building-and-recc-chat

[analog hearth]

Sorry for long paragraph lol

[rain carbon]

id probably just save the money, if her 5700 is still kicking i dont see the point of doing a small upgrade when that could be put towards a superior upgrade

what resolution does she play?

[analog hearth]

I'm wanting to fully upgrade her. She's trying to run Minecraft with shaders and she's also been wanting to play some other games like Hogwarts Legacy (great for this time of the year tbh) but 8GB of VRAM just isn't enough for Hogwarts and the 5700 otherwise can't run shaders at a stable frame rate

[rain carbon]

yeah the vram is rough

[analog hearth]

Honestly kinda thinking of getting her a 7700 XT. I hate being in a relationship where the tech guy is has to say "I can build you a PC with spare parts. It'll still run games perfectly fine." Just seems lousy to me lol idk

[rain carbon]

its not even spare parts thats the issue, just the performance of it

[analog hearth]

Oooh wait a second I just thought

[rain carbon]

7700xt i think would honestly be worth it

[analog hearth]

My friend is selling his 6800 XT

I could probably get that for cheap

[rain carbon]

that would be much better

[analog hearth]

idk though. He OC'd it a little bit so idk its health atp

[rain carbon]

not as good ray ofc lol but i doubt shaders will need that much

[analog hearth]

Yeah I don't think she cares too much for RT

[rain carbon]

you should ask how long hes had it

[analog hearth]

a few years

I just asked him about the general health of it

[rain carbon]

i doubt oc would create that big of a lifespan issue

if cooling was good

[analog hearth]

Bruh if he deems that it's a healthy card, I could probably get that from him for like $200, maybe $150 if he doesn't mind stretching it

I mean it was water cooled

[rain carbon]

oh lmao yeah easy grab

[analog hearth]

It's an Asus TUF 6800 XT

[rain carbon]

id def just go for that if you were considering a 3060

its an actual upgrade too

[analog hearth]

Yeah I think I know my decision on that now lol. Solid GPU

I also have a 6800 XT but I plan on using it

Plus I think the HDMI port is dying on it and I'd rather not give her a card that's somewhat broken lol

[rain carbon]

understandable

i mean you could also get a dp to HDMI converter too

i doubt shes using multiple monitors at once anyway lol

[analog hearth]

that's true

She has two 1080p monitors

I won't be upgrading her any time soon though. She'll more than likely to be able to run stuff at med-high (maybe ultra?) settings on her 1080p 180Hz main panel

[rain carbon]

id be more than content at those specs personally

for general gaming thats more than enough

[analog hearth]

What worries me is power consumption. She pays for her own electric build. A 5900X and a RX 6800 XT is a big jump in power consumption when coming from a 12100F and an RX 5700

Like this is mostly going to be for a computer that's sitting at idle and doing work-related stuff. It's more that I want to upgrade her from what she currently has

[rain carbon]

4090s use less power than a toaster

[analog hearth]

lmaoo

[rain carbon]

i doubt itll be that big of an issue

[analog hearth]

Alright then

I'll probably still keep her current PC at her place in case she has a noticeably bigger energy bill anyways lol

[rain carbon]

lol id be terrified if it jumped up much

most general appliances will be more impactful than a pc

plus its not like the gpu is gonna be running at full power draw constantly yeah

[analog hearth]

I think I'm overreacting about it. It's really probably like not even a $5 jump

[rain carbon]

lmao yeah

[analog hearth]

Yeah I'm freaking out for sure then 💀

[rain carbon]

hey youre just being thoughtful

[analog hearth]

Whatever then. I'm going all out for her (yeah just a 6800 XT but that's still a phat upgrade for her)

yeah

nothing wrong with that

[rain carbon]

6800xt isnt the most effecient but (at least if you dont live in cali) power can be pretty friggen cheap

[analog hearth]

Yeah I'm excited for her

I'm for sure getting her the 5900X, RAM, and an Asus Crosshair VII Hero to host all of it for $200 (insane, I know). Just hopefully I can get this GPU from my friend for $150 (I think that's a decent price for it. I think he just wants to get rid of it atp. We'll see)

And then I'd just need cooling, storage, a case, and a power supply

Not too bad. The main components are like $350 total (hopefully)

[rain carbon]

just give her a 5990x at that point 🔥

[analog hearth]

lolll

I mean I wouldn't say my friend's 5900X has been babied, but it at least has been water cooled for all of its life

I think he tried getting it to 5GHz at one point 💀

And then it just crashed the whole PC

But idk we'll see

[rain carbon]

150 would be a REALLY good price, id honestly feel bad for the seller if i only paid that lol

i see 6800XTs going for 250+

[rain carbon]

poor cpu holy

[analog hearth]

Yeah maybe I could get the GPU for like $200. Still a steal at that price

[rain carbon]

even if he offered at 150 id still pay 200 to not rip him off lmao

[analog hearth]

Yeah probably

I'd rather not lose him as a friend after he realizes that I basically scammed him 💀

[rain carbon]

seeing how much he invested into the cpu versus the gpu for gaming he'd probably not realize lmao

honestly people overlook 6 cores too much imo

even with video rendering jumping up in cores only saves so much time

[analog hearth]

Yeah my friend made the decision to get a 9900X over a 9800X3D just for the extra cores. He does a lot of mountain biking and with that, he does some video editing too

[rain carbon]

some video editing but 500 dollars on a cpu

idk im just broke i just dont see the value LMAO

[analog hearth]

Some as in it's mostly trimming and that's it but he does a lot of that

This guy goes biking like every weekend and gets like a whole day's worth of content that he just edits throughout the week

[rain carbon]

same 1080p perf at half the core count with the 9600x

idk why you dont just buy the 9800x3d

and get the 9900x

not to mention most people dont buy high end chips for 1080p

[distant yoke]

Looking for some advice on other options for mobo, ssd and gpu. Unless they're alright as it is. I'm basically set on the rest. The help is appreciated. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7TZnHW

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zJWJ7P/phanteks-xt-pro-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-xt523p1-bk01 actually going with this case, just didn't put time to change it

[analog hearth]

Man I wish they'd make that case in white

I don't even care about white tax. that case is already cheap wtf

[analog hearth]

People may or may not yell at you for going with Intel. What would I say? I would say just update the BIOS as soon as you get your parts. Probably the only advice I can give tbh

Also, if you wanted some RGB in that build, I recommend these fans:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CK213XT4

They're a dupe of the Lian Li INF UNI fans and they work just as good

[distant yoke]

I know, it mentions to update bios for gen 13/14

Nah, I'm good on rgb

[analog hearth]

Actually probably due to compatibility. I would say you won't have an issue with that. But definitely update the BIOS so you don't have overheating issues

[distant yoke]

Thanks for the recommendation and tips

[fallow knot]

should i get a i7-14700KF?

[dusky hearth]

why would you

[analog hearth]

What's your situation like? Do you have a build? Is it already an Intel-based build?

[fallow knot]

im at an 15 11400F and it seems theres a decent deal at my best buy

so im wondering if i should pick it up and upgrade my b560

[analog hearth]

Nah don't get a 14700KF (or any Intel CPU later than that). Switch to Ryzen, as you'll need a new motherboard anyways

[fallow knot]

what would be your recommendation? i mostly edit videos and play Rust

[dusky hearth]

if you have a microcenter, a x3d bundle

[fallow knot]

sadly no microcenter near me

[dusky hearth]

sadge

[fallow knot]

nearest one is Tustin lol

[analog hearth]

Go with something like a 7600X or a 7800X(3D if you can afford it). I wouldn't bother with Ryzen 9000 atm

[dusky hearth]

or 7600f or whatever it was on aliexpress

[fallow knot]

7800X3D all sold out at my best buy :/

[analog hearth]

lol I figured

[dusky hearth]

yeah scalpers + high demand

x3d kinda just gone

[fallow knot]

riperoni

im trying to atleast upgrade before these tariffs start hitting haha

[analog hearth]

Honestly any Ryzen CPU that's either the 7600 or better would be a really good upgrade from where you're currently at

And then just get some DDR5 6000 MHz memory

[rain carbon]

id honestly say you should snag a 7700 if you can get it for 250 or less

[crimson zinc]

7500f from aliexpress @fallow knot

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006997279788.html

[cyan ravine]

I am the one who suggested intels

[analog hearth]

oh my bad lol

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/throne-king-lazy-turn-around-gif-17119852

Who dares challenge my ruling

[analog hearth]

I still need to get my Intel platform swapped back in bruh

[potent portal]

i5 is still fine, as long as they're aware it's a dead end

[cyan ravine]

Yep yep

Long ago discussed

MANY MOONS (2 days) ago

[analog hearth]

You still won't have to upgrade from that CPU until maybe like three CPU generations at the minimum

I planned to keep my 13700K for five years after getting it

[potent portal]

Depends on what GPUs do and what you upgrade to later

[analog hearth]

yeah exactly

rn I'm looking at AMD for when they release 8000 series

[cyan ravine]

Well if I recall my explanation, it was that for his needs the next logical step would be X3D which is currently expensive

So the value of selling a cpu later may as well be factored with the motherboard since the price difference to AM5 was a lot more than $50

[potent portal]

I'm curious what your takes are on the 5090D. We already know how powerful it will be, and that's barely better than the 4090D, thanks to US legislation restricting how powerful it can be.

[cyan ravine]

It will unlikely even release

The DoJ has already threatened NVIDIA and shut down the 4090D before

Trying the same tactic again won't work

[analog hearth]

Wait we have a limit now?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[potent portal]

For a while

[analog hearth]

bruh we already can't even run games at a stable frame rate

that's mad goofy bruh

I hate it here

[cyan ravine]

NVIDIA has vested American interests

So the US government is enforcing a performance control on China exports for gpus

Hence the 5090D and 4090D

"Dragon"

[potent portal]

This is exclusively a China market model since the US gov doesn't want US companies to provide powerful hardware that can be used for AI to China

[cyan ravine]

Yep

And the ironic part is they can just export to Indonesia then to china

But it's no longer the problem of the US if they do that

[flint sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[cyan ravine]

But the 5090D and 4090D arguably still exist as it's double shipping which is expensive

But the DoJ allowing that? They've already said they'll stop a second attempt iirc

So I don't think it'll happen

[flint sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-i-am-the-senate-gif-10270130

Aight im out

[cyan ravine]

Bye the Senate

[analog hearth]

Bye the Senate

[distant yoke]

@cyan ravine sorry to ask you again, also I missed out on the ssd on woot instead of just going for it

[cyan ravine]

The M482 eco pack is still good

2TB

[analog hearth]

"eco" in the name doesn't sound good to me

[cyan ravine]

I had it listed earlier

[analog hearth]

Sounds like those ADATA green SSDs

[cyan ravine]

I really don't understand why they call it eco

But it's been checked out, it's just a good ssd

[analog hearth]

interesting

"Eco-Pack" bruh what's the difference lol

[cyan ravine]

It's a pack of 1 too

[analog hearth]

oh gotcha

[cyan ravine]

I really don't understand what they're thinking

[analog hearth]

bruh like what

[cyan ravine]

Micro brains international

[analog hearth]

Can't even list the price of an SSD properly smh

pricing a 2TB SSD as a 1TB SSD what were they thinking?

lol

[cyan ravine]

WAIT MAYBE ECO PACK MEANS PAPER PACKAGING

[potent portal]

Yes that's exactly it

It ships in a plastic case in an envelope

It just refers to there being less packaging

[cyan ravine]

So it's just an m482 which is a good drive

I have learneded

[stoic island]

It's just not in the usual cardboard box format

[potent portal]

Comparable to a 980 Pro iirc

[cyan ravine]

I've been working under the idea it was a separate version

[distant yoke]

Huh

Why if its based on packaging

[cyan ravine]

It's the cheapest version

[analog hearth]

YO I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOOD AT THINKING AT ALL

WE'RE SO BAD AT HAVING BRAINS

[distant yoke]

Alright, I'll try and order them soon, but still wondering about mobo and gpu

[cyan ravine]

What happened about those

[distant yoke]

Just if there are other options

The gpu, honestly it 410 now but the shipping date is like jan 7

Also if there other similar options for mobo

[cyan ravine]

Board I'd still go with

[distant yoke]

Ok

[cyan ravine]

Gpu you could consider this

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4RrRsY/xfx-radeon-rx-6750-xt-12-gb-speedster-qick-319-core-video-card-rx-675xyjfdp

Significant drop but also significant price drop

[distant yoke]

Yee

[cyan ravine]

Otherwise....mostly the same if you care about the aesthetic

Considerable
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pdcgXL/asus-dual-oc-radeon-rx-7700-xt-12-gb-video-card-90yv0jz0-m0aa00

Couldn't really suggest anything higher given it's 1080p

[distant yoke]

I'm just looking to run games better, not maxing out. Also quality/reliability for the price as much as possible

[cyan ravine]

Ye don't worry I'm not sacrificing quality or reliability

Having something a little bit over the top is good given new cod is involved

It's a heavy game

So thinking about it in terms of it trying to bring the PC down to size for performance lol

[analog hearth]

@cyan ravine Quick question. Good AIO? I asked about another AIO but I forgot whether it was this one or another one you said was bad
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ywJp99/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-280-a-rgb-699-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00151a

Gonna be for a 5900X that I'm giving my gf

[cyan ravine]

Which case

[analog hearth]

Lian Li O11 Air Mini (lol)

Still kinda deciding the case though

[distant yoke]

Well,not aiming for the newest yet, just based on heavy games in general

[cyan ravine]

ATX board?

[analog hearth]

It'll be housing an Asus TUF 6800 XT. I'm getting the CPU and GPU from my friend, so good used parts from a guy I trust hasn't broken them lol

yeah ATX

Asus Crosshair VIII (I think) Hero

[cyan ravine]

Yeah I still think I'm sticking to the suggestion

[cyan ravine]

Montech xr? Air 1000?

XT pro?

[distant yoke]

Which would you be best recommend?

[analog hearth]

I've barely shopped around but a 360mm AIO would be nice if I can fit it in the case. I barely just picked out some parts

[cyan ravine]

I would lean towards the 7700XT given our discussions

[analog hearth]

lemme get the parts list one sec. so you know what I'm working with

[cyan ravine]

Aqua elite v3 is $53

White

Rgb

Fits in montech xr

Not o11 air mini

[analog hearth]

Man I might as well go that route

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cWmFGJ

[cyan ravine]

If she likes showey that's showey on a budget

[distant yoke]

The asus you gave, right?

[cyan ravine]

Cheaper and nicer than an o11 air mini imo (And I daily one)

[analog hearth]

Me? Possibly. Depends on whether my friend still wants to sell it

[cyan ravine]

Yeah the dual isn't bad. It's a bit thicker and denser than other coolers

[cyan ravine]

No ur mom

[analog hearth]

okay man

[distant yoke]

Sorry, different convo

[analog hearth]

Yo that Montech XR is $70 at MC

[cyan ravine]

XR is good

[analog hearth]

Might just go pick that up later

[cyan ravine]

Comes with fan and RGB hub

That's like $20

Lol

The value of montech cases is vastly understated

[analog hearth]

maybe the AIO too if they have it (doubt it. They have mostly coarse hair and Liam Lib)

[cyan ravine]

Often get a full fan set AND a controller

[analog hearth]

Probably gonna get some off-brand Lian Li UNI fan equivalent

They perform just as good and look basically the same

[cyan ravine]

Maybe a sale with Eee Kay

[analog hearth]

they're like $27 rn on Amazon

[cyan ravine]

Sama sells some on the cheap

Like $15 for 3

[analog hearth]

yo link?

[cyan ravine]

I can't remember the name cos it's stupid complicated

They're easy to find tho

Amazon

[analog hearth]

holy crap
https://www.amazon.com/SAMA-Computer-Infinite-Cooling-Airflow/dp/B0CXTF3K6Q?th=1

oh this is just a single fan though

[cyan ravine]

Whoa reverse layout now

Yo

They upgraded

[analog hearth]

They're running out on Amazon though. I think imma still get the ICOLER (the off brand ones I was mentioning)

these guys
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CZ417FH1

these are reverse. they have a regular option too of course

Literally just Lian Li fans

[cyan ravine]

I color Sam a strange guy in my books

[analog hearth]

man what

💀

[cyan ravine]

So are the sam a's

[analog hearth]

yeah but these aren't almost out of stock lol

[cyan ravine]

Hmmm got no bearing on those

The samas tho I had an old source

[analog hearth]

somebody here in the server got these icoler fans before and said they perform the exact same as Lian Li fans lol

I think these come from a supplier and the lesser known brand sells them for cheaper

[cyan ravine]

Being the same as unifans is a bad thing tho

[analog hearth]

You think?

why so?

[cyan ravine]

Unifans suck for performance

Even clones do better lmao

[analog hearth]

Oh you mean specifically Lian Li Unifans?

[potent portal]

No the problem is they DON'T suck, when they should

[analog hearth]

lolll

not enough sucking and not enough blowing
(can I say this? it's related to fans I swear)

[cyan ravine]

They couldn't work out how to fix the design eating into like 20% of the standard fan surface area so they decided to make them wider

Which makes them incompatible in soooo many cases

[analog hearth]

bruh

[potent portal]

Plus the frame being thicker means less fan blade surface area which means less airflow

[cyan ravine]

Dare wonder if even that montech has issues cos the fans are neatly behind the gpu

Ye

[analog hearth]

the XR?

[cyan ravine]

Plus L connect I found still is just about as bad as it used to be

[potent portal]

Newer uni fans have mostly solved this but those first like 3 models all are terrible

[cyan ravine]

Yep

The side fans are snug

[cyan ravine]

Still underwhelming despite that

[analog hearth]

may or may not vertically mount her GPU anyways lol idk yet (maybe not. it probably wouldn't get enough air)

[cyan ravine]

Ah alr

[potent portal]

Mostly fixed is still partly bad

[fallow knot]

okay well i went to bestbuy and i just picked up the i7-13700K for 225 since they gave me a 25dollars off for being a member

what motherboard, ram and aircooler should i get?

[analog hearth]

air cooling a 13700K? Good luck. But I've heard some people have some decent luck with the Noctua NH-D15

I think it's just barely good enough for the 13900K too (could be wrong idk)

[tawny violet]

I believe Thermalright coolers CAN tame a 13700k

The big 140mm fan ones

Frost Commander 140 and Frost Spirit 140

But I'd recommend water-cooling too @fallow knot

[fallow knot]

ive never installed an AIO is it annoying?

[analog hearth]

not at all

[tawny violet]

Arctic Liquid Freezer III in whatever size fits your case (assuming at least a 240 fits in it)

[analog hearth]

Get something like a 280mm or a 360mm AIO

[tawny violet]

240 LF3 might be borderline but so would an air cooler

@fallow knot what's your case?

[analog hearth]

240mm on a 13700K is crazy imo

Maybe do a push-pull config with that

(maybe)

[tawny violet]

LF3 can do it

It's legitimately that good

[analog hearth]

(Be my experiment. Get a 240mm AIO and make it a push-pull config. tell me the results lol)

oh gotcha

[fallow knot]

Deepcool Matrexx 50

[tawny violet]

IIRC that can fit a 360

But don't quote me on that rn

Would have to check

[fallow knot]

does it really heat up that badly?

[tawny violet]

Yeah 13th and 14th gen Intel K chips are notorious for being power hungry and heat up a lot

[analog hearth]

Should mostly be fixed after updating the BIOS though

[tawny violet]

Pretty sure they still draw excessive amounts of power
Just at safe voltages

[analog hearth]

figured lol

[tawny violet]

They won't fry themselves but they're still power hogs

[fallow knot]

oof

[tawny violet]

Edit the swear out

[fallow knot]

was thinking of buying the 9800X3D out of stock too

[tawny violet]

It'd be better in games and draw less power tbf

But you already got the 13700K so oh well

[fallow knot]

on a deal 😄

[tawny violet]

It still works out well enough cuz the 13700K is still bloody fast

[fallow knot]

yeah for 100 dollars cheaper than the 14th gen pretty fair tbh

[tawny violet]

Are you savvy with overclocking and manually tuning things?

[fallow knot]

naw sir im just a gamer on the side

[tawny violet]

Cuz there are pretty sizable gains to find with manual tuning with that chip

But IDK if you'd be interested in that

[fallow knot]

i mean i know how to update my bios but I wouldn't know where to even begin fine tuning

someone said "does not fix a 360 AIO" for the case

im guessing they meant fit

[balmy lichen]

Usually better to buy used before or after Christmas?

[shut rampart]

I guess it’s coming at 6am to 8pm even tho it’s 2pm and it’s not even out for delivery looks like a reschedule again :/

[molten ferry]

Currently have a pc I have been using for a while I game on it mostly cod and league I’m looking to start streaming and wondering what the next thing to upgrade would be this is what I have currently

It won’t let me send a picture so I will write it out

Pc specs
Mag B650 motherboard
1660 super
Amd ryzen 5 7600x
32gb ddr5 ram
1tb m.2 drive

[potent portal]

You'll need a GPU upgrade to get a better encoder for recording

That's about it

Possibly power supply

[molten ferry]

Any recommendations? I believe my power supply is 650w

[mossy venture]

We'd need the model name to say if its good or not

[molten ferry]

Ahhh I’ll get it when I’m off work thanks btw

[mossy venture]

Np

[crimson zinc]

@stable dagger @mossy venture so Sam here is a little convinced on getting a 3090

[stable dagger]

Nah not really jest what I can get best fps per dollar which usually falls under amd

[crimson zinc]

What is your budget for a gpu?

[stable dagger]

Like 400 max 300 350 where I would like to be

[crimson zinc]

Would you be okay with used? Or new?

[stable dagger]

Ebay I've seen 6900 xt sell fir 350 400 used

Used new is to$$

[crimson zinc]

Gotcha.

[stable dagger]

My specs right now for my new build is i7 12700k 64gb ddr5 1600w p+ evga psu msi z790 a pro wifi case is a anidees ai crystal xl pro

[fleet pagoda]

I just installed a new cpu and my pc isnt booting

What to do

The dram and cpu light are going red on the motherboard

[stable dagger]

Usually your ram is not seated right or faulty ram

[fleet pagoda]

It was working before i switched the cpus though

[stable dagger]

Then your cpu is probably dead or your motherboard does not have the bios updated for the cpu

What cpu

[fleet pagoda]

I7 14700k

[stable dagger]

And what was the previous cpu

[fleet pagoda]

I5 12600k

[stable dagger]

Then your gunna need a bios update for 14th gen

[fleet pagoda]

Should i just put the old cpu back in and update the bios

Ah okay

[stable dagger]

Yup

[fleet pagoda]

Thanks

[stable dagger]

Usually that works

[analog hearth]

@rain carbon WWWW

[rain carbon]

huge win

[shut rampart]

@cyan ravine my friend still lags hes using g pro wireless max pulling is 1k..

[fleet pagoda]

Im getting a bios id check error when trying to update

How to fix

[bitter mason]

maybe try the thing where you update bios why the computer is off with a usb stick & a button on the motherboard

[analog hearth]

polling*

It's more than likely an interference thing

That’s why you don't get the wireless option for absolutely all peripherals

[shut rampart]

so what do I do

plugin the mouse?

[fleet pagoda]

I downloaded rev 1.4 and not 1.0 so maybe that was why

[fleet pagoda]

Still isnt working

[analog hearth]

yes

[rain bloom]

Is the new recommended AMD deal the way to go for a combo on newegg since that mobo went out of stock? I don't particularly care about RGB

Also what does E-ATX mean compared to normal ATX?

[mossy venture]

What combo?

[mossy venture]

Id do this

Though that mobo doesn't have wifi

Much better VRMS

[rain bloom]

So I'd have to buy a wifi adapter?

[potent portal]

EATX isn't a real standard but it generally means the board is wider than ATX

[languid nimbus]

Corsair vengeance 🤢

[rain bloom]

So if it says it can fit EATX it can fit normal ATX?

[potent portal]

Yes

And Micro ATX and Mini ITX for that matter

[rain bloom]

The one I wanted doesn't combo, I'm trying to save money and realizing I shot myself in the foot

Also anyone see a 7900 xt that isn't out of stock, overpriced, or white? I'm riding the struggle bus tonight

[rain bloom]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2km7TM
Updated build missing a GPU, thoughts? I might just have to wait on the GPU at this point...

[mossy venture]

Ssd ram and mobo need changing

Rest looks alright

I changed monitor and psu too, but those are less important differences
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bKbV74

[rain bloom]

Ram and mobo are comboed with the CPU, can I save money while breaking the combo?

[mossy venture]

Ohh hm

[mossy venture]

Well first you can build your own combo

You don't need to use specifically those

7600, b650m hdv and 32gb 6400c32 from corsair is $360 and you can add a wifi card

That mobo is a lot better than the-s wifi

[rain bloom]

Also it looks like they're cheaper full stop on Amazon anyways so it might not be worth trying to combo?

[mossy venture]

-s wifi is bottom tier, the hdv holds the world record oc with a 7950x

[mossy venture]

Hm?

Oh do you mean with that mobo and ram i linked?

[rain bloom]

Yeah it looks like amazon has the cpu, mobo, and ram you linked cheaper on Amazon than trying to combo with Newegg's system

Any ideas for a GPU? Or just wait until the 7900 XT comes back in stock?

Also I just realized that case is cheap because it has shipping, should I switch or is that still a good choice?

[mossy venture]

Thats up to you, 4070 super open box is $500 rn which isn't bad

The vram will be limiting down the line though

[mossy venture]

Also just personal preference

As long as it's got a mesh front and decent airflow youre fine

Montech xr is also $75 and is one of my favorite cases atm

Sky two gx also looks sick

[rain bloom]

Good call on the montech, it's shipping normally now so bonus

Is a 4070 super TI worth it? Looks like it clocks just below the 7900 XT

[cyan ravine]

Price wise never is

7900XT you can get near 600 and that includes the white Phantom gaming near 630

[vale epoch]

I… paid around that much for my 4070super…

[rain bloom]

Yeah the issue I'm running into is they're all out of stock rn, so if I go with my plan I either wait or make the switch

[vale epoch]

Could do gre as well

Or fall into the abyss with me with a 4070 super

[cyan ravine]

GRE yeah good suggestion

GRE might have a steel legend on the cheap

[vale epoch]

Hmm maybe the dual fan challenger one

Pretty sure most gre’s never go below sub 550

Looks like the gre is out of stock too

Scalpers alr charging 8 hundies

[cyan ravine]

The challenger one is worth spending $10 to get a different model imo

They just continually demonstrate poor paste on those

[rain bloom]

Only 7900 GRE I see is the powercolor figher OC for $550

[vale epoch]

…

[cyan ravine]

That's a solid pick

[vale epoch]

That one’s nice stays pretty cool too i had one for 2 weeks

[cyan ravine]

I dig, or even 7800xt for 430

[vale epoch]

I returned it in favor of a 7900xt if ur concerned

[rain bloom]

These will be able to handle 1440 165 hz?

[vale epoch]

Depends on games

[cyan ravine]

Should be just fine

[vale epoch]

They can handle cyberpunk in 1440p should be great for most games

[rain bloom]

Nothing crazy but also hoping to not have to upgrade until a part croaks ya know? I mostly play fighting games ans single player JRPGs

So if I'm gonna buy now that 7900 GRE is probably the best bet?

[cyan ravine]

You'll be completely overkilled by a 7800xt

Yeah you'll be fine

Fighting games are typically lightweight

Jrpgs to a good degree as well, light to medium

[vale epoch]

I haven’t tried a multiplayer game yet have I

[rain bloom]

I dunno, new tekken is not particularly well optimized lol. I heard the new monster hunter beta was optimized like trash as well

[vale epoch]

Newer games are like that rn

Especially ue5 titles

[cyan ravine]

Tbf, those were the only two exceptions in my head

[vale epoch]

Brought the 4090 to its knees… in 1440p

[cyan ravine]

Monhun was optimised for frame gen which is just....what

[rain bloom]

great minds!

[cyan ravine]

Frame gen adds a 60ms latency hit

[vale epoch]

Worlds is the best mh

[cyan ravine]

So like

[vale epoch]

Unless the hardware can natively get 60 frames right?

[cyan ravine]

They made the game, a hard game for dodging

With a latency hit

[rain bloom]

I've played tekken at local events and they only have one portable rig that can run 8, slows everything down lol

[vale epoch]

Wbt upscaling? Does upscaling have a latency hit?

[cyan ravine]

Nice 4090 there

Upscaling is negligible

Frame gen is a hit regardless of brand

But you'll get playable 1440 at least on a gre @rain bloom

Tekken tho? Can't say, know basically no one playing it

[vale epoch]

He will love the vram

[cyan ravine]

But every other fighter game is fine

[vale epoch]

Meanwhile me touching crash levels with 11.7 gigs of consumption in cyberpunk

[rain bloom]

I'm coming from a 1660 super jumping from 1080 to 1440, I'm gonna be elated no matter what lol

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[vale epoch]

Make sure to play elden ring…

[cyan ravine]

Well if you get anything playable off that, multiply your fps by around 3x

Welcome to GRE

More or less

[crimson zinc]

Make sure to play destiny

[cyan ravine]

Sorry

4x

I had the numbers off a little

[rain bloom]

Part picker lied to me, no GRE

[vale epoch]

[vale epoch]

Square that number and divide it with 2 if u dare

[cyan ravine]

What about 7800xt

[rain bloom]

I played a fair bit of D1, barely played D2

[cyan ravine]

I know how this ends

[vale epoch]

You do not

[rain bloom]

See more options for that! Does it matter which one I pick or should I just go cheapish?

[cyan ravine]

I mean

Between "out of stock" and "available"

💀

Go with what you can find

Lmao

Don't restrict yourself to one store btw, we don't get paid to have you buy off newegg

Buy wherever

[rain bloom]

Definitely should have bought the GPU on Friday and did the rest today

Bacca helped me with a build earlier that barely uses Newegg, I see the price savings is king here and I love it

[vale epoch]

Will i go to hell if i suggest this? https://a.co/d/2CzvMZC

…

It looks cool ok

[rain bloom]

Nah, they actually had 7900 XTs on Friday is what I was joking since that's what I was gunning for at first, this whole thing being under $1300 is looking pretty sweet to me

[cyan ravine]

Modest white tax is fine

7800xt has been low as 430

[rain bloom]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VDDmgn
This is what I'm looking at now, the new Orpheus 1440 machine

[vale epoch]

Looks like the regular xfx swft is for 450

Shipped and sold by amazon too

https://a.co/d/in1cv9B

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fQkH99/xfx-quicksilver-magnetic-air-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-78tmairf9

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WbxxFT/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx7900xt-pgw-20go what's available soon mean

Oh it's in stock @rain bloom

White 7900xt on Amazon for 670 isn't bad

[vale epoch]

YOO

[vale epoch]

From asrock too

[cyan ravine]

Sold direct by asrock

[rain bloom]

Avaialable soon means it may come in stock soon but it will probably not be on any sort of sale anymore when it does from what I can tell

[cyan ravine]

It's in stock

[vale epoch]

Man kinda wish they put this shroud in for the gre or the 7900xt

[cyan ravine]

They did

[vale epoch]

Its only for the 7800xt and 7900xtx i believe

[rain bloom]

Would the white severely clash with everything I'm doing here?

[vale epoch]

They did?!

Kinda might

[cyan ravine]

Gre

Not xt

Yet

[cyan ravine]

I have no idea what your build is

[vale epoch]

All black

[rain bloom]

This was my build list

[cyan ravine]

Ah yes

White gpu looking like sneakers there

Nike asrock lah centrepiece

Hmm

[vale epoch]

Imagine there were white dbrand skins or stickers u could apply over mobo heatsinks

[cyan ravine]

I mean the 7800xt is fine but spend as cheap as you can bar the challenger

If you're concerned over looks

Or

Wait a week

Cos honestly they'll all be back in stock

Amd wouldn't just stop shipping

[rain bloom]

I was gonna say it kinda sounds like the 7800xt should do what I need or I can just hit buy on everything else today

[dusky hearth]

if it's a vinyl sticker that might be a detriment

[vale epoch]

Tru

[dusky hearth]

vinyl is a bit of a insulator

[vale epoch]

Could trap the heat right

[dusky hearth]

if they made aluminium stickers, may be fine

[vale epoch]

I doubt there stickers readily available for a specific mobo design tbh

[dusky hearth]

well, dbrand has a cutting machine

[cyan ravine]

It kinda will

[rain bloom]

When you say kinda what do you mean in this instance? It's just gonna have to work harder or some stuff just won't be on ultra?

[cyan ravine]

Just some stuff won't be on ultra

[crimson zinc]

Play it now

[indigo kindle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wBbcqH

Anything to change? Hard set on 4080s

I have a corsair AIO already

[rain bloom]

Oof, MSI SSD is out of stock, is there a good replacement? @mossy venture

[indigo kindle]

What about sillicon power value gaming 32gb ddr5 6000 cl30

Sweet

[sudden jewel]

One of these days I’ll get to Microcenter. But I’m thinking I’ll go with the 7600x3d. Should be roughly the same performance in 4k.

[rain bloom]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B996CJ64?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
Is this worth the money saved?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2VJgXL/teamgroup-mp44l-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpk002t0c101

[rain bloom]

Thank you!

Do you have an opinion on grabbing the 7800XT vs waiting for a 7900XT?

[mossy venture]

Oh I guess 7900 gre stock is gone, that sucks

7800xt is a pretty big drop from the 7900xt, but its still a very solid 1440p card

Stock starting to dry up typically means they're getting ready to release new cards but we've no date yet. If I were buying a gpu right now my choice would either be a cheapish temporary card or a used gpu personally

[rain bloom]

I suppose I could buy a 7800xt for relatively cheap and then upgrade if it doesn't work as I need it to?

And yeah I know we're close to new cards, I hear NVIDIA especially is gearing up

[mossy venture]

Oh for sure, I mean 7800xt will handle 1440p gaming like a champ

Imo it's the high end of the mid range

6900xt refurbs seem to be about $460
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126614654180?

If i remember right the 6900xt=7900 gre, just uses more power

[rain bloom]

I think I'll go with the 7800xt if it can handle what I need! Presumably 3 fans over 2 for the xfx swift?

[mossy venture]

Id go for
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fQkH99/xfx-quicksilver-magnetic-air-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-78tmairf9

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GYfxFT/xfx-speedster-qick-319-core-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-78tqickf9

[rain bloom]

What's the difference between those two?

[mossy venture]

Afaik just aesthetic, could be a small performance difference but nothing noticeable

[snow wasp]

@cyan ravine Hey how you doing? You helped me getting couple of components, especially a lequid cooler and RAM. My 5800x3d is here, i bought it 2nd hand, so i was hoping you can advice me in terms of testing and stuff since it's an used CPU, the seller did say that he didn't use it that long, not sure how true it is 😄

[mossy venture]

Maybe the first one has a better cooler, not sure

[vale epoch]

The fans come off

They attach magnetically

Its cool af

[mossy venture]

Oh that's cool

Id definitely pay $10 for that

Also would look sick in a red/black blackout build

[vale epoch]

Also uses phase change thermal pads or smth

[snow wasp]

Also @mossy venture i would appreciate if you can advise as well 🙂

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bxjb8Q

Just for fun

[mossy venture]

Did you alr install the cpu?

[rain bloom]

Would that red look alright with the case fans on the Montech XR?

[mossy venture]

Imo yes, but thats a personal thing

Also the rgb can be changed

[vale epoch]

Gotta love montech selling quality cases for a good price with quality fans pre installed

[mossy venture]

It looks so good too

I miss the xr being $55

[rain bloom]

Best Buy is coming in clutch tonight, guess I shouldn't make fun of them as much as I do

[vale epoch]

I got mine for 65 bucks

[mossy venture]

Oh I hate best buy as a company but they do sometimes have good sales lmao

[vale epoch]

But the sky two gx seems really great

[mossy venture]

Best buy sucks

They owe me $200

[vale epoch]

Like a better more aesthetic version of the 903 air

[cyan ravine]

Used 32gb kit for $30, 3200MHz-ish and not corsair.
Cooler? ID cooling A620 SE is $29.99 rn, solid pick

[vale epoch]

Do you guys have any air coolers in mind that give off just a simple minimalistic white light instead of full on rgb?

[cyan ravine]

A simple RGB cooler set to white?

[vale epoch]

My mobo hates rgb software

(Its asus)

[cyan ravine]

Why you guys have so many issues with asus

I daily 2 rigs and have 0 issues

I used to have tons

They've gotten better 💀

[vale epoch]

Their current bios’s seem to have a conflict with rgb software like openrgb and signal too

[cyan ravine]

Have you tried just using armoury for a bit

Or WDL

[vale epoch]

I would have to flash bios for that

[cyan ravine]

Worth it imo

If you can tailor your rig to use OS level RGB control it's W

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6tYRsY/id-cooling-se-224-xts-70-cfm-cpu-cooler-se-224-xts-white

I agree with felix tho

Aio is also an option

[rain bloom]

Bacca is there a similar PSU to the one you posted? This one is very delayed compared to the rest of the rig (mid december)

[cyan ravine]

A750GL or A850GL are the current picks

[mossy venture]

What psu was it?

[cyan ravine]

Nothing beats them

70 or 85 dollars

[mossy venture]

It mightve been the agl

[vale epoch]

Hmm i have a montech xr and running a 7800x3d and aio wouldn’t give me any benefit other than aesthetics ig

[rain bloom]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CB9MSJ5N/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[cyan ravine]

Lol

We still suggest it

It's just good value for $85

Worth the wait

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mW4Ycf/super-flower-leadex-platinum-850-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-850f14mp

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FKZXsY/enermax-revolution-df-2-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ers850ewt

Those aren't bad choices tho

[rain bloom]

If i was gonna wait that long I'd have just waited for the 7900 xt lol

[cyan ravine]

Ooo ok that's a new one

[mossy venture]

Among the best psus just not atx 3.0, so would need an adapter down the line for upgrades

[vale epoch]

The name sounds so anime ngl

I love it

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/X94Ycf/super-flower-leadex-v-platinum-pro-850-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-850f14tp

Idk if this one's better, same price

[vale epoch]

I was looking at one when i was getting my be quiet pure power but it was like 135 bucks

[cyan ravine]

I dig this one

That competes to AGL if not a little better

[cyan ravine]

Believe this is the slightly noisier variant

[vale epoch]

So abt the 12vhpwr, be quiet recommends you to not bend it too close to base is that the case for other brands too?

[cyan ravine]

Meh from memory

[indigo kindle]

Recommendation for 2tb ssd for 4080s/7800x3d build

[cyan ravine]

To avoid pins unseating yes

Leads to resistance variation in the socket

And thus

Melted plug

[vale epoch]

Man i hate this connection

[cyan ravine]

[vale epoch]

Pain in the ass to remove

And can barely hear a click when connecting

[cyan ravine]

So many are like that

Only a couple brands have worked out proper connectors so far

[vale epoch]

I miss pcie/vga

[vale epoch]

Like?

[cyan ravine]

MP44L $92

[cyan ravine]

Cablemod and MSI

[vale epoch]

Rare msi w?

[rain bloom]

Comes with a free fan, might put that in my old PC to sell to my brother lol

[cyan ravine]

MSI uses yellowed cable plugs

So you can always tell if it's not plugged in correctly

[potent portal]

Wireview is good too, it has thermal shutoff

[cyan ravine]

What the TG??

Fr?

That's a W if true

Ok TG, Cablemod, MSI

[vale epoch]

Are those compatible with my be quiet pure power 12 m?

[cyan ravine]

Cablemod has proper connectors, like, they clamp and never let go now, very well made

And as you noticed, thermal grizzly has a thermal cutoff

All 3 good executions

[potent portal]

$54 to save your $2000+ GPU from self death https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/wireview-gpu/s-tg-wv-h1r

[cyan ravine]

The TG pricey tho

If you want something more affordable @vale epoch the Cablemod extensions are cheap

[vale epoch]

Or is 12vhpwr not proprietary if both ends are 12vhpwr?

[cyan ravine]

It clips on the end

[potent portal]

It's part of the ATX 3.0 standard

Not proprietary

[vale epoch]

Damn so i can use any 12vhpwr cable?

I’m sure its not recommended

[potent portal]

Yes*

[cyan ravine]

Idk about that

[vale epoch]

But food for thought

[vale epoch]

Bruh they have extensions for everything 😭

[potent portal]

Look for things that say "12V-2x6" in particular, it's an update to the 12VHPWR standard that's harder to screw up

Shorter sense pins so you're less likely to not plug all the way in, split end so it's easier to plug in, little things like that

[cyan ravine]

Supposedly still isn't a true fix tho

According to repair centres

[potent portal]

Yes it is still possible to melt it but it takes actual effort to do now

[rain bloom]

Thank you very much for all of your help over the past few days, will make sure to share when it's ready!

[cyan ravine]

I'm interested in that wireview though

My Dan A3 uses a rather aggressive bend under pressure

I can't avoid it

[vale epoch]

Oh i think thats the type that came with my psu

[potent portal]

Yep that'll be it

[vale epoch]

I somehow managed to not bend mine sharply in my xr

God bless montech

[indigo kindle]

Is team group MP33 2tb ssd fine?

[cyan ravine]

@potent portal wireview pro has temp detection

[vale epoch]

Actually… i’m kind of worried now

[potent portal]

Ah that was it

[cyan ravine]

2 things

1. Not nearly enough

2. 4070 super doesn't get this

Lol

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[vale epoch]

Whats the longevity on these cables btw? Incase i get the chance to upgrade in the future

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[vale epoch]

No one knows

Ig it makes sense given it hasn’t stayed around long enough unlike pcie or vga port

Or 6+2

[potent portal]

It varies wildly by manufacturer too

[cyan ravine]

Ah dammit I can't make it fit

May as well get the vertical mount

Same price

💀

[vale epoch]

Bro is turning pcmr

[snow wasp]

i already bought everything i need with your advise, so i just wanted to know what sort of test i should do to test the 2nd hand 5800x3d

these are the ones you told me to buy, do you remember?

[snow wasp]

it's coming tomorrow

[cyan ravine]

Ah, remember now. That looks all fine

[snow wasp]

😄

[cyan ravine]

I mean you test, temps aren't 90C, you're ok

[snow wasp]

remember my issue started with me couldn't put 4 of my ram sticks cuz Noctua taking all the space inside the case

[cyan ravine]

Star Citizen itself is probably a good enough test tbh

Ya I recall now lol

[snow wasp]

oh yeah for sure haha

[cyan ravine]

I'd just do wet tests with games

No need for overcomplicating

[snow wasp]

btw i put the 64gb ram and sc still giving the exact same lag experience, that means i'm heavily bottle necked by my cpu

[cyan ravine]

It's an X3D, you're playing multithreaded games, the answer should come quickly tbh

[cyan ravine]

Likely yeah

JUST the 64gb right?

Not 96 or 80 lmao

[snow wasp]

i already got 3dmark from steam 😛

[snow wasp]

haha no no just the 64gb not 500k with 10billion mhz 😛

[cyan ravine]

Ok nice

Yeah 3dmark works too

[snow wasp]

oh yeah you also remember i play SC ^^

[cyan ravine]

I'd just do tests like that, make sure you're not throttling or if you are, not throttling at like 3GHz

Ryzen boost algorithm is quite heat friendly

[snow wasp]

how can i tell that? from the task manager?

[cyan ravine]

Try using MSI afterburner's rtss

Or hwinfo64

[snow wasp]

so no need to run 3dmark or anything at all?

yeah i got afterburner

[snow wasp]

whats that

[cyan ravine]

Sensors only readout program

Tells you temperatures and ghz

[cyan ravine]

I'm tempted to say no need if the 64GB worked

Cpu errors are rare

[snow wasp]

i'm using this for temp and fan control, such an amazing software, the best i've found so far.

[cyan ravine]

Good choice

Agree

[snow wasp]

so if i look at this software and mornitor to see if after running sc and another game on the background and bunch of brower tabs loading and the cpu still under 90 then i'm good? what would be the alarming temp would you say?

[cyan ravine]

90

89 and GHz still high like

4.2GHz

Is fine

90 and 3GHz, problem

Make sure your bios is updated before you swap over

[snow wasp]

should i turn of pc straightway if that happens?

[snow wasp]

oh yeah i completely forgot, thanks a lot for reminding me

[cyan ravine]

I would stop and repaste it

No need to panic

The cpu is designed to protect itself

It'll do just that if it has a bad issue

[potent portal]

hwinfo can integrate into fan control to give you more sensor sources. I have mine set up so it monitors both CPU and GPU temps and runs the system fans faster if either one heats up.

[snow wasp]

do all cooler comes with the thermal paste?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

You'll be fine

Lol

[snow wasp]

are they good or should i buy nocture branded paste?

[cyan ravine]

They're fine

I wouldn't recommend anything slapdash or half bad lol

[snow wasp]

yeah i got it set up already

[cyan ravine]

Good luck with the build lad ✌️

[snow wasp]

thanks ^^

[potent portal]

NT-H2 would get you maybe 2-4 degrees difference and in most cases zero extra performance

[vale epoch]

The 7800x3d… cant be overclocked right

[snow wasp]

big problem is i need to figure out the link to download bios lol

[potent portal]

Correct*, but the new 9800X3D can be

[snow wasp]

it would be in the lenovo legions site right?

[potent portal]

*bclk still works

[potent portal]

yes

[indigo kindle]

Any advice for trying to get a 7800x3d when back in stock?

[snow wasp]

i bought the ready built pc from their website, since i had student discount i didnt wanna spend more money buying parts and build it myself @cyan ravine

[potent portal]

They probably won't be back in stock ever since the 9800X3D is out now so you're stuck getting used or scalped

[vale epoch]

I kinda wanna have a long but thin secondary monitor running along the side of my main monitor and just keep hwinfo on there ngl

Not sure if such a monitor exists tho

[potent portal]

Check this out https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yp6NnQ/hyte-y70-touch-infinite-atx-mid-tower-case-cs-hyte-y70ti-bb

[vale epoch]

…

This must be karma for my horrid deez nuts jokes

[potent portal]

Lacking the funds for that you can go the route I did and get a random widescreen monitor from goodwill for $20 that can rotate 90 degrees

[vale epoch]

Perfecte

[potent portal]

I just realized I still have the masking tape left on the monitor with the price written on it lol

[vale epoch]

But srsly if i had the funds for that case i prolly would be rocking an oled rn

[snow wasp]

doesn't it look like i have the exact update? @cyan ravine

[stoic island]

If you want to update the bios, just grab it off the Asus site for the b550m-a wifi since it's just an off the shelf board

[snow wasp]

oh ok i will do that

[snow wasp]

all this time i didn't know there was updates available, i was only checking Lenovo site like an idiot 😦

[potent portal]

Oh I read Lenovo and immediately thought laptop 💀

Completely forgot they do SI as well

[stoic island]

yea SIs are pretty lazy when it comes to just copy pasting those updates lol

[snow wasp]

yeah lol

BIOS update before and after. Version date never matches the date on Asus website but i think fine? @cyan ravine

[potent portal]

The build date is almost always different from the release date

[cyan ravine]

If you updated and you're fine then you're ready

[snow wasp]

nice, can't wait 🙂

[mossy venture]

@rain bloom
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v2qPxr/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx7900xt-pg-20go

[abstract sleet]

Hey guys, first time builder here and I have a quick question. My gpu (7800xt) requires 16 pin for power but I’m confused on how many cables to use. Do I plug the 8 pin into the psu and the end with dual 6+2 into my gpu making 16 (1cable) or would I use 2 separate cables plugging two 8 pins into my gpu which would then have me using four 6+2 pins into my psu? Ik this is probably a dumb question but I just want to make sure I’m getting the correct amount of power.

[cyan ravine]

Which psu is it

Full name

[abstract sleet]

MSI MAG A1000GL PCIE5

[cyan ravine]

You can either do 8 into psu, (6+2)+(6+2) into gpu, or
8 into psu, 6+2 into gpu, 8 into psu, 6+2 into gpu

It's good that you ask as there's other reasons apart from which cables to use as to what to plug in, but you will be fine either one you decide to pick

To put it in simple terms, whichever way you want, but make sure the 8 end goes into the psu, and the 6+2 ends into the gpu

You'll be fine

It's a good psu, so the choice of cable isn't a worry

[abstract sleet]

Thank you, I was looking around on the internet for an answer but couldn’t exactly find what I was looking for. I’ll probably just do the 1 cable then and keep the other as a spare then

[rain bloom]

I already ordered the other one, is it worth trying to cancel that and get this one?

[teal dome]

I mean depends on how much ur saving and stuff and if you want wait a tiny bit longer

[mossy venture]

Thats a personal choice

Was just letting you know it's there

[indigo kindle]

Really worth waiting for the 9800x3d for my 4080s build? Out of stock is killing me lol

[potent portal]

It's either that or a used 7800X3D

[shut rampart]

What setting is the mobo led name?

[analog hearth]

That one

[shut rampart]

That one

[dusky hearth]

That one

[analog hearth]

Yeah that one

[shut rampart]

It’s not that one

[dusky hearth]

check under your

[analog hearth]

Is it yes? Try making it no and then yes again maybe that'll work

[shut rampart]

One day I will find this s4 + s5 in bios

Found it it was that one

We got a problem

Hmmm it doesn’t fit

[dusky hearth]

get like a side table to put the pc on

or smth

also take off the marketing stickers lol

[potent portal]

Vertical monitor time

[dusky hearth]

also you should clean your 2nd monitor

dont use any alcohol or solvents though

just use microfiber and distilled water

tiny bit of soap may be fine, though just distilled water is fine

[potent portal]

Lens cleaner is usually fine if you have glasses

Last ditch is glass cleaner but only a little bit or it'll streak bad

[dusky hearth]

some glasses cleaners do have ipa or ethanol in them though

i have one bottle that does and one bottle that doesnt lmao

[potent portal]

Yes definitely check the ingredients first

[shut rampart]

Yeah I can clean that

Why does this monitor look’s glossy and not bright

Any table suggestions

For my pc

[weary galleon]

some monitors are just glossy instead of matte. Gets you better image quality but worse glare

Could also be a protective film if it's new

[shut rampart]

I see no film

[dusky hearth]

i... see a peel tab 😂

bro has taken nothing off of this monitor from the peel to the stickers 😭

[shut rampart]

I already took it off

[dusky hearth]

oh

check your brightness setting then

also you're right by the window so you'll get a fair bit of light

[shut rampart]

its at 100%

[dusky hearth]

hmm

which monitor is this? i'll look at the specs to see if that's normal or not

it also could be hdr making the image look darker

[shut rampart]

hdr is off

aoc agon pro ag276qzd2

[dusky hearth]

hmm

peak brightness is 1k, so it should have been fine even with your bright room

[dusky hearth]

ah

i think the issue for you really is just the reflection from the gloss then

glossy monitors arent recommended for places with bright lighting

you might want to get blackout blinds

[shut rampart]

well return it

or yeah blackout blind

yeah im going to return it

I see some strach on the mointors that I didn't do

Nice

[cyan ravine]

You sure that's not the film

[dusky hearth]

they said they took off the film apparently

[cyan ravine]

That's what film can look like

[dusky hearth]

but those scratches look like film yeah

also looking at the specifications technically the monitor should have an anti glare coating on it, so it does seem a bit too glossy

i have no clue if they actually removed the film or not

[cyan ravine]

Anti glare and it looks half way to a mirror??

Nuh uh

[dusky hearth]

ikr

[cyan ravine]

I feel like that's film

[dusky hearth]

either that's film or the worst anti reflection i've ever seen

[cyan ravine]

It's gloss but surely not that reflective

[shut rampart]

How do I check?

If I took it off

[dusky hearth]

did you peel off a film

[cyan ravine]

If your fingers can feel a film on the edges that's probably a film

[shut rampart]

Ooo the yellow thing

[cyan ravine]

Yeah don't do that

[shut rampart]

Yeah I peal it off

[cyan ravine]

💀

[shut rampart]

It was just a tab

[dusky hearth]

"OH-"

[potent portal]

The tab is stuck to the film to help you remove it

[dusky hearth]

^

[shut rampart]

Yeah

[dusky hearth]

how did you remove the tab from the film without removing the film

💀

[shut rampart]

That yellow thing right

[potent portal]

No the thing the yellow thing was stuck to

[shut rampart]

Oh it wasn’t stuck

Let me see now hold on

[cyan ravine]

If I'm right this should be a pretty thick piece of plastic based on this

[shut rampart]

Ooo

I got it

[cyan ravine]

[shut rampart]

Why no one told me

[cyan ravine]

I'm the only one who trusts no one here

I trust my own eyes and brain more than anything else

It's a tech support worst nightmare that, when one side can see what it'd otherwise be but the other side knows and are sure they did it lmao

No one to blame here I've just seen it a hundred times to know

Lmao

Blame AOC for a dodgy yellow tab

Ok @shut rampart are the scratches gone? They should be

[shut rampart]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

Should look less reflective too

Nice

[dusky hearth]

that one guy that had to drive 2 hours to press a power button:

[shut rampart]

theres a guy to drove 2 hours to press a power button?

[cyan ravine]

I've met people that do this irl

Last guy I met took his mustang out for jobs like that

💀

"Well I'm gonna drive 4 hours I may as well have fun"

[dusky hearth]

was some technician and management says the server was turned on
guy arrives and it's not turned on

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it's that kind of error

Everyone is sure they've done it right but you trust your gut

And then learn something else

It just happens

[dusky hearth]

this is why tech support is always grumpy

[potent portal]

Recently I saw a whole company in a panic because the CEO's computer kept typing weird and random characters. They thought his computer was hacked. Tech drove to the executive building, got up to the CEO's office, and took the newspaper off of the keyboard.

[shut rampart]

now I need to find some color settings for this mointor

[cyan ravine]

Thankfully I've seen a hundred thousand plastic films in my life so I could tell it was plastic film on top

[cyan ravine]

Leave stock

You need a colorimeter for any changes, factory calibration on OLED is really good these days

You may prefer some contrast boosting though depending on your preference

Looking up settings of someone else's will just give you their sample deviation

Not yours

[shut rampart]

I already change the setting so need to find a factory reset switch

[potent portal]

You can adjust color settings in your driver settings too so you can get it to how you like it

[cyan ravine]

Every panel is different for calibration

I would leave stock personally, but I would look for what overdrive setting is best

[dusky hearth]

tfw i pointed out the pull tab for the film and they removed it without the film coming with it 😭

[potent portal]

OLED overdrive I usually see the lowest setting gets the best clarity and the higher settings are only marginally faster

[dusky hearth]

also with the film off, is the monitor a tiny bit brighter now lmao/clear to see stuff @shut rampart

[shut rampart]

a tiny bit