#building-and-recc-chat

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mossy venture
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I'd imagine around a 1050 ti's performance

untold vessel
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Oh shoot; I had no idea. That's very good

mossy venture
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Yep, igpus have come a long way

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If wouldn't surprise me if we see 3060 perf in one within 5 years or so

untold vessel
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How considerable is the difference between the 4050 dgpu vs the 8845HS's ipgu?

mossy venture
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4050 is far better

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Second will have better battery life

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Also run cooler/quieter

untold vessel
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Ah, nice! Would you recommend just coughing up the extra $50 to get it, then? Seems like a no-brainer to me

mossy venture
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@obsidian wigeon how do you like your 4050

obsidian wigeon
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it benches 3dmark like a 1080 desktop

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i can say i'm pretty happy

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decent gaming perf

untold vessel
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Looks like the consensus is clear. Thank you, you two!

mossy venture
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Oh also

obsidian wigeon
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for the 7730U, the igpu is pretty weak

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vega 8

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it doesn't get the nice 680M

mossy venture
obsidian wigeon
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but ^

mossy venture
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The cpu is an 8645hs so it has 660m I believe, which is still very capable

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Or is it 670m

obsidian wigeon
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hp claiming 11 hours should mean it has mux

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660m

mossy venture
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Also ty foxy for the correction on 7730u

obsidian wigeon
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wait 760m actually

untold vessel
obsidian wigeon
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which is pretty capable anyway

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you simply switch in nvidia control panel

mossy venture
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There might be a physical switch to disable it, but ye that ^, or you can disable it in bios I believe

obsidian wigeon
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or hp's control panel software

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bios way is a hassle but that's a valid option

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my laptop can swap between gpus seamlessly within windows

mossy venture
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Mine is supposed to have a mux switch and I just can't find it

obsidian wigeon
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not sure about that victus tho

mossy venture
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6800u 3050 ti

obsidian wigeon
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if it has g-sync

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it's got optimus advanced

untold vessel
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I think I'm going to get it. Should I wait for a sale, or are sale prices & current offerings not going to get better than this for a while?

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current offerings being no better-spec'ced options appearing during same said wait for a better sale

obsidian wigeon
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freesync premium hm

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also no, that's basically as good as it gets

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i've been watching for a week+

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nothing interesting happened

untold vessel
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It's in the cart! Which RAM should I get now?

obsidian wigeon
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i'd probably get a 16gb stick of ddr5 5600

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sodimm specifically

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it'll be mismatching but

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that's a cheap way to go about it lol

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and it'll still run much better than single 8gb

untold vessel
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Sold! What's your recommendation link? I'll get it right now

obsidian wigeon
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lemme find

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nvm on a 16gb stick

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i'd either go this route

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or get a 32gb kit

untold vessel
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I'm loving the price. How much would a 32gb kit run me?

obsidian wigeon
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about $70-80

untold vessel
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In your opinion, is that $40-50 increase worth it as opposed to the 16gb mixed kit? What would you personally do?

obsidian wigeon
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it's $20-30 extra from 24gb

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so i'd say it's worth it

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it'll make that laptop last long

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easily replaces a gaming pc

untold vessel
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Sounds great to me! Which link can I get this 32gb kit at?

obsidian wigeon
untold vessel
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Speaking of actually now that we're at the $680 range, are there any other Laptop offerings that already have all of these features?

obsidian wigeon
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boom

untold vessel
obsidian wigeon
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none

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you're looking at a loq with 3050

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8gb of ram too

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4050 is a big step up for similar money

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plus you get 32gb

untold vessel
obsidian wigeon
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lenovo loq

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another gaming laptop

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that one's 699 at bestbuy

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similar cpu as well

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all in all it's worth it to upgrade the victus

untold vessel
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You're saying for $699 a best buy, the only other comparable option is a Lenovo loq, which is a downgrade to a 3050/8GB of RAM?

obsidian wigeon
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exactly

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and also no igpu

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so your battery life takes a huge hit

untold vessel
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Oh shoot, well in that case this is a contest sweep. Victus + 32GB kit is the way to go

obsidian wigeon
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iirc that one had 7435HS

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mhm

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i paid 1200 for my 4050 laptop but that's unrelated

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im not in america, so yeah- explains the price

untold vessel
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What do I do with the 8GB stick? Any uses for it when this will be my only Gaming Laptop? Can't stick it back in my ddr4 gateway

obsidian wigeon
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Sell it

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Or keep it as backup, idk

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It's barely worth much

untold vessel
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Fair enough; Is there much of a market for OEM 8gb sticks?

obsidian wigeon
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Nope

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Unless there's a bulk of em

untold vessel
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is the RAM oem?

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Ah alright

obsidian wigeon
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It is oem yes

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Whatever brand hp decided

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It can be samsung, sk hynix, ect

untold vessel
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Should I store it in some special bag or anything

obsidian wigeon
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That's a good idea, but usually ram is pretty resilient

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You can chuck it into a drawer and it wouldn't get damaged

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Just make sure to keep it away from corrosion

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That means a dry warm place

untold vessel
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Copy that. Any last thoughts before I click 'buy'? Have my mouse hovered over both walmart.com & amazon

obsidian wigeon
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Nothing else really

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Good buy

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If I was near you I'd definitely have sold you my laptop's 16gb kit lol

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I happen to get a gift card on newegg

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Wanted to spend it on 32gb myself

untold vessel
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And away we go! even gave me 2 hour shipping for free da_heck

obsidian wigeon
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nice

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You get to touch the laptop faster brrrr

untold vessel
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off to work, then. Thank you so much @mossy venture @obsidian wigeon

obsidian wigeon
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good luck

mossy venture
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My orochi v2 is dying and there's a model D on sale for $25

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Worth?

obsidian wigeon
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sure

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hm

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worth tbh

mossy venture
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It's wired, I'm tired of my mouse dying lol

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Oh it's the minus so it's small

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It might be too small for my hands

obsidian wigeon
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isn't the orochi small too

mossy venture
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I'm not sure

obsidian wigeon
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i own g305 myself so im biased

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i spent on an AA rechargeable battery

mossy venture
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I do have medium sized hands, maybe a lil on the small side

obsidian wigeon
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it lasts like

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almost a year

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before you need to charge the battery again

mossy venture
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Aside from model d are there any good mice you can think of?

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I could get it off wegg

obsidian wigeon
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asus i think

mossy venture
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I like them fairly light, palm grip

obsidian wigeon
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im no mouse expert lmao

mossy venture
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Ah alr

obsidian wigeon
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rtings will help

mossy venture
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I'll ask in peripherals sometime

obsidian wigeon
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but i like g305

mossy venture
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I have heard good things

obsidian wigeon
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it's hefty at 99g tho

mossy venture
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Orochi is around 60 iirc

obsidian wigeon
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it has its successor now

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g309

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larger i think

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also definitely more money

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i've haphazardly seen g305's for $20-30

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but it's regularly $25 or below here in thailand interestingly

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i got mine for that much as well

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anyway that's basically my take

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i love asus because of hotswap

cyan ravine
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Tryna remember that one really good one

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That's the one

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@mossy venture op1 8k?

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Good smol mouse

dusky hearth
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Dell OEM mouse aesthetic

mossy venture
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I don't necessarily want smol

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Not much smaller than orochi v2 at least

cyan ravine
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Don't think it's smaller than orochi

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Orochi is smol

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Hand egg

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It's bigger in fact

mossy venture
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Oh interesting

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Didn't realize orochi was on the smaller end of mice lmao

cyan ravine
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It's one of the smallest

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šŸ’€

lyric scarab
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šŸ‘‹ I'm considering the https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-D30-140-Performance-Lighting-Daisy-Chain/dp/B0CJZYQHRM/ref=sr_1_ & https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-D30-140-Performance-Lighting-Daisy-Chain/dp/B0CJZWKC78/ref=pd_bxgy_thbs_d_sccl_1/132-8091982-6859246 fans for my Phanteks Nv5 build. Would it make sense to buy all the reverse and flip it or buy specifically the 4 intakes the the 4 exhausts (rear and liquid cooler fans)

dusky hearth
lyric scarab
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Scrap that. I think i figured out I need 4 forwards and 4 reverse fans

cyan ravine
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Thermalright has forward and reverse fans for a fraction of the price and better performance

lyric scarab
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The phanteks fans look really good tho

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the con about it tho is thati have to get a jst to 3 pin argb header for it to work on a controller

mossy venture
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Ye but is it really worth $75/3 more? (If it really is it's not my business, not my money)

lyric scarab
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nawww, your opinion is welcome

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at the end of the day im the one asking in a general support channel

crimson zinc
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I also third baccas and Felix’s opinion

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@lyric scarab

lyric scarab
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Ah šŸ™

jagged ember
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I fourth it

manic cloak
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So I got an issue with my audio atm

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Whenever i'm playing, sometimes my volume just SPIKES

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and I mean it's not cranking it up, it's just a massive increase in volume for no reason

manic cloak
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I have fully lost audio

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I got everything plugged in, replugged it, nothing.

obsidian wigeon
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Realtek?

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Yeah that stuff is weird

smoky loom
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So I took out my CPU, GPU and WiFi card to dust out my computer, after doing all that and putting everything back where it belongs, my computer won’t turn on

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The motherboard flickers a light but then that’s it so I know there’s some type of power going through but I’m not sure on why it’s not turning on. Idk if someone can help?

obsidian wigeon
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Sounds like dust got into the slots

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Which board and cpu do you have?

smoky loom
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B550 Steal Legend motherboard and a AMD Ryzen 3 3100 4-Core

jagged ember
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What light turns on?

smoky loom
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The lights on the motherboard blink once then never again

jagged ember
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Oh like that

smoky loom
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It was literally fine BEFORE I cleaned it

jagged ember
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Mm

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Not sure why the cpu came out for this but

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Did you take it out of the socket

smoky loom
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Yeah

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I had to since there was dust cake in it

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Not the chip but the cooler

jagged ember
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Oh thank god

smoky loom
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XD

jagged ember
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I was about to be extremely concerned

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Can just use an air compressor for that next time haha

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Anyway, make sure your power connections are in

smoky loom
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Yeah I don’t really have one. Just used what I had

jagged ember
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How did you do the cleaning?

smoky loom
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Qtips and a small cloth

jagged ember
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Oh gox

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Well, I'd recommend against that

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But try removing the GPU again, and unplug the power connections to the motherboard and GPU

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Then plug it all back in, making sure you have them all they way in

smoky loom
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Okay

jagged ember
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Coulda knocked one of those loose

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And I mean the ones with the big pins

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Not the small tiny ones like USB 3.0/usb 2.0 or front panel io

smoky loom
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A fan moved

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Progress ig

smoky loom
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Nothing worked. I’m just gonna get it check tomorrow. Thanks for the advice tho SCgoodjob

jagged ember
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Dang

proper jackal
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Yo

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who’s on bro

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I just built my pc

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And it’s turning on but the motherboard has a red lightbulb

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And nothing works

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Who can help bro please what do I do

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Did it short circuit or something

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@jagged ember

vale epoch
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Alternatively the led should also have it written out next to it in very small text

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If not manual it is

proper jackal
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red orange light

vale epoch
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…

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It can be different for different mobos

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For some it could be the boot

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for others it could be the cpu

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So check

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Your

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GODDAMN MANUAL

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And once you do and find out what component it is

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Try to reseat them

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Then make sure all your power connections are in properly

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That’s the typical troubleshooting

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Also have your pc parts list ready so someone can check it

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I gotta go get ready for class

proper jackal
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had my ram backwards

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😦

obsidian wigeon
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How did you have your ram backwards?

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You mean in wrong slots?

proper jackal
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evens

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not odds

obsidian wigeon
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Ah

proper jackal
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also

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top right cpu conenction

potent portal
# vale epoch GODDAMN MANUAL

No need to be rude about it. I find it more helpful to figure out what page of the manual the relevant info is on and point them to it.

vale epoch
wild peak
runic spruce
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If u change the ram and mobo and add 50-100 bucks to the budget u can prob get a 7800 Xt

mossy venture
vale epoch
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oh wait it comes with a cooler

muted patio
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7600 comes with a cooler, save some money

vale epoch
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Niceee

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whats it look like?

muted patio
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Metal circle, basic AMD cooler

vale epoch
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idk why i was hoping for smth like the wraith prism

muted patio
tawny violet
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7600X is supposedly somewhat better bin

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And has higher power limits (slightly)

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But like
Diff is so small it's basically pointless to not get the non-X

cyan ravine
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You get the non-X to save on the cooler

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If you're not doing that, you could go one way or the other

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Real performance is marginal at best if you push both

tawny violet
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Or you have aesthetics in mind with the cooler

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Which I mean can be a valid option

cyan ravine
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Sure

cyan ravine
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YESSSS

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I DID TALK ABOUT IT

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I'M NOT CRAZY

muted patio
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Where? I wanna see

cyan ravine
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I haven't found the post in here yet

muted patio
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Ah, gotcha

cyan ravine
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It exists though

lone flame
strong raft
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That's the point, haha. Pins to pins, fundamentally wrong to imagine or see. Lol

mossy venture
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What makes it funnier

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Lga socket with a PGA cpu

stoic island
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The other way around has to have happened before but people can just hide that it happened because there's no damage done

strong raft
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Pic of My cpu on AM4 mobo just sounds comical. kekw

potent portal
sand plover
mossy venture
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This one also has an lcd display

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Half the cost

jagged ember
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And performs equally if not better

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300 is actually stupid pricing

vague oracle
untold vessel
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@mossy venture @obsidian wigeon Wanted to say thank you again for all your help. I got home from work yesterday to find the laptop waiting for me, and I'm starting to set it up now. It's so nice! PepeHands

Also had another question to ask you two-- My brother passed by and thought that this was such a great deal too. He wants one as well! He absolutely needs the CPU to be Intel, however. What are the current Gaming Laptop Deals available that have similar Intel CPU specs for a similar price?

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If anyone else would like to chime in with current Deals on Intel CPU Gaming Laptops, please do. I'm looking for all options so I can help my brother pick the best possible one for his education

muted patio
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Why does it have to be Intel? There are some issues currently with their CPU's, they're not highly recommended at this time. intel hasn't confirmed when the defects stopped and started so it's hesitant to recommend them.

mossy venture
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^^^

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No program requires intel cpus, even if it specifically says "intel i7" or whatever in specs, whoever made the spec requirement sheet is just tech illiterate

untold vessel
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Oh shoot, I see. Had no idea about those defects. Are there even any current gaming laptop deals that have an Intel CPU?

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Or are we looking at a $100-$200 price increase for a negligible performance gains

muted patio
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For gaming?

untold vessel
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Yeah! For gaming please

mossy venture
untold vessel
# untold vessel <@654444344274845698> <@214044000556941312> Wanted to say thank you again for al...

Found this Tip on Reddit. Think I should follow the advice and remove the mesh layer inside?

Transcript:
"I grabbed this. Solid for the price.

Two ram slots, populated with a 1x8 to start with. Booted and ran games fine with 64 GB total and 1x48GB (didn't have a second stick of 48 to test 2x48 with) and AMD says the processor can do 256 GB so don't believe the 16GB max ram from the description (I'll not be using this with so much RAM I just wanted to test it and report back)

Wi-Fi is modular non soldered 2230, upgrade to Intel AX210 worked fine for 6E support

This laptop had a bad whistle/whine even at low fan speed. Taking the cover off it was apparent this wasn't caused by the fans themselves but trying to force the air through the mesh holes creating a whistle. This section on the bottom of the laptop is made of the outside plastic grate, a middle mesh layer, and a top metal grid holding the mesh layer in place. I just ripped the top two layers off (held in by plastic pop rivet like points, used a flathead to get the first few holding a corner of the metal grate down then just yanked up to pop the metal grid off) so it was just bare plastic grid to fan. This SIGNIFICANTLY improved temps and even the fans at max RPM aren't as annoying as with the mesh on while browsing the web. Keep in mind this means it'll be easier for hair etc to get in but I think it's well worth the hassle given the level of improvement.

Screen and touch pad surprisingly decent given the price range. It's no high end HDR screen but it's actually a decent SDR screen instead of a bottom barrel one. Touchpad feels great, touchpad software and sensitivity only get a mid tier rating though. Keyboard pretty average for this type of laptop, backlight on it is decent.

Everything else was pretty much as you'd expect. Quality laptop, would recommend removing the mesh filter as described and buying a second 8 GB stick of DDR5 5600 to go with it, any other upgrade is just up to your style."

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Also, Does the Ryzen 5 8645HS Support any other RAM speeds? I'm not too sure how all this RAM Upgrading stuff works. Should I return the RAM you two recommended and purchase 32GB of the Max Speed RAM that this CPU Supports?

mossy venture
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Yep supports any ram speed, but most laptops don't allow XMP/expo

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There are up to either 5200mhz or 5600mhz jedec kits, which would be the best you could get

untold vessel
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I see. Thank you. How about that Mesh stuff? Keep my space clean so hair wouldn't be an issue

mossy venture
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I would ask foxy or felix, they know laptops better than I do

muted patio
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Removing the mesh will improve temps a tiny amount but also fill the internal fins and heatsink with dust and lint much faster, especially if it's on your lap

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Easier to clean external mesh then disassemble laptop to clean a heatsink

muted patio
sand plover
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Why would someone buy this 4090 if it’s $600 more then the cheapest one I found

muted patio
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Looks and performance. It's Asus top of the line card, ROG. You can overclock it to over 3 ghz

potent portal
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The "performance" part of that only applies if you're overclocking it. By and large any 4090 will perform about the same as another at stock settings.

muted patio
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Yup, it's just the Strix is known to be one of the best, if not the best, overclocker

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If I'm remembering correctly

dusky hearth
sand plover
jagged ember
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Lmao

vague oracle
sand plover
sand plover
lone flame
sand plover
lone flame
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get a XTX

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no amd bias here trust

sand plover
jagged ember
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The 7900xtx kinda is the best at raw raster

lone flame
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beats out 4080s

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4090 i dont ever see myself having a need for

jagged ember
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Again, nv is only good if you really like ray tracing and if you use thejr software suite a lot

lone flame
jagged ember
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Running a 3080 I'm expecting at least 8 years

lone flame
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what vram model

jagged ember
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Before I feel enough pressure to switch

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10gb

sand plover
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I just want to say I have a 4090 😭

jagged ember
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Lmao

lone flame
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yikes

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10gb model at full price couldnt of been worthg

sand plover
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But like still

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It will be good

jagged ember
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Not full

lone flame
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have fun with melty power cables

jagged ember
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Used, barely

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Iirc it was 800

lone flame
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i got a prebuilt christmas 2019

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think had a rx 570 in it

jagged ember
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Tail end, when everything was dropping in price

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Is when I got it

lone flame
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i thought it was going oos so i copped it

sand plover
lone flame
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4090s have had issues with their power adapters melting

jagged ember
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Pretty sure they fixed ATX 3.0 power cables now

lone flame
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its a problem i will never have considering im not dropping 2k on a gpu but idk if it still happens or not

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did they cover it under warranty if it happened

jagged ember
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Yeah

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Apparently there weren't even that many

vague oracle
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A lot of people didn’t fully plug in the connector causing it to melt

jagged ember
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Yeah that's what I'd heard too

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Just didn't plug it in all the way yep

vague oracle
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They did release a fix that extended the sense pin length that made it even more difficult to screw up but still

jagged ember
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Not necessarily a design issue or an inherent problem

vague oracle
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Yeah

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I have a 4090 and ran 1.1kW through it and still haven’t had any melting connectors lol

jagged ember
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MORE

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(The GPU will explode)

sand plover
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Idk what I’m doing

jagged ember
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Just plug it in all the way

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Its just that easy

sand plover
jagged ember
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Its like if you left your power outlet partly unplugged

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That could cause a fire

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But I'm not seeing many people afraid of wall plugs

sand plover
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I may stick to ummm

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Integrated graphics

jagged ember
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Lmao

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You realize I was making a comparison to leaving your extension cord partly unplugged right

sand plover
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Joke but what games can integrated play?

jagged ember
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Okay cool

jagged ember
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Uhh

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Hm

sand plover
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7800x3d

jagged ember
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That doesn't have igpu

sand plover
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Oh

jagged ember
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New amd chips will tho

sand plover
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It doesn’t?

sand plover
jagged ember
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Integrated graphics is igpu

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Which the 7800x3d does not have

sand plover
jagged ember
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You can't see anything so

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Yeah, kinda

sand plover
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Dang it

sand plover
jagged ember
sand plover
lone flame
vague oracle
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I’m 99% sure it does

jagged ember
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Wait WAT

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No way

vague oracle
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All of 7000 series has it in pretty sure

sand plover
vague oracle
vague oracle
sand plover
vague oracle
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Should be able to I think

sand plover
vague oracle
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What’s your current laptop?

sand plover
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It has a ryzen 3

strong raft
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7500F doesn't have igpu btw, just like Intel and their F models

vague oracle
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Didn’t even know the 7500F was a thing lol

sand plover
vague oracle
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I want to build an AM5 system ngl

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I’m bored

sand plover
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I’ll send you one

sand plover
strong raft
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7500F - Good thing is, seems not super common. Not worth losing the igpu on those

lone flame
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isnt 7500f like a 7600

cyan ravine
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7600 on the uber cheap cos no igpu

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140-ish

vague oracle
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Hey doc, do I build that list? I need your professional foot advice

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Also does AMD actually do more than 6400 MT/s now?

sand plover
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I’m no expert but that’s interesting

vague oracle
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Felix understands my design choices KEK

sand plover
crimson zinc
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What in the holy mother of pcs

vague oracle
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My current PC

sand plover
crimson zinc
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Mine looks similar

crimson zinc
vague oracle
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13900k, 4090, 48gb of ram @ 7800MT/s, 10TB of storage

muted patio
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Pressure testing cooling before adding liquid

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Nice

vague oracle
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And slightly under kill cooling

sand plover
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Slide

vague oracle
sand plover
vague oracle
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Next build will probably a Mo-Ra based ITX AM5 build

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4090 ain’t worth it anymore

sand plover
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Why is the 4090 so much?

sand plover
vague oracle
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Too expensive compared to a 7900XTX

lone flame
vague oracle
#

Prices went way up again

sand plover
vague oracle
#

That’s a stupid reason to waste $700

#

Very stupid

sand plover
#

And ummm

#

I need it

lone flame
vague oracle
#

I can pretty much guarantee you that you don’t

#

Why do you need it?

sand plover
#

It’s just very ugly like I’d prefer to use intergraded graphics then this thing

sand plover
lone flame
#

after seeing a 4090 in person at microcenter last month i can confirm i do not need it lol

vague oracle
#

7900XTX sapphire nitro+ is $1000 and a lot prettier

#

99% of people who say they need a 4090, do not actually need it

sand plover
#

But the 4090 is better

vague oracle
#

And I really doubt you’re in that 1% since you were asking about Roblox earlier

vague oracle
lone flame
sand plover
sand plover
jagged ember
#

It won't be the best in a few months haha

#

What's 5m

lone flame
#

i think gta rp

sand plover
jagged ember
#

Is that like 3M's competitor

#

Lmaoo

vague oracle
#

If you want 5M then get a 4080 super for $1000

jagged ember
#

Hopefully gtaV is still alive enough

lone flame
#

gta5 was made to run on a 360

#

thats wild to think abt

vague oracle
#

FiveM is kinda demanding sometimes ngl

jagged ember
#

You could run it on a 3050 lmao

sand plover
vague oracle
#

If you really need NVidia features then a 4080 Super is all you need

vague oracle
jagged ember
#

4090 really doesn't do much more for gaming

sand plover
#

The bottom one is so pretty but the top is so ugly

vague oracle
#

Especially coming from a 4090 owner

sand plover
lone flame
#

opops

vague oracle
#

Only reason I bought a 4090 is for work, it’s absolutely useless for gaming compared to a 4080 super

jagged ember
#

Id save the extra 700 for a dope ass monitor, keyboard and mouse

jagged ember
lone flame
#

white xtx

sand plover
vague oracle
#

and because I got it for the same price as a XTX and Microcenter didn’t have a XTX waterblock in stock when I went to warranty my liquid devil

sand plover
#

4090 rgb looks better it’s worth the extra 1k

lone flame
#

kind of white xtx

vague oracle
#

Yeah this person is brain dead šŸ˜”

lone flame
sand plover
vague oracle
#

Nope, brain dead

sand plover
vague oracle
#

Delusional still has some reason left

sand plover
#

What I wanna go for

lone flame
#

this would go hard if they actually made it

sand plover
#

It matches

sand plover
vague oracle
#

I personally think it’s ugly af but different tastes for different folks

lone flame
#

identically to every build i see ngl

#

not that it looks bad its just

vague oracle
#

Yeah

lone flame
#

EVERYONE does a white fishtank

vague oracle
#

It’s got the generic twitch egirl pc look

sand plover
sand plover
#

No

vague oracle
lone flame
#

mines black and red i get a pass

sand plover
#

This better?

vague oracle
#

Needs plumbing

lone flame
#

SLI is dead so no

vague oracle
vague oracle
lone flame
sand plover
#

Even though some days I don’t like it

vague oracle
#

Full blackout is where it’s at

lone flame
#

i like it since it helps me not get totally blinded by my monitor

sand plover
#

:D

lone flame
#

if i had the chance next time to blackout i think i would

#

or maybe static white light

#

but minimal

sand plover
#

Me like white

#

Wait I can do pink

vague oracle
lone flame
muted patio
#

Clean and black. Only way

sand plover
#

Pink and white only way

lone flame
#

well in that case the xtx has that color

#

xtx > 4090

vague oracle
#

Vintage knows what’s up

lone flame
muted patio
#

*makes

vague oracle
#

Yeah

#

Really solid ones too after you replace the fans

muted patio
#

Fans move a crap ton of air but are noisy

lone flame
muted patio
#

If you want quiet, replace

sand plover
sand plover
vague oracle
#

Idk replacing the fans dropped my CPU temps by 10 degrees back when I was using the CLC360 on my 13900k

muted patio
#

Really, interesting

vague oracle
#

Probably just static pressure ain’t good from the stock fans

muted patio
#

GN's test using the stock fans had it at first place for a while

vague oracle
#

They look fine for just case fans

muted patio
#

I have this in there now anyway with my Noctua's

#

EVGA AIO is old pic

vague oracle
#

I forgot the LFIII came out

muted patio
#

Ye

vague oracle
#

Ever since I got in custom cooking I kinda stopped looking at AIOs

muted patio
#

I'll do a custom loop someday

#

Winter projec tmaybe

sand plover
vague oracle
#

I like that I don’t have to worry about not having cooling capacity for future parts

vague oracle
sand plover
muted patio
#

LFIII is 1/3 the price and twice the cooling

#

You're paying $150 for a screen basically

vague oracle
#

Damn I completely forgot I can’t curse in here LOL

sand plover
#

I got one for 150 and it’s the same

#

There

vague oracle
#

They’re already paying $800 just to have their task manager say 4090 SAD

sand plover
#

Waaaaaa

#

It’s fine

muted patio
#

With a Tier B PSU, I'd recommend a Superflower or something a bit better

#

You don't mess around with power supplies and 4090's

sand plover
#

I’m an idiot when it comes to this

vague oracle
#

PSU go boom = PC parts go bye bye

sand plover
muted patio
#

4090's take a lot of power and have a lot of power fluctuations

sand plover
#

I got an idea

#

Just tell the 4090 no go boom

muted patio
lone flame
muted patio
#

has white cables too

vague oracle
#

4090s are actually pretty good about transients from what I’ve seen so far, no where close to as bad as a 3090 but I still would want it on an A-tier PSU

muted patio
#

Ah crap, forgot you need a newer PSU for the 4090

lone flame
#

3090ti was more power hungry than a 6950 correct

lone flame
muted patio
#

New GPU takes a new power standard and cable

vague oracle
#

Don’t most new PSUs come with the adapter anyways?

sand plover
#

Oh yea I’m dumb

vague oracle
#

Or was it the actual GPU that came with the adapter

#

I forgot

lone flame
#

i know for sure does

vague oracle
#

Yeah my TUF came with the adapter

lone flame
#

i think both maybe

vague oracle
#

Just googled it

#

I had my RM1000x way before I got the 4090

vague oracle
#
#

Wait nvm it doesn’t have a dedicated ATX 3.0 cable, only the shift does

sand plover
#

What cables and psu would I need for a 4090

vague oracle
#

If you want it to look clean, you need a PSU that has a 16 pin cable

#

Otherwise you need to use the adapter that comes with the 4090

#

Which uses 4 standard PCIE 8 pin cables

sand plover
#

I don’t know what I am looking for

vague oracle
#
#

But most PCie 5.0 1000w A-tier PSUs are around that price I’m pretty sure

sand plover
#

I’m not sure if I can do that one

vague oracle
#

Slightly cheaper

sand plover
#

😭

vague oracle
#

Then don’t get a 4090

sand plover
sand plover
#

I need one

vague oracle
#

And 1000w

sand plover
#

Waaaaaaaa

sand plover
#

What’s atx 3.0?

vague oracle
#

If you’re fine with that then go for that RM1000x I sent

#

Extension RGB cable is an extra $60 on top of the PSU and makes it more unsafe

sand plover
sand plover
sand plover
sand plover
#

Wait I still need to find an extension

#

I’ll see tomorrow I wanna go to sleep

#

Night night ā¤ļø

vague oracle
#

No idea how safe extensions are for 16 pin cables

jagged ember
#

Basically, I wouldn't get it

#

Not as good as other units

#

of course in the context of a 4090

tawny violet
#

@jagged ember you can run a 4090 on a confirmed A tier 850 right?

#

Especially with a 7800X3D

jagged ember
#

I'd actually have to do catchup to say if it can

#

but if it's not strictly multi-rail or single rail, probably

potent portal
tawny violet
#

7800X3D is 88 watts tops after all

#

I mean you could have issues if there's any that actually do draw the full 600 watts

potent portal
#

You can't hit 600 without overclocking, and if you plan on doing that you probably would be getting a 1000W+ unit

tawny violet
#

Yeah I
Might do the Afterburner "overclock"

#

But no crazy stuff

potent portal
#

A couple sliders won't get you to 600. Maybe 450-500 at worst.

tawny violet
#

Ye

sand plover
stuck laurel
cyan ravine
#

Probably 2tb mp44q

#

Not that 7000 speed matters

#

Cos no ssd in existence can sustain that for more than 15 seconds

stuck laurel
cyan ravine
#

Look on pcpartpicker

#

I can't remember where

#

Lol

lone flame
#

This just randomly happened mid game

mossy venture
#

Ooh fun. Any ram changes recently?

potent portal
#

Whocrashed time

#

Hopefully it's just the video driver

lone flame
mossy venture
#

Bc with artifacting like that it's likely gpu drivers or ram

lone flame
#

i updated my gpu drivers recently this happened like last week

mossy venture
potent portal
#

yes

mossy venture
#

Oh cool

potent portal
#

It simplifies the process of analyzing those memory dumps

mossy venture
#

If it doesn't end up being ram I'd run memtest32, could be a faulty board

#

Assuming ram wasn't an issue on the old board

lone flame
#

i have yet to go into the bios on my new board and do anything

lone flame
mossy venture
#

Hm

#

Are you using the same install of windows?

lone flame
#

mhm

lone flame
potent portal
#

If thermals weren't a problem before then I doubt it is now. More likely a kernel mode driver crashed. Examples include graphics, chipset, wifi, etc.

#

Or you can just go through and wipe/reinstall drivers until it's stable

lone flame
#

last time it did that was like a week ago

potent portal
#

Driver verifier will make that % go way down

#

It's basically a stress test for drivers

lone flame
potent portal
#

That's the idea. Make the PC crash in a controlled way so it knows which driver is the likely cause.

lone flame
#

how do I know which one

potent portal
#

It'll tell you in the crash dumps

lone flame
#

oh

#

there was also this crash a few days ago

#

if i remember correctly it happened when i tried loading into doom and joined a discord vc

mossy venture
#

Won't fix the issue but memory issues almost always means there's corrupted windows files

potent portal
#

That crash is almost exclusively caused by bad memory or a bad overclock

#

Overclock here includes XMP/EXPO

lone spindle
#

with a $500 budget, what CPU and GPU should I get to upgrade my current pc? Right now it's a 10400 and 1070. I was thinking a 10700k, RX 6700 XT, and a dual air tower to replace the Intel box cooler.

mossy venture
#

Otherwise I would upgrade gpu, and then do cpu mobo and ram altogether later on

lone spindle
#

If I opted for the GPU upgrade now, how bad will my 10400 bottleneck a 6700XT at 1440p?

mossy venture
#

And a bottleneck won't hurt anything, just means the gpu would be limited till you upgraded

strong raft
#

Partly considering 1440p, I'd say go ahead w/ just that gpu upgrade 1st. I figure a definite fps boost, varying per game.

mossy venture
#

Def would let you increase settings too

jagged ember
#

GPU always good to upgrade first for gamimg

#

Won't really see as much of an impact at 1440

lone flame
#

@muted patio my audio issue with doom also happens with helldivers 2 now

#

idfk

#

soon as I load in, all pc audio gone

#

soon as i exit, all of it is back

mossy venture
#

Did you check input/output both in windows and the game?

lone flame
#

top is output to my headphones

#

bottom is input

sand plover
mossy venture
#

Sl240

crimson zinc
#

That’s a good list if you do baccas decision

sand plover
crimson zinc
#

the AIO
The SL240

stable cove
#

So could there be any problems if I had the pc turned off but the switch on the power supply was still on for when I wanted to turn it on again?

muted patio
#

no

#

Other than maybe motherboard RGB (if you have it) staying on

sand plover
stoic island
#

Keep it on forever if you want

dusky hearth
#

My PC has been on pretty much everyday 24/7 for 4 years

#

Previous computer as well, from 2016?-2022

sand plover
stoic island
#

A game overnight? Pretty bad, unless it's like bdo and you can minimize to tray

#

If it's just idling with stuff like chrome it should only really pull ~50w

#

Less if nothing is open

strong raft
#

Using 6x or more power at load vs idle adds up.

rose musk
#

I’m installing drivers and I’m using GCC since I have a gigabyte mobo, is there an alternative control centre I could download?

#

Everyone is saying it’s horrible

muted patio
#

All control centers are horrible to be honest, nothing more than a resource hog

rose musk
#

Oh okay okay

muted patio
#

For drivers just go to the mobo manu and grab the zip files

#

If it's an AMD board, they have their own chipset drivers, probably more up to date also

rose musk
#

I’m on the control centre and have managed to change one of the rgb fan lights but the other 2 aren’t changing not sure why

#

They’re being detected in the control centre but when I try to change their lights, it doesn’t work.

muted patio
#

Oh you're trying to do rgb on a gigabyte card?

#

Or gigabyte motherboard with case fans?

muted patio
sand plover
muted patio
#

You forgot the nzxt aio you insist on buying.

wild peak
#

Does anyone have any suggestions for a pc with a budget of $850 for my friend

wild peak
sand plover
sand plover
wild peak
sand plover
dusky hearth
wild peak
sand plover
#

Shhhhh

muted patio
#

Oh, you're poor but still 4090??

sand plover
strong raft
dusky hearth
#

Real

rose musk
dusky hearth
#

Still cheaper than kitting out a garage to work on cars in

strong raft
#

Or bikes. Can build 5 good pcs for the price of a modest ninja 500. Of course having me having even 2 pcs is plenty, haha.

dusky hearth
#

Or you could buy 1 peloton for 1 good gaming pc

burnt dawn
#

was curious on anyone's thoughts

dusky hearth
#

the aio was how expensive

burnt dawn
potent portal
#

Quite a sensible build except for the AIO and 980

burnt dawn
#

AIO I understand

potent portal
#

The AIO, sure if you like the look enough, spend the money. It's your money.

burnt dawn
#

But whats wrong with 980

muted patio
#

Overpriced

burnt dawn
#

both or the 990

burnt dawn
#

Woah there with the long ass link

#

we got a baddie here.

dusky hearth
#

i have never seen a klevv neo

potent portal
#

The 980 Pro is fast but not nearly as fast as similar priced models. It's also prone to self harm from poor firmware versions x4.

burnt dawn
#

I end up not using it lol

dusky hearth
#

huh

burnt dawn
#

waste of $ but i am using it for other purposes now

muted patio
#

Sk hynix plat 2 TB $130

burnt dawn
#

Actually nah

dusky hearth
#

how old is this build

muted patio
#

You already built this?

burnt dawn
#

Pc case and gpu and aio is fairly new.

#

and yes

#

Can i show the photo here?

dusky hearth
#

nobody's gonna stop you

potent portal
burnt dawn
dusky hearth
#

and then ez money

burnt dawn
potent portal
#

Same as Dell does with Alienware now peepoSadSip

sand plover
#

I am being told to not get a 4090 because I won’t have a good monitor. What if I just keep the 4090 until I get a better monitor?

dusky hearth
#

damn that cpu block is

#

chonky

burnt dawn
#

but tbh

#

i acquired 980 about a year ago

sand plover
potent portal
burnt dawn
dusky hearth
#

you'll likely get the same fps with a 4080s as a 4090 in roblox

potent portal
#

You will not notice any difference in most games unless you're playing at 4k native resolution

burnt dawn
#

Ok, $190 for it

#

I guess I ripped my bank for no good reason

dusky hearth
#

or hell, even if you had a reg 4080

sand plover
#

Other stuff too

dusky hearth
#

yeah

#

like

#

what

sand plover
#

Ummmm

potent portal
sand plover
#

Ummm

burnt dawn
#

Why 4090

muted patio
#

Roblox and GTA v

#

According to past comments

burnt dawn
sand plover
burnt dawn
#

and then RMA it and pray they ship new one to me

#

and sell it

potent portal
#

Dang Vintage pulling the comment history lol

dusky hearth
burnt dawn
#

Imo no need for 4090

#

4070ti super probs good enough

sand plover
#

What if I want to say I have a 4090?

burnt dawn
#

šŸ’€

dusky hearth
#

well, that's an expensive thing to say

sand plover
burnt dawn
#

you're gonna make ppl mad at you. 🤣
your money by end of the day.

potent portal
#

You could make use of a 4090 in beamng... if you scale the display to 16k

dusky hearth
#

you'll probably get flamed for having something so overkill and not use it

burnt dawn
#

^

#

Cus

#

you arent fully using 4090 resources

dusky hearth
#

not even a good monitor

sand plover
dusky hearth
burnt dawn
#

if you stay with 1080p/1440p

sand plover
#

My goal

burnt dawn
#

Theres one already. ASUS OLED 27" 1440p

dusky hearth
#

by then the 4090 would no longer be a flex

potent portal
sand plover
#

Ummmm let me think

#

Wb if I get a 5080S when it’s out?

potent portal
#

In 6 months?

burnt dawn
celest horizon
#

You should buy an ada 6000 instead, also I totally don't own $nvda

sand plover
dusky hearth
burnt dawn
#

aaaa

dusky hearth
#

for watercooling/aio

burnt dawn
#

if i take the screen off

dusky hearth
#

it's a whole cube

sand plover
#

Can I get like wraps or stickers to make my gpu look nice?

burnt dawn
#

it looks little small

#

with a fan

celest horizon
#

epower it

potent portal
sand plover
dusky hearth
#

throw money at it and you'll have the solution

sand plover
#

What if I play vr games

#

4090 helpful?

dusky hearth
#

depends on your headset

dusky hearth
#

but yeah, you're more likely to see improvement with a 4090 in vr than in flat

#

vr is higher res

burnt dawn
#

nah keep the GPU raw look and appreciate the look

dusky hearth
#

2160 x 2160 pixels per eye

burnt dawn
#

Anyways about SSDs

potent portal
burnt dawn
#

I see sk hynik 2tb for $134 dollars

#

nice

stoic island
burnt dawn
#

I plan to replac my 980 later in the future anyways with 4TB nvme

muted patio
#

Plat

stoic island
#

p31 or p41?

burnt dawn
muted patio
#

P41 plat

dusky hearth
#

though quest 2 is... kinda bad
also quest 3 as well, it has so much compression even when using it through usb due to bandwidth limitations

potent portal
#

Very good drive

#

Top tier even

stoic island
#

yea, good drive

burnt dawn
#

i have a sk hynik 1tb as storage

muted patio
#

Yeah the p41 gold is top gen 3 drive too

#

*31

sand plover
#

Any ideas what the 50 cards will be priced at

muted patio
#

Quest is 1832x1980 pixels per eye.

dusky hearth
#

they got a quest 2

burnt dawn
#

Is that enough to drive 4090 to full perf?

muted patio
#

That is quest 2

dusky hearth
#

oh

sand plover
#

Like should I get 4090

muted patio
#

No

#

4080 maybe

dusky hearth
#

it means you should get a better headset if you want a 4090

#

like a bigscreen beyond or smth

#

pimax crystal

burnt dawn
#

One question for you Dani

#

Do you care to use RT and Frame Generation?

#

Ray tracing*

sand plover
dusky hearth
#

this is real

sand plover
burnt dawn
#

blud is trolling at this point now

muted patio
#

Has been the whole time

sand plover
dusky hearth
#

i swear 60 series boxes are going to look like the youtube diamond play button

#

40 series already looks like it, without the fancy geometry

#

with the big champers

sand plover
dusky hearth
#

that's not the right spelling

#

chamfers

burnt dawn
#

fps boost

#

with Nvidia blah blah blah technology

#

Amirite?

sand plover
dusky hearth
#

it's ai upscaled