building-and-recc-chat

[plucky timber]

but the ones copied from windows work

because it's dosfs > dosfs

rather than dosfs > ext4 > dosfs

[zenith cargo]

no luck guys 🥲

ima buy on amazon

one on*

[manic cloak]

5800x for 100$

Is that any good?

[plucky timber]

Sure

Not sure how the used market is at the moment

But generally R5s are around that price new

[covert aspen]

Yo is this a good pc find :Dell Precision 3620 Gaming PC Tower Desktop Computer - Intel Quad Core I5 Processor Up to 3.60 GHz | 32GB DDR4 RAM 1TB SSD | GeForce RTX 3050 6GB GPU | Windows 10 Pro | Gaming Keyboard Mouse - Black. cost 399.

i am going to upgrade it over time or buy a better one . Its just prob a starter pc for me

[dusky hearth]

Dell isn't the best option for upgrading over time

Or rather

The worst option for upgrading over time

If you want to upgrade a Dell desktop outside of the cpu (minor upgrade realistically), storage, ram, or GPU, you'll have to buy a new case, mobo, psu, cpu

(cpu technically not needed to upgrade but it's not really worth staying on the same platform if you're upgrading MOBO)

[weary galleon]

3050 is also just a pretty bad card

[covert aspen]

thanks , for the information of upgrading over time. is it a good starter pc though

[dusky hearth]

I would probably look for other options

3050 iirc is around igpu performance on current gen

[obsidian wigeon]

it's.. okay, but you cannot upgrade that thing

[snow dragon]

@plucky timber Remember all of those windows setting menus

There is another one called microsoft management console

I forgot what it was called so i couldnt find it

[covert aspen]

thanks for the info

[kindred pawn]

if i want to game and edit pictures/videos, would there be any point in getting a mini pc? im just interested in knowing what's the difference between a desktop and a mini pc

[plucky timber]

Depends on what games you play

The difference is pretty much just the form factor

If you want the best of both worlds I'd recommend getting a pc in a compact MATX case rather than a mini pc

[kindred pawn]

I was thinking just something that can get me at least 120 fps in whatever game I play. I play games like marvel rivals, Minecraft, and fighting games. Im also going to be using blender, light room and DaVinci resolve

[plucky timber]

Definitely not a mini pc

If you want something cheap that is

Budget?

[kindred pawn]

$1,500 CAD

Id assume I need a lot of ram because of photo and video editing

[plucky timber]

Depends

People often overestimate what they really need for video editing

By massive amounts

[kindred pawn]

Yeah? I was thinking I would need 64gb

[plucky timber]

I mean

[kindred pawn]

Im not sure if thats overkill or not

[plucky timber]

Are you editing complex 4k raw footage?

[kindred pawn]

I will be yes

[plucky timber]

what kind?

[kindred pawn]

Ill be editing car footage, rollers and stationary

[plucky timber]

as in the file format

[kindred pawn]

Oh 💀 im not sure

[plucky timber]

doesn't sound like a 64GB workload

[kindred pawn]

Worst case scenario I can upgrade later

[plucky timber]

well

that's a bit annoying with ddr5

you'll have to swap out the ram kit in that case

either way 32GB should be fine

[kindred pawn]

Works for me

[plucky timber]

is gaming the secondary focus or main focus

[kindred pawn]

Main

But my job is car photography and videography

[plucky timber]

so

I assume you're not going to have complex timelines in davinci then

[kindred pawn]

Can't imagine i will be now that im thinking about it

[plucky timber]

the budget was

2500 you say?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/68vDFZ

technically this fits in the budget

however

cpu's overpriced

actually that's in cad

so it's not too overpriced

[kindred pawn]

I said $1,500 😭

[plucky timber]

oh

whoops

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/fKRwZc

test list

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TtdGDj

$50 more to go

[kindred pawn]

Sweet man thanks for the help!

[plucky timber]

wait

I'm not done yet

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007748707834.html?

[plucky timber]

if you buy this aliexpress cpu instead of the 7600 in the list, it'll be around 1500

@kindred pawn https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xmpQYd

[kindred pawn]

Sounds good

[plucky timber]

one more thing

on the pcpartpicker list

you need to click on the text "Ryzen 5 7500F" to get the link to the aliexpress listing

since it's an external link

other than that

enjoy your mini-ish pc

[zenith cargo]

wait iso repairs my windows or reinstalls it?

[plucky timber]

You can do both

[zenith cargo]

i don’t want to reinstall it that’s why

[plucky timber]

if you can't repair it

you will have to

[zenith cargo]

alr got the usb

only option i have is to do it on an asus rog ally like this 💀

at least it reads it

do i need to install it?

[plucky timber]

No

Do not install it

[zenith cargo]

ok

ok formatted to fat32

what’s next?

[zenith cargo]

why does it does say that

I have 28gb available

[zenith cargo]

?

[snow dragon]

Fat32 cant have any files larger than like 4.2 gigabytes or something

Format it to exfat

[zenith cargo]

i used ventoy and put windows 11 media creation tool in there

[snow dragon]

Ventoy is for isos

[zenith cargo]

I downloaded the iso file

[snow dragon]

So format the drive to exfat and download the iso again

[zenith cargo]

So don’t boot in normal mode rn

[snow dragon]

But it didnt complete because of fat32 integer limit

[zenith cargo]

doesn’t ventoy take care of that?

[snow dragon]

.

[zenith cargo]

okay

[snow dragon]

Format to exfat and download the iso. Exfat is the same thing as fat32, except its 64 bit instead of 32 bit

Also useful for windows because the iso size is quite big

[zenith cargo]

I was able to put the iso in the end. I still redo it and format to exFat right?

[snow dragon]

Format first then redownload it

[zenith cargo]

ight

[snow dragon]

That iso is not complete, which is why it doesn’t pop up

[zenith cargo]

How do I get out of ventoy

[snow dragon]

Stopped downloading once it hit 4.2 gigs

[snow dragon]

I just press the power button

[zenith cargo]

alr

[snow dragon]

Maybe boot normal mode does the same thing idk

But it turns off instantly eith the power button so i dont mind

[zenith cargo]

i think it was already in exFat

[zenith cargo]

.

it is

[snow dragon]

You said it was fat32 earlier and also that first pic is the format menu

[zenith cargo]

yea

[snow dragon]

So as of now yes it is exfat

Esrlier it wasn’t

[zenith cargo]

ig ventoy formatted it

[zenith cargo]

yup

[snow dragon]

Correct

Now it should work

And now you can put other bootable isos if you wish

[zenith cargo]

i booted in normal mode and sent me to the recovery page btw

[snow dragon]

Ok so that option goes past ventoy like a normal boot

Is the iso on there now

[zenith cargo]

i have this one

[snow dragon]

Ok cool

Does that show up when you boot ventoy

[zenith cargo]

yup

[snow dragon]

Yurr

Press enter

[zenith cargo]

bet

same menu as before

🥲

[snow dragon]

Wtf

[zenith cargo]

shi is fuked

🥲🥲🥲🥲

gotta reinstall windows

🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲

[snow dragon]

Is that the same iso from earlier or is that a completely new installation

[zenith cargo]

same from earlier

[snow dragon]

Ok so thats probably why

I was saying you gotta redownload it

[zenith cargo]

ooo

even tho it was already in exfat

[snow dragon]

Yeah because thats probably the broken iso from the failed download

[zenith cargo]

when it was in fat32. I wouldn’t let me right

[snow dragon]

Ya get me

[zenith cargo]

so i downloaded ventoy

it’s formatted to exfat

then kept the same file from earlier

just retried it again

[snow dragon]

Ok

[zenith cargo]

i’ll just re download it then

do I just delete the file and redownload or format it again ?

[snow dragon]

No need to reformat you can just delete jt

[zenith cargo]

this one right

[snow dragon]

Yeah

[zenith cargo]

i don’t need media creation tool right?

[snow dragon]

I have not seen that before

Ok

Do you have another pc that you can put your current ssd into?

You can take your ssd out, put it in another computer and take whatever files you need out and then wipe the drive

[zenith cargo]

zamn

so reinstall windows then

[snow dragon]

Yeah I guess so

Put your drive in another computer and try to pull out whatever you can

Do you have an nvme enclosure

[zenith cargo]

idc about my files ngl

[snow dragon]

Ok that makes it simpler

[zenith cargo]

my bros pc don’t work

[snow dragon]

[snow dragon]

Brutal

So no choice then but it dont matter ig

Reinstall time

[zenith cargo]

this is literally gonna be my 3rd fresh windows install in less than a year 💀

back in Nov

[snow dragon]

That is a 24h2 moment

[zenith cargo]

i messed up my pc o. accident

was uninstalling steam

and turned off my pc

[snow dragon]

People are still on 23h2 for a reason

[zenith cargo]

cuz it looked glitched

[snow dragon]

And I think they made the right choice

[zenith cargo]

got the bsod

[snow dragon]

Over

[zenith cargo]

paid $80 for a guy to do it cuz idk how

back then

now i do

zamn

wait

[snow dragon]

Wow you got bagged what the hell

[zenith cargo]

rong

brooke

me

brokie

wait

i’m using edge

not chrome

does that make a difference

[snow dragon]

No

[zenith cargo]

ok

zamn

there’s no other solution to this then?

I really don’t want to install everything again 🥲🥲🥲

[snow dragon]

Can you try copying the iso anyway and see if it can boot

Lets see what happens

[zenith cargo]

alt

alr

[zenith cargo]

alr set up my bros pc

lmao

imma try it on her

here

[zenith cargo]

bro

i think i found the problem

it was the format type

i changed it to nfts

[zenith cargo]

i’m able to copy media installation with no problem versus exfat which it says i can’t copy the file properties

going to download iso now and see if it also lets me copy it

i downloaded the media installation which let me copy it without a prob

[tender cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BzZqgn any improvements i should make? not really looking to spend more but if its necessary

[plucky timber]

Oh boy

I'm gonna be real with you

The psu is the only thing that doesn't need fixing

[tender cedar]

Fr?? 😭

[plucky timber]

correction

psu and gpu

I guess the cooler is fine too

not that you need a PA120 anyways

[tender cedar]

Is 5600x not balanced with 6600

[plucky timber]

no

[tender cedar]

Right I was thinking about trying to overlock since I've never done it before so thought the cooling would be helpful

[plucky timber]

but the 5600 is cheaper

ram is quite literally the worst kit you could've gotten

I am not joking when I say that the cheapest kit is better

[tender cedar]

Seriously

What's so bad about it

[plucky timber]

Corsair Vengeance DDR4 is notorious for its quality issues

kits not running stable at xmp is one example

Corsair's quality control on DDR4 isn't that good either

[tender cedar]

Seemed to be one of the cheapest 32gb ddr4 I could find that's why I picked it

[plucky timber]

it's not

[tender cedar]

Aight fair enough but I should still go for 32gb not 16?

[plucky timber]

and the ssd

where did you find that ssd

[plucky timber]

there are 32GB kits for cheaper

I'm more amazed at how you managed to find these parts

I have to actively go look for them

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w3WKRV

[tender cedar]

Honestly just picked randomly since I thought SSD wouldn't really matter much just some cheaper one

[plucky timber]

this is $50 less and better

[tender cedar]

😭😭

[plucky timber]

see

that ssd is extremely overpriced

and it's bottom barrel

this is how you end up with my list being $50 cheaper while being technically superior

parts selection is the hardest part about building a pc

wait

6600 non xt?

[tender cedar]

Problem is I live in Finland so it might be difficult to find cheaper ones

[plucky timber]

hold up

[plucky timber]

oh

you shouldn't use pcpartpicker us

[tender cedar]

What should I use

[plucky timber]

there's a finnish site

[tender cedar]

Fr?

[plucky timber]

what's your budget

in euros

[tender cedar]

Maybe 700 max 800 since I also need to buy a decent monitor

[plucky timber]

ok

I'll keep your monitor in

since I'm not really the monitor expert here

[tender cedar]

Alright yeah thanks

[tender cedar]

Also btw there's a lot of items on Amazon de that have free shipping to Finland the monitor is listed at 200 euros on proshop.fi but on the German Amazon its currently 117 usd and free shipping

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KLf2np

not ideal

[tender cedar]

for the cpu i was looking at proshop.fi and they have amd ryzen 5 5600x just the tray chip for 99 euros i think with the peerless asssin cooler i shouldn't really need the stealth wraith or whatever comes with the box

right?

[plucky timber]

can you find the non x for less?

because you can just overclock the non x

to match the x

[tender cedar]

unfortunately can't find one with free shipping proshop doesnt have non x

[plucky timber]

Fair enough

[tender cedar]

i mean looks good about 700 without monitor is what i was going for

[plucky timber]

the parts are a bit better

so

not the greatest savings

but you get more out of every dollar spent

[tender cedar]

haven't seen datatronic before but seems like they got bit cheaper parts

[tender cedar]

yeah true

and this pc should be able to run like elden ring smoothly? 60fps

maybe some newer AAA games

[plucky timber]

er

It's as good as 913 euros can get you

without looking into used parts

I'd recommend looking for used gpus

you may be able to get a better card for the same price

[tender cedar]

does that not hurt longevity

[plucky timber]

not if the card is better

If you're looking for a used card

you're looking for a faster card at the same price

[tender cedar]

so used gpu so that i can get a better cpu?

[plucky timber]

no

used gpu so you can get a better gpu

[tender cedar]

ah

[south cliff]

[snow dragon]

Ryzen 5 5600 and 6600, my old combo

[manic cloak]

woot in 4 woot in 4 woot in 4

[zenith cargo]

ok idk know how but my windows is fixed

even got automatic repair couldn’t install

next thing ik my pc boots up normally

[timber marsh]

Looking to build a 4k gaming pc running with decent frames for a somehwat affordable price, budget 1500 if possible, What CPU and GPU should I purchase?

[stoic island]

It's somewhat doable, aiming for 4k60 for most games, don't expect 100+ fps, but you're completely reliant upon GPU pricing rn, first step is trying to get a MSRP 9070xt or 5070ti if possible, if not, marked up 9070xt might have to do

Assuming 1500 budget doesn't have to include monitor too

[timber marsh]

Already have a monitor, recently picked up the LG Ultragear 32in OLED, Thank You! What CPU would you recomend with that? I was looking at the 9600x but wasnt sure if that would be underpowered

[stoic island]

4k is very graphically heavy and not too reliant upon the CPU, 9600x should work fine, I can make a list in a bit

[timber marsh]

Yeah I just need something abit better right now. Running an only i5 9400 and Rx 6600xt, not terrible but not great for 4k, I already have storage drives aswell.

[odd venture]

Why are the Intel 14900K flooded with 1 star reviews on NewEgg? They seem fine everywhere else? I'm aware of the BIOs patch, I'm wondering if it's just people that didn't update their BIOs, but I wonder now, why exclusive to NewEgg?

[plucky timber]

you should almost never rely on site reviews

for a measure of the product

it's a good metric to measure the seller but not the actual product

[fallen sphinx]

What games do you play

[odd venture]

So I should just buy products that have a reputation for low reviews.

I think my neighbor did that with his air conditioner and it burned his house down, nearly, maybe the same thing would apply to food. Just order from the lowest quality restaurant. I disagree, I think if at least a few hundred people have a bad experience with something, and take the time to review it. I mean that's kind of the point of reviews.

[dusky hearth]

"almost"

[plucky timber]

that is not what I said

[odd venture]

Well almost never, shares a thin line between never.

[plucky timber]

I believe you did not understand what I said

[odd venture]

Most of the time, or none of the time?

[plucky timber]

So I'm going to rephrase it

[odd venture]

I believe you're correct on that.

I think you could elaborate on why you believe what you believe, and that might help to support your point and avoid confusion.

[dusky hearth]

The wording could be slightly better; 'almost never only rely on site reviews' would be better but I feel like most people would have understood anyways

[odd venture]

Well I'm not most people, I'm probably a little bit less.

Let's just make that assumption real fast.

[plucky timber]

Reviews on the product page, especially of a tech variety, is not the most reliable source of information to determine if a product is good. For example:

These reviews do not accurate the performance of, in this case, the i7-9700k

[odd venture]

Sure I get that, the original question was why reviews were lower on NewEgg vs everywhere else.

[plucky timber]

well that's what I'm getting at

That's probably not due to the cpu

[odd venture]

That's what I'm thinking, I'm just trying to understand why NewEgg would have this influx of DOA's, bad batch or what. People that didn't update their bios. — if I know.

[plucky timber]

which is exactly what I'm getting at here

reviews on the product page are not exactly the most reliable (for tech products)

if it was something like say

a frying pan

it'd be more straightforward

[odd venture]

Alright yeah I see what you're saying, it's still odd that Microcenter, Amazon, etc would be full of 5 star reviews and NewEgg is just the oddball

[plucky timber]

you can have people give a one star review of an Ryzen 5 5500 because they used it with a b350 board with an incompatible bios

[odd venture]

That could happen anywhere, amazon etc.

[plucky timber]

There's also the matter of sample size

[odd venture]

There's plenty reviews elsewhere with issues exactly like that, user error, but it's not proportionate to the amount on NewEgg

[plucky timber]

this is a third party

the one actually sold by newegg is rated a lot better

[odd venture]

That's the one in question.

Yeah it's got 4 stars. but the most recent reviews are a lot of 1 stars.

[plucky timber]

which really brings me back to my original point

[odd venture]

I'm needing to upgrade my system soon, and I'm not about to buy an AM5 board yet, since it's cheaper for me to just finish the Intel build I have now. But the reviews concerned me.

[plucky timber]

site reviews can be full of people who have no idea of what they're doing

[odd venture]

..and they very often. Are

Especially in the field of computing.

[plucky timber]

which is why you should only trust information from sources who know what they're talking about

[odd venture]

It's just odd the reviews on NewEgg would be any different from anywhere else. IMO

Still doesn't make sense to me lol.

[plucky timber]

sample size

[odd venture]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking

2700 reviews amazon, 200 on newegg

[plucky timber]

regarding 14th gen, as long as you update the bios to a version where the issues are ironed out

you shouldn't see any degradation

[odd venture]

My buddy has a 14900k, I updated the bios for him and his has been fine tbh

I wasn't sure if the bios patch really solved the issue completely or not, I was under the idea that it did, but not 100% certain y'know

If I'm about to spend 300+ on a cpu, you could understand just as much as anyone else why a page of 1 stars would give anxiety lol

[plucky timber]

There hasn't been any significant reports for users who are on the correct bios revision

[plucky timber]

yeah but again

[odd venture]

That's nice to know.

[plucky timber]

not really the right tool

[odd venture]

tool?

[odd venture]

i can reach 2 conclusions from that review.

It's either a good psu or he got lucky

due to sample size I can't really make a definite conclusion.

Knowing thermaltake, i'd say it's pretty solid.

[plucky timber]

well...

[odd venture]

But for the sake of the argument yeah

[plucky timber]

it's actually just a bomb

[odd venture]

I have no idea what I'm looking at

[plucky timber]

basically it's an excerpt from the ZTT tier list

which has been painsteaking compiled using sources such as psu in depth psu reviews that review the, electrical components, the performance of the unit under load, etc.

if you are just to refer to product page reviews for that select psu

then you would most likely be mislead

that's why it's generally a good idea to do a bit more research before purchasing any component

[odd venture]

It's the first I've heard of PSU Tier lists, so thanks for sharing the information. It's beneficial.

[plucky timber]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=931697732#gid=931697732

here's the reference if you want it

it's very useful

[odd venture]

I already had it up, lol. Thanks

Google works wonders.

[plucky timber]

make sure you refer to the ZTT tier list for future reference

it's the most up to date

[obsidian wigeon]

i like reading that tier list but

why are the brand names vertical

lmao

also asus and asrock only has decent to good psus huh

that's interesting

[plucky timber]

yeah

the asrock challenger gold are pretty good options

for budget builds

although atm adata wins in value

[obsidian wigeon]

the evga n1 stays pinned at f tier

as expected

the bomb that legit melted a dude's setup and his pc

[manic cloak]

My microcenter has the 9070xt steel legends for 699.99 or I get an open box power color Reaper for 719.99

[manic cloak]

Holy & I just realized this, microcenter brought back the 7600x3d for 450$ but jacked the 7800x3d to 580$ now, then there's some dude on marketplace selling a kinda sus 350$ 9800x3d for "possible trades to intel"

[languid nimbus]

Geez yeah microcenter hasn’t been hitting lately

[old sedge]

is this good for a work pc? use cases 3d, 2d maybe a bit of ai and game dev I already have psu case and storage https://newegg.io/a88c745

[weary galleon]

you'll probably want a gpu for 3d/game dev

Also this is a much better cooler
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BNH1W546

[sacred holly]

Don’t see a single 4 pin fan header

I untied it cs I thought I was tripping, still can’t find one

[honest knot]

yea doing daisy chain on fans is quite confusing sometimes

i see that some of the rgb are connected aswell

[sacred holly]

Yea I’m so lost

[honest knot]

can i get another angle if possible

[sacred holly]

Should I unplug everything and show you as well

[honest knot]

try if possible

[honest knot]

holy...

[sacred holly]

I see some 4 pin connectors but all of these wires are very confusing

It’s literally only three fans too

[honest knot]

ok lets start simple, what we need to do is to find one 4pin pwm cord to connect to the motherboard and then extend it from there

[sacred holly]

Alright, doesn’t matter which one?

[honest knot]

doesn't matter afaik

have you watched/read a guide on how to daisy chain by any chance?

[sacred holly]

It came daisy chained and I believe i cooked it

I’ve done this to myself

[honest knot]

oh

[sacred holly]

So the 4 pin into fan 1?

[honest knot]

sys_fan 1 yea

what fans are they anyway?

[sacred holly]

Not cha_fan 1?

[honest knot]

does the motherboard have a fan hub?

[sacred holly]

Montech

And it doesn’t

Went for a cheap case

I only see cha fan

[honest knot]

montech model
and motherboard model please

[sacred holly]

Montech Xr Mid Tower Case

B850M Pro Rs WiFi micro atx

AsRock

[honest knot]

one moment

ah ok

[sacred holly]

Alright so from that, where do we go

[honest knot]

so you have 3 fans right?

[sacred holly]

Yep

[honest knot]

do you plan on adding extra in the future?

[sacred holly]

Nope

[honest knot]

ok

so, if one of those fans cant reach one of CHA ports then the extenders might help

[honest knot]

ok thats good

[sacred holly]

Would this be correct

[honest knot]

yes

so now take one of the fans main header and connect it to that extender reaching out

and then do the same for the other fans if necessary

[sacred holly]

So take the same 4 pin i just had?

From another fan and put into that extension

[honest knot]

the fan you connect will have the same extender with it

[honest knot]

yea

hence the name daisy chain

[sacred holly]

Alright boom

[honest knot]

that is correct nice

[sacred holly]

Once more?

[honest knot]

yep

[sacred holly]

The third one I don’t believe can reach

[honest knot]

the extension to the third fan?

[sacred holly]

Actaully I got it

Tight fit

Now the three 4 pins are plugged up

Is it rgb time?

[honest knot]

yea

it should pretty much be the same deal

[sacred holly]

The addr led_1?

[honest knot]

make sure to install it on the APPROPRIATE HEADER

[sacred holly]

And that is

[honest knot]

addr you mentioned

[sacred holly]

Okay perfect

[honest knot]

if the fans supports addressable rgb

[sacred holly]

No idea tbh

[honest knot]

is the rgb connectors 3pin?

make sure to install those gently btw

they're quite flimsy by design

[sacred holly]

Yes they are

[honest knot]

if 3pin install there

ADDR_LED1

if 4pin install only there

[sacred holly]

Alright perfect

[honest knot]

good

if done try out the pc and check if all fans spin + light

[sacred holly]

Just click on the power supply for a sec?

Could you help me with my psu cables too?

[honest knot]

What's your PSU model? Is it modular?

[sacred holly]

Fully yeah

It’s a msi MAG A750GL pcie5 gold

I have most of it in but

[honest knot]

Ok you gotta be very careful there because one wrong cable into the wrong slot will be very bad

[sacred holly]

Uh oh

[honest knot]

Have you checked a guide prior?

[sacred holly]

For the most part yes

This is what I have left

The big boy is already in

The usb

My one atx on the top left

There’s a atx 2 but it calls for a 4 header and I don’t have a single 4

[honest knot]

I see

[sacred holly]

I believe I’m meant to split the 8 into a 4 as per part picker but idk

The 2 6+2 are for my gpu I can see that

[honest knot]

What's your GPU?

[sacred holly]

3060 trio 12g 😭

Don’t judge please

[honest knot]

Why would I?

It's an alright GPU for gaming

[sacred holly]

Idk people say it’s a bad gpu in 2025

Good deal can’t complain

I think I’m almost done w this build actaully

Don’t I just need to figure this 8 pin into the 4 pin?

[honest knot]

I'm checking up the PSU guide rn

[sacred holly]

Alright thank you

[honest knot]

same psu just 100w higher watch this: https://youtu.be/xfqIfT2ot20?si=qy_vI7W5Xd21UUAi

[sacred holly]

Alright

[honest knot]

make sure to never mix and match wires not shipped with the psu, good luck and come back for any extra questions

[sacred holly]

Alrighty thank you so much

[honest knot]

np

circled connector can go into one of these three and i presume you aready have the cpu pwr plugged in already

[sacred holly]

Yup

[sacred holly]

Everything looks great as I just turned it on

No mobo lights or anything

Although I turned it on

Now I have no clue

I have to use my tv rn unfortunately, my monitor comes tomorrow

But nothing is showing up

[honest knot]

is the fans spinning
is the display connector connected to gpu
and is there any post?

oh

[sacred holly]

Fans spinning yes and rgb

I flicked the power supply and it was looking grim I only saw lights until I actually turned the pc on

Idk if the post is bc I’m using a tv but

It has been around 5 mins

[honest knot]

can i see the back of the pc real quick?

it could be that your using the igpu (if cpu has one) on the motherboard port except for gpu

having no post after a first build is extremely common but it should be fairly simple to troubleshoot

[honest knot]

bingo...

thats not the right slot

[sacred holly]

Uh oh

Where shall I place it

Ik it goes in the gpu but

It’s a short cord

[honest knot]

the hdmi cord should go here

[sacred holly]

If I need to make it work I will

Yea I see

Alrighty then

[honest knot]

so check the gpu display ports and look at the shape, gotta match with the cord

[sacred holly]

Should I now turn my pc off and on again?

[honest knot]

you dont really have to

[sacred holly]

I found a way to make it work and I’m blank rn

[honest knot]

it should show a display once you plug in the hdmi cord to the right slot

ok then restart it

[sacred holly]

IT WORKED

Also when I intially turn my pc on the mobo has a orange and red light

And then it stops

Is this normal?

[honest knot]

🎉

yea its normal

as long as it posts

[sacred holly]

Perfect

I’m in the bios now I belive

Believe

[honest knot]

ok, so that means you haven't installed windows i believe?

since this is your first build im guessing

[sacred holly]

Nope

I have it on a drive ready tho

[honest knot]

so it already came preinstalled right?

[sacred holly]

Ah no

I downloaded it through the site on a drive

[honest knot]

make sure the drive is properly listed on the bios before doing anything

i do suggest trying to install windows again via usb stick if possible

if not you're gonna have to try and boot off that drive to start the installation process

[sacred holly]

Also my cpu is at a solid 40

[honest knot]

seems fine for idle

[sacred holly]

Alright so

I’m on the bios now but what am I doing again

[honest knot]

can you take a quick picture please?

[honest knot]

click on the boot tab

[sacred holly]

Okay

[honest knot]

boot option priorities

oh i just realized something

[sacred holly]

That’s the like

Title

[honest knot]

you could enable EXPO

[sacred holly]

Elaborate please, I’m new

[honest knot]

EXPO is a feature that allows the memory sticks to run faster with just one click

[sacred holly]

Alright where do I do that

[honest knot]

go to oc tweaker

accept the terms or whatever it is

[sacred holly]

Okay

[honest knot]

then click on dram profile configuration and take a picture

[honest knot]

click on EXPO-6000

[sacred holly]

Done

[honest knot]

and thats it

so ram perf should be improved dont touch anything else

now head back

[sacred holly]

Head back as in?

This was my boot I’m not sure where back is

[honest knot]

lol

i mean go out of oc tweaker (click another tab)

[sacred holly]

I know lmao

My bad

I’m at the tweaker

[honest knot]

its good i suck at explaining things

[sacred holly]

Nah man you’ve helped me tremendously today

[honest knot]

thanks, anyways we gotta find the drive so im currently looking at the guide

[sacred holly]

Okay

Btw should I have auto driver installer enabled ?

[honest knot]

just leave it alone

dont do anything with those settings

[sacred holly]

Alrighty

[honest knot]

ok now try to head over to advanced tab

and then find storage configuration

maybe the drive might be listed there

[sacred holly]

I was just in that

I think it’s in usb

[honest knot]

you got a usb plugged in?

[sacred holly]

Maybe not

Yea I do

[honest knot]

does it contain the installation files?

[sacred holly]

It’s usb drive my bad

Yep

Got them from another desktop

[honest knot]

do you have an NVME, SATA SSD, HDD installed?

[sacred holly]

Should’ve explained that before my bad

Uhhh

Ohh oh yeah

[honest knot]

ok

[sacred holly]

I have two nvme

[honest knot]

can you click on nvme configuration

[sacred holly]

A 1000g and a 500g

[honest knot]

to confirm its working

[sacred holly]

I’m there

[honest knot]

alr

[honest knot]

what do you see?

Nice nice

[sacred holly]

Can’t click anything tho

But it is there

I’m so proud of myself I thought I was breaking things 😭

[honest knot]

lol

na i just wanted to know if it was identified

[sacred holly]

I see

[honest knot]

ok so what we need to do now

is to boot off that usb stick

[sacred holly]

Oaky

[honest knot]

can you click on the exit tab?

(dont exit bios completely)

[sacred holly]

Also real quick, how do we check if the gpu is in order?

[sacred holly]

And yes

[honest knot]

i mean you are seeing a display, there is no order for gpu

its working

[sacred holly]

Fair point

[honest knot]

but you do have to install drivers once windows is installed

[honest knot]

there should've been a usb stick label on boot override

are you sure the stick is plugged in?

[sacred holly]

Yeah

I although

Might’ve plugged it in after clicking the power button

So should I restart it😭

[honest knot]

that makes sense, it wont work. Yea ok save changes and exit

dont fully shut down pc yet

because of the memory change

[sacred holly]

Alright

[honest knot]

so save and exit and let it do its thing

once it boots back to bios thats when you fully shut it off

then turn it back on

[sacred holly]

Gotcha

I have the windows 11 setup pop up

I didn’t restart it yet tho

[honest knot]

did you save bios settings prior?

[sacred holly]

Oh wait

Yea

[honest knot]

ok good

[sacred holly]

It says on the bottom

Yea I need to reset it

[honest knot]

ok

[sacred holly]

My power button stopped working

[honest knot]

???

[sacred holly]

God bless the reset button

Bro idek

I clicked the button twice and it didn’t shut off

Soft lock trust

[honest knot]

you have to press and hold to shut down

with the pwr button

[sacred holly]

I see

It was different earlier I swear

[honest knot]

ok, once you go back to the bios you click the exit tab, and check boot override again

see if the usb stick label is present

[sacred holly]

Okay

It didn’t put me back in bios

Should I have spammed delete

[honest knot]

yes

whatever key it is to bring you back into bios

[sacred holly]

Oh wait

[honest knot]

i cant tell if its actually booting off the usb

[sacred holly]

So I clicked browse

[honest knot]

yea?

[sacred holly]

Oh wait nvm

Cs o need to boot it off the usb right?

[honest knot]

yes

[sacred holly]

Cs it’s here when I click browse

They changed my USB’s name but that is the one w the files

[honest knot]

ok click it

and maybe open it up

[sacred holly]

Then OK?

[honest knot]

yea

try

[sacred holly]

No drivers were found

Alr to bios I go

[honest knot]

yea

[sacred holly]

Heyyy

It’s there

I believe that’s it idk what else I could be

[honest knot]

Yes

[sacred holly]

Now I’m at the windows setup again

[honest knot]

thats the one

does it look the same?

[sacred holly]

Still says a media driver is missing

[honest knot]

that means the installtion files weren't fully made

do you have a laptop by any chance?

[sacred holly]

There’s two folders actually

Should I try the one that says boot

[honest knot]

try

[sacred holly]

No drivers on either

[honest knot]

ok

i dont know if this is tpm related but im seeing posts that you're supposed to install windows 10 and then upgrade to w11 afterwards

wait

[sacred holly]

Okay

[honest knot]

try changing to another usb port @sacred holly

[sacred holly]

I also saw a video

Okay

Sooo shut down and then swap them

[honest knot]

yes

[sacred holly]

I saw a video where a guy had to install the wifi drivers

[honest knot]

you dont got ethernet plugged in?

[sacred holly]

I do not

[honest knot]

huh... Maybe thats the reason its doing that

[sacred holly]

I have to use wireless, hence my wifi board

It has the antennas tho

[honest knot]

because iirc windows 11 requires online to install

windows 10 does not

idk

[sacred holly]

Okay okay

[honest knot]

ok have you tried swapping to a different slot?

[sacred holly]

I just did let’s see how it goes

[honest knot]

alr

[sacred holly]

I am now missing a folder somehow

[honest knot]

??? strange

[sacred holly]

When I try it says no drivers were found

Must I install wifi?

[honest knot]

if the drivers came with your mobo then yea but i do think you should install windows 10 on your usb stick

[sacred holly]

Should I just try windows 10

Should I use a different usb stick or the same

[honest knot]

yep

the same if you know how to format the drive, actually windows media installation tool will do automatically

[sacred holly]

Alrighty

Same website? Just swap the number

[honest knot]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

yes

download the installation media and fire it up, make sure to properly select "For usb" or something similar when it runs

[sacred holly]

It make take some time

The windows 11 took awhile

[honest knot]

thats totally fine

aslong as it works

ill be gaming in the meantime, ping me if there's somethings up

[manic cloak]

Is there going to be any significant difference with 6000 cl36 ram with a 7800x3d compared to cl30?

[plucky timber]

It's not too noticable in regular usage

[manic cloak]

so 50$ for 6000 cl36 should be fine right?

2x16, instead of spending like 92$ on 6000cl30

I gotta check if this is samsung or not https://www.microcenter.com/product/653727/gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-(2-x-16gb)-ddr5-6000-pc5-48000-cl36-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-f5-6000j3636f16gx2-fx5-black

[plucky timber]

Is it $50?

It says $90 on my screen

[manic cloak]

Mb, I’m buying off of marketplace

And the dude raised it to 60$ 😭

[plucky timber]

Meh

At that point

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yyqrxr/patriot-viper-venom-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-pvv532g640c32k

This is the cheapest kit rn

[sacred holly]

I give up for the night, the damn install kept getting stuck at 98% or 55%

Very annoying

[honest knot]

dang...

thats super strange

[sacred holly]

Yea maybe windows 10 isn’t the way to go

I might just download the wifi drivers and 11 tomorrow

[honest knot]

yep that may be the plan

alright have a good one

[sacred holly]

If you see this, rather do I install the nvme drives from asrock? These searches are getting me nowhere I fear

[cursive wharf]

You can still install and setup Win 11 without a network connection. MS just patched a few of the nicer ways of setup

[sacred holly]

How so? It hasn’t been successful and I’ve practically restarted my downloads

[manic cloak]

I thought anything above 6000 isn't good for 7800x3d + the heatsinks are literally the worst

[weary galleon]

I think 6400cl34 would probably be ok, 6000 or 6200 are the sweet spots but 6400 isn't too far off

[plucky timber]

This

6400 is generally the upper limit of what ryzen can handle

[snow dragon]

A lot of chips cant take it

[manic cloak]

I might hold off on getting the ram till I find a cpu actually

[plucky timber]

You can probably just run the kit at 6000 C30 anyways

[snow dragon]

Yeah good enough really

Or you can do what I did where you get a c32 6400 kit

Then lower clocks and timings to cl28 6000

Unfortunately 26 will not post

Even at 1.45

So its just not happenin

[plucky timber]

I mean

That's still above average

[sacred holly]

@honest knot I have windows 11 on my usb

I downloaded the amd chipset drivers from my mobos site but it still says no drivers were found, what do I downalod?

[honest knot]

have you downloaded the wifi drivers yet?

lemme help find it

honestly im not sure if the usb you're using is corrupted

since you mentioned that windows 10 didn't fully install (stuck on 55% and 98%)

or you can try this method

[sacred holly]

I’m reinstalling windows 10

11 seems like a headache I’ve downloaded so many drivers

[sacred holly]

Shouldn’t be, both are brand new

[honest knot]

well even brand new stuff can be broken

[sacred holly]

Also maybe it’s a connection issue, my windows 11 was stuck at 56% but I swapped wifi bands and it worked again

And then it was stuck at 98% so I left it overnight and it finished

Tbf the computer I have to use is very very slow

[honest knot]

iirc you can install windows 10 entirely offline without any internet

[sacred holly]

So this time I should be good

[honest knot]

yea

[sacred holly]

I think I just need 10 to Actaully install and we’ll be good

[honest knot]

just make sure to not connect to wifi during installation

[sacred holly]

You mean when it’s on my usb? And I plug it in my pc

[honest knot]

well yea

[sacred holly]

ITS WOKEINF

Working *

When should I upgrade to windows 11?

[honest knot]

WINNER

You can upgrade to windows 11 now if you want, it might pop up on Windows update so check there @sacred holly

[sacred holly]

It’s going now

Runs smooth as butter

[honest knot]

Nice is it installing windows 11 or you're just navigating through 10 a bit

[sacred holly]

The 10

It’s installing 11 now

But I only have one storage drive being read

And it’s the 500g

[honest knot]

Looks like the 1tb drive needs a partition that's why it's not seen on file explorer

[sacred holly]

Right okay

How must I go about this

[honest knot]

I'd deal with that after 11 is fully installed

[sacred holly]

Alright

It’s at 82

[honest knot]

Good

By the way did it mention installing 23h2 or 24h2?

Windows 11 24h2 as I've heard performs even better on AMD CPUs

[sacred holly]

24h2

That’s what is installing

[snow dragon]

Chances of nuking goes up 3%

[sacred holly]

What

@honest knot windows is installed, also what app would you recommend for zip files?

[honest knot]

many people would say 7-zip but personally id go for winrar

winrar: https://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
7-zip: https://7-zip.org/download.html

[snow dragon]

Yeah winrar is annoying

[sacred holly]

Alright

Also now, how do I make my ssd a partition

[snow dragon]

search disk management and there should be something like create and format hard disk partitions that comes up

[sacred holly]

I’m there

[honest knot]

you'll likely see an empty disk when you scroll down, and the color will be listed as black. right click on that drive to create a volume

since you mentioned of having 1tb disk it will show as something around 900GB+

[sacred holly]

Yes I see it

I can’t make a volume tho

[honest knot]

yes precisely

right click it

and lemme see options

[sacred holly]

And if I click the disk

[honest knot]

click initialize disk

and then try to see if the options are available again

[honest knot]

Yes

keep it at GPT and press ok

[snow dragon]

[sacred holly]

alrght

and then new simple volume?

[honest knot]

YES

[snow dragon]

We almost there fellas

[honest knot]

you can label it with whatever name

[sacred holly]

indeed

[honest knot]

keep everything else at default

[sacred holly]

ye THta it right

lets goooo

[snow dragon]

[honest knot]

after all this you should be able to see your drive in file explorer

enjoy

[snow dragon]

Also you can change the name in file explorer idk if this matters

[sacred holly]

thank you all especially you sir

[sacred holly]

i see

stuff & things

[honest knot]

no problem oh and once you're done i do what to see your memory speed with task manager

gotta confirm if expo is enabled

[honest knot]

after that i need to see what windows version you're on using "winver" (screenshot only top portion leave out email)

[sacred holly]

beleive it works

[honest knot]

VERY NICE

[sacred holly]

wait

[honest knot]

ok you can delete it

[sacred holly]

the activate windows thing isnt there

[honest knot]

thats good, you're on the latest build

[honest knot]

because your pc probably already has the key for it

the windows key is stored somewhere in the system

[sacred holly]

really?? it asked for a key and said I didnt have one

[honest knot]

or that microsoft knows you've already owned a windows system before and can be migrated

well

it will pop up eventually

[sacred holly]

maybe from the old computer eh?

[honest knot]

but there is a way to fix that

[honest knot]

maybe

[sacred holly]

it was my moms desktop

and i believe she had it

so

and i upgraded to 11 so i just hvae a windows 11 key now or still a 10 key?

[honest knot]

its just migrated to windows 11

no need to do anything

[sacred holly]

perfect

saved a couple bucks

thank you so much man

couldnt have been possible w out you

[honest knot]

no problem, once you get a new monitor make sure to change the display refresh rate

dont want to be stuck at 60

[sacred holly]

oh yeah i have one now

big 200 hz

[honest knot]

have you changed it, and is it gsync compatible?

[sacred holly]

i changed it idk abt gysync

[honest knot]

have you installed the latest graphics drivers from nvidia?

[sacred holly]

no, I think they installed by itslef

i have the controlvpanel

[honest knot]

no that wont do

[sacred holly]

okY

[honest knot]

gimme one second

download this real quick, run it, and send a cropped screen shot https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-gpu-z/ @sacred holly