building-and-recc-chat

[fallen sphinx]

9070xt is a FAR better card

9070 too

9070 is 600, 9070xt is 720

[south cliff]

9070 far better?

[fallen sphinx]

yes?

its like 10-15% better

+higher headroom

[south cliff]

I mean like 5-7 percent

[fallen sphinx]

its not 5-7%

[south cliff]

Oh shi 16gb vram

[fallen sphinx]

that too

[south cliff]

If you could find me one for 600 I will tell him to get a 9080

9070

But he probably won’t get a 9070xt since it’s a little out of budget

[fallen sphinx]

oh wait theyre 650 now

rip

9070xt is still 720 ❤️

[south cliff]

That’s 170 more

I could try to get him to wait till Friday and get a 9070xt

[fallen sphinx]

for a like 30% better card

[south cliff]

I’ll ask him if he wants to spend the extra money

[fallen sphinx]

whats the whole build

[south cliff]

Ryzen 5 9600x

Let me send the link

To pc par picker

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tq3WTM

The total build with tax is 1456

Which it was like 1300 before tax

Which I don’t think is that bad for the build

And the power supply is the rmx750 shift

Got a decent deal on Newegg for it for 80

[plucky timber]

Do you need the liquid cooler?

For aesthetics purposes

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qg3WTM

I've made the list a bit cheaper

[south cliff]

No but it’s only 55

[plucky timber]

Well

The RK120 is $30

So you're saving another $20

[south cliff]

My friend said that was his favorite part of the build

[plucky timber]

Ah

I suppose in terms of aesthetics or it's not the most expensive spend

$20 isn't really a lot to spend on aesthetics so it's still in the value green zone

Also would you be ok with refurbs?

Or rather

Would your friend be ok with refurbs

There's some cheap cpu and motherboard deals atm

[south cliff]

Well the bad thing about all of this is that he ordered everything before I could take a look at it

If it adds up to like 100 dollars on savings

I will make him do it

[plucky timber]

It does

[south cliff]

Can you share link

[plucky timber]

#tech-deals

[south cliff]

Which should I get for him

[plucky timber]

7600x and the X670-P pro

[south cliff]

7600x same thing as the 9600x

[plucky timber]

9600x isn't that much more powerful

It's like marginal

So you're saving big bucks from there

And plus the motherboard

[south cliff]

Yeah about 40 dollars

Motherboard about 40 also

[plucky timber]

Yeah that's massive savings

Swap out the ssd for a c910

That's around $100

Give or take

[south cliff]

But the motherboard got 3.3 star reviews

[plucky timber]

Eh?

It is refurb so hmm

To be fair a lot of times it's a skill issue

You do have to take your chances on refurbs

They're not as bad as used boards

Miles better in fact

You also have to take into account the sample size of refurb reviews

You should be able to get your money back in the worst case scenario though

[south cliff]

Ok I’m getting him to return his stuff he bought and buy this stuff

[plucky timber]

Based

[south cliff]

What would you rate the build I mean he probably will stick with the 5070

[plucky timber]

Eh

[south cliff]

Sadly

[plucky timber]

I mean

🤷‍♂️

If you can't fix the gpu

At least everything else is well priced

[south cliff]

I think it will be good for bro he plays Skyrim

[plucky timber]

Wait

Why does he have a 5070

For skyrim

[south cliff]

Well that’s just the genre

[plucky timber]

Ah

[south cliff]

He plays apex

But mostly like Elden ring

[plucky timber]

What if he just gets a refurb 6700XT

Those are around $300 ish

Bit less actually

Should be

Half the price I'd say?

Bit older GPU but it does save him money for when the gpu market has more... Reasonable options

[south cliff]

I know this kinda weird but he wants better stuff than my friend and he has a 4070

I loved my 6700xt

[plucky timber]

So it's like

Bragging rights

[south cliff]

Yes

[plucky timber]

Bruh

I'd just keep the 4070 tbh

[south cliff]

And he just said he wants to spend around 1300-1400

[plucky timber]

He benefits more from a cpu upgrade

[south cliff]

He plays on Xbox series x

[plucky timber]

Than a gpu upgrade

[south cliff]

Our other friend has a 4070

[plucky timber]

Ohhhh

[south cliff]

And he wants it to better than his

[plucky timber]

I think he needs the mindset

That spending more money doesn't get him better equipment

Or rather

[south cliff]

And when he buys something he doesn’t like to change it

[plucky timber]

The price/perf doesn't scale as well

At least in the 2025 scam price market

Oh well

What can you do

[south cliff]

Yeah I seen a tuf 9070xt for 900 on facebook marketplace I had to message bro

[gentle pollen]

He wants to use the computer for Gaming, Streaming, and Software Design and when I asked if he needs a Nvidia GPU he said maybe so opted for Nvidia just in case.

[plucky timber]

It's not really specific

[gentle pollen]

More than once with work (I do some programming, web design, and a lot of research) I use more than 32GB of RAM.

[plucky timber]

I'm more questioning the ram than anything

Then again I use Linux so I don't really run into ram issues

[gentle pollen]

Better to have the extra RAM then not have enough like my father is currently experiencing.

Running out of RAM is a bloody pain in the arse in comparison.

[plucky timber]

I still think 64GB is a bit excessive

2x24GB isn't really that reasonably priced atm too

Relative to 2x32

Which is pretty annoying really

[gentle pollen]

Running Google, Discord, Music App I use 26-40ish gigs.

[plucky timber]

Jesus christ

Is most of that used by the music app

Or is that just... Windows

[gentle pollen]

1-2GB.

[plucky timber]

💀

[gentle pollen]

About 3 for discord.

[plucky timber]

See this is why I don't use windows

[gentle pollen]

And 4 to windows

Also note that's 40ish gigs just with my research

[plucky timber]

I only use that much ram when playing modded games

[gentle pollen]

I haven't even started using my programming software

[plucky timber]

I've never had that much ram usage

Even with 20+ tabs

Across two browsers

[gentle pollen]

And this is kind of my point. If the guy actually does Software Engineering, having the RAM helps.

Otherwise yeah

Go buy 32GB

[plucky timber]

Eh

We still don't have enough details

It'd be nice if the price for 2x32 kits scaled better

[stoic island]

I don't really see how you use more than 32 lol

[gentle pollen]

I'd rather recommend something that can do the requested and then some then recommend a system that hits the bare minimum requirement. But that's more me thing.

[plucky timber]

Well here's the thing

[gentle pollen]

I'd hate it if someone gave me the minimum passing product.

[plucky timber]

32GB is that

16GB is the minimum

[gentle pollen]

For gaming and streaming yes.

[plucky timber]

I have 8GB ram on my secondary laptop

Just looking at browser usage

With 20-40 tabs

That would not max out the ram

[gentle pollen]

Your on Linux

[plucky timber]

Yes but even on windows

[gentle pollen]

And I am guessing those aren't active tabs?

[plucky timber]

The browser shouldn't scale up to that much

[stoic island]

I'm on windows and have never run out of 32gb

[plucky timber]

16GB is what I'd consider "usable but cutting it fine"

[stoic island]

2x16 is very easy to just add another 2x16 if really needed, but the chances of needing that is very low

[plucky timber]

32GB has well enough headroom for most use cases

[gentle pollen]

When I am not doing programming and instead doing my marketing job, I usually have around 30-40 tabs open, plus some research material.

[stoic island]

Without more details, I really don't think 64gb is necessary

[plucky timber]

This is my whole point really

[gentle pollen]

Also it occured to me that I might be sounding rather abrasive.

I apologize if it's coming off like that.

[plucky timber]

Oh no it's good

We're having a constructive discussion over the internet

Healthy for techie recs

[gentle pollen]

Just sharing my own frustrations and why I don't recommend 32GB if someone is genuinely doing any kind of Software Engineering or something that will cause them to have a lot of research material open.

[plucky timber]

Well

My point is mainly that we don't know exactly what kind of software engineering they're doing

[stoic island]

It really depends on what exactly what you're doing though, I was writing OS code and using WSL and never went over like 4gb used for that lol

[plucky timber]

And that 64GB is, in my opinion, rather excessive and seemed like more of an edge case than "99% of the time"

[gentle pollen]

Even just doing my marketing job I use 26ish gigs with chrome, discord, and Deezer (music app open).

[plucky timber]

🤨

[stoic island]

If they have a program they can lift that we can point to and say okay it needs more than 32gb of memory, then of course 64gb of memory would be a good idea

[plucky timber]

Where's most of that ram going

Is it windows caching perhaps?

[stoic island]

But without that, I don't think it's necessary

[gentle pollen]

I will be on pause for a moment, father wants to share something with me.

[plucky timber]

Windows does do that

[gentle pollen]

40+ tabs.

[plucky timber]

If you have ram windows will use it

[gentle pollen]

Because a lot of which I need quick access to.

[plucky timber]

I feel like that's more of a nicher case

[stoic island]

Chrome is weird with allocating ram, it really likes to allocate more than it needs just depending on what your total ram amount is at

[plucky timber]

Rather than the vast majority of cases

[gentle pollen]

I used to use 32 and constantly had freezes

Same workload

Brb

[stoic island]

While doing the same exact thing in chrome, it allocated ~4gb when I had 32gb to run 2 YouTube tabs, and it only allocates ~1gb when I have just 16gb

[plucky timber]

We're also assuming that OP's not going to close tabs

Or have most of them inactive

[plucky timber]

Yeah I've only really run into ram limitations on 16GB

[south cliff]

We got bad news

Bro said that he doesn’t want to return the stuff

[plucky timber]

Unfortunate

But hey

He made the impulsive decision

[south cliff]

I told bro if you found 100 dollars on the ground you would pick it up

[plucky timber]

He has to pay the price

... literally

[south cliff]

Very sad as I want bro to have the best that he can buy but I can’t do nothing about but I will be building the pc for bro

[plucky timber]

Speaking of ram

I should probably get that 16GB sodimm at some point

Laptop shenanigans

One of the dimms don't work and that's why I have 8GB of ram

[south cliff]

Also thank you for the advice/pc parts

[plucky timber]

Yeah np

We micromanage down to the dollar

Also regarding the ram

[gentle pollen]

?

[plucky timber]

If it doesn't work under XMP

Run it at 6000CL30

A lot of Ryzens can't actually run 6400CL32 1:1

[gentle pollen]

Oh by the way

Status update.

[south cliff]

My friend to lazy to click 2 buttons

That narrows it down

[gentle pollen]

5.8Ghz on CCD0 is so far 4 hours stable with -25 offset to all cores on CCD0 and the cores can actually boost to 5.8 or slightly higher in light loads like BKT, BBP, and sometimes in SFT.

And most of CCD1 is hitting 5.8 some doing 5.9Ghz with no negative offset

[gentle pollen]

XMP?

Or are you talking about a faulty product?

[south cliff]

No to return the pc parts he already bought and then save 100 dollars

But clicking a extra 2 buttons

[plucky timber]

Some people have it too good

[south cliff]

The thing is he doesn’t have it good

[plucky timber]

Oh

💀

[south cliff]

He has it mid

[plucky timber]

I micro manage every dollar so I can afford food

[south cliff]

Like in between low and mid

[south cliff]

That’s where all my money goes is to food

I eat out to much

[plucky timber]

I don't eat out

eating out once is like

a week's worth of food for me

[south cliff]

Like in terms of price

And also when I say I eat out I get a 5 dollar meal at McDonald or a 10 dollar meal at chick fi la

[plucky timber]

yeah that's like a week's worth of food for me

[gentle pollen]

You guys are able to survive on way less food than me....

[south cliff]

Yeah I at least get something everyday while I’m working

[plucky timber]

ah

[south cliff]

For lunch

[plucky timber]

that's a bonus

that's one meal off

that's massive savinsg

[gentle pollen]

I mostly cook at home with my father and we go through about $40 a day in food.

[south cliff]

40 is crazy ngl

[gentle pollen]

We try to avoid processed foods.

[south cliff]

I probably eat around 15-20 dollars of food everyday

[gentle pollen]

But we don't go buying "organic labels"

[south cliff]

Yeah non processed food is pretty expensive

[plucky timber]

same

I tried to avoid processed when possible

[gentle pollen]

Consumption wise if I am at say McDonalds I'd devour about 2 double cheese burgers, box of nuggets, a cola, and a Big Mac (when they were actually big).

That's a normal size sitting for me.

[plucky timber]

I can make like 6 burgers for the price of one meal

so

[gentle pollen]

Asia is cheap to cook at home.

[plucky timber]

Australia

[gentle pollen]

Thought you were the one in Hong Kong?

[plucky timber]

was

[gentle pollen]

I miss the price of quality, locally grown food back in China.

Mexico was hit or miss.

Food if buying at the store was cheap but it's all horrible quality wise.

[south cliff]

Dang it’s kinda cool a lot of people in this discord are from around the world

I live in Florida

[gentle pollen]

I will likely be visiting Florida for a few months next year.

Alright folks I need some thoughts.

[south cliff]

I’ve been here my whole life it’s a very nice place depending on where you’re going to stay but it does get boring after a while

I live near the beach haven’t gone in like a year

[gentle pollen]

Do I try to stabilize 5.85Ghz on CCD0 or stick with 5.8Ghz before moving onto CCD1 and then fine tuning each core's co?

[gentle pollen]

I am a hardcore fisherman.

Florida is on the top of my list for gar and shark fishing.

[south cliff]

I’ve never been like actual fishing

I’ve been to a few lakes and ponds when I was little

[south cliff]

Stabilize 5.85 on CCD0

[gentle pollen]

Thailand is on my list to catch a Mekong Giant Catfish.

[gentle pollen]

R.I.P you live in such a good place for fishing. Should take advantage.

[south cliff]

I usually work on cars most of my time nowadays I used to be heavy into reselling pcs and just pcs in general have kinda drifted away over the past years

So I really don’t got time to go fishing

I go to work then work on cars

And it doesn’t interest me as much as some other stuff but it might just be because I have not done it enough times

[snow dragon]

[plucky timber]

Guess what

New install on another laptop

Dual core uhh

Broadwell?

I think?

In any case

Running super smooth

As always

[snow dragon]

[plucky timber]

God

Why is it so annoying to install packages on ubuntu

Spoiled by Pacman

[snow dragon]

At this point is ubuntu even real linux anymore

[plucky timber]

No idea

I mean to be fair

Debian based oses are annoying

In how the package system works

AUR really makes 90% of packages a one line affair

[sullen spoke]

I'm only just trying distros outside of debian now lol

[plucky timber]

Yeah

I don't like the package system

Arch is more straightforward

Haven't tried fedora

[snow dragon]

Idk if its the same for you but on cachy it will autofill previously entered commands and you can complete it so you dont have to type the whole thing again

Like how when you type on your phone it might have a transparent word next to it

Pretty cool ngl

[snow dragon]

Fedora has a lot of preinstalled stuff

I dont think you will like that

[plucky timber]

It's easier to debloat on linux so

The process is the same as arch in a way

I'm just working backwards

[mystic needle]

Can someone tell me where this 4 pin connector goes? It’s the molex connecter but it has that attached.

[plucky timber]

Is that on the psu?

[mystic needle]

Yes

[plucky timber]

If there's not a plug for it

Don't use it

Not everything should be plugged in

I learnt that the hard way

[mystic needle]

Oof what happened?

[plucky timber]

Magazine detonation

[celest jackal]

almost looks like a 4/3-pin fan connector

or usb idk

[stoic island]

it's standard molex, not necessary for most builds

[thorn mural]

solid ATX 650w pick under $60?

Or does that not exist these days

[stoic island]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16817955016

[fallen sphinx]

tbh just spend the extra on a montech century II 850w

non modular is just not it

[snow dragon]

sotru

[plucky timber]

PSU market is weird

The entire market is inflated

The cheapest psus should be at least $20 cheaper

This thing is NOT worth $90

[snow dragon]

Yeah I wonder why prices have gone up since this year started

Probably because of higher wattage cards

[hexed salmon]

Where should I get my pc built if I don’t want to build it myself

[stoic island]

Microcenter

[hexed salmon]

Thank you sir

[quartz kayak]

Hello I'm looking for some guidance on building a PC, I have some picks and I want to know if I should make some alterations

Country: Poland
Budget: $1250 (directly converting from 4500 PLN)
Use: gaming - I play R6 Siege (barely playable on my current PC tbh), Dead By Daylight, Overwatch 2. Looking forward to play Cyberpunk 2077, Witcher 3, DOOM series, possibly Baldur's Gate 3, Marvel Rivals, and Helldivers. I will probably want to play VR in the future.
Resolution: QHD (2560x1140)
Aesthetic: No requirements. Single color, especially black, and some RGB would be nice if there's no meaningful price difference.
Condition: strongly prefer all brand new parts unless the smartest choice is getting something used.

Current picks: https://newegg.io/806555a (I'll pick storage later)
PSU: SeaSonic G12 GM V2 850W (semi-modular, 850W for future proofing, if future proofing makes sense)
Thinking about either the Radeon RX 9060 XT 16GB or RTX 5060 TI 16GB but currently AMD is 300PLN (that is $80) cheaper
I have no idea how to pick a MB, I just looked at one of the cheaper ATX B560's with good VRM temps
not sure about CPU, worried it might be a little underpowered
heard the Lancool 207 has the best cooling for the price, but I'd sacrifice some of the performance for a better building experience (not much space for power cables)

not including storage this would cost me $1200

[fallen sphinx]

1 full modular psu, not semi

[quartz kayak]

Is there really any upside to justify the price difference?

[fallen sphinx]

there shouldnt be a major price increase

[stoic island]

You sure buying from Newegg is going to be the best option for you? Last I checked retailers like x-kom will have better local pricing and shipping rates, unless you're planning on buying parts while in the US. I'd see if you can squeeze in a 9070 over the 9060xt but the 5060ti pricing doesn't sound worthwhile. The sharing link doesn't seem to be working, it might be easier to just use pcpp.
https://pcpartpicker.com/

[fallen sphinx]

im not seeing any poland pcpp

[stoic island]

There isn't one

The point is to have a way of sharing parts still since the Newegg link isn't working

[quartz kayak]

Oh yeah I just used Newegg for sharing, I'll be buying from local vendors

Gonna change it to pcpp later

[quartz kayak]

Currently there's a 1000 PLN/$280 difference between 9060 XT 16GB and 9070 XT, probably not worth.

[stoic island]

Look for 9070 non xt

[quartz kayak]

oh

[stoic island]

9070xt is likely too expensive

[quartz kayak]

my bad\

it is

non xt that costs this much

[stoic island]

It's steep but that's the only worthwhile upgrade for the time being

Stick to 9060xt for now, keep 9070 in mind if you can shave a lot of money off other parts

[quartz kayak]

checked cheap parts and its almost 5000 PLN :/

with the 9070

[stoic island]

Idea is 600usd/2200PLN 9070 can likely fit in a 1250usd/4500PLN budget with some savings on other parts

[quartz kayak]

not a huge difference but a notable one

[stoic island]

Can't check prices rn since x-kom seems to be down lol

[quartz kayak]

cheapest is 1630 PLN for 9060 XT and 2750 PLN for 9070

i know this is not the best way to compare but 25208 Passmark G3D score for RX 9070 and 20488 for 9060 XT doesn't make it seem worth

[stoic island]

This is the idea I'd try to go for to fit base 9070 into the budget, USD market is pretty different but it's the idea
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g4HDdb

[stoic island]

For games at 1440p, on average, it's about a 60% improvement in fps from 9060xt to 9070, doesn't really reflect nearly doubling the price, but you're going to be working with diminishing returns here, and you're going to be limited by GPU here at 1440p

Passmark is usually decent for estimating performance, not too sure why 9070 score is so close to 9060 xt

[snow dragon]

Well 2750 is around 2/3 increase so its not that bad really

Im waiting for the 9070 gre to fill the gap

[stoic island]

Part of it is dx9 and dx10 scores not really mattering for the overall score, the 33% gain in dx11 scores sounds reasonable but a bit low, only 21% gain in dx12 seems way too low

[quartz kayak]

gonna look into it more then\

[stoic island]

Tbh it's possible that they're going to keep gre a China only lineup

[snow dragon]

I understand them doing that for the 7600 but the 9070 gre is really important

The gap it sits in is huge

There is no way they dont release it worldwide later on

[stoic island]

We'll have to see, AMD did come into this generation with the tone of kind of skipping over it, nothing on the high end and gaps in the lineup

[snow dragon]

Great way to gain market share

[plucky timber]

I mean

Not gonna make up for how much they've lost

[snow dragon]

Im just saying that because the guy from amd was talking about how they wanted to gain market share, like this was gonna be a huge bomb but really this generation is kinda like a filler generation while they really put in the work on the next one

[plucky timber]

I mean

[covert vapor]

Honestly even if they did something that'd really be good for regaining market share they'd never get enough out to actually do it

[snow dragon]

Yeah

Brutal reality

[stoic island]

For some game specific numbers, ~40% faster at 1440p in bg3, ~50% faster in cyberpunk 2077 with what I'd call dumb settings with raytracing, still ~50% faster on more reasonable settings

[plucky timber]

They can say it's going to get them market share

But nvidia has a monopoly

And the propaganda machine is somehow working

[stoic island]

I would've liked to use TPU charts for continuity but they didn't even put 9070 on the game specific charts because it's just too far apart segment wise :p

[quartz kayak]

it is

[plucky timber]

I'm not paying that much money for gpus

Not from Nvidia or from AMD

Make a real product and maybe I'll buy it

[stoic island]

What I'd call dumb settings here

[quartz kayak]

im most likely not gonna run RT

[stoic island]

Something more reasonable (1080p native, would be 1440p with fsr on moderate)

[covert vapor]

There are no dumb settings, only dumb people. I think that is how the saying goes right?

[quartz kayak]

its cool but imo it only makes sense for top shelf gpus

[stoic island]

I'd call running max RT without upscaling on cyberpunk a bit dumb for gameplay lol

[plucky timber]

people who buy these products enable Nvidia and AMD

[quartz kayak]

idk how to feel about upscaling and frame gen

maybe makes sense for single player

probably

[plucky timber]

That's a different story

The problem with that lies with game studios

[stoic island]

Don't really need to touch frame gen imo

[quartz kayak]

my friend tried to sell me on nvidia because of dlss

[plucky timber]

The tech is good

[stoic island]

But unfortunately game studios are kinda lazy

[plucky timber]

But how the studios use it is bad

[quartz kayak]

but i mostly play comp fps titles

and no way in hell im using it for that

[plucky timber]

They use DLSS and FG as an excuse to not optimize

[stoic island]

FSR gets you 90% of the way there, better in some cases, worse in some others

[plucky timber]

Which

This kind of development

[stoic island]

But yea just run games native for comp

[plucky timber]

Is why I don't need a new pc in the first place

There are no games to play

No need to upgrade anything

[quartz kayak]

i def need to tho

r6 runs like shit

[stoic island]

I'm playing less than 1 month old games so I'm still needing a good GPU

Not solely playing paradox games lol

[quartz kayak]

i have a GTX 1060

[plucky timber]

$60+ for crappy games and almost $400 for a decent gpu

No thanks

$400 used to be my entire pc

[stoic island]

R6 can run well on relatively bottom tier current gen hardware

[stoic island]

For me, there have been some very good games still

[quartz kayak]

after the SIEGE X update its not very good on 1440p

[plucky timber]

I haven't seen any that can justify the price tag

Well

There is one game

The french game

[snow dragon]

Wow I am impressed

[plucky timber]

Honestly a better spend

[snow dragon]

My friend has a 1070 and is really trying to find something to replace it

[plucky timber]

Noooo

[stoic island]

I never had any issues with performance in siege ever, but I haven't touched siege x

[quartz kayak]

even with upscaling, TAA or lowering resolution

[covert vapor]

You never saw this

[plucky timber]

Wait

I want to hear about the doctor who

[covert vapor]

Nope, I've mind wiped

[quartz kayak]

basically unplayable

[covert vapor]

Never to be heard of again

[stoic island]

French? Eugen systems? WARNO?

[covert vapor]

Nah but some of the Complete Edition seasons are $28 on Amazon in the US rn

[plucky timber]

The french AAA game that everyone was raving about

[stoic island]

WARNO has been on sale for pretty cheap though

Uh I'm not sure what you're talking about then

Was dune made by French devs?

[covert vapor]

Eugen made RUSE

RUSE was good

[plucky timber]

Expedition 33

[stoic island]

I still have no idea what that game is about

[covert vapor]

Eugen also made Steel Division

Which I don't like as much

[stoic island]

Wargame red dragon though

Peak

[plucky timber]

Prinz Eugen

[stoic island]

Oh yea peak has been a fun game lol

[plucky timber]

I've probably spend more time watching new (old) tv shows than playing new games

[covert vapor]

Sadly RUSE was nuked off the face of the planet with a Long Tom

[stoic island]

I've spent a ton of time recently with broken arrow

[plucky timber]

Well

I did buy one game

Rule the Waves 3

So

The meme about me not needing a GPU

[covert vapor]

I haven't bought any media recently

[plucky timber]

I don't even need this igpu

This igpu is overkill

[covert vapor]

I will be buying a season of DW tho for that sweet sweet Shada remaster and reanimation

[plucky timber]

I'm waiting for uhh

Cheap blu rays of older shows to pop up on ebay

Or dvds

I should probably fix my nas situation

The lenovo bios is giving me a hard time

I might go hit the $5 dvds

See if there's anything good

Ideally blu rays

[covert vapor]

They also did a remaster of The Five Doctors for the Complete blue ray set for PD's second season but those are still like $50 USD rn

[plucky timber]

But I don't have a player atm

[plucky timber]

Yeah

I've been eyeing the TOS box set

With original and remastered VFX

Now I've added all of star trek

Because no more netflix

[covert vapor]

They've released a set with both the OG and remasters?

I thought they only did versions of each in their own sets

[plucky timber]

Yeah there's a set with both

[quartz kayak]

absolute ASS

[plucky timber]

Ubisoft moment

I used to run that game on a 570 4GB at 1440p high

[quartz kayak]

native 1440p no TAA

[plucky timber]

At over 100fps

[quartz kayak]

Y1S4 I used to play this game on a 5:4 monitor, downscaled res to something like 800x600@50FPS

🥲

[stoic island]

In Y3S3 I used to run siege off an iGPU and got 1080p30 ish lol

[snow dragon]

30 people made expedition 33

Those are some rich 30 people fr

[covert vapor]

What happened to the other 3

[plucky timber]

rich?

Bourgeoisie?

They should be glad it's not the 1790s

[snow dragon]

They got lost in the expedition

[covert vapor]

'Lost'

[covert vapor]

Seems sus

They just wandered off and never returned

Right next to a really tall cliff too

[quartz kayak]

@stoic island

the not-cheapest intel build with RGB, I unfortunately am affected by consumerism

Later I'll do a cheaper and an AMD version

unless you have some tips

[stoic island]

I would not go for nitro+ with the 12vhpwr connector, there haven't been any issues with the connector on 9070s but it has been very problematic for 50xx cards, better to get anything else that still uses 8 pins that are more proven

[quartz kayak]

ASRock Challenger?

[stoic island]

that would work fine, nitro+ is the only one that uses 12vhpwr

and since you don't need 12vhpwr you can go a bit cheaper on the PSU since you don't need ATX 3.0

something liike this
https://www.x-kom.pl/p/604215-zasilacz-do-komputera-cooler-master-mwe-gold-v2-750w-80-plus-gold.html

[quartz kayak]

oh actually

XFX Quicksilver OC Gaming is a bit cheaper

[stoic island]

reaper is 2750pln like the nitro plus if needed

[quartz kayak]

wanted atx 3.0 in case of a future upgrade

unless

that's pointless

or 3.1 actually

[stoic island]

personally I still think the standard is flawed

needs another update before I'd trust it

there has been a lot of videos on it like this that talk about how much is wack with the standard
https://youtu.be/Y36LMS5y34A

[quartz kayak]

yeah I've heard

[stoic island]

because the problem seems to be on both ends too, they have been melting on the PSU side as well as the GPU side

[quartz kayak]

overheating from bending and not a proper connection

[stoic island]

we need to wait for the spec to actually do load sharing

[quartz kayak]

and poor connector quality iirc

[stoic island]

because it doesn't matter how well you've connected it or how well you've insulated it or anything like that if the spec itself doesn't spread the load across the 12 pins and everything goes through 1 pin

from the derbauer video:

I'm still not going to trust the standard without them adding something to do load sharing lol

[stoic island]

and that was only the first wave, problems that was seen with 4090s and such from about a year ago, we've had another wave of issues this generation, even with the slightly updated standards and with manufacturers doing stuff like making the connectors yellow and Asus adding a light to warn you, we still got problems here and there

anyways enough crapping on the standard, there's a lot of videos and info on it if you're interested, if not, just don't use it for now

[snow dragon]

As far as I know there was one melted connector with the sapphire

Actually the fact that happened at all is insane

[stoic island]

on the 9070xt iirc, don't think any has happened on 9070 since lower power lol

[snow dragon]

That card uses half of what it is rated for

[snow dragon]

Oh true

[stoic island]

or at least not yet

lol

[quartz kayak]

now should I even think about getting higher wattage for a possible graphics card upgrade?

[snow dragon]

If it does melt on a 9070 then we gotta do something about it fr

Do you mean psu

[quartz kayak]

yeah

[snow dragon]

What you got rn

[stoic island]

You can, it's your choice, but I'd still try to get 8 pins lol

[snow dragon]

Yeah

[quartz kayak]

right

[snow dragon]

Ima use that beloved 8 pin until I stop gaming

[quartz kayak]

If I were to, do you guys think 850W would be enough? I imagine it's hard to tell, though to me it looks like gpu power draw seems to constantly go up with every new series

[stoic island]

all I can say is 850w is more than enough for most GPUs rn

[snow dragon]

Yeah only reason I would justify getting more is if you are using an itx system and you want to have a quieter unit

What wattage you have rn

[quartz kayak]

ofc i dont want a turbo jet but idc for complete silence

[quartz kayak]

its for a pc I'm planning to get

[quartz kayak]

.

RX 9070, i5 14400F/R5 8400F

wondering if I will ever upgrade it or get something completely new again in like 7 years or something

or 5, or who the hell knows

don't know what's the smartest move, never had a brand new pc

[gentle pollen]

Better to do smaller upgrades every year or two then one big one every +5 years.

This way you will see regular improvement vs seldom improvement.

And if the tech is only a year or two old, you can still sell it second hand to recoup some costs

[fallen sphinx]

no

selling is a hassle, its way better to do the big upgrades, youll lose less money that way

[weary galleon]

I think the sweet spot for PC upgrade value is probably in between those; like 2-4 years. Less than that and you're falling for the expensive "future proof" components but more often and you are likely buying budget hardware that isn't great price/perf (ie Nvidia xx50)

[midnight heart]

Andddddd….im officially depressed

[wary laurel]

Helo chat

[hardy hamlet]

Hey guys I need some help with my pc, using after like 8 months since I was at uni, now I'm stuck in an infinite boot screen. Specs:
I3-9100f cpu
H310M PRO-VH PLUS mobo
1050ti gpu

It's been like an hour and im still stuck in the logo screen before boot. All help is appreciated

[stoic island]

Clear cmos and see if that helps

[hardy hamlet]

I did that, its now asking me to run setup or either continue, which one shd I do?

[stoic island]

Run setup again

[hardy hamlet]

im in bios, shd i do anything or just exit and continue boot?

[stoic island]

Just exit and reboot

[hardy hamlet]

don't think it worked 😦 back to the logo screen

[stoic island]

check the available boot devices in bios

something might be wrong with your windows boot drive

try boot override or something of that sort to see what happens if you directly tell it to boot off of it, if the drive itself doesn't show up, try reseaeting it or using a separate slot

[hardy hamlet]

The boot device shows up and is set as boot option #1. Bios also properly detects the storage space of my drive

[dusty orbit]

is this listing worth?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/753591907018557/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Ae05d63b2-bfca-43b3-9f05-a8e3187ca317

[fallen sphinx]

1 what games do you wanna play
2 do you have any part of a setup currently

[runic spruce]

Opinions on whether I should move the top exhaust fans to the aio

I think it’d help air flow but not too sure

[dusty orbit]

i wanna play league and valorant at 200 fps

[gentle pollen]

In the pins, there is a form you can fill out that will make it a lot easier for us to recommend the proper parts.

[pulsar vector]

Hi, Please can you tell me and provide me with the link for the 64GB or 128GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 ECC RAM memory that is compatible with this board?
Supermicro Server Motherboard MBD-H13SSL-N Socket SP5 AMD 4th Gen EPYC™ 9004/9005 Genoa, Up to 3TB 3DS ECC RDIMM DDR5, ATX

[stoic island]

There's nothing in the Corsair Vengeance line that are rdimms that would be compatible with that board. Everything in the vengeance line are udimms, which would be incompatible and would not have sideband ECC as with rdimms, all ddr5 have on-die ECC, and the advertisements may make it sound like it's equivalent to how ECC was on ddr4, but it's different from sideband ECC as with ECC on ddr4.

Corsair has a separate WS line that are rdimms, but it is much more expensive
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/memory/cma64gx5m4b6000c40/ws-ddr5-ecc-rdimm-64gb-4-x-16gb-ddr5-dram-6000mt-s-cl40-memory-kit-cma64gx5m4b6000c40

[upper ore]

How long does a psu normally last? And would it be the cause of a game crashing when trying to launch it. Like the initial launch

I feel like it would be but I need a second opinion.

[stoic island]

easiest way to know is to look at how long warranty is lol
PSUs passively deteriorate at a rate of something like 10% of its capacity every 5 years iirc, it's not something that would just crash a game, if the PSU trips, the entire PC will shut down.

[upper ore]

Crap idk what it would be. Because I was also thinking it would be that because I can't really run my new ram at the higher speed its supposed to be.

[stoic island]

unstable ram can definitely do that

[upper ore]

Its brand new ram

Something is seriously wrong with this old dinosaur that I gave my girlfriend. I built it back in like 2019.

[lyric thistle]

I feel like RAM QC is pretty shitty in the industry

I got a kit for my laptop and one of the sticks went kaput after a week

Returned for replacement, new kit works

[snow dragon]

Must ship product to consumer

[lyric thistle]

True

[stoic island]

Brand new can still be unstable, Corsair for example is notorious for being unstable at xmp out of box for ddr4 lol

[upper ore]

What else could it be? Like it works normally for everything else just some games its practically unplayable. Like tiny tinas wonderland. I just bought it for her and she nearly got to the end of character creation. After I dropped everything down as low as possible. And it still crashed

[stoic island]

It can be drivers issue, sometimes game bug, sometimes windows issue with corruption or bug in general, it can be instability in anything you've overlocked, and in RARE cases it might be something to do with the PSU voltage regulation with a rail being too high or too low, but that tends to be indiscriminate tripping or crashing

[upper ore]

I never overclocked anything on it because it was my first pc and I didn't trust myself. I think it could very well be a driver or windows issue. I just did a clean Nvidia drive update. And well its still on windows 10 because I hate windows 11. Wait a minute would transferring my windows from my old pc to my new one be the cause? 🤔 I honestly dont know at this point. I just wish I could get this fixed for her im starting to feel bad. And neither one of us can afford a new one.

[stoic island]

Nvidia drivers have been very wacky recently, although newest drivers should be decent, you can always test DDU and reinstalling 566.36, last known stable driver before the 572 wacky stuff

If you suspect windows shenanigans, always good to do dism and then sfc

[upper ore]

Ill give those a try. I think the new one works. Ill try them

[modest iron]

Hello guys, im looking for a prebuilt from https://www.infiniarc.com/en/
can anyone recommend one of them
preferably in between 3,000 - 5,000 riyal ﷼

[snow dragon]

Their options are not good

But this is in between your budget range

https://www.infiniarc.com/en/shop/pc-rtx-4060-8294

why it says 4060 ti when it brings you to the 5060 ti

alr well it is the 8 gig card, which is blasphemous to recommend in this server, but there is a 5060 system that is more expensive than this

and another 5060 system that is slightly cheaper

and the crappy ram wont hurt the intel cpu as much

[modest iron]

If im going with custom build, what should i get

Preferably 4.5k and below

[snow dragon]

you mean building it yourself or a custom build from them

[modest iron]

Ye building it myself

[snow dragon]

This is on a website called microless and although it is a little over your budget, you have better parts

Faster ram and a better ssd

Also 2 tb while the prebuilt had 1

The psu is better too

Now the gpu is tricky because the 9060 xt is not much cheaper, but actually slightly outperforms it in rt and also has better upscaling

So it depends on what you play

If you dont play rt games then you can take the ~20% gain the 7800 xt has when not using rt

the 9060 xt cuts down the price by 128, so not a lot. the better value system is the 7800 xt if you dont use rt and dont upscale

lmao i just realized its white in a black system

well the white version of the thermaltake case costs no more than the black one if you care about that stuff

that 7800 xt is on sale though, which is why its not that expensive compared to the 9060 xt

im sure when the sale ends it will be much more expensive

also i bet that 7800 xt is gonna run pretty hot because that thing uses like 250w and it is a 2 fan card while not being very thick either

all of this is assuming you are at 1440p

if you are at 1080p you can get a cheaper card, but i think if you get a 9060 xt at 1440p over a 7600 xt at 1080p, you will get more time used with it because of the better upscaling and rt

[random cobalt]

Hi,
I have :-
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
ASRock B450 Steel Legend

I Had RTX 2060 previous which is not working anymore so i am getting a new GPU. Not sure what to opt for also had Asked Chatgpt few build suggestions - it came up to RTX4070 Super.

But i am not sure exactly/confident if the gpu is supported or will support as i am going to be ordering online. Can someone suggest/help. 😅

[stoic island]

What's your budget and what PSU do you have

[heady jewel]

Ello, Im sure if this is the right channel but I had a question. Is the Fantastech 15$ promo code only eligible for Newegg card holder? I was wondering if i could buy it using my regular card and still get the discount.

[fallen sphinx]

never ask chatgpt

1 what country are you in
2 whats your budget
3 whats your psu

[void skiff]

What pre built PCs are recommended for under 1000$?

[stoic island]

What are you looking to use it for?

Anything specific you want to run?

[void skiff]

Mainly gaming but also some 3d printing

[stoic island]

so are you looking to do cad? any specific software?

[void skiff]

No specific software in mind but I do plan on using cad

[stoic island]

Unfortunately prebuilt prices are still not great rn, and the options arent great, but this would be a start
https://www.newegg.com/stormcraft-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5060-intel-core-i5-14400f-32gb-ddr5-2-tb-ssd-sirius-black/p/N82E16883420026

[stoic island]

Would you be unable to build it yourself?

[void skiff]

I could but prefer not to if I can get something that much better for around the same price I would

[stoic island]

Building one yourself would be cheaper and you would have the freedom to pick and choose what you'd like

[void skiff]

Ok but is there an AMD motherboard you can recommend?

Something that would let me upgrade easily in the future

[molten pebble]

1. Are you in the US
2. Are you at least 18+

[void skiff]

Y

[molten pebble]

mind if I send a DM

[void skiff]

No you can

[stoic island]

It'll be a bit dependent on what the rest of the build would look like, as an example, right now this is decently priced and has enough features for basically anything
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DQBT2DZ8

Looking at prices right now, if you want the build to fit under $1000, the best way would be to check if you live close enough to any microcenters to take advantage of the bundle deals

[void skiff]

I actually do so I'll take a look soon

Also thank you for the help the motherboard looks perfect

[stoic island]

Here's a quick pcpp list that would be the equivalent of a better prebuilt, but also ~$60 more expensive. You'd be able to cut down on the cost with microcenter CPU+Mobo+Ram bundles, although probably with a slightly different selection. I wouldn't really recommend 9060xt 8gb rn but I'm just leaving it in to have near price parity with the 5060 8gb prebuilts, 9060xt 16gb is better and worthwhile if you're ever going beyond 1080p for gaming, but also more expensive.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/skTrQd

An example microcenter bundle:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006968/amd-ryzen-7-7700x,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

Although one thing to note is that if you're looking to do cad, and end up using blender, Intel CPUs are still a decent bit ahead in terms of blender performance, while AMD CPUs do better in most other applications

[zenith cargo]

can anyone recommend a good smooth mousepad?

daily use no hardcore gaming, just want something smooth as a cloud

[snow dragon]

https://mykeybrd.com/products/japanese-cloud-white-deskmat
https://a.co/d/395ITjA

the second one is what i am using rn

I have not used the first one but it looks very smooth

Oh the first one is a little bigger than mine

Mine is like 15.25 x 35

You are not a real person

[zenith cargo]

AsiaHorse 16AWG PSU Cable Extension Sleeved Custom Mod GPU PC Audio Video Power Supply Soft Braided Cables with Two Color Comb Kit 24P/8P to 6+2P/ 8P to 4+4P 30CM https://a.co/d/auLiV5h

Are these safe for my pc?

[fallen sphinx]

ew

[fallen sphinx]

that list is messed up btw

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zqwydb this is better

(you put 2 diff ram kits lmao)

[stoic island]

oh lmao

Yea uh that mobo went from $130 yesterday to 160 now

was swapping the 6000c30 kit for 6400c32 since cheaper there but forgot to remove the old kit

[lilac tinsel]

got a fan pack of p12s from arctic and for some reason every time there's a steep rpm change and also on pc boot it makes this annoying grinding noise, anyone know why? it's not even just one fan, all of them do it slightly but together it sounds worse

aside from them being ridiculously loud lmao, even at 600 rpm you can easily tell the pc is on, contrary to every yt video showcasing them making no noise

[low path]

Found a 5080 pny at microcenter for 1271 in total

[snow dragon]

Considering the circumstances I guess 1270 out the door is acceptable

[fallen sphinx]

honestly cl30 is barely more expensive and is worth the extra bit since less hassle

[stoic island]

now it is, at the time of making the list, the cheapest 6000c30 kit was $15 more than the 6400c32 kit, worth shaving that bit off since I was trying to get it closer to 1000

it would've been basically 1000 if I noticed I left the first kit in still lol

[quartz kayak]

I am going to build my PC tomorrow
And I forgot to order thermal paste 🤦‍♂️

[gusty walrus]

Yo does anyone know why my pc fans ran super loud and then my monitor went black? This is happening every couple minutes

[stoic island]

If you're on Nvidia, DDU and update or rollback your drivers

[weary galleon]

The cooler likely comes with paste

[snow dragon]

tru..

[onyx harness]

hello, im looking for help building a gaming pc. i dont have much knowledge and would love some help 🙂

[fallen sphinx]

whats your budget and country?

[onyx harness]

im from the usa, i live near a microcenter (idk if that helps), and my budget is 2500 k

[fallen sphinx]

alr

[fallen sphinx]

is it strictly a gaming pc?

if it is, id recommend spending less than 2500, and saving like 700$

[runic spruce]

Living by microcenter is poggers, discount heaven for pc nerds

[runic spruce]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yH3vt3

I didn’t include a case ( I recommend one with good airflow) but u can pick one if u click edit

Or just search through amazon or Newegg or whatever

This is pretty focused on gaming mostly, I also saw there were rumors of a 5080 super so it might be worth waiting

[onyx harness]

yes

[onyx harness]

ah okay tysm

[velvet hatch]

could anyone help me out a bit with this parts list. i’m building a budget ish pc for 50/50 ML training + inference and gaming which means i need cuda and a somewhat decent amount of vram. i’m currently thinking between a 12gb 3060ti and the 16gb 5060ti but i’m only gonna be at 1080p so is the 5060ti worth the extra cost or is the 3060ti dead in 2025 i’m not entirely sure. i’m also open to change on the case i chose it cause i liked the aesthetic and it came with 5 preinstalled fans. i would also like to keep it upgradeable thats why i’ve squeezed onto AM5. hard budget of £1000 but ofc if i could id love to go cheaper lol. any advice is appreciated 🙏

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/b9C9db

[obsidian wigeon]

if you do ML training the more vram the better

the whole list looks pretty good

[velvet hatch]

appreciate it, i’ll stick to the 5060 ti then

[snow dragon]

Yeah I think 16 is ok

depends on the model and how much of it you load onto the card

[velvet hatch]

i’m not gonna be doing any major llm training on it because i have access to a hpc it’s more for “lightweight” testing of like cnns or fine tuning before sending off large projects to the hpc

[obsidian wigeon]

16gb would probably be plenty

im not well versed in this however

[velvet hatch]

yeah i reckon 16gb is the most i can get at this budget

thanks guys, i appreciate the advice

[snow dragon]

Yeah 16 will be good then

for what you are doing

should be

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QjsB6Q
This would be better

also you do realize youre NOT getting a 5080 for msrp right

[runic spruce]

Both our list are within $100 of each other if the “msrp” 4080 was changed to a 9070xt and if a case of less than $80 were added to mine while shopping from microcenter

[runic spruce]

She said a microcenter was nearby her, so there’s a better chance of one actually being there

[fallen sphinx]

microcenter doesnt carry msrp 5080

[runic spruce]

They do?

[fallen sphinx]

where?

[runic spruce]

In store, varies on location

[fallen sphinx]

the LOWEST im seeing is 1200

and im suprised its not been sold out lmao

[fallen sphinx]

thats a 4080

huh?

[runic spruce]

Oh you’re right I’m dumb

[fallen sphinx]

4080 for 950 is a scam

[runic spruce]

Yea 9070 xt would prob be better

[fallen sphinx]

yup

[runic spruce]

@fallen sphinx assuming the 5080 was $1000 msrp wouldn’t it better than the 9070xt

[fallen sphinx]

value wise no

and that includes the 9070xt being 720 rn

[lime adder]

I need some mad help with my pc. My gpu isn’t getting any power or signal yet it’s plugged in correctly along with the psu cord.

[stoic island]

What's the context, new build or old build?

[lime adder]

New build. Like I just got the gpu today

I unboxed it. Put it into the slot. And it just won’t turn on.

I put in the psu cord. And the hdmi cord. And it won’t work

It’s all compatible too

[stoic island]

Did it boot beforehand without the GPU?

[lime adder]

No. Bcs I don’t have integrated graphics on my cpu

[stoic island]

Are there any debug LEDs on the mobo

[lime adder]

It turned on and everything before. But no screen

Nope

It’s green

[stoic island]

What motherboard is it

[lime adder]

B650

WiFi

[stoic island]

Which exact model

[lime adder]

B650 gamer plus WiFi

*gaming

[stoic island]

MSI or Asus

[lime adder]

And a 5070ti with a ryzen 7 7800x3d

[lyric thistle]

Maybe the PCB is bent funny and it needs to be supported to run properly, my GPU is bent funny and doesn't like tooo much support or it will fail to post

[lime adder]

Mai

Msi

[lime adder]

How do I fix that

Just put something under it

[lyric thistle]

Yeah, ideally an adjustable GPU support so you can dial it in

If that is the issue, no guarantee

[stoic island]

There should be debug LEDs on the top right of the motherboard, what light does it stay on?

[lime adder]

Gotcha

No it’s only been showing green.

It goes white. Then green.

Like white for a second

[stoic island]

Cycling through them is normal, what matters is what it ends up on

Does it stay on green?

[lime adder]

Yea it just ends up on green

Yea

[stoic island]

What drive do you have?

And in which slot

[lime adder]

The 1st one

I have a Samsung 990 pro

2tb

It’s in the heat sink slot

My guess is that something’s wrong with my power supply cord.

Bcs I’m not getting any power to the gpu

[stoic island]

Why do you think that? Debug LED is saying it's something to do with the drive

[lime adder]

Oh gotcha

[stoic island]

Do you have any other m.2 drives you could test with? And could you take off the heatsink and double check that it is properly seated?

[lime adder]

Sadly I don’t have any other drives

I could just try to re screw the drive again

See if that fixes it

[stoic island]

Double check that it's fully inserted, where you can't see the golden contacts anymore

[lime adder]

Damn I can’t add a pic

[stoic island]

Can dm or wait until level 3

[lime adder]

I just sent it to u

[stoic island]

Looks okay from the picture but I'd take it out, insert at an angle, make sure it's fully in, and then screw it back in

[lime adder]

The little screw fell down into my case lol give me a few

[stoic island]

And that's why manufacturers have started to just use plastic clips instead of a screw on newer mobos lol

A very common problem

[lime adder]

I can’t find it lmao. Ima see if they packed any extras

They did

[stoic island]

You can usually tilt the case and listen for it rolling around

[snow dragon]

lol what if its trapped by a cable so it doesnt move

maybe need to do a lil shake

[stoic island]

Not hearing anything tells you that it's probably stuck somewhere small, like in the midst of cables or stick in the vrm heatsink and such

[lime adder]

Yea I got it

I re did the ssd

Still nothing. It shows green for a second then the little led turns off. Is that normal

Still no signal or response from the gpu

@stoic island

[stoic island]

Green doesn't stay on anymore?

[lime adder]

Nope. No colors stay on

[stoic island]

Does the PC stay on after the LEDs turn off, like fans and rgb stay on

[lime adder]

Yes

It does.

But the gpu doesn’t turn on. Like the rgb colors don’t turn on. Or the fans don’t spin

[stoic island]

Fan not spinning is fine since most GPUs now have a zero fan mode while at low temperatures

RGB is usually powered by the pcie slot when there are any

[lime adder]

No it doesn’t look like it

[stoic island]

You can reseat the GPU again if you'd like to test that, but since the debug LEDs cycle through and don't stay on anything, from the motherboard's perspective, everything including the GPU works, so I'd start looking at the GPU cable and the monitor again

[lime adder]

Ok

Now my power button won’t turn it off

[stoic island]

Debug LEDs aren't infallible but it's a solid thing to go off of

[stoic island]

Holding it down?

Generally need to hold it down to shut off, one press won't do it

[lime adder]

There we go. I usually could just press it

Should I try removing the cmos battery

[stoic island]

You can clear cmos with jumper or battery if you'd like

But since it's a new Mobo I doubt the problem is that the battery is dead

If you happen to have an extra battery of that type, you can try replacing it

[lime adder]

Ok

I might also try using the adapter that came with my gpu. Like using the pcie cables instead of the 600w pcie 1.5 cable

[stoic island]

Oh 12vhpwr, it can be finicky, you want to be very careful with plugging it in fully

[lime adder]

Gotcha. Yea I’ve noticed that it is a really tough cable to plug in

[stoic island]

Anyways stuff that you can try doing rn, in order of what I'd do:
Reseat the GPU, double check that there's no dust or anything on the contacts.
Double check the power cable, double check to make sure it's fully plugged in.
You can try using a different adapter for 12vhpwr if you'd like, but still double check that it's fully fully in.
Lastly, if the previous steps didn't help, clear cmos via battery method.

[lime adder]

Bet thanks dude. You’ve been a great help

[stoic island]

You're welcome

[lime adder]

Welp none of that worked.

So im lost. Could be dead gpu idk.

[stoic island]

I'd start looking at trying a different monitor and cable

[lime adder]

Yea I’m going to take it to a pc repair store tmrw and maybe I can get some better answers

[calm tinsel]

This is just not fitting, right?

B560m asrock mobo with a montech xr atx mid tower case

Parts picker showed it as compatible…

@earnest olive
@sullen spoke

@neon condor

[sullen spoke]

Might be easier if you take the screws out first

[calm tinsel]

The top ones don’t come out

They aren’t lining up like at all, and the panel isn’t either

[sullen spoke]

it looks like they are lining up but the io shield has to be all the way in, about flush with the metal of the case. I think because you left the screws in the mobo it's preventing the bottom half of the io shield seating down all the way and lining up with the standoffs

[calm tinsel]

@sullen spoke

There is a giant lug locking both in

I’ll grab a wrench

[sullen spoke]

huh, that looks like a standoff

[calm tinsel]

I thought they were meant to stay like that

[neon condor]

No.

[sullen spoke]

if the case doesn't have preinstalled ones normally you would screw in just the standoffs to the case, then place mobo inside case lining up all standoffs, then screw into the standoffs through the mobo

[calm tinsel]

I just took the standoffs off altogether

Seems to be the answer

Thx

[neon condor]

@calm tinsel
Put the bottom metal piece (standoff) into the case make sure it's tight with a pliers then take that screw out. Line the motherboard up with all of the holes THEN place the screws in and tighten down. (Snug not too tight) you don't want to gorilla it you will strip the standoff's out.

[calm tinsel]

I was confused cause my last case it was fitting with the standoff on somehow

I got it dw, I just took off the standoff

[neon condor]

Okay great, also you have to send a photo of the final build. It's mandatory

[calm tinsel]

Snug as a bug

Check out the broken gpu slot clip. I get to figure that out next.

I was told to maybe just use the other slot?

[neon condor]

In a rug. Without a tug? Want a hug? Hold the plug, where's my jug.... OHHHH

https://tenor.com/view/burned-food-wtf-gif-22978287

[calm tinsel]

That’s sick brother

Bars

[languid nimbus]

Alright Dr seuss

[calm tinsel]

I have never been able to set up the case fans properly

Cause I can never find the right slots for them

[sullen spoke]

you could potentially use the top slot without the slot lock. though im not sure how much I recommend it. need to make sure it won't come loose

if not then yes you can use the bottom slot but that one is not reinforced so heavier gpus might be a slight issue over time

[calm tinsel]

I got this bugger to start with

[calm tinsel]

I bought a gpu holder…whatever it’s called, coming Monday

Support bracket

[neon condor]

Yes you can use the lower slot but be careful it may be an 8X and not a 16X. If that's the case not a big deal the GPU will still work as long as you're not running like a 4090 or something crazy you probably won't use up all your bandwidth anyways.

[calm tinsel]

This mess for the fans

[neon condor]

I've used bottom slots before and haven't had problems. But if you can support the GPU with that bracket then yeah use the top slot.

[calm tinsel]

It’s a beast

7900xt

[neon condor]

Top slot with GPU support bracket.

Just make sure it's all the way in the slot before you turn it on and give it a small tug make sure the bracket is holding.

If some of the pins are out of the slots depending what pins are out there's a chance you short the GPU out so make sure it's all the way in.

[calm tinsel]

Geeze

Why is everything so high risk with these machines?

They should start making gpu slots a lot more secure. Especially these cheap clips.

[neon condor]

Because each pin does something and if you cross one of the pins with voltage it could go "POP" and that's a wrap for that GPU.

[calm tinsel]

Question

Why does a tower case have an “hd audio” cable?

Is it pretty common for mobos to not have slots for all the case cables?

Plugged this one in…just a fancy usb slot?

[neon condor]

That is a USB connector for the high speed USB the black one is normal USB.

[calm tinsel]

These are all fan cables, right? They all plug into each other

[neon condor]

Looks fine. Long as one has power from the mobo before you split it.

[calm tinsel]

I’m trying to find the one that goes into the mobo

Any ideas?

This is the last thing I need

And no one seems to know which is odd

I just put it into cha_fan

But the attached piece just dangles

@sullen spoke
@neon condor

This is the last thing I promise

[torn current]

Wait, what is it for?

[torn current]

Or connected to

[calm tinsel]

It’s just the fan cables

@torn current

Plus tower lights

I don’t think my mobo has the slot for the lights

[neon condor]

The way you have it is correct.

[weary galleon]

The extra dangling one is for daisy chaining more fans

[polar void]

Hide it

[calm tinsel]

But do I need to chain these to the other pin ports for all fans to work?

[polar void]

Only the other fans

[snow dragon]

Its just for better cable management

[calm tinsel]

Yeah there’s 3

3 fans

[snow dragon]

Instead of using a cable for each fan you just connect one to the other

So then instead of using 3 cables you would be using two for 3 fans

[polar void]

One fan can plug into the motherboard if all others chain to it

[calm tinsel]

Yeah I think that’s what I did

[snow dragon]

I assume its two front one rear

Oh

I guess three front one rear

[calm tinsel]

I have to wait till monday for my psu to arrive for testing

[polar void]

Nice come back here at then

[calm tinsel]

But right now it’s just 1 plugged in

[neon condor]

https://tenor.com/view/електрошок-воскреситьмашину-electric-shock-resurrect-the-car-ouch-gif-15257685

[modest iron]

hello, i have a 10k saudi riyal budget any good builds ? amazon

[fallen sphinx]

i would heavily suggest buying off newegg not amazon

for sa

https://sa.pcpartpicker.com/list/fkbQsp this is what id say to get

[versed current]

can somone make me a 1000$ pc build?

im building for a freind

im willing to buy off amzon and new egg

[low path]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xmMTgn how’s this list budget under 2k

[versed current]

Scratch that

How’s this for under 1,200 and if there’s anything wrong let me know I’m trying to to keep it kind of cheap while keeping it looking good with good performance https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FxxqMC

[weary galleon]

Terrible cooler for the price

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MhLgjn

Better ram, better cooler, 2x the storage

Could get an RGB thermalright cooler for a few bucks more

Or a 360mm thermalright aio for a bit more

[versed current]

My friend is set on an lcd screen

[weary galleon]

Thermalright has those

[versed current]

And they probably only need 1 tb

Is that the only changes you’d make though?

Other wise everything is compatible and will be easy

[versed current]

So just buy it separately

[weary galleon]

No like they make aios with an LCD display

[versed current]

Oh do you mind adding one

Would u say it’s a good build for rdr 2 and like modded mc with chasers

[weary galleon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hpXV3C/thermalright-frozen-warframe-pro-7084-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-fw-pro-360-black

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/b8MXsY/thermalright-core-vision-argb-7237-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-core-vision-360-black

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sxP8TW/thermalright-frozen-warframe-argb-7084-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-warframe-360-black-argb

[versed current]

Shaders

[versed current]

Is it good to have 4 out fans and 3 in?

[weary galleon]

Ideally you want more intake than exhaust; positive pressure helps prevent dust buildup