building-and-recc-chat

[balmy lichen]

someday...

[cyan ravine]

Anyway price it all out, measure up your suitcase to see if it all fits just fine

I wouldn't blame you if you went the used laptop route but yeah, you will be losing the upgradeability aspect is all

Can't exactly whip out an itx box while you're idling away on the plane either lol

Maybe if you flew business class

💀

eGPU does make a lot of sense though if you already have a decent laptop

Spend maybe 200 usd on the egpu box, run it via TB3/TB4, get a nice used gpu like a 6950XT

Spend probably half as much again but you can use it all the same way to similar results

Only catch is the size needed is a fair bit more on top

[shut rampart]

just wanted to say thanks @mossy venture for buying the last c8, because if u didn't then my setup would be too spacious / look weird, I gone a head and switch to c5 with 10 fans for free

[mossy venture]

W

Now I'll go return the c8

[shut rampart]

💀

[merry shuttle]

now listen here did i go wrong with pairing my 9400f with a rx 6700 non xt?

[mossy venture]

if you just bought the cpu and mobo, yes

if you alr had them, no

[dusky hearth]

Damn old cpu

Also that pairing is fine yeah

[oak jay]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xwCpb2 How does this build look for a mixed use setup? moderate gaming + music production. 2k ish budget

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jXd8Kq

[boreal cave]

For the 7800x3d should I stick with the aio or can I use a noctua air cooler

[potent portal]

The 7800X3D runs perfectly fine on the stock Wraith cooler

Any one will do

This would be my suggestion, so you have a beefy cooler in the future if you need it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BR3JQTSN?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[boreal cave]

Kk

[hasty cove]

back again to ask the same stupid question

anyone got any good laptop reccomendations for vr games

tryna get those black friday deals

( i already have a pc i just wanna play pcvr on the go)

also any decent link cables anyone knows about? mine breaks itself every five minutes 😦

[weary galleon]

I forget what cable I have, but buy this and your cable will likely not break again

https://vr-wire.com/

^ I own one, it's pretty sweet

[weary galleon]

Oh I remember now, my cable is from Kiwi Design.

Can't say whether or not it's more durable than others since I use the vrwire

[hasty cove]

idk if durability or quality is the problem

[dusky hearth]

depends on how rough you are with the cable

like, a ceiling tether system may put more stress onto a single point of a cable quite a bit which may break it faster

or if you keep accidentally stepping on the cable, that could also damage it

or rather stepping on it causing it to tug or whatever

[weary galleon]

This is the advantage of VRwire vs typical ceiling systems

The cable lies on little pulleys so twisting is spread over a much greater length of cable than traditional systems

Sorry if I sound like a shill, I just have been quite impressed with it. Definitely a tad expensive, I think I got mine during a sale. You could probably DIY it as well

[dusky hearth]

looked at it, seems to be fairly easily DIYable, but it's also sold by a couple so it's a small scale/small business so higher prices are kinda normal

it's kinda expensive but when you compare it to other all-in-one kits that are also around, it's honestly not that much more lmfao

well, that's not saying that the other options are priced the best either

diy would always be the cheaper option

*some things might cost more

[stuck juniper]

Best 800-1000 dollar build i can get atm?

[potent portal]

Roughly this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zs4Cb2

Could upgrade to a 7800 XT for a few bucks more, would be worth it imo https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7WWJ7P/xfx-speedster-swft-210-core-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-78tswftfp

[rain carbon]

Its always "just a little bit more" i swear lmao

(300 dollars later)

[raven pebble]

until you look at a 4080s vs a 4090 😦

[rain carbon]

There's zero low end value (new), zero top end value (new), all in on the middle and high end

[tawny violet]

You can go 14600 and 7800 XT for a slightly better balanced setup

without going over

[boreal cave]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HQbtgn

is this good ?

[shut rampart]

im not no pc builder

[mossy venture]

I'd just do a cheaper ssd and psu thatre just as good
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3JzNQd

[shut rampart]

but can get cheaper

[mossy venture]

Case is personal preference

[elder plume]

can anyone help me with all the wiring and pc builds i have everything but i dont know where to plug anything

every youtube tutorial just says to plug this into this, even though "this" looks nothing like my cables

pls

[dusky hearth]

Start with PSU cables

Those are labeled usually

[elder plume]

i have connected everything and it ain’t turning on

[dusky hearth]

Check the connection for the front panel io

[elder plume]

is that in the top left corner

[dusky hearth]

Did you look at the motherboard manual to see how it's connected

It's usually on the bottom right edge

[elder plume]

the manuel has no specifications just says plug the cable into motherboard bruh

[dusky hearth]

Which board

[elder plume]

aurus b650

[dusky hearth]

Elite ax?

[elder plume]

yes

can i send pictures here of my stuff

[elder plume]

my board doesn’t have the little LED connectors that the picture says in the bottom right photo

cables i meant

[dusky hearth]

I'll be back in 5 mins, you can DM me an image of your motherboard so I can see if you missed anything since you don't have the role to post images yet

[elder plume]

alr

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZJ9cYd I changed a few things you had on this list that you made me, I wanted a bit more rgb and wanted to kind of personalize it so I didn’t feel like I had someone elses complete build, what do you think? I also only plan on playing Fortnite mostly, Minecraft (or at least try to start playing again) and maybe some other games such as cod or other games I might find

Oops I meant to @ you not reply 😅

[mossy venture]

I'd do this aio
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZQBzK8/thermalright-aqua-elite-v3-6617-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-aqua-elite-360-black-v3

And iirc you were gaming right?

I'd just do the 13600kf

Or were you the person who's editing

[little osprey]

I’m gaming

[mossy venture]

Yeah the 14700k will be 3-5% better than the 13600kf at 1080p low settings

At 1440p high settings they'll be near identical

[little osprey]

But can it handle more? Like more thing being open at once or am I wrong? I don’t really know a lot of this stuff

[mossy venture]

Yes easily

The 13600kf is a 14 core cpu

[little osprey]

No I was talking about the i7 being able to do more than the i5, sorry should have been clearer 😅

[mossy venture]

No it will not make a difference

[elder plume]

can someone tell me what i’m doing wrong

nothing is turning on

[little osprey]

I also have a question, what does the different amount of cores do on a cpu? It says the i7 has 20 but the i5 has 14, why would they be almost identical in speeds?

[mossy venture]

Multi core performance doesn't matter in games

The 7600 and 7950x perform near identically too

[little osprey]

What if I was to try and do 3d printing? I was gonna try to buy one a little after the pc, would I still need just the i5?

[mossy venture]

Most* games. There's very few that like 8+ cores, but 14 is alr way more than enough

[mossy venture]

I mean if you're rendering large scale projects I'd imagine you're doing gpu focused work

If you were doing cpu rendering maybe? Idk i doubt 3d printing is anywhere near intensive on a pc of this scale

[little osprey]

No itd just be a small printer, just to play with ya know?

[mossy venture]

Yeah you'll be fine

[little osprey]

I tried to find the i5 with the free 1tb ssd but I think it’s gone now

[mossy venture]

14th gen except the i7s were identical to 13th with a minor overclock, 13600kf at $175 is great value

About 10% worse than the 7800x3d

[little osprey]

So everything else on the list and the new aio you showed me is good?

[mossy venture]

Yes

[little osprey]

Okay thank you 🙂

[mossy venture]

If you want, could go to a 4080/xtx with the savings on the cpu

And np

[little osprey]

How much better is the 4080 than the 4070 ti super?

[mossy venture]

Around 15%

Xtx matches it with more vram at $765-820 or so depending on sales

Mostly on the higher end of that

We've seen 4080s in the 800s, but normally $950-1000

I think we're gonna see pretty solid gpu deals this black friday/cyber Monday with new releases coming soon

[little osprey]

Hmm it’s tempting, so many ways to go about buying things for a build. I’ve never built a pc before except took one apart in middle school and put it back together 😅

New releases?

[mossy venture]

Yeah, 50 series announcement jan-feb

[little osprey]

So the deals out right now aren’t the lowest that things will be?

[mossy venture]

no way to know for sure, imo i think xtx/4080 will come lower

[little osprey]

I was also curious, isn’t Fortnite also more Nvidia friendly than amd?

[mossy venture]

im not sure about with 7000 series, 5000 series and older yeah

[little osprey]

So should I stick with Nvidia since I’ll be playing Fortnite mostly?

[manic cloak]

I play Fortnite 1440p on a 7800xt, performance texture with maxed out settings that performance gives me, I easily get 200-360fps depending on what I’m doing

If you were on direct 11 with high settings I’d go with nivida, plus using RT to boost more frames. Otherwise if you’re trying to stick cheaper side but still with a card that can run games competitively at competitive like settings, AMD is preferred imo

Anyways I’m in the market for a 2nd monitor (my main https://a.co/d/7SR4OcK) is there any recommendations atm with all the deals?

[languid nimbus]

Check #tech-deals

Grab it before it’s gone

[mossy venture]

https://computers.woot.com/offers/amazon-basics-24-fhd-1080p-monitor

If you want a nicer one that $150 Dell g2724d is a decent upgrade from that acer panel

[little osprey]

I seen some people getting to 500-800 fps in Fortnite with 4070 ti super in some videos? How is that possible?

[mossy venture]

low settings with a 7000/9000x3d cpu

[little osprey]

But they had intel in some of these videos easily getting over 500 fps?

[mossy venture]

first half of my answer

[little osprey]

Oh

How much fps would I get with 4070 ti super you think?

[mossy venture]

i used to get 165+ at 1440p with a 3060 ti at high settings

[little osprey]

So you think I could get a constant 360 if everyone else is showing 500+?

[mossy venture]

360 very likely won't have a visible difference compared to 144-240, but maybe

depends on the settings you use

[little osprey]

Okay, yeah I got a laptop doing about 100-200 fps, depends what I’m doing though

[mossy venture]

https://computers.woot.com/offers/intel-core-i5-13600kf-3-5ghz-14-core-lga

[shut rampart]

got my 9800x3d today

[little osprey]

No offense, I don’t feel safe ordering off that site 😅, just looks scammy to me and not safe

[mossy venture]

It's from amazon?

To clarify woot is owned by Amazon

[little osprey]

Computers woot?

[mossy venture]

Oos now anyways

But it says fulfilled by Amazon on that page, and you connect your Amazon account when you sign in

[little osprey]

Oh I didn’t know that

I’m very skeptical to going to sites I’ve never heard or seen before

[mossy venture]

Yoo you should buy this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/167125863206?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FD6px4KaRcK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

$9999 3060 build

[shut rampart]

thats worth it

[weary galleon]

Any idea if this was pre-UE5?

[jagged ember]

Game runs better in dx11 mode for me

Its really funny

[potent portal]

That happens with a lot of games actually

Not all of them like splitting up the CPU load like DX12 does and it can introduce weird issues

[jagged ember]

Yeah I noticed that too

Helldivers 2 runs extremely well in dx11 mode

Dx12? Oof

[vale epoch]

Reminds me of the frame drops in cyberpunk when crowd density get high

[jagged ember]

Hard dips

[vale epoch]

Especially in the dlc area

[little osprey]

Does your game stutter with amd?

[manic cloak]

never stutters/freezes if what you mean

sure I do see FPS drops but it's not to the point you'll lose the game

it just depends on what part of the map you're on

[little osprey]

How is your 1% fps low?

[manic cloak]

uhhhh let me check

[little osprey]

Okay, thank you, I’m just hesitant to even think of trying out amd bc all I’ve seen is people complaining about their game stuttering on performance mode and having a really low 1% low fps

But anyways I gotta go, I’ll check back in the morning so just tag me or reply to this message so I can see it

[manic cloak]

hold on

i'm about to load into a game rn

my settings btw

Please mind that my frames absolutely tank right before a screenshot, I was getting about a max of 200-280 fps with a 99% of 170-210 from moving and standing still

also with 2 people cranking right above me

Also my system isn't the most optimized, like alot of AMD graphic options I have turned off cause idk what they do, some are turned off or limited because it affects my gameplay (or gives you a really weird blur when moving) and i'm on DDR4 😔

[potent portal]

Stuttering on performance mode is going to be people forgetting to turn on xmp typically, or needing to overclock their memory because they have a bad profile

Performance mode makes the GPU almost idle, pure CPU load

[manic cloak]

I don't think my GPU was stuttering from the looks of it

[potent portal]

Your GPU was only at 34% load at the time of screenshot

[manic cloak]

with 51% cpu util, barely can see it cause of the background

should be fine?

[potent portal]

That'll be total util over all threads, I'll bet you have 2 threads pegged 100% and the rest have moderate load

[shut rampart]

im shuttering and I have xmp on

[potent portal]

You might fit the second category then, where xmp is insufficient and you should overclock

[shut rampart]

I never overclocked before

[potent portal]

Start with CPU-Z, memory and SPD tabs. I can tell you roughly what settings will work.

[shut rampart]

Im just maining getting FPS drops

which is shuttering

[potent portal]

Overclocking the memory won't entirely fix that but it will often help a LOT

Speaking from experience

[shut rampart]

in end game where people was building I was getting 35 to 50

anyways im downloading cpu-z rn

[potent portal]

You don't need to censor the serial numbers, what am I going to do, send a RMA request with it lol

[shut rampart]

[potent portal]

Ok that looks like Hynix C die to me, aka CJR. It's not very good at overclocking but you can do a little with it.

[shut rampart]

🫡

its fine I will just build a pc in a couple of days from now... should be better

[potent portal]

Oh yeah, anything with DDR5 will be a big upgrade

[shut rampart]

got most of my parts just waiting on cooler / case

I can start building

[potent portal]

A good memory overclock can take a few days to nail down tight so there isn't much point then

[serene onyx]

Hey guys i found this mobo and was going to purchase it for a build im gonna sell

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/48cG3C/asus-prime-b550m-a-ac-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-b550m-a-ac

Is this good?

I also found another one

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-B550M-PRO-VDH-ProSeries-Motherboard/dp/B089D1YG11/ref=sr_1_1?crid=27BURHFORGU1X&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.6vqgOwQALSOXjomXKD5InTCfSa_284c7rROCjVV8kk9WEycoal_Az322uQ9IR5guXdF0MAljzMSRv0F-IH11LWvovs4PBGvqrqkzrx_isph0s0Q9FKdjdUL64W31N7WOxWIlI3oHNts8hYfZJcjJpMt40CZnG_Yl46vXRUbFx6wDCbOJH_zRiFbXJHNjocOR4C8FO2FabeiQ3She_bWFEL0j9nyyKEcxUrwkzVgvhXY.b4x-e-jm5ieposEkCL3FgmRTV2dW9PwAIgFTc9jK9n8&dib_tag=se&keywords=Pro+vdh&qid=1732660420&sprefix=pro+vdh%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-1

this one

its gonna be a white build so i was leaning more on the first one

[plucky timber]

The cheaper one

Buyers don't really notice motherboards

[serene onyx]

They are same orice

[plucky timber]

Especially with all the hardware on top of it

[serene onyx]

Ok thanks

[plucky timber]

Oh

Just pick any then

[serene onyx]

Ight

thanks

[mossy venture]

one sec

i think there's a better option rn

[serene onyx]

Thanks

[mossy venture]

oh sale ended on the gigabyte one I was thinking abt, but you could do a b450m prime ii at $55 or so

or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NT7p99/asrock-b550m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro4

neither have wifi tho

amazon warehouse might have some cheap decent options too

[serene onyx]

ah crap

[dusky hearth]

somewhat depends? both are kinda meh for white builds since it's very visibly black/grey lmao

like, if everything in your build except for 1 part is white, it's pretty attention grabbing

[plucky timber]

true

these motherboards are a bit annoying tho

only the heatsinks are white

[serene onyx]

Yeah which sucks

[plucky timber]

yeah I never do white builds for flips

never cost effective

mostly in the gpu department

[dusky hearth]

fr

in pretty much every department

[plucky timber]

it's like itx tax

[serene onyx]

fr lmao

[manic cloak]

maybe you can check if I need to OC cause i'm currently on XMP II + "Asus's AI overclock"

I need to just check my PC overall tbh, cause I finally updated my bios after not wanting to do it for months

[potent portal]

That's Samsung C die, you can't do much with that

[manic cloak]

pained me when I saw it

still waiting for a singular z690 or z790 ddr5 board to go on sale rn

[potent portal]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-z790-pro-rs-atx-intel-z790-lga-1700/p/N82E16813162088

[manic cloak]

was looking at and it's been at that price since the start of this month, saw this though https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Z790-Q-Flash-EZ-Latch-Motherboard/dp/B0BH9DXY38/ref=sr_1_4?

Tried linking the used version from resale, but they had 3 on Friday

[potent portal]

You could roll the dice on that one and hope the pins are ok and all the parts are there

[manic cloak]

I might take the risk

It's easy to return anyways plus amazons customer service are willing to do anything for you

[potent portal]

Best case scenario it's in perfect shape, worst case you get a refund after being inconvenienced

[mossy venture]

I got my z690a pro off amazon warehouse and it was flawless

[serene onyx]

Whats a better cheaper alt for the R5 5500

is the 4500 worth it?

[mossy venture]

no

[serene onyx]

its being paired w the RX 6600

[mossy venture]

lowkey 5500 off aliexpress, otherwise id buy used

[serene onyx]

ah ok

Thanks

[mossy venture]

or maybe 12100f

[cyan ravine]

Used 3600

Below that you're compromising simply too much to recommend these days

[serene onyx]

Understandable ill probably stick to the 5500

[mossy venture]

you could also consider a used gpu instead of the 6600

so you'd have more to spend on cpu

like a 5700/xt, 1080/ti, or any 20 series card with 8gb vram

[cyan ravine]

5700xt for 120 is ALWAYS a good buy

[serene onyx]

interesting

[cyan ravine]

Strongly agree if you're considering a 6600

6600 is good but 5700XT delivers basically the same experience but better raster

[mossy venture]

then you could fit a 5600/x into the build, which would last much longer than a 5500

[cyan ravine]

A little bit yeah

[mossy venture]

there also might be a combo on newegg with the combo savings event worth looking at. Do you have a list of parts youre looking to buy rn?

[serene onyx]

yeah

ill send

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Zesty_/saved/Jtj44D

I found a better ssd ignore that

its a placeholder

[mossy venture]

alr this is just moving spending around https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n3BFt3

and lemme get back to you on the combo

[serene onyx]

ok thanks

if you can, can you make sure its a white gpu 😞

[cyan ravine]

White GPU is really difficult

You get like, less than you can count on one hand how many are available that are genuinely white

That are reasonably priced

[cyan ravine]

It's cheaper to just buy a normal one, buy some plastidip, and carefully apply like 5 half coats to the shroud by taking it apart

It will look a little rough when done but you can put clear coat on top if you want a smoother finish

It'll all peel off when you wanna sell

Oh yeah, remember to use new paste if you do that

Nearly forgot

@serene onyx

[serene onyx]

yes i have a tube here at home

[cyan ravine]

Ok sweet

Cos most come apart by removing the cooler

So repaste is in order

[serene onyx]

yeah sadly

[cyan ravine]

You'll be fine lol

Just make sure the die is completely covered, can't do line, pea dot shenanigans here

There's no IHS

So anything not covered is a hot part of the chip unlike a CPU that has a top piece that spreads the heat out

I honestly feel like, working with a GPU, as long as the cables they use aren't garbage, one of the easiest parts of a PC lol

[serene onyx]

thats true

[cyan ravine]

All it requires is a careful hand

[dusky hearth]

Airbrush

[cyan ravine]

If you got one

[dusky hearth]

Buy one frfr

[cyan ravine]

The spray can on plastidip is not bad if it doesn't get covered

And you don't half press

Small job anyway, it's like a $15 can for white rubber lol

[zenith cargo]

Does anyone know if the DT990 Pro will sound better the arctis nova pros (wired) in terms of music. I own the novas rn and wondering if there’ll be a difference

was looking to hook it up to the scarlett 2i2

[analog hearth]

I mean you can have x headphones, which are from a sound company, or you can have y headphones, which are from a peripheral company. Which sounds like the better option?

Just get the DT 990 Pro

[native plover]

I need help with my pc

I think my motherboard is just too old and idk where the cables go

[potent portal]

Which cables

And what motherboard

[native plover]

I got gigabyte b459m ds3h WiFi

And 750 watt cooler master fully modular psu mwe gold v3

[compact kernel]

what about the gigabyte eagle ax? its about 140 rn

[native plover]

I have the motherboard and cpu cable connected

[zenith cargo]

lmao you right

[potent portal]

B450m? That's pretty modern, there shouldn't be a compatibility issue. You only need one 8 pin power for the CPU and the 24 pin cable.

[zenith cargo]

dumb question but just wanted to make sure

[native plover]

That’s it?

[zenith cargo]

👍

[native plover]

I’m not gonna use some of the front usb cause I don’t have an adapter for that

Where does the front panel cable go

[dusky hearth]

will there be a difference? yes
would it sound better? it's a bit of a matter of preference but the dt990 pro is more audiophile than gamer orientated lmao

also it has a completely different driver type

[potent portal]

To the motherboard from the power supply, yes that's all you need. You'll probably also need GPU power and whatever else.

[dusky hearth]

one uses planar magnetic drivers and the other uses uhh

why did i blank at the name

[native plover]

I have case fans but where to connect the pack I bought daisy chain

[dusky hearth]

dynamic drivers

[zenith cargo]

Tbh I just want it to sound crisp

[native plover]

But the pre installed fans where do I connect those of my motherboard has one system fan header

[zenith cargo]

i could care less about directional audio and all that

[dusky hearth]

scarlett's dac and amp isnt the highest quality, though may be better quality than the built in one on your pc at least

[native plover]

@potent portal

[zenith cargo]

Which do you recommend?

[native plover]

@mossy venture

[potent portal]

Depends on the kind of connector the fans use

[dusky hearth]

depends on your budget, but fiio makes good options no matter what your budget is

[zenith cargo]

sub $100

120

[potent portal]

Not all of these are required, you can just do the power switch if you wanted

[dusky hearth]

if you want something american made, schiit and jds are good options, but that would be over 100

[dusky hearth]

isnt that the audio header

or usb

[dusky hearth]

oh

just plug it in with the f panel label on top,

[warm badge]

I tried to install my new CPU, and the CPU light came on, so I looked some things up. Reset CMOS, same thing. I reinstalled the old CPU, same thing. So I removed the new RAM I got, and the BIOS wrote the new settings and PC booted normally.

[zenith cargo]

@dusky hearth how about one that’s worth the money?

[potent portal]

Just make sure the 2 wires are on the 2 pins for the power switch

[dusky hearth]

all the options i've listed are "worth the money" but it depends on how much you want to spend

[warm badge]

Will faulty RAM cause CPU light to come on and fail to boot the PC?

[dusky hearth]

plug here

[analog hearth]

Maybe? I mean if it has a RAM light then it's probably not the RAM in that case

[potent portal]

If something went horribly wrong then yes, a memory controller error can report as a CPU error.

Updated BIOS?

[warm badge]

yeah I updated my BIOS before I started to install my upgrades

[native plover]

I connected the front panel connector

[potent portal]

Try one stick at a time of the new memory after a CMOS clear

If one works and the other doesn't you'll know for sure it's the mem

[warm badge]

I was thinking about that, yeah

does every new BIOS update always contain the previous updates?

[native plover]

Am I missing any cable

[dusky hearth]

schiit:
https://www.schiit.com/products/fulla-2 $110
fiio:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003286218512.html $65
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003682930042.html $95

[native plover]

@potent portal

[warm badge]

or should I search for the specific bios update for my new CPU?

[potent portal]

It depends on the exact model of board and what the old version is

[potent portal]

If you only need the one PCIe power for the GPU then you're good there

[warm badge]

MPG X570 GAMING PLUS

[potent portal]

Yeah MSI doesn't do stepping updates typically so you can just go straight to the latest

[warm badge]

alright

[zenith cargo]

is the sound blaster g6 any good?

[uncut goblet]

Hey all. I recently "upgraded" my rig to a AMD AM5 Ryzen 5 7600, 32gb DDR5 5000mhz.... Im still rocking a GTX 1080. Anyone got any suggestions for a budget friendly GPU upgrade that will last me another 6-10 years? Appreciate the input! 🙂

[native plover]

Do I put any of the pcie cables

[potent portal]

If your GPU requires them yes

[native plover]

What about the fans

[potent portal]

Depends on the fan connector in question

[dusky hearth]

not that i know of at least, not really an audiophile kinda product

[native plover]

I can daisy chain the thermal right fans but idk about the other preinsralled ones

I have a Lian li lancool 207

And I see there’s 2 fan headers one for the system fan and other for cup fan

Clue

[potent portal]

6-10 years is a BIG ask with how rapidly everything is changing. Even a 4090 might not last that long.

[native plover]

Cpu

[uncut goblet]

So you're saying all the new stuff is trash? 🤣

[potent portal]

All the 8GB stuff is, which is most of the budget options unless you go AMD

[uncut goblet]

I've used Nvidia forever, I am ok with trying AMD for the first time.

[potent portal]

We're seeing plenty of games run out of memory using 8GB at 1080p already

I've maxed out 12GB before at 1440p

[uncut goblet]

I was eyeing a 12gb AMD card, and possibly a 4060 Ti

[native plover]

@potent portal

[dusky hearth]

are gee bee

[uncut goblet]

Was debating a 7600 XT

[dusky hearth]

(rgb)

and a fan

[timber canopy]

sorry for pinging you,
but what would you say is the best out of these three?
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883360553?tpk=1
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883360521?Item=N82E16883360521
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883360527?item=N82E16883360527

They each have "Free gifts" but I don't know if they're bs or not...

[potent portal]

You can just add them to the daisy chain probably, and the other one is for RGB

Modern fan headers should handle 2A so it takes a lot of fans to overload that

[dusky hearth]

specifically argb

[native plover]

Yea I just found out I can daisy chain the pre installed fans too

[potent portal]

There's games currently available that the 7600 XT cannot get above about 40 fps at 1080p, so again it's not going to last that long

[uncut goblet]

hmm

so far i havent run into anything that my GTX 1080 can't handle still.

But the most "intensive" game would be Baldurs Gate 3, or Battlefield 2042...

[potent portal]

You haven't played recent releases like stalker 2 and microsoft flight sim then

Besides, a 7600 XT is only about a 10% upgrade over a 1080

[uncut goblet]

Does the 1080 rock that hard still? (it's not the Ti version!)

[timber canopy]

Isn't stalker 2 just unoptimized as heck

[native plover]

@potent portal

Do I connect 2 pcie cables for this right

[potent portal]

Yep, it's almost as good as the 4060, which is about as good as the 7600 XT.

[potent portal]

Correct

[uncut goblet]

That's nuts, for how old it is. So what would be a "good" upgrade from this 1080? In your opinion.

[potent portal]

Hard to tell but it does have very high GPU usage

[potent portal]

7800 XT

[native plover]

Yay I just need to connect the fans then gou and in I’m all done

[uncut goblet]

I was just eyeing those. And I assume the 4080 is the Nvidia equvilent?

[potent portal]

The 4080 is between the 7900 XT and XTX

4080 super is XTX

[uncut goblet]

So 4070 😛

[potent portal]

4070 ti maybe depending on the game

CoD loves AMD cards for example, it'll do great in that

[uncut goblet]

the newest game i own, is Sins of a Solar Empire II, lol...

[cyan ravine]

4080/Super are identical +1%

[uncut goblet]

I've gone from hardcore gaming to more casual, but i'd like to still play, for example Battlefield 2042, or Arma 3 and not get graphics lag.

[cyan ravine]

In fact

4080 costs more to make cos better PCB most of the time

Despite the 1% speed difference

[uncut goblet]

is XFX still a reputable AMD card? Last time I used then, was when they still made Nvidia cards.

[cyan ravine]

Yes

I own one

[uncut goblet]

Excellent. I loved them back in the day.

[potent portal]

Wow that was a while ago. Generally they're an average brand.

[cyan ravine]

They are actually hilariously strong at cooling despite the appearance

If you do them vertical mount

I think it's because you can then use fans directly underneath for a second side of intake?

Idk I get really good temps in the O11 Evo lmao

[uncut goblet]

I am eyeing (on best buys page, im sorry newegg i have a best buy card lol) the Speedster 7800XT and the Quicksilver 7800 XT

[cyan ravine]

Like almost water block worthy

Anyway time for work

[potent portal]

We don't take offense, you can shop where the deals are. We recommend Amazon links all the time lol.

[uncut goblet]

Fair lol

the best buy card has no balance on it, so thats my best bet card wise to keep payments on the DL

ive spent days looking at cards, and talked myself out of the 4060.

sounds like i need to go better to see a performance increase.

[potent portal]

Good, all that would get you is ray tracing and DLSS which aren't worth it, especially not in any of the games you mentioned so far

[uncut goblet]

Seems like I shouldn't concider anything less than the 7800/4070.

[mossy venture]

First

[zenith cargo]

@dusky hearth do you think I should opt in for the dx3 pro+ or go with schiit fulla

[native plover]

@potent portal

[zenith cargo]

or do my ears peak and not perceive any difference

[flint sapphire]

Schiit is funni so schiit (my opinion)

[native plover]

Do I ignore this

[cyan ravine]

Dx3+ is great, I daily

[native plover]

@zenith cargo

[zenith cargo]

na cuz look

[potent portal]

That's for the RGB, you can skip it if you want

[native plover]

Where does it connect

[flint sapphire]

Dx3 pro then

[zenith cargo]

lol

[flint sapphire]

I own schiit too ya know

[native plover]

@potent portal

[flint sapphire]

Got a stack of schiit on my desk

[zenith cargo]

pretty sure that’s the rgb software

if you don’t want to control your rgb using software don’t bother connecting

i bent mine on accident 🤑

[native plover]

Does it connect to something

[zenith cargo]

the motherboard

[dusky hearth]

dx3 pro+ would be better but isnt that outside of your budget

[zenith cargo]

yea

well

idc

[dusky hearth]

fiio's k5 pro is currently on sale within your budget

[zenith cargo]

if it’s better than ill buy it

[potent portal]

Bottom of the board, left of center. D_LED1

[native plover]

Ok thank u

[dusky hearth]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003682930042.html this one

[flint sapphire]

I own a schiit stack and a fiio k5 pro…

[dusky hearth]

their budget is $120 max (at least originally) so their options was either a k5 pro or like a schiit fulla

[flint sapphire]

Prefer the stack but the k5 ain’t bad at all

[zenith cargo]

are they basically the same

[dusky hearth]

k5 pro should be a bit better than the fulla

the wonders of chinese engineering

[zenith cargo]

i meant compared to the dx3

[dusky hearth]

i dont think so? they're $100 apart in pricing pretty much

dx3 pro+ is $200

[zenith cargo]

found one for $170

on amazon

[dusky hearth]

hmm not bad

well, if it's within the price range you're willing to pay, sure

it's a good dac

[zenith cargo]

alright

[zenith cargo]

yea im choosing the k5

lol

[dusky hearth]

Lol

[lyric scarab]

Hey guys. I currently got a 6700XT GPU on my MSI Tomahawk mag b650 motherboard and I want to switch the GPU to ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4060 OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 8GB GDDR6

Anything I may have overlooked?

[native plover]

@zenith cargo @potent portal @mossy venture ive now fully built the pc

ill send pics soon

[manic cloak]

Do you already own the card? You're kinda downgrading

[lyric scarab]

Nope I don't own the card 4060

[manic cloak]

Why do you want to switch to the 4060?

[lyric scarab]

I was looking for a better GPU for video editing and gaming but I was too lazy to check around, I could and decipher it myself but lazy rn

[manic cloak]

Usually Zotac has 4070s refrub on ebay or their website, like the one in #tech-deals

but it's oos, i'd recommend not trying to switch GPUs at the same price point as your current

you can take that money you were willing to spend on a 4060, spend a few extra bucks for a 4070 super or something similar in your case, then sell your 6700xt

Better performance + you don't need to itch for another upgrade in the next few years

[lyric scarab]

True

I have a 7800x3d CPU which I don't plan to change anytime soon

Didn't want a bottleneck eother

[lyric scarab]

What about the 4060 TI super oc?

[split cliff]

is this good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jpjBb2

[mossy venture]

Are you gaming?

[split cliff]

yea

well my friend built this

[manic cloak]

Still wouldn't help considering you're getting a little boost compared to the 4060

[split cliff]

so i asked here xd

not my pc

[mossy venture]

Yeah to be blunt hell no

Few min

[lyric scarab]

MSI Gaming RTX 4070 Super 12G Gaming X Slim Graphics Card (NVIDIA RTX 4070 Super, 192-Bit, Extreme Clock: 2655 MHz, 12GB GDRR6X 21 Gbps, HDMI/DP, Ada Lovelace Architecture)

[manic cloak]

I mean what's your budget on the GPU

[manic cloak]

I mean are you willing to buy brand new or refrubished

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yHVLJn

@split cliff

[lyric scarab]

Brand new, unless you could find me one in good condition. I don't usually enjoy buying CPUs/GPUs/ram used

[mossy venture]

Can def get better value with sales/deals/open box or refurb gpus

[manic cloak]

^

[manic cloak]

Refurbished can also be open box, zotac doesn't really specify

[split cliff]

ill let him know, ty for the modifications :)

[mossy venture]

Could do this for a cheaper option btw
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PkkbXR

7700xt is like 40-50% better than the 3060

And the 8700f has less cache than 7000/9000 series cpus, causing it to flop in gaming perf

It's an 8700g with the igpu disabled, iirc that's closer to a 5600 in cpu perf than a 7600

[split cliff]

i have no idea what that means but i will take ur word for it and telll my friend his build is terrible LMAO

[lyric scarab]

Oh

[split cliff]

i built a pc before but im still like beginner in terms of what GPU/CPU/mobo is good together etc.

[manic cloak]

@lyric scarab I'd recommend going with a 4070S or a 7900 GRE (check if the 7900 GRE can do the job first though)

Zotac i'd buy refurbished from anyday tbh, they're like the only good GPU company for refurbished/open/used

plus you'll likely get extra warranty

[zenith cargo]

@dusky hearth I just found this on AliExpress: $165.28 | New K5 Pro ESS ES9038Q2M|768K/32Bit and DSD decoding Deskstop DAC and Amplifier for Home and Computer
https://a.aliexpress.com/_msJRwFv

This is also it right?

I just found this on AliExpress: $165.28 | New K5 Pro ESS ES9038Q2M|768K/32Bit and DSD decoding Deskstop DAC and Amplifier for Home and Computer
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtF8gIn

[dusky hearth]

not too sure if it is a legitimate listing, since the one i listed was the official store from the manufacturer

[lyric scarab]

Website? I'm not seeing on what I currently am on where to buy from

[manic cloak]

https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zt-d40700h-10smp-o

[lyric scarab]

Thx

[manic cloak]

It's OOS though

you can also try their ebay page

[dusky hearth]

these are sold by an account that has existed for 16 days

idk if i'd trust it

[manic cloak]

I wouldn't buy it ^

Plus if you were, i'd see if it's on temu

I heard temu has 100x better customer support than aliexpress

[dusky hearth]

fiio uses aliexpress as their store, but make sure to only buy from them

https://fiioaudio.aliexpress.com/

[forest lava]

Does anyone here play Terraria? I'm getting a problem where specifically Terraria runs at 15fps whereas all my other games run about as expected (200fps in bo6 for example). I know it's a problem with my setup because I've had odd gpu related issues ever since I built this pcm

I'm thinking of returning this 6800 and just getting a different card

[zenith cargo]

noice 👍

how much did u pay for that 7900xt

[mossy venture]

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[forest lava]

Ah the good ol ddu fix

[mossy venture]

Good place to start w any gpu related issues

[manic cloak]

before or after you load into a game

Cause terraria is the most unoptimized game

I'm usually at 99% util, 700 fps on tmod

[forest lava]

Yes

It becomes really bad in both the main menu and in game

But the odd thing is, I've played on a 6650xt and a 3050 and got solid 165fps (monitor cap)

Even with heavy mods

[shut rampart]

how do I remove standoff screw or I just dont

[zenith cargo]

for?

[shut rampart]

case

[manic cloak]

Still persisting after ddu?

[zenith cargo]

To open it yes

[shut rampart]

?

[forest lava]

Haven't DDUed yet

I'll have to do that after I move

Cancelled the wifi already

I could just download it to a usb stick from my phone, but then I'd have to also find out how to install the drivers

[mossy venture]

W

[shut rampart]

nvm theres a standoff screw that come with the box

[manic cloak]

What case is this?

It looks like a 205 but longer & looks bettef

[native plover]

Lian li lancool 207

[zenith cargo]

bro i have no idea

[native plover]

Exactly $600

I used student discount

[cyan ravine]

Based

[zenith cargo]

good deal

I bought mine used for $500, and that was when gpu prices were through the roof

6900xt

[split cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gFm8Yd

is this good, if not can someone improve it tyyy

[analog hearth]

100% agree. If AM5 is too expensive, honestly, just save up a hair more and go for a 7600(X) build. Maybe even just get a single 16GB stick first and then wait for your next paycheck to get another of the same 16GB stick so you have a proper 32GB setup

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WtQMZc

Even w the lcd display aio

[analog hearth]

I'm curious to see what people say about those SAMA AIOs

A budget Lian Li sounds nice

[potent portal]

Most people seem happy with it, and those that don't seem to not know how the software works

I tried to keep the same aesthetic, on the assumption that the Y70 would be the point of the build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xytHh7

[potent portal]

No filter evading, I'll give you a bit to correct that

[toxic barn]

???

what does that mean

[potent portal]

That means you have a curse word that you replaced the S with $

[toxic barn]

omg

really??

wow

are we 12?

[potent portal]

Afraid so, server rules. It's normally an immediate delete.

We do have people as young as 13 here.

[toxic barn]

i have a relatively outdated AMD gaming rig that i was hoping to optimize. I really only play Path of Exile, and there's clearly a bottleneck somehwere because my top fps is like 50-60 (dogpoopy, but still good enough to function in POE). When I look at system performance metrics when in game, it appears that my CPU is maxed out moreso than anything else, so I assume that's the likely bottleneck. Never upgraded a CPU, so I'm looking for some guidance here re: which CPUs I can buy, whether or not it will likely make a big difference, etc. DM me on here and I can share my CPU-Z screen grabs for system specs and details. Thanks.

there

better?

[potent portal]

Yes, thank you for your cooperation

[toxic barn]

lol

do u actualyl have some advice for me?

[potent portal]

What CPU do you have currently?

Oh yeah FX 8350, that's quite outdated

5700 XT as the GPU

[toxic barn]

ok.....and.....

i know these thing already

[potent portal]

What would your budget be for an upgrade?

I was saying that for the audience lol

[toxic barn]

well i want to explore just upghrading this machine first to see if i can get some dditional life out of it, so....

my biggest questions are....

1. is my CPU the bottlneck

2. if so, what cpus are options to make an actual impact

regardless of budget

ignore budget for npw

now

[potent portal]

1. most likely, FX was bad when it was new
2. there's nothing you can upgrade to without changing the motherboard and RAM as well

[toxic barn]

got it

so the motherboard and ram are limiting me to do much of anything?

[potent portal]

Yes, any upgrade that's worth it will require those 3 to be changed at the same time

[toxic barn]

is my GPU dogpoopy also?

[potent portal]

It would be ok for a bit longer if you're mostly playing at 1080p medium or something

[toxic barn]

got it

so i guess ill explore swapping into an NVIDIA board, CPU, GPU i guess

for this tower

where is the knee of the curve for NVIDIA GPU and CPU these days (on a graph of $ vs. performance)

meaning, inflection point where addtional cost doesnt give you as much benfit

benefit

[potent portal]

You could do an Intel CPU upgrade for about $300 give or take, everything included

Nvidia GPU you'd want another $400 unless you go used

[toxic barn]

got it

what does 400 give you for GPU these days

do u have example links for both?

like i said, i really only play one game...Path of Exile....

POE 2 is about to be released and this is the SR:

sent to your DM

[potent portal]

The 5700 XT still fits the recommended spec so you'd be good on the GPU technically

Sample upgrade https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bZPhyW

[toxic barn]

cool let me chekc it out

can u create a list for the option of using the AMD GPU with a new MB, mem, and CPU?

[potent portal]

It would be pretty much the same as that without the GPU

You could go a little cheaper on the CPU if needed

[toxic barn]

i cna use an AMD GPU with intel components???

[potent portal]

Yes 100%

[toxic barn]

didbnt know that

i bought my memory recently....i assume that its bricked moving forward because its only usable by my outdated MB?

[crimson zinc]

You can use an intel gpu with AMD CPUs as well

[toxic barn]

nice

[crimson zinc]

What is your list?

[potent portal]

They're on a FX 8350 and 5700 XT currently

Yeah the memory would be DDR3 so that's unusable on a modern system

I need to get my kid to the dentist so I'll leave you in the capable hands of the others here

[toxic barn]

sounds liek my mem isnt usable anyways, Seg

biut maybe to save costs up front, I'll plug my relatively older AMD GPU into a new Intel MB

and get new mem and CPU

is it as simple as plugging an AMD GPU into an Intell MB and it works seamlessly?

or are there other steps involved?

[potent portal]

It's as simple as that

[toxic barn]

nice

can u put another parts list together for me with the next higher tier or CPU and MB?

if im just going to temporarily use my AMD GPU for a bit, maybe i can through more cash at my new CPU and MB

throw*

[crimson zinc]

What’s your budget?

[toxic barn]

well technically no limits....but....

if im just going to use a temporary approach of using my AMD GPU, i may want to invest some aditional money into making sure my CPU and MB are above average (maybe) and will allow me to plug in a decent new GPU when im done with temporarily using my AMD GPU

when i upgade my GPU, i want to make sure by CPU and MB are decent

So if I drop more cash on a hugger intel cpu and a better MB, that might be a decent idea here

Higher end *

So I’m looking for example recommendations on those two components

[stoic island]

For gaming, best is 9800x3d, above average is 7800x3d, average is 13600k/14600k

It really depends on how much you want to spend

It's a question of $700 vs $450 vs $200

[toxic barn]

those are CPU specs?

i was thinking of switchign to intel

are those AMD models?

ok

what would be an example of an above avg intel CPU right now

not the vry best

[potent portal]

Intel upgrade (cooler upgrade required, shown) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MWFpGJ
AMD upgrade https://pcpartpicker.com/list/npnLFs

The reason the Intel chip needs a cooler here is twofold, they don't include one, and they get really hot so they need bigger cooling.

With the AMD 7600 it includes a cooler that's usually fine

[toxic barn]

thanks

[potent portal]

Dentist was quicker than I thought it would be lol

[toxic barn]

lol

is there a distinct reason or advantage for going with intel vs. amd for cpu?

[potent portal]

With the Intel CPU there's no viable upgrade path if you need a better CPU a few years from now

AMD there's plenty of options from there

[toxic barn]

i see

when u say upgrade, what are u referring to?

what gets upgraded in the future poten tially?

[potent portal]

Switching out the CPU for a better one on the same socket

[toxic barn]

got it

so its relaly abotu the AMD chipset tech?

[stoic island]

It's AMD's commitment to create more products on the same socket

[toxic barn]

got iot

it

ok

[potent portal]

The AMD socket just has more upgrade options, now and in the future. The Intel socket is dead, meaning no viable options for upgrade at any point.

[toxic barn]

got ya

[potent portal]

There is technically a newer Intel CPU. DO NOT GET IT. It's actually worse for gaming than the 13 and 14 series.

[toxic barn]

i see

ok

what advs do i get into with a higher end MB?

say if i dumped double the money into a better MB

ok

just trying to underatnad what featrures i gain maybe at that 150 ceiliung

the top of that price range

more ports? bluetiooth? etc

[potent portal]

You get more expansion slots for add in cards, sometimes better VRM but that only matters with the highest power (and cost) processors. Some boards have more heatsinks for things like M.2 drives. That's it.

[toxic barn]

got it

[crimson glade]

PC is being used for schoolwork and some gaming, I have a 1440p 180hz monitor as my main, either mitx or matx.

[warm badge]

turns out it was the RAM causing the issue

[potent portal]

Figured it would be

Was one stick working then?

[warm badge]

I tried each stick of the new RAM, and the mobo didn't want to recognize either one

[potent portal]

Neither? Wow

[warm badge]

but I have my new CPU and GPU working

I read that Corsair has an issue with their RAM sticks being incompatible for any number of arbitrary reasons

[potent portal]

Oh it was corsair, yeah their DDR4 is trash tier on a good day

[warm badge]

good thing Wegg sent me those for free

I'd be angry if I paid for that

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gLfGGJ I changed the ram to g.skill trident 64gb ram, is this good or no @mossy venture (sorry for ping btw, you’re the only that knows what is going on with what I’m planning, also I want the ram rgb if you think this one isn’t good)

[potent portal]

While I may not know the specific situation I can say that Bacca would not recommend that memory since it's Samsung dies

Am I correct on that?

[mossy venture]

I told you what I'd suggest. Anythnig else is not what id suggest lmao

64gb is also just completely unnecesary for you

like the i7

[potent portal]

Generally speaking anything above 48GB is also going to hurt performance

[little osprey]

How? I’m actually curious, I thought more ram was better

[potent portal]

It's harder for the memory controller to run so it has to either run at lower frequency or higher latency

In this case it's the latter, higher latency

I'm guessing the kit you were previously recommended was 6000 c30

[little osprey]

I also had to change gpu because the one I had originally selected went out of stock, is the one I chose now still good or is the gigabyte a bad one?

Yeah I think that’s right, lemme get the previous list

[potent portal]

As far as the specific model goes, it's fine

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MnxHh7

This the one with the old ram

[little osprey]

Also model of what? The gpu?

[mossy venture]

imo well prob see 4080s around that price very soon

[little osprey]

About when? Also I got to go back to work now, but the gigabyte gpu is fine?

[mossy venture]

yes. I imagine will see it drop to the 800s w black friday cyber monday sales

[stoic island]

I wouldn't be too hopeful if they haven't started yet, generally cyber Monday deals aren't better than Black Friday deals, and Black Friday deals are already on

[mossy venture]

weve seen 4080s in the 800s before tho, and open box was just $820 or so iirc

with new gpus right around the corner imo im expecting some price cuts to off load stock as much as they can, but maybe im tripping

[stoic island]

I'm not too hopeful for it, retailers don't really drop prices much until the next gen actually comes, it's the used market that gets impacted most

[finite drum]

How do I check what cpu cooler I have, short of taking the whole thing apart?

[tawny violet]

You got the box?

It should have a model number on it

[finite drum]

No, I don't

[tawny violet]

Receipt?

Model number is everywhere

[finite drum]

No, this is an old cooler

[tawny violet]

You got an image of it?

We can try reverse searching (or someone just happens to know what it is)

[finite drum]

Is the only way to do it by looking at it manually? It is not that important, I am just putting it into pcpartpicker and it should work anyway

Nevermind, thank you anyway

[tawny violet]

No biggie

[finite drum]

Is this a good build? Is there anything big I am missing? (I have a cooler and case, I just not sure what its name is)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dndzYd

[split cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GtXJ7P/xfx-speedster-merc-310-black-edition-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx-79xmercb9

this is my GPU

i’m already using 2 displays with this GPU:

• 1440p ultrawide @ 60 Hz
• 2160p (4K) @ 240 Hz (main monitor)

my friend is giving away his 4K monitor to me

does it support 1440p + 4K + another 4K?

[mossy venture]

Id do a diff ssd, that's really overpriced

Fx900 pro at $104 if the sale is still going is just as good

M482 at $90 will accomplish the same thing, it's technichally worse on paper but won't make a difference in games

You could do the b650m hdv at $100, it's just as good as the pro rs

[finite drum]

I wasn't sure on that one, what is the difference?

[mossy venture]

I think the hdv has one less m.2 slot

But both are good choices

Neither has wifi, so if you're not using ethernet you'd need a wifi adapter

Or just a diff mobo that comes with wifi

[finite drum]

didn't I put the one with wifi?

[shut rampart]

Does everything look good

[mossy venture]

Oh mb

Then nvm ignore me

[finite drum]

ok

so it is good?

[mossy venture]

The ssd thing still stands tho

It's not that that ssd is bad just really overpriced

And you'll need to update firmware with it to make sure it doesn't have the faulty version that commits self die

[finite drum]

I wanted it to be more reliable though, I feel like a name brand would be less likely to give out. Knowing my luck with technology, if it can break it will

[mossy venture]

Msi m482 and hp fx900 pro are both name brand

And model>brand

But its your pc at the end of the day

Just make sure you update firmware if you go for a Samsung ssd

[finite drum]

wdym

[mossy venture]

The software the ssd runs on

There's a faulty version samsung had a while ago that had ssds dying very early

There's still some affected ssds mixed in with current stock. If you update firmware it's fine.

If you dont and the ssd dies, samsung won't honor warranty

Because samsung things

[finite drum]

ok, thank you for letting me know that

thanks for the help

[mossy venture]

Np

[snow wasp]

https://link.gy/634ca
ASUS ROG Strix LC II 240 All-in-one AIO Liquid CPU Cooler 240mm Radiator
Can someone please tell me if this is good for my 5800x3d?

[mossy venture]

No

First do you alr own the cpu

Considering you're playing star citizen I'm taking that as a yes

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BRMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-evo-69-cfm-cpu-cooler-phantom-spirit-120-evo

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MzMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-argb

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vHZXsY/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-240-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00134a

[shut rampart]

Where do I put all of these cable to?

im guessing connect the the fans each other and then the rgb cable to one?

[plucky timber]

is that a fan header on the fan cable?

or is that a rgb header

[shut rampart]

its an aio cooler, so one rgb header and one fan header

[plucky timber]

what's the header on the left?

[stoic island]

Might be daisy chain argb

[shut rampart]

oki I found out that the fans go into a fan hub which was included, I conntected that already now I dont know what about the rgb

[little osprey]

Is it true the 13th and 14th gen cpus are having overheating issues? I just kinda found that out

[mossy venture]

No

They had voltage issues and a manufactures defect that have been fixed

And they have like a 5 or 6 yr warranty i forget, but they extended it on 13th/14th

[zenith cargo]

@dusky hearth do I need anything else for my audio setup?

[dusky hearth]

Nope
Unless you want to add stuff like speakers or such

[crimson zinc]

Upgrades in order: PSU~>motherboard~>cpu~>nvme~>case

[inland parrot]

its it better to get 32gb kit (2x16gb) 4600mhzc18 ram or 32gb kit 3600mhzc18 ram

[cyan ravine]

Well 4600 definitely won't work on whatever you planned to use it on

Both because it's very hard to run and also if you're asking the question you won't know how to make it run

So the 2nd one

3600

[inland parrot]

i am tryying to play star citizen

[cyan ravine]

Doesn't change my answer

Sorry

[rough loom]

Something Ive always been curious about. Does it matter if you do Ram slot 1,3 vs 2,4 for dual channel?

[stoic island]

Star citizen really cares about the ram but you still need to be able to run that ram 1:1 for the best performance

[cyan ravine]

2,4 primarily is the universal standard

[rough loom]

huh interesting. Ive never noticed that in build videos until today

[stoic island]

It depends on the topology of the motherboard, basically all now are daisy chain afaik, so theoretically you can get fractions of a fraction of a fraction of a nanosecond difference using the closer traces, but if it's t-top, there is no difference

[rough loom]

MSI 870E carbon wifi. I will probably just swap them to 2,4 for a tiny more clearance with the AIO wires

[stoic island]

I think its all daisy chain past like x470, don't think anyone keeps track now lol

[cyan ravine]

All documentation now just says it anyway

[rough loom]

Interesting

[cyan ravine]

Very very few boards use ttop

Most noteworthy would be the formula boards

[rough loom]

I thank you for the answer

[inland parrot]

they have a dual channel 64gb running at 3600mhz

[rough loom]

For star citizen the 3 key takeaways are. Ram, CPU speed (3d v cache amd chips slay intel), and a fast gen 4 nvme

gpu only matters when rendering some cloud and gas cloud tech

server performance is a greater limiting factor at this time anyways

[stoic island]

ngl with how star citizen feature creep is going I wouldn't be surprised if the hardware requirements just start changing around every patch

[rough loom]

I wouldnt either, as until they nail down server streaming everything is brute force ran through hardware right now

[potent portal]

The reason being it's better when using 4 sticks but worse when using 2 or less 🙃

[rough loom]

some demands have been brought down with some of the gen12 render pipelines

addition of dlss/fsr also helps

[inland parrot]

any recomdation of ram sticks that are 64gb and I also want some lights

[stoic island]

ddr4?

what CPU?

[inland parrot]

yeah

amd ryzen 5 5600x and Motherboard is MSI B550 A- PRO

[rough loom]

if in the future you can nab a cheap X3D cpu. For star citizen the gains are rediculous

[cyan ravine]

Ok I would sell that combo and go DDR5

7500F +64GB + good A620M costs only a little more than a 5700X3D with the same spec and delivers the same performance if not better

[untold orbit]

Anyone had luck getting their hands on a Taichi 870e or 9800X3D

[shut rampart]

Are these fans setup right

[shut rampart]

I got my 9800x3d

[cyan ravine]

Hi

[shut rampart]

It’s in this build too

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[untold orbit]

Amazing. I missed my opportunity. Hoping new inventory pops up after Thanksgiving for the big shopping days.

[untold orbit]

What's happenin'

[dusky hearth]

you gotta keep your eye out regularly for restocks

[shut rampart]

Now just got to do cable management and this pc is good to go

[cyan ravine]

Helping about 5 people simultaneously

But I got a 9800X3D AMA

[untold orbit]

I have email alerts set on 3 different sites

[potent portal]

Admins have popped in here a few times to announce restocks about an hour before they happen

[untold orbit]

Sounds like you're the man

[cyan ravine]

I am a male

[shut rampart]

I got my 9800x3d at a microcenter that if you got one…

[untold orbit]

Now we're talking

[untold orbit]

I have 2 within a 90 minute drive.

I'm hoping to pair it with the Taichi, unless there's a better option in the same price range. I'm open to rec's

[potent portal]

MC would be a great option for you then. They don't do online sales of CPUs or GPUs so they're able to hold stock better.

[shut rampart]

I am lucky enough to have a MC 13mins away

[cyan ravine]

Taichi lite is honestly better

Or B650M/HDV is a world record holder

A620i Lightning also runs one better if you can do bios mods to turn it into a B650i Lightning

Taichi lite is probably overall best performer rn tho

It's been as low as like

200?

Really really good board

Or if you just want the features and not the overclocking, X670 UD is an easy winner

[untold orbit]

I like what i'm hearing. That was honestly my backup if I couldn't get my hands on the standard.

[cyan ravine]

Yeah man

Think of X870, X670, B650 etc as just a type of usb hub

The performance of the motherboard is a separate part of it

The chipset choice will matter if you need to have a lot of something that's not normal

Like, overclocking, usb, pcie slots (Very expensive), audio, storage slots etc

[cyan ravine]

I bring receipts btw

https://wccftech.com/asrock-110-us-b650-motherboard-sets-overclocking-world-record-amd-ryzen-9-7950x-cpu/

Extremely overbuilt budget board because asrock said so

Overclocks extremely well

[untold orbit]

That's incredible

[cyan ravine]

Just food for thought

If you need to consider the case as a result of the board let us know

We can accomodate

[untold orbit]

I've already purchased the TT t500

[cyan ravine]

T500?

Ah yeah

I saw

Too many T's

[untold orbit]

haha

[cyan ravine]

TT TT500T

[untold orbit]

Full tower build.

Yeah that one

[cyan ravine]

500 hm

US?

[untold orbit]

yep US

Newegg had it onsale for $94

[cyan ravine]

Tell me in a sentence, what kind of stuff will you do with the pc

How much of each would you say

In a %

[untold orbit]

I'm building a faster gaming pc for my son.

[cyan ravine]

Ok he's using it just for games?

[untold orbit]

Last year I built him one with i9 12900k, 3080 10gb and 32gm DDR5 6600

I'm turning that one into the casual gaming PC for myself and work comp for the wife.

[cyan ravine]

Ahhh

Ok what kind of games does he play

Just games?

[untold orbit]

Right now just Fortnite and Valorant. He's younger, but looking to get him into some other RPG type games

[cyan ravine]

Ok does he use a lot of usb stuff

Or just headphones, mouse, keyboard

Basics

[untold orbit]

he has a mic and camera as well.

[cyan ravine]

So 5, +2

Ok brb

@untold orbit overclocking?

More than xmp when I say that

[untold orbit]

Considering, but probably not at the moment. I have the corsair i170 420mm radiator going in it

[cyan ravine]

Oh it won't need one

The thing has intel type temps lmao

I think I top out at like 70C on a 360mm

[untold orbit]

Yeah, that's not bad at all

[cyan ravine]

Ok I'll drop 3 suggestions here

I was gonna suggest the taichi lite, but it's now 414

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KrWJ7P/gigabyte-b650-aorus-elite-ax-v2-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-aorus-elite-ax-v2
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CvcgXL/gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-eagle-ax
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m7mmP6/gigabyte-x670-aorus-elite-ax-rev-10-atx-am5-motherboard-x670-aorus-elite-ax-rev-10

Oops

There we go

If you do vertical gpu

You could hide an mATX

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dq4Zxr/asrock-b650m-hdvm2-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-hdvm2

$99

[untold orbit]

would you recommend the 4070 ti super or 4080 super? 4090 is a no go.

[untold orbit]

That's crazy

[cyan ravine]

Rn?

7900XT

Competes with both but it's $600

Sorry 620 now

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/k72WGX/powercolor-hellhound-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx7900xt-20g-loc

It sits like

Right between both

[untold orbit]

I think all the prices are back to retail until Friday and Monday.

[cyan ravine]

Btw

For just fps games

[untold orbit]

That's a badboy machine