Moddiy also sells highly flexible silicone cables
#building-and-recc-chat
earnest olive
but yeah i'd have practically unlimited budget for the new build so would be fun to try a proper small build
cyan ravine
Z20 is peak man
Jonsbo quality is top
I get that it's not real sff but it does qualify lol
D32 is just a revised version of it, I'd have gotten one if I had the patience to flip my am4 board
earnest olive
I still have a dead am4 board that I've been too lazy to get rid of
earnest olive
I should probably try to sell it while the parts are still worth something lol
msi b550m pro vdh wifi
boots to windows but just randomly reboots within a couple of minutes of turning on
sometimes faster
no issues staying in bios for an hour though
i put a few hours into troubleshooting it and decided it wasn't worth the time
cyan ravine
Dan A3 fits a lot for being what it is lol
4090, 9800x3d, 64gb, 13(?)TB storage, 1000W psu
360 aio
Didn't even use the side rad
The Z20 can do close to this but with a 240mm aio being the absolute limit
earnest olive
impressive
cyan ravine
140/150mm psu is highly suggested
earnest olive
yeah i'd go for 9800x3d in a new build so 360 aio is completely unnecessary
cyan ravine
If you don't have those then rip, may as well itx truly
cyan ravine
yeah i'd go for 9800x3d in a new build so 360 aio is completely unnecessary
Fr
I just have it spare
Lol
9800x3d def worth it if not used 7800x3d and a good LP cooler
Or tower
Thermalright axp120-x67 can do those chips iirc
earnest olive
honestly 360 aio is overkill for this 13700k
given i'm dailying an undervolt now and the heaviest load it sees is cyberpunk
even if i was shoving multicore loads im not sure how much it would help over a 240 i feel like there's a thermal transfer bottleneck at the ihs
cyan ravine
Some 240's are fine
Like a thermalright or fx240 I wouldn't be worried about a causal 13700K user
Granted it's a new microcode and not old
cyan ravine
Nice
earnest olive
it's nice to not think about ram oc anymore lol
it's kinda crazy how much better this 13700k is than the old one
zenith cargo
Dan A3 fits a lot for being what it is lol
bro got that new york apt case
weak flint
Yeah but you know I was actually thinking about getting a atx mobo with the next 1000 series CPUs and ended up with that qube
Ap201 great but sum about the whole 3d print really got me cause I'm a embedded Dev and having electronics all over my desk is getting annoying way too quickly
analog hearth
Yeah but you know I was actually thinking about getting a atx mobo with the next...
1000 series?
cyan ravine
1000 series?
Yeah you know
analog hearth
man what
cyan ravine
When they release the GTX 1080, 1070 etc next year
analog hearth
Yeah can't wait for the next best value CPU (Ryzen 1600). Six cores and twelve threads in a CPU is nuts
analog hearth
Fr
weak flint
When they release the GTX 1080, 1070 etc next year
Someone knows
analog hearth
I wonder what they’re going to do for their next generation
I’m really old to the point that I remember Zen 1 like it was last year
weak flint
I’m really old to the point that I remember Zen 1 like it was last year
We get it gramps
Good thing u don't remember ww1
analog hearth
Okay new gen
Go figure out how to configure slave and master hard drives then come back to me
weak flint
Go figure out how to configure slave and master hard drives then come back to me
HDD for loosers
Suck it
analog hearth
This guy doesn't get it
weak flint
Where's that one Chinese laughing emoji
weak flint
This guy doesn't get it
I kinda got the racist joke but I know your a little one darling
What a joke
:chinese laughing emoji:
analog hearth
My guy it's not a racist joke 💀
This guy doesn't know about the existance of master and slave hard drives lollll
Look at this new gen
analog hearth
💀
analog hearth
I'm teaching a kid about 90s hard drives
Just wanna be clear with any mods or admins. I'm not talking about racism or the 1800s and all the racist BS that happened at that time. I'm talking about how hard drives worked back in the day
Didn't even mean to imply the wrong thing lol
analog hearth
Sorry mods 💀
weary galleon
I think the mods are probably old enough and know enough about tech to understand master/slave lol
wide drum
time to setup my RAID array
analog hearth
If you knew my age you'd be surprised that I know what master and slave hard drives are and how they work
wide drum
build boi has only been in PC's for 5 years and knows more than just about anyone i know and theyve been in IT for 20+
analog hearth
I'm sure Felix has known computers more than the average person in this server lol
@cyan ravine when did you start building computers? (sorry if you're sleeping)
dusky hearth
If you knew my age you'd be surprised that I know what master and slave hard dri...
mfw the highschool IT course is so outdated that they still taught master/slave IDE drives
analog hearth
That's insane
analog hearth
lmao
analog hearth
That's not that long ago lol
cyan ravine
That's not that long ago lol
It is in dog years
And as you can see by the pfp
I am clearly a good boi
analog hearth
if 5 dog years, that's not even a full year lol
analog hearth
In that case, you're older than 35
cyan ravine
In that case, you're older than 35
No stop
analog hearth
💀
cyan ravine
I'm still young
drifting pebble
dusky hearth
4.5 to be on the nose about it
less than me damn
well, in terms of learning at least, i started learning the more specifics of building a pc like 8 years ago ish?
earnest olive
bruh
this pa120 I bought says it comes with thermal paste
there's no thermal paste in here 😦
now what am I supposed to snack on while I build
earnest olive
bruh it's also missing the Y cable for the fans
I have thermal paste but that one is actually annoying
cyan ravine
Wait wot
mossy venture
Rippp
earnest olive
maybe? the am4 mounting parts bag was torn and the contents were floating around the package
but the heatsink still had the plastic peel on it
cyan ravine
That sounds sus af
earnest olive
anyways, enough of it is there that I don't want to deal with taking it off and returning it
I just hooked up the second fan to the pump header
bricc
ngl the screwless m.2 stuff on this board was way more difficult than just using screws
an overengineered solution to a nonexistent problem
cyan ravine
Is it the twist lock one
earnest olive
yeah
and the other slots are like
a spring to lock it
it starts in the wrong position and the manual just tells you to insert the m.2 immediately after removing the heatsink
doesn't tell you to fix the position first
cyan ravine
Yeah those were on my unify boards
They are annoying af if they start the wrong way around lmfao
earnest olive
first time encountering so it took me a min to figure it out
cyan ravine
I mean, I'm happy for you but why lol
lone flame
gonna be nice to have extra headroom and better cables
cyan ravine
Ah ok
lone flame
i want to actually cable manage better
lone flame
plus i think some of my crashes have been related to my psu tripping
what can 6950 spike to?
lone flame
idk either way i want more headroom id like to try some OC eventually
my longterm plan is highend zen6
unless i find a good deal on 9950x3d when zen6 drops
6950 XT with 11050x3d or whatever its going to be would be insane
ik rdna 2 is now 2 gens old but it still feels like I have a beast of a card
cyan ravine
idk either way i want more headroom id like to try some OC eventually
Just saying you you could run a top end rig on that rn lol
lone flame
Just saying you you could run a top end rig on that rn lol
i dont doubt you lol
god this discord ui is terrible i cant man lol
cyan ravine
I've tried it 
cyan ravine
god this discord ui is terrible i cant man lol
I hate the new text
lone flame
the font is hurting my eyes i noticed it right away
cyan ravine
It's like how people hate comic sans ms
lone flame
how is your 9070 XT btw you never showed me/i never saw it if you posted
cyan ravine
Benches fine. Haven't done anything else yet
Waiting on parts
I can't hear it at full power
cyan ravine
I can't hear it at full power
That makes it better than some of my old water loops
lone flame
Waiting on parts
all new build?
cyan ravine
all new build?
Almost
lone flame
I can't hear it at full power
thats crazy
cyan ravine
You buy a water block for dead quiet operation
cyan ravine
Sapphire out here doing it on air
lone flame
depending on how the market looks in a few years maybe sapphire is my next upgrade
lone flame
XFX has kinda fallen off each gen since rnda 2
cyan ravine
But sapphire does the things xfx does then the things they don't
Sapphire is my favourite gpu manu rn
lone flame
the magnet fans xfx does are sick
cyan ravine
Has been for a while now
lone flame
but yeah sapphire is super solid
cyan ravine
Oh yeah those are nice
lone flame
wish they would do the toxic stuff again
100% markup over msrp if they did toxic tho lmao
an AIO gpu from them would be so cool
cyan ravine
I would buy a toxic
This 9070 is so impressive I wouldn't hesitate on a toxic as long as it wasn't 12vhpwr
lone flame
that would be a microcenter purchase lol
i would just have to go in person
too cool not to for a big purchase like that
zen6 x3d i am planning on going to MC on release if they are insane like some of the leaks r saying
24 core x3d 
cause why not
lone flame
This 9070 is so impressive I wouldn't hesitate on a toxic as long as it wasn't 1...
sapphires only fault this gen was the nitro+ 12vhpwr
the nitro+ cooler design is phenominal
cyan ravine
Agreed
But I'm waiting for a melted card first
Cos both asrock taichi (not nearly as good) and the nitro+ both have direct air over that connector
It may end up working out as an excellent execution (knock on wood)
Not gonna tempt me to get a nitro tho despite that
I did not wanna guinea pig the test if I could avoid it
lone flame
itll happen no matter what but the flowthrough was a great design choice if it was intentional
cyan ravine
It absolutely would've been
lone flame
in my mind they were prob like yeah cut this part out to fit the connector without even thinking about the air
obv way more planning and testing goes on but i kind of find that funny idk
wasnt there an issue with the foam coming loose or smth on the nitro
cyan ravine
wasnt there an issue with the foam coming loose or smth on the nitro
The pulse has packing foam in the heatsink
And it's really in there
drifting pebble
I’ve been looking for some ways to get rid of all my ping and I stumbled upon gaming routers
How do they work
mossy venture
How do they work
Badly
drifting pebble
Oh
wide drum
I’ve been looking for some ways to get rid of all my ping and I stumbled upon ga...
the router is one of the least likely reasons you have ping issues, unless its some old/obscure router
ive spent hundreds on routers and it never changes anything
tawny violet
Only spend for a router if it has a feature you absolutely need
Like having a 5G sim slot for me
(mainly because I can get an unlimited data+unlimited speed plan that has 3 physical SIM cards to have internet on my phone, laptop and a backup home internet just in case)
wide drum
many years ago i bought a $300 router for my 20down/10up internet. odds are your internet is the problem, not the router
tawny violet
@wide drum it's funny tho that having a SIM slot on a router immediately quadruples the price tho
cyan ravine
Asus RT routers are actually kinda good
tawny violet
I don't think any Asus routers have a SIM slot, much less a 5G one
cyan ravine
Shouldn't do
Many support backhaul tho
Same thing if you have a 5g device to connect to it
tawny violet
Backhwat
tawny violet
The issue for me is that the main internet source is disabled at 7pm every single day
cyan ravine
If you bought a sim card reader to go into the usb port of that asus rt above it would be exactly the same thing
At least in principle
The benefit of backhaul is it's any kind of backup net
Whatever you want/have
tawny violet
My idea was
Main router with gigabit-gigabit cable
|
My own router (1 WAN, 1 LAN port with a 5G SIM as backup)
|
6 port 2.5g switch
And then gaming PC, NAS, TV, maybe consoles later
cyan ravine
If you have a 5g router you can just plug that into the asus and set it as backhaul
Then use the main gigabit internet
tawny violet
I don't have an Asus router rn
cyan ravine
You just need to be creative
cyan ravine
Got no idea
tawny violet
But ye that's the alternative
cyan ravine
Or is it spelled Microtik?
My experience with that brand started when you mentioned it
tawny violet
Lol
They're apparently really popular with home lab folks
Like super high-end stuff
cyan ravine
So is asus lol
Like asus isn't the best, but it's popular for asus wrt
Good stuff imo, i get mild hiccups but otherwise solid low latency internet
tawny violet
Problem is that any 5g puck I can get is
-about as expensive as a router with 5g included anyway
And
-don't have Ethernet on it
Or USB actually
cyan ravine
But like you have a 5g router already right?
Just plug it into that
Ethernet or usb, and done
That's it, it's set up physically
Just need to enable backhaul for that port and it literally just works
tawny violet
But like you have a 5g router already right?
not yet
we have like a mfing ISP router
cuz our gigabit comes over cable TV wires
like OLD-school coax
cyan ravine
we have like a mfing ISP router
That works
tawny violet
so like
cyan ravine
🔥
tawny violet
my idea is to have my own router that my stepdad can't just turn off on a whim
and that'll have a sim slot
plug the main ethernet that is already laid to my room into my router
then connect a 6/8 port 2.5g switch to my own router and plug the stuff I have like NAS, gaming rig, TV and so on into that @cyan ravine
wide drum
is your stepdad also paying for the internet?
tawny violet
That way I can use the main gigabit connection during the day and have a fallback on 5G
tawny violet
is your stepdad also paying for the internet?
Sadly yes
wide drum
classic
tawny violet
and no even if I took over paying for it
the router is physically in my parents' room so he would shut it off
wide drum
probably for a reasaon lol
tawny violet
Citing "It's overheating if it's on more than 8 hours a day" as his reason
oh and "It's not designed to be on 24/7"
or the classic "Y'all are online too much anyway, get a life"
wide drum
third reason is valid, the first two not so much
drifting pebble
i thought the gaming router would come with a free internet connection
- close ethernet
mossy venture
i thought the gaming router would come with a free internet connection
No. You pay for internet through a company like frontier, xfinity, or at&t
drifting pebble
No. You pay for internet through a company like frontier, xfinity, or at&t
i already have internet
from my main router
mossy venture
The router just receives the signal from that company
You can't connect another router I don't believe
You can replace the existing one
dusky hearth
depends on the company
mossy venture
Gaming routers are just marketing, no gaming router is the best option for its price point
dusky hearth
atnt you can replace the modem with like an arris safari afaik, and then you can add a router after it
"home routers" are often combo units (especially modern ISP ones, they combine a modem, router, wifi ap, and network switch all in the same package)
drifting pebble
so you cant just turn on the gaming router, find the connection it has on it, connect to it, and use ethernet cable
or
the home wifi
you get on that
dusky hearth
routers (gaming or not) only route network traffic coming in through the network ports, and cant give you internet access without it getting internet access from elsewhere
drifting pebble
i have pretty nice wifi though
its Wifi 6
can wifi speed look slower due to an adapter
maybe thats why
drifting pebble
ookla
yeah
"servers close to you"
i am very close to detroit
but i'm actually in southfield
dusky hearth
assuming that you are using the ISP router, you would want to directly connect the gaming router from the LAN port on the ISP router, into the WAN port on the gaming router
and in the ISP router settings, you change the mode to bridge mode (it may be named something else), which will give all routing and such responsibilities to the gaming router
drifting pebble
multi or single connection
mossy venture
https://www.speedtest.net/
Oh this doesn't check upload speeds
dusky hearth
speedtest does
mossy venture
Yeah use speedtest
dusky hearth
i think it doesnt on mobile without the app though
mossy venture
Oh
drifting pebble
where is speedtest
mossy venture
Just Google internet speed test, the first thing that pops up checks both
I have 386/105 from my phone, wifi 6
My computer is connected to ethernet with a 5e cable, it gets closer to 900/200
drifting pebble
gaming router is a waste of money then
mossy venture
Yes
mossy venture
Gaming routers are just marketing, no gaming router is the best option for its p...
.
mossy venture
Solid internet
i was wrong about my upload speed on my pc
they're both over 900
i wonder if a better eth cable would bring it higher
drifting pebble
ray tracing would only be good for my gpu with FSR
drifting pebble
7600xt
mossy venture
The 7600xt is worse than a 3060 ti
drifting pebble
when i turn FSR and FG on i can get more than 100 frames on certain games
drifting pebble
lowkey i think i made a mistake
mossy venture
We tried telling you that
wide drum
they're both over 900
blocked
mossy venture
blocked
Lol
Fiber internet>
You can buy a used 3080 for the price you bought the 7600xt for
wide drum
yeah yeah
mossy venture
Or a 6900xt
wide drum
in 50 years i still probably wont have any other ISP options than my current one
mossy venture
A 7700xt or 7800xt would be fine with your psu
Or 6800
As long as it's a 2x8 pin model
Since the kyber only has a single 8 pin, because it's a cheap ass psu
mossy venture
Yes, 2 from one 8 pin connector
crimson zinc
still roostBOT
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
drifting pebble
my case came just now
frosty ore
Anyone got experience with the LG 27GS85QX-B? Just saw it on discount for ~200$ but couldn’t find many reviews to it
drifting pebble
Anyone got experience with the LG 27GS85QX-B? Just saw it on discount for ~200$ ...
budget for a monitor?
frosty ore
budget for a monitor?
up to roundabout 300$
frosty ore
right now rtx 3070ti, i5 10400f, 16gb, but im planning on upgrading CPU/ram to either 5800x3d or 7800x3d (changing ram accordingly) and 32gb ram
tawny violet
right now rtx 3070ti, i5 10400f, 16gb, but im planning on upgrading CPU/ram to e...
You will need a new motherboard if you upgrade hole you know that
mossy venture
7600/x performs just as good and is cheaper
frosty ore
You will need a new motherboard if you upgrade hole you know that
yes its gonna be a whole operation
tawny violet
Or used 7800X3D
mossy venture
Or 7500f is $120 from aliexpress and is just as good
frosty ore
basically only keeping the gpu lol
tawny violet
I've seen 7800X3Ds go used for roughly 180 in the past
So if you can score one of them definitely get it
drifting pebble
tawny violet
But try to go like 250-300 at most
mossy venture
drifting pebble
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6WBzK8/lg-ultragear-27gr83q-b-270-2560-x-1440-2...
It's a better monitor
frosty ore
But try to go like 250-300 at most
yeah ive seen plenty of them around for ~300 might find one cheaper with some patience
tawny violet
Isn't that an OLED?
drifting pebble
VA has better contrast and response time, ips has better viewing angles
tawny violet
I can never figure out the designations lol
mossy venture
Do you know what mini LED is
tawny violet
Also consider the Xiaomi IPS miniLED
drifting pebble
Do you know what mini LED is
nope
mossy venture
K
mossy venture
Mini LED Va
mossy venture
You yourself said you don't know what mini led is. Don't say something is better without knowing what you're comparing to.
tawny violet
I forgot the exact name of the Xiaomi
But it's a 1440p 27" IPS panel with a miniLED backlight and a lot of zones
drifting pebble
You yourself said you don't know what mini led is. Don't say something is better...
it's not an OLED
mossy venture
Correct
drifting pebble
I forgot the exact name of the Xiaomi
But it's a 1440p 27" IPS panel with a mini...
a backlight
why do you need it
mossy venture
Mini led is different than oled
mossy venture
why do you need it
Crying
tawny violet
why do you need it
Trollface
mossy venture
Literally every monitor has a backlight
frosty ore
I forgot the exact name of the Xiaomi
But it's a 1440p 27" IPS panel with a mini...
the G Pro 27i ?
mossy venture
Better lighting, better colours, better HDR
tawny violet
Yep that one
G Pro 27i is a pretty good upgrade to the AOC without blowing the bank
mossy venture
How much is it?
drifting pebble
IPS has a better viewing angle though
mossy venture
Ok
frosty ore
the g pro is around ~260 over here so somewhat cheaper than the others actually
frosty ore
around the same price that one goes for roughly 240
mossy venture
Ah alr
drifting pebble
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MbG6Xk
why is the ram so fast
i should've gotten that
mossy venture
This is why you should ask before making purchases
frosty ore
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MbG6Xk
that combination is around ~350 with ~260 for the monitor i guess thats reasonable
should keep up fine with the gpu i assume
drifting pebble
tawny violet
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BycgXL/asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aqa1a-270-2560-x-144...
That's awful
Like the monitor itself
drifting pebble
do you have a source
drifting pebble
so you're just copying info and sending it here
mossy venture
LMAO
I own the AOC mini led
I own an x27q, a solid 1440p IPS panel
The AOC is a better experience with far better colours
Beyond that, using actual, trusted sources like rtings.com is GREAT
tawny violet
The Xiaomi is not a huge jump, but it's a noticable improvement to the AOC BTW
Source: the about 2 hoirs of gaming I did on one
mossy venture
I haven't seen anything abt it so I can't say one way or the other
The koorui mini led has some HDR issues
frosty ore
The Xiaomi is not a huge jump, but it's a noticable improvement to the AOC BTW
well coming from a c24g1 i think it'll be a quite noticable improvement 😄
tawny violet
Oh it's a properly HDR capable monitor with still IPS colors
And the miniLED backlight has full array local dimming so it's not gonna do a bunch of IPS glow stuff
tawny violet
No biggie
drifting pebble
QD-VA vs Mini LED VA
tawny violet
MiniLED every time
drifting pebble
mossy venture
so you're just copying info and sending it here
You lost all credibility with this sentence right here
drifting pebble
it's the truth
if you use a source
youre spewing info you didnt make yourself into the channel
mossy venture
LOL
Its almost like i don't have the resources to buy hundreds of monitors and test myself. Unlike rtings
Looking at third party reviews from trusted sources is literally the best way to know if a product is good or not
analog hearth
RTings is everybody's go-to lol
mossy venture
But you can be salty all you want
drifting pebble
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare
what
is that better than technical city
mossy venture
Yes
drifting pebble
i thought 7600 = 4060
tall shard
feedback on gpu
mossy venture
I still say a used 6700xt would be better
zenith cargo
saw a post saying their 9800x3d idles at 50c and ppl in the comments saying it’s a bit high
is that normal?
mossy venture
That sounds normal
zenith cargo
i’m asking because mine idles around 52-60
mossy venture
Load temps are what's important
mossy venture
As long as it's under 95c you're fine but that's a little toasty, what cooler do you have?
mossy venture
What size?
mossy venture
Also what case?
zenith cargo
they don’t speed up
mossy venture
What size is the aio
zenith cargo
and fan control doesn’t recognize it
mossy venture
240, 280, or 360?
zenith cargo
280
mossy venture
As long as your case isn't a hot box imo it should be running a bit cooler
potent portal
That's the opposite of a hot box if it's able to get the heat out of the case
potent portal
Don't worry too much about your temps, the nzxt AIO is not ideal but should be fine for that CPU
zenith cargo
was it the right choice to skip out on a protection plan for my cpu?
potent portal
The CPU is usually the one part that lasts the longest out of the entire setup
Unless it's just bad to start with
drifting pebble
it's used
i think it's trustworthy
Besides
If you don't recieve the right card
or just a box
Mercari will refund you
use the buyer protection if needed and it should still be under 800 bucks
Its like eBay
More steals of deals
mossy venture
0 review seller i would not trust personally
bronze pier
Hi guys quick question. Is the ram for ddr5 socket differs with intel and amd or it works on both? I am currently running ryzen 5 7600x not sure on the model of my mother board.
fallen sphinx
Hi guys quick question. Is the ram for ddr5 socket differs with intel and amd or...
Am5 always uses ddr5
bronze pier
I mean does the ram have specific model for amd or for intel or it works on both?
mossy venture
it mostly works for both, worst case scenario you might need to change a simple setting in bios for the ram
bronze pier
What do i need to change
mossy venture
you likely won't need to
bronze pier
I am on 16gb’s rightnow
Planning to do 32
I am planning to buy this https://a.co/d/d90zVL3
Patriot Viper Venom RGB DDR5 RAM 32GB (2X16GB) 6000MHz CL30 1.35v UDIMM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit Compatible with Intel XMP/AMD Expo - PVVR532G600C30K https://a.co/d/15hMIIE https://a.co/d/15hMIIE
bronze pier
Its in canadian dollars
drifting pebble
Patriot Viper Venom RGB DDR5 RAM 32GB (2X16GB) 6000MHz CL30 1.35v UDIMM Desktop ...
Don't buy that
drifting pebble
What motherboard do you have
bronze pier
Ya but ver 1.2
fallen sphinx
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yyqrxr/patriot-viper-venom-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-d...
Isn’t 6000-30 better
bronze pier
Pro b650 vc wifi
bronze pier
6000 is the best choice?
mossy venture
it's $10
drifting pebble
6000 is the best choice?
bronze pier
Ya $10 difference
drifting pebble
drifting pebble
Ya $10 difference
You're wasting 10 dollars for a rainbow
It's already overpriced enough since you're in canada
Canadian residents can shop in the United States duty free as long as they are in the U.S. for more than 24 hours. If you're in the U.S. for less than 24 hours, none of your purchases are duty free and you'll need to pay a tax on the goods.
bronze pier
Last question does the ssd on laptop works on desktop? Will it be alright to trsnsfer it?
dusky hearth
Yes, it will work on desktop (most of the time as long as it's sata or m.2)
But you would want to reinstall windows on it
bronze pier
No ill just use it as the 2nd storage
dusky hearth
Yeah that should be fine then
bronze pier
Thank you.
drifting pebble
Last question does the ssd on laptop works on desktop? Will it be alright to trs...
what ssd?
is it a random stock ssd
how much gb is on there
bronze pier
No i bought for my laptop few months ago. 2tb on it
Not sure if it matter if doesn’t have heat sink on it
drifting pebble
mossy venture
Not sure if it matter if doesn’t have heat sink on it
nah it doesnt matter
and yeah it'll work
drifting pebble
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/VHM48d/lexar-nm620-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-30-x4-n...
designed to run efficiently without one
bronze pier
Thank you ❤️❤️❤️
drifting pebble
@bronze pier what is your main ssd
drifting pebble
horrible pick
drifting pebble
why are you overpaying for a mid ssd
mossy venture
he owns it??
drifting pebble
well why did he overpay
bronze pier
I bought it on prebuilt so i dont have a choice they dont show the exact model
drifting pebble
coming from the dude with a $420 7600xt
its better than a 4060
7600=4060
7600 < 7600 xt
i got it because more games will start requiring more vram
mossy venture
7600xt is a 7600 with more vram
it isn't strong enough to use more than 10gb of vram
4060 is stronger than both of them
and even if it wasnt
it wouldnt make the 7600xt worth $110 more
drifting pebble
4060 is stronger than both of them
source
mossy venture
i literally gave you one earlier
drifting pebble
i forgot
mossy venture
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare
.
there was literally a 6800xt for $410 earlier
7600xt is worth nowhere near $400
weary galleon
coming from the dude with a $420 7600xt
💀💀💀
drifting pebble
7600 XT is 2 percent better than 7600 because of vram and OC
Which means if the 7600 and 4060 is almost the same
7600 XT should be a percent better
tall shard
anyone know why 4060s arent 300 anymore
mossy venture
stock
drifting pebble
anyone know why 4060s arent 300 anymore
i gave you a list
tall shard
got everything except gpu
tall shard
looks too good to be true
tall shard
snow dragon
Thats real good considering the market rn
Looks like someone got it already because when I clicked on it I got redirected to one that was 450
drifting pebble
I should’ve just went with a used gpu
I was skeptical about the used market because I thought the performance died down
grizzled leaf
Hey I just upgraded my old PC a bit from a Ryzen 5 3600 to a Ryzen 7 3700x and it posts but doesn't boot to windows, does anyone have any ideas how to fix that?
molten ferry
im looking to upgrade my pc specs. currently have b650 motherboard 32gb ddr5 ram amd ryzen 5 7600x and a 1660 ti powered by a 700w smart series power supply. im assuming my graphics card needs upgraded next just unsure what to go with.
mossy venture
im looking to upgrade my pc specs. currently have b650 motherboard 32gb ddr5 ram...
That power supply is known for killing pcs
I would highly suggest replacing the power supply followed by the gpu
drifting pebble
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bTdG3C/cooler-master-mwe-gold-850-v3-850-w-80-g...
That’s pretty expensive
drifting pebble
Segotep GM is C
mossy venture
Yes
mossy venture
Why save $5 to drop two entire tiers
An A tier 750w is better than a C tier 850
And what's your definition of "good enough"
I would not trust a C tier psu with a high end build. An A tier 850w could handle literally any gpu, including a 4090
rain carbon
I would not trust a C tier psu with a high end build. An A tier 850w could handl...
if my psu aint a bronze gigabyte then is it truly a psu?
after all psu stands for Perilous Safety Uninnovator
molten ferry
After the power supply which I can order tmr what card should I be looking at getting
mossy venture
It really depends on your budget
The new market is finicky atm, a $550 5070 or $550-625 9070 would be decent. A sub $750 9070xt or sub $800 5070 ti would be good
Used, 6900xt, 6800xt, 6800, 6700xt, 3080, 2080 ti are all decent choices
mossy venture
Either get proof of it working, like a video of it powered on showing display, or buy from a seller with good reviews
molten ferry
Thank you
neon condor
@wild sapphire
pseudo pollen
The new market is finicky atm, a $550 5070 or $550-625 9070 would be decent. A s...
$750 9070xt hurts me
steel musk
if you value money like I do, I'd wait
cyan ravine
Fr
manic cloak
Is there anything I can do to stop my pc from “crashing” when I switch tabs on counter strike?
Like another method other than windows tab, cause this recent cs bug fix decides to make my graphics card turn off when I swap tabs on CS, but I can still hear my music/discord calls for a minute and keep my PC on until I forcefully turn it off
mossy venture
Is there anything I can do to stop my pc from “crashing” when I switch tabs on c...
RIP
Degraded 13600k
manic cloak
Is it? 😭
manic cloak
Well it’s only with counter strike
mossy venture
I went crazy trying to fix it for at least a year
manic cloak
Not any other game
mossy venture
It started as only valorant for me
manic cloak
Oh no 😭
I updated my bios but no way it’s that degraded already
it just started too
mossy venture
How old is the cpu?
manic cloak
Dec 2022
hollow gulch
bruh yeah
mossy venture
And do you have a z board?
mossy venture
Yeah
hollow gulch
cooked
manic cloak
I had the bios stuck on 11/30 2022 bios
Never updated it once till way after the news
But then again, could of existed for awhile
mossy venture
You've very likely got a degraded cpu
hollow gulch
run OCCT all core see what the core freq is
manic cloak
Welp is it time to switch to AMD
hollow gulch
or if you get errors
mossy venture
I mean you can rma tbf
manic cloak
They have RMA?
hollow gulch
its 2022 though, how long is intel warranty
mossy venture
run OCCT all core see what the core freq is
Frequency could be normal and still have degradation
Warranty was extended on 13th/14th
7 years i think?
Maybe 5
hollow gulch
jesus
manic cloak
Yk
hollow gulch
Frequency could be normal and still have degradation
i know but if its bad youll see it drop right away
manic cloak
I could of prevented this if I decided not to trade up my 12600k up to 13600k at microcenter for a cent
mossy venture
I haven't rmaed mine because I don't feel like using a 3400g until it comes back
snow dragon
jagged ember
The least they could do after what happened lol
hollow gulch
fs
manic cloak
Should I download a new OCCT if I haven’t touched it since 03/14/24 😭
jagged ember
3 final microcode patches later
hollow gulch
Should I download a new OCCT if I haven’t touched it since 03/14/24 😭
u should just be able to update
snow dragon
What is wrong with them
jagged ember
Nice
snow dragon
You can build a computer with relatively new parts for that price
hollow gulch
What is wrong with them
the x870e taichi is cheaper and better
manic cloak
@hollow gulch
snow dragon
the x870e taichi is cheaper and better
I love asrock
manic cloak
Just benches or stability?
obsidian wigeon
hollow gulch
<@704878613467496468>
multiple avx
jagged ember
Funny number
hollow gulch
do it with stress test not benchmark
manic cloak
manic cloak
extreme variable avx2 fixed
this one is stress and it ain't looking pretty
manic cloak
pa120se with mx6
snow dragon
What the hell 200w
hollow gulch
yeah its degraded for sure lol
snow dragon
for stock settings??
Must be the settings the bios came with
Maybe it ignores intel limits
snow dragon
Please undervolt dawg 
🙏
hollow gulch
its also about amperage
snow dragon
I don't know wtf is up with my pc
I think its the board settings that it came with
How long you had it
Like 2022 right something like that
hollow gulch
yikers
mossy venture
My 13600k was pulling 1.45v at stock settings until it hit 100c under a 280mm aio
snow dragon
I think they finally chilled out but still
mossy venture
Undervolt to 1.12v
See if that helps your crashing
It likely won't, but it'll prevent further damage ig
manic cloak
tbh I thought I was going crazy when I saw my CPU hit hot
like a possible bald spot in the thermal paste cause I used mx6
manic cloak
so just undervolt to 1.12 or should I tweak?
hollow gulch
like a possible bald spot in the thermal paste cause I used mx6
bald spot 😭 this aint no 50yo man
manic cloak
bald spot 😭 this aint no 50yo man
hot spot, bald spot, same thing!
mossy venture
Didn't touch anything else idt
wild sapphire
<@394568060717105152>
I am here
mossy venture
@topaz rose helped me a bit
wild sapphire
where
hollow gulch
I just uved mine to 1.12 i believe vcore
shouldnt they disable HT and keep e-cores on to help
at least as long as they dont need MT perf
topaz rose
<@929166408930189362> helped me a bit
hi you got the wrong jp maybe
mossy venture
shouldnt they disable HT and keep e-cores on to help
It would help performance but not with the degradation idt
mossy venture
hi you got the wrong jp maybe
No you helped me w my 13600k settings
topaz rose
No you helped me w my 13600k settings
oh.. what did i tell you to do
mossy venture
Lmfao
hollow gulch
It would help performance but not with the degradation idt
well it might help stability
mossy venture
1.12v vcore, i don't remember if you had me change anything else
mossy venture
well it might help stability
I tried, it didn't help with mine
topaz rose
wahnna know whats funny
mossy venture
But can't hurt to try
mossy venture
wahnna know whats funny
Hm
topaz rose
i tuned my cpu to use what seems to be 40w less than stock, maintains 5.1ghz boostpclock unlike the default settings where it drops, and it runs cooler
i did better than intel
topaz rose
mf was using dam near 200w
manic cloak
I know
manic cloak
So 100% undervolt to 1.12?
manic cloak
I also realized this might be corresponding with the CS setting that has "use performance cores only"
but that's heavily overshadowed by the degraded CPU
snow dragon
WHAT
topaz rose
thats umm
nowhere near normal
please tell me u was running 6ghz
im bored, i might do a slight OC
mossy venture
Back when I first built the pc in January of whatever year following 13th gen release i went crazy trying to figure out why it was hitting 100c instantly in cinebench r23
Felix and sips had me check the voltage and wattage
Was well over 1.4v and was sitting at 315w under a 280mm CLC
Msi z690-a pro
topaz rose
Was well over 1.4v and was sitting at 315w under a 280mm CLC
i think u degreaded from other means
manic cloak
Okay I don’t know if this is usual
mossy venture
i think u degreaded from other means
?
manic cloak
Okay I don’t know if this is usual
mossy venture
Thats the same issue, improper power limits
topaz rose
i have z790 ersons
topaz rose
wrong spot, use ai tweaker
manic cloak
Ah
snow dragon
topaz rose
idk if mines are good for that off nvm
snow dragon
Just try the undervolt first and then disable ht if needed
snow dragon
Are you pressing the - key
snow dragon
Looks like its adjusted to me
I think its because it hasnt applied yet
Will apply when exiting bios
Thats when it saves the changes
manic cloak
Hopefully @topaz rose can confirm cause you got close enough/same bios
@snow dragon my PC blue screened 😭
This is not good
snow dragon
Increase voltage to 1.15
topaz rose
im playing game sorry
manic cloak
Ya no I’m increasing Voltage to 1.15
Discord froze trying to go here, then blue screened back to my login
snow dragon
Try 1.16
Or 7
Dont think 1.15 would be good enough if you cant do basic things on the computer
manic cloak
I’ll try 1.17
hollow gulch
and disable HT
manic cloak
So 1.17 or 1.25?
snow dragon
Yeah I think 1.12 is because that chip could run it but not all can run that low I dont think
Or maybe because one is degraded less than the other idk
Could be that or better bins
hollow gulch
So 1.17 or 1.25?
1.25 and disable HT
snow dragon
So 1.17 or 1.25?
Try 7 and if not stable then increase to maybe 1,2
manic cloak
I’ll try out 1.25 and disable HT, back down to 1.17 and see
cyan ravine
You run whatever is stable but avoiding reaching or exceeding vmax
1.25 is just a suggestion
Spec is ok until like 1.45 iirc
1.55?
snow dragon
1.25 and disable HT
I guess that improves stability right
I was saying to try voltages first before turning off ht
hollow gulch
I guess that improves stability right
and performance
snow dragon
If not then disable it
manic cloak
I like how my cpu exceeded the limit too :)
snow dragon
When the asus board cooks your processor
cyan ravine
Asus be a sus
manic cloak
Should I just stress test it on the spot or?
hollow gulch
you can yeah did what i say booted
cyan ravine
Sure, unless you wanna back up first
manic cloak
I might want to back up tbh