#building-and-recc-chat

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cyan ravine
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If you already did this and you're happy with the chair you picked, go for that chair by all means

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  1. Keyboard is a pass. Barely any major brand gaming keyboards are worth buying at all. People don't go to brands like Corsair or MSI for good keyboards. This one I suggested came from a number of keyboard enthusiasts who build them for a living. Bridge75 and Rainy75. Both way better.
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  1. The monitor is probably the most divisive part if I'm honest. This pc is way overspec for the monitor and committing to this screen, you'd have the same fps results just about with a $900 pc vs the $1500 odd one I put there. Both would show 165hz 1080p. So it's a complete bottleneck for the pc. The OLED I put is an endgame choice. Way way better. Colour, response and latency performance, the monitor is equivalent to several gpu upgrades on it's own. OLED is 1000% worth it if you can afford it
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Welcome to ask if you have more questions but I was very specific in the choices for the budget, unless there's some specific need I'm missing here I really wouldn't change anything

teal dome
crimson zinc
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@cyan ravine Felix can you make me a gamerboi 7900gre build

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Green as much as possible

mossy venture
crimson zinc
mossy venture
little osprey
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Okay I see now thank you :), also what the OC mean on the gpu you put in the list?

obsidian wigeon
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Very mild overclock

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Don't mind it, because it has no impact on performance

cyan ravine
little osprey
mossy venture
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13600k was on sale for $170 but went oos

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7600 is a much better choice unless it went on a similar sale

cyan ravine
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I trust Bacca's suggestions so if you want all black this is an option^

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New psu on the market?

mossy venture
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Atx 3.0 mwe gold from what I can tell

cyan ravine
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Interesting

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Might look into it when I next remember

mossy venture
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Tbf going with a psu we know more about for $5 more isn't a bad idea

cyan ravine
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Well c850 is up there

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Or really c750 would be fine too

mossy venture
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I like adding atx 3.0/12 vpwhr in just for reusability

cyan ravine
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Up to u

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We're picking from the good

plucky timber
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Oh damn that's a really good list

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Assuming the use case is just gaming judging by the cpu

stoic island
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M482 seems new, $100 for 2tb of that is great

mossy venture
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It's a cheaper version of the og m482 but I haven't researched it yet

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G50 at $106 is a good ssd

little osprey
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Also for the cpu cooler, I don’t know if you would know the answer to this or not, pcpartpicker says it doesn’t know if the cpu cooler has enough clearance for the ram?

cyan ravine
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I can tell you it does

little osprey
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Okay thank you 😁

cyan ravine
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You can move the fan to the other side so it's completely clear

little osprey
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Oh okay I didn’t know that, I thought it had to be in a certain way

cyan ravine
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It's ok lad, there is a whole encyclopaedia to learn

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Easier to google or ask, I know

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Lol

little osprey
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Yeah I hate asking so many questions but that’s how you gotta learn I guess 😅

cyan ravine
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We have a build video in the pins

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It'll teach you what to do

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Very long but chaptered, so you don't need to watch all of it, just what you need

little osprey
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Is it the one by Linus?

cyan ravine
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Ye that's the one

little osprey
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Okay I’ll save that in my notes so I can find it when I need to

stoic island
little osprey
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What model would have been put its place? I’m asking because I’m saving the list for until I come back and I’ll just check to see if everything is still okay to go ahead and buy it..

manic cloak
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Usually the best option.

little osprey
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also sorry I didn’t see your response earlier, there was a lot going on 😅

little osprey
cyan ravine
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Nothing wrong with it

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Just a noisy thing

little osprey
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Like how loud? 😅

manic cloak
cyan ravine
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It's not too bad

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If you wear headphones you won't really notice

manic cloak
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Imagine like a microwave kinda loud?

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It’s not going to be loud, but it’s the same loudness as the mmmmmmmmmm

cyan ravine
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Microwaves are all kinds of loud and quiet

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💀

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Some like a hmmmmmm

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Others BWAHHHHHH

manic cloak
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😭

cyan ravine
manic cloak
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Well try to imagine the mmmmmmmmmm microwaves then

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Not the bwahhhhhcrowaves

little osprey
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😅

cyan ravine
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Picture a man over your shoulder

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A buddhist monk

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"Uohmmmmmmmmm"

manic cloak
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I think a gong is better

cyan ravine
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I ain't heard of a gong graphics card

little osprey
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Okay so pretty loud

cyan ravine
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No

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It's literally like if you had headphones on you'd barely know

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Like, old console kinda whirr, levels

little osprey
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Hmm idk I’ll have to keep doing some research on exactly what I want, luckily I still have to save up while I do so

manic cloak
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A simple fan

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Desk fan

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Idk

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The ones that you turn on to cool yourself down

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It’s not loud but it’s noticeably louder than most

little osprey
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Okay that’s a lot better comparison 😂

cyan ravine
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What about buying a buddhist monk

little osprey
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😂

cyan ravine
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As long as it's the ones that have 1 speed lmao

manic cloak
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The Honeywell fans

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I’ll be home in like 20 minutes

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I’ll record it for you

cyan ravine
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Imagine you've just been picked up at a local crop circle by your local UberFO™️ driver

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But the sedative they used to tranquilise you didn't work so you woke up

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Took a look around

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Sounds like that

cyan ravine
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I just realised this can be both interpreted as more than a funny UFO joke

dusky hearth
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lmao

dusky hearth
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uber getting into the space buisness

or maybe they came from space

manic cloak
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What's the performance difference between 3600x, 5500, and 5600(x)?

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45$ 5500 at Microcenter after coupon deal so..

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Would probably be paired with either a 2080ti, 3060ti, or a 6700/50xt

pseudo pollen
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not sure exact performance difference, but between 5500 and 5600 it's 15-20% iirc. haven't looked at benchmarks in a while tho

fossil cedar
olive cypress
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Why is my PC turning on from sleep mode when i turn on the lights in the room? 😭

analog hearth
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Bruh that's goofy

jagged ember
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LMAO

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Its turning on more than the lights fr

languid nimbus
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Mans got a short kekw

potent portal
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A UPS to clean up the power might be in order

olive cypress
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Yep, i really need an ups. That's for sure. Just have to find a good pure sine one

dusky hearth
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eaton lithium ups frfr

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only a small price of arounf $10k

potent portal
dusky hearth
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Double conversation is also called online right

potent portal
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Correct

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That's the best because it's always pulling power from the battery, therefore it's always delivering clean power

potent portal
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Cheapest non-Chinesium one I could find that I would consider suitable

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It is loud though, it's designed for server rooms

dusky hearth
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main downside of those is that they use a bit more energy due to the conversion though

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but yeah also always clean power.... well, at least as clean as how good the quality of the inverter is

potent portal
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Line interactive is usually plenty since they often have active PFC to correct voltage fluctuations

dusky hearth
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Damn

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Amazon basics even has a ups

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Of course, they are almost certainly just rebranding something

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But damn

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I didn't know UPSs were mainstream enough for Amazon to brand

cyan ravine
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Amazon has everything man

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Where were you the last 5 years

dusky hearth
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💀

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To be fair

cyan ravine
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If they have disney stuff then they have everything, it's an easy rule of thumb

dusky hearth
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My Xbox rechargable battery pack is also Amazon basics lmfao

cyan ravine
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See

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My best fiber cables are amazon brand

dusky hearth
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💀

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My mic cable also happens to be Amazon basics

cyan ravine
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That wasn't even sarcasm 😂

dusky hearth
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Ong

cyan ravine
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I went through so many fiber cables for hdmi

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Active cables are gross I don't recommend

dusky hearth
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Lmao

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I prefer dp anyways

cyan ravine
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They are

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Well, a couple are

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4 are hdmi

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Lol

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Actually amazon doesn't have one thing

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Youtube red

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If they had that they'd truly rule the world

dusky hearth
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Youtube red hasn't existed since like 2015 or whatever

cyan ravine
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Then wtf my youtube ads are ??

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?1?

dusky hearth
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Youtube red was replaced with premium

cyan ravine
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Oh right

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I thought you were gonna say there wasn't any such thing left

dusky hearth
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Lmfao

cyan ravine
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Bro had me dialling up so fast

dusky hearth
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Mr president, they hit the 2nd subscription

cyan ravine
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"SHE'S CRAWLING OUT OF THE YOUTUBE AD!!" ☠️

manic cloak
fossil cedar
cyan ravine
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Ya it tips like 2% in 5500 favour due to ipc, that's all

olive cypress
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Thanks for the ups recommendations, I still don't really get the part with W and VA as in the ups rating. It may be because people online share different opinions and I have no idea what is correct

manic cloak
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Not bad at all for 45$

cyan ravine
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12600K makes better sense if the price difference is that big

potent portal
manic cloak
cyan ravine
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Wtf that's an excellent buy

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I wouldn't think twice

potent portal
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Buy one for me while you're there, I need something cheap for my server

cyan ravine
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Get me one too for my server

manic cloak
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@cyan ravine @potent portal Pay for shipping label, send me your coupon and I’ll do it

mystic needle
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Hi, my sister wants to get a pc for streaming/video editing and has a budget of 1200 dollars with slight leeway. Can anyone help me out with a build? This is excluding peripherals.

manic cloak
mossy venture
lone flame
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i cannot get jar files to work on my pc

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i think the first time i did it i somehow like tried opening it with the wrong thing and now its just broken

potent portal
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Did you set your PATH variable

lone flame
potent portal
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Guess that's a no

lone flame
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also when i try opening one it hits me with this

potent portal
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It tells the terminal to look in the specified folder for your Java install

potent portal
lone flame
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i am stuck on step 2

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i cant find the advanced system setting in my control panel

potent portal
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Windows 11?

lone flame
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10

potent portal
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Another way to that window is to open file explorer and right click your pc, and hit properties

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Then you'll want the advanced tab

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Near the bottom is environment variables

lone flame
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what is the path value

potent portal
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Point it at the folder where you have Java installed (or OpenJDK or whatever you're using)

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Specifically the folder that contains Java.exe

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This way when something tries to call for Java in the terminal you don't need to manually specify where to look

lone flame
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i dont know where java is installed its just in my file explorer somewhere idk

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im sorry i dont understand files at all thats one of my worst things with pc i dont understand like 90% of it lol

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its just in my downloads

potent portal
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If you used the default location when you installed Java then it'll be in your Program Files folder

lone flame
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would it just be this?

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its in my downloads folder idk 💀

potent portal
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Did you run those to install them?

lone flame
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uh

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yes

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i think

potent portal
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Then the installation folder will be under C:\Program Files\

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Which are you trying to use? The regular JDK or OpenJDK

lone flame
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whatever lets me open a jar file for my minecraft shaders lmao

potent portal
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I'd go with OpenJDK personally

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So you'd look in C:\Program Files\OpenJDK\[version]

lone flame
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can i just type that into search this pc

potent portal
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You can type it into file explorer

lone flame
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cause im gonna be honest i have no idea where to look im sorry 💀

potent portal
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The bar at the top of file explorer works just like a web browser, you can just type a new address to go there

lone flame
potent portal
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Do it without the [version] since I only put that because I don't know the version

lone flame
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so C:\Program Files\OpenJDK\

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?

potent portal
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Yes

lone flame
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still no items

potent portal
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Ok I see one issue that stands out for me

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Java 21 is insecure and has been deprecated, so you'd want to use Java 23 instead. Also you got the hotspot version and not the full one.

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It's possible Windows detected the out of date Java version and decided to block it

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Because Java is notoriously insecure

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You'll want to remove older versions before you install, you can find them in your installed programs list

lone flame
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when i say i know like nothing about files or file explorer this is what i mean damn

potent portal
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Right click your start menu icon

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That's the shortcut way 😉

lone flame
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😐

jagged ember
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Revouninstaller might work

potent portal
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Forgive the bluntness, but if you aren't comfortable with even uninstalling a program then I would advise you not to run a server off your home network. It only gets more complex from here, with things like port forwards and NAT to worry about, and opening up your computer to the Internet is risky. Doubly so if you don't understand the risks.

mystic needle
chilly mist
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Is anyone around to help me with some troubleshooting on an issue I’m having in my build nothing major just alot of confusion

cyan ravine
jolly riverBOT
cyan ravine
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Lol

mystic needle
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Currently reading how to ask questions the smart way, you just lead me into a whole side quest😭

analog hearth
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Just don't sound stupid

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Just be smart

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Easy

crimson zinc
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Or prebuilt?

mystic needle
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Heck yeah

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We love buildin’

mystic needle
analog hearth
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yeah like that

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you have to add the three question marks with the space before them at the end of the question

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like this

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How many ram do i have to download on my graphics processing unit to play minecraft ???

crimson zinc
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You also have to spell parts wrong

mystic needle
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Ah i see thank you guys I now should be just a little bit better at the art of asking foolish questions 🧐

mossy venture
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If her video editing is major enough, 12900k bundle instead

lone flame
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omg theres a 7600x3d

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since when

potent portal
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A few months now

lone flame
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damn i never knew

mossy venture
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And yeah 7600x3d is like 3-5% worse than the 7800x3d

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Great cpu, just wish it was available outside of mc

lone flame
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you probably wanted to grab and shake me by the shoulders

potent portal
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More like I wanted to remote into your computer and do it myself lol

lone flame
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no wonder i never heard of it

potent portal
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Yep same deal as the 5600X3D

lone flame
potent portal
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I don't blame you at all, I wouldn't let me either lol

lone flame
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how comforting ill def let you now

unborn mesa
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Has anybody had an issue with windows 11 freezing after unlocking the pc

potent portal
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Actually yes there's a recent Windows update that bricks the OS

unborn mesa
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Its a fresh install, it worked for about 30 mins while i got all my new apps downloaded and restarted it

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Then it just started freezing every single time

potent portal
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Yep sounds like a case of KB5043145

unborn mesa
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There isnt an update for me to reverse from so im sorta stuck on nothing

mystic needle
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Or 7800

runic cedar
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Guys I think I got an even better deal than last time

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187 euros

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This one was 230 euros

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Ofc with psu is a bit better but less of a deal cuz of the ryzen 3 3600

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I think

mossy venture
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If you see the 7800x3d bundle within $50 or so, go for it

runic cedar
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(Also a GTX 1060 added )

mossy venture
raw dove
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yo, back again

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got a little favor to ask

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could yall make a part list for a build in romania? budget of like 4,950 lei

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gaming rig, will need wifi, and budget is only for the pc itself

potent portal
raw dove
haughty void
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does anyone have a list thats $1200 for everything "Minecraft (modded and I REALLY wanna use shaders), Roblox, terraria (modded), Stardew (modded), I’ve fallen outta sims a bit but I wanna keep it in mind, I wanna get into some other games as well "

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is what my cousin says

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they need mouse and keyboard and monitor

cyan ravine
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Good keyboard mouse and monitor on top makes that tough

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They need to go used nvidia if they want something worthwhile

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Probably used 3060ti build with like a ryzen 5500

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Then a $100-$150 monitor, good keeb and mouse

mossy venture
cyan ravine
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1200 would get you a good tower on it's own with a 4070 super, any less and 40 series just plain sucks so used 30/20 series is the play

mossy venture
haughty void
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ill ask

haughty void
mossy venture
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ah

mossy venture
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also ethernet or wifi

haughty void
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wifi and whatever works

cyan ravine
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No wifi but wifi is $20, ax200 kit

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Might even have to be lower end than this

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This fits

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Probably won't do better than this

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Maybe 3070 if you're really lucky and needs to be used

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4060 will perform much worse, so will any ryzen's at this level that aren't either used or off aliexpress

haughty void
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where would you evebn find a 3060ti

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lol

cyan ravine
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Ebay

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Fbmp

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I mean my suggestion is very clear for specifically minecraft with shaders a low end 40 series card sucks for value

haughty void
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yeah

cyan ravine
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And 3050 is not on the radar

haughty void
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what if we go over budget and do a 4070?

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hm

haughty void
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why is that so much

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why is that mouse 85$?

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wat

cyan ravine
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Cos they're good choices

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These are endgame picks for a few dollars more over ass budget

haughty void
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85$ for a mouse? and 139$ for a keyboard

cyan ravine
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I think it's worth doing

haughty void
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lol

cyan ravine
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Yeah she's about to spend 1200 dollars and the two things she'll be interfacing the most with deserve more than a basic price if it's possible

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Minecraft can run on a throwaway dell optiplex, missing the point of the suggestion

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She buys good once, she won't need to buy again

haughty void
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i get that but even my mouse wasnt 90$ XD

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it was less than that

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well

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nvm

cyan ravine
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Well a lot of the good choices aren't cheap anymore unfortunately

haughty void
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now i think about it...

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mine was way more XD

cyan ravine
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And I've wisened up a little over the last year

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Lol

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85 is good for something on par with the best

haughty void
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she honestly doesnt care

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ill probably go with logitech options at work

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walmart has some good choices and 10% discount

cyan ravine
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Logitech doesn't get recommended anymore

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Especially not with their late discussions over people renting their mice and not buying

covert vapor
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Their what

cyan ravine
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Yes this is a thing

potent portal
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The CEO walked that back immediately after massive public backlash. "It was just a boardroom idea, not something real" kind of thing.

potent portal
cyan ravine
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Yeah "Oops sorry, accidental idea"

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She sounded really serious about it

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They were testing the waters

potent portal
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At least they weren't talking about going the Apple route with DRM and serials on all the parts

haughty void
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they wahat

cyan ravine
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EU forced them out of it

haughty void
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in america sure

cyan ravine
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New iPhones don't have serial locks

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It's cheaper to manufacture for 1 type of product instead of 2

haughty void
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isnt apple watches banned in usa right now

cyan ravine
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Yes

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I'm talking about the phones tho

haughty void
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yeah i know just a question lol

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but i get that

cyan ravine
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The new 16 ones aren't locking out right to repair like the previous models

haughty void
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oh yeah

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and the new battery way was cool

cyan ravine
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Ya, it's a good move

haughty void
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yeah

cyan ravine
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Genuinely happy apple did it, changed my opinion

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Even if they were dragged kicking and screaming to do so

runic cedar
runic cedar
runic cedar
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;(

runic cedar
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Thx m8

mossy venture
runic cedar
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After vacation and paying for drivers license

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So planning on keeping that pc for a year max and switch over end of next year

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To something like a 4070 or probably better by that time, ryzen 7 x3d and ddr5 ram

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With custom watercooling

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So for now only a cheap secure PSU is enough

grim shard
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Shared List

https://newegg.io/73a279e

Would this be a good build or not? i don't know much about pc building or the components.

potent portal
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Maybe if it was 2021

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Is that for gaming? You can get a WAY better setup for that ~$1700 USD

grim shard
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Yeah gaming i just put what online said was good

cyan ravine
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Good lord

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Who is online

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I wanna meet online and slap 'em

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Even by 2021 standards this is yikes

potent portal
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The cooler and SSD especially yes

cyan ravine
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Quick prognosis @grim shard for the same money you could have 3x the performance

potent portal
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@grim shard Are you close to a microcenter by chance? They have the best deals

cyan ravine
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That's why I'm freaking out

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This is for gaming yes

grim shard
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I mean i dont play much so i dont need alot of storage but like idk about the rest? and no im not im closer to south texas

cyan ravine
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So just gaming tho

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?

grim shard
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Yea

cyan ravine
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Ok this is easy

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You should be able to get a 7900 GRE or 7900XT build, decent 1440p monitor

grim shard
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Okayy again i know barely anything about computers i mean like i know what a cpu and processor is but not good from bad ones
Is the 7900 GRE and 7900 XT like the case? Or the processor?😅

potent portal
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GPU

cyan ravine
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Sorry I'm speaking in tongue probably

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Lol

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But 3060 is like, a $700 pc spec

grim shard
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Lol yeah im cluless

cyan ravine
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Not a $1700 one

grim shard
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Oh okay well cheaper is better in most cases I'll look up the GPU tho

potent portal
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Also no need to pay full retail price for Windows

grim shard
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I thought thats the only way to get it

potent portal
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You can either transfer/upgrade a license you already have or get one for $5-20 depending on how loose your morals are

grim shard
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Ah okay well i do have a pc but its really old like win 7 2009 old so idk if i would be able to like upgrade that? Like the specs and everything its a mini atx

cyan ravine
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Do this

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I gave you same and better cpu performance and wayyyyy better gaming performance

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Quite literally 3-4x faster fps

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Much better mini-led monitor

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Which in simple terms is the step just below OLED

potent portal
cyan ravine
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Way way better

cyan ravine
potent portal
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The only real advantage going AMD is the option to upgrade the CPU later

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You don't get that with the 13600K

grim shard
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Okayy so amd over intel basically? Because i saw that there was some draw backs with the intel cpu the new ones specifically

cyan ravine
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Here's a snapshot

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Actually let me edit this one sec

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Here's what your fps looks like

potent portal
cyan ravine
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Bigger number better in this situation

cyan ravine
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Pick your poison (use the same ssd tho)

potent portal
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It's all up to you at this point. There's no clear cut winner at this price range.

cyan ravine
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Yeah what matters is that you got the gpu worth your budget

grim shard
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Okayy yeahh well im gonna do some more research then 🙂 thank u for the links

cyan ravine
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All good

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Btw @grim shard who is online

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Don't meet with online again

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💀

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You nearly got scammed by bad info

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Here's a 13600k review

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Think "5950x but faster"

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"cheaper"

potent portal
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That's the kind of PC I would have seen built during the lockdowns when you couldn't get a 3060 for less than $800

cyan ravine
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Yeah for sure

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Nowadays I wouldn't pay more than $200 for a 3060

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It's a $700 pc pick, not a $1700 one

unborn mesa
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Intergraded graphics was messing stuff up somehow

runic cedar
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So I can only get a PSU for 60 euros?

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Or is there sth cheaper that also works well

cyan ravine
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Apevia prestige 600w is $51

obsidian wigeon
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euros felix

cyan ravine
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Sorry euros

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Corsair cx550

pseudo forge
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can someone help me format my flash drive i keep getting an error

dusky hearth
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you could try forcing it via command line

open command prompt (cmd.exe)
run diskpart
type in list disk
find your usb drive, and remember the number
type in select disk <number>
clean
wait for it to complete
create partition primary
format fs=exfat (or you can pick something else like fat32, or ntfs)

subtle halo
#

Just gonna post this here.. to scare people new to building pc

potent portal
#

lol that's just the reset button not being wired right

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Like accidentally putting a LED on the reset switch

cyan ravine
#

Looks like they are tripping the psu to me

celest horizon
#

Ocp wouldn't reset like that

cyan ravine
#

Literally what my pg850gm did when it was trying to take out my 3080 but alright

flint sapphire
#

It’s clearly a gas powered system that takes a few revs to get going

celest horizon
#

Lol, rather, ocp shouldn't trigger like that

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Who knows that wish.com horror is in that rig

analog hearth
runic cedar
#

guys both deals are off the table one guy tried to scam me it seems/made the whole process take so many more days its easier to just buy new parts myself

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so I own a ryzen 5 5600, G.SKILL aegis DDR4 and a b550 mobo, what should I upgrade first? ram right?

mossy venture
#

And what gpu, storage, and power supply

runic cedar
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than the 16 gb

runic cedar
#

I have a rx 6600 and would want to upgrade to a RTX 4070 maybe

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but if ram is also important in my case then I would switch out those first

mossy venture
#

Yes there are multiple models of the same kit of ram normally.

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And yes storage and psu 100% matter

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If you're using an hdd for your boot drive, you 100% want to get an ssd for windows

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And if your psu is dangerous, you definitely want to replace it first

runic cedar
#

heard from some dudes that it was and from others that it wasnt

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seems weird

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imo

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average brand favouritism

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I own the EVGA 750W Gold Supernova

mossy venture
#

Good psu

cyan ravine
#

The type of supernova matters

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There's like 8

mossy venture
#

Evga has a few bad ones, but none of their gold supernovas are problematic

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There's varying levels of quality still like felix is saying, but none that are a danger

runic cedar
#

80+ Gold fully modular

cyan ravine
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Not what I meant sorry

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They have a model code

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Like G6, GT etc

runic cedar
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o ok

mossy venture
#

Like g6, g5, gq

runic cedar
#

GT?

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i think

cyan ravine
#

GT thank you

mossy venture
#

Ye fine psu

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Idt that one's gold though

cyan ravine
#

Sounds like a build we'd suggest so far

mossy venture
cyan ravine
#

Go back 2 years

runic cedar
mossy venture
#

It is gold

cyan ravine
#

Yep good unit

mossy venture
#

I've got the same psu but 850, good psu

#

It's high B tier, A tier is the best

runic cedar
#

I did get it recommended cuz I always check with others to make sure I dont fall into brand traps

mossy venture
#

And I'd put it at like a b+

cyan ravine
#

It was one of those few "Would be top tier but" psu's

mossy venture
cyan ravine
runic cedar
#

corsair charging 200+ euros for an AiO is criminal

runic cedar
cyan ravine
#

I love this guy

runic cedar
#

I want her PC to last long too

cyan ravine
#

Can we keep him?

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@fossil cedar pretty pls

runic cedar
cyan ravine
#

You could hold onto the b550 if it's a good one

runic cedar
#

ram or GPU? I dont want to pick my pc apart fully and then have to build her PC same day

cyan ravine
#

6600 is reusable so is the ram and cpu

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You just repurpose those another way

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If the b550 is solid you can keep that, or move to a new build altogether

runic cedar
#

gonna have to buy a new case too 😵‍💫 gonna be exhausting but atleast I get to clean out all the cathair fr this time and not just with a airpump

cyan ravine
#

5600+6600 will run on that apevia I told you about yesterday

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Ya new case is possible

runic cedar
#

but will i get more FPS with a new set of ram? and by how much?

cyan ravine
#

I haven't seen a very detailed list yet but specifics in question this could be a pc still in good value

#

New ram will only do more if you need more

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And in doing so you buy a new kit and only use that kit

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Mixing is not recommended

runic cedar
#

is there a voice chat?

cyan ravine
#

I'm soon to sleep lad

runic cedar
#

come general 1

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rip

cyan ravine
#

It's 3am

runic cedar
#

my eyes hurt

cyan ravine
#

💀

runic cedar
#

nice

cyan ravine
runic cedar
#

ok hold on

cyan ravine
#

If you can make a list here of the existing pc parts, we can tell you which are worth keeping which aren't

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So far I'd keep the psu for the new pc then get an apevia prestige 600w for the 5600 one

runic cedar
cyan ravine
#

?

runic cedar
#

So Im only trying to buy her a new pc my pc only gets upgraded if it makes sense and isnt a huge investment

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I have like 400 euros for this I'd like it to be aeound 300 tho if possible

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Around*

cyan ravine
#

Ok, we go the other way

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Apevia prestige for u, supernova for her lol

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The parts all look good, case and ssd (I hope it's an ssd) would all be passable

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Frankly a ram upgrade would be justice, that's all

runic cedar
#

Ok how expensive is it tho? I was hoping to go a bit cheaper on her psu since I will upgrade early next year anyways

cyan ravine
#

The parts I'm suggesting are basically the cheapest possible rn

runic cedar
cyan ravine
#

If you want cheaper, cheaper doesn't exist in the psu department

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As far as ram, used on ebay for some 2x16gb ddr4 kit works, makes its $30 not $50

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So $80 to upgrade yours max

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For her, not sure what your whole budget is but $400 let alone $320 is barely enough for any half decent pc

runic cedar
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Ok lets say this then: i upgrade my ram using ebay, she gets my old ram, I buy her the ryzen 5 5600, another supernova GT (i would like to go with 650w tho), a mobo (need help for a decent cheap option) and the rest she keeps from her old PC

cyan ravine
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Used 5500 + cheap board like b450m-a ii + small ssd + 5700xt + cheap case would be maybe $350-ish

runic cedar
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She has a gtx 1060

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I have an old rx 5500

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Sp thats like 100-160€ less

cyan ravine
#

Ooo tough call, I lean the 5500 way

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Ok you could do this for under 400

runic cedar
#

Im just trying to buy a ryzen 5 5600, a mobo a ram kit and a psu

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So that we wont have to share my setup

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And so we can play games together

#

Possibly a new AiO for my system and maybe a new case

cyan ravine
#

*New ryzen 5500 + tuf a520m wifi ii + 512gb ssd (A60) + apevia prestige 600W + cheap case (sama im01) + *new 32gb ram kit would be about... $400-ish?

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Something like that

runic cedar
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Never heard of apevia

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And i will probably upgrade my ram just no idea what would be better

#

Currently i use 2x 8 gb CL16

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Is there a list of better alternatives with 2x 16gb option?

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I do multitask a lot with my pc and often have 10 tabs open whilst playing some mid to high processing games

cyan ravine
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Oops that's a 5500xt, anyway it's a placeholder

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You'd use the ram here in your pc

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Use the 2x8 kit in hers

cyan ravine
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Specifically the one in the list

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And only good for very modest pc's like the one above or the one you own

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
#

I found my perfect pet

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They understand me pato

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Anyway I think ima sleep now

runic cedar
#

Thx for ur help tho

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So i guess theres no better setup than b550 and 5600 atm

karmic junco
#

Can someone please message me, my PC won’t turn on or anything. Not RGB light no fans spinning, no indicator light on my motherboard or anything. Tried a different power supply and still nothing. Please message me.

karmic junco
mossy venture
#

Was it just built/bought?

karmic junco
mossy venture
#

What psu was in it

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And when you tried another, did you reuse cables or swap all of them

karmic junco
#

I swapped the cables out

mossy venture
#

Hm, id suspect ram or mobo first then

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Just very odd, failure so soon after building would very likely be assumed to be psu

karmic junco
mossy venture
#

Search paperclip test on YouTube

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I gtg

karmic junco
#

Appreciate the help

runic cedar
#

ok so anything else I have to look out for on a mobo if I dont care about wifi and USB-C

runic cedar
#

other than the obvious AM4 and DDR4/3

mossy venture
#

Or 12600kf at 135

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Which is a fair bit better than 5600

runic cedar
#

oh u meant the other guy mb

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huh

mossy venture
#

Nah that's for you

#

12400f and 12600kf are both better value than the 5600 atm, but its up to you

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A mobo with wifi would cost more, and 12600kf doesn't come with a stock cooler

runic cedar
#

she's gonna be streaming and multitasking isnt ryzen always the better opion in that case?

mossy venture
#

No

mossy venture
#

12600kf would 100% be better

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12400f is very slightly better than 5600

#

12600kf outmatches the 5700x in games, and matches it in multi core performance

runic cedar
#

but Im happy with my 5600 cuz I have not had an issue so far in anything I have done and Im running it using stock cooler

mossy venture
#

5600 is a fine cpu, 12600kf just better

#

One sec

runic cedar
#

but its more expensive when Im trying to save money

#

due to it not having a stock cooler

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and having to buy a normal cooler would not be smart cuz we have 2 cats and they jump on our desks

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so if I dont go stock I have to go AiO otherwise its wasted money

mossy venture
mossy venture
#

A $20 cooler is perfectly fine

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And 12400f does have a stock cooler

runic cedar
#

but with the intel chips throttleing Im not informed enough to know which have that issue and which dont

mossy venture
#

12th gen is safe

runic cedar
#

ik for a fact the new ones do but the old ones also have had some issues

mossy venture
#

13th/14th had a fix released but those were the only ones affected

runic cedar
mossy venture
#

Oh

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Thought you were in the US

#

That sucks, what country if I may ask?

runic cedar
runic cedar
#

though I still would probably have stuck to the ryzen 5 if its not a huge price gap

mossy venture
#

Bruh

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Felix made a list for US

runic cedar
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since Im also already familiar with it

mossy venture
#

So I assumed

runic cedar
#

nah

#

all good

#

I just wanted recommendations

#

for hardware

#

u good I still looked it up

mossy venture
#

Only the last one has wifi

#

First 5600 list has a dirt cheap board, but it has bios flashback and will function fine for a 5600

runic cedar
#

honestly asrock looks pretty cool for a white build no?

#

if I can I would make a white/pink build cuz of her GPU

mossy venture
#

The pro4?

#

Yeah thats not a bad mobo

runic cedar
#

So since Im also upgrading my current system, whats better, the 2x8 gb 3200MHz aegis with cl16 or a trident z 2x16 gb with 3600 MHz cl18?

mossy venture
#

No point in upgrading without going to 32gb

runic cedar
#

CORSAIR CX650 ATX 650W Power Supply - 80 Plus Bronze Certified - Low Noise - Coated Cables - Non-Modular - EU - Black

#

This one good?

mossy venture
#

It's ok

#
#

Iirc you're the dude who's upgrading in a year so DC about a great psu rn

potent portal
#

"It's ok"
Recommends the same power supply with a different wattage 🙃

mossy venture
#

I mean, it is just ok

#

C tier

#

All three of them are

#

Abn 650 was just a bit cheaper

karmic junco
#

Test my psu and it turned on, not to sure what’s going on. I also replaced the CMOS battery with a new one and still nothing. Could my motherboard just went bad all of a sudden? Literally over night. Want to try to figure it out before I take my PC up to micro center and have them look at it.

little osprey
#

when 50 series drops im gonna nab the 5080 or 5090 👀

cyan ravine
#

In a nutshell, if I had the same budget I'd walk away with an XTX or 4080S instead for that much

little osprey
#

i got the 4070 used for a wild deal

cyan ravine
#

Define wild

little osprey
#

300

cyan ravine
#

Ok I forgive this

little osprey
#

lol

cyan ravine
#

Ram ssd and psu could be better tho

little osprey
#

i got the ssd a while back bc it was all that was available for instant gratification, havent needed to get anything new yet so it's still here. the ram is not my first choice either, but was around. psu was also on sale so i scooped it up

cyan ravine
#

Do you remember the prices of each

little osprey
#

paid like 90 for the ssd, under 100 for the psu, and the ram i actually bought retail because the ram i ordered was gonna take over a week to get here and i wanted my pc functional n o w

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so 105.99 for the ram

cyan ravine
#

Ssd and ram is oof

little osprey
#

facts

cyan ravine
#

But psu good

#

I give it....

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8/10

#

Actually that case bops

#

8.7/10

little osprey
#

tips on better ram and ssd though? i want whatever gives me more fps and less latency, i hate rgb 😦 hold on ill send a pic of the setup as it is right now

cyan ravine
#

Sure

little osprey
#

i did not finish the cable management bc i got excited to set everythign up

cyan ravine
#

Ignore the psu

#

The ssd and ram represent a median price for "good" for the last 8 months or so

#

And those are the current good picks in a like for like scenario

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Or if you wanted 1tb, $60 is the norm, has been for a while

little osprey
cyan ravine
#

Atp dram choices have evaporated though apart from adata sx8200 pro

little osprey
#

fanmaxxing

#

tbh i want at least 4tb storage space and have been considering a 2.5" ssd

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bc im not trying to drop 400+ on an nvme

cyan ravine
#

Wow that case has a hinge? How much was it

little osprey
#

i got it for 45 on fb marketplace

cyan ravine
#

45 is really nice

#

Ok specs are weird but you made up the losses so I dig it

little osprey
#

3 intake on the front, 2 blowing upwards into the gpu, and the rear and aio configured as exhaust

#

specs are a little weird lol

#

also do you know what i can use for a benchmark? O:

little osprey
#

the worst part of this entire pc

#

is my internet is capped at 50mb/s download

cyan ravine
#

AHHHH

#

I know the feeling

little osprey
#

i literally just got all my drivers installed and bios updated like 30 minutes ago

#

have installed a total of like a game and a half

cyan ravine
#

You should update your list with the correct pricing btw

#

It'll save people asking lol

little osprey
#

im not really sure how to do that o:

cyan ravine
#

Ah

#

Under each part it says "configure"

#

You can enter a custom price

little osprey
#

OH

#

okay hang on

cyan ravine
#

It seems like it's a good price overall so I think with that context filled people will like your work

#

PC enthusiasts worry about price end of the day so if you net better then you get the reddit karma lmao

little osprey
#

fixed

cyan ravine
#

Much better

#

That ssd still a bit yikes but it's just a zit lmao

little osprey
#

lol

#

one day it'll just be.. there, i guess. not sure i'll even use it once i get a new one. but i have to buy car parts next so im not sure when im gonna give in for a new ssd, or new ram

cyan ravine
#

I mean you own them now, use them

#

It's worse to change for the sake of approval imo

little osprey
#

the 1tb life is a struggle honestly

#

ark takes like half my freakin storage

cyan ravine
#

Ark is big tho lol

#

I hear that a lot

little osprey
#

and PISS POOR optimization

cyan ravine
#

300+ gb thing lmfao

little osprey
#

im not super familiar with things like this o:

cyan ravine
#

Looks good

serene onyx
cyan ravine
#

A little

#

@serene onyx

#

How's this

#

If you can stretch $20 you could add a nice pink tower cooler

#

Make the fan pink lol

serene onyx
#

Do you know any cool pink cases any color as long as it has pink

cyan ravine
#

That one has pink

#

Only good pink one I know of

#

Pop air is very good

#

Highly adaptable, high performance case with colour options

serene onyx
#

Bet

queen coral
#

Does anybody know any good gaming desk that will fit my computer and two monitors on it

languid nimbus
#

there’s a ton to choose from

cyan ravine
#

☠️

#

Straight for the prada level of gaming setups

queen coral
#

I ment like a normal desk💀

#

I have an h6 flow and it won’t fit on my current desk and I plan on upgrading to two monitors

runic cedar
fossil cedar
cyan ravine
#

YAY

marsh kiln
#

How can I get past this screen?

dusky hearth
#

probably no boot device

#

or corrupted boot device

marsh kiln
#

dang just after putting windows 10 on a sd card to run it

potent portal
lone flame
#

#tech-deals lots of Radeon price cuts, could this mean they are trying to get rid of inventory or something for RDNA 4?

marsh kiln
#

it was a windows install flash

lone flame
potent portal
potent portal
#

We don't expect next gen GPUs until Q1 next year

lone flame
potent portal
#

Normally that would be the case but Nvidia is delaying their launch to focus their production on AI cards they can charge 10x more for, so AMD is likely going to take advantage of their delay to improve their own product. Even if Nvidia does launch a GPU this year it will only be another paper launch with very little stock available.

#

Current rumors lean more towards February for the 5090 and possibly 5080

lone flame
#

Interesting

#

RDNA 4 flagship needs to be like 7900 XT performance with better RT for like less than 600

#

Focus on better entry and mid range cards and you win the market imo

#

High end people will always buy nvidia imo even if AMD was right alongside them in performance

potent portal
#

That is AMDs strategy this time around yeah. They're on record as saying they're ditching the high end market and focusing on the market where 90% of the buyers are to cut costs.

lone flame
#

If RDNA 5 comes out with a halo product that will probably make me upgrade

#

I’m sitting on a flagship card for half the MSRP it launched at I’m chilling by lol

potent portal
#

If the 5090 leaked specs are real then there's no chance AMD could come close

lone flame
#

Honestly AMD being mid range and energy efficient means more to me than like 600W the high end 50 series is gonna draw

#

That’s just not sustainable

potent portal
#

Remember that 600W is just the rumored baseline spec and power is one of the things Nvidia allows AIBs to mess with

#

That's why we have official 1000W BIOS from Galax for the 3090

lone flame
#

What’s like the limit of a North American wall outlet

#

Cause I know Europe’s is a bit higher

potent portal
#

15A in most households which comes to about 1600W

lone flame
#

Imagine that 3090 with like an overclocked 14900K plus a bunch of fans and RGB

#

You prob get close to that 1600 limit

potent portal
#

It doesn't actually pull the full 1kW

#

Even with LN2 the most you'll usually see sustained is about 650W, spikes to about 800W

#

But if you SLI 3090s...

potent portal
lone flame
#

thats crazy

#

didnt radeon have their own version of that? crossfire or smth?

potent portal
#

Yeah crossfirex

mossy venture
#

Better yet, 3x sli 3090s

lone flame
wispy wind
#

Hey guys okay so I have been having a problem for the past couple days where when I'm playing games my pc randomly Alt-Tabb's making it where I have to click back to my main screen to regain focus I don't understand what's going on everything I have looked up hasn't worked has ANYONE had this or know how to fix this

cyan ravine
#

Tried another keyboard?

wispy wind
#

Yeah I did i brought a new keybored around 2weeks ago logi 815and have just started having this problem liek a few days ago

dusky hearth
wispy wind
potent portal
#

So it might be a problem with the new keyboard

wispy wind
#

see i thought that but i brought the newbord about 2week ago and have startted having this issue within 2days maybe 4 tops

cyan ravine
#

Try a different keyboard pls

#

Problems can emerge over time

potent portal
#

It could still be the new keyboard. Just because it's new doesn't mean it's flawless.

wispy wind
#

Yeah true true. Thanks guys.

cyan ravine
#

Well try a different keyboard before we say our thanks and byes, nothing's established as broken yet kekw

burnt bough
#

Is this fine? Or too much?

dusky hearth
#

Normally we would just make a pea blob in the center

#

Don't have to worry about "too much" thermal paste as pretty much all formulations nowadays are nonconductive

fierce heath
#

best pc build for £1200?

#

or pre build

maiden mica
#

I need a budget pc under like $800

mossy venture
#

7500f is like $123 from there and is the best value cpu you can get right now

crimson zinc
potent portal
#

The first one imo because of the better GPU. That'll be the biggest impact on performance between them.

cyan ravine
rain bloom
#

Is $1500 enough to build a quality 1440 future proof build? I have an SSD but not a monitor, would otherwise be starting from scratch

#

Planning to sell my old rig for about half of that

potent portal
#

"Future proof" is very buzz-wordy since no one can predict what the future brings, but 1500 gets a quite good PC and monitor

rain bloom
#

Sorry for the buzzword, was thinking like “won’t need to upgrade parts anytime soon”

obsidian wigeon
#

i think you can get a pc with 790 0xtx rn

#

sorry for the space

#

i typed too fast

rain bloom
#

7900XTX is able to get 4K right?

obsidian wigeon
#

yes

potent portal
#

Depends on the game but generally yes, especially with upscaling

obsidian wigeon
#

but i'd reccommend 1440p

rain bloom
#

I’ve only ever used 1080p so I figured 1440 was a perfect upgrade

obsidian wigeon
#

1440p 27 inch is where it's at

rain bloom
#

Is part picker the best place to start still?

obsidian wigeon
#

in terms of value and fidelity

#

yes

rain bloom
obsidian wigeon
#

that'll look much nicer once you hop to 1440p

#

once you go 27 inch on 1080p

#

you get something that's called screen door effect

obsidian wigeon
#

rgb? wifi?

rain bloom
#

WiFi, indifferent to RGB

obsidian wigeon
#

alright

potent portal
#

You said you have a SSD already so I didn't include it

#

If $1500 is a hard ceiling on the budget then you can go down to the 7900 XT

jagged hill
#

i installed windows 10 ltsc on a mac pro 2013

#

it runs fine

potent portal
#

Intel Mac I'm guessing, nice

#

Also nice retro handheld collection

#

Are any of those modded, like the IPS mod on the GBA?

obsidian wigeon
#

somehow going 12600kf made the list even more expensive

#

oh yeah

#

cooler requirement

potent portal
#

Yep 7600 saves you from needing one entirely

obsidian wigeon
#

wait

#

slightly cheaper

#

i forgot about the fact that ssd isn't required

#

here's my attempt at it

#

could use some more refinement but

#

this is basically it

potent portal
#

Right neither of these are quite min/maxed builds but rather parts that are good matches for each other

#

You could technically go cheaper by doing an AM4 X3D build but I wouldn't recommend that these days for a new build

obsidian wigeon
#

the 12600kf's saving grace is its performance on ddr5

#

as well as the sheer core count

#

might be useful if you play a lot of beamng (self bias incoming)

#

i have 8 cores on zen 3+ but i find using traffic in this particular game to be..

#

not very lively

#

can't keep too many cars in the map without fps taking a nosedive

mystic needle
#

hey guys can somebody help me with a 600 dollar build for my cousin he prefers a white build with rgb he mainly wants to play rocket league and cod

timid bronze
#

I currently have a 5600x with a gigabyte 3070. I play 1080p at 360hz and in some games i dont get the full 360fps. Is the 5800x3d a good upgrade or will it bottleneck?

mossy venture
#

Or 7500f/7600 if you'd be willing to go am5

rain bloom
#

How much of a difference is there between 7900 XT and 7900 XTX? It doesn't look like too much of a difference unless I wanted to go 4K

mossy venture
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The xtx has an extra 4gb but that won't really matter for 1440p, at least not anytime soon

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And I don't see 20gb being necessary for quite a while

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Might be closer to a 10% difference

rain bloom
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Just found out I might only get $600 for my old build so the savings are looking more appealing lol

mossy venture
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Ah 100%, 7900xt is better price/perf

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Can you link the list you're looking at rn?

rain bloom
mossy venture
rain bloom
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5600x, 1660 super, 870 EVO, B550 A pro with gigabyte wifi adapter, cheapish case, corsair 8x2 3000 mhz
Is that worth $600 or more?

mossy venture
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Also i think the asus tuf 1440p 170hz IPS is $150 at wegg

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If you got $600, fantastic

rain bloom
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Is it not worth that much?

mossy venture
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Nahhh

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Cpu at most 100, gpu at most 100

rain bloom
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Am I overcharging my brother?

mossy venture
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Yes

rain bloom
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I went based off of PC part picker's value

mossy venture
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I'd sell it for like 400 max

crimson zinc
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Markets are vastly different
On Newegg, I can find a 1660s for $230, but on eBay, I can find it for $70.

potent portal
analog hearth
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@cyan ravine nice a fun BSOD that's stupidly annoying to deal with

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Kinda thinking it's my SSD though tbh. I had the same thing fail on a previous SSD, similar issue

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XPG SX2000 (some model like that lol)

potent portal
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Kernel, fun, could be literally anything lol

analog hearth
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lmaoo

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I'm thinking it's my SSD

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This is with a 1TB ADATA XPG something. I had the same issue with a 512GB variant of this SSD

potent portal
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Send me the contents of your C:\Windows\Minidump folder and I'll analyze it to see if there's a pattern

analog hearth
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uhhh how should I send that

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just the whole file?