building-and-recc-chat

[muted shore]

What case is gud

From wire management point of view

[stoic island]

Lots of good cases, look for gn reviews when you can

[muted shore]

Gn?

[coarse python]

if you are willing to tweak a 14900k with like 8600mt/s ram then that combined with direct die cooled 14900k and 4090

[muted shore]

I meant a sane pc

[potent portal]

There's no guarantee that it works above 7200 without random instability, and you need special motherboards to get it even that high reliably

If gaming, 7800X3D does beat the 7950X3D due to dual CCD latency causing occasional stutters that hurt 1% lows.

[coarse python]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csVF_3KUY00

what i mean future performance but rn

[muted shore]

Damn 6ghz

[stoic island]

It might be a little bit worse from the extra latency but it might be better in certain cpu bound simulator games

[coarse python]

overtime i think the 7950x3d might age a bit better

[potent portal]

The ones that want raw clocks instead of cache? Yeah but that's an edge case

[potent portal]

Ryzen 5000 isn't a fair comparison since there isn't a 5950X3D

[stoic island]

Might be newer games benefiting slightly more from more cores bringing up the average score slightly more relative to everything else

But I'm not sure

[potent portal]

The CPU doesn't have any cores near max. They're running at 4k, with DLSS frame gen on, that isn't a CPU test.

[muted shore]

real

[tired bronze]

is trying a z490m, i5-10400f, hyperx 212 rbg, 2x8 3200mhz, 2 hdd, 1 ssd, 1660 super on a random, pretty old 400w psu a bad idea?

[mossy venture]

Depends on the model

Of the psu

[tired bronze]

https://www.fsplifestyle.com/en/product/Hexaplus400w.html

its this one

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H3CsGP

the whole setup is like this, and on the site it says estimated wattage would be 300w, and the psu is 400w, soo i guess it wouldnt be that bad, since the psu was working on a worse pc

[coarse python]

looks good enough although not ideal

[obsidian wigeon]

Hexa plus is a very bad psu however

That's the issue

[hot heath]

hello guys, have you ever received a mother board with the processor connector with some littel holes on it

I wish I can upload pictures to this channel ..

[obsidian wigeon]

You mean cpu power connector?

You find eps/cpu cables to connect to that

[hot heath]

no

is the plate where the processor intel goes

[obsidian wigeon]

Do you mean.. the cpu socket?

[potent portal]

That's a tier E unit so it's definitely not ideal, but you won't be loading it too much so you can probably get away with it

[potent portal]

DM it to me

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh also, I wouldn't get a 1660 super

rn for $159 you can score yourself a 6650xt

Somehow, but it's on pcpp

[tired bronze]

thats not what im buying

thats what i already have

[obsidian wigeon]

ahh

mb

[tired bronze]

i just used the site to i guess get an estimate watt usage

[obsidian wigeon]

your build will be ok with that psu

but i'd swap the psu as soon as you think about upgrades

[potent portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1253420750459768954/1253421120338657380/imagen2.jpeg

Damaged socket

Wherever you bought it from, send it back

[obsidian wigeon]

Yep

That's a damaged socket

[hot heath]

I will try to return this to newegg

but seems Im out of the return time

[obsidian wigeon]

Then you can RMA

Send it back to the manufacturer

If it's an MSI board, contact MSI and so on

[potent portal]

It's a gigabyte and he's outside the US, they haven't responded yet

[hot heath]

thanks for yor advise

[obsidian wigeon]

rip

[weary galleon]

heads up

[obsidian wigeon]

o

scam

[weary galleon]

unfortunately yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

i didn't look

i happen to throw it at someone too

i HOPE they haven't ordered it

[iron dove]

Yeah we're going. Finally got all the peripherals

Might need to review the build before we go but that can wait until tmrw

[cyan ravine]

Tell them to cancel while there's still time

[hot heath]

Do you guys think that will be a good option paying gigabyte to repair the socket,, this is the "warranty " for physical damages

Replacing the socket for 100 USD

[cyan ravine]

Why would you need to pay if it's under warranty

Warranty claim it

If it turned up that way it's not your fault

They will only offer an invoiced repair option if they think you did it

[hot heath]

thats the only "warranty""
they have

[cyan ravine]

That's not a warranty that's a repair

[hot heath]

correct

i dont understand either

[cyan ravine]

How much was the board

[hot heath]

230 aprox

[cyan ravine]

And repair for 100??

[hot heath]

loosing the MB or paying 100 to recover it

[cyan ravine]

Wtf

Send me a pic of this board socket again

[cyan ravine]

This?

@hot heath are all the pins there

See where those circled spots are

Are they filled with complete pins

[hot heath]

im trying to send you the pic

[cyan ravine]

Yeah my bad man I forgot you needed perms

It's ok I can see the socket

Are all the pins in those spots

Or are any missing or look broken

Not bent, broken

Like gone

[hot heath]

there are holes on it

[cyan ravine]

Holes

[hot heath]

seems some holes

[cyan ravine]

Like there should be something there but there's nothing?

[hot heath]

how can i send you pics

[cyan ravine]

Add me

Send another pic

Send to my dms

[hot heath]

cant upload

to your dms

sent

[cyan ravine]

Need a better picture sorry

[hot heath]

let me take a better pic

[little osprey]

ahem

[brittle tinsel]

My friend replaced his GPU and his pc still wont turn on. It doesnt even get to bios. Anyone have any ideas on how we can possibly fix this? He has to do Mandatory online classes but has no access to a pc right now.

The gpu, ram and all other lights, light up

[weary galleon]

Reseat gpu, plus power cables and ram

[tawdry agate]

I want to get Check this out on @Newegg:LIAN LI STRIMER PLUS 168-8 Addressable RGB VGA power cable PW168-8PV2 ---- Strimer plus 168-8(1Year Warranty) https://www.newegg.com/p/1W7-00BS-00082?Item=9SIA1K6JY40337&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIA1K6JY40337-_-06212024 will it work with a 4080?

Please help I know it work for 4090 but does it work will alll 40 series?

[neon condor]

If it works on a 4090 I’d stick to that, if you want to know for sure send the seller a message to verify

I’ve never used that exact one

[tawdry agate]

Okay good idea

[earnest olive]

4080 and 4090 are powered by the same connector

it'll work

[analog hearth]

Crazy to think that all Nvidia GPUs now use the same power connector

[coarse python]

No

My 4060ti 16gb msi slim doesn't

Uses a single 8pin

[analog hearth]

Ok lol

[sinful prawn]

thank you

that peaches is my phone, it let me in last night but then kicke dme cause i dont have my phone verified

[copper isle]

hello chat just wondering if anyone has something similar to this build and any comments or reviews is appreciated
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero,
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5-6000 CL30,
Monitor: Samsung G7 32"
CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K,
GPU: ASUS ROG Strix RTX 4070 Ti Super,
Case: Corsair 7000D,
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix,
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x 850W 80+ Gold,
Primary Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB NVMe SSD,
GPU Support Bracket: UpHere Graphics Card GPU Brace Support

[crimson zinc]

@cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

I would change all of that

@copper isle

If I tally up the rough numbers in my head, that should be enough for a 4090 build almost

Comes to about 2400-ish before the monitor if I'm not mistaken

nvm I didn't see the rog card

Yeah this should be a 4090 class budget here

Yep $2900

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xR6Mh3

I can absolutely fix this

I think I can even stick to the intel cpu here

It's just going to fit

Like barely

Yep here we go

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H2Nnfy @copper isle

Exact same specs, but 4090

No loss in quality or performance anywhere

[copper isle]

if i keep the 4070 what performance potential would i lose?

just its so much more epxensive from teh 4070 vs the 4090

espeically when i'm from #WeTheNorth

[cyan ravine]

Well given what you wanted to spend, I made it cheaper

Both lists are 2900

So it's more of a question do you want to spend 2900?

Because we can size this down to something a lot more budget friendly

Which starts with the question: What is this pc being used for?

[copper isle]

upgrading from my current rig thats running the RX580 building a fresh new gaming rig for black myth wukong,
but really behind the scenes i plan to use it for development work, and some 3D rednering, and wanted to make sure that i future proof it for at least next 5 years or more if possible

the last rig i built was back in 2018

[cyan ravine]

It's really hard to stress the idea of "Future-proofing"

Just this year, Nvidia unveiled blackwell, which is supposed to be multiple magnitudes faster than older generation architecture due to ai acceleration

And with "AI" being dumped into everything now, a lot of current gen could become quickly outdated with the way AI features might become mainstream

There's also revolutions in CAMM memory, Fibre optics

A lot could happen in 5 years and suddenly any pc bought today is completely outmoded

Future-proofing is a buzzword most people who help with these things can't really get behind

But I will say this

For dev work, and a bit of 3D rendering, a 13900K is plain overkill

Hell, 64GB is

Unless this was your future career path doing high production, I would say you can definitely afford some trimming here

Now, I'm going to make a list, with what I think can be sized down here

I will aim for 1 of 4 GPUs

7900 XT
7900 XTX
4080 Super
4070 Super

The rest in that price class are terrible value

[copper isle]

ic makes sense

[cyan ravine]

I'm going to make this a gaming first build, but even with that said, this will handle the other stuff quite competently

[copper isle]

Thank You

the CPU cooler and the Memory from the 2090 looks like not avaialble prices in the canadian market

[cyan ravine]

Yeah we really won't need a liquid cooler with what I have in mind

Hell a stock cooler will run this cpu

Lol

@copper isle like rgb?

[copper isle]

its not a must

like it but not priority to it

[cyan ravine]

It's a few dollars

Yes or no lol

[copper isle]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

Alr

@copper isle Are you interested in custom cables or just staying with stock psu cables

[copper isle]

stock PSU cables

[cyan ravine]

Ok

[copper isle]

the room i have this rig running is is kinda hot cause the AC flow to is not great so thats just an extra concern

[cyan ravine]

Next question, do you like the idea of an OLED

[copper isle]

yes

[cyan ravine]

Ok last question, what's the highest you want to spend ideally

I will change a number of things depending on your answer

[copper isle]

CDN roughly 4k excluding Monitor since already have that

sinc ei picked up the G7 last year

[cyan ravine]

Ok I'm way under 4 grand

Lol

Oh you did?

Ok question

Which G7

Is it the curved one or the 4K one

[copper isle]

G70B 4k

LS32BG702ENXGO

[cyan ravine]

Ok so this is really 4090 territory honestly

Yeah 4K 144 is a perfect match tbh

One moment

[copper isle]

k

i have 2 side monitors however just fyi those are normal 1920/1080p monitors curved Samsung white ones 32" from before just for the esthetics to match the desk color

[cyan ravine]

First suggestion

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9GgX6D

[languid nimbus]

this has been a very productive chat and I wish all of them were this simple and easy so each of you get an award

[cyan ravine]

Second

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PJQz34

[languid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/abby-wambach-trophy-award-gif-14343492

[cyan ravine]

3rd

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qPTwBL

4th

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N77YxH

2nd and 3rd are like, barely scraping it in @copper isle , speaking from 1st hand experience

Highly encourage the 4090 for a screen like that or buy a second one and use the G7 for movies and other stuff

[copper isle]

ic basically what you mean by that is the size of the card and the space with the case right

[cyan ravine]

I mean by the power of the card

4K144 is tough to run

But a 4090 can definitely do it

The rest aren't quite all there

You can use FSR/DLSS but the result is a middling 4K experience with less imo

[copper isle]

ic let me look through all these builds

[cyan ravine]

Alr

[copper isle]

Thank y ou so much info to digest

[cyan ravine]

1st suggestion is pretty much where I'd land

4th suggestion is workhorse version (Without the intel degradation risk)

There's one more suggestion, if you were open to relegating or even selling the monitor, one sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tK9TL9
https://www.amazon.com/KTC-Monitor-Speakers-FreeSync-DisplayPort1-4/dp/B0CF2FD5P4/

Would argue this is a nicer display tbh anyway

@copper isle lmk if you have any questions

Omg I forgot to swap the 7950x3d in the last list hold on

Ok fixed it LOL

[copper isle]

Thank you so much for your advice and the lists of suggested builds.
I think I will go for the 4090 Card
these are the items I already have bought but literally yesterday cause i saw a Discount on the Mobo for $160 Off at Newegg and $20 off the RAM at Canada Comp.

If i return the Mobo this would be the build i'm thinking of https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/htv6wg
if i keep the Mobo then it goes up dramatically the cost with less components https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vCG3xH which i'm trying to find ways to shave $

@cyan ravine but your lists helps so much i'm just wondering how the Storage of Teamgroup fairs in terms of reliablity

[cyan ravine]

Oh crap I'm sorry mate I forgot you were talking in CAD my bad

Let me just double check everything

[vale epoch]

Bro that monitor has a fat discount

[cyan ravine]

Better than the Samsung's honestly

[copper isle]

ye np Canada sucks on PC builds cause they are so much more expensive

[cyan ravine]

Ye that's why I linked it

KTC OLED is OP

[vale epoch]

If i went with a gre build i could have afforded it

[cyan ravine]

Hey man

Wait a few months

[vale epoch]

Now i have a cheap msi ips monitor

[cyan ravine]

That OLED is always on sale

[vale epoch]

Really?

Stops crying

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it goes on sale like every 2nd week

KTC is goated

It has a KVM and USBC PD

[vale epoch]

Btw what happened to the mini led news?

[copper isle]

ohhh good to know i'll be looking for a monitor upgrade for the wife soonish

[vale epoch]

Whats kvm?

[cyan ravine]

It's basically a switch that lets you swap the keyboard and mouse plugged in to different systems

Say you had your pc, a laptop and an xbox

Plug it into the monitor

You can swap between them (Most only do 2 at any time)

Same mouse and keyboard for all

It only needs a usb and hdmi plugged in

Ok back to the lists...

[vale epoch]

Damn

Sounds convenient

[copper isle]

ohhh ye my old rig i'll probablly eventually get a KVM switch not sure yet cause the old rig i can always just RDP

repoulating it for file server setting up openVPN at home

and going to secure it

and open access from my aws only.

also FYI will do development work on this new rig so have some VM's potentially running on it thats why i originally was going for the i9 13900k

[cyan ravine]

Ah ok

How many VM's @copper isle and what's the spread

How many cores per

This matters as I will dramatically change my suggestion depending on how you'll be doing this and whether linux is involved

@copper isle u there mate?

Well I have probably 3 lists https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qj32dH

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xr2FVW

These first two I would base on light VM use at most

Reason being is you get massive complications from X3D, e cores, and most of all nvidia on linux

Last option is for heavy VM and linux use

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/nFFfWt

And yes, I'm saying return the board and ram if not too late

Frankly just not worth it tbh

Go and support your local memory express if you can, they're in severe financial straits and if you can see one of these options for a similar price from them, you'll do them a solid to support your local business

They recently shut down several stores, down to their last one now

@copper isle also please don't hesitate to ask any questions or discuss any requests in the build

[copper isle]

sorry i went to teh basement um maybe 1 or 2

vms

sorry

it will most likely be bare windows vm' x1 and x1 linux vm

[cyan ravine]

2 vms how many cores

Honestly the ryzen one might just be easy af cos you can just split the ccd or do 12+4

Even the X3D would work if you're only doing 2 vm's

If you need to do more though I would seriously consider 7950X or better yet, 9950X when it releases in a couple weeks

[copper isle]

ie so time to refund this mobo cause i can see that reducing my Watts required + i can run with out an AIO cooler

okay let me look throught htis list

[cyan ravine]

Yeah the Ryzen will be much lower power

[copper isle]

Thank you

[cyan ravine]

Np

Sorry I completely missed Canada earlier lol

Thankfully a lot of the good picks translate over well, just in slight variations

And you get the PX-G PSU

Which afaik comes with sleeved cables stock

Nice plus there

Like a $150 custom cable kit for $20 extra basically

[jagged radish]

Hey, I’m building my PC up tonight- what’s the correct way to build it together? MOBO, CPU, 2 RAM sticks, M.2, 4 SSD, 2 HDD, AIOx2, GPU, and PSU are the pieces in my build.

[dusky hearth]

preassemble main parts on the mobo box; take out the mobo, and put it on the mobo box, and put in the cpu, then ram, m.2 ssds
you can test to make sure the build works (just put the cooler on the cpu and see if it POSTS), or skip this step
ensure the standoffs are correctly placed in the case for your mobo size, then put in the psu into the case, and run the cables, then take your motherboard, and connect the EPS power (cpu power) cable, and put in the mobo without forgetting your IO shield if it is not the type that is attached to the mobo (you may want to lay the case down so gravity works in your favor)

[jagged radish]

Thank you

[dusky hearth]

then plug in the rest of the cables for your fans and the 24 pin power, and also your front panel io, and you can install the hdds at this point (though you might want to wait for this so you dont have to figure out which drive you want to install windows to)

but once most of the internal stuff is out of the way, you can install the cpu heatsink and gpu since those might block your hands

[drifting timber]

anyone try asus btf products?

[cyan ravine]

It's what you expect

Don't get the GPU though

It works exclusively with asus and it's a terrible idea

You want to change motherboard or sell it? Well well well

Let's take a look at the 0.01% market share we have over here

💀

[drifting timber]

why do you feel its a terrible idea

[cyan ravine]

BTF gpu's work with only Asus motherboards

So

If you want to resell, you will only have a handful of people in existence with a board that accepts them

If you want to change motherboard either, you're stuck to the asus ecosystem

It's a terrible idea as you bind yourself to a very expensive proprietary ecosystem

It's not a universal thing, it's an Asus based product and patent

[drifting timber]

well ya i dont ever plan to resell and i dont like cables

[cyan ravine]

If that justifies it for you then go for it. It's very expensive though, crazy expensive

[drifting timber]

ya thats the other problem

plus low stock

[cyan ravine]

This

You're completely bound to their ecosystem

[drifting timber]

ya

i just really liked the look without the cables i hate the look of cables lol

[cyan ravine]

There's better ways to go about this

[drifting timber]

what ya think to do then?

[cyan ravine]

There are gpus that use non-proprietary methods of hiding cables

[drifting timber]

hmm

got some link of something i can look into?

[cyan ravine]

And MSI has project zero motherboards which are not proprietary

[drifting timber]

hmm

[cyan ravine]

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/colorfuls-new-rtx-40-series-gpus-hide-the-power-cable-under-the-backplate

[drifting timber]

i guess the other question is should i wait for 5000 series since 4000 has been out for a while

[cyan ravine]

https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/msi-project-zero-how-to-build-a-pc-and-vaporize-almost-all-the-cables

[drifting timber]

ohh ok so minimal cable look i see what you mean

[cyan ravine]

Yes only one cable

[drifting timber]

well thats not bad but i still like no cable at all lol

[cyan ravine]

We don't know when next gen is releasing, latest rumour is next year

[cyan ravine]

Check the article above

[drifting timber]

ohh ok

thx

[cyan ravine]

Colourful having hidden cables

Asus BTF

You can achieve the same results without spending both nearly as much for one, but also not being stuck in an ecosystem without an easy way of reselling or swapping out

[drifting timber]

what gpu would you buy? 4090 4080 super 4070 etc?

[cyan ravine]

Idk how much money is in your wallet mate

💀

[drifting timber]

well havent decided on a budget yet

but if it was you what would you get

[cyan ravine]

Ok well, what's your pc goal here

[drifting timber]

gaming vms

[cyan ravine]

I have 1000 answers for 1000 goals

Ok

What level of gaming

give me a resolution

give me an fps

[drifting timber]

umm

probably ultrawide over 60fps

[cyan ravine]

ultrawide what resolution

[drifting timber]

3840x1600

[cyan ravine]

So 1440p basically

UW basically

[drifting timber]

ya

[cyan ravine]

So lets say

AW3423DWF monitor

That's around $700 $800-ish is the pick on that

Would you want to spend that much yes or no

[drifting timber]

ya

[cyan ravine]

Ok I know what I'd make

@drifting timber how new are you to pc building

[drifting timber]

not new

[cyan ravine]

Ok so would you entertain dual ccd ryzen

[drifting timber]

perhaps

[cyan ravine]

How many VMs

[drifting timber]

20+

[cyan ravine]

💀

Can we curb it a bit

[drifting timber]

ya

[vocal hare]

Huh this mobo has two standoffs pre installed

For m.2

[cyan ravine]

How many vms

[drifting timber]

ok how about 10

[cyan ravine]

10 ok

[vocal hare]

Never run into this before should I just move that extra standoff down?

It just weird that it came with three preinstalled when the mobo only has two slots

[cyan ravine]

unscrew it if not needed yeah

[vocal hare]

I assume it’s because people might have a 2260

But like I can’t remember do they usually come with extras?

God I need to find some pliers

[cyan ravine]

phillips head

Use phillips

[vocal hare]

Nvm I’m dumb yeah

I’m so used to thumb standoffs

[drifting timber]

any thoughts on cosrair icue link ecosystem?

[dusky hearth]

icue sucks

[drifting timber]

icue link not the software i mean

[cyan ravine]

Currently scanning every gpu on sale for hidden connector lmao

[drifting timber]

ya

but wondering about the hardware they make it look clean

[cyan ravine]

You can hide cables without paying $50 per fan

[drifting timber]

ya

[cyan ravine]

iCue and iCue link especially are disgustingly expensive

[drifting timber]

true

[cyan ravine]

I might let you down on the hidden gpu connector here

I haven't found, not just one that's worth it, rather, any at all

[drifting timber]

ohh

[cyan ravine]

Ok yeah

@drifting timber I scanned the entire selection on PCPP

Found none

[drifting timber]

ohh

[cyan ravine]

If you can live with just the gpu, this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vyrHHG

Use 10 threads for your separate VMs on CCD2

Kind of like Intel with e cores if that makes sense

Use the remaining 2 on CCD2 and the X3D CCD1 for your main system

[drifting timber]

thank you

[cyan ravine]

The 7900XT will be great for linux anyway

Much better than Nvidia honestly

Most linux people I talked to, AMD is the play for linux, so this would be good for VMs

You'd use process lasso for managing your CCD's

Or if it's seeming a bit snug, go up to 7950X/7950X3D

Which would need a new cooler for the 7950X, one sec

[drifting timber]

thank you

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4VP6wg

7900X works as well, just depends how particular you want to be

Oh yeah the ram one sec

I put too little ram

Fixed them both @drifting timber

[drifting timber]

great

[cyan ravine]

Last note, consider a larger SSD like NM790 4TB if you need more storage for containers

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CX3NnQ/kingspec-xg7000-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-xg-7000-4tb

^this

If you believe you need it

[drifting timber]

how do you feel about a 2x48GB kit?

[cyan ravine]

Compatibility is annoying

[drifting timber]

ohh

[cyan ravine]

Stay clear of over 64gb unless you really need it

[drifting timber]

it is easy to gover over 64GB but i could manage to stay below it

[cyan ravine]

If you can stay under, you'll have a good day on both intel or amd here

[drifting timber]

ya

[cyan ravine]

Otherwise consider another platform, one without a BTF motherboard

[drifting timber]

ya it was just tempting that super clean look

[cyan ravine]

BTF isn't available for DDR4 afaik which would do over 64

This will be clean

You'll have 1, maybe 2 cables visible at most

[drifting timber]

ya

[cyan ravine]

Cpu pump/fan and GPU cable

cable(s)

[drifting timber]

ya its too damn expensive like you said the btf stuff

[cyan ravine]

Idk, is that build too expensive what I suggested

We got just under 2K

[drifting timber]

thats fine i meant the btf build

[cyan ravine]

w/o monitor

Ye ik

I'm asking separate to that

Lol

[drifting timber]

lol

ya that price is fine

are you into gaming?

[cyan ravine]

I mostly work these days

Games haven't been fun for a long time imo

Lol

[drifting timber]

understandable i know what you mean

[cyan ravine]

Waiting for that new Doom game that got announced

First time in a while I'm a bit hyped

[drifting timber]

awesome

if you got some free time there is fps game called shatterline its free to play on steam its pretty good

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah I am a real halo/doom fanatic

[drifting timber]

cool

[cyan ravine]

Last fps games I played seriously

hmm

Doom eternal, Destiny 2, Halo Infinite/MCC

Was playing them all around the same time

Love reach though

[drifting timber]

ohh ya i didnt get around to playing those

you ever try that micorosft game pass thing for pc

[vocal hare]

Damn ran out of alcohol wipes

Welp time to bust out the bottle

[dusky hearth]

alcohol wipes?

[cyan ravine]

I only really use one or two at the end tbh

I do most of the paste with paper towels that don't rip

[vocal hare]

I just folded a paper towel and dabbed some 70% iso

Blew off any residue

Put my greasy fingers on the ihs but it wasn’t like I was cleaning paste off

Okay testing time

[lone flame]

@cyan ravine questions. soon.

[dusky hearth]

???

soon?

[iron dove]

So I'm back after a bit. About a month ago we were talking in here about making a pc build for primarily gaming/a bit of mechE stuff like solidworks, we decided on something like this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GHw7N6

It needs updated because the graphics card isn't up anymore

[lone flame]

imo I recommended him the 7800x3d, we are going to microcenter tomorrow to grab some stuff

(we are friends irl if that wasnt clear lol)

@cyan ravine @potent portal @mossy venture any of you available to help? I believe you guys did last time with traut

would be appreciated

[cyan ravine]

I believe I probably mentioned this at the time but prices change dramatically in a month

[iron dove]

Yeah I knew that at the time. Just didn't have the cash yet

[cyan ravine]

Question

I forgot why we picked pop air

[iron dove]

We didn't, I just threw that in there since I changed my mind on the case. A simple black one should do

[cyan ravine]

Ok I'm of two minds here

[iron dove]

The case is flexible is what i mean to say

[cyan ravine]

Need a second

[iron dove]

take your time

[cyan ravine]

Yeah ok I think at the time it made more sense

But not now

I'm adjusting things

What's the maximum budget of this

[iron dove]

1750$ range

[cyan ravine]

before or after tax

[iron dove]

I'm willing to go before

[cyan ravine]

Up to you

Small change if before or after

[iron dove]

Before then

[cyan ravine]

Ok

[iron dove]

I want to make something that'll last for a bit, be able to play some new stuff so I'm willing to pay

[cyan ravine]

How much is tax

Sorry

[lone flame]

as in like

sales tax

[cyan ravine]

%

Ye whatever it all adds up to

[lone flame]

percent of budget or how much it actually is

[cyan ravine]

How much in %

[lone flame]

sales tax in ohio is 5.75% according to google

but it changes where you go idk'

[cyan ravine]

So about $75

maybe 80

[iron dove]

that can be managed

[cyan ravine]

How adverse are you to radeon here

Like it's not solidwork's best suit but it's still great

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/geforce-gif-26172654

[iron dove]

Company stuff is likely what I'll mainly be working on, it's not a problem

[lone flame]

he means amd vs nvidia for the gpu i believe

[cyan ravine]

ye

[iron dove]

I don't need maximum output for solidworks, it's just a lil something on the side

[cyan ravine]

mmmmmmm

Can you stretch over 1750

Before tax LOL

[iron dove]

If its for the good stuff then yeah

[lone flame]

if he does a cpu/mobo/ram bundle

[cyan ravine]

For the good stuff yeah

[lone flame]

it might bring it down a bit

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wj6hQP

Can always cut down to 1TB but it's a bit too modest for a build like this imo

Like you could do this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3DP6wg

[lone flame]

theres also these bundles if that makes any sense

[cyan ravine]

It's a difficult call, the reason is, the 14700KF is definitely better, but it's $140 more

13700KF is 50 more for 2 more e cores

14700KF having 6 more

By value it's not great tho

Along with 2 more P cores I guess

Actually 13700KF kinda makes sense but you need to stretch

[cyan ravine]

It's 32gb tho

Like 32gb is ok, but for the caliber of work machine it's underwhelming

If this was pure gaming sure

[lone flame]

hello amd fanboy here, would ryzen make any sense at all for this

[cyan ravine]

Not really

Yes and no

It's more a value thing

[languid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/bober-pe-persistant-empires-bober-womp-womp-gif-9817047649399473190

[iron dove]

Right now I'm thinking we ball, but I should probably sleep on this

[cyan ravine]

Like if I did 32gb here, and we assumed you overclocked this 13600K to high heaven, it would do 7800X3D numbers no problem

And be similar price

But also be better in his engineering stuff

[lone flame]

i thought 7800x3d was decent for productivity

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it is

[lone flame]

i may be wrong idk

[cyan ravine]

Thing is 13600K isn't affected by the intel problems

And for the price it's going for here, it's comparable

It's an equivalent price not more

And performance can be equivalent in games

If there was a 7800X3D combo like the above one with 64GB I'd say that's considerable

Hell a 9700X would make a lot of sense here

Adding up the 13th gen list with 32gb I break at $5 cheaper than the 7800X3D

[cyan ravine]

mmmmm

It's still 32gb

[lone flame]

theyre all 32

[cyan ravine]

Mmmm

[lone flame]

i mean if ram is something he really needs more of down the road

[cyan ravine]

No adding more isn't an option

[lone flame]

im not gonna speak too much for him idk

[cyan ravine]

Don't entertain that lol

[lone flame]

💀

nvm i guess

[cyan ravine]

Look 32 is arguably fine

[iron dove]

lot to think about

[cyan ravine]

I would say 64 would be great overall tho

[jagged radish]

I have 2 ram sticks where do I install them to this board. Page 26 https://download.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGB550TOMAHAWK.pdf

I have DIMMA1 DIMMA2 DIMMB1 DIMMB2 as options.

[iron dove]

For now doc thanks

[cyan ravine]

Picture these two options @iron dove

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ymbvMV

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qf3CxH

Along with this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3DP6wg

That's sort of how I'm tiering it out in my head rn

Like depending on what you want to spend here imo

I would argue the 13600KF list is probably objective best here

If not 13700KF if you can stretch

13600KF is faster in multithread, and it can be had for a comparable price with 64gb instead of 32gb

Can be overclocked to near 7800X3D performance

[iron dove]

Maybe the first one. I'm willing to go up a bit for that power, but I gotta think about it

[cyan ravine]

Yeah the 4080S is a huge jump

Or

*Or

13700KF, 7900XTX

Near equivalence but more value

[lone flame]

4080s is a beast

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RZ6hQP

Tiny bit more than the 13600KF list

But objectively speaking you benefit the extra cores

Pay $100 you kinda get $100 in performance

The catch 22 is intel's degradation issues with 13700KF

13600K is kinda under the radar on that one, unlike the i7's

[cyan ravine]

This is probably the best imo

$30 for nvidia compatibility options is a cop tbh

No more than that tho

But you could sneak in an xtx

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8bqs28

Would say that's also nice, but you take L's and W's in different places

[lone flame]

imo whatever you do you'll be able to run anything

[cyan ravine]

Like really yeah

It's going to be nice in pretty much whatever

[lone flame]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vzqs28 this is also good imo

i changed the prices so itd fit that bundle and put a 4080s there instead of 4070s

[cyan ravine]

Omg I'm dumb I didn't fix the prices for the X3D list I made

[iron dove]

I'm feeling good about the 1800$ intel one. That one seems like it'll fit me pretty nice

[lone flame]

yeah i noticed lol youre good

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qf3CxH

Fixed lol

[cyan ravine]

Yeah that's good too honestly

It's just intel is loved in workstation stuff like this

So the advantage goes more to intel tbh

You could make the case for AM5 having an upgrade path tho

[lone flame]

^

[cyan ravine]

There's a couple things you should weigh up objectively here

[iron dove]

Tough stuff.

[cyan ravine]

That vs this I think

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wj6hQP

If I'm reading it right

[iron dove]

Feeling these

[cyan ravine]

If you didn't need wifi or massive storage/io options or overclocking, I could cut the intel list down more

[iron dove]

Wifi is an absolute must

[cyan ravine]

What about OC

[iron dove]

Probably won't

[cyan ravine]

Ok

How adverse are you to programming an XMP yourself

It's 7 numbers, takes 5 minutes

[iron dove]

The engineer part of me says "no sweat"

[cyan ravine]

Lol fair enough

[iron dove]

Though it wouldnt be the first time my hubris has brought me to my knees before lol

[cyan ravine]

Does the look of the ram worry you

depending on how it looks

Obviously working lmao

[cyan ravine]

Real

[iron dove]

Ain't no problem if we're talking about how they physically look

[cyan ravine]

Ok we got two options then

Naked or metal sink

The latter obv bit better for $9

[iron dove]

Go with the better one

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hzBmt7

This is to make 2TB fit pretty much

It's not quite up to the same quality, but it's very close

I would say $40 well spent tbh

And you could do XTX and it's under 1750 clear

Sorry 5 over, if we don't pick the merc

Merc puts it 5 under

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8d3CxH

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XP23xH

Performance of all 4 of the last ones are all comparable tbh

[iron dove]

I can cough up more for a better case lol

[cyan ravine]

Oh no I meant more the psu and ssd

The case is a lian li oem

It's a good one

I wouldn't say it's bad vs the air 903

The drop to B760 is a bit of a downgrade tho, but still perfectly fine

Again, something you'd weigh up

Not really losing anything

Just things that don't matter

[iron dove]

I'm feeling pretty good about all this stuff but I gotta sleep on it

[cyan ravine]

Shed weight so to speak

Alr

Just uh, act on it soon lol

Otherwise the list will change again

[iron dove]

Thanks for the help. You da man

[cyan ravine]

Sales come and go

All good

[iron dove]

Tomorrow at the latest. Gavin and I will hit up microcenter and see whats up and ill get the rest when i come back. Hopefully it doesn't change that fast

[cyan ravine]

Sounds good

[lone flame]

also felix rq

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hF4MxH

is this fine for a case swap

i think its the same since last time

[cyan ravine]

I think you'll maybe find stuff at MC but you need to look and ask

[lone flame]

i might get the h6 tmr

[cyan ravine]

moneymoneymoneymoneymoney

What about Sky two

[lone flame]

idk ive always like h6

want a bit more airflow for my 6950 as well

[cyan ravine]

I think you could save a lot here honestly

Wait what psu are you using

@lone flame

[lone flame]

rm750e

[cyan ravine]

Stick with it

[lone flame]

pretty sure its faulty something whines in my pc

and i think its that

[cyan ravine]

Warranty it then lol

[lone flame]

idk how

i ordered it from best buy

picked it up from there

[cyan ravine]

Take to best buy packed in box

[lone flame]

and for some reason

[cyan ravine]

"It's got a terrible whine"

[lone flame]

it took me forever to get back into my best buy

[cyan ravine]

RMA

[lone flame]

account

and it receipt wasnt in there

as in like

proof of purchasse

[cyan ravine]

Surely you have something

Email

[lone flame]

no

[cyan ravine]

text

[lone flame]

i remember i checked

its really werid

i can look again tmr

[cyan ravine]

I would contact bb

That's

[lone flame]

yeah idk

[cyan ravine]

You have no warranty without proof of purchase

That's really bad

[lone flame]

yeah idk i remember i contacted them to get me back into my account

that was last fall

[cyan ravine]

Also consider this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wfYJL9

[lone flame]

my password i know i used was wrong

[cyan ravine]

Sky two comes with a fan controller too

So it's more like a 60 or 50 dollar case with extras

Or you could do H5 flow

If you really want NZXT\

Oh yeah montech king 95 is there too

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WHYJL9

Just objectively better honestly

[lone flame]

mk ty

[cyan ravine]

Hmu when H6 hits like $80 then we can talk H6 lol

It did that last week in Germany iirc

[obsidian wigeon]

woa

[lone flame]

It is @iron dove gpu

I went with him to microcenter today we are friends irl

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

[lone flame]

Felix helped us out with some lists last night

[wide sparrow]

Cool cool

[manic cloak]

Kinda found out my Lian Li 205 Mesh’s top fan likes to uhhh squeal?

I guess when it’s at a slightly higher RPM than stock

Is there anyway I could fix this? Btw it doesn’t squeal when I have it at any higher

[open jungle]

i made the discovery that i built my pc to fight itself

i had the wrong idea of how the 3080 FE's airflow was

[mossy venture]

Am I crazy or is this missing something

Mobo bought used, that black bracket was already there

[stoic island]

Isn't the black bracket the bracket for the bundled wraith coolers

[mossy venture]

I happen to have one laying around and looks like you're right

[mossy venture]

Actually doesn't look like it is

Cooler won't fit

[crimson zinc]

Give

[lone flame]

@cyan ravine 🤘

[weary galleon]

Fancontrol or Argus Monitor maybe. Could set the curve to either stay above/below that value or jump over it really quickly

[manic cloak]

True but is there like anything else I could do ig? Is it even possible to wd-40 a fan without cracking it in 2

[weary galleon]

I doubt it would be viable to physically fix that kind of thing

[obsidian wigeon]

^

It will come back again as the added lube will wear out

It's as good as trash

[weary galleon]

it's not necessarily parts rubbing together, it may be like a resonance of the motor or something like that

also not to be that guy but wd40 isn't a lubricant 🤓 👆

It's an easy rust remover and will work as lube in a pinch, but i wouldn't use it in a pc fan

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[manic cloak]

Nah

Wd-40 fixes everything

totally

[obsidian wigeon]

Oil leak? WD-40 Head gasket blew up? WD-40

[potent portal]

If it's sticking and it shouldn't be, WD-40.
If it's slipping and it's not supposed to be, duct tape.

Doesn't work? Use more until it does

[obsidian wigeon]

And everything may or may not blow up

[potent portal]

If it blows up you didn't use enough

[obsidian wigeon]

Ha

[potent portal]

The failure is yours, not the tool

[final dew]

https://newegg.io/9c76412a is there anything wrong w this build

pretty unfamiliar with whats good or should be avoided

and if im bottlenecking myself

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T8hkN6

The aio very much isn't needed

I only added it since I figured you wanted one with an lcd display. A $35 air cooler would do the same thing

Can bring it down to $1850 and see almost no difference
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cQjZMV

[cyan ravine]

#general-chat

💀

[mossy venture]

Ah

[dusky hearth]

Wd40 is not a lubricant
Or rather, it isn't meant to be used as a long term lubricant, it's only really good for cleaning off old grease and getting bolts out

You want low viscosity machine oil

Also it's not worth the effort of fixing a sleeve or rifle bearing case fan

Especially if it's already squeaking

You could extend the life of a rifled or sleeve bearing fan by adding oil occasionally before it starts making noise

[dusky hearth]

Also yeah the black bracket there comes with every am4 mobo and it's for some cpu coolers
Specifically the wraith prism (comes with ryzen 7)
The lower end wraiths don't use that 😅

Also there are some 3rd party coolers that use that mount

[mossy venture]

Ah makes sense

[dusky hearth]

Can't think of any off the top of my head though

[mossy venture]

The stock cooler I had lying around was for a 3600

[dusky hearth]

Oops

Didn't copy the image lol

Wraith prism

[pallid relic]

Can I plug an extra case fan into the SYS_FAN 1 thing on my motherboard?

[stoic island]

Yes

[runic spruce]

I forgot amd had cool stock coolers

[crimson zinc]

I need a little help with deciding on a list for him

In £

[wary gale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vsyg6D good build?

Going for more aesthetic than performance but still a good amount of performance budget 1700

[stoic island]

Get a ballpark number like 500, 1000, or 1500 as their max

Then someone can make a list

[stoic island]

Aio is kinda overkill for a 7600x

[wary gale]

Would my pc be hella quiet

[stoic island]

There's a minimum amount of noise from the pump either way

Like it's going to make noise even if it doesn't need to cool much

[mossy venture]

Boop
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zsbLZJ

You can do quieter than that aio

[stoic island]

But yea if you really want an aio, grab a thermalright aio and save your money at least

[wary gale]

Thx but would it be worth it to swap to a 7800/3d

[mossy venture]

Yes

[wary gale]

Wouldn’t the 7800/3d bottleneck the gpu tho or no

[dusky hearth]

Everything can bottleneck

Depends on the application

But in games, the GPU usually is the bottleneck

[dusky hearth]

And res you're rendering at for games

[wary gale]

I’m at 1080p for now but I might go to 1440p

[dusky hearth]

Hmm

Cpu may be a bottleneck in that case

Not that it would matter since you'll be pushing hundreds of fps most likely

Would fare better in 1440 tho

[wary gale]

I run low and mid settings on games btw

Only put stuff on high if I’m playing like a insane graphics game

Bc most esports games their graphics aren’t crazy

[dusky hearth]

You can put your games on high pretty much especially at 1080p ☠️

[crimson zinc]

£800

[wary gale]

My goal is to get 360 fps in siege

Rainbow six siege

With my 2060 rn I’m getting 180

[wary gale]

Is this a pure performance build?

[dusky hearth]

I wouldn't really say so

Its black themed

Though not anti-rgb themed

More like dark with RGB themed

[mossy venture]

Bottleneck as a term is horrible

Getting a better cpu won't limit your gpu

It means your gpu has more cpu headroom before the cpu hits 100% usage

So the gpu is more likely to hit it's limit before the cpu does

[obsidian wigeon]

And having a fast cpu means you'll never run into hiccups and stutters

It's better to have a gpu limitation

Rather than cpu limitation

[dusky hearth]

It's near impossible to have no bottlenecks
Only applications designed specifically to use 100% of all of a specific hardware configuration could have basically no bottlenecks

[coarse python]

you have to run multiple applications for that

furmark+prime95+crystal diskmark all at the same time to even hit the ssd

[crimson zinc]

@mossy venture

[crimson zinc]

.

[lone flame]

What are CPU cables labeled as from a PSU

Like the ones that go in the top left of the board

[solar fossil]

Guys, for the life of me I can’t create a bootable USB drive from my 2012 MacBook Pro. I download the 64 but iso file for windows 11 and then my boot camp assistant tells me that it can’t use it. I tried following YouTube videos to copy and paste it over and split the source files using wimlib on terminal but I have issues because my OS is ancient and Apple stopped giving it updates. Anyone have suggestions ?

[lone flame]

Like does this work

[sacred obsidian]

Yeah that's where the CPU cables go

[sacred obsidian]

how did you try making it?

[sacred obsidian]

try this tool and see if it works:

1. Download Windows 11.iso from the official website: https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11

2. Get a 8GB+ USB Flash Drive

3. Run WinDiskWriter on your Mac (if you cant, please follow the instructions: https://github.com/TechUnRestricted/windiskwriter/issues/4)

4. Choose your Windows Image .iso and required USB drive

5. Click “Start”
   -from user twikoffin on reddit

[lone flame]

I don’t know where the front rgb connectors for the lancool 2 mesh c are

[sacred obsidian]

are you looking for the wire from the case or the headers on the mobo?

[solar fossil]

Oh my gosh I should have came here hours ago. Thank you a much it worked

[sacred obsidian]

lol I'm glad. I just did a quick google and picked one that look like it might work cause I also have a 2012 macbook and trying to get anything to work on it was a pain

@vale epoch a bit to late but I apparently did find a way to make a bootable windows from mac that might've ended up working for you lol. I know you already passed it but might be good to save for the future.

[lone flame]

Both

[sacred obsidian]

ok so usually when a case comes with RGB fans it will have a RGB controller on the back side (opposite side of where you put in mobo)

if that controller has an RGB plug to put in the mobo, it depends on your mobo where or if it has a slot for that.

so looking up the case, it looks like it should come with an RGB controllerbuilt in that should connect to your mobo. you'll either find it on the back, or with your front I/O wires possibly. Should say something about RGB on it I would think'

[lone flame]

It didn’t from what I saw

Mobo is a TUF gaming b650e

[sacred obsidian]

ok have you plugged the fan power cables in yet

[lone flame]

Build is done besides that

Did a test boot and there was no rgb

It is @iron dove’s I am helping him

[sacred obsidian]

where are the fans wires running to? straight to the mobo?

[lone flame]

Mhm

[sacred obsidian]

ok i looked up the case, are all the fans daisy chained together

you should have another wire with the front IO stuff for the RGB.

it will be on the backside behind the mobo plate

your RGB header is on the bottom of the mobo

highlighted here

number 12

[lone flame]

Where’s the cable that plugs into the header though

Should be in the mess of front panel cables

[sacred obsidian]

yes in that mess. He's currently holding the RGB header, it's a really thin wire

it's hard to see but I couldn't find a clear picture of it

[lone flame]

There’s this

Everything else is plugged in

[sacred obsidian]

that looks like it's it but it's inverted?

1 sec

[lone flame]

Also it’s not booting it has a green boot light on the mobo but everything has power lmao

good start

[sacred obsidian]

this is what it should look like

see if those pins are removable but don't break em?

[rugged sparrow]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-15-6-touch-screen-full-hd-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-512gb-ssd-natural-silver/6550427.p?skuId=6550427

decent laptop for its price?

[lone flame]

Removable how

[sacred obsidian]

like are those pins supposed to be there?

[lone flame]

I mean they were in that cable to begin with

[sacred obsidian]

also I was wrong, it would be plugged into 11, not 12.

[lone flame]

That’s where I have it I believe

[sacred obsidian]

ok so that plug is supposed to be to chain more RGB into it.

there should be another plug with a female version of that

[lone flame]

What would that look like

[sacred obsidian]

it would look like the image im replying to. It's what you showed but the female version. It has 3 holes instead of 3 pins

[lone flame]

So it should go into add gen 2_3

[sacred obsidian]

yeah

[lone flame]

Cause that’s where it was

[sacred obsidian]

have you booted into windows?

[sand quarry]

could i get some help answering some questions related to upgrading my pc?

[lone flame]

I can’t even get a display rn

[sacred obsidian]

ok check that all power cords are seated and that ram and GPU are properly seated

[lone flame]

Everything has power i get a white vga light a a green boot light

Monitor isn’t detecting a input, DP is in gpu

[sacred obsidian]

ok from what I can find, if green boot light is lit that means it's not detecting a boot device. Are you using m.2 or sata?

[lone flame]

M.2

[sacred obsidian]

oh wait you haven't installed OS yet apparently that will stay lit til you do it. Try reseating the GPU and making sure it's power is secure.

also make sure your monitor is on the correct input

[lone flame]

Does the OS on the usb need to be in the mobo when I try to boot

[sacred obsidian]

yes but you should see a post screen either way

you should be able to boot into bios without a boot device

[lone flame]

If gpu is getting power fine; lights and fans running, would a reseat be needed

[sacred obsidian]

possibly if it's not making connection to the pcie slot

what cpu are you using btw

[lone flame]

7800x3d

[sacred obsidian]

when you turn it on and mash del, bios does not show up on screen?

and you're sure monitor is on and on the right input?

[lone flame]

Yes and yes

[sacred obsidian]

ok I would follow these steps to update the bios https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1038568/

or before that you can try using a different cord, or a different port on the gpu. But if that doesn't work I'd do the above

[lone flame]

Would it be worth trying the dp on the mobo

[sacred obsidian]

does your mobo have a dp port?

[lone flame]

Yes

[sacred obsidian]

try it, the cpu has an Igpu apparently

[lone flame]

Nope

Nuffin

[sacred obsidian]

yeah try updating the bios.

[lone flame]

But I can’t even get into the bios is that how that works

[sacred obsidian]

the back I/O has this, correct?

[lone flame]

Mhm

[sacred obsidian]

so if you follow the link I sent above, it details how to use that to update your bios. That allows you to bypass going into the bios

[lone flame]

And if everything has power besides the rgb it’s not something plugged into the wrong thing is it like headers

[sacred obsidian]

unlikely. Your post makes it through I think it is either your monitor is messed up or bios needs to be updated. It's possible it's something else, you could go down to barebones and try to post with only PSU, Mobo, 1 stick of Ram, and Cpu

[iron dove]

Bios is up, thanks much friend

[sacred obsidian]

np. Bios update work?

[iron dove]

Yep

[sacred obsidian]

awesome

is rgb working now

[lone flame]

its not

im back home but im on a call w/ him

someone will have to explain how to setup bios cause i cant lol

i just helped build it off of memory of how i built mine last year

[sacred obsidian]

ok so all you should have to do right now is plug in usb stick and let it run windows installation media

[iron dove]

Coolio

Just throw the stick in the back and reset it?

[sacred obsidian]

yeah but not in the bios port

[iron dove]

K

[solar fossil]

Is it normal for CPU temps to rise to 47-48 after downloading NZXT CAM? before I did that my cpu temp was consistently 29-30 at idle

[iron dove]

It usually take a minute to get any feedback from it? just getting a green light right now

[sacred obsidian]

You might have to open bios and set USB to first boot but usually it will just cycle through until it finds a bootable device.

[iron dove]

I got it

Is home or pro better?

[sacred obsidian]

that's not that abnormal

Pro is better but it's based on what key you have

It doesn't really matter which one you use, but I prefer pro

[iron dove]

Guess I can change it later. That’s all from me for now. Thanks

[dusky hearth]

Most of pro's features will be unused by basically every home user

Including gamers

[sacred obsidian]

but useful if you ever wanna start learning IT stuff. I just always got the pro version because I could find legit keys for 5-10 bucks lol but i don't think you can do that anymore

[dusky hearth]

Most keys are stolen anyways

On key selling sites

[sacred obsidian]

I got mine from ebay back in the day and it was generally reccomended around here not that long ago lol

[dusky hearth]

Ah yeah eBay had a bit more legit ones, but idk about anymore

[sacred obsidian]

I know I wasn't able to find any for less than like 40 bucks a few weeks ago, which still isn't bad but idk about the legitimacy of it