#building-and-recc-chat

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lone flame
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wont i need a key

mossy venture
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No you can use the same account you currently use

muted patio
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WIndows should be tied to an account with no reactivation needed at sign in

mossy venture
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^^

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Unless an OEM key, but that's almost always a pre built or laptop thing

lone flame
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my key is actually from my old cyberpower prebuilt

mossy venture
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Oh you're fine

lone flame
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but its been fine

mossy venture
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You carried the key over once

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Itll carry over again

lone flame
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how do i start the process of uninstalling windows

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this makes me really nervous idk how to do this stuff

mossy venture
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If you just boot from a USB with windows I believe you can reinstall that way

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Are you against wiping the drive?

lone flame
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i just dont know what to do i dont understand how i can be having these issues from changing a fan and reseating an aio

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im on my pc with wifi still typing

muted patio
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Wait, "reseated aio". Did you remove the CPU block and replace it?

lone flame
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i took the whole thing out and back in when i was swapping my fan

muted patio
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Have you checked CPU temperature at all while things are running?

lone flame
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yes

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theyve been fine

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its holding at like 50c rn

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would that windows thing of done anything

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my pc updated when i restarted it last night i think

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Just lost wifi sitting on desktop, device manager isn’t detecting my wifi card

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Idfk anymore

muted patio
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Get the alternate card from Bacca, install it, test it.

tawny violet
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How can you upgrade a Windows license that is tied to your account?

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Like move from Home to Pro

weary galleon
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I think you just put in a Pro key

muted patio
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Oh, you can do it on the Microsoft Store

manic cloak
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Temu is selling Mx-6 for very.. cheap prices.

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Like 8g for 6$??

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Do I sell my soul to Temu is the true question though

dusky hearth
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they're probably just gonna send some generic paste

manic cloak
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Probably but I’ve actually had some good shop encounters on Temu though

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Just their marketing is very foreign

dusky hearth
potent portal
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Because it's cheap knock off stuff

manic cloak
potent portal
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Arctic has had issues with fakes in the past

manic cloak
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Not surprised w that

potent portal
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That's why Arctic puts the QR code on the package now that helps verify it's real

dusky hearth
manic cloak
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"Discontiuned" when I clicked on it

dusky hearth
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strange

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are there no other listings for it?

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mx4 and mx6 are the current in production pastes from arctic

potent portal
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MX5 was the discontinued one

dusky hearth
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^

opaque hearth
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Yo chat

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I need with my pc

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And it won’t show display

muted patio
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Any lights on the motherboard? Red lights on the GPU?

opaque hearth
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Idk if I’m just a idiot but

opaque hearth
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I seen a blue light tho

muted patio
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What motherboard

opaque hearth
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idk some HP motherboard with a i7-7700

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And a MSI GTX 960 OC TIT

muted patio
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Oh, we talking old school hardware. Still rocking a GTX 970 in my wife's PC lol

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Does the motherboard have an HDMI slot?

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If so, remove the GPU and plug the HDMI into the motherboard and try and boot

opaque hearth
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no

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I don’t have A HDMI

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only on the gpu

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Motherboard only takes VGA

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😭☠️

muted patio
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Monitor doesn't have a VGA input?

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I have a feeling the BIOS is defaulting to the iGPU and that's why no image

opaque hearth
muted patio
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Do you have a VGA cable? monitor should have come with one if you have a cable stash or the box still

opaque hearth
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nope!!!!!

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Ima buy a vga cable and see if it works

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If I don’t buy one

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Lend me one

muted patio
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I'd say borrow one from someone if you can

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You gotta know someone that has one laying around lol

opaque hearth
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Computer stores

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😭

muted patio
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But I'll bet the output is using that instead of the GPU until you change the BIOS

opaque hearth
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Ohhh true

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Very hp motherboard

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There bios goes straight into the VGA

muted patio
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Ya, until you go in and change the Video Output to Discrete from integrated

opaque hearth
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Alr Alr ima try

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And see if it works

muted patio
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If it doesn't, you know where to find us 🙂

opaque hearth
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where do I find u guys at

muted patio
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Wegg

opaque hearth
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Wait I decided to sell my pc for a car

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So I can get a better job and get a better pc

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But I don’t wanna sell it and it don’t show display

crimson zinc
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@opaque hearth Ywthinkies

opaque hearth
dusky hearth
# opaque hearth Computer stores

i dont think most brick and mortar stores stock vga cables anymore? at least i havent seen one on display for like years at this point

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even dvi seems rare to see on shelves

crimson zinc
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@mossy venture $500 limit, guy needs 16GB of ram, and have something capable of hitting 100FPS in fortnite.
Couldn’t this just be a used build with a 3600 and a 5500xt?

mossy venture
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id try for better than a 5500xt, but ye

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5700xt should easily be doable

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if not 5600xt/2060/1080 or similar

crimson zinc
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Got it chief

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@mossy venture ?

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Meant to put 1080ti but whatever

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Put 32 in for him cuz he doesn’t want to upgrade it in the future
Just the other parts

mossy venture
crimson zinc
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How did you find that mobo?

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It didn’t show up for me

mossy venture
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?

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oh i just searched b450 and sorted cheapest first

crimson zinc
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I feel like a dummy

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I searched b550

mossy venture
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lmao ive done that

serene onyx
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Hey guys my gf the same one whos pc is always crashing on games is having sound issues on all of her browsers

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Every browser she uses doesnt have sound and doesnt allow her to hear anything

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How can she fix this

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Not even on headsets can she hear anything

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Shes trying to install FireFox to see if that browser works when it comes to audio

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and it is working, but every other browser doesnt let her hear anything

weary cedar
weary cedar
dusky hearth
weary cedar
dusky hearth
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Wait

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Firefox has sound

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Huh.

weary cedar
dusky hearth
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I could only imagine that for whatever reason, the other browsers are set to output on a different speaker?

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Idk what else would cause this

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Maybe even a system reboot could fix it

serene onyx
serene onyx
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I think it’s her ram

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She only has 8gb

weary cedar
serene onyx
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It’s the only thing I can think off

weary cedar
serene onyx
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As to why her games crash

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The sound issue I have no idea

weary cedar
serene onyx
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Yes

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Updated drivers

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No over heating issues

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Cleaned her pc

weary cedar
serene onyx
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No dust

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Updated os

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Still her games all crash

weary cedar
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What GPU does she have?

serene onyx
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1650 Súper

weary cedar
serene onyx
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Ryzen 5 3500

obsidian wigeon
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Ram can indeed cause crashes

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But hm

weary cedar
obsidian wigeon
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Sound drivers must be missing or something

weary cedar
obsidian wigeon
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As for the crashes, it could be that there's not enough ram

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8 gigs is barely enough for anything on windows

serene onyx
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But the thing is

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Everything else has sound

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It’s just her browsers that don’t play any sound

weary cedar
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The sound issue… hm..

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Hold on rq.

serene onyx
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I made her try to update her drivers but they where up to date (unless they where for the wrong thing)

obsidian wigeon
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I'd reinstall those problematic browsers

serene onyx
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Windows 11 up to date

serene onyx
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So she installed fire fox

weary cedar
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outdated or malfunctioning drivers

serene onyx
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And it’s the only one that has sound

weary cedar
serene onyx
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Maybe

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Can you maybe send me a guide on how to delete and reinstall them

weary cedar
serene onyx
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Cause I think the drivers I made her try to update where for the devices and not the oc

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Pc*

random hedge
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Should I upgrade my i7-9700k to an AMD 7 AMD Ryzen™ 7 7800X3D

languid nimbus
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definitely would be an upgrade

opaque hearth
fossil cedar
random hedge
muted patio
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Yes but 7000 series may get some discounts also

burnt bough
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guys I have an i5-9400f and 1660s, and I get lots of drop frames from Overwatch. I play on the lowest settings, and I get around 200+ FPS but still drop frames idk if it's from the CPU or not

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mossy venture
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Yes, yes it is

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Cap your fps at something like 144-180 or something like that

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Could also be ram, id close unnecessary background applications

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(This doesn't mean go through closing random things, there are windows processes that are needed mixed in there.)

burnt bough
# mossy venture Yes, yes it is

I am capping the fps at 600 in game so it gives me 200 fps or down to 140 then 15 fps and it is not opening any application that requires a CPU it's just like that always I tried even closing all the apps but still drop frame

mossy venture
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Capping at 600 does literally nothing

burnt bough
mossy venture
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Limit the fps, and download hwinfo64 to view cpu and ram usage

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It's more accurate than task manager

potent portal
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There's a bug in task manager that pops up once in a while where it shows the CPU at 100% all the time, but that's because it forgets to count idle time. So for that reason you want to avoid it. Plus it's just awful at reading GPUs.

burnt bough
mossy venture
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Cpu usage no

brittle spindle
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Will the boot light disappear after I boot into windows?

muted patio
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Probably not. Some do some don't. Most don't

burnt bough
# mossy venture Cpu usage no

Someone told me that if I set my settings to epic instead of low, then my GPU will take over and I will have less CPU usage, and then the drop frame will go is that right?

mossy venture
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Partially

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Epic settings would probably do more harm than good, but low settings likely isn't doing you any favors

cyan ravine
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????

cyan ravine
cyan ravine
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And nowadays cpu intensive games like this will kick a 9400 around quite easily

brittle spindle
mossy lion
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hi everybody quick question

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for the Asus DUAL GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card

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is there a difference from the white to the black color performance wise?

crimson zinc
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No

mossy lion
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ik its a silly question to ask 🤣

fossil cedar
mossy venture
# cyan ravine ????

Didn't think a 1660 super would handle Allat but I guess I overestimated overwatch

cyan ravine
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Ya quick look at benchmarks it's doing 300 fps on 1080p low with 200 lows

mossy venture
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Mb

crimson zinc
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Those are solid cards

cyan ravine
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We been around each other for years at this point

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💀

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I'm not here to grill

burnt bough
cyan ravine
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I never touch that app

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Bloat

obsidian wigeon
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I only use the nvidia app for driver updates

sick parcel
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im getting a pc for the first tine can anyone helo me get the right parts

dusky hearth
sick parcel
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usa and prob under 1500

dusky hearth
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whole setup for 1.5k? or just the tower

sick parcel
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tower

dusky hearth
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you know, actually it might not be the best time to build a new pc currently since new hardware is going to be released soon (which usually means discounts on the prev gen hardware, and/or better value new generation stuff) so you might want to wait 2 months?

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maybe wait for bacca or someone to give their opinion lmao

sick parcel
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okay

crimson zinc
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@dusky hearth I’d still suggest building one.
New hardware will reduce pricing, but would still give a good idea on what to get

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@sick parcel would you be buying everything immediately/very soon?

dusky hearth
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(shhh dont expose my passing on this burden to someone else since i couldnt find a premade list for 1.5k)

crimson zinc
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(I felt that)

sick parcel
crimson zinc
mossy venture
crimson zinc
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AX is their “wifi” term right?

muted patio
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It's a WiFi spec

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D, G, N, AX, etc

crimson zinc
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I’m still not familiar with those yet

muted patio
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802.11 AX is WiFi 6

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AC is WiFi 5

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etc

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Chilling with 1.2 gbps wifi lol

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dusky hearth
muted patio
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There are ways 😉

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I could do better if I wasn't on the second floor haha!

sick parcel
crimson zinc
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@mossy venture customer needs a 3D rendering/gaming pc for $1000.
I have 0 idea what to do for this.

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Or wait
This might be @obsidian wigeon’s expertise
Or maybe Felix

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I can’t REMEMBER

obsidian wigeon
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felix

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cuz im going to sleep

crimson zinc
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@cyan ravine FEETLICKS MAN

dusky hearth
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lmao

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hmm 1k

crimson zinc
dusky hearth
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maybe change the cpu to the 7700X on that 1.5k build and change the gpu to a 7600xt?

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idk what program they're using, but the x3d chips dont improve 3d rendering in blender or such afaik

crimson zinc
dusky hearth
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i was too lazy to look for other parts so i just based it off of an existing build conveniently like 10 messages above lol

brittle spindle
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What should I do

dusky hearth
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?

brittle spindle
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I got this screen and I smelt something from the gpu

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brittle spindle
dusky hearth
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Or some other component

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If you're still in warranty, send an rma request

brittle spindle
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Dang

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Nah I bought it off fb marketplace place

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It’s a 1660 ti

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Ti

dusky hearth
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welp

brittle spindle
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Could I uninstall drivers take off the gpu put it back then install drivers and it would be good?

dusky hearth
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artifacting like this is basically always a hardware issue anyways

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anywhere from a gpu, connector, cable, or monitor issue

brittle spindle
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My 1070 works on it

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So it’s prob the gpu or I didn’t install it right

dusky hearth
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you could try reseating it

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though the gpu might just be dead unfortunately

brittle spindle
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Alright

brittle spindle
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It’s working but it’s not reconizgned as a gpu

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No 1080p option

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I will uninstall with ddu and install back

mossy venture
crimson zinc
mossy venture
crimson zinc
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Alright guys

Its 2008, I gotta have the greatest gaming pc of the year
What am I gonna use

mossy venture
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I know f all about computers from that long ago

weary marsh
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i'm looking for build help. i'm looking to upgrade to ddr5. my budget is ~$600

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this is what i've got so far:

mossy venture
weary marsh
dusky hearth
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What GPU pairs well with a 4th gen i7? (I forget the exact cpu but I know it's a 4th gen)
Definitely would have to look at the used market

I gifted an old workstation to my friend who didn't have a PC, but he may want to play some light games (e.g. genshin) and he would likely need something more powerful than a Quadro k600

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Also it doesn't have PCIe power because it's an HP prebuilt

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It's not low profile so there's no worries on that front

muted patio
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HP prebuilts of those generations are sometimes bios locked for gpus. IE it will only work with an rx550 or something. Need to know the model number of the PC or main board info

dusky hearth
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Oh

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I already gave the PC to him so there's no easy way for me to check lmao
Though at least he doesn't plan on upgrading that fast

dusky hearth
muted patio
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Dangit, need to find out what power supply is in it. GTX1050TI would work provided it's an LP slot only power card. However, some of those towers only came with a 240W PSU, some with a 400. It seems the 400W versions had a PCI-E power connector. PSU will determine what card you can run, it appears to NOT be BIOS locked

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GTX1650 is also an option if the PSU is rated high enough

mossy venture
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1650 and 1050 ti pcie powered would both be 75w so either should be fine

muted patio
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Not sure I'd add a GPU, even PCI-E powered to a 240W PSU.

mossy venture
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Hm

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I doubt the cpu would go much over 50w gaming

muted patio
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4790's can run ~150W if they're pushed.

mossy venture
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That's true, but with a 1050 ti/1650 it shouldn't be pushed too far

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Could use throttlestop to uv

muted patio
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I'm hoping it has the 400W since it's a bigger sized tower

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Then it's all a moot point

mossy venture
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Fair

muted patio
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Keep in mind also those were released 11 years ago, things got some age on the PSU caps and such

mossy venture
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Ye but they're also typically pretty well made surprisingly

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Oem psus like that in pre builts have to be reliable

muted patio
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Ya, they're better quality than most of that era

dusky hearth
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it does have a quadro k600 in it, but those are like 40w gpus and the recommended psu is 200w, but idk if that means the psu is only 240w or if it's 400

naive spear
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This is gonna be my first pc build, hows it looking buying tmr. any feedback or part changes i should do or you recommend

potent portal
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Don't get corsair memory, they lock the PMIC so you can't do anything with it

naive spear
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wdym you cant do anythiung with it

potent portal
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Meaning if you're somewhat unlucky you get a stick that needs a little more voltage in order to work at XMP/EXPO settings, but you can't give it that voltage because the power management integrated circuit (pmic) is locked.

naive spear
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ah

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what ram would you recommend

potent portal
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Better spec than that corsair kit too

crimson zinc
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The more I hear about Corsair
The more I realize that they’re a horrible company with terrible practices

potent portal
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There's only 2 things they make that are actually good and I can recommend, power supplies and (some) cases

naive spear
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dang

mossy venture
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Also check out the phanteks xt pro ultra and montech xr for some case alternatives

crimson zinc
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^^^^

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Nzxt is getting to the point of Corsair’s charging for the name, not the product

mossy venture
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And this I could go either way on, mobo you could grab the b650 eagle ax which has 1 more nvme slot, or you could spend $15 more for the riptide wifi

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$160 and $175

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Gaming plus wifi is solid too, 2 nvmes is likely enough for most people anyways

jagged ember
languid nimbus
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then liquid cool it with toilet water

cyan ravine
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So rainwater

dusky hearth
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we call that greywater in the biz

shut rampart
calm dove
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wich one is worth it ?

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using an rtx 4070 super

obsidian wigeon
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im scared of the psu

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but

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it's a 4070s

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should be ok i think

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id def get 7500f tho

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am5 better platform anyway

calm dove
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its 40 $

obsidian wigeon
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good enough then

mossy venture
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Maybe since it's such a low power cpu

obsidian wigeon
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ye

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and the gpu doesn't really use much

mossy venture
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Over 300w, no?

calm dove
shut rampart
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is b450 msi carbon max wifi capped at 1g for internet speed? is there anyway I can update this

potent portal
pseudo pollen
shut rampart
pseudo pollen
pseudo pollen
shut rampart
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alright

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tho idk, I might just upgrade my whole pc but do I really need it is the real question

mossy venture
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Still weary of the cv but at least it's not the 550 version

sick parcel
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fix this please

crimson zinc
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May I ask why you need so much ram

sick parcel
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idk

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thats why i asked to fix it

crimson zinc
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Do you plan on just gaming?

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And what’s the budget?

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@sick parcel

sick parcel
sick parcel
mossy venture
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If the programming is heavy, I'd spend less on gpu

sick parcel
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what one would be good for both at the same time

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bc I'm a beginner at programming and want to be good at it and I would also like to game as well

wheat zealot
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my friend codes with a $300 laptop

sick parcel
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okay

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thanks

mossy venture
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You can always add more ram down the line, and upgrading cpu you can just grab a later gen am5 cpu down the line and drop it in

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Although 9000 series is supposed to come out soon anyways, you could just wait

sick parcel
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okay

naive spear
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what is a good budget motherboard recommendation for my first build - ryzen 7 7800x3d - rtx 4070 super - 32 gb of ddr5 ram

south cliff
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i mean im not 100 percent if its a good one but i use it on my 7800x3d

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and no problems since i got it like 3-4 months ago

muted patio
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ASRock good

mossy venture
lyric scarab
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Anyone has a preset list for a AMD Ryzen 5 5500 for a cheap budget build

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Preferably a 5600x build still but a budget like (and under 👀 ) $1000 (looking for a neat build for a friend)

naive spear
teal dome
lyric scarab
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yeh ik

mossy venture
mossy venture
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Or msi 850 agl/thermaltake gf a3 850 for $90

muted patio
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A tier PSU, good one

mossy venture
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The second are both high B tier iirc, but they're atx 3.0 unlike the former three

muted patio
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I was literally just about to post that link 🙂

naive spear
mossy venture
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The new standard of psus, the connector a lot of 40 series uses

naive spear
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what is atx 3.0

naive spear
muted patio
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New power supply standard

lyric scarab
naive spear
mossy venture
mossy venture
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Those are atx 2.0

naive spear
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im confused

mossy venture
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Those do not have the connector 40 series use and would need an adapter, which is fine

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Gf a3, and msi 850 agl at $90, have the connector

naive spear
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so they are 3.0

mossy venture
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Leadex III 850 is just as good as the rmx and nzxt c850, it doesn't have the new connector but is $80

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Yes

naive spear
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ahhh

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ok

mossy venture
naive spear
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so the gpu slot on the psu for the nzxt and leadex do not have the right connection for a 40 series but the others do

mossy venture
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Ah the two 3.0 ones I mentioned are oos

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This is the cheapest good one at $100

mossy venture
naive spear
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k

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what is the connector cable called

mossy venture
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But again, an adapter is safe around $20 I believe it is

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It's the 12 vhpwr or something like that

mossy venture
naive spear
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the psu adapter could i get extension cables built in to make it look nice

naive spear
mossy venture
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If you want aesthetics I'd avoid an adapter. It tends to look messy from what I've seen

mossy venture
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Both come with the cable

naive spear
mossy venture
mossy venture
naive spear
mossy venture
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Yeah

naive spear
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ok thank you so much

mossy venture
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Also for case, checkout the montech xr, sky two, king 95, and 903 max for some other case options

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I didn't realize how great montech is doing case wise until every single one of those I listed was montech lmao

muted patio
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Montech has been great at cases for a couple years now, really surprising

mossy venture
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Phanteks has been consistently at least decent, fractal is overpriced and the fans are typically mediocre, in the popular choices anyways. Corsair, nzxt cases are overpriced

muted patio
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I love my Phanteks P500A

mossy venture
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Gamemax, and surprisingly mangiumgear have a few decent options

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I've got a p360a in white

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Not my favorite thing but it's pretty easy to build in

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White/black build, I bought whatever I could get at a cheap price so it's a mismatch of white/black but came out pretty decent

muted patio
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Black and white can look good if done right

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Good to see the Phanteks AMP Revolt pro is still A tier PSU also

mossy venture
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Insides are all black otherwise with minimal rgb

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I'll get a Pic sometime

muted patio
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OH, that'd be cool. Shadow behind the white blades thing

native ridge
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Can someone help me with putting my pins in too my motherboard im kinda confused on it

analog hearth
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RTFM or you'll get an ID10t error

sullen spoke
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well thats rude

analog hearth
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lol

fossil cedar
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@analog hearth cmon no need to be rude considering this a warning

analog hearth
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alright sorry

crimson zinc
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How hard would it be to make a $200 pc for a 9 year old

mossy venture
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Used 3400g build

crimson zinc
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Or parts for one

sick parcel
obsidian wigeon
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very likely gaming

obsidian wigeon
sick parcel
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best buy maybe

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or amazon

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fb marketplace

crimson zinc
obsidian wigeon
#

id definitely scout fbm and ebay

crimson zinc
#

Sigh

obsidian wigeon
#

ope

crimson zinc
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Did you see it foxy

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Or no

obsidian wigeon
#

but i mean

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a 9 year old on 200 bucks pc is fine

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they don't need to be exposed to too many things

sick parcel
#

yeah

obsidian wigeon
#

so having a basic pc is better

sick parcel
#

i think i just saw one on fb a couple days ago

crimson zinc
#

That’s true

potent portal
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When I was 9 I was on a 300 MHz processor and 16MB of RAM

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And I was very happy

mossy venture
obsidian wigeon
#

maybe i'd even go as much as throwing a laptop on that kid's mom

crimson zinc
obsidian wigeon
#

because tbh

crimson zinc
mossy venture
#

Case, psu, etc just get as cheap as you can without being ass

obsidian wigeon
#

for 200 you can get ryzen

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which is pretty nice

mossy venture
#

Could maybe find a 4500g or 4600g

obsidian wigeon
#

imo for a kiddo, a laptop is wiser

mossy venture
#

maybe 5500gt

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Oh that's true

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A laptop is a good point

potent portal
obsidian wigeon
#

but who am i to say, i grew up with a laptop

crimson zinc
sick parcel
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amazon got good starter gaming laptops for 250

crimson zinc
#

I’ll ask if she would want me to find a good laptop for him

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It’s for his Christmas present

obsidian wigeon
#

i just naturally gravitate towards laptops

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i love em too much peepoSadSip

crimson zinc
#

I grew up with an old dell desktop

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So I’m desktop > laptop gang

sick parcel
#

i also lean more towards laptop

obsidian wigeon
#

i did use a computer when i was like 6

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but after that it became all laptop

crimson zinc
#

What was your first @obsidian wigeon

obsidian wigeon
#

hp pavilion g4

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that thing went thru hell and never came back

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aka it died

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i even took its guts off to try and sell it

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i gave it away because it sat collecting dust

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just ewaste

crimson zinc
obsidian wigeon
#

it was like bought in 2013

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i had to cope with it until 2019

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it had broken hinges

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dead fan

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typical 2010's hp stuff

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it was also even outdated in 2013 lmao

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not even haswell

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it ran sandy bridge

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thing runs cool when the fan actually works

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but it never worked well once it hit 4-5 year mark

crimson zinc
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You really made that thing live

obsidian wigeon
#

lol

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being a teenager whose dad was stingy about stuff

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you have to run stuff until they totally break down

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like so badly that using it is not possible

dusky hearth
#

Over a decade newer

obsidian wigeon
#

damn

obsidian dove
#

Howdy everyone question for yall what AIO would you recommend dont want to spend a crap ton because Im trynna to upgrade my gpu either way I have a Ryzen 9 5900x Wanting to go with an aio since other coolers seem to cover my 1st ram slot so i can install all 4 of my sticks... any thoughts or recs would be much appreciated ~ Peace✌️

dusky hearth
#

They do kinda go on top, but the ram should still fit

obsidian dove
#

Either way my old stock cooler aint gonna cut it I dont think....

dusky hearth
#

Idek if it comes with one

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If it does, then it should be able to handle it at stock

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If not, you'll probably need to get a tower cooler

obsidian dove
#

Sorry So I currently have a Ryzen 3 3100 with stock cooler. Im upgrading to the Ryzen 9 5900x (which does not come with a stock cooler) Im looking for a better cooler to handle the extra performance.

mossy venture
#

Or workstation tasks too

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If you're just gaming I would highly recommend the 5600x3d or 5700x3d over the 5900x

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Almost 20% better gaming perf while being cheaper

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And I would grab a thermalright phantom spirit 120 for the cooler

cyan ravine
#

Would also consider the motherboard spec

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3100's don't usually come in b550 strixes

mossy venture
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Lmao

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5950x on an a320m-sh

cyan ravine
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Exactly why I'm mentioning it lol

mossy venture
#

Yeah... a320 is definitely likely with a 3100

obsidian dove
obsidian dove
lyric scarab
#

I don't know if I'm the only finding it weird or concerned but when this specific cooler , the Thermalright Frozen Notte ARGB 72.37 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler reached like 89% is it normal for it to get loud?

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mossy venture
obsidian dove
cyan ravine
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You mean fan speed? Yeah it'll follow what you or the motherboard set for a temperature curve

lyric scarab
cyan ravine
#

Normal

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Cpu just getting warm

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Mobo sees that and tells fans to go vwoom

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If you want to adjust it look up how to make a manual fan curve in bios

lyric scarab
#

I disabled pbo and have core performance boost on

cyan ravine
#

Keep pump speed constant btw

cyan ravine
#

It's just a case of whats sufficient

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The board will see that and adjust the fans according to the heat

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Having a water cooler does not mean a cpu stays cold

lyric scarab
#

I haven't changed any of those settings. I disabled pbo and have cpb on cuz I didn't like that it was running too hot

lyric scarab
cyan ravine
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It'll still ramp if it gets up in temp

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Idk even what cpu it is and I can still say that

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That's just what coolers will do, work harder for higher temperatures

cyan ravine
lyric scarab
lyric scarab
lyric scarab
# cyan ravine You can override that behaviour by doing this^

Yeh I know but I wouldn't want to do lower with the fan curve as it's probably throttle and cause the chip to get even hotter. But like I don't think I see a difference with pbo off even though I prefer a not top hot case (even though feeling a case temp is a bad perspective but yh) forgot to turn off ping my bad

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Also wondering if it just makes sense to just revert the maximum performance boost back to100% instead of 99%

cyan ravine
cyan ravine
cyan ravine
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Lower fan curve won't make it much worse if at all

lyric scarab
cyan ravine
#

I see

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Well if it's not making any noticeable difference I don't see any reason to peg it outside of the norm

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That 99% step is usually if you have performance issues

lyric scarab
#

Yeh and it's much cooler with pbo off and idle temp also drops

cyan ravine
#

Yes pbo unlocks ppt basically

lyric scarab
cyan ravine
#

Ya

lyric scarab
#

So prob should keep it at 100%?

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I just thought lower tempts mean better 💀

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😂😂😂

cyan ravine
#

Up to you, if you get issues at 100, put it to 99

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Or just leave be

lyric scarab
#

Want my chip to last me another 3 years

lyric scarab
cyan ravine
lyric scarab
#

Only thing I have an issue with while playing games is when I switch the window and go on another app I experience chopping in the apps. I have to usually shake the window for it to come back but that's prob a graphic issue in settings

cyan ravine
#

Set your apps to not be real-time in performance priority

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That will probably be what that is

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If not gpu scheduling or some other gpu related switching

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Like background task limits

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Or hdr flicking on/off

#

It'll be something like that

lyric scarab
#

Ah so it's nth related to v-sync?

cyan ravine
#

Uhh

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Maybe?

#

Like freesync could potentially do that

#

In combination with/without vsync

#

There's a lot of solutions for arbitrary things like this, you could google for hours trying stuff

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DDU is another one

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?ddu

jolly riverBOT
cyan ravine
#

Sometimes the nuclear option is the best

lyric scarab
#

Yeh I been experimenting and tryna see if I could find that wandering issue

cyan ravine
#

Process lasso might also help

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Or a debloat in combination with lasso

lyric scarab
lyric scarab
cyan ravine
#

That's not how I've seen it behave on my chips but maybe for others

lyric scarab
#

Oh

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It seems so cuz it doesn't reach 4.5 with at 99%, but closer on 100%

cyan ravine
#

Maybe for x3d? But I've not tried it on my x3d so idk

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I think the only time it worked for me was on an intel laptop

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Who's to say, my memory is all over the place lately

manic cloak
#

Folks..

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I might have to get a 1000w psu

cyan ravine
#

What a funny way to spell suprim

manic cloak
#

Their whole page is French

#

But it’s clearly that they’re from my area

#

Something’s fishy about it though

crimson zinc
manic cloak
#

Account is full on legit

#

Possibly hacked? Yes

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Possibly not? Yes

crimson zinc
#

Give me your old gpu tyjensen2

#

But make sure you use like PayPal business or something

lyric scarab
#

👀

cyan ravine
#

Yeah

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I've built quite a few PC's

lyric scarab
#

So what's your main CPU?

#

(hope this is the correct chat to talk bout this, dunno if it's about building pcs specifically)

crimson zinc
lyric scarab
manic cloak
#

But how does that work exactly

#

I’ve been planning on using it

potent portal
#

When it asks "what is this for" select goods and services, not friends and family

#

It charges a fee but you get protections from paypal just in case

lyric scarab
#

Seems like it was really my GPU making my case warn 👀

cyan ravine
#

Depends if you ask me for work at home or games

lyric scarab
#

games 🙂

cyan ravine
#

7950 usually

lyric scarab
#

ah

cyan ravine
#

I might throw the KS on if I'm doing an esports comp

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I kinda stopped doing that these days tho

lyric scarab
#

running a cine bench rn pogFrame

cyan ravine
#

7800x3d?

#

Yeah it is mb

lyric scarab
#

yeh

cyan ravine
#

I have had way too many conversations this morning I am forgetting between them all

lyric scarab
#

that's all gud

lyric scarab
cyan ravine
#

Nice

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I can't rememeber what an x3d gets cos x3d isn't about ST IPC

#

Lol

lyric scarab
#

oh

cyan ravine
#

I mean it looks functional

#

7000 series scores up to about, 2300? Iirc?

#

If you're clocking 4.8 ghz it makes sense

#

It would be a bit lower

lyric scarab
#

mhm thats with max procesor state at 100%

stuck laurel
#

First pc part came in

#

😩

cyan ravine
#

They look better irl than in the pictures don't they

crimson zinc
cyan ravine
#

Deltas are so misunderstood until you try them

#

When they're plugged in and running they look WAY better than the marketing

#

Good rgb and (in a rare sighting) working heatsink unlike others

stuck laurel
stuck laurel
#

Will 750 watts psu be enough for a 4070super and ryzen 77800x3d build ?

cyan ravine
#

Yes

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750w is just a capacity

#

You can have good and horrible 750w

#

But if it was suggested by one of the techies it would've been a good one

stuck laurel
cyan ravine
#

Atm?

stuck laurel
#

For the lowest price and that’s good

cyan ravine
#

A750gl might still be $80

stuck laurel
mossy venture
cyan ravine
#

Welp ig AGL sale over?

mossy venture
#

Ye sadly

#

Gf a3 is still nice tho

cyan ravine
#

Ye gf a3 basically same thing

#

Quality wise I mean

#

Stick them in the same basket with RMe

#

Lol

mossy venture
#

Leadex iii is technichally better but same difference

cyan ravine
#

Oh yeah leadex is def better

#

But gf a3, agl, rme, meh

lyric scarab
thorn mural
#

Whats the cheapest motherboard you'd get for 12700 ddr4? (on pcpartpicker)

dusky hearth
#

sort by cheapest

#

look at reviews till you find one that doesnt have a bunch of negative ones

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or something

thorn mural
#

Lmao

cyan ravine
#

B660m pro rs probably

mossy venture
#

^^ almost always the cheapest solution even between countries

#

Solid vrms and decent overall features considering it's typical price tag, $90 in the US

#

However if you can spend $20 more on mobo and (depending on if you alr have ram or not) and $84 on ddr5, you'd see a fair bit of a difference

#

And you have ram you could carry over to a new build

#

Or if you don't have the cpu either, unless you're doing video editing 7600 would likely end up around the same price as 12700kf on ddr4

manic cloak
#

So I had to replace my random pokemon toy with an empty cologne bottle which has a glass body and a glass cap I believe?

#

Would this work or too risky? + you can see how much area the bottle supports from the other side

obsidian wigeon
#

that's fine

jagged ember
sick parcel
#

is that a good build

#

and what could i fix to make it better

dusky hearth
#

at the minimum, 5000 series

#

it is considerably faster for gaming

#

actually there's quite a bit to be changed

sick parcel
#

okay

dusky hearth
#

your ssds are also way overkill

sick parcel
#

ik im still a starter at this

dusky hearth
#

also i wouldnt get corsair ddr4, they're low quality

#

is your budget 1k?

sick parcel
#

yeah

dusky hearth
#

do you need a monitor with the price

sick parcel
#

no

#

i have a moniter

dusky hearth
#

im sure this could be trimmed down better

#

i feel like the gpu and cpu pairing arent as matched as they should be lmao

sick parcel
#

lol

#

thank you

dusky hearth
#

@cyan ravine mr dentist how is this what would you change

#

idk if you're sleeping rn idk what time it is in aus

tawny violet
#

In terms of the CPU+GPU

cyan ravine
dusky hearth
#

or something idk

#

dentures

cyan ravine
#

I is a dentist

#

But dentist I is not

cyan ravine
#

Wait here

mossy venture
cyan ravine
#

A lot better but I think it can still improve a bit

mossy venture
#

Probably

dusky hearth
cyan ravine
dusky hearth
#

from this LMFAO

cyan ravine
#

Wtf

dusky hearth
#

i was like, "i could use this" then ended up changing everything

cyan ravine
#

@mossy venture Nand just DIVED

dusky hearth
#

almost

cyan ravine
#

Cheap ram

mossy venture
#

W

cyan ravine
#

Cheap SSD

#

It finally hit today

mossy venture
#

Ye I've noticed prices are on the drop

cyan ravine
#

@sick parcel

#

It's "ITX"

dusky hearth
#

oh hey the ram i picked stayed

cyan ravine
#

Like NR200p size

dusky hearth
#

i was debating on a single tower cooler but wasnt sure if it was enough tbh

#

no idea how hot 7000 series runs

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oh it includes stock cooler

#

ig it's not that hot

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lmao

dusky hearth
cyan ravine
# dusky hearth oh hey the ram i picked stayed

Cheapest nice board regardless of form factor unless storage/usb needed, cheapest nice RAM, cheap single tower is very effective on 6c Ryzen, simple SSD (I change 1-2TB depending if a GPU upgrade fits or not), nicest looking cheap GPU, cheapest nice case (mATX makes it easy), Cheapest nice PSU for the spec

dusky hearth
#

though maybe people aren't like me

cyan ravine
#

Yes 1TB is a bit slim these days

#

However

#

GPU upgrade worth

dusky hearth
#

fair

cyan ravine
#

I only really change to 1TB for that reason now

dusky hearth
#

i see

cyan ravine
#

Intel would do this list for even less if you don't care for socket life

#

12600KF + B760M sonic

#

You'd save...about $50?

#

Actually

#

I think I can do better again

#

💀

#

Brb

dusky hearth
#

lmao

cyan ravine
#

Nope

#

Nvm

#

Intel fumbled

#

WAIT

cyan ravine
#

Really cheesing it I think with the cooler but it'd kinda work

dusky hearth
#

suddenly became a white build

#

lmao

#

well, kinda white

cyan ravine
#

It's kinda better tho

#

Kinda not?

#

Lost socket life, like I wouldn't touch 13th or 14th with a 10 ft pole rn

#

But it's a 12 core

#

It's better performing than a 7600/X

#

6800 is comparable to 7700XT less hardware RT

#

@sick parcel look at this above one too

#

Look at all the ones we sent

#

I'd maybe even argue the 6800 is a bit faster

#

And for cheaper at that

#

I think this last one is minmax'd to the limit

sick parcel
#

okay

mossy venture
#

I'd take the second

#

Especially considering you can't gaurantee any upgrade being viable on lga1700 atm

cyan ravine
#

Sadge

mossy venture
crimson zinc
#

I would like to request someone to find what fans these are

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Cuz I seem to be stupid

dusky hearth
#

though it also doesnt look exactly like a corsair logo

#

wait

#

rog, it must be asus

#

though

#

hmmmmmm

#

though asus doesnt have a logo like that either

#

i dont recognize this icon lmao

#

maybe if somebody does, it would be super obvious but idk

crimson zinc
#

I can’t find anything lmao

dusky hearth
#

lmao

#

the closest i found was a corsair fan but guess how expensive it was (in cad since it's converted to local currency)

#

for 3 fans

crimson zinc
#

Well

dusky hearth
#

but it doesnt look exactly like the fans so it's unlikely to be this

crimson zinc
#

I can’t even see a logo on the case fans

dusky hearth
#

yeah i was basing it off of fan shape

crimson zinc
cold imp
crimson zinc
#

They might

Dude only has 5

mossy venture
crimson zinc
runic spruce
#

They’re ok but I’d just get some good non rgb airflow fans

stable cove
#

So is there a way to check the type of motherboard I have in my pc settings? Because right now I’m connected to my home internet and it’s only on two bars. Not sure if that’s because I need to update my WiFi drivers or find a better one for my computer.

muted patio
#

You mean the model>?

dusky hearth
#

assuming you put your pc under your desk

#

also you usually can find what wifi chip you have in devmgmt and get drivers that way as well

stable cove
jagged ember
#

yeah

stable cove
#

Are we able to buy a new antenna?

#

Nevermind I found the antennas, put them in and the WiFi problem seems to be fixed

dusky hearth
#

oh

#

you didnt even have them installed

#

well, that would do it lmao

stable cove
#

Yeah realized the problem was I never put them in until now

#

Good thing I found two antennas and the connection says it’s better so hopefully the problem is fixed

#

I just had those stored in a box

dusky hearth
#

at least you didn't throw them out lol

crimson zinc
#

Good rule of thumb, have a box on standby to store extra stuff from any components(screws, extra thermal paste, wifi antennas, etc.). Keep that box in a dry, safe place.

stoic island
#

I used my PSU box, it's generally a good size and you'll have spare PSU cables anyways

analog hearth
#

I’m about to just start writing guides that answer easily Googleable questions and put them on my website

#

75% of the questions: easily Googleable

The other 25%: people who have a genuine problem and need genuine advice

cyan ravine
#

If we had a collated place to debrief common issues that would really speed up the efficiency around here tbh

#

If you wanted to do it @analog hearth

#

Just every so often, find a textbook answer in the chat, copy paste to a new webpage

#

Soon enough it's a whole encyclopedia for easy answers

analog hearth
#

I was a technical writer at my previous job. I could write those easily

cyan ravine
#

I wouldn't even write it I'd just find them every so often

#

Wait until I rant for 10 minutes then copy paste, simplify with chatgpt lmao

#

If you wanted to do it just for a mild ten minute thing every other day I reckon it'd turn quick into something as a common reference, provided it's peer reviewed and vetted for

analog hearth
#

I'm thinking about just looking for somebody who doesn't know how to use Google and write a quick tutorial about the question they're having

cyan ravine
#

Like the letmegooglethatforyou website lol

analog hearth
#

Yeah exactly only I'm trying to be nice

#

(The good ending)

cyan ravine
#

💀

cyan ravine
analog hearth
#

lmaoo

#

I've learned everything about multiple subjects straight through Google without asking for help at all from a person

#

Y'all can do it I swear bruh

#

Starting this project

image.png
#

gonna make it easy for y'all

#

My personal HTML test page lol. Just a quick HTML document lmao (yes I'm doing all of this in HTML/CSS)

cyan ravine
#

I can see it's working yes

#

I can't see it

image.png
analog hearth
#

Yeah it's working

#

Oh yuh

#

I need to make a thumbnail bruh

#

Looks like a malware link 💀 (I promise it isn't)

cyan ravine
#

Can we make it also a dark webpage

analog hearth
#

Sure

cyan ravine
analog hearth
#

A lot of it is just making a template lol. Writing the content would be quicker

cyan ravine
#

Beautiful

#

That's all it needs, and maybe an index, with hashlinks to skip through the page

#

So every time you see something useful on here, spend 5 minutes turning it into a post with an index entry

#

After a while, organise it

#

Ez

#

@potent portal Maybe pin this site? It's a good idea

analog hearth
tired bronze
#

if i were to move the right fan to where the arrow is pointing, would it be useless there? because rn the right one is standing on top of ram sticks, and because of that i can't close my case fully

obsidian wigeon
#

it'll still be useful

#

might change your temps by a few degrees

#

but it's not like gonna make your cpu throttle

dusky hearth
tired bronze
dusky hearth
#

you're honestly probably going to be fine with one fan as well, with just like 3 degrees more temp

obsidian wigeon
#

^

tired bronze
#

tbf i had this same cooler with only 1 fan before, but i had a diff case with only 1 case fan, and the whole pc case was soo hot at some times

#

so i guess the case fans are clutching it up a lot then now?

obsidian wigeon
#

this case will fare much better

dusky hearth
#

the case was hot? that's not the fault of the cpu cooler

obsidian wigeon
#

it has a lot more fans

tired bronze
#

ahh okay thanks

obsidian wigeon
#

you can run one fan on the cooler and it'll be fine

dusky hearth
#

hell, noctua's d15 has a version that only comes with 1 fan

tired bronze
#

its a 7800x3d under it

dusky hearth
#

2 fans just give you the best performance that the cooler can give basically, but 1 fan is servicable

#

oh

#

that's easy then

#

it's not a very high wattage chip

mossy venture
#

7800x3d can be cooled by almost anything

tired bronze
#

so the best bet would be to move it where the arrow is pointing, so i can close the case atleast xD

mossy venture
#

like, a $17 cooler is overkill for it

tired bronze
#

isnt 7800x3d one of the cpus that need the best cooling?

#

atleast i thought so

mossy venture
#

5800x3d did

#

am5 is very easy to cool

tired bronze
#

i had a 5800x before in my old case with some coolermaster cooler and the case never got hot

mossy venture
#

5800x3d needed at least a very good dual tower

tired bronze
#

but when i swapped to 7800x3d with the noctua with 1 fan only, the case was getting really hot

mossy venture
#

meanwhile 7950x3d is fine on a single tower lol

tired bronze
#

ik it was a case problem, but it was a problem only with the 7800x3d, not 5800x which was am4

obsidian wigeon
#

yeah that cpu runs on stock amd cooler

#

one less fan on that chonky boi won't even hurt it