building-and-recc-chat

[plucky timber]

Ugh

You might have to reinstall

[wild crane]

Recovery?

[plucky timber]

Do you have any important data

[plucky timber]

Disk

[wild crane]

Yea?

[plucky timber]

Disc*

Try to boot into the windows disc

[wild crane]

I think it did?

[wild crane]

Im on this

[plucky timber]

Did it come with a install windows screen?

[wild crane]

No

[plucky timber]

You're probably on the windows recovery

[wild crane]

I am

[plucky timber]

Restart your pc

[wild crane]

Ok

[plucky timber]

And press f11 until you see the boot menu

[wild crane]

Press any key for cd or dvd?

[plucky timber]

Huh?

[wild crane]

Thats whay it told me at the top?

[plucky timber]

Show

[wild crane]

It was gon wuick

Im restart9ng my pc

[dusky hearth]

Before I go sleep, if you haven't already, you could put the cmos battery back in before you forget and lose it

[plucky timber]

Is the cmos still out

[wild crane]

Ye

Forgot about it

[plucky timber]

Yeah you probably want to put it back in

[dusky hearth]

Lmao

[wild crane]

Ok will do when i put ram in

[sacred obsidian]

The disc boots into recovery mode it's just slightly different

[plucky timber]

It's not booting into the disc

[wild crane]

What i do when im there(

[plucky timber]

You'd see a purple screen otherwise

[wild crane]

I was using the weong keyboard lmao

[plucky timber]

Ok so press f11 when you pc is restarting

Actually spam it until you get into the boot menu

[sacred obsidian]

Advanced>troubleshoot>system image recovery

[wild crane]

I got cd

[plucky timber]

Wait

Did you boot into this before

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[plucky timber]

Or is this your first time

[sacred obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-the-simpsons-bush-hide-gif-6118837

Ah.

[wild crane]

Nope wrong keyboard was plugged in

[wild crane]

First time

[plucky timber]

Ok

[wild crane]

IT RESTARTED ALL OF A SUDDEN

[plucky timber]

Press next

Oh bloody hell

What's wrong now

[sacred obsidian]

You know

[wild crane]

One sec i can get back there

[sacred obsidian]

Fiery wait

[plucky timber]

Hmm

Wait

[wild crane]

What

[plucky timber]

Turn it off

Cmos

[sacred obsidian]

How is your m.2 being held down

[wild crane]

The ssd?

[dusky hearth]

Friction

[sacred obsidian]

Yeah

[wild crane]

Friction

[sacred obsidian]

What do you mean friction

[plucky timber]

There's no screw

[dusky hearth]

Friction.

[wild crane]

No screw

[dusky hearth]

Pc is laying flat I believe still

[wild crane]

Nope

[sacred obsidian]

Uh.

[dusky hearth]

Oh

[plucky timber]

uhh

Ok

Maybe

[dusky hearth]

Well

[sacred obsidian]

Try putting something on it to hold it down

[dusky hearth]

That may be a problem then

[wild crane]

Like?

[plucky timber]

Tape

Actually no

[sacred obsidian]

I mean ideally a screw 😂

[plucky timber]

Maybe

Order a bunch of m.2 screws

Then fix it when they arrive

[sacred obsidian]

You can hold it and see if it will boot

[dusky hearth]

Lay it back down flat honestly, doesn't really matter if it's running while laying flat

[sacred obsidian]

If it's not held down it has a little lift tho and that could cause problems

[dusky hearth]

Also in my experience, you don't need it down on the standoff to function, even with it just hanging there, usually it'll work, though usually I'd keep the mobo flat

[plucky timber]

It's fine if it's flat

temporarily

[wild crane]

Is this good?

[plucky timber]

No

[dusky hearth]

Not that screw

[sacred obsidian]

No

[plucky timber]

That is too fat

[dusky hearth]

Usually is silver

[plucky timber]

Very tiny

[sacred obsidian]

It has to specifically be a screw for the m.2. if you have the mobo box still there might be a spare in there

[wild crane]

Im looking but nothing yet

Maybe picking a pc apart at 12 am isnt a good idea

[jagged ember]

Maybe

[wild crane]

But i wouldn't be this far without hope

[sacred obsidian]

When did the screw go missing

[wild crane]

Yesterday probably

I was tryonf stuff last noght too but couldn't get it

[dusky hearth]

Eated it

[sacred obsidian]

It sucks cause that's like the smallest screw in the pc and it's not a standard screw to just have lying around a lot of times lol

[dusky hearth]

Tbf

Most screws aren't standard screws to have laying around

[wild crane]

I don't its thag btw

Also should i put the ram and bat back in

[sacred obsidian]

I mean I have a ton of PC screws lying around

Just not that one

And a lot of them are interchangable

[dusky hearth]

I never have enough fan screws for some reason

[wild crane]

Which slot should i put the other ram in firs is in a2 i think

[sacred obsidian]

B2

The last one

[wild crane]

Both ram and bat in but no screw

Turning it on rn

I also got the clicks

The on light is back the red on

[sacred obsidian]

The vram light?

[wild crane]

Yes

Shoudl i take it out put it in b1?

[sacred obsidian]

Ok turn it off and put that stick in A1 and try again

[wild crane]

So a1 and a2m

[sacred obsidian]

Yeah

That will tell you if it's the ram stick or the slot

Alternatively you could put the second stick in the a2 slot and run that

[wild crane]

F1 or f

F2

[sacred obsidian]

F2

[wild crane]

Done

It went to the windows loadong thing

[sacred obsidian]

It's booting?

[wild crane]

I think

Is this good?

[sacred obsidian]

That means your ram is fine, but your b2 slot is broken

[wild crane]

Does that mayter i only have to ram

Also it restarted should i try and boot to the cd?

[sacred obsidian]

Put the ram in A1 B1 and check if that boots

If it does then that will be fine and still run dual channel

[wild crane]

Its diagnosing pc

Ok

I thonk its b1 that doesnt work

Caudr now its not working

Can i try a1 and b2?

[sacred obsidian]

I mean ideally you'd be in a2 b2

[wild crane]

I can try

[sacred obsidian]

But you said earlier b2 was having issues

The order of slots is A1 a2 B1 b2

You need both the numbers to match

[wild crane]

Im trying a2 b2

Whats the difference if i just put them both in a1 and a 2

[sacred obsidian]

It would run in single channel

You want dual channel

[wild crane]

Whats the difference?

[potent portal]

If B1 and B2 both don't work check the pins under the CPU and remount the CPU cooler. Sometimes a bad mount will cause memory channels to drop out, especially on Intel.

[sacred obsidian]

Read and writing simultaneously

[wild crane]

What do you mean?

[wild crane]

I cant remove the cpu or fan

[sacred obsidian]

I don't really know how to explain it

But for performance you want dual channel

[wild crane]

Imma just try a1 and a2

I just want it to boot right now

[sacred obsidian]

Is both B1 and B2 not working?

[wild crane]

Nope

[sacred obsidian]

Oof

So the issue is likely your mobo then.

[wild crane]

Gonna try one last thing of a2 and b1

[wild crane]

Probablt

Yea and no b work

[sacred obsidian]

Ok just put them both in As for now but that's gonna be something you need to fix

Which likely means new mobo

[wild crane]

Ok

[sacred obsidian]

Unless you have CPU pin damage, but I suspect is the socket

[wild crane]

Its booting

[sacred obsidian]

I'ma have to go to bed

[wild crane]

Wait

What do i do when i boot into the cd?

[sacred obsidian]

But basically you can try using the disc to reinstall window

[wild crane]

Can you give a quick guide?

[sacred obsidian]

Just follow the prompts

[wild crane]

Ok and thanks yall ill update yall if i get it

[sacred obsidian]

If it asks for a key,click "do this later" and when you get to windows desktop make sure you log in with your current account

Hopefully it will transplant your key

[wild crane]

I have the key on a paper i think

[sacred obsidian]

You can try that

But if it doesn't work just click do it later

[wild crane]

Its just a a blue screen now

[sacred obsidian]

?

Like after the disc menu showed up?

[wild crane]

Nope

[potent portal]

It can take a minute to load

Especially on a slow drive

[wild crane]

Im restarting my pc

[sacred obsidian]

I would also wait till you could get a m.2 screw tho. But that's my opinion

[wild crane]

I think i should be fine

[sacred obsidian]

Everyone else was saying it would be fine but if it's not making good contact you can corrupt the drive

[wild crane]

Its staying in

Not shaking or anything

[potent portal]

If the M.2 is held down and in place somehow then it'll be fine, but if it's just dangling at an angle out of the slot then it is not fine

Tape works temporarily

[wild crane]

I have no eay to fix it as of now

Im trying to focus on getting the actual pc to work then i will tape it down

[sacred obsidian]

He just has it laying on it's side and just friction fitted in there, nothing holding it down

[wild crane]

Its standing rn and not on its side

[sacred obsidian]

Oh that's worse

That's probably the reason it's going into boot loop if it's not already fried

[wild crane]

Also its not loading the disc its just sitting

Wait nvm

Ok ill tape it down

[sacred obsidian]

While the pc is off please

[wild crane]

It is

How do i tape it

Just tape it to the mother board?

[sacred obsidian]

Just at the end that's sticking up, tape it to the mobo

Yeah

Carefully

[sacred obsidian]

I think that will be fine but I can barely see it

[wild crane]

Gonna boot and find out

[sacred obsidian]

Try and boot it normally and if ur doesn't work then boot to disc

And reinstall

[wild crane]

Its diagnosing

[sacred obsidian]

Click the first option when it pops up

[wild crane]

Automatic repair

[sacred obsidian]

To boot to windows

[wild crane]

It says restart or advanced options

[sacred obsidian]

Restart

[wild crane]

Ok

Ran into a problem imma try and boot into the disc

[sacred obsidian]

Ok

To answer your earlier question, dual channel allows the PC to access both sticks at the same time, while single channel can only access one at a time. Single channel is much slower.

That's why you want dual channel.

[wild crane]

Gunny

Funny

[sacred obsidian]

Omg is that the screw

[wild crane]

Yea

I knew i didnt just place it anywhere

[sacred obsidian]

Bruh this has been a rollercoaster

Ok I gotta head to bed

Good luck on your endeavors. Lemme know what happens tomorrow

[wild crane]

Now im not getting a screen😭

Nvm

[muted shore]

how do you manage cables of fans and egb?

whats that thing called that goes in the back

[obsidian wigeon]

velcro straps

or good ol zipties

[potent portal]

I use those twisties that cables come with to keep them tidy

[odd venture]

I need a decent gaming GPU preferably NVidia, used price, not sure what to get. 1080 or rtx 3050, aiming for under 200 usd, anyone feedback?

[obsidian wigeon]

neither

get rx 6600 instead

better gpu than both of those

and 3050 is slower than 1080

1080 is slower than rx 6600

and if it's the 6gb 3050, that's even worse

it's as fast as 1060, that 6gb version

[odd venture]

I need it to be an Nvidia card

I need CUDA Cores too

actually

[obsidian wigeon]

do you use blender?

[odd venture]

otherwise, i prolly would go with amd

yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

hrm ok

[odd venture]

and stable diffusion

[obsidian wigeon]

but 3050 is pretty bad tbh

hard to recc

i'd probably try to find a used 2060?

or better

[odd venture]

i just need a decent gpu, i'm building a system, i'm gonna put a 800$ gpu in but for now i need something decent but budget friendly

[obsidian wigeon]

below 200 you don't have much of a choice, if at all

they're all bleh without amd

[odd venture]

At what point do you think does Nvidia start to be come relevant again? price wise?

[plucky timber]

laptop

[obsidian wigeon]

500+

anything below 4070 is a no go

[plucky timber]

isn't that for radeons as well

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

7600 is actually decent

[plucky timber]

Feel like the entire mid range has disappeared

well

[obsidian wigeon]

7800xt, etc

[plucky timber]

no the entire mid range

[odd venture]

if an exception would be made, or if amd didnt exist and you needed a card for less that like 250ish nvidia what would you do

[plucky timber]

the lower end

[odd venture]

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

and gre has recently dropped to 519

or smth like that

[plucky timber]

used market

[odd venture]

Right, but what card?

@plucky timber

[plucky timber]

thing with the used market

[obsidian wigeon]

3070 if possible

if not 3060ti i guess

[plucky timber]

prices vary a lot from region to region

[wild crane]

Can you help me more i cant get wndows to boot

[plucky timber]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

i can see the log

[odd venture]

funny i was going to spell it ScheiB

and decided not to

[obsidian wigeon]

well problem is the least crappy option is radeon

[plucky timber]

it also depends on the use case

am i gaming or doing actual work on it

if gaming then I'd just grab a used 2080 or something

or 1080ti

🤷‍♀️

[obsidian wigeon]

1080ti is meh nowadays

[plucky timber]

I mean

[obsidian wigeon]

i can't really recc it

unless it's 150 or less

[plucky timber]

$250

actually

[obsidian wigeon]

for 250 it's too much

[plucky timber]

wait

currency conversion hold up

my gtx 1080 was...

$102

so yeah in the $130 category probs

for the ti

I'd say $250 for a 2070 super?

or a 2080

is that reasonable or still meh value

in terms of price/performance

oh yeah the non booting pc

uhh

what's the situation?

[wild crane]

So i cant get to windows recovery or bios and any time i try and start up it instantly restarts with bsod

[plucky timber]

if it bsods then it got past the bios

[wild crane]

I cant open bios tho

[plucky timber]

huh

is it del?

[wild crane]

Lemme try r1

[wild crane]

The monitor

[plucky timber]

ok so just mash the key

[wild crane]

?

[plucky timber]

until you get into the bios

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145211809999

the best i can find rn

[plucky timber]

sometimes monitors are funny with post screens

[obsidian wigeon]

remember 3060ti is 2080s in perf

[plucky timber]

damn

us market

[obsidian wigeon]

much much faster than any 1080ti

[wild crane]

Im in bios

[plucky timber]

the $100 1080 was from december last year so

it was good value then

[plucky timber]

so I'm using outdated data really

[plucky timber]

ok so

you might want to reinstall windows

do you have anything important on your ssd?

[wild crane]

I tried when it finished it daid error and restarted

[plucky timber]

wait

so you reinstalled windows

[wild crane]

If i can get it to work then u can wipe it all

[wild crane]

Yes and then when it was doen it crashed completely

[plucky timber]

ok

that hints at something else

[wild crane]

What?

[plucky timber]

how did you reinstall it?

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276496439042

there's also this

3060ti's for below 250 are here and there

but they exist

[plucky timber]

oh no

no no no

memory

wait

is that a PNY

[wild crane]

I only have 1 stick kf ram in rn

[plucky timber]

nvm I thought that was a crappy chinese card

[wild crane]

What? The ram?

[plucky timber]

was in reaction to foxy's post

still trying to figure out what the problem to your pc is

[wild crane]

Ok

[plucky timber]

so you reinstalled using...?

[wild crane]

The disk

[plucky timber]

as in the dvd?

[wild crane]

Ye

[plucky timber]

ok so

[odd venture]

Think I'm gonna go with $225 Used
EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER XC ULTRA GAMING 08G-P4-3183-RX 8GB GDDR6

[plucky timber]

what was the first screen when you booted into the dvd

[odd venture]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/315457513464

[plucky timber]

isn't the 3060ti better tho

and more efficient

[odd venture]

Could it be?

if I can find one for the same price, then..

[plucky timber]

I mean yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

if you don't wanna pay anymore than 225

2080s isn't a wrong choice

just that if you add like 25 more, you get a more efficient gpu that performs the same

https://www.ebay.com/itm/285894593493

this is 249

[plucky timber]

where do you live?

assuming US

[wild crane]

Like the choose your language amd stuff

[plucky timber]

ok so that's the actual installer

hmm

what step did you take next?

did you reinstall alongside old or wipe and reinstall

[wild crane]

Let me see if i can get back to it

[plucky timber]

it's either funky microsoft shenanigans or something wrong with the ssd

[wild crane]

I dont get to the windows loading so i cant get to recovery

[plucky timber]

no no no

you don't want recovery

you want to boot off the disc

[wild crane]

I know just saying also should i remove the ssd?

[plucky timber]

you can't install windows without the ssd

nowhere to install it to

[wild crane]

I have a hdd

[plucky timber]

hmm

I suppose?

but do it later

if it doesn't work again

[wild crane]

Yea it shows me arsenal gaming logo and just straight to bsod

[plucky timber]

ok so

when you reboot

[wild crane]

I cant get to the cd

[plucky timber]

when you reboot

[wild crane]

?

[plucky timber]

keep pressing f11

do it the instant you press the power button

keep pressing it until you get into the boot menu

if that doesn't work go into bios and send a screenshot

[plucky timber]

huh

[plucky timber]

hold up

ok yes that's the optical drive

[wild crane]

Top one?

[plucky timber]

UEFI: ASUS SBW...

[wild crane]

Just click it?

[plucky timber]

yes

that should get you into the windows install disc

[wild crane]

Ok i think i got to it

[plucky timber]

nice nice

[wild crane]

So ot was loading and the bsod

[plucky timber]

it shouldn't bsod

[wild crane]

It started loading then it did

[plucky timber]

that's when loading the disc?

ok

power off your pc

take the ssd out

and try to load into the windows thingy

actually what was the blue screen message?

if you remember

[wild crane]

I didn't check probably critical process died

Ssd out

[plucky timber]

ok

repeat the steps

see if it blue screens

don't install windows yet

[wild crane]

Ok

[plucky timber]

it's still bsoding without the ssd?

[wild crane]

Ye

[plucky timber]

can't be the ssd then

hm

turn off your pc

[plucky timber]

that's good to know

[wild crane]

System thread not handled i think is what i said next time

[plucky timber]

what if

bios wasn't flashed correctly

[wild crane]

How do i find out?

[plucky timber]

hm

ok I'm being too hasty with this

disregard my wild theory for now

we'll come back to it

[wild crane]

Ok

[plucky timber]

try to swap your current ram stick with the other one

[wild crane]

It keeps liek trying to start and bsod

[plucky timber]

wait

I have a hunch

turn on your pc without the disc

and the ssd

[wild crane]

Ok

[plucky timber]

it would be really funny if it was installed in the hard drive

well not

[plucky timber]

wait

whatttt

so the ssd is out?

[wild crane]

Yea

[plucky timber]

and there's no windows dvd?

[wild crane]

No

[plucky timber]

huh

so the only drive that's plugged in is your hard drive

[wild crane]

Yes

[plucky timber]

AHAHHAAH

WHAT

WINDOWS' INSTALLED ON THE HARD DRIVE

[wild crane]

Ok?

Whats that mean?

[plucky timber]

usually people install windows on the ssd

[wild crane]

I just chose the first one 0

[plucky timber]

you really don't want a modern windows installation on a hard drive

oh

wait

ohhhhhhhhh

so that's a fresh install?

[wild crane]

Yes i think i tried reseting and ot said ot couldn't at the end

[plucky timber]

so if there WAS something wrong with the ssd it would've picked it up

page fault

that sounds like a memory thing

have you tried swapping the ram?

[wild crane]

I will now

[plucky timber]

make sure there's no power to the pc first

[wild crane]

It is off

Ram switched

Turnong it on

Critical process died

[plucky timber]

hmmmmmmm

ok you might have to re flash bios

[wild crane]

That should be easier since o have the screen now no?

[plucky timber]

but if the bios is corrupt

then you shouldn't rely on it to flash your bios

[wild crane]

What do you mean?

[plucky timber]

wait

actually nvm

disregard what i said

yeah flash it using bios

[wild crane]

So take flash drive i used before put it ina dget it to do it?

[plucky timber]

get a new bios rom

[wild crane]

Can i return the prebuilt if i used it?

[plucky timber]

depends on their return policy

try it anyways

[wild crane]

I can just sell it on ebay probably

[plucky timber]

have you used it already tho

[wild crane]

Slightly

[plucky timber]

oh well

[wild crane]

That is whats on the usb now and what i tried before

[plucky timber]

that should be the new bios right

a new rom*

[wild crane]

I haven't cleaned it yet imma reformat

I reformatted it

Should i install a different file?

[plucky timber]

what's your cpu?

[wild crane]

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 8-Core, 16-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor

[plucky timber]

hold up

try one version older

[wild crane]

7c02v3h

?

[plucky timber]

yes

[odd venture]

us but im gonna wait and just get a more expensive option

[plucky timber]

hmm

if you're going to wait

when the new gpu releases

prices will drop on used cards

so if you don't mind waiting a couple months

[wild crane]

This good?

[plucky timber]

yes

[odd venture]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-rtx-4070-ti-super-16g-gaming-x-trio-white/p/N82E16814137859

this was my original idea

[wild crane]

Ok my pc is off should i eject it hit the button and pray?

Imma put the drive in my old pc and hope it goes well

Its flashing

[wild crane]

Was the bios i used not good with my cpu?

[plucky timber]

Could be various issues

[plucky timber]

Very mid value tbh

$869 is wayyy too much

At least from a performance / $ perspective

[wild crane]

That gpu cost more than my prebuilt thats kinda sucks tbh

[plucky timber]

Bad bios flash, buggy bios version

[plucky timber]

That's not why the value's bad

[wild crane]

Oh whats with it?

[plucky timber]

price

[wild crane]

Rice?

Oh

💀

[muted shore]

is this ram good enough?

getting two 16gb ones 3200mhz

[plucky timber]

good enough for...?

[muted shore]

laptop

[plucky timber]

what's the use case tho

[odd venture]

https://imgur.com/a/DjSdlZ7
https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Dominator-Titanium-Compatible-Computer/dp/B0CHSGZDQD

it matches the aesthetic of my build

[plucky timber]

ohhhh

yeah I see

[odd venture]

ram i changed btw

[muted shore]

work

[plucky timber]

I mean it's not bad

[odd venture]

everything

general use, overall

[plucky timber]

generally with DDR4 3200 sodimms they're CL20-22

[odd venture]

i do a little bit of everything, but mostly gaming / workstation / programming / gpu intensive / modeling related stuff

[muted shore]

yeah

[plucky timber]

was referring to the ram the other person posted

[muted shore]

cl 20

[wild crane]

How do i know when it stops flashing?

[muted shore]

idk about the ranking and all

[odd venture]

oh lol

[plucky timber]

my kit specifically is cl22 so

[muted shore]

i see

[plucky timber]

20's fairly good for that frequency

[muted shore]

what about the ranking

like dual rank

quad rank thing

[plucky timber]

wait

is this a single stick

[wild crane]

My pc just finished i think it powered off and on

[plucky timber]

oh nvm

I'm stupid and didn't read

yeah so 2x 16 of these sticks

[wild crane]

The red light stopped flashing and is solid rn is that bad?

[muted shore]

yes 16*2

[plucky timber]

what work do you do tho

[plucky timber]

wait how did you flash it again?

[muted shore]

i run a server on my computer

[wild crane]

I put the drive in the back and pressed the button

[muted shore]

else 16 gb doesnt run my work or other's work

[plucky timber]

I see

[wild crane]

Im getting bsod again

[plucky timber]

Think this is way out of my league

but generally speaking from a desktop / gaming / workstation workload perspective the sticks are fine

[muted shore]

alright thanks

will buy two

[plucky timber]

yeah that's what I did too

apparently sodimm kits aren't that common

[wild crane]

Are you talk9ng about my pc or the ram?

[plucky timber]

the ram

[wild crane]

Ok

[plucky timber]

but for your pc

I'm out of ideas

how did you flash bios?

[wild crane]

With a hard drive in the back

[plucky timber]

huh

???

[wild crane]

I put the drive in and pressed the button for a few seconds and it started

[plucky timber]

ohh

the usb drive

[muted shore]

also are acer predator ram good

for pc

[muted shore]

Acer Predator Pallas II 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5 6000MHz (White)

[muted shore]

ayee i have same mobo iirc

b550

[wild crane]

B450

[plucky timber]

DDR5 is out of my league sorry

[muted shore]

shiet ma bad

alright thanks

[plucky timber]

yeah my info's a bit outdated

[wild crane]

Could the hdd be ba

Bad?

[plucky timber]

improbable but not impossible

[wild crane]

Could i take it out put the ssd in and try?

[plucky timber]

yeah

turn off your pc

[wild crane]

What os csm/uefi?

[plucky timber]

unplug thesata cable

uhhh

you don't have to worry about that

[wild crane]

Ok

I unplugged it now put ssd in?

[plucky timber]

ja

[wild crane]

Should i screw it back down?

[plucky timber]

yes

[wild crane]

Ssd in sata put

Do i plug the dvd and stuff in?

[plucky timber]

ok so

ja ja

ok so before you install windows again

[wild crane]

Should i turn it off first?

[plucky timber]

you're sure there's nothing important?

on the drive

[wild crane]

100%

[plucky timber]

you can't do it otherwise

ok yeah reinstall windows then

[wild crane]

Cd player plugged in

Turn it on now?

[plucky timber]

yeah

do the f11 spam again

[wild crane]

Ok

Ok did it

[plucky timber]

SBW

[wild crane]

Asus?

[plucky timber]

yes

[wild crane]

Ok clicked

[muted shore]

please reccomend some good pc cases that look like this

[wild crane]

I still got bsod😭

[plucky timber]

yeah my mind's blank at this point

[plucky timber]

Lian Li O11D

[wild crane]

Does the dvd drice need normal usb or blue ones?

[plucky timber]

shouldn't matter

[plucky timber]

ok something in your pc is funny

[wild crane]

Like?

[plucky timber]

that's the headachy part

could be cpu, motherboard

could also be memory

if somehow both sticks failed

[wild crane]

Can i just like send my pc to someone then they do it?

[plucky timber]

wait

is that in the uhh

[wild crane]

Yes?

[plucky timber]

is that in the windows recovery

or the windows disc

[wild crane]

It just shows recovery

Windows disc i think?

[plucky timber]

hmm

what the devil

[wild crane]

Only thing thats in is ssd

[plucky timber]

judging by what we've seen so far

It's probably not the ssd

is the ssd in correctly

[wild crane]

Its says f8 for startup setting

[plucky timber]

show pic

of ssd

[wild crane]

I cant get a light but ok

[plucky timber]

should be in correctly

I have a massive brain block rn

I'm out of ideas

[wild crane]

So if the recovery is on the dvd whay if i just unplugged it would thag answer that?

[plucky timber]

what

[wild crane]

Didnt you ask if the recovery was on the dvd?

[plucky timber]

uh

[wild crane]

Im trying to enter startup setting with f8

Im at startup settings

[plucky timber]

that looks like you're in the recovery of the ssd

[wild crane]

Is that good?

[plucky timber]

did you get the purple screen

[wild crane]

No

[plucky timber]

ok you're on the ssd

[wild crane]

So what should i do?

[plucky timber]

uh

at this point I don't even remember what I was doing 30 minutes ago so

my brain's getting sleepy

[wild crane]

Safe mode?

Imma try 6

[plucky timber]

I'll probably let someone else take a crack at it

gonna go to sleep

[wild crane]

Wait now it says it cant write memory😭

[wild crane]

I gulice up for tonight goodnight dude thanks for your help

[plucky timber]

wish I could've helped more but

brain dead

[wild crane]

Ill try again tomorrow

[plucky timber]

yeah

fresh state of mind

just like the bios yesterday

[wild crane]

Just had to posibly lose the returnability of a new pc for it

[odd venture]

GeForce RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X 12G OC Graphics Card

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144716664086

Considering this, 260 USD and 2 year warranty

[obsidian wigeon]

noooo

don't do that

[odd venture]

ill just get a 3080

[cyan ravine]

Ah yes

Meh-ntus

[dusky hearth]

[plucky timber]

Aren't there Tis for the same price

Also ventus cards are uh

They're pretty much the modern MSI Armor

[sacred obsidian]

I have an idea. What's your rebuilt specs? If they're compatible, we can swap parts around to make the rebuilt a lot better.

[crimson zinc]

Yes

[wild crane]

Which specs specifically?

[sacred obsidian]

Like what CPU and mobo

[wild crane]

Well i still cant boot google

[sacred obsidian]

What

[wild crane]

I cant boot google

I don't need it to run better cause i cant even run anything

[sacred obsidian]

On the prebuilt?

[wild crane]

No

The pre built im probably gonna wipe and sell/return

Amd focus on fixing my old one its probably cheaper and bwttwr

[sacred obsidian]

I'm talking about the prebuilt. The old PC doesn't work but has better parts, we could transplant parts from the old PC into the new prebuilt to make the prebuilt better.

I think at the very least your mobo is messed up or possibly your cpu. The issues you are having are weird but either way even if you fix it, you're gonna need a new mobo as B1 and b2 don't work

And the blue screen seems to point to there being other issues with either the cpu or Mobo as well, I suspect mobo

You were asking about putting the GPU into your prebuilt, you could do that if you change over the PSU too. If your old CPU is better than the prebuilt, and it has a compatible Mobo, you could swap that over too if you have thermal paste. Then you could probably put the ram in the prebuilt as well, then you'd have a much better PC. You could also put the hard drive and probably the m.2 in the prebuilt for more storage as well.

But CPU and RAM depend on the prebuilt PC specs.

[wild crane]

The prebuilt cant fit much id much rather sell it and fix my older one it would be cheaper cause id probably just need to replace a mobo

[wild crane]

Im trying once more to start my pc up and it doesnt seems to be working i think im going to replace the ssd and see if that helps

Wait i got the the windows download

[severe hull]

If I go onto bios and turn secure boot on why does it continue to turn off ?

[dusky hearth]

what is the correlation

[severe hull]

Talking to me

[dusky hearth]

yeah

wait

oh you mean the setting keeps turning off?

i assume you have like, a msi bios

this happened to me as well, it was some bios setting that was conflicting with it

iirc the fix was to disable tpm and re enable it

or smth

ah it was the PK keys

[severe hull]

Sp toggle pk keys ?

[dusky hearth]

Basically, re enroll them or smth, just change the setting then change it back

[severe hull]

I'll try thanks

[dusky hearth]

Yeah I had a similar issue when upgrading to Windows 11 on my current pc

[severe hull]

Been trying to get valorant to work after building new pc

[crimson zinc]

Did you apply thermal paste

To cpu

[dusky hearth]

im assuming it isnt launching properly?

the way they worded it sounds like it doesnt even launch

[nova apex]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CB6ZWHGT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATO3RWH7VGA18&psc=1 pretty sure this isnt the right channel, but how is this for studying Mechanical Engineering tech

[dusky hearth]

dells dont tend to have the best price to performance; some people here probably have better value recommendations
also gaming laptops usually are very good workstation laptops for cheaper than laptops marketed as workstations

[plucky timber]

$800?

That's getting into 3060 price range

A dgpu would be a lot better if you end up doing CAD

Especially considering the fact that you're getting a lot more performance for the same price

[muted shore]

is 4080 and r7 7800x good

x3d

with 850w psu

trying to build a white pc

[odd venture]

i bought a gtx 980 for 75

[plucky timber]

huh

what was this in reply to

[lone flame]

for my case swap im doing i have 7 thermalright rgb fans, ive never built with rgb fans before, will i need like a header or something for that

rgb and cables scare me

[odd venture]

wrong person lol

[odd venture]

not wrong person

about my gpu

[odd venture]

meant to reply to, but 747 you were also part of that conversation

idk if i made a mistake paying 75 for the 980, or what but it seems like it does better than any of the others that were more expensive

[plucky timber]

the price isn't really the issue here

maxwell cards don't get driver updates anymore

so while it's on par with say a GTX 1660

It's not going to age well

arguably it's already not aging too well

[odd venture]

I mean it should still work for another x years even with outdated drivers no?

I used a GTX 950 for 10 years and it was fine

until it stopped working

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

but the lack of driver optimizations hit hard in terms of perf

[plucky timber]

that was when the 950 was new

in those 10 years you mostly had driver support

you're pretty much buying a card as old as the 950 but in the current day

while on paper it's still fairly decent

the lack of driver updates will really drag down the performance

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[wild crane]

Can i take my pc to best buy and see if they can fix it?

Is that something they do?

[obsidian wigeon]

was the pc bought from best buy?

if not, no

[wild crane]

Oh dang cause i cant get my pc into windows

And its not from best buy

[nova apex]

would you have any other rec?

[thorn mural]

Which one of these is the best

minus the gigabyte one

[mossy venture]

Genuinely I wouldn't purchase any of them

[thorn mural]

U have any recs for 13700k/f mobo then?

gotta be matx or itx

[mossy venture]

B760m pg sonic wifi, gaming x ax, a similar b760m

$160 is the most I'd spend for one of them ^

Also pg riptide is great

[mossy venture]

Also, have you bought any parts yet?

[fringe iris]

Not really a build but its a laptop.. im just wondering which laptop is better worth it the msi one is 800 and the hp one is 650… i really didnt think hp was a good brand so i was wondering the best advice on which one to get

[thorn mural]

Not my pc its a friends who is downsizing

[mossy venture]

Can I see whatever pcpartpicker list you're working with rn

[thorn mural]

Im still finding out what parts they have

[mossy venture]

Ah

What do you know so far?

[thorn mural]

tuf 4080 and 13700kf

trying to fit into lian li a3 matx case

i assume their psu fits and that storage + ram is already figured out

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rwHjz6

[mossy venture]

Yep, just make sure cooler fits too

Imo z1 plus is a nicer case

Or z20 in that list I linked

[thorn mural]

Ya i tried to push for jonsbo but they liked the lian li one better

[mossy venture]

Z1 plus is the mitx version iirc

[thorn mural]

lmao i didnt know there was a sonic motherboard

[mossy venture]

Also have you checked out the im01 and it's variants on newegg?

There's a new one that's basically just a mesh box and it's tiny

https://www.newegg.com/black-sama-im01-micro-atx-mini-itx/p/2AM-009W-00034

[mossy venture]

It makes your pc run faster

[thorn mural]

Im telling him that

[thorn mural]

Ill check that out

[thorn mural]

apparently they have 13900k

is the b760m gaming x ax still ok

[mossy venture]

Yeah

[thorn mural]

Thx

What would be a good cooler for that then

im not familiar with coolers for higher cpu tdp

[mossy venture]

For a 13900k you need a 360mm aio

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZRxmt7

[thorn mural]

Thank you

They have a z63 atm

[nova apex]

good laptops for Mechanical engineering tech?

[wild crane]

What is good ram to go with a b550 tomahawk max?

[runic spruce]

Asus ones

[cyan ravine]

No

[cyan ravine]

Gaming laptops. Unironically

Ideally decent specs with 32gb

8gb vram+

And a nice 6 core or better

All three things matter if you do more than light MechE stuff

[crimson zinc]

Any better/cheaper PSU + mobo?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HRMQ4M

Idk why that took forever

[thorn mural]

Ok apparently they have ddr5 and not ddr4

so the gaming x AX wont work

what are some good ddr5 options ?

[mossy venture]

Sonic

Genuinely

Basically any b760 that looks like the vrms have solid heatsinks

[mossy venture]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KHDVN6 first option

[crimson zinc]

This saves so much money

[mossy venture]

Sorry yeah I meant to do another

Got side tracked

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mR8qvj

And one more comping up for cheaper

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bzxdkJ

[nova apex]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079C8R3B2?tag=georiot-us-default-20&th=1&psc=1&ascsubtag=laptopmag-us-1143113354532209964-20&geniuslink=true

i cant find any

not very good at is

[cyan ravine]

Best buy

Try best buy

[nova apex]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-cyborg-15-6-144hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-with-8gb-ram-and-512gb-ssd-black/6532164.p?skuId=6532164

[cyan ravine]

That's not too bad

[nova apex]

especially with it being on clearance

do you think it'd be suitable for Mechanical Engineering tech?

[cyan ravine]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-slim-5-16-gaming-laptop-wuxga-ryzen-5-7640hs-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-8gb-512gb-ssd-storm-grey/6534469.p?skuId=6534469

This would be better

[nova apex]

thats probably better than my current pc

[cyan ravine]

I'd be going the slim imo

[nova apex]

yeah

its still a decent price

it looks better too in my opinion

[cyan ravine]

I think so tbh

If it has a 1x16 you could stick a second one in for 32gb ram

Solid PC in general at that point @nova apex

[nova apex]

double as gaming as well

ty for the help

really appreciate it

[cyan ravine]

All g

<MechE so uh

I gotchu fam

💀

[nova apex]

huh?

[cyan ravine]

I am from the field

So you can trust

Lol

[nova apex]

ahh

[wild crane]

My prebuilt pc cpu has drivers from 2009 how do i update them?

[obsidian wigeon]

There's no cpu drivers you need to update

CPU drivers are the microcodes stored in the bios

[wild crane]

Oh ok

If i have 1 stick of 16gb ram is that equal to 2 sticks of 8gb ram?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

while you won't run into capacity issue

you will run into bandwidth bottleneck

[wild crane]

Ok thats my problem than

[obsidian wigeon]

which will slow you down anyway

[wild crane]

My motherboard only has 2 slots can i still get dual channels?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

buy a kit

[wild crane]

Wdym?

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't recommend buying another stick of ram to add

[wild crane]

Just buy a pack of 2 you mean?

[obsidian wigeon]

you should always buy ram in a kit

yes

[wild crane]

Oh i get what your saying how do i know if the ram goes with my motherboard?

[obsidian wigeon]

DDR type

Yours should be DDR4

[wild crane]

So i have 1 stick of ddr4 so i can put any ddr 4?

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes, but speed matters

Get 3200mhz

[wild crane]

Explain?

[obsidian wigeon]

Speed is how fast your ram can transfer data

[wild crane]

Is this good?

[obsidian wigeon]

I'd get 3200mhz

But no

Corsair ddr4 is terrible

Wait, isn't the prebuilt equipped with 5600G?

Or something

[wild crane]

The cpu?

[obsidian wigeon]

Ye

[cyan ravine]

Get a basic 3200 kit

2x16

If ddr4

Don't mix

Do NOT mix ram

[wild crane]

Yes

https://www.newegg.com/ipason-s6-zhanjing/p/3D5-001U-001B3?item=9SIAZEBJ450809&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googlemkp-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googlemkp-mobile-_-pla-ipason+official-_-gaming+desktop-_-9SIAZEBJ450809&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid+shopping&utm_campaign=knc-googlemkp-mobile-_-pla-ipason+official-_-gaming+desktop-_-9SIAZEBJ450809&id0=Google&id1=19494340042&id2=147969012467&id3=&id4=&id5=pla-1876564360066&id6=&id7=9031631&id8=&id9=g&id10=m&id11=&id12=Cj0KCQjwj9-zBhDyARIsAERjds2uebXA6XX37tlWMuQ4sxptKM65sTLfcXaT85A87GRM_bIjMtp8_4QaAkNTEALw_wcB&id13=Y&id14=Y&id15=&id16=643940477437&id17=&id18=&id19=&id20=&id21=pla&id22=410241326&id23=online&id24=9SIAZEBJ450809&id25=US&id26=1876564360066&id27=&id28=&id29=&id30=5676024843140860358&id31=en&id32=&id33=&id34=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwj9-zBhDyARIsAERjds2uebXA6XX37tlWMuQ4sxptKM65sTLfcXaT85A87GRM_bIjMtp8_4QaAkNTEALw_wcB

[cyan ravine]

Ok so usa by the looks of it

Just get silicon power 3200 2x16

$51

Don't spend really any more than that as top shelf ddr5 is $83

Becomes not worth it

Or get a used 3200 2x16 32gb kit

$30-ish

[wild crane]

I found silicon power 2x16gb 3200 mhz ddr4 for 60 bucks

[cyan ravine]

That's not too bad

Wouldn't pay a cent more

[wild crane]

Ok got it thanks

Cause im tryna play a game and everytime im about to load into a match my game crashes