#building-and-recc-chat

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marsh kiln
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What are some nice looking rgb white fans for a decent price? Need 9 of them

rain carbon
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at that point watch a "how not to pirate tutorial"

rain carbon
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Thermalright and arctic got your back

tender apex
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is the rx 7600 xt better than the 6700 xt?

lone flame
tender apex
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is it by a crazy margin?

wide drum
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pretty sure it depends on resolution, ray tracing, cpu, settings, etc

tender apex
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ohh okay

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thanks

lone flame
tender apex
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better than the 7600 xt by 8%

lone flame
tender apex
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1920x1080

lone flame
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id watch some reviews about it as well, but imo id pick the 6700 XT

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unless you need the vram

marsh kiln
bitter lodge
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Hello

tender apex
weary galleon
lone flame
# tender apex Mainly just getting a new gpu for marvel rivals

Marvel Rivals fps gameplay & Benchmarks.
Don't forget to like and subscribe!! // No olvides dar me gusta y suscribirte!! 🤖

Specs & Settings:

Driver 24.12.1, Low settings, 1080p.
AMD RYZEN 5 5600X
MSI Radeon RX 6700 XT
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32gb (2x16)
Motherboard Aorus B450 PRO WIFI
Samsung 980 pro ...

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tender apex
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i WILL be buying the rx 6700 xt

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already get a weird amount of fps spikes and drops

bitter lodge
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I am building a new PC I got a on sale 1-5 14400 for 120, a A770 after sale and discounts for 200, 2TB Samsung NVME pulled because I upgraded the Ps5, Thermal lake 650PSU and a ASrock B660M Motherboard any other recommendations?

weary galleon
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6000mhz cl30 ram

bitter lodge
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16GB of 3200MT DDR 4

tender apex
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thats solid imo

weary galleon
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Is the mobo a ddr4 board?

bitter lodge
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Yes B-660 is only comp with DDR4

weary galleon
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Oh ok

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If you haven't bought already I'd go ddr5

bitter lodge
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I saw the GPU and CPU on sale at dirt cheap

bitter lodge
weary galleon
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I mean if you haven't bought the mobo yet

bitter lodge
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No

weary galleon
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Those CPUs can use either ddr4 or ddr5 but the perf is better on ddr5

bitter lodge
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I have the CPU and GPU with SSD

stoic island
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Some B660 boards will support ddr5 only, some support ddr4 only

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You'll be able to finder cheaper b760 boards with ddr5 support if you could go for ddr5

bitter lodge
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How much cheaper?

stoic island
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B760 ddr5 boards are around the same price as B660 ddr4 boards, it's just that B660 ddr5 boards are a bit scarce now and the prices are high on those

bitter lodge
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I have seen about 90-100 for the board

potent portal
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You'll sacrifice up to about 10-15% of the CPU performance by using DDR4 instead of DDR5 with the 14400

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Some games don't care about the memory speed but those that do, care a lot

bitter lodge
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Thanks

dusky hearth
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even at a cheaper price i wouldnt want to support adobe
because the cheaper price would still be expensive for the countries that the price is lowered in

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adobe does not care about the little guy

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they will continue to price gouge

severe matrix
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hey guys, i got a question? Is the Phantom Spirit 120SE the best or one of the best budget air coolers? i saw Gamer Nexus's video, but he only measures the Peerless Assassin and not the new model (the Spirit)

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Also, the Artic Freezer 36 seems to be better, but its running at 1612 RPM, meaning its gonna be way louder than 1092 RPM?

analog hearth
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I think from what I’ve researched it can even cool my 13700K if it came down to that

weary galleon
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Granted the peerless assassin already has 6 pipes so idk how big a difference the 7th makes

weary galleon
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Also the phantom spirit is on there

analog hearth
weary galleon
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The loudness is right there in the chart. Both are 25dba

analog hearth
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I'm blind

weary galleon
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Tbf there's something partially overlaid on it

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Browser Fullscreen popup probably

analog hearth
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It's Firefox's "Press the Esc. button to leave fullscreen view" or whatever it says

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This lol

analog hearth
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holy URL

severe matrix
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mb lol

analog hearth
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For future reference: for most links, you can delete everything after the question mark and it'll still work

severe matrix
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ahhh i see

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W tech

weary galleon
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Personally I'd opt for a thermalright dual tower over that

severe matrix
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rlly wait y

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artic 36 got best temps

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does dual tower have lower sound etc?

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or smth

weary galleon
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Yeah idk how I feel about a single tower beating dual

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Also the Arctic duals are like $35-40 so not any more expensive

severe matrix
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hm true idk how it did that

analog hearth
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Technically if you have two fans each attached to two different heat sinks on a single cooler, technically it can be quieter because the fans don't need to spin as fast to cool each tower

severe matrix
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benchmarks dont lie tho right

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unless gamers nexus

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trippin

analog hearth
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Not if they're from reputable sources

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Yeah I'd trust GN

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Probably the best reviewer there is other than Hardware Unboxed

severe matrix
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i see

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What's a good Artic Freezer dual tower then

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not 36 right? since its single

weary galleon
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I want to trust GN but my knowledge of physics wants to question that chart

severe matrix
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or should i just go with the phantom spirit

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lol

analog hearth
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I personally wouldn't know. Unless a techie says here otherwise, I'd just stick to reviews and see what's good

severe matrix
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double > single

analog hearth
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Reddit also can nerd out a response for you if you wanted

severe matrix
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right?

analog hearth
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yes

severe matrix
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unless u guys know a better one at same price or so

weary galleon
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One of these 3

analog hearth
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Yeah I've been thinking about getting a Phantom Spirit for a (secondary) 13700K build

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Also, what CPU are you pairing either of these coolers with?

analog hearth
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Basically all I'm seeing is that these coolers are at a worst-case scenario (that is, paired with a 14900KF) and these two options are still under 70C

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Yeah for a 5700X3D, I'd just pick whichever you think looks best lol

severe matrix
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gotchu

analog hearth
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That 5700X3D gets nowhere near as hot as the 14900KF that's being used for that graph

severe matrix
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and spirit > assassin right

analog hearth
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Yeah if it fits in your case and if you think it looks better. You can't go wrong with it with that CPU

weary galleon
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You could even do a $17 thermalright single tower cooler, that's what I have on my 5700x3d lol

severe matrix
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just gettin double cuz y not

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lol

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gotchu tysm guys

analog hearth
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Somebody might say something different but Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut isn't a bad compound

weary galleon
severe matrix
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Artic vs Grizzly, thoughts?

analog hearth
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ngl idk the difference

weary galleon
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I think mx4 is fine

analog hearth
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Even the stock thermal compound that came with my gf's AIO cools the CPU at ~30-35C at idle

severe matrix
potent portal
severe matrix
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mx4 seems to last longer

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wait

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its mx5

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nvm

analog hearth
weary galleon
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You might see a degree or two of difference between pastes but you already will have an overkill cooler

potent portal
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MX-5 is discontinued, replaced by MX-6

analog hearth
severe matrix
analog hearth
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Duronaut probably

potent portal
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I haven't seen any benchmarks but I'd go duronaut just so it lasts longer without worrying about drying out

severe matrix
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this the cheapest

analog hearth
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Yeah that

severe matrix
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ty guys

severe matrix
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GJGF56L?smid=A2T6N244WTLWGU&th=1

thoughts on the ARCTIC P12 PWM PST case fans? can only use 120mm

languid nimbus
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Arctic usually great

severe matrix
severe matrix
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u guys think that buying high refresh monitors like 360hz+ is even worth, even for competitive games?
usually, you would be used to playing on high fps right, (360fps), but in comp games, there usually times when the fps drops heavily
wouldnt your aim be affected a lot since your so used to high fps?
if so, would it be better to get a refresh rate (mybe 240hz), that would match the 1% lows of games just to play more consistently?

severe hull
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@mossy venture

delicate rivet
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anyone know how I can improve this or get anything for cheaper

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prices seem scuffed rn

potent portal
severe matrix
potent portal
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Humans usually can't tell the difference between those frame rates anyway

crimson zinc
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Over budget, but get some parts used and you’ll be fine

potent portal
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What it means is you don't get incomplete frames and stutter when fps drops

severe matrix
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people say they feel a big difference so idk about them tho

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Gysnc and the like does help in tearing etc.

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But my question is is there any point in getting a high refresh rate monitor if you’re gonna drop fps in games with high-load areas

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You’ll feel a difference big enough that it could affect your aim and stuff, since you’re so used to 360fps on 360hz? now it dropped to 240fps and it feels different?

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Would it be better to just stick with 240hz monitor to ensure that you always have 240fps and your feel of the game is consistent?

zenith cargo
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um my FiiO k5 is displaying a red light

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I unistalled it from device manager because I was having problems

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not its just red

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and cant hear nun

plucky timber
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For me I just play at 60 (90 for fps games) so my laptop doesn't scream when I'm at 300Hz

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I'd say it's noticable

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But I'd also weight it against cost

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The hardware requirement to sustain 360 fps is quite a bit higher than 240

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Now, on competitive games you're probably playing on competitive settings too so it's kinda irrelevant

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But it's still something to think about

stoic island
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Check perfcapreason

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Oh right it's Nvidia only, have to just eyeball temps and voltage and power draw and see what's the limitation

zenith cargo
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@dusky hearth srry for ping but help

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🥲

zenith cargo
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bro arey kidding me

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all I had to do was uninstall fiio control panel

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bro..

drifting pebble
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?

broken barn
serene onyx
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Hey guys

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I need help

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Is this worth it?

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I got 3 free 1tb m.2 sata drives

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And I really don’t wanna spend 60$ for an actual nvme.

plucky timber
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They're m.2-sata not sata-sata

serene onyx
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Yeah

plucky timber
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You don't need an adapter for that

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Just plug it in

serene onyx
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So it will plug into my motherboard?

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And work fine?

plucky timber
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Yes

serene onyx
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Let me try

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Taking out the ol motherboard

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Oh crap

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Wow

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It does fit

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Will it work normally?

plucky timber
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When you asked for an adapter I thought you had 2.5" ssds

plucky timber
serene onyx
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ok going to put one in my main system now

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Awesome now I can use all 600 m.2 drives

plucky timber
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If the ssd has a B+M key it can work generally

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For m.2

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If if fits in the slot

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It probably works

serene onyx
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Ok sick

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How do I check if it does have that so it can work?

plucky timber
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If it fits

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Generally if it's incompatible they make it so that it won't even fit in the slot

serene onyx
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Ah ok

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Makes sense

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Thanks for the help

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Opening up my main rig now

serene onyx
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@plucky timber

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How do I make it show u

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Up

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Or format it

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For my pc

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Partitions?

plucky timber
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Uh

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There is a convo going on rn about the exact same issue so

serene onyx
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Ok bet

jaunty acorn
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Anyone else unable to open Adrenaline Engine even with running it as administrator?

fossil cedar
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When installing the drivers again click the clean install option

cyan ravine
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Basically ^

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?ddu

jolly riverBOT
cyan ravine
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Use this to reinstall

analog hearth
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Uninstall* You'll still have to go and download the latest drivers and install those

analog hearth
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If not, then yeah just run DDU and install the latest drivers

severe hull
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Very near first startup this is my first startup on a new PC. When I built my sons PC I used his existing ssd so everything essentially was there windows etc etc. so with a completely new build what do I expect ?

hoary aspen
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i need Build PC for CPU AMD for GPU NVIDIA

dusky hearth
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So you can skip the ms account stuff

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Here's one premade

severe hull
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So put that on a Usb and simply start up

analog hearth
potent portal
snow dragon
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I want to add a 120 back here because I can fit one. Should I attach it to the cooler or the back of the case

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If I attach to the cooler there is a small gap between the fan and the case

dusky hearth
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I'd say cooler

snow dragon
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True

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Exhaust should be forced out no problem

jaunty acorn
snow dragon
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Oh the next board im getting has a shield over the io so a 120 wouldn’t fit back there

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Hmm

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I tried fitting a fan in front but the front usb cable gets in the way

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Man this tl b12 is weird

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Weird hum when I have the front side on the heatsink, a different hum when the rear is on the heatsink

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Maybe should have gotten the p12 for my tower

snow dragon
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Nvm what I was hearing was actually the 92mm

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Crazy

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As long as you dont have the b12 behind a finstack its really quiet

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We love doing unnecessary cooling optimization

snow dragon
analog hearth
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One on each side

snow dragon
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I have to reroute my usb and sata cables to fit one on the front

analog hearth
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Oh gotcha

snow dragon
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I think im returning this fan tho

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People in the reviews were right

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There is some resonance this fan has

analog hearth
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Ew yikes

snow dragon
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Hope the normal p12 doesnt have that

snow dragon
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I wonder if I could get a second one and have them at a lower rpm to avoid that

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If it happened at a higher rpm then I wouldnt care, but it happens somewhere around 50-60% which sucks because thats where I think a lot of people have their fans set to

weary galleon
weary galleon
snow dragon
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Cheap fan issues pieskull pieskull

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My brother got a p12 max 5 pack and one of them was a dud that was relatively noisy

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Maybe I should get another max and hope it doesnt have the same issues? Some people also had some resonance with theirs too

real flicker
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72 degrees with a 5800x3d and a maybe 4-5 year old aio is there concerning? thats just loading monster hunter wilds

mossy venture
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The 5800x3d is the hottest am4 cpu

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If its under 90c in games, you're fine

real flicker
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true but thats only at 60% utilisation

mossy venture
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Don't trust task manager

real flicker
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its amds software?

mossy venture
snow dragon
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Yeah not all load is the same

real flicker
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tbf only just noticed it only monster hunter so far havent looked at others

snow dragon
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Honestly I think its mh

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They need new coders for that game fr

real flicker
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i quite like it so far aha

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least buggy new game launches ive had in a while though im used to tarkov so anything is less buggy then that lol

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my Masterliquid Lite 240 still going strong then people seemed surprised that its lasted this long

frosty ore
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Currently running (mainly for gaming@1080p):
Intel I5 10400F
Nvidia RTX 3070 Ventus 3X OC
Corsair 3200 DDR4 2x8GB RAM
ASUS Prime Z490M-Plus
Seasonic 650W

I started noticing performance drops on newer games which probably are due to my cpu/ram.. I’m going to swap the current ram for 32gb ddr5, but am uncertain of the CPU. I was thinking of getting a 5800x3d but assume I might as well get a motherboard upgrade as well. Any suggestions on what motherboard would be decent price/value for this setup?

stoic island
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You will need a new mobo if you want to upgrade to ddr5, the mobo choice is going to depend heavily on what CPU you get

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Also, 5800x3d is ddr4 only

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7800x3d/9800x3d etc will be ddr5

frosty ore
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Thanks! I’ll have a look at both these options!

severe hull
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Thanks all especially @mossy venture

snow dragon
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Idk kinda tired of returning stuff amazon probably hates me rn

weary galleon
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I'd just lookup and see if the c12 has whine

formal girder
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Personal experience I’ve had a few bearings going out on the arctic p12s and does whine but so far from me and my partners experience with c12c has been pleasant and no issues yet

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Tho little bit noisier but not a whine

snow dragon
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Forgot to bring it up

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Something interesting about the b12 is that the pingy resonance only happens when changing rpm around 50-60%

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Its not as bad when it sits at a certain rpm

fresh stag
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what's the best ARGB fan hub??

tawny violet
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usually what's built into your case because it's free

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But if you have to buy one

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Arctic makes one that's nice and priced reasonably

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Aliexpress has cheap ones that are just bare PCB but work just fine

analog hearth
# fresh stag what's the best ARGB fan hub??

For an easy solution, you can plug the ARGB connector directly into your motherboard. If needed, get an ARGB splitter. There are some controllers that use the internal USB 2 header but I don't use those

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This is what I do and it works fine

lone flame
severe hull
analog hearth
# crimson zinc Recommendations

For the USB 2 ones? I wouldn't know what's good. I feel like I'll mention anything and everybody will be like "IT HAS BAD SOFTWARE." My girlfriend and my other friend are using Lian Li's L-Connect. But that’s a whole controller you'd have to pay for and I forgot if you can just put normal ARGB connections on it

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The cheap and easy way is to just use the motherboard's ARGB controller with OpenRGB. I suspect though that some (most?) Asus boards have issues with OpenRGB, so just use Armoury Crate/Aura if you have to (almost a last resort sort of thing)

lone flame
crimson zinc
wary tundra
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I recently purchased a 9070xt and I was wondering if I could maybe get by with my 5600x or should I upgrade to something faster.

snow dragon
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What res

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And what do you play

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But I think you should regardless

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But honestly depending on what you play, you might be able to stick with it for a bit unless you are ok with upgrading now

tawny violet
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Honestly OpenRGB is great but I can't get used to it

snow dragon
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If you cant upgrade you can cope by cranking the settings to have more gpu load

tawny violet
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The UI is early 2000s vibe
And it handles clunky as hell

snow dragon
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Maybe

tawny violet
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But I'm gonna have to learn using it cuz I don't think Asrock RGB software is good

wary tundra
# snow dragon What res

Sorry I should’ve said that. I play on 1440p and while I mostly play older games I like to try newer games sometimes.

snow dragon
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Yeah youll be pushing hella frames then

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What did you upgrade from

wary tundra
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3080

snow dragon
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Yo thats huge FlamesBeige

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Yeah you will most likely be limited in some games

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I lowkey think i am rarely cpu limited at times in warframe even though I have a 6600

analog hearth
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And then just use OpenRGB

crimson zinc
analog hearth
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I wouldn't know about specific hardware-based controllers

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Felix might

crimson zinc
tawny violet
crimson zinc
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@tawny violet

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The m100r case has the argb controller. I have the m100a

tawny violet
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Okay so

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What fans do you have?

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And how many?

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Cuz this adds a single 5vARGB connector from a USB port

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Then you can use ARGB splitters to connect all of them together into the controller if you can't daisy chain off the fand @crimson zinc

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Then you can control it with OpenRGB

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It will absolutely be janky as hell

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But it's about the best solution I can offer you

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But it's bound to cost more

crimson zinc
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All daisy chained to 1 connector

tawny violet
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Oh that's cool, then you just need the controller itself

crimson zinc
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Yes

tawny violet
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The AliExpress one should be detected by OpenRGB

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But I can't guarantee it
Cooler Master one doesn't need software as claimed, but IDK how it functions exactly

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These are the options I can find quickly

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You might have more if you dig deeper into USB-based ARGB controllers

severe matrix
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Gotta question, for my Core Reactor II psu, there’s PCIE Cables that are one single one and others that are daisy chained into more , it’s safer to use the single cable ones right? less points of failure/balanced load ?

tawny violet
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It really depends on what card you have

severe matrix
tawny violet
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I'd personally use the single plug ones (primarily cuz it's cleaner that way once you cable manage)

severe matrix
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gotchu

tawny violet
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How many PCIE plugs do you have on PSU side?

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And how many EPS do you use?

severe matrix
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i got the Taichi OC 9070xt, and based on gamers nexus

tawny violet
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It's the 6 pin cable you plug into your motherboard

severe matrix
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it’s a 12 2x6 port

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am i cooked?

tawny violet
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It should be fine

severe matrix
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rlly i heard it burns

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cards

tawny violet
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9070 XT doesn't draw so much power to be at risk

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You'd have to go to like 400w power draw for that

severe matrix
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i see

tawny violet
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5080/4090/5090 territory

severe matrix
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ok that’s good

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i thought this card didn’t have it someone told me

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but o well

tawny violet
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Okay for 12v-2×6

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It's HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to use single 8pin for each slot on the adapter

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No daisy chains there @severe matrix

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And I mean like

tawny violet
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Don't plug one PSU cable into 2 slots on the adapter

tawny violet
mossy venture
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Those should be cpu

tawny violet
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Cuz EPS and PCIE cables look similar

mossy venture
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Send a picture of the cables

tawny violet
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Similar but they're not interchangeable

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^^^

severe matrix
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1 sec i lost the adapter

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tryna find it

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lol

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adap te r on left, wit cables i have on right

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so say it again

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no daisy chains?

tawny violet
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Wait you have a native port lol

severe matrix
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i lied this one

severe matrix
tawny violet
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There's a 12VHPWR port on your PSU right?

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And a cable that had two ends that look like your adapter?

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That's a native cable for the standard

severe matrix
tawny violet
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@severe matrix use your native 12VHPWR

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Yep that's the 12VHPWR

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Look for a cable in the PSU box that has 12VHPWR written on it

severe matrix
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this one right?

tawny violet
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Yup, use that

severe matrix
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say less

tawny violet
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Does away with the whole adapter thing

severe matrix
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hopefully my house don’t blow up

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ahh i see

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so why did they even give me that

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if it’s worsen

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worse

tawny violet
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It shouldn't (Nothing I say is legal advice and I'm not held liable for any damages done to your hardware or home)

severe matrix
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lol

mossy venture
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Did the psu or gpu come with the adapter?

tawny violet
mossy venture
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If the gpu, it's because not all psus have the 600w cable natively

severe matrix
mossy venture
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If its with the psu, idk that's weird

tawny violet
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The GPU has an adapter, but the PSU has native

severe matrix
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was with gpu yeah not psu

tawny violet
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Core Reactor II ATX3.0

severe matrix
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yep

tawny violet
severe matrix
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should i have gotten a 12 2x6 psu?

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oh i see

tawny violet
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12 2×6 is a revision of the 12VHPWR

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It's backwards compatible

severe matrix
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ah i see ty

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it’s not necessarily that much better right?

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just like more protections in it?

tawny violet
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I'mma be honest

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The entire spec is fundamentally bad

severe matrix
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12 2x6?

tawny violet
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But that badness only shows if you draw stupid power over it

severe matrix
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or both in general like having only one cable for power

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Like what is even the reason they made 12vhpwr

tawny violet
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It's drawing a lot of power through very few thin pins

severe matrix
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if it fails more often

mossy venture
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9070xt shouldn't be an issue

tawny violet
severe matrix
tawny violet
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I'm not naming names

mossy venture
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Its a 350w gpu, and it also has a safety feature so if it does die it's easily repairable

severe matrix
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Gotchu

mossy venture
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And warranty ofc covers it

tawny violet
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You're personally fine
But 12V-2×6 is a fundamentally stupid standard

mossy venture
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Its still not as good as just implementing load balancing

severe matrix
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Ok and for full safety, i should hella push it the 12vhpwr right, i’ve seen horror stories and it’s because they weren’t fully seated then?

tawny violet
#

Trying to reinvent the wheel and accidentally making it square

mossy venture
#

Basically it'll commit die if it tries to pull too much wattage from one or two parts of the cable

mossy venture
#

It should be as easy as making it draw power easily, but neither amd or nvidia did

#

I also am not an engineer so yknow

mossy venture
#

Take this with a grain of salt

tawny violet
#

You're unlikely to end up having your card melted

mossy venture
#

I mean you can see if its in fully

severe matrix
tawny violet
#

But other people got screwed before

mossy venture
#

As long as it's flush with the gpu you're good

tawny violet
#

What Bacca said

mossy venture
#

Send a picture of it top down once you insert it

tawny violet
#

Make sure it clicks in and the square part of the connector is flush with the GPU

#

Then ur good

severe matrix
#

got it tysm guys for providing me with the astronomically beneficial advice to not blow up my $3000+ computer 😁

#

i’ll pass down your legacies to future students

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and info

mossy venture
#

Lolol most of what i know I've been told by other people here

severe matrix
#

The ancestry runs deep

tawny violet
#

Like it'd reflect bad on us lmao

severe matrix
#

lmao

severe matrix
#

just finished settin everyting up

analog hearth
#

Yeah looks good

severe matrix
#

noice

severe matrix
#

any reason why?

#

well

#

its 53 degrees celcius

#

so pretty low, is that why?

stoic island
#

Fan curves are generally based off temperature

severe matrix
#

got it tysm

analog hearth
#

Also use FanControl to adjust your fan curve

severe matrix
broken barn
#

@analog hearth

#

yo motor

#

are u free rn

analog hearth
#

Cooking

broken barn
#

@tawny violet are u free rn

analog hearth
#

It will be exquisite 🤌

mossy venture
#

W build

analog hearth
#

Thanks

lone flame
teal dome
#

whats a good 1440p card i could upgrade to from 3070? or do i even need to upgrade if most i do is watch videos and play games like league and hsr? my 1080p looks so bad rn so maybe might get a 1440p monitor

lone flame
#

1440p would push your 3070 harder likely yes

teal dome
lone flame
#

if you make the jump to 1440p and notice you can't turn settings up without big performance drops maybe look into a new gpu yes

#

gpu market is still messy but if you live near a microcenter and can still find one at msrp, 9070 XT would be a big boost

teal dome
lone flame
#

msrp of the non XT 9070 is 549 USD, for 9070 XT it is 599

teal dome
lone flame
#

quite a few options to upgrade from a 3070

teal dome
lone flame
#

overkill as in like price

#

or pure performance

teal dome
#

its moslty just wanting a better picture quality

lone flame
#

ah gotcha

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well in that case id make the jump to a solid 1440p and see how things go

#

if you have to upgrade, upgrade

teal dome
#

makes sense, thank you

lone flame
#

3070 should be fairly solid for 1440p iirc im not super familar with mid range 30 series

tall shard
#

good

weary galleon
drifting pebble
#

Good?

weary galleon
#

I wouldn't call a $400 b580 good

zenith cargo
#

should I upgrade to am5 and get the r7 9800x3d since 9070s are sold out everywhere future proof cpu as well as ram (I own a 6900xt)

#

real

undone dew
tawny violet
#

But if you already have the CPU, might as well

#

Cooler is not that big of a deal iirc

undone dew
#

Thankfully my GPU is already future proofed

dusky hearth
#

"future proofed"

jagged ember
#

New gpu releases in 2 years

tawny violet
#

That's a forbidden word here

dusky hearth
#

maybe it's future proof if you're like 80 years old

jagged ember
#

I think you have a good chance to get to 82

dusky hearth
#

wouldnt need an upgrade for the rest of your life

jagged ember
#

Maybe if you were 90

tawny violet
#

Rumor has it that if you say that particular F-word into a mirror 5 times after 8pm a wild Felix will appear and steal your GPU

#

(For the record this should entirely be taken as a joke without any seriousness behind it)

dusky hearth
#

no this is real

tawny violet
cyan ravine
#

It is if you ping me

tawny violet
#

Lmao

#

Forgot about the ping yes

rain carbon
rare plover
#

Hi guys, im planning to build my first pc soon and i wanted to ask if this is an ok build

tawny violet
#

Go with a B650 or B650E motherboard, they're cheaper for the same or more features

#

Memory should be 6000 CL30 to guarantee Hynix dies

rare plover
tawny violet
#

PSU is an unknown to me
Case is weird

tawny violet
#

8700G is meant to be used without a dedicated GPU

#

PCIE is cut down a lot

rare plover
#

Ik but they dont have that

tawny violet
#

Do they not have a 7600? Or a 7600X?

rare plover
#

no

tawny violet
#

I'd recommend finding a better store then to be entirely honest

#

Like no offense, I know what it's like to have to make due with what you can get

#

But I'm almost sure there's a better option

rare plover
tawny violet
#

That's just fine

#

It all depends on pricing to be clear

#

But the 7700X tends to be cheaper than the 8700G

#

And have better PCIE and so on

rare plover
#

8700g is cheaper here idk why

tawny violet
#

What's the difference?

#

Is it like 20-30% cheaper?

#

And I'm assuming this is a new build, you don't have any of the parts yet?

rare plover
#

Like 30 dollars

rare plover
tawny violet
#

Okay what do you have on hand right now?

rare plover
#

nothing really

#

just planning rn

tawny violet
#

So it IS a new build then

rare plover
#

yes

tawny violet
#

Alright then

rare plover
#

Wait i meant no for the other thing

#

Sorry

tawny violet
#

What's your budget?
Do you need peripherals too? (Monitor, mouse, keyboard and so on)
Do you have any particular things you know will do on the PC?

tawny violet
#

Do you have any parts already?

rare plover
#

No

tawny violet
#

Alright

#

So you're starting from scratch then

#

We can work with this

#

I'm assuming you want to play games right?

rare plover
rare plover
tawny violet
#

Any 3d modeling in that schoolwork?

rare plover
#

no

tawny violet
#

Awesome

#

Then do you mind going all AMD?

#

I don't think you do considering you were already gonna

#

Just want to confirm

rare plover
tawny violet
#

I mean that's completely fair, it's the value option rn

#

What resolution are you gonna play at?

rare plover
#

1440p

tawny violet
#

Aite that's respectable

#

What's your budget?

#

Preferably both in your own currency and converted to USD

rare plover
#

around 6k local currency for the build, but thats probably less in usd since tax and whatever

tawny violet
#

I believe you're from Israel?

rare plover
#

yea

tawny violet
#

Alright I don't really know the market there

rare plover
#

i am using ksp currently

tawny violet
#

But we can work with this

#

What's the tax rate?

rare plover
#

17% I think

tawny violet
#

Aite

rare plover
#

i was told to take gold for the psu

#

and thought of saving a bit with storage and ram, since i can buy more later?

tawny violet
#

That's about 1400 USD (with the reduction for taxes)

rare plover
#

yea

tawny violet
#

Aite I think we can make it work

#

I'd think a 7600X, the cheapest 2×16gb kit of DDR5-6000 CL30, B650 motherboard and a 7800 XT

#

That's probably a good place to start

tawny violet
#

It should leave us with about 300 bucks for a power supply, storage and other stuff

tawny violet
#

Exact chip I have

#

It's a rocketship in games

rare plover
#

neat

tawny violet
#

You can also try to get a 7500F (which is pretty much the same CPU without the integrated GPU cores for cheaper)

rare plover
#

alr

tawny violet
#

If you can get a good price on one it's a good way to minmax budget

tawny violet
#

Ryzen 5 7500f

rare plover
#

intel also works for the cpu, but i would like an amd gpu

tawny violet
#

Interesting pick

#

Respectable

#

I'd like to make AM5 work for you tho

tawny violet
#

You can just drop in an X3D chip later and get massive gains

tawny violet
#

Waste of money on a 7800XT

#

Absolutely cheapest 7800XT is gonna give you the same performance

rare plover
#

what about a 7700 xt nitro

tawny violet
#

Even worse

rare plover
#

?

tawny violet
#

That's perfectly fine

#

Pulse is good

rare plover
#

ok

tawny violet
#

Doesn't have to be Sapphire tho

#

XFX, Powercolor, ASRock and Gigabyte all make 7800XTs

rare plover
#

ik

tawny violet
#

Lmk which model is the cheapest

#

Like there lol

#

Should've clarified

#

I've had a 10 hour shift at work and then drama at home I'm really not at my A-game rn

rare plover
#

i will take sapphire

tawny violet
#

Just lmk which is the cheapest

#

We'll work our way up from the cheapest parts to more expensive ones

#

I'd like to fit a 7900XT in for you

#

But we need to know what's possible

rare plover
#

theres an acer nitro one but i dont know that site

tawny violet
#

So just add THE absolute cheapest 7800XT to your list along with the other parts I said

#

And see where it lands us with price

rare plover
#

alr

tawny violet
#

We'll adjust from here once I have a picture with pricing

tawny violet
#

960+2480+745+579

#

4770

#

Rounding up for the sake of safety

#

Leaves us with right about 20% of the budget for a case, power supply and SSD

#

Sadly I don't know what PSUs are available for a solid price there that's legitimately good

#

But a PSU being "gold" in itself doesn't mean anything

#

@rare plover there's an Excel spreadsheet linked somewhere in the server with a PSU tier list

#

Lemme find it for you one sec

#

Once I found it
Look for 750 watt Tier A units in the list and find the cheapest, add to the list

#

Find whichever 750w Tier A is cheapest for you and add that to the list

#

Then all you need to do is find an ATX case that has entire front mesh and at least 3 fans
And you're peachy

tawny violet
#

I'd prefer A tier but that's just me

rare plover
#

alr

tawny violet
#

It's a potential compromise we can make later if need be

#

We're like ultra minmaxing it for you lol

rare plover
#

ok i found one

rare plover
#

also what about a cpu cooler

tawny violet
tawny violet
#

You CAN get away with a single tower one

#

That's what I have after all

#

But having some extra capacity don't hurt

rare plover
#

alr

rare plover
#

MSI MPG GUNGNIR 300P AIRFLOW Mid Tower

tawny violet
#

Hard no

#

Overpriced and not even front mesh

rare plover
#

oh right

tawny violet
#

That's not an "airflow" case lmao

#

Try Montech

rare plover
tawny violet
#

Air X is surprisingly good

#

The one with three 140mm ARGB fans is even better

#

Though you did pick an mATX board

#

I'd recommend ATX cuz you have more expansion

#

Also fills the case out nicer

tawny violet
rare plover
tawny violet
#

Corsair?

#

4000D should be available

#

Though it's bound to be overpriced

#

IDK I'm not an expert on good cases

#

Felix or Bacca might be able to help you out on that front better

rare plover
#

are fishtanks ok or whatever its called

#

like

#

side panel is glass and a bit of the front panel is also glass

tawny violet
#

Could be

Expensive tho

#

Tempered glass costs a lot to make

rare plover
#

i'll take the sharkoon one

tawny violet
#

I really wouldn't

#

It's frankly
Pretty bad

rare plover
#

the company in general or the case i picked out?

weary galleon
tawny violet
#

Montech is not an option cuz Israel doesn't get them

weary galleon
rare plover
#

is the Antec A30 NEO PWM ok for the cpu?

tawny violet
#

Any really

#

Should have fans tho

tawny violet
rare plover
#

ok

tawny violet
#

Cooler Master Elite 301 has to be available

weary galleon
#

Or just get a case without fans and add a $13 3pk of thermalright c12c

tawny violet
#

That could work but I dunno if Thermalright is a thing there

#

So I'm trying to steer clear of unknowns

rare plover
#

wait

#

is corsair 4000d okay

tawny violet
#

It's fine but expensive

#

And doesn't come with any fans

#

I mean
It TECHNICALLY does have 2

rare plover
#

120 usd

tawny violet
#

But like they meh

tawny violet
#

1400 USD 1440p rig isn't where I'd go 4000D

#

You CAN

#

It is an option

#

But like

rare plover
#

antec fridge case?

tawny violet
#

It'd swallow most of your remaining budget

tawny violet
rare plover
#

yea its weird

#

also is that a cd slot

tawny violet
#

Thermal throttling here we come

#

But yes

#

CM 301 Elite is a good pick

rare plover
#

what about this corsair one

tawny violet
#

That's just the new 4000D

#

Costs even more

rare plover
#

its 3000

#

3000d

#

96 usd

tawny violet
#

Still expensive cuz only 2 fans

#

It could work but

#

It'd be wacky

#

If you're okay with having only two intake fans, it's fine enough

rare plover
#

i have a fan from my uncles old pc it just sat in my drawer for like 3 years

tawny violet
#

Can always buy more fans later

rare plover
#

and a ddr 3 ram stick lol

tawny violet
#

Lmao

#

Treasure trove

#

Anyhow

#

3000D is a sort of safe bet

#

I'd still check for the Elite 301

#

That's much better value

rare plover
#

alr

tawny violet
#

Leaves us wiggle room on the storage and CPU cooler

#

30 dollar equivalent dual tower aircooler would be perfection

rare plover
#

alr

tawny violet
#

Then we see what we have left

#

We might have to cut down to 512 gigs of NVME for starters
And upgrade later

#

We'll see how everything pans out together

rare plover
tawny violet
# tawny violet 4770

This is CPU, motherboard, memory and GPU
You have storage already
So that leaves cooler, case and PSU

#

Did you figure out what's the cheapest 750w A tier unit you can get?

#

That's what you want

rare plover
#

i found an antec one rated b, didnt find any a tier

tawny violet
#

We'll take it for now

#

How much is it in shekels?

rare plover
#

415

tawny violet
#

4770+415

#

5185

#

Just about 800 shekels for case and cooler

rare plover
#

the 3000d is 350 nis i can get that

tawny violet
#

That's kind of reasonable ngl

#

That's easy with the cooler

rare plover
#

i can buy some stuff in eilat

#

theres no tax there for some reason

tawny violet
#

Alright that's not the direction I thought things would take but

#

That's fine

#

Take that 3000D, and try to find a dual tower cooler that's within the budget

rare plover
tawny violet
#

And you have your rig

You'd have to assemble of course but Linus has the guide for it

rare plover
#

i need thermal paste too right

tawny violet
#

It comes with the cooler

rare plover
#

oh

tawny violet
#

If it's brand new and I assume you do all new parts

#

Then paste comes with the cooler

#

Technically

rare plover
#

ok

tawny violet
#

You COULD go AIO and use it as the intske

#

But like

#

7600X and AIO feels wasteful

rare plover
#

gonna make a table now and go eep

tawny violet
#

Fair
I should do the same anyways

rare plover
stoic island
#

Yes, they're not backwards compatible, ddr5 is physically different from ddr4

rare plover
#

ah

#

we forgot the ssd btw but gn

dusky hearth
#

every ram generation so far (at least since SD ram, that's as far back as i know) is not forwards nor backwards compatible
though you can adapt SODIMM ddr5 to (U)DIMM ddr5 (as well as the previous generations)

rare plover
#

alr thanks guys

zenith cargo
#

I can get it at msrp, there's plenty in stock at mc

#

oh wait they're in stock at newegg and best buy

#

💀

gentle pollen
#

I am on a MSI X670-P WiFi board. Once my board stops flashing from using the Flash Bios button do I just restart it with peripherals plugged in?

mossy venture
vague oracle
#

Anyone have any clue why my screen keeps flashing black every few seconds? Already DDU'ed and installed new drivers

#

Fresh build

stoic island
#

But flashing black every few seconds also sounds like something might be weird with the cable

vague oracle
#

Nvm it's the monitor being funny, tried it on a different monitor and it's working fine

#

But yeah its a 4090

zenith cargo
weary galleon
#

What gpu do you have?

#

Also not sure if 5600x3d to 9800x3d would be quite that much even. Base 5000 series to 9000x3d maybe.

zenith cargo
weary galleon
#

You might see a boost in games that are lighter on the gpu but I wouldn't expect a jump in everything

zenith cargo
#

Will I see a boost in overall pc performance

#

like everyday tasks or will it remain the same?

mossy venture
#

Wdym by every day tasks

#

Heavy workloads yes

#

But regular pc usage probably not

rain carbon
#

basically that performance only means anything if theres stuff that already doesnt go smooth for you or needs an extra edge, if theres nothing you can even pinpoint lacking in perf it probs isnt worth lol

#

because you'll be paying much more that just a new chip, youre paying for a new platform obv

severe matrix
#

is it safe to use electronic air dusters to clean my pc/gpu? anything i should know?
im thinking of getting the AC-27 based on tests
https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Duster-150000RPM-Cordless-High-Speed-Compressed/dp/B0DV4BX8RH

https://youtu.be/X_ncYXk1cP4?si=VBTpn2dBLYzyYOrJ&t=1068

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broken barn
#

e

#

ram cannot be this hard

vocal hare
#

It’s not man

dusky hearth
broken barn
#

like bruh

#

i’ll rec a vid

vocal hare
#

Please

#

Watch the video

broken barn
dusky hearth
vocal hare
dusky hearth
#

And oc isn't difficult either, it's just trial and error

#

But everything else is just lining it up, pushing it in, and clicking a button in the bios

broken barn
#

plez watch the video i see nothing wrong with what im doing cirrrntly

cyan ravine
#

@broken barn this vid is made you take you through step by step. Watch this vid in the reply^

vocal hare
#

He’s gonna have a heart attack with the latch

cyan ravine
#

Here I'll even link it again

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vocal hare
#

POV vid might be better

cyan ravine
#

It's chaptered so you know what to look at

vocal hare
#

True

rain carbon
cyan ravine
#

Just watch the vid

#

Observe

#

Understand

#

Embrace

vocal hare
rain carbon
#

put pressure on the ram on both sides until it clicks and the latches on the sides raise

#

you'll hear the audible click

#

just dont break it sideways lol

vocal hare
cyan ravine
rain carbon
broken barn
rain carbon
vocal hare
cyan ravine
#

Lol

rain carbon
broken barn
#

boom

vocal hare
cyan ravine
#

You lads are gonna make so much more work for yourself when this is what the vid is for 😂

vocal hare
#

Harder

cyan ravine
broken barn
rain carbon
#

those latches

#

evil little things

vocal hare
#

Clips still ain’t in

broken barn
#

harder?

#

i’m gonna like

vocal hare
#

Yes

broken barn
#

bend the pins

#

behind

cyan ravine
#

AHAHAHAA

broken barn
#

the motherboard

rain carbon
#

you aint gon break it

broken barn
rain carbon
#

genuinely got an audible laugh outta me

broken barn
#

ok i actually did it

vocal hare
broken barn
#

YOOO

#

I WAS JUST SCARED ABOIT PRESSURE

#

YOOOOO

#

LOL

rain carbon
#

it aint like paper fragile

#

lmao

vocal hare
#

My god the latch is gonna give him a aneurysm

broken barn
#

alright time to get the cpu

#

wait actually

#

lemme do the nvme first

rain carbon
#

i be installing ram like a lone ranger, blink and its installed

vocal hare
#

@cyan ravine that wegg drop today

cyan ravine
#

Remember to use the video !!!

rain carbon
#

!!!

broken barn
cyan ravine
broken barn
#

wish me luck

rain carbon
cyan ravine
#

I was asloop

rain carbon
#

use the slot with a ssd heatsink

rain carbon
#

look at your mobo manual if you need to find that

cyan ravine
rain carbon
#

m.2 slot

cyan ravine
#

Wah happen

vocal hare
#

Reaper on Amazon has bumped up to 700

#

I riot

rain carbon
cyan ravine
rain carbon
cyan ravine
#

Wtf is up with tsmc and like what feels like some smooth 5head making 1 wafer a day

#

Like this HAS TO BE more than just scalping rn

#

So little desktop stock

rain carbon
#

Im fixing to involve myself in a more.. traditional type of scalping

cyan ravine
broken barn
#

actually wait idk how to install heat sink

rain carbon
#

Ye vikingr awaken neath

cyan ravine
#

Just keep it spare

broken barn
cyan ravine
broken barn
cyan ravine
#

Watch the vid to see how they install it

rain carbon
#

Think stock cpu cooler versus dedicated

#

Make sure to peel off that plastic too

#

Actually same for when you get to the cpu cooler

cyan ravine
#

Vid explains this...