#building-and-recc-chat

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molten rune
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Orange dRam light before, trying to insert stick 2/4 into 1/3 apparently water-cooling cable or aio is making it difficult to do that

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Trying to boot

cyan ravine
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As long as they're carefully taking them out with the latches yeah

molten rune
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I mentioned that

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0d still

cyan ravine
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move keyboard monitor and mouse around from the original plugs

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0D is peripheral related

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Over current can cause it

molten rune
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Right

cyan ravine
molten rune
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Okay having him swap to other monitor as well as USBs into red slots

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Still 0d, slot 1/3

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First light orange

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Cpu then?

cyan ravine
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Wondering if the ram is seated properly

molten rune
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If I was physically there to check I could tell ya but unfortunately...

cyan ravine
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Not a lot of hope then

molten rune
cyan ravine
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Beyond this I'd be checking ram die and running custom ram settings

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Then testing for the scientific truth if I could

molten rune
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Any chance resetting CMOS and trying to re-set voltage to 1.35 makes a difference

cyan ravine
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Can yes

molten rune
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Trying back to 2/4 and seeing if he can change it without CMOS reset

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Still 0d so

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Probably undervoltong

cyan ravine
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Still keeb mouse or monitor

molten rune
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Front ports reporting as not working

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Some mobo thing won't use USB header "can't be reached" was what he was told when it was created

cyan ravine
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I'm like 80-90% sure yeah as I had a similar issue when my hdmi switch was backfeeding current into my pc

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Pc would pop up "usb overcurrent detected, shutting down."

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And if I didn't get video I'm almost certain the board said 0D

molten rune
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Still 0d, another set of USB used

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Tryin' swapping from DP monitor to HDMI one

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Same code

hot solar
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Yo guys where should I post if I need help comparing builds

analog hearth
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Yes

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My bad I misread. You can post here

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I just woke up lol

cyan ravine
molten rune
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Told him to try that

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We'll see

cyan ravine
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It's one of these things I'm sure

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If it passes code 55 for ram then it's almost bios stable

molten rune
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If a board has a CMOS reset button he shouldn't need to remove battery and short it right

cyan ravine
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Ye just a press for 10 sec is fine

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It isolates the power in the same way

molten rune
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Trying with just slot 2

molten rune
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Still no dice

cyan ravine
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It's definitely related to one of those things

fiery sable
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Anyone got any recommendations for a pc list that would be good for editing and streaming off of a video card. That’s within like $500, I know that’ll be a bit hard but I have someone who’s looking for a pc to stream games they play on their Xbox and to use to edit the streams and stuff

molten rune
cyan ravine
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I get the feeling either the stick or whatever he's trying is now dead if not the usb

cyan ravine
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Otherwise you have to reach deep for used parts

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And that's not including the monitor keyboard mouse

molten rune
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Can*

cyan ravine
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I'm kinda leaning that way yes

fiery sable
# cyan ravine For 750-ish yes

Could you make a list around $750ish so I can show them what they should look for if it’s a mix between used and new

cyan ravine
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I have to go shortly so off the top of my head copy this into pcpartpicker

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Ryzen 5500

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Asus tuf a520m wifi II

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3200 CL16 2x16gb ram, any brand that's NOT corsair vengeance

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1TB SSD, MP44L

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A $120-$250 gpu

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Anything from 5700xt, to arc a580

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Radeon 6650xt

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Radeon 7600

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Not an nvidia card unless used

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2070/Super works

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1070/1080 if desperately wanting nvidia

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$55 Apevia prestige 600W

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$55 Sama Argb-Q5

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Peripherals cheap as you can go

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Monitor cheap as possible, or gigabyte g24F 2

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Or Koorui(?) 24E3(?)

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1080p monitor

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That will hit somewhere around 650 to 900

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The more you can get used the better

cyan ravine
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But only if just editing. Otherwise nvidia and amd only

fiery sable
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Ok thank you, kinda crazy how you can think of these off the top of your head

cyan ravine
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I make dozens of lists a day so I just remember lol

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Like a street I drove down

fiery sable
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lol

cyan ravine
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Ok g2g

fiery sable
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See ya

molten rune
hot solar
# 
MOTHERBOARD : MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro-ATX Motherboard
RAM : TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR4 16GB (2x8GB) 3600MHz 
SSD : Lexar 512GB NM620 M.2 2280 Internal SSD
GPU : Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4060 EAGLE OC 8GB Graphics Card
PSU : Corsair CX Series CX650 650W 80 PLUS Bronze ATX Power Supply
CASE : Deepcool CC360 mATX Case (Black)
FREE : Windows 10/11 Pro Genuine Key```

I was going through a local store and they had this build for around $1200, is this even worth the money? I feel like I should get more for the same amount? (Totally new to this)
weary galleon
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Yeah you could do better by building yourself

mossy venture
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Are you in the US?

tawny violet
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5600 in a new build for 1200 is honestly criminal

hot solar
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oops replied to wrong message

hot solar
mossy venture
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With a matching motherboard and 32gb 6000mhz ddr5

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Preferably cl32 or lower for the ram

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For gpu, id look for 7600, 6700xt, 6750xt, 3060 ti, 3070, 6800, etc

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4060 is likely overpriced and at times it loses to the 3060

hot solar
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What cooler do you recommend

mossy venture
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But if you don't want to use it, it depends what's available

analog hearth
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Air coolers are fine for either of those CPUs if you're on a strict budget and just want a better cooler

potent portal
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A $15 tower would do fine yeah

mystic needle
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hi i need help installing drivers for my laptop i have them all downloaded on this drive that im gonna plug into my laptop

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i tried getting them over to my laptop a few times before taking a break on that cause I couldn't really figure out what to do with them

analog hearth
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Skill issue tbh

mystic needle
lament fulcrum
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Guys I'm stumped and have a question. I'm hooking up some el cheapo thermalright fans in my wifes pc. I've solved that each fan draws about .2 amps and my header supports 2 amps so 6 can definitely go on one fan header. As for aRGB though, I can't find anything about how much these fans draw. My aRGB header supports up to 3 amps and 15 watts. Are 6 fans too much for this one header? Do I need a separate sata powered hub? Please help 🙏

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This was enough for me

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Maybe even too much

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But a little too much doesn't hurt. Squeeze out is just messy

dusky hearth
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you might be reaching the limit though

lament fulcrum
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Seems to be working fine so far. Forgot that included the cpu fans too 8 running on one header

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I assume the led draw is .2 amps as well and they just don't specify

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Theoretically if that's the case I could power up to 15 rgb fans' leds

weary galleon
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Yeah I wouldn't expect PC leds to pull much power at all

obsidian wigeon
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press Y

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Did you use a drive from another pc?

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Weird

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Load optimized defaults then reboot

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Try entering bios then

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You'll want to reinstall os, or install one

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Nope

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Nah

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You shouldn't

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It should be installed after the pc is built

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This screen means you've installed windows on that drive in another machine

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Then moved it

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You gotta plug in a windows media usb

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Make a boot media with a usb drive

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No

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Just make one with a usb drive

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Use another pc or laptop

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So you download this

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Plug a usb drive into a pc or laptop

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And run the media creation tool

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you can do that too

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if you're willing to pay around a hundred or less

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you can buy one physically at microcenter

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you actually don't need to buy windows

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but it's a convenient option

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the computer has its basic operating system

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which is the bios

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you then install any advanced os of choice onto it in order to do non-basic stuff

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at this point i'd suggest doing a cmos reset

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does the back of your board have a reset button?

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if not, you'll have to find the small coin battery

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shut the pc down, remove it

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and put it back in again after 30 secs

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no

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look at the back of your pc

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Yeah that'll help

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I can look at the manual

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To get to the cmos batt, you'll have to take of your case's side panel

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It should be located at bottom right

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Just your fingers

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Use the eteknix vid to help

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All you have to do is press on the metal pin

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Watch at 0:33 mark

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Pry at it with your finger nails

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The other side without metal pin

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If you fail

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Use a cmos reset jumper

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It should be in your mobo's box

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Push it down onto those little two pins

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Or you can use a fork/spoon/screwdriver to touch the two pins

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That'll short it and reset cmos

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No

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It's supposed to be shorted to be triggered

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Yes

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Nothing atm

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You're free to install windows

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After that you'll want to enable XMP for memory

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Nah

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You didn't change anything

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The board has reseted itself

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The bios screen?

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Yes

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Or buy it

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Gigabyte's bios key is delete

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As for windows

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You plug a usb that has windows in it into your pc

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It'll automatically boot into it

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Yep

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Then you install windows as the installer guide you

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Online works too

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But you'd have to wait for it to ship so er

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Best buy, any local tech shops should sell physical copies of windows

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This guide only applies when you don't want to buy windows

hot solar
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sirs, is it fine to pair an amd ryzen 7600x with 4070?

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I heard 4060 is terrible

obsidian wigeon
hot solar
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Just for gaming

obsidian wigeon
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There's better option like RX 7900 GRE

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But the pair is fine

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Just not the best value

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ye

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It can't do much anyway

hot solar
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I see, can you recommend a motherboard ?

obsidian wigeon
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Country I mean

hot solar
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Maldives, shopping from Amazon

obsidian wigeon
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Windows 11 only sells in 64 bit

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But yeah you'd need 64 bit

obsidian wigeon
hot solar
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looking to build something around 1200-1300 ish

obsidian wigeon
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This would be a good board for just about any AM5 cpus

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gpu

hot solar
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I would be able max out on 1080p ?

obsidian wigeon
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this gpu is actually capable of 1440p max

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but yeah easily

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cpu i'd just get this

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simply cuz it comes with a cooler

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all you need is home edition

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windows is that expensive to buy physically

hot solar
obsidian wigeon
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The stock is good enough

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The gpu I'd probably get a 7800XT instead

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Since your target is 1080p

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This is for the case

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SSD is one last part

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As for GPU, any 7800XT will work

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Just get the cheapest one

hot solar
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Alright thank you so much and for the PSU how many watts should I select? There are a few options

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800 feels like a waste ? no?

obsidian wigeon
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Just go with 850

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It seems like a waste

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But a psu is something you barely upgrade

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It'll allow you to build just about any kind of pc you want to

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And reuse the same psu for years to come

hot solar
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got it! ty

obsidian wigeon
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Going any lower has less bang for buck

obsidian wigeon
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Have you followed the tutorial vid?

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Doe it boot from the flash drive at all?

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Does it go straight to the bios or show you something else

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Normally it should automatically boot into windows installer

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Can you head to easy mode?

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In bios that is

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See if anything in the "Boot Sequence" box appears

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You'll have to install wifi drivers

cyan ravine
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It should wifi it up so by the time you need to wifi it'll wifi

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Or yes install the drivers

obsidian wigeon
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Mhm

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You wanna do that anyway

stoic island
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Motherboard manufacturer's website

obsidian wigeon
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You have to plug the display cable to the back of your gpu

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Not the back of the board

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You're using the igpu

obsidian wigeon
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Hrm

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Try different ports

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If not, a different cable

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The cable might actually be broken

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Try reinstalling the gpu

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It might be an actual connection issue with the pcie slot

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Yeah

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Didn't you just build it?

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Just one part for a diagnosis

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That's normal

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They look right

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Is your display cable bought off somewhere, or did it come with your monitors

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Odd

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It should actually work

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Try to lower res in windows first

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Then switch your monitors to the gpu

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Display settings

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At this point I can't be sure

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Do you have any TVs?

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Test your gpu with one

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I'm starting to suspect either the gpu or cable is dead

stoic island
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Check GPU power cable on the PSU side

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Actually GPU fans not running might be not fully plugged into pcie slot if they don't spin at all

obsidian wigeon
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That's possible

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This is 12vhpwr

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I didn't think of that lol

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12vhpwr is very user error prone

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Try plugging that in again

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No

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The gpu's power cable

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Yes

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But the part that plugs into the gpu itself

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Not the adapters

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That one

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Make sure to plug it in straight

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Don't wiggle it or anything

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Now try using the gpu again

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Yep

stoic island
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Check the PSU side

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Where it plugs into the PSU

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Push it in fully

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Looks like it might have a dedicated 12vhpwr cable you could use

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I assume you're doing 2x pcie and using the adapter rn

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Give the cables on the PSU side a little push and see if it'll work

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Pcie power

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Your options are either use 2 pcie cables and an adapter or the specialized cable

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Anyways try booting again with display cable plugged into GPU

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Unscrew the GPU and remount it into the pcie slot

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Then find the dedicated 12vhpwr cable from your PSU and try using it

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You have the option of either using regular 8pin pcie power cables and an adapter or a specialized cable

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Unscrew from the case, then pull out/to the side the small tab at the end of the pcie slot

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That's 2 different troubleshooting steps I'm recommending, you can either try them separately or together

stoic island
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You can move the other tabs on the motherboard to get an idea of the mechanism

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It holds down the end of the GPU

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Not good, but it's just a mechanical mechanism, nothing electrical damaged

potent portal
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The plastic was probably damaged or bent when it came off.
It's not ideal, but it's still perfectly usable without that. If you have a large GPU make sure to use additional support so it doesn't fall out of the slot.

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Most of those are fairly small so it should be ok. I'd still use a Lego tower or something to hold the GPU just in case.

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Yes

stoic island
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Follow the pcie power cables back

solar fossil
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Hello everyone, new builder here. Could someone briefly educate me on the sleeved cables? Was wanting to get that nice cable look going on in my build with either white or rgb ones but I’m confused as to what all cables those are from. Are they just the ones connecting to and from the PSU and motherboard. Do they already come with the PSU’s? I know some are for the gpu. But what ones am I looking for and also what is the difference between the extensions and I guess straight replacements?

cyan ravine
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They've updated the focus cables

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Those look a lot nicer to work with than the ones I got

mossy venture
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Felix

potent portal
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If this is the first power on then give it a few minutes to train memory

cyan ravine
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Getting bombarded with questions please hold

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Your position in the queue is 3

mossy venture
cyan ravine
mossy venture
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Build I'm making to sell

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Psu isn't right

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It's rm850x and no questions just wanted to show you

cyan ravine
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That cooler feels too nice to be there

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Rest seems fine, maybe xt pro, c12c and a tower?

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Archon would work fine tho

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But I'd use that cooler elsewhere

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@pallid relic Position in the queue 2

cyan ravine
# solar fossil Hello everyone, new builder here. Could someone briefly educate me on the sleeve...

Some come with psus but extensions are easy to add in, as long as you're careful they're all plugged in there's no problem with them.

My experience is braided looks 10x better than rgb cables and doesn't need 3 programs to run while doing it. Moddiy is good. Cablemod is good. Asiahorse is good. You can also look at places like etsy for custom combs for the cables like metal or plastic, some people make very good ones.

Just uh, let me know if you want to try from scratch. It's um...a huge pit of time and basically a hobbyist job lol

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Pretty full on from scratch.
Extensions and replacements there's not a huge difference as long as the 12vhpwr is plugged in perfectly

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Next in the queue welcome to newegg support how can I help today

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Please hold for a few minutes while I review your details

lone flame
cyan ravine
lone flame
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busy day in the office for Felix

cyan ravine
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Flash like how

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Give me a detailed situation

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Build the scene for me

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Flashing is something that can mean anything including taking it's top off so I need more specifics

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I-

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It does this now??

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Or before

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Try another plug

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4070S has 4

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Yes try other monitor too

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Cable is fine we confirmed it with the motherboard

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Monitor as well as igpu recognised it

stoic island
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try having it plugged into the GPU while booting

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Yes

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No idea why it would be just giving you random colors though

cyan ravine
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Try other monitor for me

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If it doesn't work, I suspect a dead card

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Dead gpu

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Yes they can still do that

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Dead dead doesn't mean not operating

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But failing critically

solar fossil
cyan ravine
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All 4 good

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Fascinating

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Have you installed gpu drivers

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Right second question

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Is this a new windows

stoic island
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Can you get into bios?

cyan ravine
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Ok

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Try yeah setting pcie to gen 3 or gen 2 in bios

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If that doesn't work I strongly suspect a dead card

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Some broken link or solder crack, faulty from day 1

obsidian wigeon
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Press delete key

cyan ravine
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Go to start menu

obsidian wigeon
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Or spam ot

stoic island
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Spam del on startup

cyan ravine
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No

obsidian wigeon
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It's a gigabyte board

cyan ravine
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Stahp

stoic island
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or go through windows

cyan ravine
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Go to start

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Type

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System configuration

obsidian wigeon
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Listen to Felix

cyan ravine
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Click that

obsidian wigeon
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He has the easy solution

cyan ravine
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Go to the second tab

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Click safe mode

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Click apply

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Restart

obsidian wigeon
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You can also spam del key

cyan ravine
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Wait I'm dumb af sorry I said safe mode not bios

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No I'm wrong

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Lol

obsidian wigeon
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Actually felix

cyan ravine
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Sorry it's 4am

obsidian wigeon
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You can hold shift key and click restart

cyan ravine
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Yes that one

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That one is easy

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Hold shift key, restart

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Sorry don't do that

obsidian wigeon
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Don't do any of that

cyan ravine
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I messed up

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Close that

obsidian wigeon
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Just hold shift key, go to start menu and click restart

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Then a blue screen will appear

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After that you want to find UEFI settings

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Then it'll throw you there

cyan ravine
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You go to advanced options

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Uefi settings

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Troubleshoot

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Ye

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And whichever one says uefi

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Click that one

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Ye

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A lightsaber wielder

obsidian wigeon
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uefi is bios

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Just another name for it lol

cyan ravine
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Ok i believe its

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Press f6

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It should take you to an advanced section

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Ok f2

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Yep it was one or the other

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Gigabyte doesn't use f7

stoic island
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it's a thing at the top of the screen if you can't find the keybind

cyan ravine
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Advanaced

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Advanana

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Ok go to second tab

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Press right

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Nope next one

solar fossil
cyan ravine
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Yes settings

cyan ravine
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I believe its miscellaneous

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Look for "PCIE_X1 mode"

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Set to gen 3

obsidian wigeon
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Gen 0

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jk

cyan ravine
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It might say pcie x16_1

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Yep slot link speed

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Set gen 2

obsidian wigeon
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X16 slot link

cyan ravine
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X16

obsidian wigeon
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X16

cyan ravine
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Then when you've done that

obsidian wigeon
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3

cyan ravine
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Gen 2

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No 2

obsidian wigeon
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Alr sorry

cyan ravine
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Better odds with 2

obsidian wigeon
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2, I say it again

cyan ravine
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Then f10 and save and exit

obsidian wigeon
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Ya

cyan ravine
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Then try the gpu again as we did before with the plugs

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Bandwidth speed

obsidian wigeon
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Dang it still has 3dmark01 specific setting

cyan ravine
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Nah just tell me if it works the same after or not

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If it doesn't rip gpu

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Like genuinely it's either that or the mobo slot is kaput

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But I have doubts it's the mobo as it's seemingly otherwise working fine?

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Never know

obsidian wigeon
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ya

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I'd still blame the gpu first if it doesn't work

cyan ravine
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Vlog 💀

obsidian wigeon
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The gpu is more likely

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Oof, that's still not what we wanted to see

stoic island
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leave it plugged into GPU on start if you can though

obsidian wigeon
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As in, it not working

cyan ravine
stoic island
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I wonder if windows will ignore it if its not plugged in at the start

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esp when it doesn't have drivers

obsidian wigeon
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It seems to do just that

cyan ravine
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I'm not entirely sure

obsidian wigeon
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All it saw was radeon gpu

cyan ravine
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I know laptops it doesn't

obsidian wigeon
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One gpu

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It didn't detect the 4070s

cyan ravine
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But gigabyte is weirdge about things

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It may be not detecting

obsidian wigeon
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Oh boy

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Probs ded gpu

cyan ravine
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Try reseat gpu, if not, welp, try rma gpu first

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If not gpu try motherboard rma

obsidian wigeon
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Reseat was already done

cyan ravine
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Rip

stoic island
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either GPU or motherboard at this point

obsidian wigeon
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Yes

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Return works too

stoic island
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can return if you want to

cyan ravine
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Can

obsidian wigeon
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Return and buy another one

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That's doable

cyan ravine
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Ye

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There's a $500 gre as well on sale now

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Might be worth it

obsidian wigeon
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It's a powercolor

cyan ravine
obsidian wigeon
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Fighter OC iirc

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yep

cyan ravine
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Good gpu, it's like a 4070S kinda but $100 cheaper

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Don't get it if you use blender

obsidian wigeon
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Things come DOA sometimes, it's life

cyan ravine
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Stick to 4070S

obsidian wigeon
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You just happened to be unlucky

cyan ravine
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But if not, it's good

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I see gpu deaths very rarely

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Won't until you try another gpu

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Ye

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Take it in boxed up with receipt and show them what happened here

obsidian wigeon
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PC building is doable for everyone

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Again, it's luck

cyan ravine
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It's just unlucky timing

obsidian wigeon
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Even someone like felix has that happened

cyan ravine
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There's always 1 in 10000

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If you bought a prebuilt it's if anything more likely

obsidian wigeon
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It's not because you don't have the knowledge

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Prebuilts are more likely to come DOA

cyan ravine
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No

obsidian wigeon
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Nope, you're fine

cyan ravine
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What gave it away is the mobo shows windows

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We skipped like 30 steps as a result

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It's 100% either motherboard slot or gpu

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What it plugs into

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Where the gpu goes

obsidian wigeon
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Mobo's pcie slot

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The slot that the gpu plugs into

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No

cyan ravine
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We're good man

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Lol

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We've isolated the issue

obsidian wigeon
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We have what we needed to know

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All that's left is testing

cyan ravine
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I'm like 98% confident it's one of those two lol

obsidian wigeon
#

RMA it

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Or return and rebuy

cyan ravine
#

We gotta take the board out and swap it

obsidian wigeon
#

You'll have to remove everything that's attached to the board

#

CPU, GPU, Ram, cables

cyan ravine
#

Most of the things apart yeah

obsidian wigeon
#

Kinda, but not really

cyan ravine
#

Cross that bridge when we get to it

#

As I said it's just unlucky

obsidian wigeon
#

We hope it's not the board that's broken

#

If it's just gpu, phew

cyan ravine
#

If this was a prebuilt you'd have to send the whole thing back lol

#

Prebuilts often turn up with busted gpus

#

Well did you buy both board and gpu from bestbuy

#

Oh

#

Take it all to mc then

#

Mc will fix it

obsidian wigeon
#

Then you gotta take it all to mc

#

If the mobo does die

cyan ravine
#

If it's the board they'll swap it for you

potent portal
#

Didn't the board have more PCIe slots

obsidian wigeon
#

But for now let's hope it's just a GPU problem

potent portal
#

Could test with one of those to rule out the motherboard

cyan ravine
#

You can return the gpu to bb if they find it's the gpu

obsidian wigeon
#

Ye but it's not x16

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Good idea tho

cyan ravine
#

I've never tried it

#

Which motherboard is this

potent portal
#

They look like x16 slots to me. It doesn't need to be wired for x16 to test functionality.

cyan ravine
#

Hm alr

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Ah yeah they're all 1x slots

#

Give it a try ig

#

Swap the gpu to another slot on the motherboard

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

If same outcome it's definitely dead gpu

#

If windows then it's the board

#

One way goes to MC, the other best buy lol

potent portal
#

Yep one of the lower slots

#

They're not as high speed but it's just to test if it works at all

#

Middle or bottom

cyan ravine
#

Probs middle cos 2 slot gpu

#

If it even fits

#

Lol

#

Try take mobo out of the case

#

Don't force the gpu in

#

You might break something

frigid jackal
#

NZXT H510
Deepcool gammax gte v2
asrock b365
rtx 2060
intel core i5-9400f
seasonic s12III 500W bronze
intel 665p 1.0 tb
teamgroup elitce ddr4 32gb 2x16gb 2666mhz

any recommended upgrades?
specifically in terms of motherboard and cpu?

cyan ravine
#

Looks normal

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Yes that little gold piece is normal

cyan ravine
frigid jackal
#

oh yeah forgot to mention those two

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psu and case as wqell

cyan ravine
#

Asrock b650m hdv m.2

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Amd ryzen 7600

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Apevia prestige 600w

#

Sama argb-q5 case

mossy venture
#

Don't feel like buying another cooler just to have this one sitting around for another year

#

And the xt pro is apparently $60-$10 rebate and I didn't feel like dealing with it

cyan ravine
#

Alr

potent portal
#

The truth works so they don't try to resell it.
It's DOA, if they ask for more details you can tell them all the troubleshooting you did.

cyan ravine
#

Show the vids

frigid jackal
#

I have this right now

image.png
cyan ravine
#

Pcpartpicker

frigid jackal
#

but I can't find any of the other parts I have

cyan ravine
#

Use pcpartpicker

frigid jackal
#

alright

cyan ravine
#

I don't use newegg

#

We never shop in one place sorry

#

It's cheaper to shop everywhere

mossy venture
#

2060 12gb for $700 is...

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Interesting

frigid jackal
#

lol idk

mossy venture
mossy venture
frigid jackal
#

what's that?

#

also my bad

#

this is my current list

#

oh

#

oops idk how to send it

mossy venture
#

It's the link towards the top of the page above the cpu

frigid jackal
#

wait

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LMFAOO

#

im dumb

#

don't thihnk there's any compatibility issue

frigid jackal
mossy venture
#

Ah got it

frigid jackal
#

yeah that's what I currently have

mossy venture
#

You'd want to do ram too

frigid jackal
#

really?

mossy venture
#

You'd have to do ram if going am5

frigid jackal
#

ohhh

mossy venture
#

Only way you could keep it is going am4 or lga1700 or older

frigid jackal
#

yeah the mhz or whatever was offputting when Ig ot it but

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it runs better fs than my previous one

mossy venture
#

Can def do cheaper on psu, but a good 850 is nice for upgradability

#

That mobo doesn't have wifi built in, I figured if you needed it you can take the wifi from your current mobo

frigid jackal
#

thank you

severe dove
#

decent cases for hdv mobo?

potent portal
#

What budget?

tawny violet
severe dove
#

Sorry had to go, I just want something with good airflow and decent size so i dont have to change it later if i get bigger gpu. Budget is below $150 if possible. Dont gaf about looks.

austere condor
weary galleon
#

Might swap the 3050 for a 20 series model with more vram depending on what modeling is being done

tawny violet
#

You're pairing a K-series chip with a B760 mobo (so you probably won't get OC)

weary galleon
#

though if it's only for 3d printing and cnc'ing 6g is probably enough

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also I'd swap the cooler for something thermalright

tawny violet
#

Tbf SOME B760 might allow OC but
Normally you'd want the non-K chip in the B760s

mossy venture
#

I'd check out newegg comobo builder, i made some lists above i think with it?

#

maybe not

#

but i think there's 12700k with that mobo for under $300

austere condor
mossy venture
#

it's got K12s, and is a better cooler

austere condor
mossy venture
#

ahh

weary galleon
#

ypou could get a dual tower for 1/2 the price, spend the savings on replacement fans

tawny violet
#

@austere condor you only gonna use the included fans of the case?

austere condor
#

i prefer AIOs but thats more of a liability too, especially in a dusty enviroment, hard to clean

tawny violet
#

Cuz IIRC that case has a less than optimal dust filter up top

austere condor
#

im open to suggestions

#

preference is a mATX mini case, or even ITX

tawny violet
#

Are you gonna OC?

austere condor
#

no

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not a gaming PC

tawny violet
#

Then just grab a non-K CPU

mossy venture
#

demon ill need a bit since im in a val game, but i would make some other changes

austere condor
#

12600 costs more than a 12600k

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lol

tawny violet
#

Really?

weary galleon
#

mhm

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I checked lol

tawny violet
#

What a messed up world are we living in?

mossy venture
#

I would check out the newegg combo builder rn though

tawny violet
#

I mean yeah okay I didn't know

austere condor
#

12600k - $175
12500 - $195

tawny violet
#

Also

weary galleon
tawny violet
#

How attached are you to Intel?

mossy venture
#

12600 is also much worse than 12600k

austere condor
#

12600 - $250

#

lol

tawny violet
#

Ye okay I didn't know

austere condor
tawny violet
#

I think you'd benefit from a 7700

austere condor
#

can a 7700 fit in the budget?

tawny violet
#

Included cooler, (possibly) lower power draw

#

I think you can fit it

But it will be tight

weary galleon
#

for a non gaming build 12600 is probably a good bet

austere condor
#

lemme test

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oh its not even close

weary galleon
#

esp KF at $160, that's pretty good value

austere condor
#

XD

tawny violet
#

I think it'd resoundingly beat the 12600K if you don't OC it

austere condor
#

7700 is $275

tawny violet
#

It does have the cooler tbf

austere condor
#

yeah but its $100 more than the 12600k

weary galleon
tawny violet
#

It's really up to whether you find a combo deal

austere condor
#

even with the $50 noctua cooler, thats still $50 more

mossy venture
#

is this build anti rgb?

tawny violet
#

Do you want to build it rn?

austere condor
#

i mean, its a work PC. its going into a workshop

#

the less stuff that will break the better

#

how do i even search newegg for combo deals? lol

mossy venture
#

uhh

#

ill take care of it if you dm waiting

#

i use the mobile app and just find it at the top section

austere condor
#

ah ok i got it

tawny violet
#

It's also somehow cheaper than your list(?)

#

Yes the Mobo is BASIC

#

But you still have roughly 35 bucks of wiggle room if you want specific features

austere condor
#

no wifi, glass case in a workshop is a bad idea, and i need a 5.25in bay

tawny violet
#

5.25 you didn't say yet

austere condor
#

the case having a handle is neat, but... hows the dust filtering on it?

tawny violet
#

Well the ODD bay requirement kinda kills the idea

#

But let me try something

mossy venture
#

well it's also a pop silent variant

#

airflow is less than desirable, but not as bad as something like the h510

austere condor
#

if the pop air solid sidepanel was cheaper i would go for that =/

#

this bundle thing is useful

cyan ravine
austere condor
#

no good deals on SSDs rn tho

mossy venture
#

you want the igpu of the 12600k?

#

or dc

cyan ravine
#

Actually yeah igpu can come out here

austere condor
#

idk if a AMD GPU is the right option for solidworks/CAD

cyan ravine
#

It's fine

#

I use one

mossy venture
austere condor
#

PA120 is too big of a cooler

cyan ravine
#

It's cheaper than a U12

tawny violet
#

Sadly I couldn't make the 7700 work as much as I tried

#

But I do think that the 7600 would be competitive

weary galleon
#

I probably wouldn't do a 7600. Good for gaming but for this use case I think more cores is better

cyan ravine
#

7600 is applicable here

#

They're both fairly similar in CAD and solidworks

#

Intel has a slight edge

austere condor
#

600W GX2 is fine for a PSU yeah?

weary galleon
#

7600 is more expensive though

cyan ravine
cyan ravine
mossy venture
cyan ravine
#

Also lower power envelope, for a work horse a 7600 would be cheaper long term

mossy venture
#

you gotta find the combo up savings page though, or ill see if i can find it on the website rq

tawny violet
#

Hey I might've actually did kinda well?

mossy venture
#

oh that was easy

tawny violet
#

And again
I didn't include a case, but there is 85 bucks of budget left to choose one that's fitting
I think that's reasonable

#

Sadly I don't have the means to really dig around on phone

cyan ravine
#

Unironically this would work well

weary galleon
tawny violet
#

Radeon is bad with Solidworks and Blender is the issue

cyan ravine
austere condor
#

using the combo thing its like a $15 savings

tawny violet
#

So I kept the nGreedAI GPU in and tried to make things work

cyan ravine
tawny violet
#

They improved it?

cyan ravine
#

It's fine

weary galleon
#

yeah especially with dust present I suppose less case airflow is bettter

austere condor
#

but thats with the fullsized pop air

tawny violet
#

Nice

cyan ravine
#

Like man I wouldn't take any chances with a 3050 anyway

tawny violet
#

You can also just
Get a good deal on a used 6700XT

cyan ravine
#

7600 will be usable

#

Sure

#

Used GPU will always be better here

mossy venture
tawny violet
#

Ye

cyan ravine
#

ideally a 2070S if that's an option

weary galleon
#

I use solidworks on an amd laptop igpu and it works fine

austere condor
tawny violet
#

But yeah 7600 is def viable

mossy venture
cyan ravine
#

Needs a better cooler with that one

austere condor
#

@mossy venture i dont have the link?

#

where is it

mossy venture
cyan ravine
#

Also that 3050 still bleh

mossy venture
austere condor
cyan ravine
#

I used to struggle with a 1080, I wouldn't do 3050

tawny violet
#

12700kf gets VERY borderline on the U12S

#

Power draw spikes on those

#

I'd rather not do that honestly

mossy venture
#

ye honestly what about a pa120 se

austere condor
#

too big

#

liability for shipping

mossy venture
#

silver soul 135?

tawny violet
#

@cyan ravine generally air-cooling on 700K/900K SKUs probably not great right?

mossy venture
#

14700k yes

cyan ravine
mossy venture
#

13700k and 12700k fine with a good dual

austere condor
#

@mossy venture where is the bundle link?

tawny violet
#

Didn't Demo say they need to ship it long distance?

mossy venture
#

you have to select the parts on the combo page i linked

austere condor
#

ohhh, i might change it to a 12600k

tawny violet
#

Why not just
Ship it with cooler removed and install cooler on site?

mossy venture
#

it might affect the discounts tho

austere condor
#

try and get closer to the $1000 mark the customer wanted

mossy venture
#

if it comes out cheaper yeah 12600k/kf works

cyan ravine
#

Or just do a 7600

#

And use a stock cooler

tawny violet
cyan ravine
#

No liability then

mossy venture
#

nah am5 bundles arent great with combo, 12700kf better value rn with the discounts

austere condor
#

but after tax, labor, shipping, transaction fees

#

its higher

cyan ravine
tawny violet
#

Yeah you can fit the 7600 GPU+GPU combo into that

cyan ravine
#

12700K is the hottest by die space on 12th gen

tawny violet
#

Just
Use the stock AMD cooler and you won it

austere condor
#

i did a 12700k on a PA120SE and it was still obnoxiously hot

tawny violet
#

Felix's list is really good

#

Unless customer insists the 3050

cyan ravine
#

Just do the 7600/7600 list, it even has a smaller case so shipping is cheaper

tawny violet
#

And it's got a stock cooler to no danger of shipping damage

#

Less power draw too so the customer really just wins

cyan ravine
#

You can even do the smaller RX7600

#

The powercolour

#

2 fan

#

Even lighter than the gigabyte for 5 less

austere condor
#

hows the build quality on that case?

cyan ravine
#

Terrible

austere condor
#

welp

cyan ravine
#

But it's a mesh small case

#

So it works

#

Probably one of the only gamemax's I'd ever recommend apart from the spark

#

Down to 812

tawny violet
#

Sadly it's hard to get cases that are good for this kinda environment for cheap

cyan ravine
#

If you want to throw $10 on a better case, Sama argb-q5

#

It'll look like a frankenstein tho

#

Phanteks XT pro same reason

#

ITX in ATX is

#

Not to mention XT has only 1 fan

austere condor
#

oof

The Apevia Prestige 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply length of 160mm exceeds Fractal Design Pop Mini Silent MicroATX Mid Tower Case maximum of 150mm.

cyan ravine
#

A550BN

tawny violet
#

Yeah Pop series isn't exactly amazing on that

cyan ravine
#

Spend any more than 60 and a <600W isn't really worth it

austere condor
#

i cant find that ram @mossy venture

mossy venture
#

sorry it's a teamgroup kit

#

6000c30 i didnt feel like swapping it on pcp lol

austere condor
#

12600KF, board, ram, and PSU is $408

#

with the combo stuff

mossy venture
#

so $55 cheaper

#

imo worth getting 12600kf

#

id rather spend that towards a better gpu than the 3050

austere condor
#

$36 less than PCPP

#

so yeah

#

not bad

mossy venture
#

what about with the 750 agl?

austere condor
#

$25 more

mossy venture
#

hm

#

id grab the agl personally

austere condor
#

gives me the budget to get my OS and a DVD drive

#

so thats all pre-installed

#

why the WD 580 over the Gammix S7?

#

@mossy venture

#

for the SSD

mossy venture
#

gen 4 and tlc

#

id grab mp33 at 58 otherwise

#

Oh wait

mossy venture
#

$55 iirc after combo deal

austere condor
#

basically right ont he money

#

$800

mossy venture
#

any way silver soul 110 would be ok?

#

smaller than 135

#

very short dual tower

austere condor
#

i shipped a AK620 earlier and it got obliterated

#

so... im just... ugh

#

i dont wanna deal with it

mossy venture
#

its tiny tiny

austere condor
#

well

#

shipping to alaska for this system is going to be $160~

#

if it breaks

#

i have to pay return shipping

#

and then ship it back fixed

mossy venture
austere condor
#

i dont want the risk of having to spend $300+ dollars on shipping for a CPU cooler that might be too big

mossy venture
#

then grab that

austere condor
#

i mean, is it not worth spending the bit extra on noctua for the reliablity of the fans in a work enviroment?

mossy venture
#

it'll do as well as the u12s

#

not really

#

lemme do some research on that cooler rq, but if im right it's either a thermalright b12 or k12

#

which is just a renamed noctua fan

#

felix could explain that more in depth

weary galleon
#

the kind of reliability noctua would be known for isn't going to be consistent when in a dusty/dirty environment

#

they aren't industrial spec or anything

austere condor
#

well, total customer cost has dropped from $1260 to $1160, whole $100 less, lol

cyan ravine
#

Tmw thermalright has been around as long as noctua with the c12

mossy venture
#

ah no it's a tl-s12 for the fan

cyan ravine
#

It's not

#

E12

#

It's better

mossy venture
#

amazon lied to me

cyan ravine
#

Nope

#

I have 1st hand confirmation

#

Omfg auto incorrect

#

Remember I pinged you about this Bacca months ago lol

austere condor
mossy venture
#

looks good

cyan ravine
#

Please change that 3050

austere condor
#

could go with a $192 GPU budget too

mossy venture
#

better gpu or psu with rest of money isnt a bad idea

austere condor
#

lol we were all thinking the same thing

#

XD

cyan ravine
#

Again, gtx 1080 used to be painful for cad with large geometry shapes

#

3050 won't be better

austere condor
#

rx 6600 is the only option

mossy venture
#

Unless used

cyan ravine
#

6600 would be acceptable yes, but I'd try for 7600 so you get hardware rt cores

#

It makes a real difference in cad+sw

#

Big jump

#

Or do used 2070s

weary galleon
#

for 3dp and CAM though?

#

I could see it for rendering sure

cyan ravine
austere condor
#

its $250 for the cheapest 7600

#

or $200 for the 6600

cyan ravine
#

Used 2070s?

austere condor
#

i mean i could sell him one of my used 3060's

cyan ravine
#

That would be great

#

3060 12gb is a solid low tier cad card

weary galleon
#

good use case for a 3060

cyan ravine
#

Then instead of a $50 u12, maybe a 240 aio

#

Frozen edge is 45 iirc

#

Those ship with a12x25's so it's no discussion on reliability

austere condor
#

i dont wanna put an AIO in it

#

guy will probably be using this PC for 10 years

cyan ravine
#

Single tower is a bit much for 12600k

austere condor
#

limit the chip to 125W?

cyan ravine
#

Then go get a 12400f

#

Lol

austere condor
#

forgot the 12600k is a 125W chip

cyan ravine
#

125....ehhhh

#

It's kinda more like

#

At that point 7600 is going to be cheaper long term

#

You aren't taking the gains of intel like that

#

If you're gonna impose limits then it's definitely going to swing the favour of the ryzen chip imo

#

Those two cpus are so similar performing really

austere condor
#

tbh im lazy and would just leave it default

cyan ravine
#

Or even 7500F off aliexpress

austere condor
#

yeah but that chance of 3 week delivery

#

meh

cyan ravine
#

What about 13400f

#

13400f is a bit better if you find a raptor version

austere condor
#

maybe, little bit pricer than a 12600kf

cyan ravine
#

Yes but runs cooler iirc

#

Single tower is more usable

#

If you find the raptor version I believe power draw takes a significant cut

austere condor
#

its $30 more to go with a 13400f

cyan ravine
#

You lose the single core perf but it's fine

austere condor
#

rather just spend that $30 on a better cooler

#

lol

cyan ravine
#

You could buy a $30 cheaper cooler too

#

Se 214xt

#

Home and hosed

austere condor
#

i mean we're already on a $20 cooler

mossy venture
#

12600kf unless doing heavy multi core loads evo dark is fine for

cyan ravine
#

It says $45 on the site

austere condor
#

Assassin Spirit 120?

cyan ravine
austere condor
cyan ravine
#

How much is the psu

austere condor
#

$55

#

prestige doesnt fit in the case

cyan ravine
#

Can do xt pro + c12c-s' for 62 + prestige for 50