building-and-recc-chat

[snow dragon]

My old prime did not have one

[snow dragon]

Interesting

The metal panels are no longer smooth

I think they are lighter too

Maybe

Fingerprint magnet tho

Oh you can already see the prints on the fist picture

[lyric thistle]

My nr200 dusty

I have one AIO p14 pulling in from the side

There's no room for the second P14

[plucky timber]

Oh did I mix it up with the Q300L?

I know one of them has pretty bad airflow

[lyric thistle]

nr200 is airflow on every side but the front :3

[plucky timber]

https://youtu.be/F3n80GxU-Zs?si=O4p67xbJUd0tww56

Yeah the Qx00L cases are the ones with crap airflow

[snow dragon]

[analog hearth]

Should I put intakes at the top? Theoretically for airflow on the VRMs. Weird config but I thought I'd ask

[snow dragon]

Since you have the gpu vertical it would be the best to have bottom + rear intake and top exhaust

[analog hearth]

Bottom intakes are tight 🫠

[lyric thistle]

I think my exhaust goes up

because psu

[grave crescent]

Weird question

Have you guys ever heard of a pc shutting down sometimes when the AC kicks on?

[lyric thistle]

power load is probably screwed

[grave crescent]

I’m wondering if that killed my other gpu because I switched them and it ran fine until around 9 when I was playing csgo and the ac kicked on it just shut off completely

And before on occasion it would make my monitor blank for maybe 3 seconds

Figure I’ll just grab a UPS and hope that works

[stoic island]

It could be the AC kicking on causing a load that drops the voltage to a point where uvp protections on the PSU kicks in

UPS would help in a case like that

[lyric thistle]

cooked

[severe hull]

Morning all , want to get a SSD for my dads pc . He’s running hDD and want to speed it up . He does not have an m2 slot . Is this a decent one . Also is it difficult to move the operating system over ?

[plucky timber]

Price?

These ssds are cheaper

I'd say the SP A55 is solid

[analog hearth]

Maybe I’m crazy

(Sorry for carpet)

[analog hearth]

Reason why PSU intake faces the inside of the PC

I have extra fans. I should just experiment lol

[severe hull]

Almost the same 49.99 ! And ships with prime

[stoic island]

QLC is pretty slow, just keep that in mind

[severe lava]

My pc randomly died while running wouldn’t display gpu no power and cpu and dram light were on messed around with ram sticks in each slot nothing swapped the mobo cuz i got tired of waiting now the dram light stays on dram light will blink off as it’s off the cpu light comes on and still no gpu power

[lyric scarab]

Try resitting the gpu in its slot and you could attempt to remove the CMOS for about 3-5 minutes and place it back on the board.

[severe lava]

Mobo is fresh outa the box and gpu been doing this since before the mobo swap too

[lyric scarab]

That means something is wrong with your GPU seeing that its consistent

[snow dragon]

Psu doesn’t intake from there

It intakes from where the fan is

And you can have 25s on the bottom

I would still say bottom in top out

Because the top intake could fight the gpu and psu exhaust

[analog hearth]

That’s where the fan is lol

[snow dragon]

Well there is still a small gap if you had the psu facing in our out in this scenario, I would still have it face towards the side panel anyway because there is still some kind of gap for cooler air to come in

[snow dragon]

Nah the top is the exhaust

[analog hearth]

Oh gotcha

[snow dragon]

And it seems that if you had bottom intake the fans would also be closer to the cpu cooler

The motherboard is lower because of the vertical mount

[severe lava]

Just put brand new ram sticks in and same bs

Anyone have any ideas

[severe hull]

Ahhh so I just looked this up and had no idea about that ! Thank you so get SLC correct ?

[stoic island]

For consumers, TLC is the best fit

[stoic island]

faster than QLC, still affordable and at high capacities

[stoic island]

most modern consumer SSDs use a pSLC cache while the storage is natively TLC

the pSLC cache gives you much better burst performance

[south cliff]

What 100-200 dollar used gpu is the best ptp as of right now I was looking at some rx5700xt

[manic cloak]

you could probably find a 3060/6600/6650xt, maybe a 4060 on your local facebook

[south cliff]

Good pickup? CPU is 12900kf he said 175 with cpu

[snow dragon]

Yeah I think so

Just make sure the socket is good

You have a 7800x3d tho so no point of swapping to it unless you gonna use that in another system

[south cliff]

Resell 😀

And or I could sell it to one of my friends that has a 9600k

[snow dragon]

[south cliff]

I might actually thinking of putting it in a build then selling it what gpu would be a good pair with the cpu you think that is a little more on the cheaper side like 200-250

[snow dragon]

6700 xt if you can get one for that cheap

There is one on the jawa website for 260

[south cliff]

If I could get a 3080 for 300 should I go for that?

[snow dragon]

Probably

Has less vram but doesn’t matter for older games

Plus you can use dlss 4 as a cope

[south cliff]

Well I’m not gonna use this pc probably gonna sell it so I will stick to the 6700xt I remember when I had mine it was a absolute beast until my cat puked on top of my computer and it seeped through my radiator at the time and it got directly on the pcb

Sad times

But now I’m thinking on how I’m gonna cool this 12900kf

[snow dragon]

Well the 3080 is faster and whoever will use it is probably gonna use dlss

If you find one at a good price

Get it

[south cliff]

I might just use the same cooler I have on my 7800x3d

[snow dragon]

There are some cheap thermalright aio coolers for 45

[south cliff]

Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO

I use this one right now

It does wonders

Or should I go with the aio?

It does make the pc look nicer

[snow dragon]

I don’t understand how this is ~55
https://a.co/d/a1Z49vi

[south cliff]

Yeah I was just looking at this one https://a.co/d/8wpFG6Z

I guess I would go with the aio as most people look for looks not performance

[snow dragon]

Well it would be more performant as well

the look helps resell value

[south cliff]

A whole build would cost me 826

Is it worth?

[polar void]

Cause Thermalright is the best brand

Great prices and performance

[mystic dune]

let me post build on social media pages plsss

[polar void]

Huh

[mystic dune]

check dm

[fickle bolt]

Bros gettin his build on newegg social media🔥

I wish mine was worthy of the honor

[shut rampart]

I broke my oled monitor, I dont know if I should go with 1440p or 4k or just not a oled at-all if I keep on breaking them, I have a 9800x3d and a 7900xt and I would like it to be under 27 inch

[manic cloak]

how did you break it?

[shut rampart]

I tap it with a zipper on a pouch, and it now has a circle of dead pixel in the lower left area

[gaunt plume]

Hello all! Im new to the PC world and I wanna build my own first set up. Problem is i dont know where to start. I will use it for heavy gaming, twitch streaming, and content creating.

[fallen sphinx]

hey! whats your budget, country, and define heavy

[gaunt plume]

Well id have to buy a piece a week with each check because i live check to check so saving up is difficult. Im in the US. Like daily gaming.

[fallen sphinx]

well... id try saving up to a set amount

what games would you be playing

[gaunt plume]

GTA, Farming sim, Minecraft, Supremacy, COD, and other games. I def want a good storage size. I had a 1tb for my xbox

[fallen sphinx]

so not super demanding games

[fallen sphinx]

the storage part is easy, how much do you think you could reasonably save?

[gaunt plume]

Its hard to say. Im a seasonal union worker.

[fallen sphinx]

hmmm... would smth like 1k sound sorta reasonable?

[gaunt plume]

It would take me a long while to get.

I was gonna get one from Best Buy cuz i do got a credit card through them. @fallen sphinx

[fallen sphinx]

oh a prebuilt?

[gaunt plume]

Well maybe the parts to build one.

[fallen sphinx]

they got really bad prices on almost anything

[fallen sphinx]

you could... maybe get a gpu from them?

[gaunt plume]

My only issue with a pre built is it wont do what i want it to. @fallen sphinx

[fallen sphinx]

yeah thats fine, i dont recomend prebuilts either way

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-swift-amd-radeon-rx-9060xt-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-5-0-gaming-graphics-card-black/6632946.p?skuId=6632946
is this in stock at the store near you?

and what price would it be

[gaunt plume]

I could to try to save up but itll take a long while. Thats why i was fixing to buy a piece each week with a check.

[fallen sphinx]

thatll work too

[gaunt plume]

My struggle is i dont know what to buy first, how i can find out what components fit what. Im not a computer tech.

[fallen sphinx]

i can send you a list with all the parts

[gaunt plume]

That could help. My buddy recommends i buy stuff from New Egg which im down to do. That part i couldnt tell if its at my store or not.

[fallen sphinx]

newegg/amazon would be the best to buy from

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gqb3XR
heres what i made

[gaunt plume]

Could I always update parts in the future for better performance or would i have to buy a whole other kit

@fallen sphinx

[fallen sphinx]

yeah you def can

cpu can be upgraded a lot, that board can support the current best gaming cpu, and the gpu is as easy as buying a new one and selling the old one. the psu is good enough for most cards, maybe not the 5090 type stuff but those are scams anyway

[gaunt plume]

Okay

[fallen sphinx]

wait do you need a monitor/keyboard/mouse

[gaunt plume]

Yes

[fallen sphinx]

do you want 1080p or 1440p monitor

[gaunt plume]

I guess the 1440p would be better?

[fallen sphinx]

alr

[gaunt plume]

I mean idk what do they go for?

[fallen sphinx]

140$ for a 1440p and 100$ for a 1080p

id go for 1440p

[gaunt plume]

ya ok

im coming from console, Ive never played keyboard and mouse, i have heard that xbox controllers can be used, is that true?

[fallen sphinx]

they can, you just need to have a keyboard and mouse for non gaming

and tbh i like keyboard and mouse better for gaming

[gaunt plume]

Okay. Ive been on console my whole life so switching up is gonna be interesting

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dzFjQd here

[fallen sphinx]

wait you said youre gonna be streaming

[gaunt plume]

Yes Twitch streaming, gaming daily, playing multiplayer online

[fallen sphinx]

ok id get a cheap second monitor

[gaunt plume]

Could I use a small tv (HDMI) and monitor together?

[fallen sphinx]

yeah as long as you got desk space

also you might need a mic

[gaunt plume]

I got a big desk. I also got a mic its a Blue Yeti

[fallen sphinx]

oh shoot nice i was thinking about getting that one

i think my dad has that one too

[gaunt plume]

Ya i bought it thinking i could use it for console. Bur couldn't its just sitting in my closet gathering dust

[fallen sphinx]

well thats good

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mP8GMC
heres the full list

you could save money with like worse cpu and worse gpu, but if youre just gonna buy it over time id recommend this as long as you can still live lmao

[gaunt plume]

@fallen sphinx this is a great set up for live streaming games? Ill buy a camera another time

[fallen sphinx]

oh yeah fs

[gaunt plume]

Great. Thanks for helping me. I dont need something thats top of the line. Just something great to get me started

[snow dragon]

Goes hard

[fallen sphinx]

yeah thisll be great for years to come, and when its time to upgrade it can upgrade to a MUCH better pc

[gaunt plume]

Right on im excited

[fallen sphinx]

just be warned, and ive had this happen to me, buying the parts over a long time WILL make it feel less exciting

[snow dragon]

I would swap out the board

Asrock bios revisions are still sussy

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nG2PDj

that ssd is REALLY good + has dram cache for only 20$ more than the other one, can help with video editing which it sounds like you may do

[snow dragon]

Cloud approved

[gaunt plume]

@fallen sphinx ok could i get 2 of the ASRocker monitors?

[fallen sphinx]

you could? but clarity on second monitor doesnt matter, its only for like yt or discord or twitch chat

[gaunt plume]

Ok i gotcha.

[gaunt plume]

@fallen sphinx dont i gotta have a operating system?

[fallen sphinx]

oh yeah

so windows is only like 6$

unless you buy legit, which i heavily recommend to not

[gaunt plume]

So i dont buy one from the part picker?

[fallen sphinx]

no

thats overpriced

[gaunt plume]

Just get it from like a store?

@fallen sphinx

[fallen sphinx]

uh

dms

[snow dragon]

[plucky timber]

Hold up

Gonna optimize it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zsg9Lc

Shaved $3 off for a better motherboard

[snow dragon]

Asrock revisions are still sussy

[plucky timber]

It's a 9600X

[snow dragon]

A guy had an a620 kill his 7600x

[plucky timber]

🤨

[snow dragon]

Its real

[plucky timber]

What's the sample size on that

[snow dragon]

Although for some reason there seems to be less deaths with b650 boards

[plucky timber]

So far we only have consistent data on 9800X3D failures

9800X3D is the only CPU confirmed to be consistently dying on asrock

I'd argue you shouldn't put a 7600x in any a620 anyways

Because of the crappy vrms

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qgm9Lc

Ssd revision

Down to $1386.55

I'd argue the 850w isn't necessary but like

It's so cheap there's no point penny pinching

[manic cloak]

@gaunt plume Did anyone ask if you live near a microcenter?

[gaunt plume]

No

[manic cloak]

do you live near one by chance?

alot of deals there 24/7, can save you ALOT

[gaunt plume]

Idk what is a microcenter?

[plucky timber]

@gaunt plume slightly edited list

[manic cloak]

imagine a store for pc building

[plucky timber]

Basically just optimized it a bit

[manic cloak]

except this - don't listen to their recommendations, they're still salesman

[plucky timber]

For better price/performance

[plucky timber]

Yeah just buy their parts

[manic cloak]

if they tell you to buy a noctua cooler or some random part, they may be right

but it's not right for 80-100$

[plucky timber]

They're gonna throw corsair in an nzxt case

[manic cloak]

or recommend you to keep it cool with all lian li

and get a lian li cooler, lian li fans, etc

just rule 1. Don't listen to the salemans

[plucky timber]

$10 difference here, $10 difference there

Adds up to a couple hundred dollars for absolutely no performance gain

[snow dragon]

If I was sales at mc they would put me into some improvement program because I would be tryng to save people money

[plucky timber]

I'd be a terrible salesman

[gaunt plume]

@manic cloak ya i got one in my city

[manic cloak]

oh which one?

[plucky timber]

I'd be good running the company because I'd undercut the hell out of the competition

With price/perf

[manic cloak]

putting morals aside to do that stuff

[plucky timber]

Actually now I think about it

The competition can just throw in crap psus

Could always get on GN's good side

Free promotion

[manic cloak]

do you know which one?

it'll show us availability

[gaunt plume]

Like what store?

[manic cloak]

Well there's more than 1 microcenter. Which city microcenter is it? Also what's your thoughts on refurbished and open box?

Cause each one has a different amount of items available

[gaunt plume]

Brentwood, Missouri

I never buy refurbished stuff.

[fallen sphinx]

asrock just aint it rn

[manic cloak]

What about open box? 95% of the time it's just a returned item & is tested by microcenter on whether it works or not, otherwise they sell it at a cheaper price.

[fallen sphinx]

also does the ssd you put have dram and fast speeds?

[gaunt plume]

Ehh idk.

[fallen sphinx]

microcenter is kinda.. eh on the lower end deals

[manic cloak]

that's your assumption on deals

and that's what most people see

the bundles

I see the open box and refurbished sales they have

[fallen sphinx]

320$ for a 9600x + 16gb ram

270 if you can live with an ASUS prime... but i wouldnt

[manic cloak]

well it's upto the microcenter but mine is able to swap out the board as long as it's same price, cheaper, or pay the difference..

[fallen sphinx]

if they can do that id do that

and buy an extra 16gb stick of ram

[manic cloak]

it's alot of work though for that

if it was one item like the motherboard then ya that's fine

like I could have an atx case but don't want a microatx

[fallen sphinx]

no

i mean literally buy an extra 16gb ram stick

seperate

[manic cloak]

that's like $50 though

[fallen sphinx]

Well do you only want 1x16????

😭

[manic cloak]

you might aswell ask them to "swap it" and pay the difference

which is going to be like $35 instead

Plus you would remove the possibility of separate batch ram

[fallen sphinx]

just get the 7700x bundle

[plucky timber]

If you swap put the board it'd be another $10 cheaper so

[fallen sphinx]

its gonna end up being the same cost

[manic cloak]

microcenter accepts returned ram btw, and doesn't open box or refurb it either.

Either they send it back or call it new which would be messed up

[gaunt plume]

@manic cloak so why do i need to know about this store?

[fallen sphinx]

when i returned my 9700x bundle they marked it with what was broken and put it on a clearance shelf

[plucky timber]

What exactly is the problem with asrock aside from the 9800X3D failures anyways?

[manic cloak]

basically they're the store for PC parts

[gaunt plume]

Right on

[manic cloak]

usually the board

[manic cloak]

I mean would it be better for him to have a 7600x3d or a 7700xx

50$ difference

[plucky timber]

Eh

Is he even going to benefit from 3D V-cache that much

Compared to having more cores

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VjkYBq

$1376 with the msi

The vrms were actually better than I thought on this board

2x6+2+1 on a $129 board

Might even be able to put an X3D on this thing

[manic cloak]

the 3d cache would more than help out for minecraft

[plucky timber]

Although I wouldn't push it

[plucky timber]

Eh

What is the use case exactly

What is the price difference

[manic cloak]

it's cheap case but no fans

[plucky timber]

We have $1376 for the pc + peripherals here

Airflow?

[manic cloak]

I wouldn't want to install fans on my first build

[plucky timber]

Show the machine

[manic cloak]

would be headache

[plucky timber]

Oh really that case has no fans?

My bad

[manic cloak]

this case would need fans

yes

3 but no exhaust, 6 to be safe

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Rxwnp

Back to $1381

[manic cloak]

@gaunt plume were you looking for a big or small case btw?

like I know you had an xbox, but we need to know if you got desk space.

[gaunt plume]

I can send you a pic

[plucky timber]

I feel like you can't get much cheaper than this without gimping out on parts

Well there's the psu

[manic cloak]

go ahead

[manic cloak]

he doesn't want to buy refurb or open box sadlyt

[plucky timber]

But that's penny pinching for no reason

[plucky timber]

I meant that he can go down to a 650w

But why do that for $10

[manic cloak]

nah

[plucky timber]

Compared to the upgrade potential

With the 850w

[manic cloak]

he could get the corsair refurb 750e for 69.99

[snow dragon]

See thats what I dont like about psus

[plucky timber]

To be fair

I'd go brand new for the psu too

[snow dragon]

Almost like you get upsold to get the better one because of better value

[plucky timber]

Plus this thing is $89

Great find by @fallen sphinx

Actually a really solid psu too

[gaunt plume]

Its 59 1/2 long by 29 1/2 wide

[plucky timber]

Floor

[manic cloak]

you'd have to rearrange your whole desk buy ya we'll be able to put a big case on there

[snow dragon]

I dont think a big case is going there

[gaunt plume]

I already plan to move my tv

[plucky timber]

If you replace the tv

Yeah

You can fit most of it

With the monitor arm you'd have plenty of space

[manic cloak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fc88TW/montech-xr-atx-mid-tower-case-xr-b
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2MwmP6/montech-air-903-max-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-max-b I mean which case would you prefer? @gaunt plume

https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?Ntk=all&sortby=match&N=4294964318&myStore=true

Or you can scroll through this list and see - Just make sure to set it to Brentwood from Shipping only

[plucky timber]

Are the cases cheaper at MC?

[manic cloak]

the XR is.

[plucky timber]

how much is it?

[manic cloak]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/690228/montech-xr-wood-atx-mid-tower-computer-case-black

69.99 vs 75 lol

they also have the XR wood..

[plucky timber]

I guess

can you shave money off other parts tho

feels like there's not much cost savings here

It's mostly aesthetic changes

[manic cloak]

I'm just waiting till 12am

every 15 mins they update the website listings, 12am it's like black friday opening

[gaunt plume]

I like the XR ATX Mid Tower. I like the clear glass

@manic cloak

[manic cloak]

👍

[manic cloak]

did you want RGB btw or no?

[gaunt plume]

Ya i like the lights.

[shut rampart]

c5 or c8 fron antec

[mystic needle]

hi does anyone know a good budget for a pc that can get me at least 120fps on AAA games? i was thinking of starting with $1200 and it's gonna be used to stream as well + micro-atx build

[manic cloak]

@gaunt plume https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9tGQnp

Just a few things with this list: Your Microcenter is "out" of the 7/9600x bundle. It's all because that crappy motherboard that comes with the bundle is out, so there's a big chance that you can simply swap it out for another one. This is if you ever go: Try for the B650-E Tuf Gaming Wifi and try going for the open box version if allowed, which is around $88, they do test it btw and make sure nothing is broken. If they don't charge you extra, great now with the RAM (it's a single stick called the X5) try getting it swapped out for the one on the list and ask if the difference can be paid due to the cheaper motherboard, if not make sure they charge you only 41.99 (the 2x16 is91.99, subtracted by the 1x16 which is $50)

The case is 69.99 at microcenter/cheaper compared to online, the graphics card you will have to price match. GET THE 16gb model, not the 8gb. The LG monitor you can pick up at microcenter for same price.

[gaunt plume]

Ok

[gaunt plume]

@manic cloak imma stick with my original list only cuz i really don't trust refurbished or pre-owned, idgaf what the guarantee is for shit to work. Thats just me. I been screwed over on similar situations for welding machines and other industrial equipment.

[gaunt plume]

@manic cloak could I update the graphics card on this to the 16gb? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nG2PDj

[manic cloak]

it already is

[gaunt plume]

Ah ok.

[shut rampart]

hmm

does aoc has good support

[gaunt plume]

@manic cloak what would happen if i put 4 of those DDR5-6000 CL30 memory into the MSI Pro B650-s wifi atx am5 motherboard?

[manic cloak]

You don’t need 64gb of ram, plus you’ll have really slow ram.

32gb is more than enough

[gaunt plume]

Just a curious question

[snow dragon]

Current ryzen memory controllers are not fast and having 4 sticks adds extra load onto it, so you wont be able to maintain your current speeds if you have more sticks

[gaunt plume]

That Ryzen 6core processor pretty powerful to run online multiplayer games while streaming?

[snow dragon]

You'll be using your gpu encoder for that

But yeah it can encode video just fine

Compared to my 5600, the 9600x is like 55% faster in multicore workloads

I can record av1, which is really demanding and have no problems

But I still recommend you use your gpu for streaming since it has a dedicated video encoder

And something good about the 9060 xt

Or any 9000 card

They improved h264 encoding on it by a lot, so you should have pretty good quality as well

[gaunt plume]

Im being forced by all my friends to come to PC and nothing you said made any sense lol. Im a traffic technician. Tryna learn computers

[snow dragon]

All good

Basically the gpu has a part of it that is dedicated to encoding video, so its better to use the gpu for streaming

[gaunt plume]

Okay

[snow dragon]

And just that the card you are getting has much better quality for all kinds of video

[gaunt plume]

Ya ill be Twitch streaming and making content for Instagram

[snow dragon]

[gaunt plume]

What about upping the processor to a Ryzen 7 9800X3D

@snow dragon

From the Ryzen 5 9600 3.9 GHz 6-core

@manic cloak

[snow dragon]

Nah

9600x is good enough

9800x3d is over twice the price

[gaunt plume]

@snow dragon would it cause issues if i did?

[snow dragon]

Nah nothing bad would happen its just that you wont get the whole $480 of performance out of it, in my opinion at least

Your gpu will be doing the heavy lifting for streaming. The cpu still handles some work for streaming but its not that much

[gaunt plume]

What runs the online gaming?

[snow dragon]

Assuming you have it set up to where the gpu does the encoding

[snow dragon]

Both the cpu and gpu

But mostly the gpu

[gaunt plume]

With the list i have, is the GPU gonna do the encoding?

[snow dragon]

If you set it up to do so, yeah

Any gpu can do it, you just have to set up obs to use it

Plus

With the games you'll be playing, I think you have a very very powerful system

[gaunt plume]

Sweet

[plucky timber]

btw https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Rxwnp

this is basically the same list but $10 cheaper

[fallen sphinx]

What ssd it that

[plucky timber]

hynix

has dram

[fallen sphinx]

Is it better than the t500 though

[fallen sphinx]

Is the t500 not better

[plucky timber]

wait

the hell

is it the same price/

[fallen sphinx]

Yes

[plucky timber]

wtf

could've sworn it was cheaper a second ago

oh well

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yYtZdb

so basically

only difference is the cooler

$8 cheaper

sigh

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4kZN74

I guess there's the keyboard

[gaunt plume]

Im good with my list. I will definitely be upgrading in the future though

[carmine hawk]

Hey guys

Just looking to see the performance on laptops with only a 12700h and how it is on battery

Laptop has a 50wh battery

General note taking non gaming

[snow dragon]

If thats the case then I would recommend getting a U sku

This isnt a fair comparison but my laptop has a P sku and it lasts like 2 hours of usage lmfao

[carmine hawk]

Is the performance AWFUL? Coming from a 13650hx 4060 laptop that lasts like 3hrs with its gpu off and low power settings

[weary galleon]

If you want battery life, go for for Ryzen AI 300 series, Intel Core Ultra, or Snapdragon X

or a macbook

[gaunt plume]

what everyones opinion on the Acer brand of monitors?

[crimson zinc]

Lotta solid budget options

[weary galleon]

use rtings.com

[carmine hawk]

This specifically is $500 cad.. insane deal

[gaunt plume]

@fallen sphinx does all the parts come with the wires?

[fallen sphinx]

yup

[smoky dew]

Would anyone be willing to help me out with selecting new pc parts?

Im just trying to upgrade a few things, Im hoping to keep my gpu, ram, and storage, I just need a new psu, case, mobo, cooler, and fans

[plucky timber]

Budget? Current specs?

[smoky dew]

mmm preferably less than $600 usd

Currently looking to retain:

4060 Ti 8gb
32 GB Corsair Vengeance ram
500 GB ssd and 1tb HDD (cannot remember brands)

[plucky timber]

Complete specs please

[smoky dew]

yes one sec

[smoky dew]

and cpu*

ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB Twin Edge DLSS 3

Intel i7 10700f

Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200mhz 8x4

EVGA 600w 80+ Gold psu

Asrock b460m pro4/ac mobo

1 Tb unknown HDD and 500 gb unknown ssd

@plucky timber is that good?

[plucky timber]

I mean

the ram is atrocious

but since you already have it

no point in replacing it if it's stable at xmp

[smoky dew]

Yes I agree lol, it was a prebuilt I bought 4 years ago for my birthday

[plucky timber]

no point upgrading the motherboard

since it's a locked cpu anyways

[smoky dew]

thats why im looking to upgrade both, unless that doesn’t make sense to do

[plucky timber]

I need more details on the case

and the power supply

[smoky dew]

CyberPowerPC NR640 is the case

[plucky timber]

that

looks like it has airflow

it's got a mesh front correct?

[smoky dew]

Apparently the psu is an “GD” model, “evga 600w GD 80+ gold”

[smoky dew]

Yes

[plucky timber]

case should be alright then

psu is passable

is it the 2019 R1/V1 model by any chance?

[smoky dew]

Most likely considering when I bought it

Yes it’s v1

[plucky timber]

unfortunate

that's actually the worst model out of the bunch

It's not a bomb

just a bit unfortunate

[smoky dew]

Good thing, it would be a very slowly ticking bomb considering 4 years of usage lol

[plucky timber]

it's just incredibly mediocre

considering the other GDs out there

[smoky dew]

so, are you more or less saying I shouldn’t be looking to do a refresh of my parts?

[plucky timber]

depends

do you need an upgrade?

for anything specific?

[smoky dew]

not per say need but I would appreciate better performance

and this is kinda a non issue but I’d like a better looking case, you know?

Plus it’s my birthday (again) lol I have money to burn

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sY7f9C
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fpfht3
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TQ4CPJ
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8WpbzP

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/66M6VF

here's a couple cpu upgrade options

you'd notice that most of them have ddr5

These are decently priced options that offer a decent performance increase

except for the 7800X3D

that goes overbudget but it's a 7800X3D so 🤷‍♂️

what do you have in mind for case swap?

any particular style you would prefer? @smoky dew

[smoky dew]

9600x might be prime choice for me just because it doesn’t take 3 years
(More than a week and a half) to arrive so I’ll honestly go with that

[smoky dew]

Something open, like those nzxt cases I see everyone drool over but it doesn’t have to be them

[plucky timber]

so

no airflow hotboxes?

[smoky dew]

lel

[plucky timber]

something like this I assume

[smoky dew]

yes

Assuming it does have good airflow

I trust your judgment goat

[plucky timber]

it's not an nzxt case so

yes

[smoky dew]

Is the month x3 mesh one good? I saw some stuff about that one

[plucky timber]

what about this?

it's slightly cheaper

[plucky timber]

It's cheaper than the XR

[smoky dew]

Oh lol

[plucky timber]

so that's a yes then

[smoky dew]

Yes

[plucky timber]

are you going to upgrade this in the future?

[smoky dew]

if I do it won’t be for another like 2 - 4 years and significantly more money will be spent

But unlikely

[plucky timber]

you can probably just plop in a 9800X3D

when the price does come down

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/npCyrM

[smoky dew]

yeah that price is lowkey cooked lol I’ll ill def wait

So psu and mobo should be good to just transfer then?

[plucky timber]

uh no

you'll need to buy a new motherboard

[smoky dew]

yeah I was making sure lmao

idk why I thought you were finished

what do you rec?

[plucky timber]

this

alternatively you can keep the original case

[smoky dew]

Cart’s looking at $517 with everything arriving tomorrow

I love you goat 🫡

[plucky timber]

this is the case right?

[smoky dew]

Yes

[plucky timber]

honestly I'd just keep it

it's a decent enough case

[smoky dew]

Actually let me double check

[plucky timber]

not the best thing in the world

but it's better than an nzxt case

[smoky dew]

No actually

I’d send a picture but I can’t

[plucky timber]

right

eh

case upgrade doesn't hurt

[smoky dew]

https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/store/item/cs-454-109

Apparently this

[plucky timber]

yeah that's practically the same thing

[smoky dew]

Real

[plucky timber]

It has airflow

👍

I'd just keep it honestly

[smoky dew]

Am I good to go then?

and I’ve never specifically “built” a pc before so are there any tools I should buy as well

[plucky timber]

screwdriver

[smoky dew]

or maybe an anti static arm band from the verge lol

funniest video

but anyway

[plucky timber]

I haven't heard that joke in four years

damn

2020 throwback

good old days

[smoky dew]

I wonder what happened to that company lol

[plucky timber]

they make slop articles

[smoky dew]

Good thing I already have

[plucky timber]

Building the pc is the easy part believe it or not

Parts selection is actually harder

[smoky dew]

Should I slide all of my new parts over my carpet as well

more static = more power

[plucky timber]

🤨

I assume that is sarcastic

[smoky dew]

yes lmao I’m not that stupid

But thank you thank you

[plucky timber]

np

[smoky dew]

Also I feel like this is stupid question but will my windows transfer over since I’m keeping the same hdd? Or will it have issues since new cpu and mobo? @plucky timber

[plucky timber]

It might be fine

it might not

Windows might decide "screw you" and self destruct in half a year

It's recommended to do a fresh install with significant hardware changes

However it's certainly possible to run an existing install without any significant issues

[plain cobalt]

DDR4 is hiking, get your last upgrade when it still cheap

[fallen sphinx]

thats what i did

[gaunt plume]

@fallen sphinx that MSI Pro B650-s Wifi motherboard, how would I connect 2 monitors to it? 2 HDMI cords?

[fallen sphinx]

you dont connect to the motherboard

[gaunt plume]

Well how could i hook up 2 monitors opposed to 1

[fallen sphinx]

you use 2 cords in the gpu instead of 1

[gaunt plume]

HDMI?

[fallen sphinx]

hdmi doesnt get 2 slots on gpus

id just use displayport

[gaunt plume]

hmm ok, I got HDMIs laying all over the house, I think I might need to buy display port cables

[fallen sphinx]

monitors come with them

[smoky dew]

If any goats are available I request assistance

[crimson zinc]

Wassup

[smoky dew]

About to build my pc im lowkey pooping myself

I’m doing an intel to amd swap, kept my ssd and hdd and psu and gpu

New everything else

Is there a recommended pc build video?

[crimson zinc]

Linus has a pretty good one from 2024.

[fierce heath]

Should I change anything about this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MnYdPJ

[crimson zinc]

@fierce heath there you go

[fierce heath]

I sent the wrong build it was meant to be this one https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zMBq8Q mb

[crimson zinc]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TQTMQd

Fixed

[fierce heath]

Thank you so is that good

[crimson zinc]

Yep
Cheaper and nearly identical storage, and a cheaper and nearly identical performance cpu cooler

[fierce heath]

Okay thank you I was going to get the more expensive cooler as it the same brand with case and fans

[crimson zinc]

That doesn’t matter lmao

[fierce heath]

Wouldn’t I need different software’s

[crimson zinc]

Most fans can be controlled by one software

Nope

[fierce heath]

Oh

Can you find one that doesn’t look that ugly

I don’t like the middle bit

[crimson zinc]

I have thermalright cpu fan and Corsair case fans

Sure

[fierce heath]

Thank you so much

[fierce heath]

Ooo

[crimson zinc]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/M7kfcx

How’s that? I can do another if you want

[fierce heath]

I still don’t like the middle part and it’s white

[crimson zinc]

So a black, 3 fan AIO?
Just so I can confirm what you’re looking for.

[fierce heath]

Is a aio the cooler?

[crimson zinc]

Yes. The cpu cooler.

Are you building your first PC?

[fierce heath]

Yeah but I want the aio rbg or smt

[fierce heath]

Yeah

[crimson zinc]

I’d suggest going with a fan, personally. Then upgrading to an AIO when you can learn a bit more in depth about keeping up with the maintenance of the PC, what parts get dustier, etc etc.

[fierce heath]

I can always clean it

With a air blow thing

[crimson zinc]

Are you sure you wanna start with an AIO? Just to be 100%.

[fierce heath]

What’s the difference with it

Is it just fans

[crimson zinc]

An AIO is a liquid based coolant in a closed system.
It’s normally used with a radiator that you place on the top, front, or bottom of the pc.

The difference with an AIO and a regular fan, is that AIOs have an “expiration” date. Most do not last over 5-7 years, regardless of maintenance done.
They do offer slightly better aesthetics, and some offer slightly better cooling.

Fans are often a little higher maintenance, but can last years on end if taken care of. And they offer nearly the same cooling performance.

[fierce heath]

So every 5 years I’ll replace it

[stoic island]

AIO still has fans on it, any maintenance you'll need for an air cooler, you'll need to do the same for an AIO

[crimson zinc]

That too

[fierce heath]

So basically all I need to do it’s make sure it’s not dusty

And if I’ll see a drop I’ll buy a new one

It’s not like a water cooler so I’ll be fine

[crimson zinc]

It is still coolant being used

There is still a risk of leaks and such.

[stoic island]

Smaller air coolers aren't very good at cooling CPUs, but a decent air cooler will be fine

[fierce heath]

It’s big

It’s 3 fan

One

[crimson zinc]

https://youtu.be/f5Yj1fcce7o?feature=shared

I suggest watching this video before making a decision

[stoic island]

Main problem with AIOs is that if the pump dies, you're kinda screwed until you replace it.

[fierce heath]

Wait I have to put water in it?

[stoic island]

AIO are all in one, with included coolant

[fierce heath]

I’ll just take an air one

[stoic island]

You only need to buy coolant for a custom loop

[fierce heath]

I thought that was an air one Icl

[crimson zinc]

Then your best bet is the king of cooling, Thermalright Peerless Assassin SE

[fierce heath]

Can you add it on the list please

[crimson zinc]

(It comes with thermal paste)

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RtXR9C

I have one in my rig
And I know that several others here do as well.

[fierce heath]

Wait I’m so confused omg

Let me watch the video

[crimson zinc]

Go ahead.

Watch the whole thing, don’t skip around lmao

[fierce heath]

I might of skipped a lot

Anyways

Basically 2-5 years if it goes bad

I’ll buy a new one

I don’t mind that

[fierce heath]

I like the look of the NZXT Kraken 360 RGB 78.02 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

It’s the screen custom

[crimson zinc]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BNkfcx

[fierce heath]

Yeah again it’s really ugly I’m sorry 😭

[stoic island]

NZXT AIOs tend to be pretty overpriced, if you want a small oled screen on the aio, thermalright has the frozen warframe

[crimson zinc]

I’ll let @stoic island take over,

[stoic island]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/sxP8TW/thermalright-frozen-warframe-argb-7084-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-warframe-360-black-argb

[fierce heath]

I like the circle shape

Better

It is a lot cheaper tho

But apart from the cooler is the pc good

[crimson zinc]

Yeah

[fierce heath]

Thank you so much for the help i appreciate it

[stoic island]

then you might like the aqua elite
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/hb9wrH/thermalright-aqua-elite-argb-v2-689-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-aqua-elite-360-black-argb-v2

Thermalright just has a ton of well priced options lol

[fierce heath]

Is the screen customisable?

It’s so small

Tho

[stoic island]

if you want the display to be usable, core vision
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/b8MXsY/thermalright-core-vision-argb-7237-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-core-vision-360-black

[fierce heath]

That’s nice but they took the rgb out

Or does it still have it

[stoic island]

That one doesn't, but there should be one that does

lemme go check again

[fierce heath]

Okay thanks

[stoic island]

yea there's a separate core vision argb
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/6Rkqqs/thermalright-core-vision-argb-7237-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-core-vision-360-black-argb

pcpp mislabeled the first one, the first one was the black only one

[fierce heath]

Thank touuu

Is there any better rem

Ram

I don’t like the design

On them ones

[stoic island]

if you want something more plain, there's this with the same freq and timings
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/4cCCmG/patriot-viper-venom-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-pvv532g600c30k

there's this for all black for the same thing but a bit more expensive
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/scFmP6/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afde

[fierce heath]

I want the same as the one list just not bumpy like that

[stoic island]

So you want the stick to be black and RGB and without anything too fancy?

[stoic island]

something like this?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Q3dG3C/adata-xpg-lancer-blade-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ax5u6000c3016g-dtlabrbk

It's a flat line of rgb

[fierce heath]

Yeah but can I have the best brand

Can the led be a bit more to

[stoic island]

I mean all of these 6000c30 kits are going to be hynix dies, it doesn't really matter what the brand that slaps a heatsink on it is (outside of corsair artificially limiting you)

wdym by a bit more?

[fierce heath]

Like more thick

[fierce heath]

Oh so there all the same

[stoic island]

for 6000 c30 kits, that aren't Corsair, yea

6000c30 is just one of the presets that's known to be only achievable by hynix dies right now

[fierce heath]

Huh

[stoic island]

samsung dies can't get timings that low, and micron can't really hit that frequency or timings rn lol

[fierce heath]

Yeah no idea what ur saying

[crimson zinc]

RAM Overclocking.

[fierce heath]

I’m just going to say with the ram I have on it

No idea what that is to

[stoic island]

not even overclocking, just what the ram itself can do

its 3 big companies making the die that goes into the ram right now (for ddr5 and available in NA/EU)

hynix micron and samsung

right now hynix makes the best stuff

hynix dies also will overclock the best rn

[fierce heath]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6NNpLc

I think

That’s fine now

The only I don’t know about is the case it looks big

Thanks guys you saved me money

One last thing is the mother board okay

[stoic island]

b650 eagle ax is pretty decent

[fierce heath]

Okay thanks should I get a better one or keep

[stoic island]

It's good, it has all the features you'd usually need

nothing special, nothing bad

[fierce heath]

Okay thanks

[stoic island]

you're welcome

[smoky dew]

IT BOOTED LETS GO

MY BACK IS HURTING SO MUCH

[snow dragon]

Only thing I have to say is to put in on the desk or an end table

Then

done

[smoky dew]

the red light on mobo is on tho and I’m stuck in bios it seems

🫡

[fallen sphinx]

id get a 9070xt unless you plan to play in 4k

xtx is only 6% better, but also like 150 more expensive, and 9000 has fsr4 and better rt

although the 24gb vram is really nice for 4k

[little osprey]

Should I cancel and keep waiting for an msrp card? Gpu was $2759 pre tax and shipping

[fallen sphinx]

i hope you realize that msrp 5090 isnt happening for years

[plucky timber]

Or just don't buy it

[little osprey]

Another discord told me bestbuy has had a few FE restocks the past month

[plucky timber]

The msrp is overpriced in the first place tbh

[snow dragon]

trve...

[little osprey]

I'm not saying it isn't. But the writing is on the wall at this point and consumers have barely any room to have a voice since they don't matter to Nvidia anymore because of its AI market share

[fallen sphinx]

9090xt is looking more and more likely everyday

[little osprey]

And AMD is always just short of being the company it needs to be

[fallen sphinx]

you mean cheap gpus for gamers that arent false marketed

[plucky timber]

I think this is the point where you start considering if it's really worth paying $3000 for video games

That's 2 computers worth of money

[little osprey]

I have 30 days to decide that

And I make enough money for it to not matter

[plucky timber]

ok

[little osprey]

But, I still like saving money if I can

[fallen sphinx]

if you make enough for it to not matter get a rtx 6000 lmao

[snow dragon]

Is that a combo or nah

[little osprey]

"LOL YOU MAKE ENOUGH FOR $3K NOT TO MATTER? SPEND $10K THEN" - You

[fallen sphinx]

i didnt say that did i

i said if you dont care about price to perforamcne get the best

[snow dragon]

Is that a gpu and psu combo

[plucky timber]

#general-chat shenanigans going on here

[fallen sphinx]

thatd be a terruble combo if it was

[snow dragon]

Yea im just tryna say if you do gotta return it for whatever reason, you gotta return the psu as well if it is a combo

[plucky timber]

See

[fallen sphinx]

the psu is overpriced by a solid 160$

[plucky timber]

If 12vhpwr blows them both up...

[smoky dew]

@plucky timber I did the swap today, but I’m stuck in bios/bitlocker screen

[fallen sphinx]

yeah century II 1200w is 130

300$ for a 1250w is mental

[plucky timber]

Flash bios

[smoky dew]

how does one flash bios

[snow dragon]

bitlocker screen?

[fallen sphinx]

or 1300w evga G+ for 130

[plucky timber]

Oh wait nvm

It booted into bios

[snow dragon]

Yeah sometimes newegg prices are nutty

[smoky dew]

first I couldn’t get past bios until I put in my ssd

[fallen sphinx]

i thought my 130$ 850w was bad lmao

[little osprey]

This is final price, like I said, it includes tax and shipping

[fallen sphinx]

i dont think tax and shipping double the price of a psu

[plucky timber]

$150 shipping or something?

[little osprey]

The psu was $240

[plucky timber]

What do you mean by bitlocker

[smoky dew]

I’ll send pic hold on

[fallen sphinx]

thats 100$ overpriced

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ds8Pxr/montech-century-ii-1200-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-ii-1200w

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z6GnTW/evga-supernova-1300-g-1300-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-gp-1300-x1

even better deal

[snow dragon]

Big guy

[fallen sphinx]

same price, 1300w over 1200w, better psu

[little osprey]

I wanted atx 3.1 and pcie 5.1

[plucky timber]

Oh

[smoky dew]

but there’s no key on my ms account

[plucky timber]

Microsoft 🤡

Sorry can't help you there

I don't use windows

[smoky dew]

Mannn

[snow dragon]

Do you still have the old cpu

[smoky dew]

Yes

[snow dragon]

Ok you gotta put that back in and turn off bitlocker

Bitlocker is turned on by default

[snow dragon]

Also make sure to turn off ftpm

[plucky timber]

Free MacOS/Linux advertisement

[snow dragon]

Actually wait

[smoky dew]

So I have to dismantle this entire build then reassemble the old build and reassemble

[snow dragon]

Is this an amd platform

[fickle bolt]

What the heck

[smoky dew]

yes

I’m swapping from intel to amd

[snow dragon]

What was the last cpu

Brutal

[plucky timber]

10700F

[little osprey]

Make sure you get a laptop out of the dumpster and install puppy Linux on it

[lyric thistle]

Just manifest one out of thin air like I did :^)

I mean what

[plucky timber]

Microsoft needs to fix their crappy OS

This isn't a real product

Where is the real windows 11

This is the successor to windows vista

[snow dragon]

Ok so get the intel cpu and put the cpu and cooler on it and plug in the connectors outside the case so you dont gotta dismantle everything

[plucky timber]

Not windows 10

[snow dragon]

Put the drive in

[stoic island]

If your windows key hasn't been tied to your Microsoft account, you're not going to be able to find your recovery key through your Microsoft account

[little osprey]

Microsoft is ran by an entirely different group of people that don't know how to code

[stoic island]

Just gotta go back and turn off the security settings

[little osprey]

And are the same kind of people that destroyed the Google search engine so you'd have to view more ads

[plucky timber]

I don't use google

[little osprey]

I don't care

Literally just using it as example

[plucky timber]

?????

[little osprey]

Not a combo

[snow dragon]

Oh ok

[plucky timber]

I'd just get a different psu

[snow dragon]

Yeah i got some stuff on my computer

[fallen sphinx]

id get a new psu then

[little osprey]

Explain why

[fallen sphinx]

the one you bought is overpriced?

[stoic island]

The century II posted earlier is also ATX 3.1 for more than $100 cheaper

[smoky dew]

Ima need tips on that brother

[snow dragon]

Did u see what i was sayin

[plucky timber]

That psu is just as overpriced as the gpu

[snow dragon]

Just have the board out the case with the cooler on top and cables plugged in

All you gotta do is turn off bitlocker

[plucky timber]

Both 2x of what it's worth

[smoky dew]

is clean install an option

[snow dragon]

Wait

I just realized

[snow dragon]

This is the better option

[plucky timber]

Do you need the data

[snow dragon]

Because windows will not know what is going on when switching platforms

[smoky dew]

No I was gonna wipe everything after I booted anyway

[plucky timber]

Yeah just do a fresh install

[smoky dew]

I have to do that with an usb or something don’t I?

[plucky timber]

Yes

[snow dragon]

Yeah download the iso

Its faster than getting the installation media and then waiting for it to install itself

[smoky dew]

I’d literally rather that

[snow dragon]

Iso downloads and then boot to it

[plucky timber]

🤨

[snow dragon]

what

[smoky dew]

Is it possible to command prompt it through the recovery screen to download it? I know this sounds stupid

[plucky timber]

Missing a couple steps here

[snow dragon]

Well you cant access windows anyway because of bitlocker

[plucky timber]

Rufus/ the multi boot thing

What's it called again

I'm blanking out

[snow dragon]

Yeah you gotta get something like rufus or ventoy and then put the iso on it

[plucky timber]

Yeah ventoy

[snow dragon]

Even then its still faster than installation media

its so slow

[plucky timber]

Microsoft

[snow dragon]

Nah

[plucky timber]

You need another computer

There is no getting around it

[lyric thistle]

🙂

[smoky dew]

So it’s expected that it tells me “there was an error resetting your pc” everytime I try?

[plucky timber]

?

Try what?

[smoky dew]

when I’m in the recovery screen it gives me the option to wipe my pc

With or without data saved

[plucky timber]

Oh

I don't use windows recovery so

Can't help you there

[little osprey]

Ok

I decided I'm going to get a NZXT C1500 psu instead

[fallen sphinx]

thats 400$

[little osprey]

[fallen sphinx]

if you wanna waste money why not get smth thatll actually help with performance

[plucky timber]

#general-chat has escaped containment

[snow dragon]

fellas online freak out about psu price, say to get a cheaper and better one
spends double the price

Honestly

Based I respect it

[little osprey]

Christ. I spent an extra $100 on a psu that has two of the 12v 2x6 connectors

[snow dragon]

Im just messing around

[fallen sphinx]

why does nvidia even use that connector 😭

[lyric thistle]

Because it's fake

[plucky timber]

I'm almost certain there's a psu with the same specs that's not overpriced

[lyric thistle]

Probably

[fallen sphinx]

(montech century II)

[lyric thistle]

Who manufactures it

[little osprey]

There's lots of respectable name psus 1200w 3.1 compliant for $200

[fallen sphinx]

theres respectable name psus 1200w 3.1 compliant for 130

[little osprey]

Well, I guess I'll have to double mortgage my house to cover the 100 then

I narrowed it down to 3 psus

Corsair, nzxt or msi

[plucky timber]

🤨

[little osprey]

No montech

No segotep

[fallen sphinx]

why waste money and gain nothing

[little osprey]

No superflower

[fallen sphinx]

thats genuinely one of the best psu makers why not them...

[snow dragon]

[little osprey]

I have a superflower psu

I didn't care how their 1300w 3.1 psu performed in tests. One of the rails failed

[fallen sphinx]

which one...

[smoky dew]

I’m doing this rn

[fallen sphinx]

was it Leadex III Gold UP ATX 3.1 (GE)

[plucky timber]

[fallen sphinx]

^

[little osprey]

Super Flower Leadex III 1300W ATX v3.1

No gold up

[fallen sphinx]

yup, thats E on psu tier list

an E admist all the A's

[plucky timber]

The montech is way better than that

[little osprey]

Tell you what

[fallen sphinx]

^

[little osprey]

You buy me the psu and ill use it

[fallen sphinx]

im broke

if you wanna overspend go ahead

[plucky timber]

https://tenor.com/view/diagnosis-skill-issue-diagnosis-skill-issue-draker-discord-gif-22231351

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[gentle pollen]

Enermax D.F2 1,200W is A tier and $138 on Amazon.

[stoic island]

fyi the only ATX V3.1 Leadex iii is the Gold Up one

and uh brand wise basically everything listed is manufacturered by CWT so

[midnight heart]

good lineup for 1800$ cad? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pdYXqH

[little osprey]

Whats $896 CA to USD

Is it close? Don't get a 5070. Get the 5070 ti or 9070xt

[gentle pollen]

$654

[plucky timber]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/T9YXqH

alternatively

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qj9KQd

[midnight heart]

what did u change

[plucky timber]

optimized most of the parts

they're better priced

same performance for less

[midnight heart]

oh i forgot to mention that the cpu, gpu, ram, and motherboard is bundled

so i can't change those

[plucky timber]

what's the price of the bundle

[midnight heart]

1400 cad

[plucky timber]

for just those parts?

[smoky dew]

@snow dragon LETS GET MARRIED THANK YOU THANK HOU THANK YOU

[midnight heart]

1022 usd

[midnight heart]

yeah its the best i can find

[plucky timber]

may I suggest spending the money on the gpu instead

[plucky timber]

Which is this list essentially

[midnight heart]

is 5070 not good enough?

[plucky timber]

Well here's the thing

you spend a similar amount of money

but you get a better gpu