building-and-recc-chat

[stoic island]

Did you update to windows 11?

[fair raven]

ok team, all is good. Thank you very much for the help.

[mossy venture]

What fixed it?

[fair raven]

new psu

[mossy venture]

Oh makes sense

Glad you got it working

[fair raven]

yeah 🙂 Me too. I'm glad nothing else died with it too lmao.

[mossy venture]

Dead psus are always scary

[winged prawn]

Sorry this is late but yes

I have updated to windows 11

[stoic island]

may have to reinstall everything separately again

if you downloaded 7zip before, I'd remove the app and install again

[shut rampart]

any white psu I can buy I really wanted sleeve cables but it seem it doesn't work out

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LPBzK8/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5-white

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h4qNnQ/lian-li-edge-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-eg0850g-white

[shut rampart]

should i buy a white mobo while im at it

or my mobo is fine

[mossy venture]

Send the list?

Pls

[shut rampart]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WQXTHW

850 or 1000 for future proof i guess

[mossy venture]

You won't see the black much, the only other white options I suggest are
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/V7tLrH/msi-pro-b650-a-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b650-a-wifi

Only if you need white pcb
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vHNscf/asrock-b850-steel-legend-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b850-steel-legend-wifi

[mossy venture]

Yeah, gv1000 was $110-120 for a good while but oos sadly

Cheapest white 1000w now
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kDvD4D/corsair-rm1000x-shift-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-side-interface-atx-power-supply-cp-9020275-na

[shut rampart]

well i have it already built but just want all white lol

[mossy venture]

Oh there's this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/X9XV3C/thermaltake-toughpower-gf-a3-snow-1050-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-1050fnfagu-n

[shut rampart]

come with white cable right?

[mossy venture]

Yep

[shut rampart]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/674899/gigabyte-b650-aorus-elite-ax-ice-amd-am5-atx-motherboard

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vHNscf/asrock-b850-steel-legend-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b850-steel-legend-wifi

which one

[mossy venture]

Uhhh

[shut rampart]

or is it the same

[mossy venture]

Prob the steel legend

It won't make much of a difference but you get an extra m.2 and wifi 7

And i think a better imc

[shut rampart]

I will just keep my other mobo, too lazy to remove everything out, I will buy the 1050w psu

anything I should upgrade or plan to upgrade or everything in that list is fine

[cyan ravine]

Stop

GF A3 now bomb

@shut rampart do not buy gf a3

[shut rampart]

so buy what lol

[cyan ravine]

Any other suggestion he made

[shut rampart]

sleeve cable doesn't like my psu

[cyan ravine]

Le sadge

RMe 2025 is good

@shut rampart https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h4qNnQ/lian-li-edge-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-eg0850g-white

[shut rampart]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kDvD4D/corsair-rm1000x-shift-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-side-interface-atx-power-supply-cp-9020275-na

or

https://www.microcenter.com/product/680640/lian-li-edge-1000-watt-80-plus-platinum-atx-fully-modular-power-supply-white

[cyan ravine]

Cheapest one I can dee

[shut rampart]

yeah

[cyan ravine]

You don't need 1000

I have much worse specs on 1000W

[shut rampart]

oh

[cyan ravine]

850 max

This is the cheapest nicest I can see

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h4qNnQ/lian-li-edge-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-eg0850g-white

[shut rampart]

I wonder if I buy a new psu and plugin the sleeve cable would it work

[mossy venture]

U told me the snow was safe:p

[wild oxide]

lol both the ram and the mobo are part of the bundle with the cpu

[cyan ravine]

I do not remember this

Cos I def remember saying it was a bomb

Lol

[potent portal]

Well I guess that explains why it's cheap

[mossy venture]

We had a convo a while back abt it just being the regular gf a3 not the snow, I could be misremembering

Not saying you're wrong just pulling your leg

[cyan ravine]

No, the extensions aren't compatible

[shut rampart]

Would it fit

[cyan ravine]

Hmmm

[cyan ravine]

It'll fit

[shut rampart]

What u mean can’t compatible?

[cyan ravine]

C5 fits up to 240mm

[cyan ravine]

You can't just plug extensions straight into a psu

They jumble up the pins

It'll blow up the pc

[shut rampart]

No the psu cable to the sleeve

[cyan ravine]

Oh that

Uh

I mean you can try?

[shut rampart]

I wonder if it’s a psu problem lol

[cyan ravine]

If you keep having consistent issues with it I dare wonder

[shut rampart]

Yeah I’m going to try after I buy it

[cyan ravine]

Have you tried changing the psu cables instead

[shut rampart]

No

[cyan ravine]

Try

[shut rampart]

I don’t have white cable laying around

[cyan ravine]

If you have spares it might do something

[mossy venture]

Oh felix, if I forgot to plug an ssd in and turned a pc on plugged in to a TV, it should still boot right?

I tried two different tvs and then realized I forgot to plug sata power in

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Just won't detect

[mossy venture]

Hm weird

[shut rampart]

Welp time to buy a new psu

[cyan ravine]

Nice to see the edge is a good price

@mossy venture it's basically AGL with 180mm limit, sleeved cables

Worth the $30 extra easy

Good unit like we hoped for

[mossy venture]

Nice

People have been saying agl has a loud fan

Wonder if the edge is quieter

[cyan ravine]

Go check the hwbusters review of it. He says it's quiet running

[mossy venture]

The edge or agl?

[silent olive]

Hey anyone with Lian Li O11D Evo RGB case in here that can help me?
I'm trying to put the larger top panel back on, and I can't seem to get it to fit. It starts to slide on right, and then gets stuck on something maybe a centimeter short of being on all the way.

Can I send pictures in this chat?

[thorn mural]

best budget $50-60 m.2 nvme?

1tb should be fine

[weary galleon]

I believe either Teamgroup mp44 or Klev cras c910

[weary galleon]

Yes

[silent olive]

Ok cool, I'll send pics of the issue in a second

[weary galleon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6WRVGJ

Not sure if mp44 Q or L is better but I think I've seen the Q reccomended more

[plucky timber]

MP44 > MP44Q > MP44L

[thorn mural]

Thanks guys

[plucky timber]

Apparently the 44 and 44Q has the same controller

[weary galleon]

Any idea where the Cras comes in? I saw someone reccomend it here a few times

[plucky timber]

No idea sorry

[weary galleon]

No worries

MP44Q is more than enough for a gaming rig anyways, and priced very close to the c910

[plucky timber]

Iirc it's a mid range nvme

So it's good enough for 99% of use cases

It's priced pretty competitively

[weary galleon]

Nvme's being back around $50/tb is nice

[potent portal]

MP44Q goes up to 7400 read, it's pretty decently high end

[thorn mural]

Whats with these "style" options on amazon

[plucky timber]

Really it's up to high end?

Damn

44Q is just the 44 with QLC right?

[potent portal]

7400 read, 6500 write, so not quite a high end but pretty close

[weary galleon]

Q is TLC at least according to pcpp

[plucky timber]

I'd take that over a 980 every day

[thorn mural]

This is for the 44Q btw

[plucky timber]

hmm

[weary galleon]

Oh teamgroup site says it's QLC

Klevv Cras c910 According to their site:
sequential
Read 5,200 MB/s
Write 4,800 MB/s
"Strictly-selected 3D TLC NAND Flash"

[manic cloak]

Is there a computer or a mini prebuilt that can beat the Mac mini in like musics (Logic Pro/garageband) and similar things? Kinda like google docs or Microsoft excel?

Cause I’m having a hard time finding specs that go up against the M4 chip

[plucky timber]

Not if you want it to cost less

If the application is optimised for the M4 it's very powerful

It's competitively priced too

By apple standards

[manic cloak]

Well it’s 500$ with edu discount

[plucky timber]

👀

[analog hearth]

Worth it

[manic cloak]

Idk if it could be cheaper through school

[analog hearth]

I use mine for AI

[plucky timber]

Great homelab machine tbh

[manic cloak]

It was planned for at home, but my dads “portable” computer too

[analog hearth]

oh no

[weary galleon]

I've seen it on sale for $500 before. Was on best buy though so edu discount probably wouldn't be there

[analog hearth]

not the "portable M4" setup

[manic cloak]

Well it’s from home and to his work

[plucky timber]

Can it run off usb pd

[manic cloak]

And its not like international work or whatso

[weary galleon]

Pretty sure M4 is unbeatable for the price as long as 256gb is enough for you

[manic cloak]

Oh the ssd we can fix

It’s just a m.2 2230

[weary galleon]

Nope

[analog hearth]

I think it's semi proprietary

[manic cloak]

Is it?

[potent portal]

No no no no

[mossy venture]

everything apple is proprietary

[analog hearth]

However...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLtE2kMTVOQ&t=768s

[weary galleon]

There are places you can buy a modded drive replacement, but it is NOT a normal m.2

[potent portal]

They don't have a controller on the stick for the drive, it's in the CPU

[manic cloak]

External ssd enclosure?

[analog hearth]

This is what I would do. idc to open my Mac Mini

[weary galleon]

Yeah you can use external storage if you don't mind

[analog hearth]

Jeff Geerling (reputable source) used this to upgrade his drive. 2TB for $300
https://store.m4-ssd.com/products/2tb-drive-for-mac-mini-m4

[potent portal]

Fully proprietary except for the interface, which appears to be the same as M.2 but it's not

[analog hearth]

yeah you mentioned that the controller is on the CPU and I'm like "oh that makes sense" loll

[potent portal]

Yep nothing but NAND packages on the stick

[analog hearth]

Your CPU dies, the whole system dies lmao

[manic cloak]

I was wondering what that lil white spot in the middle of the m.2 too was

But ya I was looking into the guts of the mini

Although the heatsink is small, it’s not like it’s a thermal power house

Though it looks aluminum heatsink

While the m4 Pro has copper and aluminum

[weary galleon]

Apple rates the base m4 chip at 65W max

M4 pro goes up to 140

As long as it's on a solid surface I wouldn't worry abt thermals

[plucky timber]

Put a PA120 on it

[manic cloak]

Oh ya that’s fine then, I couldn’t find anything about wattage anyways

[potent portal]

Your battery died, that'll be $4000 for repairs because we can't change the battery without also swapping the motherboard which has the CPU and RAM soldered to it, and the display cable will break when we do that so you need a new display too

[plucky timber]

Passive cooled M4

[weary galleon]

Apple silicon is quite efficient

[manic cloak]

Another issue is if any of the ram dies

[plucky timber]

Apple "genius" bar vs one persian guy with an engineering degree

[analog hearth]

or some other small controller

[manic cloak]

Your ddr5 LP7500X or whatever soldered into the chip is going to cost you 200$ per 8gb

[manic cloak]

Or that

So it’s a hit or miss

[plucky timber]

LPDDR5

More like LPDeez

[analog hearth]

nuts

[manic cloak]

Might have to call all of the colleges in my area and see their prices 🤑

[vocal hare]

Isn’t the Mac mini like $600

[potent portal]

The base model yes

The fact they charge an extra $200 to go from 256GB to 512GB is insane

Or $400 for 1TB

Literally 10x market price

[vocal hare]

Yeah Apple tax is crap

What speed is it even

Gen 4?

[potent portal]

It's proprietary

[vocal hare]

Right Apple

[potent portal]

It looks like M.2 but it's not, they just used the same connector

[vocal hare]

What speeds are they

[cyan ravine]

It's a trap

Venus m.2trap

[vocal hare]

I mean ima be real for a casual computer user or college student it’s hard to beat a mba

[potent portal]

M4 Pro 512GB gets about 5500MBps

Midrange gen 4

[vocal hare]

So gen 4 speeds

[potent portal]

M1 is 3400 write and 3000 read

Oof

[vocal hare]

If the mba was 512gb base it’d be even harder to beat

For the price

It’s just kinda better than comparable windows laptops

Unless you need windows

[frigid jackal]

selling gpu and cpu with pickup, should I do anything to ensure they don't get messed up with static electricity or something?

mostly just wondering if I'd need antistatic bag for them

[stoic island]

Ideally use original packaging but static electricity is not a big concern

[frigid jackal]

no original packaging, but if static is not rlly that big of a deal can I store it in some box with some type of paper towels to prevent them from moving around so much?

[potent portal]

Paper towels will shred as things shift around

If they're just picking it up in person then just a standard cardboard box works fine

[stoic island]

Might be a good idea to wrap it with a clean towel or something temporarily until you hand it off

[dusky hearth]

Next time you buy a cpu I highly recommend keeping that little plastic cpu carrier, and tossing the box

Also if you have a 3d printer, you could also 3d print a cpu carrier

Ltt does this, as well as a few other tech youtubers

[potent portal]

That CPU clamshell sells for like $5 on its own because people always toss them out

[dusky hearth]

Lmao

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4896698

[manic cloak]

Found this because I was looking at fbm for Mac minis.. he has a m4 for 575$, checked his profile and he was selling this

[potent portal]

What part of that is 2024 because that looks more like 2022 to me

[manic cloak]

Fr

Its in a montech x3 case

With crappy cable management so like kinda ancient

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/easter-happy-easter-he-has-risen-easter-funny-pillsbury-doughboy-gif-12740970502348911562

[dusky hearth]

One of the worst sticker placements ever

Not parallel with the case

Haphazardly placed

[manic cloak]

And if you look into the case

It looks like the cpu connector cable is next to the motherboard pin connector

[dusky hearth]

Also wow
Just zoomed into the case
That has got to be one of the worst cable management jobs I've seen

[manic cloak]

Fr

[dusky hearth]

Didn't even try

[manic cloak]

Like I’m going to keep it real

I don’t even think the motherboard connector is in the right spot

It looks so out of place

like you said not so parallel

[dusky hearth]

I wonder if they paid extra for a white PSU.... On a black build

???

[potent portal]

No wonder it's marked down to $600, it basically needs to be completely rebuilt because they're clearly not good at this

[cyan ravine]

Amd risen

Now it flies

Lisa su spread ur wings

[potent portal]

It's a decent enough deal at that price but with the caveat that you should tear it down and rebuild lol

[dusky hearth]

More like back from the dead with how it looks

[cyan ravine]

I love the deepNOTcool cooler

[manic cloak]

should I buy it over the mac mini 😭

cause 499 + 8.375% sales is uhhh

[cyan ravine]

Tbh it looks ok if you embrace fal's words

[potent portal]

Apples to oranges comparison there

[manic cloak]

541$ vs 600 flat

[potent portal]

Mac mini vs windows desktop is more about what you'd use it for

[dusky hearth]

There has been alot of mac minis

Which year you talking about

[manic cloak]

I had to tear my pc apart last year because the cpu cooler mount on the back of my motherboard fell out when I installed the thermalright lga1700 corrector

so i'm more than willin

[cyan ravine]

Ok lemme give you a parts breakdown

AK500 rgb

[manic cloak]

was talking about it earlier with the m4 for 500$

[cyan ravine]

Msi pro cheapass board

7700X

Random ass ssd's

The psu is a white corsair RM

[manic cloak]

I don't think it's the right motherboard imo

cause it's obviouslt a microcenter bundle

[cyan ravine]

Montech X3

G.skill ripjaws

The parts are fundamentally fine

But it's a wacky ass combo

[manic cloak]

actually

[cyan ravine]

Only part I'm honestly concerned about is the mobo

[manic cloak]

this might be a mix and match old syste,

[dusky hearth]

I still can't get over how they got a white PSU with white PSU cables for a completely black build asides from the psu

[cyan ravine]

It looks like a 2021+ white rm

Could've been from an old pc

[dusky hearth]

Idk

Parts are only slightly newer than the PSU

[cyan ravine]

I recognise corsair psu cables anywhere

[manic cloak]

no it's not the right motherboard

I think

[dusky hearth]

Assuming they bought around the launch date, but idk why they would sell the PC like a year after it was built assuming they bought it more recently

[cyan ravine]

It looks like pro b650m-p

[manic cloak]

it might be the gigabyte eagle

no

[cyan ravine]

But I can't see clearly

Eagle?

[manic cloak]

look at the bottom of the I/O

wait no

it's a gaming AX 2

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah wtf board is that

Wow ok

Good spot

[manic cloak]

wait

[cyan ravine]

The psu I also don't see the usual Corsair rm label

[manic cloak]

no..

hold on.

[cyan ravine]

So I could be wrong

[manic cloak]

it's not that either 😭

[cyan ravine]

I see 6 pin audio

6 pin is usually a higher end codec

[potent portal]

I love motherboards that put the wifi antennae on the bottom of the IO so it blocks a bunch of USB ports

[manic cloak]

MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard

that's the motherboard

[potent portal]

ofc it's msi

[cyan ravine]

Yep I was just coming to post

B650 p also counts

Ok so it's not total garbage board then

[manic cloak]

I think it's the P version

[cyan ravine]

That actually looks decent for the price but I wish I knew the psu

[manic cloak]

cause if i'm not wrong that USED to be the 2023 board till it swapped to gigabyte

for microcenters bundle

[manic cloak]

well

there's a snippet of the psu here

OEM cables

probably from microcenter imo

were fishing for rocks while this dude pulled all of the cables from the back to the front

[wheat zealot]

Does anyone if not keeping the manufacturer box an item ships in voids warranty? For a monitor to be specific.

[potent portal]

Depends on the brand

It'll say in the warranty booklet that came in the box

[manic cloak]

like you're saying shipping it out in a separate box?

cause this is my personal opinion, you make a claim cause you shipped it in a different box, gets destroyed, they're going to cancel your warranty

but instead, you get to go after the shipping company you shipped it with

[dusky hearth]

usually RMA requires you to ship the product in either "secure packaging" or "original packaging"
especially with monitors, just throwing it into a box isnt going to be "secure packaging" and warranty may be voided from shipping damage assuming that you didn't put all the precautions to protect the monitor (e.g. just throwing it into a cardboard box with no foam or whatever)

the panel on every type of monitor is fairly fragile

to the point that very large and heavy monitors like those samsung ultrawides kill themselves lmao

[wheat zealot]

For sure, I’ll just keep it then. Rather be safe then sorry. Thanks @dusky hearth @manic cloak

[manic cloak]

@potent portal @cyan ravine sorry for ping but tell me what’s wrong in this image

[manic cloak]

Ya no worries, then again you could always lie about what happened

[dusky hearth]

are they using the mobo display out instead of gpu 💀

[manic cloak]

Yup 😭

[wheat zealot]

😭

[dusky hearth]

wait... are they selling this because the pc performs badly

i wonder

have they been gaming on their igpu all this time and they just think their pc is faulty 😭

[potent portal]

That seems likely from what we can see

[manic cloak]

also

https://www.microcenter.com/product/648353/powerspec-750-watt-80-plus-bronze-atx-semi-modular-power-supply

this is their powersupply

[potent portal]

But for all we know the GPU died completely due to a bad PSU and the iGPU is the only way to get image

[manic cloak]

^

[manic cloak]

corsairs has the model title above it, assuming it's all microcenter built, this is the one likely

[potent portal]

Low C tier PSU

[manic cloak]

It obviously isn't powering much but.. with cable management like that and display port on a motherboard i'm not surprised.

[potent portal]

I wouldn't be surprised either. Half inserted cables aren't just a problem for 12VHPWR after all.

[manic cloak]

i'll see what he says in the morning

otherwise i'm probably going to avoid that piece of garbage

[potent portal]

That's something I might go for and slap one of my spare PSUs into it and redo all the cabling and flip it for $800

Easier to sell when it's not ugly as sin

[cyan ravine]

AHHHH I WAS LOOKING FOREVER FOR THIS

[analog hearth]

Other than the obvious, the wrap is still on the DP cable

[cyan ravine]

OMG

[analog hearth]

OMG

Oh

[cyan ravine]

Oh finally

Ok bad psu

Ok mobo didn't suck only psu suck

For spec it fine doe

That was driving me nuts

[manic cloak]

like I assumed it's a microcenter build

for all Ik he could of never stuck that DP into the graphics card

wait does the 7700x even have an igpu

[potent portal]

yes

All AM5 do except F sku

[manic cloak]

alright I was going to say

[potent portal]

I'm using mine right now for a secondary monitor

[manic cloak]

well that also answers my secondary monitor question too

[potent portal]

Yep it's a good way to avoid the notorious high idle power draw bug on Nvidia

When you plug multiple monitors into a Nvidia GPU, there's a chance that it locks the memory clock to the highest state even when idle so it draws like 40W for nothing

Higher chances with mixed refresh rates too

[manic cloak]

anything with amd?

cause my only issue I could see is the drivers going nuts

[potent portal]

Just occasional driver hiccups, get acquainted with DDU and you're fine

[dusky hearth]

the only thing that makes me think that they might have used their gpu prior is that they did remove all the dust caps from the connectors

[potent portal]

You need to remove those just to get it to fit in the case sometimes if the back slots are tight

[dusky hearth]

true, that is a possibility, or maybe a friend or family built it but didnt set it up for them?

[manic cloak]

well if I buy it

either i'm buying a cheap fbm case

or i'm redesigning the whole thing

[cyan ravine]

I would tidy it up

New psu

Then gpu if I needed it

If not flip the cpu, go 7500F, tidy up

Chill

I'd go either way in that situation

[brittle tinsel]

is it possible to build a "stream" pc for around $500? preferably less than $500 if it will still be good quality

[stable cove]

For my next build I might change all the fans with different ones that have a higher CFM for better cooling. On pc parts you can buy extra fans it’s just Felix might’ve thought that was a stupid idea

[potent portal]

Easy 1080p120 stream box https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qh6Bh7

Assuming you'd be playing the game on a separate computer and using this one just to keep the stream alive in case the gaming PC crashes, things like that

AV1 encoding too which is fantastic for streaming

[void cypress]

he could prolly get away with a smaller boot drive too tbh or a lower wattage psu

[potent portal]

Yes, if you wanted to pinch the pennies that's possible. I assumed there would be some recordings stored on the drive, and it's not much more than a 500GB drive anyway. As for the power supply... You could technically go cheaper but I wouldn't recommend it. Anything cheaper is going to have fixed cables, which just means a mess since you only need 24 pin and EPS.

And I'm intentionally ignoring the apevia PSUs, most of their stuff is trash

[void cypress]

its interesting, always could go with like a 256gb boot drive and find a really cheap 1-2tb hard drive for storing streams or such

[brittle tinsel]

the primary reason is because when I used to stream on a 1 pc setup I would get insane packet loss, so im thinking streaming from a separate pc will fix that. The second reason is the boost in performance compared to a single pc setup.

and yea, it would have some recording on it.

[potent portal]

You could grab a used 256gb ssd for that route but they're not too much cheaper than 1tb drives new

[void cypress]

oh yeah theres a 1tb hard drive from seagate for 32.99

[potent portal]

For the penny pinching route you'd definitely go for used or refurbished storage, otherwise just a new 1tb because it's the same price as a 128gb ssd+1tb hdd

[void cypress]

facts

[marble delta]

https://a.co/d/26jYQJU

Is this case good for airflow?

[analog hearth]

yeah

[marble delta]

Cool I hope it’s compatible for 50 series ti once it get announced

[analog hearth]

There's no "GPU-case compatibility". The only thing you should worry about is for whether it fits

[compact light]

Hey guys I was just cleaning my PC and though that I should try what I saw in a video not long ago where if you happen to have 4 sticks of the same brand at different sizes so 2 sets 1 at 2x4 other at 2x8 and the video said that I should actually run 1 of each on each dual channel so both dual channels would have the same amount of ram is this correct?

[analog hearth]

woah

I've bought RAM for several PCs, usually different brands (trying things out, don't know what brands and models are good, etc.) I'm currently running 48GB of memory in one of my servers, two sticks I believe are G.Skill and the other two (again, I think) are HyperX Fury

Runs perfectly fine

One kit is a 2x16GB kit and the other is a 2x8GB kit

@compact light hope this helps

[rain carbon]

Note ram speeds are gonna be affected as well

But yeah mixing ram isnt as bad as it used to be

[analog hearth]

^

[vague oracle]

There still is a large possibility of the PC being unstable when mixing rams

More likely than not, you won't be able to run at XMP when mixing kits

[winged prawn]

Is my screen broken

I just turned everything on

It was fine before

No problems now it’s do this

On top of this problem downloading the updated bios, mediatek wifi drivers, Bluetooth drivers don’t work

[potent portal]

Yes you want both channels to have the same amount of memory so it runs in proper dual channel mode. You probably won't be able to use XMP in this configuration.

[dusky hearth]

the reflection doesnt help but that does look like some connection or something is faulty, perhaps the screen, perhaps the cable, idk

[winged prawn]

it was fine before now its no

not

but illl try to see if its conncted right

what do you mean by connection

[dusky hearth]

connector or wire, or screen

[winged prawn]

the wire aand connector ar working

the sata cable cant reeally fall out

[cyan ravine]

He means the internal wire

Or connector

Lol

@dusky hearth it reminds me of what my TV looked like when it died

Lmao

[dusky hearth]

lmao

but yeah that kind of artifact on the display isnt really "normal" by any means, so it has to be something going on whether it's just the lcd or lcd driver dying, or a bad signal caused by the wire or connector

[cyan ravine]

Yep

It'll be one of those things

[winged prawn]

everthing is connected

[cyan ravine]

If you don't have a spare cable then I'd warranty it

[cyan ravine]

Even if it's connected, if it's loose or faulty then it's a valid possibility

[winged prawn]

the fan cable is strdy

and the sata cable is not undone

it was working when i booted it up before too

[dusky hearth]

That's not the point we're trying to say
If the cable is faulty, no matter how good you plug it in, it might not work properly lmao

[cyan ravine]

Electronics die very quietly lad

It just...happens

My ram stick died the other day and I hadn't touched it for 6 months

I turned the pc off

Back on

Dead

That's just how it goes with these things

[winged prawn]

ye

On top of this problem downloading the updated bios, mediatek wifi drivers, Bluetooth drivers don’t work

[muted shore]

What's a good GPU with a ton of vram for work

But not very pricy

[potent portal]

7900 xtx

24gb

When it's in stock it's been around $850-900 lately

Or a used 3090

also 24gb

[long rock]

6800, 370 dollars for 16 gigs

[muted shore]

7900xtx looks like a good deal

900 dollars

Thanks

[sage thunder]

is jawa.gg a scam? this is the pc im tryna buy https://www.jawa.gg/product/57892/copy-of-on-sale-custom-gaming-pc-2060

[potent portal]

Jawa is fine, they have buyer protection similar to ebay

[sage thunder]

is that a good budget pc though?

[dusky hearth]

a fair bit better than the other builds you've listed so far, i'd say this would usually be worth more around $400? so $55 more honestly is fine for already assembled

considerably better than the like $250 or whatever those parts are worth for $500 💀

[stoic island]

Doesn't really look worth it, I think 2060 is going for around $100 now, the CPU and mobo are pretty damn old and the ram would be limited to only 2400

[mossy venture]

Yeah thats gonna struggle with quite a few games

If it had like an 8700k at that price I'd go for it

[dusky hearth]

they cant do custom though since they said their mom doesnt want them to build

so a little rough

[stoic island]

best to try to find something better still

[potent portal]

That's 455+shipping too

[dusky hearth]

oh

[potent portal]

So extra oof

[dusky hearth]

right i forgot about shipping

[mossy venture]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/165837789704?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FD6px4KaRcK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Definitely not my first recommendation

But at $360 I mean

[stoic island]

and free shipping so

better value proposition if nothing else

[dusky hearth]

yeah that would be better

[winged prawn]

On top off the screen being bugged

The water block isn’t even being acknowledged

It’s acting like the pump isn’t there

[dusky hearth]

also lmao the "list price" kinda goes crazy, i dont think that prebuilt brand new was even close to that price

never ceases to amuse me the price that people put on products to make like their current price is the best deal in existence

[stoic island]

brand new on release even with the usual prebuilt upcharge that wouldn't be over $1000 lol

[mossy venture]

Omg guys gt 1030 i5-6500 build for $360 on woot

Wait I lied

$390

[dusky hearth]

even for 360 isnt that worse value than that asus

[potent portal]

Yes, bacca's sarcasm can be hard to detect sometimes

[mossy venture]

Sorry

[dusky hearth]

oh lmao

[pearl gulch]

what are the modern benchmark websites nowadays? I'm looking to compare some CPU's - it's been 4 years since I've looked at hardware to build my last computer. starting up again

[potent portal]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php?redirect

[golden viper]

Have a gpu question... need advice

Anyone i can message to discuss?

I was recommended to chat with @potent portal and or @mossy venture if either of you have a min that would be awesome.

[stoic island]

What do you need advice on?

[golden viper]

Would the asus be the better option?

[stoic island]

No, they're both 7900xts, the sapphire pulse is a good model and for a more reasonable price.

[golden viper]

I was looking to upgrade from my 3070FE and was recommended the 7900xt. But I'm struggling with which i should go with.

[stoic island]

Sapphire is a lesser known brand since they only do AMD cards, but they're still a reputable brand

[golden viper]

Pretty sure I'm not getting my hands on a 50 series card and I'm told this is a good option with my older tech pc

Yeah I was told about the sapphire card but is there any mega differance in the 2?

[weary galleon]

Biggest difference by far is the price

[mossy venture]

What cpu are you on?

[golden viper]

Same performance?

9900k

[mossy venture]

You're definitely gonna be cpu limited, what resolution is your monitor?

[golden viper]

1440p

[mossy venture]

Makes sense to upgrade gpu first

[golden viper]

165hz

[mossy venture]

7900xt is still a great idea but you'll most likely be cpu limited in games, that's all

[weary galleon]

Tbh might hold on to current system and do a new build when AMD 90xx releases

[mossy venture]

Thats true, but there's also the counter argument we've no clue what tarrifs will do to the market

[weary galleon]

True

[golden viper]

I plan to do a whole new build in the near future but would like to get a few more years out of this if I'm able

[mossy venture]

Oh also what power supply do you have?

[golden viper]

750 but I'm able to use an 850 if a problem arises

[mossy venture]

Imo drop a gpu upgrade in, then upgrade cpu whenever you feel like spending the money, and it'll feel like a whole new pc, no need for a full new one

[mossy venture]

What model?

[golden viper]

Corsair rm750x

[mossy venture]

Oh great

You're fine

[golden viper]

Any suggestions on a non insanely priced gpu that's going to help me better then my 3070fe

[mossy venture]

Other than the 7900xt?

[golden viper]

Was i on the right path with the 7900xt?

Any really

I'm not bias

[mossy venture]

Oh yeah fal and mr111 are more knowledgeable than I am, no need to check again, but yeah it's the only card I recommend at that price bracket atm

[golden viper]

I mainly sum race and FPS

[mossy venture]

If you're cool with used you could potentially find a $400-450 6900xt/6950xt

[golden viper]

Ok last question. Are there really any difference in all the 7900xt cards?

[mossy venture]

Very minor differences, sapphire is towards the higher end of them

[golden viper]

Ok i lied more questions lol. So price mainly reflects brand?

[mossy venture]

Not really right now, prices are inflated bc of low stock on a lot of models

Amd was originally planning for a launch early this year but delayed it a few months

[analog hearth]

Not really but ROG tax is a thing

[golden viper]

I see what they did there.

Ok so pretty much find a 7900xt in the price range I'm comfortable paying and as long as it's a reputable brand then I should be safe to pull the trigger?

[mossy venture]

Wouldnt pay more than $660 personally

But yeah

[golden viper]

Oh man. That's going to be a rough find around me. 😕

[mossy venture]

Oh are you not us based?

[golden viper]

For new or used?

Yes west MI

[mossy venture]

The pulse is in stock at $650 on newegg rn

Oh

No it isnt

[golden viper]

Before tax

[mossy venture]

Pcpartpicker lies

[mossy venture]

Yeah

[golden viper]

660 + 40 some in tax.

[mossy venture]

But its actually $695

I meant before taxes with that $660

[golden viper]

So if I find an Amazon around 700$ it's fair assuming free shipping

[mossy venture]

Yeah pcparpticker doesn't have many in stock tho

Show*

This is the cheapest atm
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-phantom-gaming-rx7900xt-pgw-20go-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20gb-gddr6/p/N82E16814930117

[golden viper]

I dig the white would go good with my build.

[plucky timber]

sapphire is consistently good

they're pretty much the premium radeon option

[golden viper]

Thank you all.

Asrock should be fine no?

[plucky timber]

all of the 7900XTs should be pretty well built anyways

that's why it's usually a good idea to just get the cheapest one

oh yeah the asrock is the cheapset one

[golden viper]

This is the cheapest one I've seen...

Not familiar with xfx

[plucky timber]

solid card

they're all pretty much the same

[golden viper]

I think I'm gunna pay the extra 40$ and get that asrock. Looks better IMO. But again thank you everyone! I greatly appreciate you all! I know enough to build my own system but not enough to k ow all the details you all helped me with!

[mossy venture]

The xfx is great

Id save the $40 personally but you can't go wrong either way

[pearl gulch]

why is it hard to find SSD's larger than 2 TB right now? I thought there was a technological limitation but can't recall

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/trjRsY/teamgroup-mp44q-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8ffd004t0c101

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mzJp99/western-digital-wd_black-sn850x-8-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds800t2x0e

[plucky timber]

they're actually really common these days

is it just me

or have the 4TBs gone back up in price

[weary galleon]

They just don't have the same price/tb as 1-2 tb drives. Not sure if that's an artificial "premium product" thing or just it's hard to fit that much nand onto the ssd

I guess $216 for the MP44Q is pretty close to the ~50/tb you spend on smaller drives

[pearl gulch]

is there a mfr that is 'considered' better for mobos when looking for functional bluetooth support?
My last 3 computers (technically 2) have had weird issues where even with bluetooth adapters they never worked.
I used setup a lot of computers for work, and the computers out of box that they used... they never had issues with bluetooth

For some reference, I've gone through 2 different USB bluetooth mfr's, I've done pretty much every level of troubleshooting I could imagine on my previous computers. I basically gave up on my current one and decided if it doesn't work, i just won't use the cool bluetooth peripherals I have.

But every time there's a useful bluetooth feature, I have to miss out (like calling from my phone on my computer using phone link).

[vocal hare]

feel like all i see from motherboards are intel, realtek, mediatek

and of them if i had to choose I have better experience with intel

[pearl gulch]

hmm that's funny i think that's the only type of mobo i've never explicitly purchased.... and those are the ones i see the most at work...

[vocal hare]

i mean most of the ones used in motherboards aren't the most amazing but they work

[pearl gulch]

just trying to fix my bad luck as much as I can.

could always be pebkac though

[vocal hare]

all i use bt for is controllers and hadphones

[pearl gulch]

i don't actually see any intel options here...
I have this cool bluetooth connected wireless mouse that goes on as finger rings

works great when i go on vacation, would like to use it while I'm laying in bed.

[vocal hare]

i mean the baked in wifi is usually just any regular wifi card its usually just hiding under something for aesthetic reasons

[pearl gulch]

wfi don't even work on this pc, but I didn't care since I'm alwayus wired

[vocal hare]

so are you looking for a card or a new mobo

[static skiff]

@analog hearth i feel like i remember something with dell not working with ventoy correctly

[analog hearth]

Just had to select Grub 2 apparently

[static skiff]

ok, good that you got it working

[analog hearth]

I changed my mind on Arch and went to Manjaro. I pulled a classic "uninstalling the French language" (sudo rm -fr /*) for fun and installed Fedora

[static skiff]

nice

[analog hearth]

Running updates. I might have a third "daily" laptop now 💀

[sage thunder]

whats the best 500 or less white pc on jawa

just case not all parts

[static skiff]

500 usd for a case?

[dusky hearth]

For the whole pc

They have a budget of $500usd, prebuilt only since their parents don't want them to custom build, and they want it to also have a white case

[static skiff]

but they said "just case not all parts"

oh wait asin a prebuilt

[sage thunder]

just hite case with hite parts

white*

]they ont lie ebay either because f bad past experience

[static skiff]

usually on that budget, parts will be a hodge podge of anything somebody could afford

so youre probably not going to get all white

[sage thunder]

i meant white case not white parts

mb

sorry for bad spelling i was typing on a steam deck

theyre really strict (even though its my money)

[dusky hearth]

Yeah they've asked several times over the course of a few days since we still couldn't find one that was good enough value and matches the requirements
Would have been alot easier if they could do custom

[static skiff]

i found this one but its not very good
https://www.jawa.gg/product/47262/nvidia-gtx-gaming-pc-clean-white-build-with-ryzen-5

[dusky hearth]

Meh, ryzen 2000 kinda mid, though I guess you could upgrade to 5000 in the future

Mid single core

Mid single threaded*

[sage thunder]

wait what if i can build it only if the cpu and gpu arent used

[dusky hearth]

Also that price isn't good

[sage thunder]

i asked them again and they gave in but the gpu and cpu cant be used since thats the big parts of the pc

[static skiff]

but those are the best ones to get used

[dusky hearth]

Normally people do the complete opposite lol

[static skiff]

you can easily get screwed on a motherboard

[weary galleon]

yeah, used GPU is a lot less sus than used power supply haha

[sage thunder]

ik thats what i said but they said no

so everything thats safe to be used (thats not gpu or cpu) can be used, like used case and stuff

[static skiff]

this is confusing. your parents are telling you what to do with your own money? mine would let me make my own mistakes

[sage thunder]

i know idk why

[dusky hearth]

Young

[static skiff]

you should go convince them to let you make your own mistakes

[sage thunder]

idk how

so will it be possible to one with somthig like a 2060 or around it?

or a 1660 super

[static skiff]

the rtx tax is huge. a 1080ti is like $150 used and its better than the 2060

but its kind of hard not to get these either of these used

and the 1080 is almost 10 years old, and its losing driver support soon

[sage thunder]

amazon used is good btw because its amazon

[static skiff]

but it has just about the worst used prices ever

[sage thunder]

idk i see a 1660 for 138

[static skiff]

idk, im bad at low budget stuff. i just convince people to raise their budget until i can get them a 4060 or something

[dusky hearth]

No, not really

[sage thunder]

no i meant its good fr y parents so they et me use tat

[dusky hearth]

Oh

[sage thunder]

for my parents so they letme use it*

[dusky hearth]

Well, Amazon is fine I guess but it's similar to eBay in trustworthiness and has worse value most of the time

[mossy venture]

Thats not good

A 1660 should be $60

[sage thunder]

oh im new to pcs sorry

[mossy venture]

Don't apologize, I was just informing you

Can't know if you dont ask

[sage thunder]

oh thank yo

well the things i can go for: used anything besides cpu and gpu (for some reason) and white case

500 budget

[analog hearth]

Nah who's still buying 2060s 😭😭

[sage thunder]

broke ppl

[analog hearth]

mood

[sage thunder]

like me

[analog hearth]

also mood

[mossy venture]

What type of gaming are you trying to do?

I'd still just suggest this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165837789704?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FD6px4KaRcK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[sage thunder]

nothing too heavy, just valo, minecraft, and roblox

and a little marvel rivals but if it has bad fps its ok

just something to start me off with to upgrade in the future

[dusky hearth]

You could also buy a white case with the extra money from buying that prebuilt

[mossy venture]

You won't really find anything that's upgradable as far as pre builts go in this budget

[sage thunder]

i said i could build it

used everything besides gpu and cpu

[dusky hearth]

Not much savings in that front either

[sage thunder]

this seems good, could i put it in a white case?

[dusky hearth]

Most money saved is from the cpu and gpu

[mossy venture]

Oh, uhh

I guess give me a second

[sage thunder]

i know idk why they needed me to not get those used

[sage thunder]

if this is good for the budget i might be able to get it and get a white case if i ask

[mossy venture]

Can't

OEM build i believe, means mobo psu and case are all incompatible without eachother

[sage thunder]

damn

[mossy venture]

Ok there's two options for building yourself

Either an 8000 series cpu with an igpu, it's about on par with a 1650. It can handle some gaming, but nothing intense. You can just drop a gpu in down the line and swap cpus, and you have a whole new pc

Or you can build a pc focused on best overall performance now, but not much of an upgrade path

[dusky hearth]

I would recommend the upgrade path so when your parents stop caring about buying used GPUs, you can buy one to upgrade

[sage thunder]

ill do the upgrade one

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VwBFKq

[sage thunder]

is intergrated grapihcs good? i thought it was bad

[mossy venture]

With tax its over budget tho

[mossy venture]

Amds newest igpus are decent

[dusky hearth]

Modern igpus can honestly run quite a bit, I can run hitman 3 on the igpu on the 6900hs that I have lmao

[mossy venture]

Theyre still behind a decent gpu, but they can handle light games

[sage thunder]

i can buy a used case, i could cut some down from that

[mossy venture]

Can definitely run valorant, minecraft and similar

@crimson zinc

Do you have that rm750e link?

[dusky hearth]

Might be a little difficult to find a used white case?

[crimson zinc]

Hold

[sage thunder]

is there anything to cut budget?

[mossy venture]

Actually one sec

Yeah i can cut some off

[crimson zinc]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/certified-refurbished/cp-9020262-na-rf/rme-series-rm750e-fully-modular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-refurbished-cp-9020262-na-rf

[mossy venture]

Newegg has a combo savings event going on, I'll get a pcpartpicker list in a sec

[sage thunder]

its 545 with shipping and tax

[sage thunder]

ok

[mossy venture]

Alright so on newegg, add the 8600g, b850m-x, asrock cl750g, and this case to your cart

Total is $410

Wait sorry

Not the b850m-x

Gigabyte B650m gaming wifi

[sage thunder]

can u make it a pc part picker list for convenience

im too lazy

[mossy venture]

Wait nvm on that case

Doesn't fit

[sage thunder]

damn

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BYsMTM

[sage thunder]

whats the newegg links?

[mossy venture]

You can just add the cpu, mobo, and psu to your cart on newegg

[winged prawn]

I need help, I’m trying to fix the endless problems with my new tower, the first being the motherboard, why won’t it let me update my bios

[mossy venture]

Discount will come off automatically

[sage thunder]

why is the psu say 0 dollars

[mossy venture]

The psu and mobo price are factored into the cpus price i set at $344

[sage thunder]

oh okay

[mossy venture]

Because they are $344 for all three

[winged prawn]

😔

[sage thunder]

so my amazon cart should be 98 bucks?

[mossy venture]

Yes, just the ram and case

[sage thunder]

okay

[mossy venture]

Ssd and the rest is on newegg

[sage thunder]

ty man i got an extra 50 is there anything i should upgrade or is that good

444.58 with taxes and shipping

can i buy this pc case instead for better airflow? https://a.co/d/jjOHMCs since i have extra

or is the one i got rn good

@mossy venture

[mossy venture]

As long as it fits everything go for it

Won't make a difference performance wise

I'd spend the extra on more storage or ram personally

[sage thunder]

okay

[mossy venture]

It's your money tho

[sage thunder]

nono ill upgrade those

ill check if 32 gigs of ram and maybe a terabyte of ram will fit my budget

[mossy venture]

For the ram all you'll need to do is add a second stick later on

[sage thunder]

storage*

[mossy venture]

Or you can get a 32gb 6000c30 kit for $80

Actually one sec

I think it comes out cheaper with the newegg combo

[manic cloak]

there is a prebuilt for nearly 800$ if you got the extra 300$ to spend! 😭

[sage thunder]

which one is cheaper to upgrade, ram or storage?

ill upgrade the cheaper one first and save money for the more expensive or later

[mossy venture]

Honestly either is easy enough, but I'm fiddling around with smthn rq

Theyre both just adding another stick, instead of having to replace something

[sage thunder]

right but if i start with 512 then upgrade to a terabyte wont i have to reinstall windows and what not?

[mossy venture]

Nope

You'll just have two ssds

I have three ssds and an hdd In my pc

[sage thunder]

ohh

[mossy venture]

So the 7600x has a free 1tb ssd on newegg

It has an igpu, but far far worse than the 8600g

It is about 20-25% better cpu wise though, meaning you won't have to swap cpu, and it has some better sales than the 8600g does it looks like

[sage thunder]

ill stick with the 8600g

[mossy venture]

Alr

[sage thunder]

my steam deck has 256 and im fine with that so

512 gigs should be enough for now

so i should get 32 gigs of ddr5 ram?

[mossy venture]

Idk if you can spend more than this without going too close to $500 before taxes
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BYsMTM

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4cCCmG/patriot-viper-venom-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-pvv532g600c30k

[manic cloak]

is the 8600G a bundle on newegg?

[mossy venture]

Yeah w combo up savings

It's not a crazy deal but its something

[sage thunder]

w price (with taxes and shipping) thank you

[manic cloak]

is there a link for the newegg combo?

[mossy venture]

Gotta just add the parts individually or on the newegg combo builder

[manic cloak]

ohhh alright

@sage thunder if i'm correct you didn't want to buy off of aliexpress right?

[sage thunder]

this is my setup, i got a white deskmat and a white mouse coming. im using the steam deck docked in the photo and ill put my pc in that space under it

[sage thunder]

i wouldnt personally mind but my parents probably would i got strict parents

they think its stupid

so i cant buy tech off aliexpress

[sage thunder]

the thing above my moniter was where my tv used to be before i got the new desk so ignore that

[manic cloak]

what's your estimated sales tax btw

if you know

[sage thunder]

7 percent

[manic cloak]

agh well it's pointless what i'll tell you but aliexpress has 86.19 8400f + the same board you have for 116.99 just no CMOS battery (cause battery goes boom in air shipments)

would of been 217$ after tax

[sage thunder]

dang

is there a displayport cable i can buy of aliexpress for like 5 dollars? im using hdmi rn so its capped at 60 hertz when i have a 144 hertz moniter

[manic cloak]

i'm sure there's a DP like that or even on amazon

[weary galleon]

8600 is a good deal better than 8400 iirc

[manic cloak]

is the 8400f crappy?

[sage thunder]

theyre all 7 or above

on amazon

[manic cloak]

cause I was thinking whatever extra money he had could allocate to a GPU

[crimson zinc]

Its not good

[mossy venture]

8600g and 8400f aren't too far off eachother

[crimson zinc]

Basically a neutered 8600g

[mossy venture]

8400f is more restricted but perf wise it's like 5% worse iirc

[crimson zinc]

Isn’t it 2 disabled cores?

[weary galleon]

Budget really only allows for igpu rn and I think 8600g has a decently better igpu

[mossy venture]

Is it?

[manic cloak]

i'm still looking into what the igpu compares to but alr

[mossy venture]

It's a bit worse than a 1650

Maybe a 1050 ti is a good comparison

[sage thunder]

can anyone link a good DP cable on ali for 5 bucks

[crimson zinc]

From Reddit “The 8400F is pretty poor value, it’s an APU with the graphics cores fused off and has a host of limitations on connectivity and PCI-E lanes.”

[sage thunder]

itll be a good upgrade from a hdmi

wait

[mossy venture]

It won't make a difference, hdmi is fine

[sage thunder]

what about ports that only have hdmi ports

[crimson zinc]

HDMI is fine for even a 4090 lmao

[sage thunder]

but my 144 hertz moniter is capped at 60 hertz

[mossy venture]

Thats probably your current pc or whatever you're outputting from

[weary galleon]

Yeah wait 8400f doesn't even have an igpu I don't think

[mossy venture]

It doesnt

[manic cloak]

likely with an xbox if you have?

[mossy venture]

Thats what the f is

[sage thunder]

and ive never experienced anything over 60 fps

[manic cloak]

trust me it isn't much different

[sage thunder]

im using a steam deck lcd 256 rn

[sage thunder]

oh

[manic cloak]

that's probably the reason too

[sage thunder]

people make it a big deal tho

[crimson zinc]

I’ve used a 75hz monitor for years

[sage thunder]

i mean ive gotten like 900 fps on my steam deck but i only have 60 hertz so

[mossy venture]

It could be an old display cable then

Unless your monitor is just 60hz lol

[sage thunder]

on low graphics in the void

on mc

[manic cloak]

minecraft is capped at 60fps btw

[plucky timber]

What

No it's not

[manic cloak]

for base minecraft it should be

[plucky timber]

No

You just have to set the fps slider to unlimited

[sage thunder]

fr

[sage thunder]

turn off vsync 😭

[cyan ravine]

Boeing if I set you to unlimited does your rolls royce engines explode and we get an inquiry to your death

[manic cloak]

I swear I read smth about minecraft being capped at 60

[plucky timber]

Royce RB211 does not explode

[cyan ravine]

You underestimate a monkey with tools (me)

[manic cloak]

it's been off 😭

[plucky timber]

It's a 747 not an McDonnell Douglas sabotaged plane (737 max)

[sage thunder]

dont play on a switch then bro 😭🙏

[cyan ravine]

Again I am a monkey with a toolbox

[manic cloak]

i'd never buy any game on the switch except pokemon or smash bros

[sage thunder]

school pc btw

[crimson zinc]

No you’re a pic with a hat

[sage thunder]

how do i get him off

[crimson zinc]

OI

[plucky timber]

Y'all still in school?

[crimson zinc]

GET OFF THAT BROWSER

INSTALL FIREFOX

[sage thunder]

inspect element only works on edge on the school pcs for some reason

[sage thunder]

they blocked it

[sage thunder]

im in computing class in that phoot

[crimson zinc]

Check if Christian mingle or farmers only is blocked

[sage thunder]

photo*

[sage thunder]

it is trust

[crimson zinc]

Then check if you can buy a bride from Russia

Cuz my schools didn’t block that

[vocal hare]

windows is much less efficient than steam os

[manic cloak]

Is it the apevia prestige that's the cheapest recommended psu?

[plucky timber]

Yes

[sage thunder]

im getting it mainly for more games on windows and whatnot

[plucky timber]

I wouldn't pair it with anything too expensive tho

I'm still slightly skeptical

[mossy venture]

That or abn650

[sage thunder]

more tweaking tools for other devices on windows

[crimson zinc]

3070 max

[manic cloak]

I thought i'd be able to cut corners using a 8400f for the build but it's like a spare 65-75$ for a gpu 😭

[plucky timber]

mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1

Don't cut corners

You end up with two corners

Instead of one

[vocal hare]

god dammit

[crimson zinc]

Don’t cut corners with that

[vocal hare]

it makes sense

[crimson zinc]

At that point, go 7500f

[vocal hare]

damn you boeing

[manic cloak]

they raised the prices on the 7500f btw

either cause the 7400f started to exist or something happened

[sage thunder]

sudo rm -fr ./* yourself NOW!

[manic cloak]

it's like an extra 20-25$ now

[plucky timber]

It's a troll metaphor but it's true

[crimson zinc]

$127

[plucky timber]

Cheaping out where you shouldn't will cost you more long term

[vocal hare]

I like envisioned it in my head and i'im like damn

it was like a stoner revelation

[plucky timber]

That'll be $14.99

[plucky timber]

WHAT

HOW

It should not be over $140

[manic cloak]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807706693952.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.13.628871e5Gb3iBJ&algo_pvid=3c4c742b-bd8d-4349-ab61-a0fa1283657a&algo_exp_id=3c4c742b-bd8d-4349-ab61-a0fa1283657a-6&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"90"%2C"eval"%3A"1"}&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!206.41!127.46!!!206.41!127.46!%402101ef5e17384794169336797e808c!12000042743321786!sea!US!0!ABX&curPageLogUid=AfL6OK4rxFL2&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

unless you meant this one

[crimson zinc]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256807706693952.html?_randl_currency=USD&_randl_shipto=US&src=google&pdp_npi=4@dis!USD!206.41!134.17!!!!!@!12000042743321786!ppc!!!&gQT=2

[weary galleon]

All the Ali CPUs have been going up

[manic cloak]

but it's sold out

[crimson zinc]

This one

My b

[manic cloak]

plus it's only like 90 sold

[sage thunder]

guys i heard sudo rm -fr ./* improves my performence on my steam deck because it deletes the french pack that bloatware im gonna try it

[manic cloak]

the only seller i'd go through on ali is like szCPU

or computer hardware store

[sage thunder]

why is my screen black

[weary galleon]

SZCPU has 8600G for $152 before coupons
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLB8IWr

[manic cloak]

thing is he can't get anything from aliexpress 😭 it was a what if kinda thing

[weary galleon]

Ah

[sage thunder]

is my build still good in terms of budget build?

[manic cloak]

yes the very original one

[manic cloak]

believe this one

[sage thunder]

this

also 32 gigs of ddr5 ram is pretty good (i think)

[manic cloak]

do you plan on getting 32gb or 16?

[sage thunder]

16 x 2

[potent portal]

? https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805723309001.html

[sage thunder]

so 32

[plucky timber]

I don't think anyone gets 2x8 these days

Or 1x16

[manic cloak]

cause

oh

what the

[weary galleon]

Yeah they seem better, I last checked about a week ago and they seemed oddly high

[sage thunder]

so do i get this instead of the original one that was in my cart?

[manic cloak]

cheaper and same speeds n what so

no clue if it's hynix though

I don't have the knowledge on that

[potent portal]

Should be with those timings

[sage thunder]

whats hynix mean… 😢

[potent portal]

SP likes M die

[potent portal]

Memory chip manufacturer, Hynix makes chips that overclock really well on DDR5

[manic cloak]

the company who makes the memory

there's hynix, samsung and a few others

I think atleast, maybe for DDR4

[sage thunder]

does it matter..?

or mah

nah*

[potent portal]

On DDR5, as long as it's not Samsung it's good

Samsung has pretty weak performance

[plucky timber]

Samsung fell off

[sage thunder]

so is that samsung?

[potent portal]

B die is the new C die

[plucky timber]

Phones, nand, everything they made is mid

I'm placing them below apple in terms of value

[sage thunder]

is this samsung or no

[potent portal]

The ones that everyone has shown so far should all be Hynix

[sage thunder]

okay

[sage thunder]

i love my 15 😼

[plucky timber]

Your what

[potent portal]

Most people here know generally how to avoid them. Samsung is common on 6000c36 kits so we target C32 or C30

[sage thunder]

iphone 15

😭

[sage thunder]

thanks u saved me like 15 bucks

[plucky timber]

I meant computers not phones

[manic cloak]

do you plan on using wifi or Ethernet

[plucky timber]

I'd still buy a mac mini/macbook at most

Phones are worse than samsung in value

[sage thunder]

wifi

and ethernet

[fallow knot]

Hey guys

[sage thunder]

incase im too lazy to plug in my ethernet

[fallow knot]

The msi z790 max Wi-Fi

What’s the Wi-Fi drivers called??