building-and-recc-chat

[potent portal]

Copy the folder to the desktop and zip it

Unless that's the only file in it

[analog hearth]

yeah that's the only one lol

[potent portal]

ok then one min

[analog hearth]

bett thanks

could also be memory though tbh. Felix and I have been trying to troubleshoot some micro stutters (not just in games but also on the desktop without anything too heavy running). Tuning the memory a bit fixed a big portion of that micro stutter issue but it's still there

idk if this BSOD is a related issue though

[potent portal]

Welp

[analog hearth]

interesting

[potent portal]

No help there

[analog hearth]

it happened randomly too. I was just browsing on Amazon and then the BSOD happened (it actually looked kinda cool though because the text was there but my wallpaper from Wallpaper Engine was there too instead of a blue background lolll)

[potent portal]

Yeah that would line up with a memory error... but then SSD errors often look like memory errors so back to square one

[analog hearth]

It's weird because I've had this issue on the same make and model SSD (different storage amounts) but tuning my memory has sort of fixed another issue

lol Steam Streaming virtual audio devices are in BlueScreenView

no way that's the issue though I'd imagine

[potent portal]

Probably not but you never know with kernel errors

[analog hearth]

I'm still kinda leaning towards the SSD I'm using

I've also been using it for years atp lol. Still shows as healthy in CrystalDiskInfo but so did the last SSD I was using with this issue

[potent portal]

SMART info is only helpful for certain types of failures

[analog hearth]

true

that's interesting

used to have a bunch of errors almost constantly when I had this issue years ago lol

@potent portal you know what's also interesting? I've tried to install chipset drivers multiple times. I knew something felt wrong with the installation when I'd go to the power profiles and I wouldn't see the AMD power profiles

Multiple other AMD devices have this issue (in Device Manager)
(Actually just "AMD PPM Provisioning File" and "AMD SMBus"*)

(Talking about the "No drivers are installed for this device" btw)

[potent portal]

AMD power profiles haven't been a thing since 3000

[analog hearth]

oh gotcha

[potent portal]

They just recommend balanced now

[analog hearth]

This is my first AM5 build lol

interesting. I've been using High Performance

[potent portal]

High performance is actually not recommended because it doesn't let the processor sleep properly

[analog hearth]

Didn't know that

idk if it matters, but I had my computer on all day yesterday. I put my computer to sleep about midday (actually for the first time since it's been on an AM5 platform). I had this BSOD later last night

Morning: turned on my computer and chilled at my desk for a second
Midday: Put it to sleep
Night: BSOD

But again idk if that matters

[potent portal]

Actually there is a known issue with sleep on AMD/Windows

[analog hearth]

maybe that would explain the random BSOD?

[potent portal]

It hasn't been fully fixed in ages, I completely avoid using sleep now

[analog hearth]

Kind of a longshot but do you think it's the same with Bulldozer? I recall quite a while ago that I woke my PC up from sleeping and it just immediately gave me a BSOD lol

[potent portal]

Also a known issue is "memory context restore" when you're overclocking memory; when you reboot it fails to load the old data properly so it's better to disable that setting if you're having blue screens that can't be otherwise explained

[potent portal]

No the only issue with bulldozer was AMD outright lying about the physical configuration

[analog hearth]

I think I read something like that in a random YouTube comment

forgot whether I have that enabled though

[analog hearth]

gotcha lolll that makes sense

[potent portal]

Disable for stability, enable for faster boots

It takes me 67 seconds for a cold boot with it disabled, not too bad

[analog hearth]

I could be wrong but I think I have it disabled already

imma check real quick

it was enabled. I disabled it

[potent portal]

Hopefully that's the end of it then

[analog hearth]

First and last would be nice

[cyan ravine]

Unstable vcore voltage/vsoc voltage

Also

Your error is so deep in the kernel this could be a bigger problem than you'd like

A new reinstall may be on the cards but your immediate problem is it's a voltage issue

We tested vsoc so I'm wagering it's vcore

Might have a curve optimiser setting the pc can't do, or maybe an undervolt

One way or another it looks like it needs addressing

Postive curve optimising +5 or +10 could do it, or a mild overvolt of 0.05v could also

Either or

Hopefully it's not already running really hot tho

[analog hearth]

:(

[cyan ravine]

Needs fixing simple as that

We addressed potentially a lot of the problem

Need to address the other half

[analog hearth]

My bad I meant to read that earlier

[analog hearth]

I sent this just to acknowledge your message lol

Yeah I don't have time tonight nor tomorrow morning but hopefully tomorrow afternoon

[drowsy perch]

I have a question how many deals do we normally see for components for Black Friday or for Christmas in general

[potent portal]

It's different every year

[jagged ember]

Usually many

But yeah it's not consistent

[drowsy perch]

Is it enough to consider waiting a few months?

[astral flame]

my cpu is running at max frequency but the load is like 3% and its running at 36 F with youtube on. Is that bad or nah

[obsidian wigeon]

use celsius

but no that's perfectly fine

that's how turbo boost works

it's running high clocks but it's not being utilized

just to maintain smoothness

[analog hearth]

No way it's at 36F 💀

[obsidian wigeon]

oh wait

2c?

wth

is your cpu doused with ln2 or what

[potent portal]

Only you can answer that. How much value do you put on the time you would be able to spend with it before the sales?

[drowsy perch]

Ok thanks

[jagged ember]

36F??

I'm pretty sure he missed the c button

[analog hearth]

I think he meant C but read it as F

Don't know how you wouldn't catch that though 💀

[jagged ember]

I suppose both are possible

Not the 2 degrees celcius CPU temp on an air cooler though

[analog hearth]

Bruh fr 💀💀

[jagged ember]

My CPU is literally 2 degrees away from phase changing water into ice

Am I cooked?

[analog hearth]

Reminder to all the new people:

• SSD cards don't exist. It's either an SSD or an SD card
• M.2 does not mean specifically NVMe. SATA M.2 drives exist too

[runic cedar]

https://amzn.eu/d/8Uj8Stk can anyone recommend me any other case that comes with argb fans like this one and has the same build?

[runic cedar]

I'd say you are frozen

[dusky hearth]

let it go

[cyan ravine]

☠️

[cyan ravine]

Dad?

[runic cedar]

Anyone got a good case recommendation?

With rgb fans already built in preferably

[cyan ravine]

Okinos aqua

[runic cedar]

?

[wheat zealot]

Montech cases are always nice

[runic cedar]

Is it available in germany? And is it <100€?

[wheat zealot]

Okinos is like $60-$70 US depends on the model tho I think

[runic cedar]

And is it the same design as this?

[wheat zealot]

Okinos is like that yeah

Also the montech xr

[cyan ravine]

Antec also has one

[runic cedar]

Not available for me

[wheat zealot]

What about Montech XR

[runic cedar]

Musetex they are also cheaper

85 euros

But non RGB fans

For 10 more I get the version with argb

Nvm its the same company i didnt realoze

Realize

I guess this 95 euros is my only option

Or should I just go with a tradtional case?

[mossy venture]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/3JQKHx/phanteks-xt-view-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-xt523v1-dbk01

Also
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/fc88TW/montech-xr-atx-mid-tower-case-xr-b

[runic cedar]

This seems promising but neither have 6 argb fans

[mossy venture]

Fans are cheap and easily added

Oh also this one
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/VT88TW/thermaltake-view-170-argb-microatx-mini-tower-case-ca-1z4-00m1wn-00

[hasty cove]

Anyone got any decent laptop recommendations that can reliably run Fortnite and vr games? Maybe something on Amazon that might be on sale 500-700 is the preferred budget 👍

(USD)

[mossy venture]

i saw a 4060 7735hs laptop on sale in that range

lemme see if i can find it again

Oh rip it was microcenter
https://www.microcenter.com/product/677170/acer-nitro-v-anv15-41-r2ms-156-gaming-laptop-computer-obsidian-black

I'd check out r/laptopdeals

[hasty cove]

Ew Reddit

[covert vapor]

Reddit isn't all ew

Just 90% of it is

[mossy venture]

?

A lot of people and communities on reddit are gross but it's very useful for tech deals

[hasty cove]

Jk

[runic cedar]

MSI MAG CORELIQUID C360

Thoughts on this aio?

I already purchased it but I guess I can return it

Bought it cuz it looks fire

[raven saffron]

quick question for yall. how do you go about picking parts for a computer that will work well together on a budget? Do you have some go to tools. I am familiar with pc part picker for checking compatibility. but wanting to get the best bang for my buck.

[stoic island]

The performance is average, you have to keep in mind that it's about double the price of a thermalright frozen prism 360mm while having similar if not worse performance.
If you want to pay that much extra for the looks, that's your choice, but if you just want performance, you can have it for much cheaper.

[runic cedar]

Im running it on a ryzen 5 5600 in a place where my cats lay down, its performance probably doesnt need to be as high as some other ones

But if Im unhappy I'll just refund it and buy another one instead

[stoic island]

for what part specifically? there's various little bits of information for each part that you can find, but pcpartpicker is the main tool

[runic cedar]

Thats still pc part picker since it lists the prices and lets you compare everything

It gives you the cheapest available prices already

[runic cedar]

You think it will matter even if Im not running a high end cpu?

[raven saffron]

I am trying to build a pc for a golf simulator. and the specs it recommends is a 3080 and a core i5. in each of those there is still tons of options and was wondering how you go about narrowing down the options.

[stoic island]

for a 5600, all you need performance wise is something like a peerless assassin/phantom spirit, which is ~$35, if you just want the looks of an AIO, Frozen prism 360mm is ~$60, Frozen prism 360mm with argb is ~$70, and a MSI C360 is going to cost you ~$130. If you want to spend that much extra money just for looks, go for it

You should just put the prices into perspective

[stoic island]

For that, reviews and benchmarks are your friend

[runic cedar]

70$ - 100$ for a big difference in looks I would go with the 100$ one if Im not worried about getting through the month

Im so tired

[stoic island]

as long as you know that money is spent only on looks and not performance, it's your money

[runic cedar]

If Im good on my bank account after the purchase for the rest of the month then I would go for the more expensive but better looking one

[runic cedar]

Well its still both tho, right? Since Im only using stock atm

[stoic island]

TPU's list is nice for a quick and dirty look at relative performance in a chart, but you should really look at full reviews to look at other options and compare prices and performance
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3080.c3621

[runic cedar]

I also bought a 2 side glasspanel case

[stoic island]

For a 5600, you are going to get the same performance from a $30 cooler and a $130 AIO

[runic cedar]

And 80 euro ram

DDR4, 3600 C16

Or sth

Lemme check

[raven saffron]

thank you

[runic cedar]

64 gb, 3600 MHz, C16

Vengeance

RGB

A 116 euro ARGB case (including 6 argb fans)

And an RGB GPU support

I do want a good looking pc now that its capable of running all my games flawlessly and since I wont be making the jump to 4k for atleast another year (in which I will be making a lot more money) I dont really worry about upgrading anything anymore except maybe my gpu on a good rtx 40s series or a rx 7000s deal

Its like pimping out your honda civic, you can always spend more money to upgrade but at some point you got all the performance you need and you just want to have fun with it and make it look nice

https://youtube.com/shorts/LTAwIw0OtXk?si=f8LL00WJRIkssQTY

[green laurel]

can someone help me out that if a frequent pc builder i am having issues, DM me is possible please.

[hasty cove]

So this can at least run Fortnite pretty well right ? My desktop was having some issues with fps recently because it updated and got more demanding

[mossy venture]

Go to YouTube and search 4060 mobile fortnite benchmark

[rugged moon]

i need help Downloads constantly fail and say "Check Internet Connection" or "Network Error" despite being connected to internet. All file types, sizes, and websites and pc have this same issue.

[haughty void]

so does anyone have a suggestion for anti sag brakcet for a 4090 in a Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2

[potent portal]

Hang it from the HDD bracket with some twine or something

[haughty void]

wat

theres no hdd bracket in it

oh wait

[haughty void]

thats the default config

either way

im not doing some stupid idea like that

but thanks

[little osprey]

BUILD IS FINISHED

wires managed as best as i could figure

[potent portal]

Is it stupid if it would work though

[haughty void]

it would but im not installing hdd bracket to just do that

and he doesnt even agree to it

[potent portal]

Oh it's for someone else

You can use the screw holes to attach something at least

[haughty void]

my brother in law

he wanted an option to do where it wouldnt look stupid lol

if this was my build

i woldve did lego

[potent portal]

I'm not sure Lego would be a good option in this case since the bottom is so far from the GPU, and you probably want fans there

[haughty void]

no i mean with me

i dont use this case

but

i was thinking of

https://www.mnpctech.com/products/rtx-4060-4070-4080-4090-gpu-anti-sag-support-arm-bracket

something like this

but he doesnt like its not a retailer

just some shopify store

[jagged ember]

Good god that's tall af

Just build an entire Lego apartment at that point

[little osprey]

what do you guys use to benchmark temperature and stress test o:

[jagged ember]

Video games and hwinfo and MSI afterburner

[little osprey]

hmmmmm

the only game i have that i know has a stress test option is rdr2

[jagged ember]

No like literally play the game lol

[little osprey]

oh lmao

[jagged ember]

That's how we test overclocks if we don't use occt

[little osprey]

i was trying to see how good my cooling solution and fans are under like, max load

[jagged ember]

Which needs a bit of tuning that I don't understand

If you wanted a power hog test, p95 and furmark should still be good for that

[little osprey]

ooo okey ill check it out

[jagged ember]

Furmark idk as much since it's getting kinda old

Keep in mind you have to manually stop them

[little osprey]

i gotcha, i've used furmark before but not in a long time

i'm still not happy with my wire management but 😐 i think it's good enough for now

i think i'll have to buy some custom 8 pins for my gpu to be satisfied lol

oh neat it only goes up to 62c with prime95

[potent portal]

Furmark 2 is out

[jagged ember]

No way

[dusky hearth]

[green laurel]

i am having a bit of an issue. i put together a new pc and when all is done i went to power on and the only thing that recieved power was the asus light on the MB and a red triangle with a exclamation sign in the middle of AIO LCD screen. any ideas?

[languid nebula]

Hi guys I'm looking to upgrade my cpu but unfortunately my motherboard is too old to upgrade to a newer cpu, so I will have to get new motherboard cpu and cooler. I am quite nervous and want to make sure the parts I've selected will still work together and with what I've got.
NEW PARTS:
Intel Core i9-12900KF 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler

ASRock B660M Pro RS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard

[cyan ravine]

That sounds pretty fine to me tbh

[languid nebula]

Old parts I will still use:
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
ADATA Premier SP550 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1060 6gb(will be upgrading to 3060 at some point)
and a 600W supply

[cyan ravine]

Ok

The first message

You started great

[languid nebula]

lol

[cyan ravine]

Second half, wildly needs work

The ram can be kept

Power supply needs changing

Ssd is ok

Gpu ok

[runic cedar]

I bought a gpu support with rgb but its saying to not put it in the RGB header but something else? A 3 pin connector, is it just so it doesnt unnecessarily use up a rgb header on my mobo?

[cyan ravine]

The case, make sure it's not this glass volcano box

[languid nebula]

case is an older one as well, ibuypower just standard no glass not fancy

also what wattage supply will i need

[cyan ravine]

Nzxt c750 gold might still be $80, for the case I'd go maybe okinos aqua or sama argb-q5

$140-ish all up

Just cos the 12900kf will get hot under that cooler

Quite hot

[runic cedar]

@cyan ravine u wanna see my pc on saturday night (german time) when I finish it?

[cyan ravine]

You want a good airflow case to make that config doable

[runic cedar]

Its going to look fire

[cyan ravine]

Sure

[runic cedar]

Finally I get to make a cool looking build

[languid nebula]

yeah the supply is still 80 and ill go with that case as well

ty!

[cyan ravine]

@languid nebula
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QwJ3fy

Oh nvm

All good lol

Glad to help

[languid nebula]

if I'm changing this much is it better just to get a whole new pc or just keep doing what Im doing

[runic cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6B3YpB
@cyan ravine

Now add these to the mix

[cyan ravine]

Keep going

[cyan ravine]

Have you bought any of this

[runic cedar]

Yes why

Its for aesthetics

Since I will only upgrade my whole setup end of next year

That means new am5 cpu, new gen GPU and ddr5 ram

[cyan ravine]

Up to you, just curious

[runic cedar]

Why

[cyan ravine]

||I can do an am5 build for the same price is all||

[stoic island]

3 pin aRGB is NOT compatible with 4 pin RGB, they're different headers, don't try to use an RGB header for it

[runic cedar]

Oh no dont get it mixed up, I had to buy my gf a new pc, and now I just bought the stuff like ram, case and extras for my existing pc

I have b 550 plus, ryzen 5 5600, aegis 16 gb ddr4 c16 and rx 6600 already

[cyan ravine]

Ah

[runic cedar]

I paid maybe 300 max for aesthetics

So as i was saying to that add

(6 argb fans included)

And this

[cyan ravine]

Ah ok

Lol

[runic cedar]

My pc is going to look fire

It runs well enough for now

End of next year is when an upgrade seems reasonable probably

RTX still isnt that strong with raytracing atleast not if you have a budget

[cyan ravine]

I think so too

[runic cedar]

If I wanted to just upgrade I would have gone with a rtx 30 something series but like I said not really that much difference as I dont even play everything on 1440p max settings

[cyan ravine]

We're kinda in a lull rn

[runic cedar]

Exactly

Im waiting for the last advancements to be ironed out fully and new cutting edge technology to jump on instead of going full ham right now

[cyan ravine]

Fibre optic traces are still something the future holds

[runic cedar]

Exactly

I work with fibre optics lmao

[cyan ravine]

I am hunkering down now I think

5090 might be fun but the day we get optics in everything then it's game over for old tech

[runic cedar]

Yes

Not really

But yes

Cuz the moment optics take over, everything else will get cheaper and people will buy that instead for a few years

[cyan ravine]

Well, mostly yes, massive signal integrity improvement leading to big data jumps and ipc, and then you have throughput improvements jumping in magnitudes

Suddenly the 4090 would look like a pipsqueak

[runic cedar]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

Get that 6060 Ti pumping out 15x the fps just cos fibre came into play

Data go brrrr

Lol

[runic cedar]

Im saying in the consumer space the optics would just be a far out dream for a few years

No1 will be able to afford the new OTX 69420 until the next better stuff comes out

Always has been like this sadly

GB of data every second

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah def

I'm just excited about it

First time I've seen something that feels like a lightbulb moment for the 21st century

[runic cedar]

That will probably elevate our species to the next level

[stoic island]

Knowing Nvidia they'd probably do something like make a 4060ti with optics and call it 5080 and mark up the price a ton

[runic cedar]

A ton was 4090 prices

The mark up will be astronomically high

Never before seen

[cyan ravine]

Then they'll release something like super oled

[obsidian wigeon]

super tandem oled max

[cyan ravine]

All the great things about oled but somehow better in every way to life-like appearance

[obsidian wigeon]

[runic cedar]

Probably comes with a price tag of 50800$

[cyan ravine]

Comes with a free kidney transplant program from LG

[runic cedar]

[obsidian wigeon]

Be careful tho

They might harvest your other organs too

[stoic island]

Maybe it'll make OLED much brighter

[obsidian wigeon]

For marketing

[stoic island]

HDR 9000 when

[potent portal]

They're actually working on that now, they have AI working on a plastic they can use instead of the organic layer so no burn in

[obsidian wigeon]

9000 nits sounds very eye fatiguing

[cyan ravine]

Nah they'll just insert a marketing chip to make me remember they have other organ programs

3 times a day

[obsidian wigeon]

Fair enough

[stoic island]

Gotta have a huge dynamic range, make looking at the sun in a game just like looking at a sun normally

[cyan ravine]

Q-

[runic cedar]

Talking about having to sell organs to buy a 4090, what about optic gen? Sell my whole body on the black market and still miss a few hundred thousands

[cyan ravine]

QD-OLED tho???

[obsidian wigeon]

Gotta wear sun glasses to see the sun in GTA 10

[stoic island]

It's a feature for realism

[cyan ravine]

Jensen would send out security to seize your body

[stoic island]

It'll still be GTA6, we all know that's going to take forever to come out

[obsidian wigeon]

And car accidents in GTA 10 will injure you too

[stoic island]

Sell your soul for a 5090

[obsidian wigeon]

Getting shot will be more realistic than ever

[runic cedar]

Nah I think GTA 6 will probabl release within the next decade or two

[potent portal]

You're assuming my soul has any value

[stoic island]

We'd probably get hdr9000, if it ever happens, within the next decade or two :p

[stoic island]

One man's trash is another man's treasure

Maybe Nvidia needs to burn souls to make more money, you never know

[obsidian wigeon]

with HDR9000, you won't need to turn on your lights

[dusky hearth]

hdreyesgone

[obsidian wigeon]

the screen is a light source for your room

[potent portal]

Dedicated circuit on your breaker required

[dusky hearth]

one day the monitor is gonna be so bright that someone's gonna shine a 1w laser into their camera and you'll be blinded permanantly from the hdr monitor ong frfr

[cyan ravine]

Hdr 1000 already does that, 9000 would be a flash bang bro

[runic cedar]

oh god I can see the youtube videos already "I bought the brightest monitor in the world EXTREME FAIL"

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

getting flashbanged in cs2 won't feel the same

[runic cedar]

It will you mean

[obsidian wigeon]

phone screens are already peaking 2000+ nits

tho for a brief period

and in small pixels

[stoic island]

Outdoor gaming

Use monitor as a spotlight

[cyan ravine]

Actual flashbangs

Gotta duck out the way

[runic cedar]

It'll be super realistic

[cyan ravine]

It even comes with post op care

[stoic island]

The bang needs to be more impactful than the flash

[cyan ravine]

Need a cataract surgery

[runic cedar]

You will see pro players dodge their monitors in tournaments

[stoic island]

Gotta push 100w through your headphones

[obsidian wigeon]

imagine

presidents of countries going on world war 3

in a cs match

[runic cedar]

I wish

[stoic island]

They're already so close to the monitor it's as impactful as it can be

[cyan ravine]

They gotta duck AND throw the headphones

[potent portal]

There's TVs that can hit 4000 already

[obsidian wigeon]

jesus

[runic cedar]

No blood shed just gamers being gamers

[potent portal]

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/qm8-qm851g-qled#test_179

[obsidian wigeon]

of course it's a tcl

does it burn in ultra fast?

[stoic island]

Won't be enough, if it lands anywhere in the room it's still going to enough to make you temporarily deaf

[potent portal]

4167 in SDR 2% window

[obsidian wigeon]

wow

sdr?

not even in hdr lmao

[potent portal]

HDR is more color accurate so it only hits 3467 at 10%

[runic cedar]

The big brain plays that would happen in tournaments would be insane, you flashbang yourself but turn the monitor into your enemies eyes and throw your headphones towards them

[stoic island]

Only 968nits max for 100% smh

[runic cedar]

That'll be my setup once I get my stuff on saturday

[cyan ravine]

It later gets banned for unrealistic gameplay

Lmfao

[runic cedar]

[potent portal]

Because by then it's drawing over 300W with no active fan

[runic cedar]

Make a sub-category for game only e-sports

[obsidian wigeon]

a tv drawing more than a laptop doing gaming

[runic cedar]

And one for actual e-sports

[obsidian wigeon]

dang

im baffled

[cyan ravine]

Is it a demon

[runic cedar]

Im baffles was right

Me too

[cyan ravine]

Im waffles

[runic cedar]

Dude I wish I was the same

[obsidian wigeon]

all we need now is

scent device

[runic cedar]

Dude

[obsidian wigeon]

so we can smell the phoods

[cyan ravine]

Those exist

[obsidian wigeon]

[runic cedar]

Not any good ones tho

[cyan ravine]

You can smell the poop in 4k as you crawl through it in cod multiplayer

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[potent portal]

They have gunpowder scented ones

[runic cedar]

I want to smell the pooo from my nintendogs, otherwise my immersion is ruined

[obsidian wigeon]

gunpowder

perfect for cod

[runic cedar]

Nah

[cyan ravine]

The poop of your enemies

[runic cedar]

Unwashed balls because you can smell the players right through the game

And we all know what cod playerd smell like

[potent portal]

Oh yeah give me that anime convention scent

[runic cedar]

I have not been to one yet

[obsidian wigeon]

probably hell on earth

[potent portal]

Pray that you go to one where people know of the existence of deodorant

Them fur suits get sweaty

[runic cedar]

I have been to a traditional festival in my city of origin where the president of osaka comes over and show appreciation for the collaborationg with our city, but my god the weebs that end up going there with their badly made costumes walking around ruining the whole festival

Truly a sight and a smell to behold

Reason why Im scared to ever go to a convention

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't wanna get a fursuit myself

it's expensive

plus you sweat like hell in one

[runic cedar]

I saw those leather dogmask ppl

They were something, I can tell you that much

On a leash

😭

They were holding eachothers leashes eventho they are all in those leather dog fits

Wheres the owner

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

[runic cedar]

Or who is the owner I guess

It was confusing but more power to them I guess, as long as they dont go anywhere near children in those latex outfits

(Cuz its very tight so you see a little more than needed)

Thats another level of suit, fursuits are (atleast supposed to be) child friendly

So I dont mind them

Also probably really cozy during winter

How did I end up writing a novel about my most traumatic experience

:PepeHands:

[dusky hearth]

you gotta get those like air force watercooled suits

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[potent portal]

Our nitro boost level went down so you need to find another server with things

Also fun fact, people have died in the Barney suit because the fan broke and the zipper got stuck... twice

The first time the actor only suffered from some smoke inhalation

[obsidian wigeon]

wow

[potent portal]

We've come a long way in suit design since then thankfully

[obsidian wigeon]

it better be

[dusky hearth]

barney is a murderer

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-five-nights-at-freddy's-dance-freddy-fazbear-meme-gif-387447488759269797

[ocean ledge]

Hey all, I am looking to get some advice on a new pc build. If you are willing to answer some questions, please send me a DM and we can chat there to avoid spamming this channel. Appreciate any help I can get on this!

[stoic island]

Hey, we prefer using this chat for questions and advice over DMs when possible

[potent portal]

There's several good reasons for that, like more people looking at a problem means it's more likely to get solved, and the conversation will be here for later if someone has a similar problem.

[frail valve]

Sorry zenful didn't see you still typing. I'll ask later

[ocean ledge]

Sure, no problem. I am looking to build a new PC, and wanted to make sure I am getting what I want before I order all the parts. If links are able to be posted I will post my partpicker list. If not I can copy paste what I’m looking at into the chat directly. If there is anything that can be swapped out or optimized to get the most out of the build I would love to hear some advice. The majority of my pc use is gaming (Mainly MMO’s). I am looking to spend around $1500-$2000. I already have keyboard, mouse, and monitors. My main objective is to build something that will last a few years without needing any upgrades and play on high graphics settings with 120+ fps. I also don’t care to have a lot of RGB if that makes any difference. I would rather get more power out of the system than make it look flashy. Let me know if you need anymore information.

No problem, Wanderer. Thank you

[frail valve]

Hmm, I'm sure we got people who can use pcpartpicker to find you something. Question though, given you use dollars, can we assume you're american?

The PC market varies wildly from country to country

[ocean ledge]

Yeah I live in the US. I apologize for not specifying that in the previous message

[stoic island]

You can send the pcpp list here, what monitor do you currently have?

[ocean ledge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6CpwMV

My monitor is - AOC Q27G3XMN 27" Mini LED

[stoic island]

What specific games are you planning to play?

There's a good amount I'd change with the list, do you have any of it bought already or any special reason for choosing anything on the list?

[ocean ledge]

Will plan to play games like World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XIV, Warzone, or Valorant

[frail valve]

Yep. Warzone. There's the thing that'll need a lot of power

[stoic island]

Also, do you live near a microcenter?

[ocean ledge]

I haven’t bought anything yet. No specific reason to picking anything

I found a rough list online and changed a couple things, but that was it

[ocean ledge]

I live about 3-4 hours from a micro center I believe, but I don’t get up that way very often

If the pricing is significantly less, I would consider making a trip. If not I am okay with paying a little more to order online

[stoic island]

It's probably not worth it then, microcenter has great bundle deals but prob not worth a long drive

[potent portal]

Most of the games in that list are CPU heavy

Warzone is a full system burner

[stoic island]

I'm wondering if 9700x is worth using now, not sure if the recent agesa update helped much

just remember reading the news but haven't seen numbers

[ocean ledge]

I would rarely be playing Warzone. I will most likely give the new one a try when it releases, but don’t plan to play it often. I mainly play MMO’s or Riot games for the most part

[potent portal]

No

[stoic island]

only gains for 9900x and 9950x then?

[potent portal]

It's still zen 5%

[stoic island]

ah fun

[potent portal]

Yep the multi CCD got the most of it

[stoic island]

it's still annoying how 7800x3d stock just kinda disappeared

[frail valve]

7800x3d still in short supply

[stoic island]

7600x3d is nice when near microcenter

was thinking 9700x as substitude if the recent updates helped but doesn't seem like it

[frail valve]

Hard to shill micro center when they don't live near one

[potent portal]

9800X3D supposedly comes out at the end of this month or early next month

[stoic island]

any official news or events?

@ocean ledge here's a start to look at a revised list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xjMkkJ

if 9800x3d is actually coming within a month, it's probably a good idea to wait for that and get that

It can be made cheaper in many places, more ram and more storage are just nice to have and not necessary

[crimson zinc]

Could I request a pro gamer to make me a list for $1.5k max, including a monitor, with the cost of a $100 case I have picked out included?

(I will probably only play in 1080p or maybe 1440p)

[frail valve]

Can't make promises. Can we get more specifics though? What games? Any video edittinf or professional workloads? Care about dlss?

[mossy venture]

Amd side
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nv96vj

[crimson zinc]

Gaming
That’s it

Just a wide variety of games

[frail valve]

And I assume you live in the US hives you're talking in dollars?

[crimson zinc]

Nothing like cyberpunk

And yes

I normally do the lists for other people, but I wanna see what others would come up with for me this time

[frail valve]

Live near a micro center? Only asking because they have good CPU-Motherboard combo deals

[crimson zinc]

3 hours away
So unfortunately no

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MHms6D

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d

[potent portal]

Nothing official but tons of different leaks like shipping invoices to retailers, and reliable leakers agree with this timeline

(MLID says no it's not but he's not exactly reliable)

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-vg27aqa1a-27-wqhd-170-hz-va-black/p/N82E16824281243?Item=N82E16824281243&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-281-243-_-10092024

[potent portal]

Oh and don't bother waiting for next gen Intel, it's more power efficient but similar gaming performance to 14 series, while also being worse in multi core, according to Intel's own internal slides that were leaked.

[frail valve]

Looking to make an xp system because windows 11 doesn't want to play nice with some of the older games I have on CDs. I've been able to get my hands on a 3570k in an Asus p8z77-v lk and a 3770 in an asus p8z77-v. I've already settled on getting the non lk model, but which CPU should I go for? Do o take the overclockable 3570k out of the other machine or just not bother and keep the 3770?

[potent portal]

Any game that's made for the XP era or earlier won't need you to overclock

[stoic island]

alright lets hope then

[frail valve]

Unrelated question, in the jump from a 5600 non x to a 5700x3d worth $180?

[potent portal]

It depends on what you're playing and what settings

imo no unless you play something that REALLY likes the vcache

You'd be better off saving that for a platform upgrade

[frail valve]

Unfortunately the main game I need an upgrade for is warzone, but given I have a 3060 and a 5600, both need to be upgraded to get me out of that "low settings at 1080p for 144 fps" zone

[ocean ledge]

I appreciate you sending me this list. I would be okay with moving down to 2TB SSD, but besides that it looks great
@mossy venture Thank you for the AMD list as well
should I be worried about using a 13th gen Intel processor with the issues they were having or did the update take care of that?
also would be curious if either of these lists would change if I were trying to optimize MMO's specifically and not worry about Warzone?
would the 9800x3d be similar in price to the current processor you have chosen? should I worry about availability on release?

[mossy venture]

As long as you use newer bios you're fine, am5 just has an upgrade path

And is easier to cool

[stoic island]

as far as we know, it has been dealt with
https://community.intel.com/t5/Blogs/Tech-Innovation/Client/Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Desktop-Instability-Root-Cause/post/1633239

[stoic island]

If you don't care about warzone at all, you can spend less on the GPU, go down from the xtx to like a GRE and either just save the money or use it for a better CPU.

9800x3d should be ~$450 or a little higher, it'll be $100-150 more expensive than what we sent so far

Availability will be unknown until it gets here, we don't have insider info or the ability to predict the supply and demand

[ocean ledge]

If I were to do this what would you recommend if I stuck with Intel?
What exactly am I gaining/losing with swapping to better GPU instead of better CPU?
I would consider waiting for the 9800x3d. If I did go with that, would I use the same build that you posted originally and just swap in the 9800x3d?
Would it be beneficial to wait until Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals or does that not usually change much PC part wise?
Sorry I'm asking so many questions at once. I don't want to forget to ask later

[stoic island]

Either way, waiting for 9800x3d would be a good idea, the current lists provided are made for current conditions, things will probably change when 9800x3d drops. It's always good to wait for a sale, but don't expect much from black friday sales, they will be nice but expect something like 10% off on average.

[ocean ledge]

Ok I appreciate the information.
I will consider waiting until 9800x3d releases later this month and check back then
Would you be able to send me a list with a better CPU and downgraded GPU so I have a choice between the two when I make a decision ("don't care about Warzone version" compared to the one you sent previously "care about Warzone version")
If not, no worries. You guys have already helped me a ton

[stoic island]

On the Intel side, I wouldn't really get a 13900k/14900k, on the AMD side, 7800x3d would be nice but currently it's all out of stock, it should be ~$450 but the current cheapest in stock 7800x3d is $600, either way not ideal at the moment

So at the moment, just take out the 7900xtx and put in a 7900 GRE and just save the money

[ocean ledge]

ok sounds good, thanks again!
I will keep an eye out for a 7800x3d while waiting for more information on the 9800x3d

[pale star]

My husband is trying to figure out what is wrong with the pc we just built yesterday. We did a post test (i think is what it's called), before putting everything in the case. All was good. Then once in the case it won't even turn on. We did the paper clip test and the psu is working. Would anyone with experien ce be willing to help us back track or what ever we need to do?

[subtle halo]

U install the standoff?

One that makes mobo elevated abit on the case so it wont touch

Maybe something shorting it

On the case

[pale star]

He said he got all the standoff in and isn't touching the case.

[pseudo pollen]

see if psu is off, something might be shorted or backwards, check all power connections

[dusky hearth]

It does sound like some sort of short, assuming that there are no signs of life at all
make sure if you have a seperate io shield that none of the spring things went into any of the ports, and make sure that nothing is plugged in wrong

Try turning on the pc with nothing plugged into the MOBO asides from the PSU cables, and see if the debug LEDs light up

Also yeah make sure PSU switch is on, sometimes people forget, even experienced technicians

[mystic needle]

found this description on a used gaming pc from ebay : amd 5900x/2080 ti/ G skill 32gb ddr4 / 1TB samsung SSD /1200W

at 900 dollars is this worth it used?

[mossy venture]

Do you just use it for gaming, or workstation use too?

[mystic needle]

i want to find one for my cousin he mainly would be playing games like rocket league and cod

he just wants to game

[mossy venture]

Any chance you'd build it?

It's not a bad price but I think you could do better

[mystic needle]

yeah id probably build one for him

[mossy venture]

This cpu is off aliexpress, but its widely recommended if you're comfortable with ordering off of it
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HjLZn6

Gpu id buy used with the rest of budget, and its about 15-20% better than the 5900x in games

Otherwise id probably go for that used build

[mystic needle]

ohhh a none gpu build?

[mossy venture]

You'd buy a used gpu

[mystic needle]

ohhh kk

makes sense

[mossy venture]

Something like a 6700xt, 3070, 3060 ti, etc

2080 ti does fit the bill

You could also go the complete opposite direction

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156164986742

And add more storage

$550 after 8% off at checkout

[mossy venture]

And sorry last link, a gpu option for this build
https://www.ebay.com/itm/387296500969

[mystic needle]

yikes how do i fix that

found this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/156444361227?_skw=2080

this also caught my eye

https://www.ebay.com/itm/375702403663?_skw=2080

no rgb but i dont think my cousin would care

[mystic needle]

i didnt know they refurbished stuff

[mossy venture]

That's pretty good

I think you could get a 6700xt around the same price, unless you want nvidia only

2080 ti has some downsides over the 3060 ti/3070, but the extra vram is a big plus

r/hardwareswap is also pretty good

[mystic needle]

yeah ive been seeing that

would it be better, in your opinion, to just get a 6700xt?

[mossy venture]

Can also do this, to have more to spend on gpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9GNMPF

[mossy venture]

Yes

1gb more vram isn't a huge deal, about 5% worse perf but lower power draw, and honestly just a more reliable card imo

[mystic needle]

looking epic B-)

[mystic needle]

i see i see

would newegg be a good place to look?

wait nvm you meant used

this one looks nice what do you think?https://www.ebay.com/itm/405275583850?_skw=6700

[crimson zinc]

What’s it like with the 20% coupon?

[mossy venture]

That's pretty good

[crimson zinc]

SSLCOZYSALE

[mossy venture]

$223 after shipping

[crimson zinc]

For a 6700XT?

I paid $300 for mine used when I had a pc

223 is banger

[mystic needle]

nicee ill let him know to buy it asap

Should I use the second list you made or the first?

[mossy venture]

First one has much better upgradability

But you have to order the cpu off aliexpress

Second one is cheaper, maybe around 5% worse cpu wise

[mystic needle]

we got the wukong cpu before gta 6

do you have a link you could give me? I can't find one for 130

nononoononono please

[pseudo pollen]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0sfSkg

[mossy venture]

It's 133 but
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006123429937.html

Having a good psu like the 750w in there and being on am5 sets your cousin up for a 9800x3d and a great gpu upgrade down the line

[mystic needle]

thank u, I was seeing a ton of options but they looked a lil more strange

[mystic needle]

awesome! is there anything else I should think about?

[mossy venture]

It could be a bit nicer if you wanted to spend a tiny bit more
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DLZMPF

Didn't realize that mobo was on sale

[mystic needle]

that's sum good aim

thanks for the list! thanks for taking time out of your day to help me out, I really appreciate it🙏

[flint sapphire]

Hey, I like your wood @cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

🪵

It's a little stiff

[flint sapphire]

Might wanna rub some oil on it to preserve the finish

[mystic needle]

Jarvis, clip that.

[deft raven]

hey guys , at the moment I am willing to buy a gaming laptop , any suggestions !

[serene onyx]

Ok guys last check before I buy the parts

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27jBQP

What do yall think?

https://a.co/d/aJS8ISa

Case im purchasing cause it wasn’t showing up on pc part picker

[mossy venture]

I'd change it around a bit

[serene onyx]

Constructive criticism welcomed

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L7N8h3

5600x is a pretty big step up over the 5500

Around 20% iirc

Also one sec I'm checking one other thing

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4727182&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-Combo.4727182-_-10102024

Or 5700x comes with free 32gb ram from newegg, I'm building a combo with it rn for one last option

So 5700x, b550m pro vdh wifi, and teamgroup g50 1tb comes to $296 with newegg combo up savings event, and then a free 32gb ram with it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XhHPbL

[serene onyx]

Thanks!

[serene onyx]

Do I have choose it?

Or do they select it for me

I managed to get it lower

Without the savings event

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cz3LWt

But the difference is I don’t get the 5700X

[dusky hearth]

you made a list worse than the first list you sent

[serene onyx]

😞

I’m trying to stay within budget

[dusky hearth]

what is your budget

[serene onyx]

550

To 600

[dusky hearth]

do you already have a case

[serene onyx]

Yes

It’s part of the budget

It’s 80

[dusky hearth]

bacca's list is considerably better, it has everything but a case, though technically if you don't mind, you could always use the pc on the mobo box until you can get a case

[serene onyx]

True

But I don’t think my 12 yr old cousin would approve

😅

[dusky hearth]

this is your pc? or your cousin's?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/smnPbL

Ideally id use the b550m pro vdh wifi tho

[nova hound]

i need some help guys

[mossy venture]

Better mobo and you gaurantee it works without a bios update

[nova hound]

could i call anyone of you in like 20-30 mins?

please

[mossy venture]

What do you need help with?

[serene onyx]

Cousins

[serene onyx]

I’m getting it

[nova hound]

my fans

please can someone come vc?

[little osprey]

what's wrong with your fans

[serene onyx]

@mossy venture on that free 32 gb ram kit how does it work? Do they ship it to me with everything else and they choose or?

[mossy venture]

Oof it looks like the free ram deal mightve ended

[serene onyx]

Dang alright

[scenic slate]

Well I guess I can’t post pictures so I’ll get the details on what I want to make sure is compatible together

ASUS ROG Strix Z790-A Gaming WiFi II (WiFI 7) LGA 1700(Intel 14th,13th & 12th Gen) ATX gaming motherboard(16 + 1+2 power stages, DDR5, 5X M.2 slots,

This is the motherboard

Intel Core i7-14700K - Core i7 14th Gen 20-Core (8P+12E) LGA 1700 125W Intel UHD Graphics 770 Processor - Boxed - BX8071514700K

This is the cpu want to make sure they are completely compatible before I order

[vernal crow]

Hi, I would like feedback for upgrading my pc
my current use case is mostly for gaming (casual, not fps demanding) and AI training/generation (need 64 gb ram)
I live in singapore so the price parts would be around 1.2x of what's in this list
my budget would be under $2k since I already own some parts
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jbLtXk

[potent portal]

They are compatible but you may need to update the BIOS using flashback

[scenic slate]

Copy that I just want to make sure those two are compatible everything else is compatible with my build list

[cyan ravine]

👀

Used 3090/TI

Won't require anything else

As long as you don't have like several hundred rgb lights lol

[vernal crow]

are you suggesting I should browse for used 3090Ti?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

A low range 4090 could technically work, but it's a lot more for not a lot better AI gen

Depends on how quickly you could make the money back but 3090 cards are pretty go to for home ai work

[potent portal]

A 4090 might be hard to come by in Singapore, it would probably be a 4090D instead

[cyan ravine]

Nah he can

[potent portal]

The trick is finding it

[cyan ravine]

I know a couple people there now with one

[vernal crow]

okay

no rush I'll keep an eye for it

[cyan ravine]

If you had an sli or nvlink board I'd say 2 3090's and a psu change

But this wasn't in older plans from memory lol

Have to go to Z690 for that one which is kinda meh

So yeah just one used 3090/Ti

Rest looks fine, not appearing meaningful to otherwise change

[vernal crow]

👍

thank you

[cyan ravine]

Np

[vernal crow]

found a used 4090 for 1.2k but

RFS : Intermittent Issues with GPU. Able to get into Windows home screen, normal usage without gaming. Shows up normally in task manager ,can get into bios.
Problem : Computer shuts down when opening games, have to restart afterwards. Gave up and changed GPU.

I see more 3090 listing than 3090Ti, and it seems both have 24GB VRAM, are there any big difference between the two? @cyan ravine

I see this number but it doesn't seem like a big difference Memory speed: 21Gbps vs 19.5Gbps

[vernal crow]

I guess I'll go ahead with the rest of the parts and snatch a used 3090ti / 4090 when it comes

[cyan ravine]

Ti is slightly faster vram, but 4090 vs. 3090/Ti in Ai performance isn't that massive of a gap considering a 4090 is like, 1400 used vs 650-700 for a used 3090/Ti

[vernal crow]

ah right the price range as well

[cyan ravine]

Ti in your case is meaningful

Ye

But ye either of the two 30 series ones imo

Unless you really need like all the performance you can get

In which case a basic reference tier 4090

[runic cedar]

Uhm?

What the sigma?

Isnt this way better than the ryzen 5 5600?

[analog hearth]

I mean yeah

[runic cedar]

I mean no*

[analog hearth]

ur mom

[runic cedar]

I just checked

[analog hearth]

huh

[runic cedar]

Not too much

I thought thats a newer gen ryzen 7

[analog hearth]

lmao no 💀

Still on the best platform though

[runic cedar]

I thought around same time as the ryzen 5

5600*

[analog hearth]

huh?

[analog hearth]

man I just took out my airpods to put on my desktop headphones to listen to that only to hear nothing at all

nice job man

[analog hearth]

tell your cat I said hi

also yeah bigger number releases first

tradition

sells better

build hype. sell the more expensive one first because people are impatient and don't want the crappy one first

[runic cedar]

? Oh I didnt know that was a trend they followed

[analog hearth]

yep

[runic cedar]

Good to know

Is a ryzen x3d processor worth the full pc upgrade next year?

[analog hearth]

yes

[runic cedar]

Or is the architecture going to evolve a lot within the next months

I dont want to jump on new tech if the future looks 2x as good as current

[analog hearth]

"I know AMD hasn't told us anything about next year's CPUs but..." honestly shut up

"will the X3D be worth it?" yes always. it's just better

[runic cedar]

Brother calm down

I was asking about if the architecture they are using for x3d has a lot of potential still

Thats a fact you could know

[analog hearth]

yeah

[runic cedar]

Possibly

Exactly then dont tell someone to shut up, Im not asking for an opinion

[analog hearth]

ur mom

[runic cedar]

But thx for the help

[analog hearth]

👍

[ornate condor]

I have weird situation with ram kit got g.skill flare x5 32gb ram kit but it giving blue screen at expo but it working alright when I manually set voltage to 1.35V . But 1.2v written on ram and expo giving 1.2v

Idk if I should return this ram or it's alright if I set 1.35v manually and leave it alone

[potent portal]

What frequency/cas is the expo?

[ornate condor]

6000MHZ Cl36

[potent portal]

Hmm yeah that's usually 1.35v

Weird that it's only doing 1.2v, but if it's working at 1.35v then I see little reason to complain

A minor annoyance at most imo

[ornate condor]

ram sticker says 1.2v and expo also giving 1.2v but it's blue screen right away

When I set 1.35v stress tested it for 10 minutes and it works

[proper night]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ThelVadam4321/saved/Y387CJ

I'm drafting a build for my sister. She doesn't play many if any current gen games so I predict this will more than suit her needs. The RX580 and the EVGA PSU are parts I have in storage from old builds of my own. Any feedback or helpful suggestions are appreciated.

I'm particularly concerned over whether the PSU selected has enough of an overhead buffer. Let me know if you think I need to go up a little bit more.

[mossy venture]

that psu is known for going boom

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4727182&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-Combo.4727182-_-10112024

I'd get that, and add a g50 with the combo savings deal as well. Should come to $238

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M67cQP

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Wbgrxr/msi-g255f-245-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-g255f

[proper night]

G50?

[mossy venture]

sorry, its a 1tb ssd

[proper night]

I know very little about Intel chips. Is the i5-12400F of similar performance to the Ryzen 5 3600?

[mossy venture]

a good bit better

matches the 5600

[proper night]

That MOBO in the combo doesn’t appear to have WiFi capability unless I’m misreading the page. How much would a decent wireless card eat into the savings?

I usually just rely on Ethernet, but this build needs wireless for the end user’s convenience

[mossy venture]

$20-30

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MMjBD3/intel-ax200-80211abgnacax-m2-e-wi-fi-adapter-ax200ngwgdtk

[proper night]

PC parts picker says that particular wifi card isn't compatible with the board from the combo.

[mossy venture]

ah would need a pcie one then

[proper night]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ThelVadam4321/saved/QRpqbv

[mossy venture]

uhh

$140 psu and that case is awful

m60 is a couple dollars more and a good bit better

the cpu mobo and 32gb ram are a combo on newegg

$196 for the three of them

$238 if you add a 1tb g50 to it

[mossy venture]

.

[proper night]

What would you suggest for PSU and case then. I wanted to go with a smaller form factor since I was using a Micro-ATX board anyway.

[mossy venture]

.

an atx case can fit an matx board fine, but id do m60, sama q5, or im01 for an matx option

[proper night]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ThelVadam4321/saved/QRpqbv

Went with the 2TB version of the G50.

[mossy venture]

can you not do the bundle from newegg?

[proper night]

I can through Newegg, but PC Parts Picker doesn't reflect that.

If there is a way to get the website to reflect the bundle price, I don't know.

[mossy venture]

i made a list above and edited the pricing of the parts in the bundle

[proper night]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ThelVadam4321/saved/QRpqbv

This is what I have taking the bundle into account

Figured out how to adjust the prices. Sorry, it's been a while since I've done this.

[mossy venture]

no youre good

looks good, id just spend the extra for the g255f for the high refresh rate monitor

[proper night]

Not a bad price dip I must say. Thanks for the help.

I'll have to mull over the monitor. $15 more for 180 hrz is very attractive, but it would also require getting speakers or headphones. That being said, I do actually have a spare HyperX headset lying around somewhere so maybe I'll just throw those in too.

[mossy venture]

if not $10 amazon basics speakers are fine

might be $15

[proper night]

Fair enough. You've been a great help. Thank you.

[mossy venture]

Np

[proper night]

And sorry if I was a little annoying to work with.

[mossy venture]

you werent dude, nw

anyone whos willing to listen im happy to help

[runic cedar]

So I need some help with my case

I have a controller for the ARGB and fans

What is this

I know how/where to connect the fans but what about the argb? Why is there 2 different connections from the controller to the mobo?

[runic cedar]

Is the lower one for adding one additional argb component?

[runic cedar]

And what gets connected here?

[ornate condor]

Switch

if you have one

I mean if your case have one

[runic cedar]

So the reset, right?

Can I pull it apart from the others so that the other cables reach my front panel connector on my mobo?

I plug in the reset sw right? And do I plug it in facing up or facing down?

And can I use the sata daisy chain for the hub as well as my drives?

Cuz I cant find my second sata cable rn

[potent portal]

Orientation doesn't matter and daisy chains are fine for that

[green laurel]

May be a dumb question but can I use this cables for gpu? I assume yes considering it is all the cables I have left in box and matches. I just googled and a fee said otherwise.. please help

[potent portal]

What model GPU

That is for the GPU but if the model is more than a 250W TDP then you'll want 2 separate cables

They have been known to melt past that with a single daisy chained cable

[proper night]

Like a fool I waited a tad too long it seems. The combo seems to have expired. I didn't recall seeing an expiration date on the page so I didn't realize it'd be quite so fleeting.

I’m debating waiting until Black Friday/Cyber Monday to order everything and make the build as a Christmas present

[runic cedar]

I finished it yesterday

@cyan ravine this is what I was building

[cyan ravine]

IT'S SO BRIGHT

[runic cedar]

Exactly

Usually I dont bother with RGB but my aio will be used in my future upgrade as well so as long as it lasts i dont care if i have to spend a little more for looks

Also is nice to have built an argb build atleast once

Next I buy 2 RGB strips for the 2 RGB header on my mobo

[cyan ravine]

I'm looking at myself from 4 years ago

[runic cedar]

Flashbang pc build

[cyan ravine]

I await the future

Everyone grows out of rgb lol

[runic cedar]

Nah, honestly I like the looks but I never needed it

I just built it cuz my friends who dont know anything about specs will look at it and be impressed

And cuz I had the money for it

[cyan ravine]

RGB sells PC's

You right

I'm not against your build or anything btw, just having fun

I've seen too many PC's now to feel anything

[runic cedar]

Yes

RGB is pretty useless except for when you use it as decoration

Cuz when you game you dont look at the pc anyways

[cyan ravine]

Or in my case

I got so deep into it I literally had a floodlight in my right eye while I gamed

[mossy venture]

Rgb=more fps

[cyan ravine]

💀

[mossy venture]

Everyone knows that smh

[runic cedar]

And some people really think rgb means better performance

Like my gf

[runic cedar]

Me rn fr

[runic cedar]

But she also cant tell the difference between a pc lag and a network lag

:F_:

Cool

[sand osprey]

Do yall know how to fix this?

I got my second ultra wide monitor and it won't let me set it to the right aspect ratio.

The monitor is the exact same size as the one beneath it, 3440x1440, but the one on top won't let me adjust the ratio any larger than 1920x1080.

I have a genforce 3060 which says it can suport 4 monitors, or 2 8k monitors, right now I only have 2 monitors connected.

[stoic island]

First, what cable and monitor are you using? It could be a bandwidth issue.
Second, if you check the manufacturer's website for the monitor, do they provide any separate drivers for it?
Third, through nvcp or the Nvidia app, can you create a custom resolution and set it to 3440x1440 manually?

[sand osprey]

The one that works is using a dp to hdmi cable
The other one is using a dp to hdmi adapter and and hdmi cable

I will check the website for the drivers

When I tried to use the nvidia app custom resolution set to 3440x1440 it says that the monitor does not suport the resolution, and when I tell it to us it anyway, it give me a super narrow strip of display that is blurry.

[stoic island]

What's the model of the monitor and version of the HDMI cables along with what the adapter is rated for?

[sand osprey]

Monitor: Deco Gear DGVIEW220
The HDMI cable is made by Ultra Pro and says optimized for 4k, but does not say a version.
The adapter is made by onn, and does not give a rating.

[sand osprey]

It was the adapter, switch monitor 2 and 3 because 3 is 1080p anyway.

[sand osprey]

looks liken i was worng, it made the custum screen resultion work, but it is blury

[crimson glade]

does anyone have a good recommendation for a mini itx build for under $600?

[potent portal]

Would that be for gaming or something else?

USD?

[vernal night]

I just built my pc last night and when I connect the monitor it says no signal what do I do lil

Lol

[flint sapphire]

Make sure your monitor is on the correct input check your mobo for any led’s that might indicate a problem

[vernal night]

Wym by input

And no leds are indicating anything bad so idk

[flint sapphire]

Your monitor probably has a display port and hdmi input, you should be able to switch between them using the monitors menu

[vernal night]

How do I see that

The menu

[flint sapphire]

There’s probably physical buttons or a nipple/joystick on the monitor on the bottom right, middle or behind the monitor on the right just press one of em

[vernal night]

Ye there is but do I need to plug it into my pc to work

[flint sapphire]

No

Just needs to be on

[vernal night]

They don't work rn I remember using them in the past tho

[flint sapphire]

Just plug it into your pc and try turning on

[vernal night]

I did yea

[tardy ravine]

Hi
Who is own this chair leather version ?
https://www.andaseat.com/products/andaseat-kaiser-3-series-premium-gaming-chair?variant=40634816331835

[vernal crow]

Not sure if this is the correct channel
I found Ryzen 7 7800x3d with the following price

• Bulk Packaging $565
• Retail Box Packaging $625

Does anyone know if it's a big risk to get a bulk packaging for cheaper price

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt pay that much either way

9800x3d is right around the corner

If anything buy a 7500f or 7600 and then drop a 9800x3d in in a month, if you're impatient imo

[vernal crow]

Ah got it, no rush for me so I'll wait

somehow 7800x3d is out of stock in most stores here, I guess i'll wait

[potent portal]

It's out of stock almost everywhere

Microcenter might still have some, idk

Yeah they do, for $450, but in stores only

https://www.microcenter.com/product/674503/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-raphael-am5-42ghz-8-core-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included

[subtle halo]

Day 2 of scaring pc builders

[analog hearth]

Happens to me all the time

[upper rock]

hey folks

could anyone suggest a good/durable monitor, these are the items that are listed based on priority.
it should work for mac and windows laptop as well flawlessly

• durability
• good to my eyes. i maintain a distance of 2 feet
• type c
• 24 or 27inch
• pivot /tilt / height adjustment
  work type: programming

budget: 275$

[formal girder]

pretty much a portable monitor is gonna be your choice from the requirements

[jagged ember]

Durable as in

You can whack it with a shovel?

[formal girder]

nah durable enough to take a punch or two or more, its programming

[dusky hearth]

dont buy gaming chairs

also that isnt leather

that's artificial leather

aka made of plastic

[potent portal]

Pleather if you will

Which is occasionally superior to real leather because it cracks and fades less but it can be much worse, which tends to be the case on cheap (aka "gaming") chairs

[dusky hearth]

https://www.btod.com/eur-vera

for ~ the same price

[tardy ravine]

I don't like the mesh chair
So that is why am not go Herman miller

[cyan ravine]

Have you sat in the chair you are looking at

[dusky hearth]

seat padding is fabric and foam

only the back is mesh

[serene onyx]

Hey guys, I was wondering on which Gpu to purchase

Rx 6750 XT or the 7600 XT

[crimson zinc]

Budget?

[serene onyx]

350$

I was leaning more towards the 6750 XT

[crimson zinc]

@serene onyx are you okay with a used gpu?

[serene onyx]

Oof

Idk

Never bought used

Iffy about it

[crimson zinc]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256676623233?

@serene onyx used is entirely dependent on the seller.

[serene onyx]

Yeah true

[crimson zinc]

This seller has 900 ratings, so it’s a trusted seller.

[mossy venture]

Out of those 100% 6750

6800 should be about that price too

https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-rx-68xlaqfd9/p/27N-0002-00117T?Item=27N-0002-00117T&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-27N-0002-00117T-_-10142024

[pseudo pollen]

wouldn't recommend these OEM cards since they have no native software control, so they tend to not turn on their fans, or crash, ect

my brother got a dell 3080 and it sucked so badly, even with manual fan control

[crimson zinc]

That’s true

I forgot

@serene onyx ignore my advice.

[pseudo pollen]

Damn, you can get a 3080ti for $470. Making me wish I didn't buy my 3070 2 years ago

[marsh kiln]

Klipsch a decent brand?

[rough loom]

yes

[marsh kiln]

Nvm lost the bid

[crimson zinc]

Felt this in my soul

[potent portal]

The time you spent with the GPU also has value

[pseudo pollen]

stop being logical, I need to complain somewhere

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/neva-never-marc-homealone-youcantstopme-gif-9816521

[pseudo pollen]

alrighty I'm going to go take some sunset photos, see y'all later

[marsh kiln]

It was a sw450 10 inch sub went for 66 dollars plus a 10% buyers few

[pseudo pollen]

klipsch is a pretty crap brand in comparison to other brands iirc

best "budget" subwoofer is speedwoofer 10e or something used like an svs sb2000

[marsh kiln]

Yea just figured I'd bid and see if I could get it

[pseudo pollen]

fair enough, $80-ish isn't bad for a 10" sub

[marsh kiln]

Don't want to pay almost new ish price

More than I wanted to spend anyways

[pseudo pollen]

not sure what you're talking about when you say almost new

[marsh kiln]

Still

More than I want to pay

[pseudo pollen]

alr, cya

[marsh kiln]

just the prices i seen when i clicked shopping on google showed me around 120 to 90

[strong raft]

Don't go by google ads/sponsored crap

[marsh kiln]

It was ebay

People said meh brand anyways

[rough loom]

you get what you pay for when it comes to audio

a decent sub is going to be 500 to 2 grand depending on what you need it to do

one Im looking at is 500 for a dual sided 6 inch with downfire port

and thats just for a small 10 foot room

[dusky hearth]

used audio equipment ususally are very reasonably priced though

[rough loom]

It could also be midly damaged and you wouldnt know

[dusky hearth]

many audiophiles have the money to burn on brand new "cutting edge" speakers or are spending $$$ on vintage stuff

[crimson zinc]

not me needing 8 new Bose speakers for my car because they blew because of the previous owners