It's like $35 for a piece(s) of foam and some standoffs but you could just cut the foam yourself and use zipties for like a couple dollars
#building-and-recc-chat
cyan ravine
cyan ravine
You don't have a fan on the cooler?
limber oyster
The cooler is the only fan
Only active one anyways
The only other two fan slots are in front of the cpu fan
limber oyster
@cyan ravine
cyan ravine
Ye so only one active fan, if you ran a duct for it directly onto the cooler that would probably be the cheapest most effective method if you want to forgo the other 2 fans altogether
Or yeah if you can fit a dual tower, then using a good one like a PA120SE being the shortest one I know of that isn't half height, you could just run the stock fans and the result is basically the same as a high performance fan
So you could keep the quieter fans for a negligible difference
Peerless assassin mini would be the otherwise choice if a standard dual tower doesn't fit, I'm pretty sure the PA120SE is otherwise the shortest
Or that funky lp 240mm one that gn reviewed one time
It's a bit wide tho, might have trouble fitting in an itx
limber oyster
They're purely for "noise reduction". They do kinda help
Idk how effective that 240 would be tho
cyan ravine
It's somewhere near a nh-d15
Which isn't bad, not the best
But if you have height issues and it fits (I will be saying this in every sentence because this is itx) it's probably one of the best lp options you could get
Save an axp-120 copper if it exists (axp90 variant does and it's excellent)
limber oyster
I have a thermalright axp120-x67
limber oyster
CPU hit 88° on Forza horizon 5
cyan ravine
Makes sense, it's a 3900x on an lp lol
Anything over 100W is definitely a challenge
Same above points still apply, better fan < ducting < dual LP < PA mini < PA120SE
limber oyster
My 6800xt isn't helping either
cyan ravine
In order of potential efficacy
cyan ravine
Are you trying to undervolt to make it faster
limber oyster
Undervolt because it hits 111°C
cyan ravine
Because radeon works like that if you don't set custom MPT PL
It'll just boost to higher clocks at the same power target
limber oyster
potent portal
If you're trying to reduce temps without performance loss on AMD GPUs what you want to do is undervolt AND set a reduced power limit
limber oyster
Ace combat 7
cyan ravine
If you're trying to reduce temps without performance loss on AMD GPUs what you w...
Navi 21 you want to use MPT for this
limber oyster
And rn I'm trying to find a better CPU cooler that doesn't blow the hot air into my face lol
cyan ravine
Adrenalin is limited in options
limber oyster
I'm debating getting a 240mm cooler for my 6800xt or get a 7900xtx
cyan ravine
XTX will blow more hot air lol
limber oyster
Well then I can 240mm cool that too 😂
Forza used 14GB vram
I have 16
I am also planning on going 7800x3d so I'd rather have a better CPU cooler for that too
potent portal
That runs on a stock cooler
Absolutely no practical reason to get more than a $20 single tower
Looks, sure
cyan ravine
If you're changing cpu later then the cooler change will give 0 benefit
It doesn't just run on a stock cooler, it maxes out on one
limber oyster
I dont have a stock cooler?
cyan ravine
What you could do is set a manual power limit
Yes you have something way better than stock
limber oyster
Plus I thought the 7800x3d didn't come with one?
potent portal
Wraith is actually usable on the chips it comes with
Unlike Intel packing a slim LP cooler with a 12700
limber oyster
You mean the same cooler since the 3rd gen?
limber oyster
"let's quadruple our wattage but keep the same cooler as 20 years ago"
cyan ravine
Wraith prism is about 2% worse than a 240 aio, and some 3% worse than a full water loop
Wraith stealth is more or less a few % worse
It will run like any other 65W chip on the platform
Just at a higher reported temp due to vcache insulating
potent portal
"let's quadruple our wattage but keep the same cooler as 20 years ago"
I've seen a 13700K use more power than my overclocked 3080 ti, with the CPU at stock settings
cyan ravine
MPT btw afaik doesn't work with XTX
So whatever you end up doing, you'll be more or less bound to the basic algorithm of RDNA 3
Which works best at stock
Navi 21 though, you can just soft flash with MPT a lower power limit and leave everything else alone, it'll just pull less power
limber oyster
cyan ravine
Radeon works a lot like PBO on Ryzen, it will draw as much as it can under the load condition for what it thinks it needs
limber oyster
What I'm looking at getting
cyan ravine
So it will either throttle for power or throttle for heat
Or additionally clocks, if the clocks are limited (normally are)
Without manually forcing power down, RDNA 2 or 3 doesn't avoid targeting full power draw
FPS caps kinda contribute
Hit or miss
cyan ravine
What I'm looking at getting
Looks fine to me if you want to switch, changing coolers not worth it tho if you do
AXP120 absolutely maxes out a 7800x3d
I know someone who maxed it out on an axp90
limber oyster
Id go 3090/4090 but I can't find one that is shorter than 330mm, not need the new 12 high power thingy, and uses a TOTAL of 3 case slots with the cooler included
And less than $1200
limber oyster
I found a zotac 3090 that didnt
limber oyster
Lol
cyan ravine
3090 is pre 12vhpwr
limber oyster
I thought some used it?
limber oyster
Ah
limber oyster
Well I also doubt my 850w PSU can handle a 4090
cyan ravine
Rasterisation they perform fairly similar
cyan ravine
Well I also doubt my 850w PSU can handle a 4090
With 7800X3D is should
If it's an ITX, probably in a loud manner, but should
limber oyster
Asus Loki 850w 80+ gold(I think gold)
I was also looking at, eventually getting a Thermaltake tower 900
cyan ravine
Isn't a 900 enormous
limber oyster
Yeah
potent portal
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jDc4fy
You can set parametric filters so it automatically selects the lowest cost option on pcpp
cyan ravine
There's a couple cheaper choices ye
limber oyster
No, goes up to eatx
cyan ravine
Think ram you can go down to 95, or even 83 if you ditch the xmp
limber oyster
You can set parametric filters so it automatically selects the lowest cost optio...
That's what I did
limber oyster
MSI is sub 900
cyan ravine
I'd pick the sapphire over the asrock personally
limber oyster
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pk9734
I use 2 NVMes
cyan ravine
It costs more than a nitro
limber oyster
Gigabyte only has one
cyan ravine
Ah ok
limber oyster
Sorry
cyan ravine
Still the ram is the same
limber oyster
I should've stated that
cyan ravine
but $10 less
limber oyster
Here, let me do a full build
potent portal
That button adds your current filtered list as an item that auto selects the cheapest match
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2nrczf
limber oyster
With including what I have noe
cyan ravine
Pulse looks like the nicest choice atm for XTX
Or XFX
The PG is good, but they also commonly ship with poor paste jobs
And while I could say "yeah just repaste"
Not that simple with xtx unfortunately
Pump out happens on Navi 31 pretty aggressively, so you want PTM (And not fake Amazon PTM)
I tried for months avoiding PTM, eventually gave up, a number of people I've encountered say the same thing
So an XTX with bad paste I'd be immediately buying PTM which isn't cheap like MX-6 lol
limber oyster
?
cyan ravine
the glass on the sides of the 100 would interfere with temps
limber oyster
Why go those?
limber oyster
I spent $1500 on an Asus 3080 RTX back when it first released
limber oyster
Why the 900
I like how open it is and I want to try a new style case
Looks kinda easy to build in
limber oyster
Better than the Corsair 10000D
cyan ravine
Getting the same aesthetic for $90 isn't appealing?
limber oyster
Can't do a loop for GPU in those tho
limber oyster
Maybe the 500
cyan ravine
Tower 200 can do dual rad in fact
Which would be more than enough
Similar power draw in this build
Also space for a pump/cpu block combo if it keeps things a lot simpler
cyan ravine
You can mount on both sides due to the vent patterns
limber oyster
Interesting
limber oyster
Also space for a pump/cpu block combo if it keeps things a lot simpler
Id go Alphacool where the CPU AND GPU block is the pump
cyan ravine
Are there fan brackets on both sides?
limber oyster
What GPU?
cyan ravine
He uses plastic washers for load distribution, those are like, 400 for a couple dollars
3090
limber oyster
Ah
cyan ravine
There's more than enough rad there tho
limber oyster
I probably have a ton in my Snap-on tool box
cyan ravine
You could really do XTX + 7800X3D on a good enough fpi 240mm
It's not so much as the heat capacity of the rad, but the efficacy in also pumping the heat out and the coldplate strength
limber oyster
I like each having their own dedicated rad. Just seems nicer to me
cyan ravine
I mean if you prefer the style sure
I would consider this worth it tho to save both desk space and money in pocket for what I'm guessing is a similar result in a more updated case of the same style
cyan ravine
Yes
limber oyster
Rather than a pulse
limber oyster
Ahh
cyan ravine
Nitro+ you benefit from the cooler
If you're gonna watercool, use a PG, get a PG/Taichi block
Same result, less money
Grab ptm for the core
ONLY ptm
Kryosheet or genuine PTM7950
limber oyster
I don't touch liquid metal
cyan ravine
Use A620i Lightning
limber oyster
I DO NOT trust myself with that
limber oyster
Use A620i Lightning
I was
cyan ravine
Well I'm talking about PG XTX
If you're gonna use the stock cooler, Pulse or Merc
If you're gonna waterblock, PG
Nitro can be nice but it's basically investing in the same performance as a waterblock before you buy the block
TUF as well, but the result is worse
limber oyster
Gotchya
cyan ravine
Actually yeah if I think about it, Merc is also a waterblock option
But Merc has very limited choices for who to buy from iirc
At least that was the case during the first year of release, might be different now
There's Alphacool, but potentially there could be others like bykski (don't use with lm) or maybe optimus
Heatkiller etc
Wouldn't touch EK with a 10ft pole rn
They have a pump+block combo for itx builds however if you can find one in local stock, don't order it from anywhere waiting for it
Be extra careful pressure testing it too, EK QC is not hugely reliable
burnt bough
guys is i7 14th better than Ryzen 7 7800X3D bec its have more cores and threads and all in the same price range how is that?
cyan ravine
Them costing the same is half the story
14700K often requires a more expensive motherboard
A far more expensive cooler
manic cloak
And its chipset is ending ^
cyan ravine
And a bigger psu
obsidian wigeon
And err, requires running stock if you don't wanna kill it
cyan ravine
And it's a soon legacy platform yes
obsidian wigeon
Like Intel reference
cyan ravine
And intel stock spec which requires manual bios changes yes
manic cloak
guys is i7 14th better than Ryzen 7 7800X3D bec its have more cores and threads ...
What are you trying to do exactly?
cyan ravine
If you can work past all that, sure, it's nice, but the late events mean intel can't quite claim the same performance as it used to have
obsidian wigeon
Anyway uh, I have been pretty worried about what happened to my lappy
burnt bough
What are you trying to do exactly?
all in the same price but the i7 have more cores and threads
obsidian wigeon
I was using it, and a huge gust of wind blew some sand up onto it
cyan ravine
all in the same price but the i7 have more cores and threads
More cores ≠ more better
manic cloak
I was using it, and a huge gust of wind blew some sand up onto it
Did you see dune II in 4D?
obsidian wigeon
It got coated in a light layer of sand
cyan ravine
It got coated in a light layer of sand
SAND TUF???
obsidian wigeon
I'm sure a tiny amount of sand got into top intake
Because the whole keyboard deck was coated
Would that damage anything?
cyan ravine
More cores ≠ more better
Always read reviews for what the extra cores provide in performance, beyond 8 cores, most normal tasks don't really make any significant improvements
The low end 6 cores of current gen can outpace the older 10 cores and 8 cores of the past
obsidian wigeon
I might wanna get someone to vaccum it out I guess?
I don't got anything to suck the sand up from the keyboard
burnt bough
More cores ≠ more better
ya but everyone says the 7800X3D better but when i saw the compare between them i was confuse
cyan ravine
I might wanna get someone to vaccum it out I guess?
Without jamming the fan that will break the laptop
obsidian wigeon
All I did was wiping and blowing on it until I didn't see a speck of sand
cyan ravine
ya but everyone says the 7800X3D better but when i saw the compare between them ...
14700K will get close to a 7800x3d in games but lose, while in workstation 14700K will win
obsidian wigeon
Ugh, I really don't wanna take this whole thing apart just to get a tiny amount of sand out
cyan ravine
14700K is nice, but beyond 8 cores games don't really benefit
Games aren't (or rare to be) made to run over 8 cores
Intel also has the 1% and 0.1% low advantage, but for each person the benefit is selective and there are tradeoffs
obsidian wigeon
I believe some sand shouldn't hurt a laptop, right?
cyan ravine
I believe some sand shouldn't hurt a laptop, right?
Can jam a fan up
cyan ravine
Without jamming the fan that will break the laptop
Different kind to this, the bad kind
Have you claimed warranty on that yet
For the drop
obsidian wigeon
Nope, haven't had the opportunity to
cyan ravine
Should do so soon, the warranty won't last
obsidian wigeon
I'd do that if my mom wasn't so busy
burnt bough
Games aren't (or rare to be) made to run over 8 cores
ya bec i play a lot of overwatch and valorant and someone told me u have to get a good cpu with the 4070 ti super so u can get more quality and fps
cyan ravine
Ok specifically 4070ti super?
obsidian wigeon
But I will try tbh
cyan ravine
They don't really know what they're talking about tbh
cyan ravine
So many factors weigh in to good fps
Ram cpu monitor res ulmb2, keyboard mouse, display cable length
Monitor panel type
obsidian wigeon
It has 2 years standard, but the first year is premium
burnt bough
So many factors weigh in to good fps
ya but i think those games use cpu more
cyan ravine
It's still incredibly important
Just pulling any old gpu out of a hat, I could do that too 💀
At the right settings any combination will run val lol
Val runs on igpu's these days
burnt bough
At the right settings any combination will run val lol
i mean ya but in like 2k or high quality
cyan ravine
Yes, you want a good cpu, but consider your budget first imo
And if you play comp, the peripherals and monitor count as much if not more
Than the pc itself
burnt bough
Yes, you want a good cpu, but consider your budget first imo
if you are right then i think i will get Ryzen 5 7600x
cyan ravine
It depends on your budget mate, we start there
burnt bough
the gpu still 4070ti S
burnt bough
It depends on your budget mate, we start there
maybe 1500$
cyan ravine
4070 Ti S is one of the worst value gpus you can buy rn
It's a 4070Ti but 5% faster for some 15% more cash
burnt bough
4070 Ti S is one of the worst value gpus you can buy rn
really?
cyan ravine
If not 30% in some cases
Yes
4060 ti 16gb is iirc the only worse one
Then 4060 ti 8gb, 7600xt?
Then you get to like, 4090
Avoid that card
It's not at a nice price yet
cyan ravine
maybe 1500$
So let me ask, are you shopping for a monitor as well
Wifi? Mouse, keyboard?
Got a colour preference?
burnt bough
So let me ask, are you shopping for a monitor as well
ya but after 2 months after the pc
crimson zinc
Avoid that card
cyan ravine
ya but after 2 months after the pc
How much were you thinking to spend
burnt bough
Got a colour preference?
i think i will stay on the stock to save for later
cyan ravine
I can make most aesthetics fit for a handful of dollars
Just don't say something like "aio with a screen" or "dominator platinum" or "everything corsair"
Or "everything nzxt"
burnt bough
i mean ya sure
cyan ravine
ya but after 2 months after the pc
How much were you looking to spend on the monitor
burnt bough
How much were you looking to spend on the monitor
400$ to 500$
cyan ravine
Ok
Can you make that 650
And we do 1350 for the pc
650 buys oled
Which the latency improvement is equivalent to like 3 gpu upgrades alone
burnt bough
Which the latency improvement is equivalent to like 3 gpu upgrades alone
ya but it will take me time lol
cyan ravine
Massive jump in responsiveness which is the whole point of getting high fps
That's fine
Are you buying the pc soon?
Cos if not, we'd be better to wait until later when you're ready as sales change daily
burnt bough
ya after 1 mount
cyan ravine
Ah ok
Yeah 1 month is a long time
If either of us made a list now it wouldn't have the same price in a month
Better to wait until then
burnt bough
ya but the prices will go down not up
cyan ravine
Not always
Ssd's have been going up for months
And psu's and cases change sales completely so the same case might change from $40 back up to like $90
Or a $150 psu suddenly only $70 for a short time (like the old focus units atm)
Before it's not even available anymore
A lot changes in a month
We'll still be here by then and there's a number of perfectly capable people who can make a list
burnt bough
but u told me before 4070ti s not a good card what u suggest then?
cyan ravine
For 1350?
cyan ravine
Probably 7900GRE or 4070 Super for valorant
burnt bough
i will make the monitor later
burnt bough
But then no OLED
i will buy the oled but after i buy the pc
cyan ravine
Alr
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Qt2WGX/razer-viper-v2-pro-wireless-optical-mouse-rz01-04390100-r3u1
Increase or decrease gpu by the amount you'd need to buy the other stuff
7900 GRE for 550
4070 Super for 580
4070 Ti refurb for 580
But all three of these will change in a month
7800XT is good
Used 6900xt/6950xt
3080 Ti
The OLED more than makes up for the gpu performance loss as the raw gain in responsiveness is the equivalence of over doubling your fps
https://youtu.be/hMzCnEhfB18?si=qZFz9-BQyCZXSGqc same monitor panel as the ktc linked
But I can say with pretty strong confidence, in a month's time this price will look different, and this is picking a lot of really conservative and stable price choices @burnt bough
Motherboard prices fluctuate wildly, so do specific gpu choices and ssd's will be a lot more expensive in the future
cyan ravine
https://www.ebay.com/itm/305474914192 4070 super $450
Yes
It's a 6 stage 55A or 45A gigabyte board
It's overkill for the 7800x3d
Rather
Any motherboard just about is overkill for a 7800x3d
But again, odds are that might go back to the normal price of like, 170 or so in a month
The ktc as well, it goes on and off sale, near 600, then back to 800
7800x3d often goes back up to 400 and stays 400 for a while
I really can't guarantee most of any prices or the list looking similar in a month
cyan ravine
https://www.ebay.com/itm/305474914192 4070 super $450
One of the many reasons 4070Ti Super just isn't worth, when sales like these exist
burnt bough
i go with that gpu not the 4070ti s?
cyan ravine
4070 super is like 10% off the 4070 Ti S, and yet almost half the price
burnt bough
One of the many reasons 4070Ti Super just isn't worth, when sales like these exi...
oh
cyan ravine
If you're buying now, seems like a solid buy
Nevermind it was 450
It's now 600
Still ok, but not as amazing
Unless the price just doesn't show for me
One of those rare models too it looks like
burnt bough
the RX 7900 XT same as 4070 ti s?
cyan ravine
Faster
With oled in the mix, it won't matter a whole lot anyway
Dial in bz easy ram oc on top and the latency drops way down
You'd be debating the difference of fractions of a fraction of a second
But to buy everything for a good price, go with the better value imo
Might want to have a look at this as well
#graphics-cards message
Teaches you how to optimise your games for better performance
10 minutes of changes could give you 30, 40, 50% or even double, triple the improvements in lows
Something sheer money can't fix when trying to get the best for a game like Valorant
Never doubt a good budget build either
You don't need to spend 5 grand + for the absolute best
Build the pc performance to the resolution you intend to play at, and you can get something really impressive even at 1080p if you're trying to keep things a lot cheaper
Lol
burnt bough
Build the pc performance to the resolution you intend to play at, and you can ge...
ya i only play like cupel of games but i want a pc can still work perfectly in like 5 years
cyan ravine
Can't guarantee anything is futureproof in 5 years
But at the very least, a 7800x3d, and 7900xt
That's high end
It's your best shot at it anyway
It doesn't really get a whole lot better from there
In pure fps performance you'd have 4080, 7900XTX, 4090
Only 3 gpus beat that, nothing beats it cpu-wise rn
In raw averages anyway
A tuned 13600KF might be a stronger candidate for 1% and 0.1% lows here
But you lose the ability to upgrade the cpu later
And this late in the cycle? With Intel also degrading their CPU's at stock?
It's kinda hard to recommend imo
analog hearth
America since about 2000 (probably earlier, but it makes sense imo)
cyan ravine
America since about 2000 (probably earlier, but it makes sense imo)
Just America?
analog hearth
You right. The whole world lmaoo
limber oyster
My thoughts of Intel vs AMD
Intel=work/business
AMD=gaming
Like android vs apple
Apple is for businesses
Android is for everyday users
obsidian wigeon
CPUs? I disagree
Epyc servers selling like hot cakes
And AMD's 16 core rivaling Intel's 24
Also supercomputers using AMD cpus
limber oyster
Well that's because current gen Intels are trash
dusky hearth
Intel=work/business
AMD=gaming
never as clear cut as that
it's kinda like good and evil
it doesnt really exactly exist; good and evil is defined by us
tawny violet
Apple is for businesses
Android is for everyday users
Except an engineer would never be able to work on an Apple machine
Good luck running fluid dynamic sim software on Apple silicon
Apple's only strength is being eye-wateringly expensive so tryhard clout chasers will spend entire mortgages for a phone they'll replace in a year with a ~40% depreciation
weary galleon
Apple is used pretty commonly for content creation
Their M chip laptops are pretty great tbh
potent portal
Epyc servers selling like hot cakes
256c/512t epyc next gen, nothing Intel has comes close. It'll be around 600W TDP too, so less than 3W per core is crazy efficiency.
plucky timber
I wonder how Intel compares to AMD on consumer level workstations
potent portal
I wonder how Intel compares to AMD on consumer level workstations
HEDT is a bloodbath. Intel's current Sapphire Rapids Xeon is worse than last gen Threadripper from 3 years ago.
Probably because Sapphire Rapids was delayed for a few years
lol it takes 2 Xeons to beat one Epyc
Here we go, this is a little bit of a better chart with desktop parts for a baseline
plucky timber
HEDT is a bloodbath. Intel's current Sapphire Rapids Xeon is worse than last gen...
the price of decadence
limber oyster
Thoughts on the deepcool mystic 240?
drowsy thorn
So I screwed up and created a pool with a ssd that I just installed. I haven't formatted it. How do I undo the pool? It is in GTP.
cyan ravine
Thoughts on the deepcool mystic 240?
It's ok. FC fans though which are loud af
potent portal
So I screwed up and created a pool with a ssd that I just installed. I haven't f...
Do you happen to know the pool name or ID
Well you can always figure it out if not
potent portal
So I screwed up and created a pool with a ssd that I just installed. I haven't f...
In an admin Powershell (not cmd)
Get-StoragePool
Take note of the "FriendlyName"
Remove-StoragePool -FriendlyName Pool.Name
potent portal
as in a ZFS pool?
My guess is storage spaces
plucky timber
hmm
potent portal
In an admin Powershell (not cmd)
`Get-StoragePool`
Take note of the "FriendlyNam...
Right, you'll need to do it with powershell like I said here
drowsy thorn
potent portal
Looks like "Storage pool" is the name
drowsy thorn
There shouldn't be anything on it, as I just installed. I tried to revert back to a back up date which was yesterday.
potent portal
Looks like "Storage pool" is the name
Make sure to use the quotation marks or the space will be treated as the end of the command
drowsy thorn
Ok so it should be typed our
Remove-"storage pool" -friendly name pool.name?
Sorry this is something I've never done.
potent portal
Remove-StoragePool -FriendlyName "Storage pool"
drowsy thorn
Type it all like that or are those individual commands?
potent portal
That line is all one command
potent portal
Capitalize the S on "Storage pool" since that's an exact name
potent portal
Go back here to disk management and delete the D: partition
Then run the command again
drowsy thorn
drowsy thorn
I sincerely appreciate you. I have been banging my head against the wall for hours.
potent portal
Back in that powershell,
diskpart
list volume
potent portal
I sincerely appreciate you. I have been banging my head against the wall for hou...
Believe it or not something very similar has happened to me before, only I made the pool to test speeds and couldn't figure out how to get rid of it after.
drowsy thorn
potent portal
Ew it put the page file on D:
drowsy thorn
I feel like a dumb ass because I just fid something similar on my pc when I installed a new m.2
potent portal
select volume 5
delete volume
If that fails then I'll have you remove the page file
potent portal
delete volume override
drowsy thorn
potent portal
Dang I was afraid of that. One more set of steps to do.
Settings > System > Advanced system settings
Under "performance", hit settings
Advanced tab, change
Uncheck "automatically manage", select the D: drive, and select "no paging file"
Then press "set", and press ok in each dialog box until it tells you to restart. Do so.
potent portal
Yeah restart it then go back to that virtual memory dialog and make sure it's turned off
potent portal
Get it back to the virtual memory dialog at least
So you can make sure it says "none" next to D:
drowsy thorn
drowsy thorn
Do I need to put override or just delete volume 5
potent portal
exit
Remove-StoragePool -FriendlyName "Storage pool"
Still got the pesky pool to deal with
It should succeed now that there's no partitions on it
potent portal
You can use that then
drowsy thorn
Should I still use powershell?
potent portal
bu... there's no data?
potent portal
sigh Windows
drowsy thorn
How do I format it now. My brain is scrambled
potent portal
Down below, next to disk 2, there should be "unallocated space"
drowsy thorn
potent portal
New simple volume
Then just use the defaults for everything. You can change the drive label if you like.
potent portal
I'm not a beer guy but I'm always happy to help
drowsy thorn
I sincerely appreciate your time and effort. Thank you so much. I was going insane trying to figure this out.
potent portal
Good old Windows. Easy to screw it up, PITA to fix.
drowsy thorn
Do you mind if I add you as a friend incase I have any issue down the line?
Yes that is the truth!
potent portal
Sure, but I do still recommend talking in here just in case I'm not on or it's outside my areas of expertise. Some extra eyes on a problem can be a big help.
drowsy thorn
Absolutely. This chat is amazing with alot of amazing individuals. This is the second time someone has helped me figure out something where trying to research it myself got me no where.
unique pike
Could someone give me a hand I can't get my system Ryzen 5 to boot the LED boot and VGA is solid on
potent portal
What exact motherboard and processor
obsidian grove
I’m planning on building a new pc i heard it’s good idea to switch to Drr5 is that true?
potent portal
For new builds that is the best route
obsidian grove
For new builds that is the best route
Oh wait a question why is it better?
Perhaps a stupid question
potent portal
It's about twice as much bandwidth, so more information is able to be passed per second, which means the CPU is able to do more calculations
obsidian grove
Is it gonna be a “necessary” upgrade in the near future?
plucky timber
Define necessary
potent portal
I still use DDR3 on my server so it depends on what you're doing with it
Midrange or higher gaming, yeah you'll want the extra speed
Entry level gaming, even workstation tasks, you could hang on to the DDR4 for a while
We're definitely at the end of the road for DDR4, there will be no more support for it from this point on in any new CPUs.
worn wave
Any DDR3 systems are complete e-waste for me at this point. I get so many retired servers and systems at work that I just ignore DDR3 stuff since theres a lot of DDR4 systems that are e-waste now.
obsidian grove
Oh I’m still playing games such as fortnite phasmophobia with drr3
potent portal
Both of which easily run on a potato
obsidian grove
Bet and I wouldn’t be surprised if it ran better with a potato instead
mossy venture
Oh I’m still playing games such as fortnite phasmophobia with drr3
It really depends what your budget is to upgrade
If you have $600 to spend on a full pc, you're not going to be getting ddr5 in a balanced build
I'd say around $750 or so is where ddr5 fits in
obsidian grove
Ah yeah my current pc is a temporary I bought for 50 bucks
mossy venture
Any idea what your budget is to upgrade?
obsidian grove
I am still unsure but def +1000
mossy venture
I'll draft a general idea up
For cheaper you just swap gpu out, and if you want to spend more you can do this, and again swap gpu as you want
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YVtrjH
mossy venture
Oh yeah I live in Sweden so
Ah
cunning delta
whats the best 1T m.2 drive i can pair with a z390apro
cunning delta
ok thank you
cyan ravine
@cunning delta nvm it's this one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zR3H99/adata-sx8200-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-asx8200pnp-1tt-c
But go mp44L if you want something that can go faster later
This would be the best gen 3
cunning delta
but a mp44l works with that mobo still?
cyan ravine
Should do yeah, it should just run gen 3
PCIexpress is designed for reverse compatibility
So it should work in principle, I've never combined these specific two together before though
elfin flame
Should work yea, I was running a t500 on gen3 for a bit
Wouldn't see a reason why it wouldn't work unless board manu decided to be a dbag and lock it down or the SSD just hates gen3 for osme ungodly reason lol
cunning delta
ok ill try it
elfin flame
cheers
cyan ravine
Wouldn't see a reason why it wouldn't work unless board manu decided to be a dba...
It becomes a giglet
This one doesn't count
elfin flame
It becomes a giglet
But an ssd isn't a man :(
cyan ravine
But an ssd isn't a man :(
It's 2024 wym
cyan ravine
Lol
crimson zinc
@cyan ravine would you mind making a $1000> build
Nothing fancy needed
Just on the road rn and I don’t have good internet
elfin flame
felix send me your dream build if no budget with current consumer only
no enterprise, and xeon/threadripper pro not allowed
cyan ravine
Mmmm
elfin flame
potent portal
So add as many 4090s as you can fit, got it
elfin flame
heheh
cyan ravine
Had to think about it for a minute
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LvNZTY
potent portal
Really, XTX over a 4090?
cyan ravine
Not, really?
I mean, I'm not particular tbh
I was actually considering the dream monitor with it and maybe doing 7900 XT lol
If a 4090 fit I wouldn't mind
potent portal
FE should fit
cyan ravine
Only the founder's fits unless I want pepega ventus temps
So much more expensive tho
2x the price lol
I wouldn't feel chuffed about that at all
I could openly brag about a $930 XTX tho
Or $690 7900 XT
This would feel so clean as a setup
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nnC9mD
https://wooting.io/wooting-60he
I think I'd prefer this tbh
elfin flame
wow you wouldn't want another OLED monitor
cyan ravine
No
elfin flame
you're not the felix i once remembered
cyan ravine
I'm not really like, driven anymore to high performance lol
elfin flame
you're just a pigeon-egg
cyan ravine
Just something solid
elfin flame
like like a pigeon-egg
elfin flame
i haven't even said my insult yet to anyone
cyan ravine
A pigeon-egg, a SPACE CASE
elfin flame
a woman
potent portal
I guess I'm the high end dream build guy now https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rNjg7R
coarse python
I guess I'm the high end dream build guy now https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rNjg7...
How do you run 7600 ram ? Or is the fabric decoupled
limber oyster
Can someone assemble me a 240mm radiator cooling loop for a Itachi 6800xt? No CPU. Case is a revolt 3
elfin flame
Yea, thermalright notte 240mm
limber oyster
I meant full list
elfin flame
You want to custom loop a 6800XT?
limber oyster
Yeah? How else am I gonna water cool it?
limber oyster
I don't need anything stronger, but it's been running hot
I don't want to replace it just because of the cooling
potent portal
How do you run 7600 ram ? Or is the fabric decoupled
Fabric is decoupled permanently and uclk runs in 2:1 mode. On a good board with 2 memory slots you can run really fast memory on Ryzen and it's more stable than Intel.
elfin flame
I don't need anything stronger, but it's been running hot
Do you run a default or custom fan curve???
When did you buy the 6800XT
And did you buy it used
elfin flame
💀 you're better off buying a new GPU for that whole price
What case are you using the 6800XT in?
potent portal
Sell the 6800 XT for $350-400, add that to the $580, and you've got a 7900 XTX.
cyan ravine
Or 4080S
We've had 4080 refurbs on ebay for a while for 890-ish
#tech-deals message
Worth thinking about
elfin flame
Do you want validation or advice?
limber oyster
I've debated it
cursive wharf
CPU+Pump combos should only be gotten when necessary (ex: ITX), perfs worse than separate components. Should also be able to find Bykski kits on Aliexpress for cheaper.
limber oyster
But nothing I play would need it
limber oyster
CPU+Pump combos should only be gotten when necessary (ex: ITX), perfs worse than...
Thermaltake tower 200 is itx
potent portal
It's ITX technically but it's not small
You're also notably missing a reservoir in your lists
elfin flame
It's ITX technically but it's not small
Popcorn machine*****
dusky hearth
Me after eating too many multivitamins and my pee looks cloudy
limber oyster
You're also notably missing a reservoir in your lists
The CPU block acts as res/pump
vague oracle
going to go thermaltake tower 200
Don’t bother, you’re wasting your time
And no the cpu block doesn’t act as a res
Unless you have top of the line hardware and money burning a hole in your pocket, it is a complete waste of time especially on a 6800xt
If temps are the issue, just repaste the GPU
cursive wharf
You're also notably missing a reservoir in your lists
CPU+Pump combo also usually has small reservoir. Will have less liquid tho, so less heat soak. Also means sometimes harder to drain loop cuz no big res, but that kinda depends on loop config.
cyan ravine
I've looked at that one
It does have a small res yes
Though this is tangent to instead just buying an XTX/4080 for 900 and downclocking it even so it runs like a 6800xt with desirable temps
cyan ravine
I did make this suggestion before about a waterloop for this case, but I am pretty sure I was suggesting it under the notion of an XTX lol
cyan ravine
You could really do XTX + 7800X3D on a good enough fpi 240mm
ya I did lol
cursive wharf
@limber oyster The way to put things here, would you spend $700 (custom loop and case) on a painting, statue, figurine, or any other art thing? If yes, then go ahead. If no, then you should reconsider as you're spending a lot of money on form for something that also has function (which is also unlike most art stuff tbh, paintings have no function other than looks lol).
dusky hearth
Painting (used)
cyan ravine
Painting (help)
limber oyster
If temps are the issue, just repaste the GPU
Already did. Paste and pads
limber oyster
CPU+Pump combo also usually has small reservoir. Will have less liquid tho, so l...
Drain valve
vague oracle
You are wasting so much money for no reason but go for it I guess
tawdry wyvern
4070 or 4070 super
what should I pick up
and will it pair nicely with a ryzen 7 5700x
lone flame
on paper a 4070 super
unless you have budget concerns
super performs better, no reason not to get it
cyan ravine
Get the pny 3 fan xlr8 4070 super
limber oyster
You are wasting so much money for no reason but go for it I guess
No need for 24GB vram, don't need am5....
cyan ravine
It's 585 rn
lone flame
7800 XT/ 7900 GRE could also be in the convo unless you want just nvidia
limber oyster
Cooling is the only issue
cyan ravine
7800 XT/ 7900 GRE could also be in the convo unless you want just nvidia
And a little better for pure performance ye
vague oracle
Cooling is the only issue
Your temps are fine, set a more aggressive if you want cooler
24 vram and AM5 has a use, custom loops are purely for show
tawdry wyvern
7800 XT/ 7900 GRE could also be in the convo unless you want just nvidia
I mean yeah but will it compare when using ray tracing and all that?
limber oyster
more aggressive? How can it be more aggressive?
elfin flame
😭 my temps on a 6800XT are 60-70c max with steel nomad benchmark, you messed up your repad and repaste probably
vague oracle
Are your gpu fans at 100% the whole time?
lone flame
I mean yeah but will it compare when using ray tracing and all that?
amd has come a long way in raytracing, obv nvidia is better, but 7800 XT for example will beat out 4070 super in everything non rt
vague oracle
My 6950xt never reached more than 80C in furmark, like RMe said, you probably messed up the repaste/pad
tawdry wyvern
amd has come a long way in raytracing, obv nvidia is better, but 7800 XT for exa...
mmmm ur making me rethink now 🥲
lone flame
My 6950xt never reached more than 80C in furmark, like RMe said, you probably me...
i need to do a furmark with mine
lone flame
mmmm ur making me rethink now 🥲
theres actually some competition between amd/nvidia at that price point which is rare for this gen of cards lol
elfin flame
😭 my temps on a 6800XT are 60-70c max with steel nomad benchmark, you messed up...
And mine is stuffed into an ITX case
Albeit... all mesh, but it used to be in an nr200 for a while and would never see above 80c unless it was scorching hot in my room because the AC was broken
cyan ravine
I mean yeah but will it compare when using ray tracing and all that?
There are two types of people in this world, those who've tried rtx and love it to death.
And the remaining 9/10 who stop loving it and don't really mind if it's gone 💀
4070S is a good card, if you target $600
tawdry wyvern
will DLSS be worth it?
elfin flame
There are two types of people in this world, those who've tried rtx and love it ...
Me fr, but in cp2077 and control, which were the prime showcase for RT, it's cool. I'd never play with RT on the whole time though, just to take pictures lol
cyan ravine
Not really imo
lone flame
There are two types of people in this world, those who've tried rtx and love it ...
seeing my 6950xt crumble using rtx in minecraft bedrock was depressing ngl lol
vague oracle
Personally coming from a 4090 owner, RT is pretty much a gimmick
cyan ravine
Me fr, but in cp2077 and control, which were the prime showcase for RT, it's coo...
Pretty much the 9/10 in a nutshell
limber oyster
Basically
tawdry wyvern
mainly for COD since im thinking about getting the new BO6 coming up and i know last time I played cod DLSS helped 😂
cyan ravine
Reflex helps, dlss 2.0 helps a tiny bit
vague oracle
I always have RT on just because the 4090 is so strong that I’m still getting 165fps+ with it on
lone flame
Me fr, but in cp2077 and control, which were the prime showcase for RT, it's coo...
real
cyan ravine
Cod is also currently an AMD favoured title
elfin flame
Yessirrrrrrr
cyan ravine
Sometimes in the realm of 30+% fps gain over nvidia
And this is unique to cod specifically
Not trying to be biased
tawdry wyvern
Oh damn i really havent been up to date with this stuff
elfin flame
Wasn't battlefield moree AMD?
elfin flame
Hm
lone flame
Not trying to be biased
you spent over 2k on both gen flagships you prob have a decent right to be lmao
elfin flame
Ghost of Tsushima they released an indirect hotfix for AMD GPUs
lone flame
bros like do i play on my xtx or 4090 system today
tawdry wyvern
ima go to microcenter today soon so im just trying to come up with a conclusion
cyan ravine
Ghost of Tsushima they released an indirect hotfix for AMD GPUs
Did you see frost's vid thumbnail
cyan ravine
ima go to microcenter today soon so im just trying to come up with a conclusion
7800xt, 7900 gre, 4070S, 7900xt all good choices
elfin flame
Dude, I was playing today with the 6800XT and I was getting mad artifacting. Only just for that game, not any other
lone flame
ima go to microcenter today soon so im just trying to come up with a conclusion
either option is good,(7800,4070s)
vague oracle
bros like do i play on my xtx or 4090 system today
Hey stop stalking me
cyan ravine
Pick the one that goes with your power supply
lone flame
overall im hearing amd
i am kinda an amd fanboy ignore me
tawdry wyvern
currently have a 850w
vague oracle
Intel>AMD
cyan ravine
Also go with the gpu that gets the most value per dollar, don't spend way over msrp
vague oracle
Ggez
vague oracle
Intel #1
tawdry wyvern
will it bottleneck the ryzen 7 5700x? i doubt it right?
cyan ravine
On 1440p it won't
lone flame
probably not unless you play on like 720
vague oracle
Yeah, get a 4090 instead
cyan ravine
Which is what all these cards are for, 1440p
cyan ravine
Yeah, get a 4090 instead
Not this one, this one is 4k
lone flame
if you consider amd, 7900 GRE can overclock decently well and get close to a 7900xt
elfin flame
I love my 1440p
cyan ravine
if you consider amd, 7900 GRE can overclock decently well and get close to a 790...
With a good bin yes
vague oracle
4090 + 1440p is 
cyan ravine
Met 2 people so far that got meh gre bins
lone flame
will it bottleneck the ryzen 7 5700x? i doubt it right?
but if you want to go nvidia, nothing wrong with 4070 super
cyan ravine
So no 7900xt-ish perf
lone flame
Met 2 people so far that got meh gre bins
tawdry wyvern
sometimes I move my pc to a 1080p monitor which I know is eh gotta upgrade that but pretty sure 4070s is overkill for 1080p as well right
cyan ravine
1080p is too weak
elfin flame
Being here and reading build-chat vs. the hardware/pc build chat in Intel server. What a difference
No LCD AIO mentioned at all
cyan ravine
Like I wouldn't bother with any 1080p screen
elfin flame
😂
elfin flame
Guys you should pair 14900K with 128GB of DDR4 🤓
cyan ravine
Or maybe tuned 13600k
lone flame
1080p is too weak
i didnt upgrade my monitor until feb to 1440p 170hz, before then i was using a smart tv, 1366x738 or smth, i had my 6950xt plugged into it for like a month lmao
cyan ravine
The scaling is too low at 1080p for a higher gpu
You will not be able to use the gpu at full performance
Monitor will hold it back
lone flame
Being here and reading build-chat vs. the hardware/pc build chat in Intel server...
red team discord >>
let me go the intel one and post my full amd setup
elfin flame
Nah, I hear AMD discord is just full of AMD wankers
lone flame
Nah, I hear AMD discord is just full of AMD wankers
honestly i have no clue im rarely active there
potent portal
I have a 3080 ti and I've only ever used RT for more than a quick screenshot in Control and Minecraft.
Just felt like adding that in.
lone flame
I have a 3080 ti and I've only ever used RT for more than a quick screenshot in ...
real
elfin flame
Ebic
lone flame
And bad marketing employees with unlikable personalities
two of the employees i talked to once were chill, theres a representative from sapphire in there who was chill
that was awhile ago
tawdry wyvern
I have a 3080 ti and I've only ever used RT for more than a quick screenshot in ...
adding onto that is when fortnite first released rt as well
only time
elfin flame
I have a 3080 ti and I've only ever used RT for more than a quick screenshot in ...
I almost forgot, RT in non-gaming is pretty neat
I used it a handful of times during my undergrad research
potent portal
The problem with fortnite is it's a competitive game where you want your fps, so RT looks nice but actively hurts your game performance if you care about that at all
elfin flame
Yes!
lone flame
I have a 3080 ti and I've only ever used RT for more than a quick screenshot in ...
rtx in bedrock looks good but tanks my gpu, shaders in java ran fine
i lost this world btw it was on a realm 
elfin flame
Ghost of Tsushima with RT would be
HOLY, I would be in there
Taking pics
And that would be my playthru
tawdry wyvern
The problem with fortnite is it's a competitive game where you want your fps, so...
oh no yeah i agree with u but im just saying i used RT just to see how the game looked liked with it on then turned it off
lone flame
HOLY, I would be in there
better make me feel like im there
potent portal
i lost this world btw it was on a realm <:EG_Tired:784963574631104532>
This is why I host local servers lol
elfin flame
If they have any open box
potent portal
The cheapest that isn't a Ventus 2x
elfin flame
Yep
cyan ravine
which 4070s from microcenter yall recommend
The cheapest
elfin flame
😂
cyan ravine
The cheapest that isn't a Ventus 2x
This
No ventus or slim 2x = good enough
Anything but those
elfin flame
@tawdry wyvern you can message microcenter and ask if they have any GPUs in stock that are open box btw before you head in
lone flame
hot take but id justify spending in the range of 50$ extra for an aib that looks better
cyan ravine
Hopefully sub 600 otherwise I send you an amazon link
tawdry wyvern
Hopefully sub 600 otherwise I send you an amazon link
send me some links as well
potent portal
hot take but id justify spending in the range of 50$ extra for an aib that looks...
I wouldn't call that a hot take, it's a pretty common opinion
lone flame
I wouldn't call that a hot take, it's a pretty common opinion
well in here everytime its asked its "get the cheapest"
again thats prob due to budget and lists people give
elfin flame
Open box carries same warranty of AIB from your purchase date, so you won't have to worry about losing warranty period. And 30 day returns/exchanges if it's bad
potent portal
Unless you're spending $50 extra on a $200 GPU because then you just want to get a tier up instead
elfin flame
Since it's microcenter
cyan ravine
send me some links as well
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QgcgXL/powercolor-fighter-oc-radeon-rx-7900-gre-16-gb-video-card-rx-7900-gre-16g-foc
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6CkH99/pny-xlr8-gaming-verto-epic-x-rgb-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-vcg4070s12tfxxpb1-o
potent portal
MC price matches too if you find something cheaper elsewhere
elfin flame
To get ahold of their messaging line, you just go to MC website and the contact page will have a "text us" option
potent portal
or was it nitro+
This
tawdry wyvern
thank you guys again
elfin flame
Good luck! Let us know what you find
lone flame
i swear when gre came out i heard a video say get one with like highest board power
cyan ravine
No point
potent portal
i swear when gre came out i heard a video say get one with like highest board po...
And now you can flash that higher power vbios onto a diff one
cyan ravine
If you try push it to the limit it won't be daily stable
elfin flame
Good luck! Let us know what you find
And whatever you do... Don't go looking for help in the intel servers 🤣
lone flame
And whatever you do... Don't go looking for help in the intel servers 🤣
whats actually so bad about them
cyan ravine
A reasonable enough model with modest clocks will go faster enough
elfin flame
Felix and I had a long long discussion about the "specialness" of it
potent portal
whats actually so bad about them
A lot, but for one they'll tell you to buy intel for everything. Even for gaming, they'll recommend a 14900K still.
lone flame
isnt there a 14900ks that crashes since its clocked so high or smth
potent portal
isnt there a 14900ks that crashes since its clocked so high or smth
It's so much worse than that
elfin flame
Not even that, but there's one person in there who tries to recommend horrible combinations for PC builds for workstation use
And people actually listen to her
😭
lone flame
unfortunate
potent portal
The 14700K, 14900K/S, and 13900K/S have almost a 50/50 shot of being unstable at stock settings
cyan ravine
isnt there a 14900ks that crashes since its clocked so high or smth
2 in 10 14900K's are stock stable
elfin flame
She was recommending 14900K and 128GB of DDR4 to someone for videeo editing
potent portal
2 in 10 14900K's are stock stable
And that was only in one test iirc
elfin flame
LOL yea, I remember getting reprimanded by an intel employee for posting that article in the server
lone flame
as someone who is too young to know anything before ryzen it makes my future pc upgrades an easy pick for amd cpus
elfin flame
😂
potent portal
Plus those were all brand new CPUs and that doesn't account for the degradation that occurs rapidly when you shove 300A+ into a CPU
tawdry wyvern
I was thinking of price matching the PNY 4070 super since on amazon its 599 while at micro center its 620
potent portal
300w
Because that's the only way they could compete with AMD, shove more power, get more clocks, close the gap
crimson zinc
I was thinking of price matching the PNY 4070 super since on amazon its 599 whil...
you can also go used
cyan ravine
I was thinking of price matching the PNY 4070 super since on amazon its 599 whil...
Newegg link I sent is 575 if shipping is cheaper
Though again, for fortnite and cod, amd is currently the faster choice
lone flame
Because that's the only way they could compete with AMD, shove more power, get m...
i def want to get an X3D chip at some point thats crazy tech
cyan ravine
Dx12 pro amd usually edges it by 10% or more
tawdry wyvern
Though again, for fortnite and cod, amd is currently the faster choice
mainly cod for upcoming bo6
lone flame
espically with how well 5800x3d did
cyan ravine
I finally worked out why every pro suggests nvidia for fortnite
Cos performance mode is trash for anything not an igpu
potent portal
It is a pretty insane chip but if you're not in a hurry to upgrade, next gen is supposed to match X3D on non 3D SKUs
cyan ravine
You use dx12 pro and it fixes everything
ZTT taught me a lot
@tawdry wyvern #graphics-cards message
elfin flame
Dx12 pro amd usually edges it by 10% or more
Edges... 🤯
cyan ravine
Have a watch of the vid if you're curious
lone flame
It is a pretty insane chip but if you're not in a hurry to upgrade, next gen is ...
id like to make a jump to 12 cores eventually i think, once i get a better education, more money etc, id like to get into astrophotography proper like ive mentioned before
rn im not in a hurry to upgrade
maybe a case swap by end of year
potent portal
Next gen might also have 12 cores per CCX. Or at least next next gen if not.
So no gaming issues with 12 cores.
lone flame
thats what ive hoped
the 6 core per thing makes alot more sense to me now then it did a few months ago
they are called ccds correct
love how i asked that after claming to understand it nvm
cyan ravine
😶
cursive wharf
rtx in bedrock looks good but tanks my gpu, shaders in java ran fine
Kinda funny that MC RTX doesnt even look better than SEUS PTGI.
Not SEUS, but also java better cuz mods. Cant get this render distance in Bedrock while still being playable https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749008037481676811/1235363275588239420/image.jpg?ex=6651c2f4&is=66507174&hm=39428431880bd4b3a6efb76ee9c20c70872ac9676e40e33b709dac28ed67172f&
torn sluice
aight so, cough cough BASICALLY
im running a Ryzen 5 7600X, with a 7800xt, and 32GBs of DDR5 (2 sticks) @ 4800Mhz in my ASRock x670E Steel Legend, and its kinda nice but id love to use the full 6400mhz my rams rated for, though i suffer crashes everytime i try to boot, and i checked the support list, and my ram IS supported
power supplys a 1000W 80+ Gold, and its been fine for other stress tests and whatnot, i dont believe its a power issue, but could the CPU itsself be that limiting factor?
because according to the QL list it does support it, but then i read reviews or forums saying it cant run without being unstable or constantly crashing, and some where it can no problems
potent portal
6400 is kinda optimistic for Ryzen 7000
It's been done without desync on uclk but it's not easy
Personally my chip does 6200 perfectly stable but 6400 doesn't even boot
6000 is a much more common speed that almost every CPU memory controller can hit
Basically, if your memory kit doesn't have a profile for 6000 or 6200 then try setting XMP/EXPO on, then manually set it to 6000 and it should work with no extra tweaks.
If you're willing to play around with voltages, timings, and resistances then you can probably get 6200, sometimes 6400, stable.
Oh and make sure UCLK DIV mode is 1:1
torn sluice
ive tried to run it at that speed, the highest ive gotten it to rurn at is 4800 before i started having problems, when i checked the bios there was a profile specifically for 6000, i tried to run that without changing anything else settings wise and i got a crash about 5 minutes in after booting into windows
potent portal
Is it a g.skill kit
torn sluice
if i could even get to 6000 stabily id be satisfied, though ill mention im not too knowledgeable with overclocking, ive adjusted timings before but other than that, not much else
unn no, i was gonna get that but by the time i was gonna buy it, the exact kit i wanted sold out so i went with corsair
potent portal
That was going to be my second guess
Those are the 2 most problematic brands of memory on Ryzen
torn sluice
D a m n
potent portal
Hopefully Corsair didn't lock your PMIC and you can adjust MEM VDD because it's likely you need more on that
torn sluice
maaan i wish i could like screenshare whilw in the bios
potent portal
Possibly also more SoC voltage if you have bad luck
torn sluice
lemme see if i can check that real quick
thank you so much btw cus ive been fooling around trying to figure out more about this for weeks now
potent portal
I can tell you more specifics if we figure out what memory die the sticks use
If you load up CPU-Z and go to the SPD tab it should say "DRAM Manuf." and that'll give us a good clue
If it's Hynix I have a good video for you to watch and copy timings and voltages from
mossy venture
Hopefully Corsair didn't lock your PMIC and you can adjust MEM VDD because it's ...
It could be mixed dies
potent portal
That's true, I forgot Corsair was doing that
One way or the other we need to see that CPU-Z tab
SPD info for both sticks
elfin flame
@urban galleon State your PC needs here and the budget. Someone will help you out :)
urban galleon
<@148271872449052673> State your PC needs here and the budget. Someone will help...
Ok thanks
elfin flame
Do you have a Microcenter nearby by any chance?
dusky hearth
where did they go 🧐
limber oyster
Are your gpu fans at 100% the whole time?
Sorry, my service is trash at work.