building-and-recc-chat

[versed current]

So a 3 fan aio would t really work?

Wouldn’t

Should I change anything else?

[snow dragon]

If you have the aio as exhaust and a rear exhaust, you should actually have a net positive pressure with 3 intakes because the aio will restrict the airflow

[versed current]

Is do I get the 3 fan aio or nah

[snow dragon]

Or be around a balances pressure

[stoic island]

Slightly negative pressure would barely increase dust buildup, it's not a big deal

[versed current]

Alr

[snow dragon]

Yeah if you havw it as exhaust its nbd

[snow dragon]

What cpu

[weary galleon]

Ooh good point

[versed current]

So this build and the bottom aio

[snow dragon]

MUSHROOM

[versed current]

Will everything work together?

[snow dragon]

[versed current]

Look at the list

[versed current]

I replied to it ^

[snow dragon]

Oh you dont meed an aio for that

[versed current]

My friend wants an lcd screen

Idk why

But their set on it

I gtg but lmk if u would change anything from steves list and add the bottom aio

^

[versed current]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rtwvt3 @weary galleon is this good?

[weary galleon]

Yes

[versed current]

Ok

Tysm!!

[versed current]

Last question https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-m27q-27-qhd-170-hz-ss-ips-black/p/N82E16824012018?item=N82E16824012018&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-gaming+monitor-_-N82E16824012018&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid+shopping&utm_campaign=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-gaming+monitor-_-N82E16824012018&id0=Google&id1=19482411089&id2=144238864079&id3=&id4=&id5=pla-975232281979&id6=&id7=1027744&id8=&id9=g&id10=m&id11=&id12=Cj0KCQjwss3DBhC3ARIsALdgYxNrh0Q1pS1Zi4JzfZmfubbnZIOFRTh7exLjHgThWOCItdJ7MWME93EaAsmsEALw_wcB&id13=Y&id14=Y&id15=&id16=643989151361&id17=&id18=&id19=&id20=&id21=pla&id22=8438988&id23=online&id24=N82E16824012018&id25=US&id26=975232281979&id27=&id28=&id29=&id30=6706744243700610182&id31=en&id32=&id33=&id34=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19482411089&gbraid=0AAAAAD-YhmNPQ-r-QOGa39kxUFMPsHqNJ&gclid=Cj0KCQjwss3DBhC3ARIsALdgYxNrh0Q1pS1Zi4JzfZmfubbnZIOFRTh7exLjHgThWOCItdJ7MWME93EaAsmsEALw_wcB this would be a good monitor to pair with it right?

[weary galleon]

Holy link

[fallen sphinx]

ew wtf\

[versed current]

Is it good though?

[weary galleon]

M27q is pretty good

[versed current]

Ok

[weary galleon]

Seems a tad expensive tho

[versed current]

Fr?

Even on sale?

[weary galleon]

You can get 1440p 144+hz monitors starting around $150. The m27q is a nicer one but idk if it's worth quite that much

Up to you, you can use rtings for really good monitor reviews

[versed current]

I might just have them get this one

It’ll be fine if they spend an extra 40$

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yh6bHW 990 and better

[versed current]

How the heck did u Get such better parts for less 😭

[fallen sphinx]

by pressing the parts with lower numbers

[versed current]

XD

[snow dragon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mymZ74

[versed current]

@weary galleon does that look good?

[snow dragon]

Damn thats a crazy board discount

[versed current]

Will it stay cool?

[fallen sphinx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093800682601062430/1104613213749923870/Screenshot_2023-03-02_195313.gif

[fallen sphinx]

why wouldnt it

you act like air cooling is just moving air over the cpu

[snow dragon]

Fr

[fallen sphinx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1157767899210068038/1193642917747769355/captioned.gif

[snow dragon]

fr

[fallen sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-war-thunder-war-cat-war-gif-4929875301120562890

[snow dragon]

Very aerodynamic

[versed current]

I’m so urs

Do

[fallen sphinx]

im do urs? huh

[snow dragon]

Fr

[fallen sphinx]

are you confessing to cloud

[snow dragon]

Do his list the board is 2/3 of the price of the one I picked

[fallen sphinx]

meta parts are cheap guys

also theres a much better board for like 20$ more if you want it

1 extra m.2 slot, no pcie lane issues and allat

great vrms too

[versed current]

What monitor should I get for them

[fallen sphinx]

1440p 180hz

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6WYKDj dis one

[versed current]

Like the one I sent earlier?

[snow dragon]

If you want you can replace the card with the one I picked. Both cards are good but the triple fan is most likely quieter. Do his list and get the xfx

[versed current]

All I have to do is update the bios?

And it’ll work

[snow dragon]

It might even support it already

[versed current]

Ok

[snow dragon]

They update boards over time

[fallen sphinx]

if its new it will

if its used it may or may not

[versed current]

This one

Is the one?

[fallen sphinx]

better board for slightly more if you care about upgrade for cpu and need more than 2 m.2 slots

[snow dragon]

Yeah on newegg it supports it, so when you buy it new it will be supported

[versed current]

What if I’m not buying this week?

Will the piece of up?

[fallen sphinx]

then wait till the day or 2 days before you buy

[versed current]

But I should do this one?

No matter when I buy it?

[fallen sphinx]

THEYRE 130???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[fallen sphinx]

ask for a new list once youre about to buy

prices change fast

[versed current]

Ok

I’ll ping I

U

[snow dragon]

I think 1440 really is getting that cheap

[versed current]

Ima tell them this one

[snow dragon]

I have a 25” 1440p 240hz for 180

[fallen sphinx]

i bought my 1440p monitor a year ago for 200... and it was a good deal

[fallen sphinx]

tell them to wait till the day before youre gonna buy

[fallen sphinx]

hell i want taht

[versed current]

Ok

[snow dragon]

Yeah even 200 is still good

[fallen sphinx]

i want smol 1440p high hz 😦

[versed current]

So a 1440p 180hz?

[fallen sphinx]

mhm

[versed current]

Ok

[fallen sphinx]

but ask for a new list the day before you buy

[versed current]

Wait can u add the case that was in it originally

They wanted that one

[fallen sphinx]

ok

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3KHFLc

[versed current]

https://www.amazon.com/ArcticPro-Response-Adaptive-Frameless-Bluelight/dp/B0DDNW5575/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?adgrpid=160184424616&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lfzkWzu2oNGpp7Ic6X5IUtbp8jdn0lZdpOmUjrz6MQaIhuzLCDWY-t8Mxo_v8CchZX6LqxiyId5zdQjNc6IPDzRRGjdrc6cfOeBMf89T4UKtEuLsM-vKXZnMMwZY3z4V68ZzYVdzU0hWzQH1-Rbk9V1ya4GFLmZ0S0BQj7Z3GDptXIeTn864OGHRJ4PX18ys5F99t6QaUUIOX0pzaawNMg.oPckYtFRzx-Q48BmBCxpSgVCHYLSMCzAWv_hiIUY9Xk&dib_tag=se&hvadid=693115546471&hvdev=m&hvexpln=68&hvlocphy=1027744&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=11650618234117212008--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=11650618234117212008&hvtargid=kwd-476495167618&hydadcr=20137_13388477&keywords=1440p+180hz&mcid=8bca31a9ac3931b28d66b9bf82376643&qid=1752460128&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1

[fallen sphinx]

the monitor is in the list

[versed current]

Ok tysm

Can u send a vid of how to copy windows 11 on a thumb drive and how to set it up on a new pc?

Ping me if u do it

[fallen sphinx]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

dis one

[versed current]

Ok so just follow this

[fallen sphinx]

yup

[versed current]

Ok!!!

[velvet hatch]

hey guys im about to purchase this list could someone please gloss over it to check theres not something incredibly stupid about it. ik its not the greatest value as unfortunately i need cuda and a large amount of vram. cheers 🙏
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y6vGgn

[swift aurora]

bad memory 6000mhz cl36, buy this at least TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory and change your mobo to ASRock B650 PG LIGHTNING ATX or msi plus, also in my opinion chosen by you case is overpriced.

[plucky timber]

Hard disagree on the motherboard

The B650 Eagle AX has way better vrms

Plus Asrock isn't exactly the best choice at this moment

For memory

[velvet hatch]

yeah ik the case is a bit overpriced but the it comes with 5 preinstalled fans and im a fan of the aesthetic so ill probs stick with it

[plucky timber]

The cheapest 6000 CL30 kit would do

As long as it's not corsair

[velvet hatch]

is there a big actual difference between cl36 and cl30?

[plucky timber]

There's no reason not to get it

6000 CL30 is ideal

I'll try to shave off money elsewhere

[swift aurora]

6000 cl28?

[plucky timber]

Not worth

At that point just get a 7200 cl32 kit and run it at 6000 cl28

6000 cl30 is fine imo

You're not cheaping out and not overspending either

Honestly that list is fine

Only things that could be swapped out are the gpu and case

[velvet hatch]

yeah it hurts quite a bit buying a 5060ti but cause im doing ml on it i need the cuda and vram

appreciate the help 🙏

[plucky timber]

Eh

I'd recommend checking the used market before buying first

Otherwise that list is pretty solid

[velvet hatch]

yeah ive had a look around but since im in the uk the pc market is pretty dry

[plucky timber]

Just swap the ram kit for the cheapest 6000cl30

And you're good

[velvet hatch]

will do, thanks :)

[plucky timber]

That motherboard should be fine up to an 9800X3D

Not the best priced list but like

It's 2025

Nothing is rationally priced

[velvet hatch]

😭

[plucky timber]

Mostly because of the gpu market

Wait the hell

Is the british pound stronger than the usd now

[velvet hatch]

always been stronger no?

the pound plummeted in brexit but

[plucky timber]

huh

[velvet hatch]

oh wait maybe not stronger but higher nominal value

[plucky timber]

I'm probably just used to looking at weaker exchange rates

Like from USD to CAD or AUD

[velvet hatch]

britain has also been on a downhill for a long time so the pound is pretty crap now 😭

[plucky timber]

Still tho

399 pounds for a 5060ti

Pretty steep

2025 moment

[velvet hatch]

yeah its never what the exchange price would be from the launch msrp in usd they just set the same number in pounds

[crimson zinc]

How is a 9060xt @velvet hatch for you in British

Or a 9070

XT

[velvet hatch]

are you asking about for the list i posted or just in general how the prices are in the uk?

[crimson zinc]

For the list

[plucky timber]

He needs nvidia

[velvet hatch]

it would be much better for gaming but i need cuda

[crimson zinc]

Poo

[velvet hatch]

its very unfortunate 😭

[plucky timber]

Yeah radeons are kinda a one trick pony

Nvidia has a chokehold on the industry

They're the industry standard so

You're kinda forced to use cuda

[crimson zinc]

What about something a tad older?

Like 3080

Or 4070

[plucky timber]

UK used market isn't that good I'd imagine

[velvet hatch]

yeah there's nothing used here really so it would have to be new which doesnt really work. also i chose the 5060ti for the 16gb vram

[crimson zinc]

Ah poo

[plucky timber]

I haven't really seen many good used markets outside of the US

[crimson zinc]

At least that helps slightly

[plucky timber]

Aside from China & Hong Kong

Not sure about Germany

The US and Chinese markets are generally the best from what I've seen

Everyone else ehhh

[velvet hatch]

the pc building community is just tiny in the uk, pretty much everybody buys prebuilts from things like pcspecialist

[plucky timber]

I don't even dream about getting a new gpu here in Australia

[plucky timber]

Aren't there a bunch of budget build YouTubers from the UK?

Then again

Hardware has changed so much over the past few years

Low budget pcs just aren't a thing anymore

Assuming that you actually want to do anything modern with them

Not just the hardware

The software too

Windows, the games

[velvet hatch]

theres a good few content creators but i mean just in like general. i live in london and know about like 50 people with pcs probs and at least like 90% just got prebuilt

[plucky timber]

Oh

Nice cost of living 💀

[velvet hatch]

yeah also everyone is too broke to buy anything 😭

[plucky timber]

Yeah it's probably because it's London

Rent is probably so high that the average chap in Birmingham is richer than the average Londoner

[velvet hatch]

ive seen uni accomodation back when i was studying for as much as like £400 a week and that was a few years ago

[plucky timber]

Ok wtf

50% increase

[plucky timber]

Is that just for rent?

[velvet hatch]

yeah, water and electricity separate

[plucky timber]

Wtf

Is it a single unit or shared

[velvet hatch]

i mean that was for the slightly nicer ones where you didnt share a bathroom too

so single unit

[plucky timber]

I pay that much

Per fortnight

[velvet hatch]

but like you got basically a bedroom and a bathroom and that was it

[plucky timber]

Including utilities and wifi

Then again I live in Brisbane

On the other side of the planet

[velvet hatch]

get me out of the uk man bloody hell

or just out of london

thing is theres no real major tech jobs outside of london

[plucky timber]

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-troll-the-day-of-reckoning-gif-19655212

Go to Leeds

Oh wow

Literally every city that's not London is substantially cheaper

What about somewhere still within the Greater London Area?

Maybe there's some random town that's reachable by public transit

[velvet hatch]

yeah the strategy is live a bit further out and travel in

[plucky timber]

Probably won't be cheap in the long run tho

If this housing crisis keeps getting worse

It's like a virus that just keeps spreading

[velvet hatch]

yeah londons transport is the most expensive in the world im pretty sure right now

costs me like £12 to take a train a few stops lol

[plucky timber]

Wtf

I pay 50 cents AUD

[velvet hatch]

wtf 😭

[plucky timber]

Yeah uh

Queensland is based

Only state with 50 cents fare

[velvet hatch]

and with that bloody price the transport is still awful. got delayed one time by like an hour because the train was too hot for the driver

[plucky timber]

You'd think with how much the housing has gone up

[velvet hatch]

it was only like 28 degrees

[plucky timber]

They'd try to subsidize the transit more

So people can live further out

[velvet hatch]

the current government is doing something with it but prices still havent gone down so we'll have to see

i think theyre nationalising it because it all runs from private companies

[plucky timber]

Have they finally realized it was a bad idea

[velvet hatch]

they never make up their mind on anything lol

[plucky timber]

Yeah they gotta dig a moat as a business expense

[lyric thistle]

la metro is like 1.75 usd flat rate

[plucky timber]

wait

Bruh

[lyric thistle]

probably costs more to use metrolink

[plucky timber]

LA does something right wtf?

Are there delays?

[lyric thistle]

yeah on the at grade lines

[plucky timber]

Hm

Is it viable on average tho

[lyric thistle]

I don't think they have signal priority yet

it's beyond viable

[plucky timber]

Based?

Public transit is highly underdeveloped in the states imo

[lyric thistle]

too bad the city of la doesn't care enough to foster businesses in downtown that are useful like hardware stores lol

[plucky timber]

Probably because the money just keep going towards building more highways

[lyric thistle]

yep

[plucky timber]

"just one more lane guys it'll fix congestion"

[lyric thistle]

departments of transportation stop just one lane short of smooth traffic

https://tenor.com/view/digging-for-diamonds-never-give-up-gamble-gambling-keep-gambling-gif-15498081004227486559

[plucky timber]

Then you get stupid roads like this

You can fit an entire train line in the middle

[lyric thistle]

you could land a stol plane in that intersection

[plucky timber]

I wonder if you can land a CRJ on a national highway

[lyric thistle]

wish I had my copy of FSX rn

[plucky timber]

US city planning is funny

Like

I get it if it's a highway

But this is in a city

Just build a tram

And run buses

It'd be so much more efficient

And you can probably shrink it down to 4 lanes if the city is well designed

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/hard-landing-fsx-gif-27704431

me af

that intersection would make a decent roundabout

[plucky timber]

Me when I slew mode after realizing I'm at 200kts at 30ft

I should break out the old joystick and play FSX again

[lyric thistle]

might not even need 4 lanes if most of the junctions are turned into roundabouts and there's good bike lanes and public transit

I haven't even gotten steam edition

[plucky timber]

Yeah you don't

4 lanes are main roads

2 lanes are generally enough for the average road that's not going to see heavy traffic

At least in a well designed city

It would also help if people can actually walk places

[lyric thistle]

the average dtla street that has two dead ends with 4 wide lanes and street parking

[plucky timber]

Imagine how much parking lot spaces can be used for buildings

If there were just less cars on the road

[lyric thistle]

lots never fill anyways

[plucky timber]

It's funny because when you look at a map of the US

You start from the east coast

Where everything is somewhat normal

Move across the map

And the roads just get wider and wider until you get to Texas

[stoic island]

Hey that's just parts of Texas, most of the interstates are only 2 lanes going through most of the Continental US

[plucky timber]

I wonder

[stoic island]

Like I20 and I40 going through Texas are mostly just 2 lanes per side

[plucky timber]

If they shrunk some of the stupid roads down and put a railway in the middle

[stoic island]

The famously large roads are only going into the cities

[plucky timber]

Would that save enough money in maintenance to say

Run a train

[plucky timber]

I think that makes what make them more stupid tbh

If it's a high volume road surely you can put something more efficient in that space

Hell even a bus lane

[stoic island]

They don't really like doing that in Texas

[plucky timber]

Rednecks and their big trucks 💀

[stoic island]

I mean the city layout itself also kind of makes it not feasible

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/car-wtf-gif-9385293

[stoic island]

It takes an hour to drive through low density areas to get to where you want to go within the same city

There's not enough density to warrant bus stops for most of it

[plucky timber]

That's a lot of US cities in general

[stoic island]

Incredible single family housing zoning/ordinances

[stoic island]

It's much worse in DFW and Houston

[plucky timber]

Lots of low density areas

It's like the opposite of the USSR

Instead of having high density housing everywhere

You get suburbs everywhere

[stoic island]

Cities like Chicago and New York at least has like 30% of the near downtown area be high rises or apartments

Texas takes that and makes it single digits and lets the suburbs grow

[plucky timber]

I wonder how much cheaper housing will be if they built more apartments blocks in cities

[lyric thistle]

no city should be more than 8 miles long

[plucky timber]

You say that

[lyric thistle]

/j but there needs to be densification in every city with sprawl

[plucky timber]

But the large cities blob and eat everything in the vicinity

Like what China is doing with the greater bay area

They're trying to merge Macau-Zhuhai-Hong Kong-Shenzhen area into one big metropolitan area

[stoic island]

But China fits the entire population of the US in those areas

[plucky timber]

And they have funny high speed rail too

[lyric thistle]

houston texas is what it would look like if you took sacramento's metro area and rotated it about the axis of downtown

[stoic island]

They were trying to merge Beijing Tianjing and I think Tangshan last I checked

Supposed to be a huge city that stretches like 100km

[plucky timber]

Buda ate Pest too

Or did Pest eat Buda

[stoic island]

Prob pest ate buda

[plucky timber]

Berlin is getting pretty close to eating Potsdam

Although

Potsdam is technically in Brandenburg

London is just a massive blob in south England

[lyric thistle]

england doesn't count

not a real country

[plucky timber]

You can see the massive stain of London on sat view

[stoic island]

London keeps growing

[plucky timber]

It's funny how China built a stupid expensive bridge from Macao to Hong Kong

And now nobody uses it

I mean there's nothing wrong with the bridge

It's an amazing bridge

It's just that it's stupidly annoying to operate a bridge across three technically separate political entities

[stoic island]

Iirc it was just a political statement that wasn't meant to generate revenue anyways lol

[plucky timber]

Bridge measuring contest

At that point it'd be easier to just annex HK and Macau and to make everyone drive on the same side

And get rid of the customs checkpoints

If I was building that bridge

I would've swapped some of the lanes for high speed rail

I mean it's literally China's thing

Huge missed opportunity

[stoic island]

Prob just don't have any real stations in HK

Or places to build more stations

[plucky timber]

True

But still that didn't stop them filling an entire airport's worth of land in the sea

Would probably actually make money too

The bridge connects to the airport anyways so

Near a major rail station

It just makes sense really

Or at least... More sense than how the bridge is being used now

A lot of the traffic is public transit anyways

Which... Imo

Might as well spend the extra money for the infrastructure for a train instead of just building a bridge for buses

[stoic island]

But that was HK paying for it and in a place that already had some land, they can't really increase the capacity of the rail station there without having to do some annoying engineering

[lilac tinsel]

realistically does nvme ssd brand matter i need a 1tb one and while i could get a p3 plus or so for like 80$ i can also get a kingston nv2 for 60$, i know there are differences like qlc or dram but if it's just for storage

[versed current]

hi

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3KHFLc @plucky timber would u say this list is good?

[weary galleon]

If it's not your main OS drive you can probably just get the cheapest one tbh. If you're putting your OS on it maybe stay away from QLC and get tlc for the endurance

[lilac tinsel]

and if it's the os drive and as long as it's tlc it doesn't matter right

[weary galleon]

Dram isn't too important for nvme drives due to HMB

[lilac tinsel]

like controller brand and such

[weary galleon]

I would find a tlc drive with decent reviews

But you don't need to spend a ton on some Samsung 990 Evo plus ultra blah blah blah

[vague oracle]

Yeah tons of roads are that wide in Poland but we got trams running in the middle of em

[snow dragon]

Only qlc drive i accept is the sn5000

That thing is fast

[dawn iron]

what is a good starter Pc that comes with a keyboard and mouse max of 1500

[crimson zinc]

Lookin to build your own?

[plucky timber]

Bit overpriced

Could be worse

[lilac tinsel]

i mean ideally you would want to buy your own peripherals because why would you want a 10$ keyboard and mouse

[plucky timber]

Why would you want a $10 keyboard and mouse that costs $1 to make

[lilac tinsel]

also that

[plucky timber]

Honestly the keyboard market is getting cheaper and cheaper these days

You can get a relatively good keyboard for $30

[lilac tinsel]

keychron has a super budget one now with qmk compatibility for like 35$ but not hotswap

still solid switches

[plucky timber]

Which is more of a reason to not go for a prebuilt

Because then there's more money leftover to spend on peripherals

[lilac tinsel]

i wonder how much they tax you for the "gift" peripherals out of the total

[plucky timber]

It's ok they make up for it by putting the cheapest power supply in there

And a motherboard with god awful vrms

[lilac tinsel]

dell 💀

[plucky timber]

Parts don't make money

Rgb does

The cheapest piece of crap with some rgb is worth $1000

You can try that on facebook marketplace it works surprisingly well

[lilac tinsel]

and the "i know what i have"

[plucky timber]

-i7 6700, GTX 980 user

[lilac tinsel]

that would make a goated build in 2015

[plucky timber]

Inagine an overclocked 2600k

Could've had the same cpu for a decade while playing games maxed out

From when it came out to uh

2017 I'd say?

2018 ish

Can honestly be stretched to 2020 because games were still fine on quad cores for a while

Probably will have to settle to medium-high settings

But it's usable

[versed current]

Is it fine though

It’s for a friend

[lilac tinsel]

also just so you know there's a bunch of cheap 1080p 240hz monitors now if competitive games are the focus

[versed current]

They don’t wanna do comp

They are doing solo mc with mods and shaders

[lilac tinsel]

oh alr

[dusty coyote]

Okay I’m at my wits end. I have a 4070Ti, Ryzen 9 7900X, 32GB DDR5 RAM, a 1000W PSU. I keep randomly getting crashes. It’s driving me insane. Sometimes I can play multiple multiplayer games in cod but then it will freeze and randomly give me error “: 0xC000000C (0) N. I hav no ideas what to do.

[plucky timber]

It's better than most of the lists I see on here

[versed current]

Ok

[plucky timber]

Prices could be a bit lower if aesthetics aren't a priority

Otherwise it's fine

[urban trellis]

Hey guys I’m looking for a laptop right now for school. The intense tasks I’m going to be doing is probably video editing and possibly some gaming nothing else really intense. I have 2 options right now in my budget either an older Asus ROG Zephyrus S GX502GV-PB74 with a rtx 2060 and a i7 9750h or a hp victus laptop with a rtx3050 and a 7535hs. what do you guys think is better for me? The victus has a better cpu but the 2060 is a lot better gpu wise because of the extra vram. Any help is appreciated thanks

[neon condor]

I really wouldn't recommend either of those but if I had to chose I'd pick Asus Zephyrus all day any day.

Or just get an MSI laptop slap 32GB of ram in it and a fast 1TB m.2 like I did.

And have god tier laptop.

[snow dragon]

Which editing software are you using

Premiere pro uses more cpu and system memory than davinci, but davinci uses more vram instead

Davinci puts more focus on the gpu, while premiere is more balanced when it comes to overall system resource usage

[hybrid ether]

I am beyond pissed at past me for taking so long to build my pc

[urban trellis]

I found a 10750h and 3060 laptop worth it for 100 Canadian more? Other 2 are around 450 cad this is about 550 Canadian

[urban trellis]

I use mostly premiere pro

[neon condor]

That’s a lot better. 3060 is good.

[urban trellis]

Yep 3060 is solid I’m just a little worried about the cpu and battery life

[snow dragon]

Yeah itll probably last like 2 hours lol

[snow dragon]

As much as I love amd laptops its better to use intel because of premiere being able to utilize intel igpus

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/adobe-premiere-pro-crying-bathtub-clothed-gif-864537884625292966

[snow dragon]

Davinci resolve costing no money to use:

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

Unless he owns his copy of premiere, which would be cloud approved

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/resolve-editor-gif-17759757385377093213

[weary galleon]

Resolve my beloved 😍

[snow dragon]

If he rents his copy of premiere, my condolences to you brother

[little osprey]

Talked myself out of a 9590x3d and hero motherboard and settled for this. Tried to read as much as I could about the b850f. Doesn't seem too bad. I'm sure I could've done better. But, I prefer Asus. Anything I should change?

System will have a 5090 Tuf and a MSI - MPG A1250GS psu in a Phanteks P400A case. Planning on getting a NZXT H5 flow

[plucky timber]

Works on my machine

So that's an automatic win for me

And the thing about video editing is

How complex is the work going to be exactly

The thing a lot of people tend to miss is that

Although video editing can be very demanding

A lot of times it's not

Let's suppose a hypothetical scenario where the workload would be: "Editing video game footage into a compilation of clips with captions"

That shouldn't really take more than 2-3 video tracks on the timeline

So you could probably even get away with using the igpu for that

Rendering is another story but the average gaming laptop with a NVIDIA dgpu or intel igpu should be fine

probably even an amd laptop would be fine

[worldly moon]

YAAAAHOOO!!!! Today is the day. Sitting here waiting on the post to deliver my Asrock Phantom 27" 1440p monitor. My old MSI went out on me and I;ve been playing games on an older MSI 1080p 60hz. monitor. It was ok for for a temp stand-in but that 60hz SUCKSROCKS! Anyhoo, Thanks to Newegg I've got a new one on the way a bit later today! So Excited that I couldn't sleep.

[snow dragon]

Yeah

And using render cache makes it less demanding

[neon condor]

Just bring your charger with you. Even Mcdonalds has outlets. They're everywhere.

You can't have a nice high performance laptop & extremely long battery life those two don't go together. Unless the laptop has a stupid big battery, then maybe.

I personally don't have a desktop since I moved, I use my laptop for everything. I sat down and thought about it and was like if I travel a lot I use my laptop, when I'm home I use my desktop but why not just use a laptop that does everything and connect my monitor to the laptop with DisplayPort then just use the laptop like a desktop.

That's what I've been doing and it's been great.

I think everyone should build a desktop tho and experience that before just settling with a laptop. Desktops teach you the fundamentals you need to know about hardware before you can know what's good or not good in a laptop if that makes sense.

@urban trellis And from experience let me tell you a smaller laptop is fine. Dude I've had 15in laptops and 18in laptops before they're too big. A 14in laptop is so good due. It's compact but not too compact like the tiny 12-13in laptops and it's just easier to travel around. Fit's in smaller bags too which means you don't have a giant backpack on.

[urban trellis]

ok thanks bro for the advise

[urban trellis]

yea have a desktop rn just needed one for school

wasnt 100% sure for if id be able to access an outlet the whole time in school which is why i was asking

i understand you cant do heavy tasks and expect long battery life but im looking for a good laptop that i can do light tasks on without it dying on me fast while also being able to run intense programs when i want to plug it in if you know what i mean

[neon condor]

Yeah MSI get one of their laptops throw 32GB of RAM in it and a fast 1TB m.2 and you’ll be solid.

Just look up the model and make sure it’s upgradable.

Then to save battery mute audio set display brightness down & enable energy saver to turn the fans down and clock CPU down.

I’m telling you this MSI I got with the 4060 & 13620H I got on sale for $850 and it plays everything. Like legit everything I haven’t had a game yet that was below 100FPS. And that’s at 1440P

[urban trellis]

@neon condor proper only concern i have is ive seen some tests and with light use the msi laptops last around 2 - 3 hours on light use 😭

[snow dragon]

Damn I just realized

The 3050 you talk about is the cut down 3050 with 4 gigs of vram

The full 3050 has 8 so I was wondering why you said the 2060 has more

[snow dragon]

Honestly it could be worse

My laptop has no dedicated gpu and lasts like 2 hours

My old laptop had an 8300h and a 1050ti and lasted even less

If only that 3050 was the unlocked sku

But yeah you either deal with the worse battery life or spend more on an amd apu laptop

What resolution will you be working with

[urban trellis]

1080p

[urban trellis]

Yea lol

I’m looking at the asus tuf a15 with the ryzen 7 5800h and 3060

Apparently those have really good battery times for normal use more than 8 hours

[queen elbow]

Need Lga1700 mobo, cpu that supports intel quicksync with good single thread performance
As many sata connectors as possible atx or micro ATX my qnap crapped out so upgrading

[real crown]

yeah so i just spilled water into my build and it auto shut off before i could unplug but i have an open gpu so the motherboard is directly open to anything which is where most water landed and i have dried most of the water off and leaving the fan on for the next day or so and im just wondering if you guys think i need to buy a new pc atp or what

or any other tips

oh and also i didn’t see any burn marks on the actual motherboard

[stoic island]

It mainly depends on how sure you are that the water is gone, and how much you trust your PSU protections. In an ideal world, PSU protections should've shut everything off before anything went wrong, and as long as all of the water is gone, it is safe for you to use it again.

[fallen sphinx]

1 what country and what purpose is the pc for

2 what budget

[real crown]

i’m just gonna leave the fan on overnight and then check again in the morning

but all water is gone

[wary laurel]

107 for a new I5 10400F they usually go for about this same price used, if not a little cheaper. Also bought better ram then what I need just for good overhead

[fallen sphinx]

thats... not a good deal...

7500f is like 130-140

MUCH MUCH better cpu

[plucky timber]

LGA1200 in general is a terrible value platform

Used LGA1151 and new LGA1700 are both way better value

[fickle bolt]

What abt 1851

[little osprey]

Newegg prices are stupid right now. Just got all my parts of Amazon for $200 cheaper plus free 1 day shipping. Heading home to install now

[wary laurel]

It’s a good deal

[snow dragon]

14400f is 130 new

12400f is 115

[fallen sphinx]

no

7500f is 30$ more, amazing upgrade path and great performance by itself

Leagues better than a 10400f 😭

[fallen sphinx]

(am5 is better than those too)

[plucky timber]

I was trying to illustrate the point where 10th gen is the absolute worst option

even if you go DDR4 there's AM4 and LGA 1700

LGA1200 boards generally cost more, the cpus are priced poorly

I's just a bad platform

Besides I wouldn't just push AM5 without knowing the full context

[lyric thistle]

12600k is yes :3

[plucky timber]

perhaps the budget doesn't allow for AM5

at which point...

it's still the worst option really

especially when you start bringing in used AM4

or even mixed new and used

actually

I could think of one scenario

If it was a used enterprise machine (optiplexes, thinkcentres) that is around the same price as a coffee lake

[snow dragon]

14400f lookin good ngl

[plucky timber]

price?

[snow dragon]

130

[plucky timber]

not bad

how does it compared to something like a 5600x I wonder

[snow dragon]

Way better than a 5 year old cpu

[snow dragon]

Faster

[plucky timber]

hmm

[snow dragon]

It has e cores too

[plucky timber]

We should make an experimental recommendation list

for an ultra low budget rig

with that cpu

looks like it's got potential at that price

especially as an alternative to am4

although... upgrades are going to be annoying

mostly involving mobo and ram

but it's got some degree of upgradability

assuming ddr4 is used

[snow dragon]

I looked up 5700x on eBay and its not lookin good

[plucky timber]

It's that i7/R7 tax

thing's not worth that much

at least with LGA1700 you can at least get an upgrade to DDR5

or just start with DDR5 to begin with

Zen 3 is....

4 years old

💀

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9n9V9C

something like this with a refurb gpu might be decent

I'd say around $800-900

Not the best thing in the world but assuming that the budget is that tight that it can just about fit this and a used/refurb gpu it's not the worst

[snow dragon]

Lmao 5600x still at $90

Been like this all year

In fact it went up since then

This guy is charging 120 and $5 delivery

Dude you are already overpricing it, just cover the $5

Cheapest I see is 85 +6

[plucky timber]

Upgrade

[plucky timber]

AHAHAHAHHAHA

I swapped the old intel network card into my gaming laptop

To confirm a suspicion I had

The crappy MTK network card in the strix had indeed died

Thanks ASUS

[fallen sphinx]

nah

am5 barely more

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/47dB6Q

[plucky timber]

Ehhh

That's with cheaping the hell out of the motherboard

I also wouldn't say that $50 is "barely more"

The MSI B650-S wifi is way better

For $5 extra

A "barely more" would be a 7500F in there

In which case it'd probably match the price of the i5 list

also CL36 ram

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kzswv4

This is better for the same price

[wary laurel]

No

[plucky timber]

Elaborate

The 12400F is literally the same price

So

$108 for a 10400F is a pretty big ripoff

And I wouldn't even recommend the 12400F as the 12600KF and 14400F are both $129

[lyric thistle]

and if 12600k ever exists cheaper than kf then yes

[plucky timber]

Nah

You ain't getting that igpu

No cheap quicksync for you

[lyric thistle]

too late

already did :3

I don't have a KF so intel pesters me in my notification box

got my K for cheaper than a KF

[plucky timber]

Pog

[fallen sphinx]

You got scammed man

[wary laurel]

You’re just jealous

[fallen sphinx]

Why would I be jealous you got a really bad cpu for 100$

[wary laurel]

Explain why you care so much

Then you will find ur answer

[fallen sphinx]

Because you’re being ignorant

Lmao

Explain to me how that cpu for 105$ is a good deal with 12600kf and 7500f exist

[wary laurel]

Like I said before I got a good deal for a new cpu when these same models hold there price relatively well in the market. I paid about 50$ less then average

[fallen sphinx]

If you compare bad prices to bad prices one of them will look good

[wary laurel]

I’m not sure what you’re upset about or why this is so difficult for you to understand or if you’re just so upset in your everyday life that you need to come on here and try to shame everybody because you’re jealous that you can’t buy new PC parts or maybe you just suck at games in general who really knows what your problem is. But you need to understand. It’s a very simple concept I didn’t ask what CPU was better than the one I got. I said I got a good deal on the ||specific cpu I decided to purchase||

Crazy concept I know

[fallen sphinx]

131$ for a SIGNIFICANTLY better cpu it’s not even funny

[wary laurel]

I have an lga1200 you would know that if you knew anything about the type of CPU I bought I can’t use a Ryzen or else I would need to get a whole new motherboard. It’s OK if your brain dead just do it somewhere else.

[fallen sphinx]

I can afford any pc I want, and I don’t suck at games. I’m merely stating the fact you might’ve gotten a decent deal compared to other bad deals, but compared to good deals you got scammed

[wary laurel]

But I didn’t get scammed buddy. If you need to take a small time out, it’s OK. Go ask your mom for a snack or something.

[fallen sphinx]

You can buy a new motherboard and the upgrade would still be worth it lmao

[fallen sphinx]

You paid 100$ for an incredibly low end cpu, you got scammed lmao

[wary laurel]

There’s a lot of upgrades that would be worth it. I’m building a midrange gaming PC for my little cousin. Again, you have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re just on here to bash me for no reason.

[wary laurel]

If that were true, why are they so expensive and in the used market right now?

[fallen sphinx]

How should I know??

[wary laurel]

Go argue with someone else honestly, you’re not gonna win this

[fallen sphinx]

😭

[wary laurel]

You’re the one here arguing with me you’re not gonna deflect now! lol

[fallen sphinx]

I don’t know why they are expensive for a bad cpu

I’ll admit that sure

[wary laurel]

Probably because they’re not bad CPU at all you’re just an AMD fanboy

[fallen sphinx]

I literally said you can get a 12600kf if it’s a decent price

[wary laurel]

Six core 12 thread processor is perfectly fine for a starter

[fallen sphinx]

10400f isn’t a good cpu now, it’ll work but for 100$ it’s not worth it

[wary laurel]

You seem to have a very strange imagine in your mind of what cpu prices look like right now

[fallen sphinx]

There’s more to a cpu then cores and threads lmao

[wary laurel]

Not for someone who’s not going to do any overlocking, that’s why I bought an F model

[fallen sphinx]

170$ 7600x, 130$ 7500f, 145$ 12600k

115$ 13400f

[wary laurel]

This build was the cost of the cpu plus ram 170$ usd total for an extremely powerful budget bilde

Build

[fallen sphinx]

Could’ve spent a bit more on lga1700 or am5, or even am4 lmao

[wary laurel]

Why would I spend more when I’m trying to spend as little as possible and still get good performance? I know you think you’re the first know it all in the world but trust me I’ve met a lot.

[fallen sphinx]

You can spend as little as possible but your fps per dollar will be terrible

Aka the 10400f

[wary laurel]

170$

And it will be getting 200+ fps in most games

Pretty decent if you ask me

[fallen sphinx]

you could get literally double that for… less than double the money

also thats a stupid way to phrase it, fps depends on a lot of things

[fallen sphinx]

lmao

its a 60$ cpu

[fickle bolt]

No, he js knows where to look...

[fallen sphinx]

its a 60$ cpu at best, and i think 60$ is still a bit high for it

[fickle bolt]

Lol fr

Ooc, what's the best cpu u can get for $170?

[fallen sphinx]

7600x

or 7500f

7500f 131$, 7600x 160$

[fickle bolt]

Hmm

[wary laurel]

It’s almost like you don’t understand how eBay works, or the fact that I said I got a good deal on a new one and the price was not much more than a used one. I looked at eBay trust me, I didn’t want my little cousin onto be stuck with a something that might not work

60$ CPU lol you are bad at rage baiting

[fallen sphinx]

wdym don’t understand how ebay works

[fallen sphinx]

huh?

my guy

those were BIN prices

😭

not even haggled or bid prices

😭

[wary laurel]

100% approval rate means scammer 9 times out of 10. That’s why I didn’t buy used. Most of those cpus selling for that price don’t post

[fickle bolt]

Dude actually get out😭
$170 for a (very clearly) $60 cpu is NOT a deal

[wary laurel]

Can you stop spamming just because you are wrong 😎

[fallen sphinx]

also buying a brand new cpu on a old and dead socket is a bad buy

[wary laurel]

I didn’t pay 170 for just a cpu you’re butting in on this conversation for no reason you didn’t see my original message

[fallen sphinx]

damn i get rage baiting so easily, i should really start blocking sooner

[wary laurel]

Both of you fuming 😂😎

It’s okay to be wrong guys

[fickle bolt]

Blud I been reading this since last night and feel I need to provide

[fallen sphinx]

@fickle bolt ok so hes either rage baiting, a complete idiot, or is coping hard

I wanna bet on the last 2 combined

[fickle bolt]

I put my money on all 3

[wary laurel]

Me when I lie

[fallen sphinx]

ooooh good bet

[fickle bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[fallen sphinx]

@wary laurel explain to us with your… vast… wisdom why buying a new cpu for nearly double its used price on an old and dead socket is a good idea

[wary laurel]

Average PC forms users, trying to troll everyone and getting trolled back😎

[fickle bolt]

even on newegg it aint $170

[fallen sphinx]

he bought it for 107

still got scammed either way

[fickle bolt]

fr

[wary laurel]

You’re doing an awful lot of assuming about all those used CPU’s believe me, buddy I checked every outlet I could for a reliable used CPU you cherry picked a few prices without even looking into the details on those those could’ve been used for mining or anything else. Most of the ones I saw for that price you’re describing didn’t even power on.

[fickle bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kowalski-noted-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-1306663699157096677

[fallen sphinx]

did you just say used for mining

no no no did you genuinely just say that

[wary laurel]

Thays exactly what I wanted to avoid Are you going to try to attack me for the fact that people can use that CPU for mining now?

Way to completely divert I’m glad you’re acting personally offended 😂

“You did not just say that” 🤓

[fallen sphinx]

1 mining on a gpu/cpu has little effect on it, gaming does more damage
2 that cpu was not used for mining lmao

[wary laurel]

Doesn’t change the fact that for those prices you won’t find one that actually powers on. You’re acting like I wasn’t looking at this for days.

[fickle bolt]

you don't use CPUs for mining, genius....

[wary laurel]

In fact, I’ll send you a screenshot of one. I was about to buy, but then decided not to because the listing looked too sketchy.

[burnt stratus]

seems like a good deal

[fickle bolt]

$10 overpriced but looks fine to me

[wary laurel]

100% positive feel back and all the reviews are fake as shit so clearly fake

[fallen sphinx]

still not a great deal

at 60$

but better than 105$ lmao

[wary laurel]

Nobody on eBay has 99.7% positivity rating out of 734 listings

[wary laurel]

That’s not even the right CPU mine would use a 1200 style not a 1700

[wary laurel]

It probably does look good to you. It’s a fake listening and you wouldn’t know any better.

[fallen sphinx]

pretty sure thats just a typo lmao

wait

did you just say

[wary laurel]

No, it’s not a typo because they make a 1700 style if I had bought that and not done my research I would’ve gotten the wrong CPU for the motherboard that I already bought

[fallen sphinx]

1700 style 10400f???

[wary laurel]

Correct look it up

[fallen sphinx]

@fickle bolt complete idiot box marked

[fallen sphinx]

x/y/x

i still feel like hes rage baiting and coping

someones idiocy cant be this bad

[wary laurel]

God forbid I get a new CPU from a reputable seller at a killer discount 😎

[wary laurel]

Agreed

[fickle bolt]

this is MSRP, however since intel discontinued it its a lot cheaper. im finiding $60-70 ones on ebay just fine.

[wary laurel]

Again, you’re looking at used for fake prices that’s all before shipping as well. I don’t know how disingenuous both of you can be.

[fallen sphinx]

killer wallet discount lmao

[wary laurel]

Or not for*

[wary laurel]

Yeah, it literally was like I said it was about $50 cheaper I got a good deal. I saved $50.

[fallen sphinx]

ok since youre clueless in the pc world let me dumb this down for you

[wary laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/actually-i-didnt-ask-gif-10468015569089111915

[fallen sphinx]

old cpu no longer made, old cpu go up in price new, old cpu no longer worth it new, old cpu bad pricing new, dont buy old cpu new

[wary laurel]

That’s probably why I gotta new one for 100$ rather than 150$ 🤯

Crazy how that works

[fallen sphinx]

hey dude

[wary laurel]

And get this if I had bought a used one it would’ve been like $70

[fallen sphinx]

you can compare 2 bad prices

[wary laurel]

Isn’t that crazy?

[fallen sphinx]

and one will look good

[wary laurel]

Isn’t that a crazy concept? I spent a little more and got a good deal to get a new one then spending $70 to get a used one and potentially running into issues isn’t that a crazy concept?

[fallen sphinx]

but theyre both BAD prices

ok yeah im done with this

[wary laurel]

Cry me a river

You’re just upset that you couldn’t find a reason to justify your anger

[fallen sphinx]

i have diagnosed anger issues, so yes i get upset

[fickle bolt]

you're gonna run into issues either way man. isnt intel 10th like 5 years old at this point?

[wary laurel]

Funny af tbh

[fallen sphinx]

so youre making fun of a mental disability…?

[wary laurel]

Oh no I’m so scared 😱 isn’t ryzen 5 also 5 years old

[wary laurel]

Yes I am

[fickle bolt]

also take it from someone who runs intel you'd be WAY better off with amd unless you can't find a gpu

[fallen sphinx]

hes actually clueless

[wary laurel]

Sped

[fickle bolt]

depends which gen you're talking about?

ryzen 5 9600x is less than a year old.

[wary laurel]

Ryzen 5 introduce in 2017 I didn’t say Ryzen 5 9600x I’m not getting my little cousin something that powerful he doesn’t need it

[fallen sphinx]

ryzen 5 means 6c/12t

thats… all it means

[wary laurel]

And I was saying that it was introduced 5+ years ago

[fallen sphinx]

It can be 9600x or 1600x

[fallen sphinx]

its a naming scheme, not a part

[wary laurel]

The same way bro said intel 10 was introduced 5+ years ago I literally did nothing different. You’re still just on here looking for a reason to get upset because you’re a anger sped

[fickle bolt]

intel core i5 was intro'd 20 years ago

[fallen sphinx]

hey can you like not call me that, thanks

[fallen sphinx]

intel 10 is a generation, ryzen 5 is a label

[fickle bolt]

bro left lmao

[fallen sphinx]

dang

[fickle bolt]

8GB GPUs:
why do they exist, and why do people buy them?

[subtle halo]

cheap and they probably just playing esports game

will be nice if the standard is 16gb from this day onward..

[fickle bolt]

yeah

[fallen sphinx]

Actually they dont sell much

[fickle bolt]

its not like its more expensive to load them with moar vram right?

[subtle halo]

it hurts them in business stand point

u can make 2 cards

out of 16 gb vram set

[fallen sphinx]

https://x.com/TechEpiphanyYT/status/1944826511132959138
Cpu sales
https://x.com/TechEpiphanyYT/status/1945461841490047027
Gpu sales

TechEpiphany (@TechEpiphanyYT)

👀 CPU Retail Sales Week 28 '25 (mf)

ℹ️ Units
AMD: 1725 units sold, 92.49%, ASP: 311
Intel: 140, 7.51%, ASP: 254

ℹ️ Revenue
AMD: 535740, 93.77%
Intel: 35604, 6.23%

ℹ️ By socket
[AM5] => 1305 Units
[AM4] => 420
[1700] => 110
[1851] => 20
[1200] => 10

X · Jul 14, 2025, 6:29 PM

TechEpiphany (@TechEpiphanyYT)

👀 GPU Retail Sales Week 28 '25 (mf)

ℹ️ Units
AMD: 950 units sold, 65.07%, ASP: 574
Nvidia: 510, 34.93%, ASP: 770
Intel: 0, 0%, ASP: NAN

ℹ️ Revenue
AMD: 545057, 58.13%
Nvidia: 392656, 41.87%
Intel: 0, 0%

ℹ️ Bestseller
16GB XFX Radeon RX 9060 XT Swift OC Gaming: 100

X · Jul 16, 2025, 12:33 PM

[fickle bolt]

hm

[fallen sphinx]

1/6.4 gpus are 8gb

[snow dragon]

Brotha left after we tried helping him

[snow dragon]

Mindfactory sold 30x more 9060xt 16gb than 8

Why did amd think their more nerdy userbase would fall for it

The 8 gig scam only works on normies

Wow 9070 xt topping the chart by a long shot

No wonder it is still overpriced, its just what I thought

[fallen sphinx]

gg

[plucky timber]

lmao

I scroll up and I see the biggest copefest

It's especially funny because everyone unanimously agrees that he got ripped off

[fickle bolt]

Fr

Bro was on levels of cope unseen by mortal eyes until that point

[plucky timber]

I've been saying for weeks that LGA1200 is a bad idea

especially when the average motherboard costs more than LGA1700

and the cpus aren't any cheaper

[lyric thistle]

"you're a anger sped"

https://tenor.com/view/scam-bozo-gif-4318277829218711639

[plucky timber]

what the hell does sped mean

is this the stupid tiktok slang of the week

[lyric thistle]

Sink water intellect speak

[fickle bolt]

I like how we all js clownin on him

[plucky timber]

I mean

say stupid stuff like that

he's practically asking for it

[fickle bolt]

True

[torn current]

I’m waiting for fans for my radiator, but for now this is working

[fickle bolt]

?

[little osprey]

I got the kraken plus 360 radiator and this things trash

[snow dragon]

Yeah people hate on nzxt for a reason

[crimson zinc]

@little osprey return it and get a thermalright

[little osprey]

I want a arctic liquid freezer iii pro, but the ship dates were too far out

[snow dragon]

Lian li galahad is also really good

[little osprey]

I've had nzxts coolers before. Cam was annoying so I never used it

But, this new one has a display and its smaller than the housing and you can see it

[crimson zinc]

Nzxt bad

[little osprey]

Looks exactly like this. Like wtf is this for almost $200

[plucky timber]

[snow dragon]

[little osprey]

What about this instead

[snow dragon]

209 for open box

wtf

[stoic island]

look at something like this instead
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D1JHNKSW

[little osprey]

I did. The gold accents threw me off

[snow dragon]

I was almost looking at the same thing

https://a.co/d/9MwWMNk

[stoic island]

This if you want it to be without accents and just a pure black look
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DK3JS5QT

[little osprey]

Everyone's cooler design does something that throughs me off

I liked the simple design of the old krakens

[stoic island]

Thermalright has like 70 different designs now lol

there's bound to be one that you'd like

[little osprey]

Thats why I either want an arctic freezer

Or a strix lc iii

[lyric thistle]

if it isn't just a radiator with arctic P fans on it it's a bad design

they need to make an arctic gpu too

gpus are so ugly

all this bs design language that doesn't speak to the card underneath

just keeps it caged

[stoic island]

they had GPU coolers

its like 10 years old

[stoic island]

If you want the weird ring LEDs NZXT liked to put on the old krakens, thermalright has those on a couple of aios too
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DK4T8LW7/

And if you just don't like the looks of any of the fans, and want the look of the larger bladed old kraken aios, you can just buy fans like these separately and still come in cheaper
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BX9RZR38/

[lyric thistle]

just marry these

[little osprey]

I'm too particular about stuff lol. A companies logo might put me off

[lyric thistle]

with a simple aluminum shroud or something

[little osprey]

I didn't like the old deep cool aios that copied the nzxt because I hated the logo

[stoic island]

can just get or print some stickers to stick over them lol

or just buy like arctic p12s and put them on a thermalright aio with a lcd

[stoic island]

either way I'd still encourage you to take some time to look around thermalright's website and see if you can mix and match something to your liking, since they're currently offering good performance at a far cheaper price than everyone else at the moment

[little osprey]

This

If its some company I don't care for, this is the simplicity that I want

[fallen sphinx]

holy overpriced

[fallen sphinx]

dang those are cheap

[snow dragon]

Fr

[low path]

Sapphire pulse 9070xt or gigabyte 9070xt?

[snow dragon]

gigabyte

[gentle pollen]

Iirc just the pump + block can be bought for about $180.

Very overpriced indeed but I think I remember it being good for an AIO at least.

[surreal finch]

Witch one is better a 7700x or a 9600x

[elfin wagon]

gpu 5070 ti, cpu- ryzen 5 7600x3d, mother board- mag b650t tomahawk , ram - t force vulcan ddr5 32 gig, tforce g50 m.2 2280 1tb ssd, cooler - thermalright peerless assassin 120 se , case - lian le cool 216 , psu - msi mag a750bn 80+ bronze non modular 750 watt im about to buy this build
what do you guys rate it
and is there anything i should know

[fallen sphinx]

is there a pcpp list?

also wow theres a few wrong things

what country?

[elfin wagon]

haven't bought it ,my first time building one and i posted here to get help

so enlighten me what is wrong

and the us

@fallen sphinx

i was thinking abt this to https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx

[snow dragon]

The power supply is the weak point in your list

[elfin wagon]

ok thanks

anything else?

[snow dragon]

What speed is your ram

[elfin wagon]

6000

[snow dragon]

Ok nice

Yeah just the psu then

[elfin wagon]

ok can you look at the link i sent and tell me what is better

and how mnay watts shoul i have like850?

[snow dragon]

I dont see anything

The link you sent is a blank list

[elfin wagon]

oh weird

its the 3 in 1 micro center deal for a cpu ram and mother board

dmd the pic of whats in the bundle

[snow dragon]

I think this will be good
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sqbypg/montech-century-ii-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-ii-850w

Oh ok

Oh yeah ok i know the bundle

I just have a nitpick about the ram timings but its still ok for a x3d cpu

[elfin wagon]

ok

[snow dragon]

I think its nice

[elfin wagon]

ok so other than the power supply its good

[snow dragon]

yea

Cooler is good and so is the case

[elfin wagon]

ok thanks

and i think im gonna go with the bundle

[snow dragon]

The g50 ssd is also good too

[elfin wagon]

not the tomahawk

[snow dragon]

I almost bought it

[elfin wagon]

yeah its nice

[snow dragon]

Only reason I didnt buy it was because I was trying to find something just under $100 bc I had a gift card

[elfin wagon]

yeah makes sense

[snow dragon]

There was a $100 gift card promo for $85 so I got the teamgroup mp44L since that was under 100

[elfin wagon]

thats good to

alr thanks for the help

[snow dragon]

[elfin wagon]

😘

[snow dragon]

Oh just so you know for the psu

There is a 1050w for +$20

[elfin wagon]

should i gp for that

[snow dragon]

850 still enough for it though

But just saying if you want more thats all

[elfin wagon]

for future profing

[snow dragon]

If you plan to get a chonker later on then sure

[elfin wagon]

ok

sounds good

[elfin wagon]

also one more question what moniter should i get i what a isp of some kind

[plucky timber]

You mean IPS?

[fallen sphinx]

Eh

It is cheaper than prebuilts, but it’s still kinda expensive for an easy process

[elfin wagon]

yeah kinda forgot what they were called still new to this stuff

[low path]

Good 240hz 1440p res OLED monitor under 600$?

[versed current]

Can anyone adjust this list that someone had made for me last week. Try to keep it below 1,250$ and include a monitor if u can!!! He also likes the case so keep that too 😁. Ping me if you want to help me

[rare plover]

Are these fans any good? ~3 usd a piece seems like temu level quality

The 5 pack is the same price

[stoic island]

Thought it was arctic p12s for a second, but antec p12 is just okay

[stoic island]

Had to re-read this but you should link the list

[versed current]

Ok here’s the updated one I forgot to send the old one

I got distracted

[versed current]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zpTJdb

[plucky timber]

I'd trade the AIO for a better motherboard tbh

Not sure about that vetroo tbh

Not sure if that's the good one or not

Yeah this is the vetroo with no reviews

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbpBRV

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8dFs74

This if you want to keep the AIO

I assume the AIO is there for aesthetic purposes anyways

That being said

If he's never going to upgrade the cpu

The original list is fine if you swap out the psu

Reminder that most zen 4 can't run 6400 CL32

So you'll have to go into bios and set it to 6000 CL30

If it doesn't run at xmp

[snow dragon]

It should do cl28

at 6k

[fallen sphinx]

no its the reviewed one, century II aint in stock rn so be wanted one in stock

[plucky timber]

is it?

[fallen sphinx]

yeah?

pcie 5.1 atx 3.1 version B+

[plucky timber]

Where did you find that?

[fallen sphinx]

psu tier list

[rare plover]

For a lianli 216, what would the minimum amount of fans be for proper airflow

[snow dragon]

The stock fans

[gusty pasture]

@plain cobalt are those... one peice fans?

[versed current]

Should I upgrade the gpu in this to A 9060xt or just re build

[snow dragon]

yes

they are somewhat common now

[snow dragon]

what system dawg

[versed current]

crap

1s

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4yGckf i edited your list

here

[fickle bolt]

I think that might be a bottleneck

[snow dragon]

if 1440p then it would be close to being one yeah

this depends on game though

for my games it would be a bottleneck

[versed current]

Me too

[versed current]

Minecraft with shaders

Lmfao

I have another question

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBTKLKGJ?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zpTJdb

Can I replace the mobo in this list with the one I pasted

Or is it not worth it

It looks almost the same

[gusty pasture]

Thats awesome but kinda bad if u ever wanna move it

[dusty orbit]

is this used pc worth $1000 CAD?

🚀 SPECS:

• CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K (8-Core, 5.0 GHz)
• GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 (1440p Beast!)
• RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro (3600MHz)
• Storage: 1TB Orico NVMe SSD (Lightning Fast)
• Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS
• PSU: Thermaltake 600W 80+
• Case: Tempered Glass "Fish Tank" + 5 RGB Fans
• Extras: RGB Remote Control Hub + USB WiFi Module

[obsidian wigeon]

eh

nope

[gentle pollen]

About $550-650 CAD is the realistic value.

Vast majority of which is from the GPU.