

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Bet

lyric thistle
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not enough dispay por...

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do it have the VESA mounting

languid nimbus
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Do wish it were a x3d but

rare plover
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Are gigabyte gpus bad? I keep seeing mixed opinions about them

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Specifically the rx 7600xt 16gb

obsidian wigeon
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they're generally decent

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also please don't buy a 7600xt, it's just a 7600 with 2x vram

rare plover
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Whats bad about that

obsidian wigeon
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you pay more for no meaningful performance gains

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it's identical

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you can get like a 9060xt for similar amount of money

rare plover
obsidian wigeon
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8gb or 16gb, pick your poison

rare plover
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Like 100 more

obsidian wigeon
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ah, i see

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i'd just suggest you to go for the normal 7600

rare plover
obsidian wigeon
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hmm

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alright

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just avoid the 7600xt since you'll be paying more for no performance difference

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that 16gb vram wouldn't get used correctly since the gpu itself isn't fast enough to handle ultra graphics on the newest games

snow dragon
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What about a second hand 6700 xt

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Its also a little faster

rare plover
rare plover
obsidian wigeon
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ya

rare plover
# obsidian wigeon ya

so 8gb is enough for 1440p because the preformance isnt enough for games that need more than 8 gb

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but on better cards like the 9060 it isnt enough

obsidian wigeon
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precisely

rare plover
# obsidian wigeon precisely

between the 8gb models of the 7600, what would you say is the better option, sapphire pulse, asus dual or gigabyte

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Sapphire right?

obsidian wigeon
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pulse is the best out of the bunch

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easily

rare plover
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wait no

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Dual evo and v2

obsidian wigeon
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pulse remains the best regardless

rare plover
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Thanks anyways

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Also would 1080p on a 23 inch screen be as clear as 1440p on a 27 inch or something

obsidian wigeon
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mhm, it would

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similar ppi numbers

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should net you similar clarity

rare plover
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Nice

rare plover
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Or r5 7600

obsidian wigeon
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very nice cpus

rare plover
obsidian wigeon
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ya

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those cpus are pretty fast

rare plover
obsidian wigeon
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yes, though you can find thermalright coolers that perform similarly to noctuas

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like peerless assassin- anything from thermalright really, they're all good

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the brand releases a new product every few weeks or smth, too often for me to track lmao

rare plover
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are case fans from them also good?

obsidian wigeon
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and also warranty

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noctua has unmatched service, but frankly- it doesn't really matter

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fans don't die in a year or something

rare plover
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What about those antec 5 packs

obsidian wigeon
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thermalright produces said noctuas

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so thermalright can indeed match noctua if they want

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and they have shown that

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thermalright's motto is to make good products affordable to everyone

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so yeah, they'll keep spamming once they get an idea

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forget naming legacy, it's a cannon of products lmao

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all good products

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i like how the older and inferior pa120 se is more expensive

rare plover
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These will fit in a lianli a3 right?

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also whats the difference between the peerles assassin and the royal knight, heatsink size?

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so cools slightly worse?

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oh nice

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but if i remember correctly the PE is enough for g.skill ram right

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Flare x

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Ig i could get most of the parts locally and buy the ram, fans and cooler on amazon

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The a3 can hold 10 fans or 7 with a glass side panel so i assume i also need a fan hub since m atx motherboards dont have alot of fan connections

rare plover
weary galleon
rare plover
obsidian wigeon
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these are all 8gb cards

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would be best fitting for 1080p

rare plover
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I’ve heard mixed opinions

obsidian wigeon
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trash drivers

fallen sphinx
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the single best option

fallen sphinx
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literally the best value out there

rare plover
fallen sphinx
rare plover
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Both being pulse

weary galleon
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I personally wouldn't buy/reccomend an 8gb card for a new 1440p build

fallen sphinx
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also 9060xt = 7700xt so

rare plover
fallen sphinx
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actually true

rare plover
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Fr?

fallen sphinx
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9060xt>7700xt

rare plover
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Except in rt?

fallen sphinx
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better rt and upscaling

rare plover
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Oh 7700 i didn’t read

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Yea ik

fallen sphinx
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id take an 8gb 9060xt over a 7600xt anyday

rare plover
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16gb 9060 is like the same price as the 7700

fallen sphinx
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what country

rare plover
snow dragon
rare plover
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For the 7600 In a black rgb less build would the pulse look good tho

icy thunder
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Hello everyone. My friend asked me for PC build for his friend that lives in Canada. They have a budget of 1k CAD which isnt much so wasnt sure exactly what to build them. Any help would be appreciated. I tried but didnt try hard enough and ended up with something over budget. Here's this if you want to take a look at it. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WXHhpK

Country: Canada
Budget: $1000 CAD
Use: Gaming
Resolution: 1080p
Aesthetic: Just want it to work. Only specification is a SAMA NEVIEW 4503 ATX Mid Tower Case for some reason.
Condition: New

Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, GeForce RTX 5050, SAMA NEVIEW 4503 A...

Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, GeForce RTX 5050, SAMA NEVIEW 4503 ATX Mid Tower

icy thunder
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i didnt know how else to get the price down lol

snow dragon
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You can get better boards for slightly cheaper

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A620 for 155 is silly

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Thats b series pricing

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You can get a cheaper case too

icy thunder
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yeah it was one recommended to me a while back for another cheap build so i went with it for this one as well

icy thunder
snow dragon
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Oh tru missed that

icy thunder
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i have no idea why they picked that case

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im guessing they just want one like that

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if you can rework the entire list that would be great. That was just a list i had someone in here make for someone else in the past but edited it to make it slightly cheaper by changing the cpu and gpu and the case since thye picked that

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oh wait im sorry i forgot a very important specification. Im going to check with them to see how set in stone it is

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they said nvidia but imma see if i can make it more flexible

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thats what im trying to find out

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thats what i was thinking because of their limited price too

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not like they are too far behind nvidia nowadays

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my friend has his discord on DND because hes an idiot

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i get why most people have DND but hes not getting pinged or anything he doesnt need it

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especially after he asked me a question like come on

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they are asking their canadian friend about the case and gpu

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right

bitter mason
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@rugged grail are you actually putting it together rn or trying to decide on parts?

rugged grail
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right now

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can you join the voice

bitter mason
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sorry I will join in like 5 minutes. My bad it's noisy here rn and the baby is making noises

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sorry wifey should be out of the shower then I'll definitely help

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my bad

rugged grail
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okay no problem

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i will wait

bitter mason
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in the meantime, keep sending messages until your name turns green

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that way if you need to send pictures or anything youc an

rugged grail
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so I have attached the processor, cpu tower cooler, ram and ssd

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now I am confused about the powersupply cables

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should I send the image of my mother board

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How many text do I need to send

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XD

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😦

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big sad

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its almost feel like spamming

icy thunder
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rough

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yeah

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also cad sucks

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everytime i look at pc stuff for canadian friends im baffled at the price difference

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there was a laptop a friend was looking at and when i converted the money it cost like 200 usd more than it did here

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yeah

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real

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its rough out here

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i cant even imagine

bitter mason
rugged grail
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Hello

bitter mason
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oh you're in there

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one second

icy thunder
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i let them know the verdict

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thanks for the help

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much appreciated

rare plover
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@obsidian wigeon what about the 3060 12gb, would it work for 1080 or 1440p?

obsidian wigeon
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3060 is slower than the 7600

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it's not a 1440p card

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so yeah, the extra vram would be meaningless

rare plover
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Ah

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Would it still be alright for games like fh5 and wt tho?

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My library isnt that big, mainly warthunder and Roblox, planning to buy forza 5, teardown and ppg

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Would the 7600 be enough for those at 1440p?

crimson zinc
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What’s your budget for a gpu?

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@rare plover

rare plover
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Around 1600-1800 local currency

crimson zinc
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What’s that in USD?

rare plover
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470~

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But high tax so

crimson zinc
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So that’s just for the gpu?

rare plover
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Yes

crimson zinc
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Check how much a 9070xt or 9060xt 16GB would be for you locally.

rare plover
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16gb 7600 is around 1650, 8gb 9060 similar price

rare plover
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Can try getting a 2 fan reaper or pulse 9060 16gb

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or hellhound in the tax free zone

crimson zinc
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That’d probably be your best choice, as the extra vram and fsr4 would help a bit.

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I got my ASROCK challenger from Newegg for about $360 USD, if that matters.

rare plover
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I dont want a reaper that thing gets to like 100 c doesnt it

crimson zinc
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Unsure. That’d be something to look into.

rare plover
rare plover
crimson zinc
rare plover
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Idk if its a good seller tho

crimson zinc
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Never heard of them, but that’s probably cuz I’m not that familiar with that area.

rare plover
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Middle east soo

rare plover
rare plover
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Nvm its closer to the hellhound now, no competition there

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Are the 8gb variants still good for games that dont require much vram

rare plover
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I plan to play mostly teardown, people playground , forza horizon 5, war thunder, Minecraft, cs2 and Roblox, most of these games aside from teardown need like less than 6 gb of vram

stoic island
#

teardown textures are relatively small since it's more of a low poly game

rare plover
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I was told its pretty intense cus all the voxels and smoke/destruction/explosion physics and stuff

cyan hedge
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We did a fresh build and having trouble getting the old windows 11 key from the sata SSD. Booting from this sata won’t allow us in because it says we need to change the pin, but it’s in airplane mode and can’t connect

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Should we just find a new windows key somewhere? Or what’s the answer? I tried installing the LAN drivers for the new mobo onto the sata ssd using the file directory while booting from the m.2 new ssd

stoic island
# rare plover ?

It's intensive on the GPU, but it shouldn't take that much vram since the textures themselves are relatively small

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afaik it's calculation heavy not memory heavy

stoic island
cyan hedge
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If it was default, yes

stoic island
#

if that was the case, there's not much you can do with it

cyan hedge
#

Wouldn’t have messed with that setting

cyan hedge
stoic island
#

it's not default default but it's a part of the windows setup that windows encourages you to enable iirc

cyan hedge
#

So we’ll just need a new windows key?

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If so that’s not the biggest issue. Just wanna make sure this doesn’t mean we’ve messed anything else up

rare plover
#

all being 8gb

stoic island
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none for 1440p lol

stoic island
rare plover
stoic island
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9060xt 16gb or 5060ti 16gb

rare plover
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Will they work for 1080p

cyan hedge
rare plover
stoic island
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I'm playing war thunder on 1440p high rn and I have ~10gb of vram allocated

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8gb is fine for 1080p and only really 1080p with newer games

rare plover
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Ok

stoic island
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older games 1440p with 8gb is doable

rare plover
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Or does that not affect the vram usage very much

cyan hedge
stoic island
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It's possible but I would not recommend it

stoic island
rare plover
rare plover
stoic island
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I have the HQ texture pack downloaded, don't think I'm using it though

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Actually launcher defaults to default client, might not have the texture pack installed actually

rare plover
#

Ah

stoic island
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Hard to tell when I usually launch through steam

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Sorry, other way around, Steam says I just have the 60gb standard client, launcher says full HQ lol

image.png
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I opened the dev server launcher by accident earlier lol

marsh fossil
plucky timber
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It would be if it wasn't $999

marsh fossil
plucky timber
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Very

marsh fossil
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Okay. I am wondering Is it the case for most pc?

plucky timber
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What???

marsh fossil
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Sorry, english is not my first language

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I mean to say is most prebuilt pc overprice on newegg?

snow dragon
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Considering that the computer is not hideous and cheaper 5060 pcs make some large compromise

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I think it is not bad relative to the others

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It actually looks pretty nice too

plucky timber
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I think it shouldn't even have a 5060

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It's outrageous for $999

marsh fossil
snow dragon
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Yes

snow dragon
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relative

marsh fossil
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Sorry?

snow dragon
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No I didnt mean anything bad

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Just trying to say the market is screwed rn

marsh fossil
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Oh ok. Any idea where to look?

marsh fossil
plucky timber
snow dragon
plucky timber
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It's still a ripoff even if it's relatively good

snow dragon
#

This is the 8 gig card though

plucky timber
#

I mean

snow dragon
#

At least its under 900

plucky timber
#

Doesn't it outperform the 5060 at lwast

snow dragon
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Yeah

plucky timber
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5060 is pathetically weak iirc

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In addition to being 8gb

snow dragon
plucky timber
#

This pc is ddr4 but at least it's got a way better gpu

plucky timber
snow dragon
#

Yeah

plucky timber
#

7700 is wayyyy better than 5700

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And 16GB vram

snow dragon
#

Better than the i5 too

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Plus am5 platform

plucky timber
#

I hate the fact the solution to this shitty market is always "spend more money"

snow dragon
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Lmao spend a little over your budget to get better value

plucky timber
#

Seems like everything under $1000 is crap value nowadays

snow dragon
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Rather than try to get the best value at this specific budget

plucky timber
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Even with used GPUs

snow dragon
#

The si theory is actually true, its all 8 gig cards

marsh fossil
snow dragon
plucky timber
snow dragon
plucky timber
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You spend $100 more but you get way more performance/$

marsh fossil
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For only $200 USD more. Is very nice

plucky timber
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Is it $200

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$1099-999 is $100 no?

snow dragon
#

Nah its 1100

marsh fossil
#

Sorry, you are correct

snow dragon
#

Just 100 more

plucky timber
#

Yeah

marsh fossil
#

For 100 more is worth the upgrade?

plucky timber
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Don't view it as an upgrade

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View the $999 as a sub par product

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And the $1099 as what you'd be aiming for

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Because that piece of crap for $999 is outrageous

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You're getting way more performance for $1099 compared to the $999 pc

snow dragon
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It has double the video memory and a more powerful processor. Also, the motherboard can take newer cpus

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The $999 pc has the 14400f, which is the newest it can go

plucky timber
#

What board does it have

marsh fossil
plucky timber
#

I wonder if it can go up to an X3D

plucky timber
#

Always has been that way

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Ok nvm that looks like a bottom barrel board

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Don't trust the vrms

snow dragon
#

This 1100 pc is on an AM5 motherboard, which can take newer cpus

plucky timber
#

It can take a non X3D I'd say

snow dragon
#

Just dont put anything too powerful

marsh fossil
#

Yes, I am being careful about the motherboard, as I want to have the chance to upgrade later in time

snow dragon
plucky timber
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I mean

snow dragon
#

but am5 will last till at least the next generation

marsh fossil
plucky timber
#

To be fair the $1099 pc is limited too... But that's prebuilts in general

snow dragon
plucky timber
snow dragon
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I am on 1440p with a 9060 xt

plucky timber
#

Generally yes

marsh fossil
plucky timber
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Motherboard vrms

snow dragon
plucky timber
#

Prebuilts usually go with the cheapest board that can take the cpu

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It only impacts upgradability

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Not that important for most prebuilt consumers

snow dragon
# marsh fossil Can you please explain?

He is saying the motherboard doesnt have good power delivery because they use the bare minimum to get by, so he is just saying to not get anything too crazy if you do upgrade

plucky timber
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Just means that if you want to upgrade you'll have to get a new motherboard

marsh fossil
#

I understand, these is surprising

plucky timber
#

At least upgrade to a more power demanding cpu

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It's really not that bad

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Even in custom build terms

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We're really at a point where this mediocre pc is decent value compared to custom builts

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2025 moment

marsh fossil
#

Depending on the parts, what must be upgraded first?

plucky timber
#

Motherboard

marsh fossil
#

How troublesome

plucky timber
#

I mean

#

You don't have to upgrade for a while

marsh fossil
#

Yes, that is my goal

plucky timber
#

The upgrade is going to be several years down the line

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And depending on what AMD put out

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You might be able to get a non X3D that might be fine with the board

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Alternative you could upgrade the platform entirely

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Might as well since the motherboard has to go anyways

#

Depending on how long AM5 lasts

marsh fossil
plucky timber
#

Well

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AM4, AM5, LGA1700 is a platform

snow dragon
plucky timber
#

Generally the cpus on an AM5 should work on the motherboard released that generation, and the boards would be backwards compatibility

snow dragon
#

9800 x3d uses more but its not bad given how many phases the board has, even if the heatsink on there is basically useless

plucky timber
#

Forwards compatibility is another can of worms

plucky timber
#

They're just ok with mediocre vrms

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Not ideal but it's not bad per say

snow dragon
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I think as long as he doesnt get anything too crazy in the future he should get by

marsh fossil
plucky timber
#

Putting an X3D in them would be really pushing it

snow dragon
plucky timber
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Especially considering how much they cost

snow dragon
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am4 socket, am5 socket, etc

plucky timber
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I'd push non X3D at the very most

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And that would still depend on the vrms

marsh fossil
plucky timber
#

Sustainable?

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With these AAA devs?

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Nah

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The real unsustainable part is how these game studios make games

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If they actually bothered to optimize the code it wouldn't be as bad

marsh fossil
#

It is sad, but i heard an 16GB GPU will help me more than 5060.

plucky timber
#

As long as you get the best performance/$ rather than "the best"

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You're generally good

#

With this pc market getting "the best" pc is...

#

Well quite frankly

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Idiotic

marsh fossil
#

😂😂😂

plucky timber
#

The price scales exponentially to performance gains

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You get less and less performance for every dollar spent after a certain point

snow dragon
lyric thistle
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There should be a law against video games using more than 8gb vram stonks1

marsh fossil
#

Wow, the way you say it makes sense to me now

plucky timber
#

Yeah it sucks

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2025 pc market moment

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It's partly due to gpu price gouging

marsh fossil
#

Well right now my laptop has GPU with 4 gb vram 😢

plucky timber
#

Partly game studios

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Partly everything else really

snow dragon
lyric thistle
#

That's fine for a laptop tbh

plucky timber
#

I mean

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I have 8GB vram on my laptop

lyric thistle
#

Just make it small picture :3

plucky timber
#

I specifically spent money to get 8GB

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Over the 3060

marsh fossil
#

Yes, at first it was ok for me. Now it is very laggy, I also only have 8 GB ram.

plucky timber
#

Great deal in hindsight

lyric thistle
#

I have 5700u vega

plucky timber
#

Let me guess

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1060?

#

1050?

marsh fossil
#

It has 3050ti

plucky timber
plucky timber
#

That is criminal

marsh fossil
#

🤣🤣🤣

plucky timber
#

8gb ram on a modern laptop?

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Ram*

marsh fossil
#

Well, I bought it in about 2022

plucky timber
#

I bought my laptop in 2021 so

lyric thistle
#

Why do laptops have igpu with dgpu peepoSadSip

plucky timber
#

Linux hates it

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Wayland also doesn't play nice

marsh fossil
plucky timber
#

Depends on game

lyric thistle
plucky timber
#

I play TF2 so I could technically run 300hz on my 3070m

marsh fossil
lyric thistle
#

It's nice to have 32gb ram on the go :3

snow dragon
plucky timber
#

I know you can run TF2 at 280fps on a 9060xt at least

#

Lmao

snow dragon
#

I get 200 fps easy 1440p

marsh fossil
#

The game i play most is osu!

plucky timber
#

Yeah that'd be easy to run

snow dragon
#

I get 180 fps in minecraft with shaders and that is with a bunch of trees around me

plucky timber
#

The refresh rate would be really handy

plucky timber
marsh fossil
plucky timber
#

Usually my cpu screws me harder than the graphics

snow dragon
plucky timber
#

I breed a lot

snow dragon
plucky timber
#

So the entities near me kills my cpu

marsh fossil
plucky timber
#

Single threaded moment

plucky timber
#

At least when it come to games, which are typically single threaded

snow dragon
#

So you would have nearly the same pc as me

plucky timber
#

I wouldn't say slightly faster

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I'd say better binned

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Because technically you can oc a 7700 to match 7700x stock

lyric thistle
#

I play on a server with gazillions of signs in the nether hub that makes peoples' computers, consoles, phones, etc. chug to single digits lol

snow dragon
#

Its like 2% faster

marsh fossil
snow dragon
#

not a big deal at all

plucky timber
#

I run my server on a haswell

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Tbh that might be the bottleneck now that I think about it

snow dragon
marsh fossil
#

Oh, I assume you buyed it online

plucky timber
#

My last desktop's value went down the drain when I started adding noctua fans

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I kept the noctuas when I sold it because

snow dragon
plucky timber
#

The fans are worth a lot more with me having them

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Than on the used market

snow dragon
#

I made the switch to itx (small pc) and then moved to am5 and then got the 9060 xt

lyric thistle
#

Noctua fans pricy

plucky timber
#

Instead of upgrading my main rig I just buy homelab stuff now

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The main pc budget is getting siphoned by my lab

snow dragon
#

Upgrading to am5 was almost $500 and the 9060 xt I got was a return from somebody, so it was discounted at $332

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I will make most of this back once I sell my old pc

plucky timber
#

Wtf

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You can type by dragging your fat thumb across the keyboard

snow dragon
#

I upgraded so much that I have enough parts to build an entire pc

snow dragon
plucky timber
#

Lemme try something

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Schlachtschiff scharnhorst

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Oh my god it works

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Hold up

lyric thistle
#

I can't type John Madden with it

plucky timber
#

I can't type sudo

lyric thistle
#

Johnathan Johnathan

plucky timber
#

Ok it hates linux commands

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Guess i still need a keyboard

#

Doesn't capitalise is either

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She sells seashells on the seashore

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Hmm it's usable

lyric thistle
#

Homemade

#

Johnny

plucky timber
#

Just a bit annoying compared to actually speed typing and using autocorrect

lyric thistle
#

Johnn

#

No John Madden...

plucky timber
#

Mecklenburg-Vorpommern

lyric thistle
plucky timber
#

It got that right

marsh fossil
lyric thistle
#

Oh I guess it won't type John Madden unless you do it in steps

plucky timber
#

Best-Logistik

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I was trying to type "Brest-Litovsk"

lyric thistle
#

Librettos

plucky timber
#

Looks like it operates off a dictionary

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Liechtenstein

lyric thistle
#

I was trying to type Linus tech tips

plucky timber
#

What's license? Little balls

#

Yeah it's not that accurate

#

It doesn't know what ligma is

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Breslau, Schlesien

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What if I type in a word not in any of my keyboards

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L' plugin

#

Nope

snow dragon
plucky timber
#

L' plugin

sullen spoke
#

enjoy the osu sessions 😉

plucky timber
#

can't type l'oignon

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Francophobic keyboard

snow dragon
#

Lol if I bought everything in my system at once it would be 1400

plucky timber
#

It's fine with german and english

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Probably because i have those two installed

snow dragon
#

I am not buying a fan over $15 from now on

sullen spoke
#

i kinda want to get noctua fans

snow dragon
#

They are afraid of white fans so I wont be getting them

plucky timber
#

I hate white in pcs

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Artificial tax

snow dragon
#

Not always but it is very real

#

My white ram was as much as black and same goes with the case

sullen spoke
#

yeah im just fine with jet black

marsh fossil
plucky timber
#

It's mostly in motherboards

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And gpus

snow dragon
#

Fortunately asrock doesnt tax white much at all

plucky timber
#

Yeah but like

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It's asrock

sullen spoke
#

or maybe noctua beige

snow dragon
#

Their steel legend cards are actually nice surprisingly

plucky timber
#

This isn't the based asrock that didn't blow up X3Ds

#

Oh gpus

sullen spoke
plucky timber
#

Nvm

#

Yeah gpus are fine

snow dragon
#

Their white boards also have a good price but their bios issue is really pissing me off

plucky timber
#

It sucks that I have to default to the B650-S and the B650 Eagle AX

#

And the B650-S is out of stock

#

Everything else is either crap, overpriced, or asrock

#

There are two entire motherboards worth buying

#

At least of you want perf/$

valid hollow
#

Lately it’s been only the white NZXT cases on sale lol

arctic kernel
#

Hi! I've just bought a prebuilt PC (ABS Eurus Ruby Gaming PC - Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - Radeon RX 9070 XT - 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD - AR7800X3D9070XT) from newegg (not very confident in building anything myself) and have been having this strange issue where I open Honkai Star Rail and it will freeze and crash every time I alt-tab out of it..it then caused my task manager to also freeze and crash. If I try to force quit the program, my pc still thinks that the game is running despite there being no active window visible. Does anyone have experience with this specific game and have advice? I've tried clean uninstalling and redownloading, and have tried running some command prompts to clean any corrupted files, and reinstalled windows as well. The only temporary fix has been completely restarting my pc...

arctic kernel
#

upon further inspection it looks like the game does not crash when i use the AMD Radeon(TM) Graphics instead of the RX 9070 XT.... guess it's a gpu issue if that helps narrow things down..?

plucky timber
#

Have you tried installing drivers

fallen sphinx
arctic kernel
#

I have, I guess I'll try reinstalling and using an older version of the software?

crimson zinc
#

That’s your best bet

rare plover
#

How are the drivers for the B580 currently?

#

I see one video glazing it and then the other says they had major problems like bruh 😭

valid hollow
rare plover
#

are we robbing a semi truck going to micro center or something

white depot
#

guys

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I was installing windows 11 and it says cant install windows into this drive due to bitlocker encryption

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but now I cant even boot into windows

#

is my PC bricked

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IT DOESNR WORK BRO

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nvm I did it

weary galleon
rare plover
weary galleon
#

There have been ones at $250 iirc

rare plover
#

Found a guy selling an asus dual 7800 for 1850 NIS which is the price the same variant of the 9060 8gb is, he says it’s been only used for gaming and got replaced with a 5070, what do you guys think

valid hollow
rare plover
#

Msrp is still 300 usd tho jensen2

valid hollow
plucky timber
#

$250?

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Eh that's not bad

#

The 8GB is a terrible card at msrp

#

But at a lower price point it's not bad

rare plover
rare plover
plucky timber
#

There is a shocking lack of options in the low end market

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Or rather it doesn't exist at all

rare plover
#

Is it us only ot something

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Surely each 8 gb of vram from micron costs a whopping 50 dollars

valid hollow
#

For sure we would recommend to most people to step up if they can- but at that lower strict budget and it’s not a bad choice.

plucky timber
#

AMD and Nvidia had been pushing up the bar of entry for several generations now

rare plover
#

whos buying a 5050 bruh 🥀

plucky timber
#

The existence of the used market makes the 5050 irrelevant

lyric thistle
#

Those who assess the downsides as equal to the upsides

valid hollow
plucky timber
#

These days we have $1000 pcs with used gpus

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That's how bad the market is

#

Not because they can't afford a gpu

lyric thistle
#

I got brand new one in 900 doler pc

plucky timber
#

But because the options available are crap

#

Depends on the week really

lyric thistle
#

Probably not brand new but it was new gen :3

plucky timber
#

These prices fluctuate like crazy

rare plover
#

does it still count as brand new if its like a 3060 that just sat there on the store shelf for 4 years

valid hollow
lyric thistle
#

If they could do something like idk stimulate a stable market for international trade that might help a little bit maybe possibly

plucky timber
#

Used 3060ti would be cheaper than a brand new 3060

#

It was crap when it came out

rare plover
#

I found a guy selling an asus 7800 for 9060 8gb price

plucky timber
#

It's even worse now

rare plover
#

seems pretty nice

plucky timber
#

Same with the 4060

#

Yeah sure that's a pretty good price

#

I've mostly seen 6700XTs at that price so

rare plover
plucky timber
#

NIS?

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Not US market?

rare plover
rare plover
plucky timber
#

wait

rare plover
plucky timber
#

You didn't build a pc based on us market prices did you

#

I've seen way too many people make a us pcpartpicker list

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Only to not be from the US

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Making that whole list useless

rare plover
#

no i dont use pcpartpicker

plucky timber
#

Ok good

rare plover
#

Or well for prices at least

rare plover
plucky timber
#

Pcpartpicker is helpful but for prices it doesn't support it's a really bad reference

rare plover
plucky timber
#

I'd say it's bad outside of the US in a lot of cases

rare plover
#

But for prices i use local

plucky timber
#

Since it doesn't take account of regional specific vendors of a lot of local areas it does support

#

But yeah using local prices is the best practice

rare plover
#

Hellhound 9060 here is like 600 bucks cus yippeee

plucky timber
#

That changes the context entirely tbh

rare plover
#

We love 18% tax and long shipping times

plucky timber
#

Is the used market stronger than the new market where you are?

rare plover
#

no

plucky timber
#

In terms of price/performance

#

If older cards depreciate in price

rare plover
plucky timber
#

Oh

#

Shame

rare plover
#

Best bet is to either yolo it, buy the expensive stuff in the tax free zone or just buy second hand

#

Can try to order from abroad but have fun

plucky timber
#

Well the annoying thing is

#

The budget gpu bracket practically doesn't exist anymore

#

We're really at a point where $300+ for a gpu is "budget"

rare plover
#

just add 150 dollars to everything and enjoy

plucky timber
#

💀

rare plover
plucky timber
#

What

#

That thing's not even worth half as much

rare plover
#

add 18% in tax and shipping fees ig

crimson zinc
#

L

plucky timber
#

Not US market

versed current
#

@plucky timber I’ve having red and yellow lights when booting a newly build pc

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And it’s not booting

#

I can send u the list and pics of the pc if u can help

gentle pollen
#

I recommend for anyone looking to do a pc build to take a look at the Intel and AMD deal list I've just posted.
#tech-deals message

versed current
#

It’s the cpu and dram thing

#

We reseated the ram and cpu and it’s still on

gentle pollen
#

If issues persist, try 1 stick of ram at a time in different ram slots.

versed current
#

Do I look up a tutorial on how to clean cmos?

crimson zinc
gentle pollen
#

What motherboard? Some boards have a Clear CMOS button by the IO (usbs) if not, you can clear it by removing the CMOS battery typically in the bottom left corner or shorting the CMOS Pin.

versed current
#

On the io shield there’s a button that says flash bios

#

Is that it?

#

Do i unplug the power supply then press?

gentle pollen
#

No that is not it.

versed current
#

O ok

#

What is it then?

gentle pollen
#

On your motherboard, do you see the round battery, it looks like a watch battery

versed current
#

Yes

#

Is it big?

versed current
gentle pollen
#

Looks something like this.

versed current
#

Yea we have it

gentle pollen
#

Power the PC off, turn the power supply off but plugged in.

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Remove the battery

versed current
#

How do we get it out

gentle pollen
#

Should have a little lever/spring

versed current
#

No?

gentle pollen
versed current
#

Is it the clip thing on the side

gentle pollen
#

Yes.

#

Press that down to release the battery then remove it carefully not to scratch it.

versed current
#

Push down or to the side

#

Do we use a tool?

#

Or jsut fingers

gentle pollen
#

Not necessary but a chopstick or piece of plastic helps.

#

Fingers can touch the battery

#

Once removed, with the pc still powered off press the power button once or twice and give the board about one minute to ensure it forced the CMOS to clear.

versed current
#

Can’t figure out how to actually get it out

gentle pollen
versed current
#

Nothings moving

#

My dads looking up a video on how to do it

gentle pollen
#

Carefully use a screw driver or something thin and hard to press that lever down then use your fingers to grab the battery.

versed current
#

Is it the black tab with the indent in the middle

gentle pollen
#

Yes.

versed current
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Closest to the battery

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Ok

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It can take a lot of force.

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but be careful

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Alr

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Nah it’s not coming out lol

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If it really can't come out, look up how to jump the CMOS pins. Jumping them is the same, keep the pc powered off and plugged into a outlet then touch the two pins using a piece of metal to short it. But make sure your short the correct pins which are placed in a different location by product.

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My dad said he’s not gonna do that

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Then you will need to figure out a way to remove that cmos battery.

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Yep

gentle pollen
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What’s that flash bios thing do

gentle pollen
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It's to update your motherboard's firmware if you can't get it to boot into the bios.

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So do u think that’s an issue or no

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What cpu?

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Shouldn't be an issue, but I do strongly recommend updating it.

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Updating what

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That cmos thing

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Yea I’m gonna sleep in it and try tmmr

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Omg i got it

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The ram wasn’t fully seated

gentle pollen
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ty!

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@gentle pollen another issue. There’s no WiFi comming up when I booted windows so I have to download the drivers but do I download the latest bios or somthing else?

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For the msi b650-S WiFi

valid hollow
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Alr

hazy drift
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Depends on your budget

hazy drift
plucky timber
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I mean

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Are you running out of ram?

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Do you have a single or two sticks?

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Ram is pretty much the only thing you can upgrade

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The whole pc is pretty terrible so you can't really get any decent upgrades without spending a crap load of money

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Motherboard is not taking an X3D that's for sure

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Gpu...

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While a gpu upgrade would be of enormous benefit

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The GPU market is on fire right now

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Plus you might have to factor in a power supply

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If you want a substantial upgrade you're looking at ~$1000

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Which is pretty close to a new computer

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The best thing you could do is upgrade ram and storage on this computer

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Anything else is a money pit (quite literally better to just build a new pc, might even be around the same price)

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