#building-and-recc-chat

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cyan ravine
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I've been sent two pots instead of one before

elfin flame
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Pots?

cyan ravine
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That was...exciting I guess

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Yeah for cooking

elfin flame
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I got sent a bean pot in place of lawn mower blades

cyan ravine
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Nice

elfin flame
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And then the blades showed up 2 hours later

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So I got a free bean pot

cyan ravine
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Did you put beans in it

crimson zinc
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I was just hating on armoury crate

cyan ravine
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Armoury crate has been ok of late

elfin flame
cyan ravine
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Use openrgb if you don't like it

elfin flame
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@dusky hearth what's that alternative to AC you use

cyan ravine
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DC

elfin flame
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I'm gonna DC you

cyan ravine
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I could hear that giggle

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That pause was extremely audible

elfin flame
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I face palmed

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😂

cyan ravine
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Yeah yeah

crimson zinc
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I switched storage to something a little cheaper

cyan ravine
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NV2 is a lottery

elfin flame
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Armoury crate on my laptop is fine, not a fan, but don't hate it since I need it rn

cyan ravine
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You either get worse than alternatives or maybe better

crimson zinc
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I’m hoping I win

cyan ravine
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It works and has worked for a long time well

crimson zinc
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Desktop has not

cyan ravine
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Nope

crimson zinc
elfin flame
cyan ravine
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Only recently has it gotten somewhat stable

elfin flame
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This is it

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That's the alternative i guess

cyan ravine
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Ye alec showed us that

elfin flame
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I haven't tried to use it yet

elfin flame
lone flame
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felix

crimson zinc
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I enjoy gigabytes software more than crate

cyan ravine
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I thought it was Alec

elfin flame
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"pookie" as he calls himself

cyan ravine
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dookie?

elfin flame
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Yea

cyan ravine
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@tidal sphinx hey dookie

elfin flame
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He sent the github link me thinks

cyan ravine
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was it you who gave us an alternative to dookie armoury crate

cyan ravine
elfin flame
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LOL you pinged the wrong person

cyan ravine
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Welp

elfin flame
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@dusky hearth

cyan ravine
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I'm not unpinging that

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They can join us

elfin flame
cyan ravine
elfin flame
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I need context!

cyan ravine
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I'm not saying anything

lone flame
# cyan ravine Felix here

random ass question but do you have like formal education in pc stuff it seems like you have an answer to every question

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i stalk the server

cyan ravine
lone flame
elfin flame
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Aren't you mech e rn felix

cyan ravine
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Yes

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Mech E taught me nothing about a computer

elfin flame
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That's what i thought lol

cyan ravine
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If I was Elec E, well, then it'd be different

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My formal depth is a breadboard

elfin flame
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But same curiosity about learning how things work

cyan ravine
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True

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I like puzzles

elfin flame
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And how to apply that

cyan ravine
elfin flame
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Yes

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You are a puzzle

cyan ravine
elfin flame
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We've seen that in other places

cyan ravine
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Wait

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YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BOXES AGAIN

elfin flame
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Pandora's box

cyan ravine
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Strange question

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Why are Asian food places so good at making small containers fit so much food

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It's like a genie's lamp

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Every time you get something to go

elfin flame
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Cuz Asians want the most for the buck 😁

cyan ravine
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Like a cereal bowl but 4x more dense

elfin flame
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We love a good deal kekw

cyan ravine
elfin flame
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Yes

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Food giving is a love language for Asians

cyan ravine
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I love it

elfin flame
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Not all, but commonly that is the case

cyan ravine
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I feel like now I could travel most of Asia and not feel adverse to food

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Just avoid places that do like snake head

mossy venture
cyan ravine
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I don't eat my natural australian enemies

mossy venture
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especially jewish grandmas

elfin flame
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It is definitely for me, if I host you, then you're getting a lot of leftovers

elfin flame
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😂

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When I say Asian, I mean middle east as well because people forget it is apart of Asia

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Rather they selectively keep it out of what's considered Asian

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Regardless, good food culture, diverse

cyan ravine
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Middle east to me is like a DDR4 LGA1700 board

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Like that's a really cool board

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But are you new gen or old gen

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Are you Asia or Europe like

elfin flame
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Eurasia moment

cyan ravine
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Geographically it's definitely the Asian continent

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Like Russia

elfin flame
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I would not consider turkey as part of asia

cyan ravine
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Turkey is europe yeah

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It's this weird middle ground

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Also African continent

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💀

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Guess my comparison doesn't make a lot of sense at all if I think about it

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I have long wanted to go to Egypt though

elfin flame
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Not really, but i got the point

cyan ravine
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Since I was a kid I was fascinated with Ancient Egypt culture

elfin flame
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Because ddr4 is distinct from ddr5

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While middle east is convoluted

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As far as categorization

cyan ravine
elfin flame
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Haha

cyan ravine
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I mean

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Let's be real

elfin flame
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No

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I want to be fake

cyan ravine
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Europe and Asia are very much connected

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And are in fact an entire continent

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But by our definition we treat them exclusive rather than inclusive

elfin flame
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That's where lga1700 ddr4 and ddr5 come in common

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Same socket

cyan ravine
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Indeed

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But where does Africa come in

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Maybe it's the SSD's

elfin flame
cyan ravine
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Ye

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It's easier to categorise

elfin flame
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Not that it's right, but it's also not wrong???

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Context matters

cyan ravine
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💀

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We're wandering into avoidable waters

elfin flame
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That's why I'm bouncing on it

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😂

cyan ravine
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Boing

elfin flame
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But anyway, back to FOOD

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So yea, we Asians love giving foodge and use it to show our love

cyan ravine
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I've had a huge craving for singapore noodles lately

elfin flame
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Laksa? Well guess that's more Malaysian

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But they are shared between the 2

cyan ravine
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Hell I'd have Laksa

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I could eat either all day

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It's just so nice to me rn

elfin flame
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Dan dan sounds good rn

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Dammit Felix

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Whenever we talk about food, it makes me hungry for noodles

cyan ravine
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Dim sum omg

elfin flame
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STOP

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You're building my hunger

cyan ravine
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Building my own too

elfin flame
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Build a PC? More like build a heaping plate of noodles and dim sum

cyan ravine
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Build chat more like recipe chat

elfin flame
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I think I'm gonna buy dim sum tomorrow

cyan ravine
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Dammit

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I need sum

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😭

elfin flame
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Now you have to

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Send pics when you do

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😁

cyan ravine
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I'm going to be out tomorrow

elfin flame
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Out to get dim sum

cyan ravine
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Maybe there's a place I can drop into

crimson zinc
cyan ravine
crimson zinc
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Pro tip; don’t stop with av in gif search

wary gale
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Chat how can I reset a ssd without being able to access the computer?

potent portal
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Access in what way

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Physically opening it or running it

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And if your answer is both I recommend remote desktop tools

wary gale
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I wanna wipe it entirely

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So when I take it out of the laptop

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I can put it into a future build

potent portal
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A lot of laptops (and desktops for that matter) have a "secure erase SSD" function in the BIOS

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If it doesn't then you can boot a Linux OS off a USB to erase things

wary gale
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So if I use the ssd in my build

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And go on bios

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It most likely will have an erase feature?

potent portal
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Most modern boards have it yes

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Pretty much every one I've looked at from the last 5 years or so

wary gale
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Mine is a asrock motherboard

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Which is kinda outdated

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Like the trashy ones

potent portal
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How outdated

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What CPU is in it

wary gale
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Not sure

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i7 12900kf

potent portal
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Oh that's not outdated at all

wary gale
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Oh Alr

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Also

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Do you know what is possible to take out of a laptop

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And to put in a pc build

potent portal
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I have asrock too, let me find it in my bios and hopefully it's in the same place for you

mossy venture
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ssd

wary gale
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Is that it?

potent portal
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SSD is pretty much the long and short of it

mossy venture
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i actually like asrock bios

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prefer them to msis

wary gale
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Not even ram?

mossy venture
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no

potent portal
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Almost every other part is proprietary or a different form factor

wary gale
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Damn that sucks

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I mean

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I have a faulty laptop

potent portal
wary gale
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The gpu just gave up completely

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So I wanna take everything I can

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Cause I can’t rlly sell it

mossy venture
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you could for parts

wary gale
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No one would be interested tbh

potent portal
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You can sell it "for parts" on ebay and someone will buy it

mossy venture
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not sure how much youd get, what were the specs?

wary gale
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They are garbage

mossy venture
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i doubt that

wary gale
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Like hot garbage

potent portal
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Doesn't matter

wary gale
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Well kinda

potent portal
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brb snapping pic of bios

wary gale
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8 gigs of ram i7 12900kf 1660 super 512gb storage

mossy venture
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?

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thats not a cpu, and kf isnt a mobile sku either

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any kf cpu is desktop

wary gale
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Oh

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Nvm I confused it for my desktop

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I don’t know the cpu

mossy venture
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10750h?

potent portal
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Turns out you don't need a pic it's right under the "tools" menu

wary gale
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But Ik the gpu is a 1660

mossy venture
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id guess around 125-200

wary gale
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It’s faulty tho

mossy venture
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yeah

wary gale
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Would somebody still want it tho

mossy venture
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yes

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people repair laptops and resell them

wary gale
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8 gigs of ram

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Can go for like 30 bucks

potent portal
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Nah more than that

wary gale
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30-50

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50 maybe

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Depends what brand rlly

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All ik is the cpu is a core i7

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Don’t know the exact model

mossy venture
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ok

potent portal
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If it's a 1660 maybe it's a 10700H

wary gale
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U can run 2 ssds in a build right?

potent portal
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There's no limit

wary gale
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Would u need extra cables tho?

potent portal
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There's a number of slots on a board but you can get expansion cards

mossy venture
wary gale
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It’s not an acre

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Acer

mossy venture
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My dude

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Ok

wary gale
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Dang sold for 182

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Not bad

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I mean I bought for 900

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So terrible

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But uh I mean hey

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I can put it towards my new build

mossy venture
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id probably do starting bid around 150

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if theres a sticker on the back of the laptop theres probably a model number or smthn

wary gale
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Problem is tho I’m in a international country right now

mossy venture
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if you find it i can find the specs out

wary gale
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So it would cost a lot to ship it atm

potent portal
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You can sell local to wherever you are

mossy venture
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honestly might sell for more lol

wary gale
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Hint I’m in Iraq

potent portal
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Keyboards are $15 and easy swaps

wary gale
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I mean I’ll try

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Ima start cheap

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And just put 150

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See how hi I can get

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Doesnt eBay take a lot of money

potent portal
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Depends on their mood that day but they take anywhere from 0-12%

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There's often promos for reduced or no fees up to a limit

wary gale
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I searched up stuff in my area

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Literally little to nothing

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However I can put it on Facebook

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Facebook is popular

subtle halo
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@bitter mason your next porject

dim reef
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just bought the parts

tawny violet
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looks like a pretty good list

dusky hearth
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They have to lift the whole canister of servers every few months or smth to scrape off all the bio growth on it

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I think it was half a year

cyan ravine
dim reef
wary gale
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Jp I have a very similar one tho

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@cyan ravine

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Wanna talk more about tech

dim reef
plucky timber
wary gale
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@potent portal yo

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I found a oled monitor 240 hz 0.04 ms response time for 380

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Not bad right?

potent portal
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Used?

wary gale
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Yea but still looks good

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On Facebook marketplace

potent portal
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Yeah that's pretty good

mossy venture
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Just make sure no burn in

thorn mural
potent portal
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5600 beats the 3700X in gaming and it's the same or cheaper on AliExpress

wary gale
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@thorn mural

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Very slow parts

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What’s your budget

mossy venture
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It's an alright build, but I second what fal said, I would get the 5600

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Noticeable jump, even if you won't use aliexpress it shouldn't cost too much more and would be worthwhile

limber oyster
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Thoughts? Already have PSU

plucky timber
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ITX tax

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could be optimized

limber oyster
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I already have the psu

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And I need itx with wifi and two nvme slots

plucky timber
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oh

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yeah in that case that's not too bad

mossy venture
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as long as youre not spending 200 on that psu, good list

limber oyster
mossy venture
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ah missed that

limber oyster
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Got it for $125 at microcenter a while back

wary gale
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Case recommendations anyone?

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Nvm got some

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But dang new egg is way cheaper than Amazon

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Put the exact same stuff and it’s 100 bucks more expensive

dim reef
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for dual tower fans specifically the phantom spirit se, could i move the second fan to the other side ehere it doesnt cover the ram?

autumn wolf
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you can, doesnt really matter where the fans are on it so long as its in the correct configuration to push air out to the back

coarse python
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got a 5600,4060ti if in my place what would you guys upgrade next

analog hearth
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CPU

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GPU is fine for now but the better CPU will help for a better GPU later

coarse python
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yeah i was shocked when i saw dipping below 60fps in the cyberpunk dlc

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gpu usage also dropped

coarse python
cyan ravine
dusky hearth
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My PC build was a mix between a few companies because it was cheaper on some others

mossy venture
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5600 is plenty for a gpu like the 7800xt or similar at 1440p

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I could see 7900 gre being ok

analog hearth
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I got slight bottlenecking on my 5600G with my 6800 XT

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That was also only COD and it was a minor bottleneck at 1440p, so you're probably right also given that idk what the settings were for the game

cyan ravine
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5600G is also essentially a 3600X with an igpu

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Almost the same, not quite

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Half the cache makes a difference

crimson zinc
analog hearth
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haven't checked the specs in a while lol

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forgot that it's not just a 5600 with graphics lol

potent portal
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Totally different design yep

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You can run fast memory on the G chips too without desync problems.

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I see people run 4800 1:1

cyan ravine
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If you can manage it high enough you can make up *for the cache loss on the G chip

potent portal
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Works like that for several games at least

burnt bough
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guys am going to buy a new pc but idk what would i get cpu one of my friends says to wait one month for the zen 5 and other says i5 12600k is better
and i want 4070 as gpu

potent portal
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There's no world where the 12600K is better than a similar price AM5 chip

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Unless there's some crazy sale I don't know about

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Zen 5 is also going to be a lot more than one month. Maybe 5-6 until we see desktop parts.

burnt bough
burnt bough
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idk what to buy

potent portal
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Zen 4 is great right now

burnt bough
potent portal
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I'm most ways yes

crimson zinc
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7800x3d

burnt bough
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bec i have i5 9400f right now and it's bad

potent portal
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I can't recommend the 13900K or 14900K for high end buyers anymore either because of the power problems.

potent portal
burnt bough
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ryzen 5 zen 4 will be any different?

burnt bough
potent portal
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The 7600? It's still a great chip. Better than the 12600K for gaming. Usually.

burnt bough
potent portal
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If you're on a tight budget you can get a 7500F off AliExpress. It's just a 7600 with the iGPU removed.

potent portal
burnt bough
cyan ravine
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Well, for one 7800 doesn't exist

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💀

potent portal
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The 7800X3D has a massive L3 cache that games can store instructions in. It's a good 25% better at gaming over the 7600 iirc. More in some games.

crimson zinc
cyan ravine
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X3D exists

analog hearth
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ur mom exists (she's very nice)

cyan ravine
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Ur mom doesn't

analog hearth
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:0

cyan ravine
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(disappeared after mass bread incident)

analog hearth
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mass bread incident? sounds like an australian thing

burnt bough
cyan ravine
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Yeah, went to get bread, disappeared with thousands of others

crimson zinc
analog hearth
cyan ravine
analog hearth
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💀

potent portal
dusky hearth
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the US has a pretty good KDA ratio

dim reef
plucky timber
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we gaming

dim reef
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yurr

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rest of the parts are coming tmrw and friday

crimson zinc
dim reef
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😭😭

crimson zinc
mossy venture
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few min for othjer options

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prolly some amazon warehouse options too

crimson zinc
mossy venture
thorn mural
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what cooler for 5600x?

cyan ravine
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Se 214xt

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Thermalright anything under $20

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Ag400 (last choice)

thorn mural
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how back is stock tho

cyan ravine
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Just fine

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It's a bit noisy on wraith stealth

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But fine

thorn mural
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Oh alright

cyan ravine
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Not like intel stock noisy anyway

thorn mural
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Thanks

cyan ravine
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Np

thorn mural
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If i got something like this how would i control the color of the argb fans?

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Would it just plug into the 4 pin argb header on my motherboard

potent portal
thorn mural
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"Addressable Gen 2 RGB headers" for aura sync is just plain old ARGB then

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potent portal
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Yes

thorn mural
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Thank you

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Thinking of caving in on something like this soon, does it look okay?

cyan ravine
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Looks ok

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Change case from d30 to d31

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Or sama argb-q5

wary gale
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How you doing felix

thorn mural
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Are either of them considered "ovens"

cyan ravine
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Hi

cyan ravine
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And argb-q5 is a lian li 205m from the oem

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Both mesh cases

wary gale
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I saw a benchmark on Fortnite with the 7900 gre on highest settings 1080p it was getting 500 fps wild

thorn mural
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The sama is a very good case for flips

cyan ravine
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If you do argb-q5 you can swap the psu to something a little nicer

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Like a focus 750w if they're still on sale

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A650bn is fine but it's kind of on the limit there imo

wary gale
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Btw do yk if a acer predator ssd is good @cyan ravine

thorn mural
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I think im going with the jonsbo, I've stared at an HP 💩 box most of my life and want a change of scenery to something more minimal

wary gale
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Heard rlly good things

cyan ravine
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But not needed

thorn mural
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Theres a screen variant of the d31?

cyan ravine
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Xg7000 kingspec > predator rn

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Yes

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Full hdmi

thorn mural
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Hmm

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I can't think of anything I'd put on there

wary gale
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@cyan ravine yk that gigabyte board I had in my build

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I searched it up on Amazon and they had a better version on sale from 230 to 1.99

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199

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So I copped it

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And the one I had was 190 but worse

cyan ravine
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I don't remember the board I put

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I do way too many lists in a week, I can never keep track

cyan ravine
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Even just using it for a spare screen lol, I've done that before with my sensor panel

wary gale
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I got the b650 elite instead

cyan ravine
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There's a number of b650's

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Do you have the list lol

thorn mural
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5500 cpu okay for 1080p gaming?

cyan ravine
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is fine

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It's quite decent tbh if you can get it significantly cheaper than the 5600/x

thorn mural
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$80?

cyan ravine
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vs. $100 5600X? no

thorn mural
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I see

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What about like $270 3070 vs $300 6750xt

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the 6750xt has 12gb vram and 3070 only 8gb so i feel like maybe the extra $30 might be worth for the 6750xt

cyan ravine
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in 1080p sense?

thorn mural
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yeah

cyan ravine
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6750XT has better low resolution scaling than 3070

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VRAM won't do anything in this context for years, all games coming out exceeding 8gb get their asses reeled in and updates fix it for a vast majority

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Not worth being pedantic about it yet

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Not when almost the entire mid to low range is 8gb

dusky hearth
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Unless you're playing vr

cyan ravine
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I've never known it to do that but I trust your word

thorn mural
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I wont be playing VR

dusky hearth
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But amd has a history of being kinda weird for vr

cyan ravine
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VR I touch like once a year lol

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Oh just amd in general

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AMD is ok

thorn mural
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VR is cool when you don't have to pay for it

dusky hearth
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I've never had problems with amd and VR but other people have as well

cyan ravine
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Neither

dusky hearth
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(Driver issues)

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But yeah no VR then 8gb vram is plenty for 1080

cyan ravine
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I thought you were talking vram lol

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my brain

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They're too similar

thorn mural
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the $270 3070 is an asus dual and the $300 6750xt is an XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core

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if that helps

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I've heard good things about asus dual cooling but idk anything about xfx cards

cyan ravine
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If you're doing work like, blender optix, certain parts of maya, specifics with davinci resolve, premiere pro, solidworks

thorn mural
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No, cs major lol

cyan ravine
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Lots of workstation stuff, 3070 would be nicer

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but if just normal gaming, maybe some dabbling, 6750

dusky hearth
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My friend hates xfs lol they always got the crappy ones from them ☠️

cyan ravine
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XFX ❤️

dusky hearth
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319 should be fine though

thorn mural
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Im trying to paste a picture but my win lock wont turn off so nevermind

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6750xt it is, then

dusky hearth
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Is the 6750xt or the 6700xt the same price? The performance difference isn't that big

vague oracle
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NVidia #1, SMH

thorn mural
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same price

dusky hearth
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Ah

vague oracle
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Intel > AMD

thorn mural
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Bigger number better in this case?

vague oracle
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Nvidia > AMD

dusky hearth
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Then yeah 6750xt

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It's like 5% better or something I don't remember

thorn mural
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Silly alec

vague oracle
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Lmaooo

thorn mural
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I'm on a 560 rn soooo really looking for any improvement over here

vague oracle
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Imma pepeKek you @cyan ravine

thorn mural
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Im afraid to ask what that entails

dusky hearth
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I wonder

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Do you have any use for CUDA cores

thorn mural
cyan ravine
dusky hearth
vague oracle
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You know it

vague oracle
dusky hearth
#

It originally was coronavirus battle Royale

thorn mural
dusky hearth
#

Then I change it to mutated

thorn mural
dusky hearth
#

Then I changed it to (is over)

vague oracle
#

Tf happened to you?

thorn mural
#

Time flies huh

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Bruh I'm graduating high school now

vague oracle
#

Bro disappeared

dusky hearth
#

Youngling

vague oracle
#

Bruh I forgot you were a child

thorn mural
#

I joined in like 8th grade

vague oracle
#

I’m going into my third year of college 💀

cyan ravine
#

Young egg finally graduated to-

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....

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........

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Egg

dusky hearth
#

Felix

cyan ravine
#

ig

vague oracle
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Felix

dusky hearth
#

Oh

vague oracle
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Don’t make me egg you in a minute

cyan ravine
dusky hearth
#

I thought you were going to say some eggcelent pun

cyan ravine
#

I'm not that eggsquisite bro

dusky hearth
#

You've betrayed my eggspectations

cyan ravine
#

Try again neggs time

thorn mural
#

never gets old

vague oracle
cyan ravine
#

We've been here so long nothing is new

dusky hearth
#

Lmao

thorn mural
#

I spent too much time here in a short period of time that I had to refrain from talking here so I could resume my life

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I appreciate you guys being able to help out, I think I'll scrape the funds together within my next paycheck and pull the trigger on the build 👍🏻

dusky hearth
#

Oh yeah 2 other exceptions for Nvidia
Some Minecraft shaders
(The one I used) Only supports Nvidia due to AMD constantly changing their OpenGL or whatever it was in their drivers which keeps breaking it

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Latest stable driver on amd is from 2022

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For that shader

vague oracle
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Or AMD getting you banned in CS2 KEK

dusky hearth
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LMFAO

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Also a uhh

lone flame
vague oracle
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Just buy a 14900ks and a 4090 and be done with it

dusky hearth
#

3d reconstruction program that's open source uses CUDA cores so that also requires a ngreedia gpu

cyan ravine
#

Not all

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Some are better on AMD

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You also have ZLUDA translation layer so the gap becomes a lot smaller

dusky hearth
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i meant a specific one that is open source that uses a bunch of photos to create a 3d mesh

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name was like meshroom or smth

cyan ravine
dusky hearth
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🧐

cyan ravine
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NERF

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Or nothing

wary gale
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@cyan ravine

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Instead of the b650 eagle ax I got the b650 elite aorus

cyan ravine
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Isn't the eagle 150

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Ah the sale changed, it's now 170

wary gale
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It’s a gigabyte

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Not a Msi

cyan ravine
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Difference between them should be minor, at a glance 2 less usb, but still 8

cyan ravine
#

Aorus is gigabyte's brand

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Eagle is also gigabyte

wary gale
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So which one better

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Bc aorus more pricy

cyan ravine
#

They'll all perform the same

wary gale
#

Dang it has 5 year warranty

cyan ravine
#

AM5 is overbuilt to the point the differences in board are practically non-existent except for extras

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The world record for AM5 OC is held by a $110 asrock barebones board with a 7950X

wary gale
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So should I just get the cheaper motherboard

cyan ravine
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If you really want the board, $200 isn't bad, but I would consider that $50 extra for something else performance-wise

wary gale
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Better ssd?

obsidian wigeon
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No

wary gale
#

I mean that is a good upgrade

cyan ravine
#

$50 would get a bigger ssd yes

obsidian wigeon
#

Oh

wary gale
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Or I could save for that oled monitor

cyan ravine
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Not better but bigger

wary gale
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50$ would help

obsidian wigeon
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mb I was reading wrong

cyan ravine
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Or the OLED yeah

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For sure the OLED

wary gale
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Yea

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But for some reason

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On pc builder

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The total is 1520

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I put everything on amazon

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It’s 1581

cyan ravine
#

Yes because sticking to one seller you will always pay more

obsidian wigeon
#

You're shopping in one place

cyan ravine
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Every time

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Shop from many places not just one

obsidian wigeon
#

PCPP mixes it all for the best deals

wary gale
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Oh nvm

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Pc part builder

obsidian wigeon
#

ye

wary gale
#

Should I shop in 1 place or multiple

cyan ravine
#

always wherever it's cheapest overall

wary gale
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Alr

cyan ravine
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Add it all up, taking shipping and tax into account

wary gale
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Also I’m getting that mg7000 u said

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Speeds are rlly good

cyan ravine
#

alr

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$10 for that extra speed is fine

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It's still $125?

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this one

wary gale
#

It’s cheaper on Amazon

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It’s 5% off

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So it’s more like 116

cyan ravine
#

Speeds are just marketing

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This is just a good ssd

wary gale
#

Oh Alr

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Aios are so expensive on new egg

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Wth

cyan ravine
#

Wherever it's cheapest

wary gale
#

They are double the price on Amazon

cyan ravine
#

Thermalright is usually best on Amazon iirc

wary gale
#

Thermaltake notte is 100$ on new egg lmao

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If I were to order all on Amazon

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It would be 1680

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Including taxes and shipping

cyan ravine
#

As long as you find the cheapest way to order all the same things, it's worth it

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The store itself doesn't matter really

wary gale
#

Pc builder with taxes would only cost 1649

cyan ravine
#

Pcpp doesn't always include shipping

wary gale
#

Well they don’t charge shipping

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Since I got over a certain amount

jagged ember
#

TLDR: Buy from wherever it's cheapest

mossy venture
analog hearth
#

yeah

pseudo pollen
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as long as you get to test it :)

potent portal
#

Yes definitely bring your $3k PC to that meetup so you can test a GPU. That's a great idea.

pseudo pollen
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just bring a mini pc with 15 adapters to test it

thorn mural
#

Just curious how bad are these boards

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Im assuming they are cheap because they have poor performance and underwhelming feature sets

pseudo pollen
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I mean, they'll work

cyan ravine
#

I'd recommend only one of those and it's the prime II

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It runs a 5600

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Nothing more

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Specifically that board has a bios flash button

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Also, iirc $5 more gets a TUF a520m II

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Which runs a 5950x

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One of the best low cost boards rn for am4

weary galleon
thorn mural
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Mm ok

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Thank you

dim reef
#

how long on average does it take yall to build a pc

crimson zinc
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Physically? Or a list for one?

cyan ravine
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If it's just something normal

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2 hours max

mossy venture
#

Typically for someone's first build 3 hours with everything going right is a fair assumption

leaden mauve
mossy venture
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My first build wasn't running for like 5 days bc I'm an idiot

dim reef
dim reef
crimson zinc
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So

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Depends on the parts tbh

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My advice: get a modular PSU
Save the headache

cyan ravine
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No wifi but unbeatable

thorn mural
#

dorm doesnt have ethernet so i gotta get a board with wifi

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asus stole my m.2 wifi card when i sent my lappy in for rma and my only other wifi cards are e key

dim reef
dusky hearth
glad lodge
cyan ravine
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That's not too bad

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There are cheaper alternatives, but what's there is good

#

Remind him to set up the cpu to run the intel stock profile (255W Power Limit, 200A ICCmax) to avoid the 14700K degrading

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So about 100-ish

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The 850W works, You shouldn't need 1000W, but the 1000W picked was a good choice iirc according to arisreviews

glad lodge
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I have had some bad experiences with msi mobos, not gonna do that

cyan ravine
#

Both lists are fine, $100 for aesthetics is good

cyan ravine
glad lodge
glad lodge
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but yeah ty for the sanity check

cyan ravine
#

Moreso me asking cos Asrock boards are terrible for mem compatibility bar the Aqua and...

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I...can't remember the name of the other

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Nova I think?

#

On LGA1700 Asrock has had real troubles with DDR5

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Conversely they're the best for AM5

#

If it's just XMP it's fine, but they can get funky with mem oc

glad lodge
#

yeah I figured I'd tell him to do xmp since it's a factory recommended overclock, if that makes sense, so I hope it will run 6000. not like some of the crazy speeds

cyan ravine
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I've seen Asrock Z790's not even hit 5600 ngl

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Probably unlikely to occur now? I'm often recommending Asrock

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But worth remembering if he runs into XMP troubles

glad lodge
#

yeah it's like $100 cheaper than the next brands, but I'll keep it in mind

cyan ravine
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The ram case and fans though are all solid if he likes it

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Never heard issues with SP, the XMP and kit underneath is the same

glad lodge
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for an overclocking build what mobo brand do you think does the auto optimization best? ik it used to be asus but it seems they've gotten worse. thinking for myself in the future

mossy venture
#

You'd see more of a difference watching a YouTube video on ddr5 ram tuning

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And spending some time messing with timings, and depending on cpu seeing how high of a speed it'd handle

potent portal
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https://youtu.be/dlYxmRcdLVw?si=C3CClYoVdyFet4xA
Any Hynix based memory kit should be able to do this unless you're very unlucky.

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It should still work on Intel afaik

mossy venture
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Oh I misread that

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I thought it said 7000mhz lmao

glad lodge
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ok ty

regal blade
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I need help

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Is it better to get a 360mm aio for 120$ or a peerless assassin for 59$ and 3x120mm fans

mossy venture
#

or phantom spirit

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phantom spirit is technichally a lil better but wont make much of a diff

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2-3c at most

regal blade
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I’m using a ryzen 7 7700

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@mossy venture what do you think I should do in my situation

mossy venture
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peerless assassin, 3 pack of thermalright c12c fans if case has less than 3 fans

regal blade
#

It has 4 pre installed fans

potent portal
#

Every AM5 CPU is perfectly happy with the PA or the other great dual towers

regal blade
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3 intake 3 exhaust

potent portal
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Even the 7950X is happy on it. It'll hit the thermal limit but you won't lose performance, that's just how it's designed.

regal blade
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What do you think

#

@potent portal @mossy venture can you check my build if it’s good

#

?

potent portal
#

That paste is actually pretty bad

regal blade
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Rlly

#

What paste would you recommend

mossy venture
#

cooler will come with paste

regal blade
#

Is it good paste

potent portal
#

Good enough

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It'll get you within about 4 degrees of the best stuff

regal blade
#

What would be considered good stuff

potent portal
regal blade
#

Mx5?

potent portal
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MX5 is discontinued

#

MX6

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MX4 is still pretty decent

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TG Kryonaut

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KPX

regal blade
#

What would be the best one paste in your opinion

dusky hearth
#

best for what

regal blade
#

Tg kryo is 8$ for 1g

regal blade
leaden mauve
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KPX KPX KPX KPX

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Don't buy it though

#

Get mx4

dusky hearth
#

mx4/mx6 is best for longtivity, kpx only lasts like a year or so before degrading or smth like that

regal blade
#

So mx4?

dusky hearth
#

mx4 is good enough for most uses

potent portal
#

MX4 is best price/performance

#

Anything more isn't worth it

#

Maybe 2 degrees better. No difference in practice.

#

Until you get to liquid metal but that's a whole other story

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(you don't want liquid metal)

dusky hearth
#

me when 45 grams of mx4

potent portal
#

I got a 20g tube

leaden mauve
#

We luv LM

potent portal
#

I should probably get some K5 pro and repaste my GPU soon

leaden mauve
#

I haven't done PC maintenance in ages

#

Ping me in 2 and a half hours to remind me to post a picture of my dusty PC filters

#

Its terrible

potent portal
#

My VRAM temps have always been bad but now I'm tagging 100C just gaming

dusky hearth
#

wild price history for mx4 (45g)

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potent portal
#

Less than $1 per g is crazy good value, but it does expire eventually

dusky hearth
#

how long can you store it for anyways

#

i mean, theoretically for at minimum a few years

#

also this is in canadian dollars so it's even cheaper when compared to USD

cyan ravine
#

MX-6 stonk

potent portal
#

It has an expiration printed on it

regal blade
#

So so I stay with cooler thermal paste or get thermal paste

potent portal
#

The paste it comes with is fine

dim reef
#

lil dumb question but how do i take off the back panel of the xt pro ultra case

#

like i unscrewed the sides but its not budging

potent portal
#

Looks like it just slides to the rear like a normal case

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Pull the handle

#

If the manufacturing tolerances are off it might get a little tight

dim reef
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oh my goodness i js didnt pull hard enough thank u

potent portal
#

It can be a little scary pulling or pushing hard on it at first

#

It's more sturdy than you think

dim reef
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ok so i got it to turn on

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only thing that didnt is the exhaust fan and all of the fans that came with the case are a-rgb

torn portal
#

Can anyone recommend an intel CPU and NVIDIA 4000 series graphics card to pair together? Trying to prevent bottlenecking but not break the bank.

obsidian wigeon
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I don't typically recc nvidia gpus

#

Because they're usually meh in value

#

But there's cases where Nvidia is worth the money

obsidian wigeon
#

Intel is also kinda iffy atm with instability issues if you plan to run multi core workloads

torn portal
# obsidian wigeon What do you do with your pc?

General gaming and everyday use. My PC is showing it's age and it's time to upgrade.

I've gone off of NVIDIA/Intel because I'm just tech-literate enough to have a frame of reference for what's current and what's older.

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I built my PC close to ten years ago and it's showing its age. I'm open to going the AMD route as it's a little cheaper, but I've seen that the performance for AMD/ryzen products typically fall just short of beating intel/nvidia components

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But if you have a build recommendation for something that's pretty current and around the $1300 range I'll consider it

obsidian wigeon
torn portal
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No

obsidian wigeon
#

Are you looking for a certain look?

torn portal
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No

obsidian wigeon
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Like white themed

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Thanks

#

I'll whip up a list

torn portal
#

Thanks! Feel free to go above or below that price point as needed.

obsidian wigeon
#

I'll try to stay as close as I can

torn portal
#

Would you happen to know if m.2 drives install/function the same way on an AMD mobo vs. intel?

obsidian wigeon
#

They install and function the same, yes

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And for ~1250 bucks, you get 1440p capable pc

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1254 to be specific lol

torn portal
#

Lol. How long would this particular build future-proof me in terms of hardware? Think I could get several out of it?

obsidian wigeon
#

Easily

#

I'd maybe get a nicer cpu

#

But that's optional rn

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Like here's this for 1410

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And you get the fastest cpu for gaming

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I can minmax this more

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Like a cheaper but less feature packed board

torn portal
#

Nah this is pretty good. Thanks so much!

I do see a couple of compatibility notes—though I know pcpartpicker isn't always 100% accurate. Any issues to worry about there?

obsidian wigeon
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Nope

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Everything will work

#

If you do run into issues, you can come back here

#

It's either faulty parts or some other stuff, but that chance is low anyway

torn portal
#

Right. I appreciate the help and punctual response. Thanks so much!

obsidian wigeon
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You're welcome

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Have fun with your new pc once it's put together

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Also AM5 cpus use LGA sockets

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So they're just like Intel now lol

torn portal
#

Oh that's nice

obsidian wigeon
#

Difference is mounting but that's normal

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You can use AM4 brackets

torn portal
#

Gotcha

torn portal
crimson zinc
#

Yes

obsidian wigeon
#

Yep, the cooler comes with it

torn portal
#

Ty

iron dove
#

Friend told me to come here with questions- I'm looking to spend 1500-1750 USD on a build using the fractal north case. Bluetooth and Wifi are needed. Mainly gaming but also possibly using it for CAD design software like AutoCAD/Solidworks. Any advice would be welcome

lone flame
#

I’m the friend 🫡

potent portal
iron dove
#

Black

potent portal
#

Alright I'll put together a list of things I recommend. I know solidworks likes CPU and RAM.

iron dove
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Thanks doc

limber oyster
#

How loud are be quiet wing 4 120mm vs p12 max?

potent portal
# iron dove Thanks doc

AMD option https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CbWZTY
Intel option https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Y4DgB
They'll perform pretty similarly in most things. The AMD chip will have an advantage in some games but might need some minor tweaks to work well.

Part List - AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER, Fractal De...

Part List - AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER, Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower

Part List - Intel Core i7-13700K, GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER, Fractal D...

Part List - Intel Core i7-13700K, GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER, Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower

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Professional programs tend to prefer Nvidia GPUs still, to the point where the 7900 XTX performs like the 3060 in some tasks.

#

You could possibly get a refurbished or used 4070 ti super for a nice upgrade there.

iron dove
potent portal
#

Nah there's some people here that do it as well or better than me. You might get a couple of them chiming in soon.

lone flame
#

I’d put a ironic gif but I’m on my phone

limber oyster
#

I thought the Ryzen 7 7800x3d (or whatever it's called) performed better in games than the Ryzen 9?

lone flame
potent portal
#

It does, but if you're looking at professional tasks the 7900X3D has 50% more cores so it finishes sims in much less time.

#

The 7800X3D is the gaming king

limber oyster
#

That's fair

#

If you're doing more tasks than gaming might as well go Ryzen 9

potent portal
#

13700K is a "fewer compromises" option here I think, unless you want the ability to upgrade the CPU later.

cyan ravine
#

Intel

#

Where intel for solidworking

#

Oh it's there I'm blind

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

Intel better but you need to set up the motherboard to use default power limits

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255W PL 200A ICCmax

iron dove
#

After some deliberation if I wanted more in the realm of gaming with some side productivity how should I modify it?

cyan ravine
#

Like barely at all

potent portal
#

A little less CPU more GPU

cyan ravine
#

Cad systems and gaming systems go almost hand in hand

lone flame
#

If he did just gaming he could prob do like a 7900 XT

potent portal
#

If CAD is on the table at all I'd hate to recommend an AMD GPU

cyan ravine
#

That second intel list is actually good

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I'd maybe consider 64gb that's it

potent portal
#

There's room in the budget for more RAM

cyan ravine
#

Reason why is more gb more better for simulations

potent portal
#

I figured it wasn't going to be huge sims but yeah there's room for it

cyan ravine
#

Cooler is only slightly better, but an option

potent portal
#

Yeah I was looking at that memory too, decent latency

cyan ravine
#

Actually wait

#

It fits

#

@iron dove

#

And remember this particular two settings

#

Power limit

#

255W

potent portal
#

14700K is getting into danger territory. Make absolutely sure you update BIOS or it might crash at stock settings or die over time.

cyan ravine
#

ICCmax

#

200A

#

Yes

lone flame
#

Wasn’t intel crashing in some games

cyan ravine
#

It's dangerous left unchecked

#

Yes

lone flame
#

Why not just go like 78/7900X3D

cyan ravine
#

You fix the risk of degradation by adding power and current limit

potent portal
cyan ravine
lone flame
potent portal
#

No? It's significant but not that much

cyan ravine
#

Remember this is a CAD system primarily

#

If this is too concerning, go Ryzen instead, but all 13th and 14th gen K chips can be affected by degradation at stock settings bar 13600k

#

Intel has a finger in their bum about what the right thing to do is here

#

Overclockers had it figured out months ago

iron dove
# cyan ravine Remember this is a CAD system primarily

It's more of a side hustle for CAD for me. I'm a MechE so it's not necessary to be running sims or anything crazy all the time, I really want it to be game oriented first with a little CAD capability for when I need to do some things from home

cyan ravine
#

Right my speed then lol

#

You could do radeon if you wanted to

#

But nvidia will be better long term

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

If you can spend 1700 on MechE make it a PC that can be adaptable for your MechE imo

#

It's still a great gaming pc

potent portal
#

4070 super is quite a good GPU for gaming, even at 1440p

cyan ravine
#

Luckily in your niche, you sit sort of on the precipice of that 4070 Ti region of performance, where you can spend hundreds more and gain 5%

iron dove
#

1440 is the goal for me

lone flame
cyan ravine
#

4070 Super is about as good as it gets until you hit 890 4080 refurbished

limber oyster
#

I spent $425 on my 6800xt refurb

potent portal
#

4070 ti super refurb might be in the cards

limber oyster
#

😎

cyan ravine
#

Otherwise you'd go 750-ish 7900xt, but it's not as adaptable to MechE

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If you see yourself doing a lot of solidworks, nvidia will be a bit better

lone flame
#

Would GRE be in the conversation at all

cyan ravine
#

CAD on the other hand, is AMD bias

mossy venture
#

4070 ti refurb is 585 rn actually

cyan ravine
mossy venture
#

I forgot about that

cyan ravine
cyan ravine
mossy venture
cyan ravine
#

This is pretty minmaxed now

mossy venture
#

Just a diff mobo/case option

cyan ravine
#

He specifically wants the case unfortunately

mossy venture
#

Even against a similar looking alternative?

cyan ravine
#

Mmm, ig see what he thinks?

potent portal
#

That and Wifi were the 2 restrictions

iron dove
#

I'm willing to do other cases it's just a style im after

cyan ravine
#

Neo air 2 is similar style

#

Wood front

mossy venture
#

Ye

cyan ravine
#

Have a look at it

mossy venture
#

Mobo is an interesting option aesthetically lol

cyan ravine
#

It's not actual wood, it's wood lookalike

mossy venture
#

2x32 6000mhz is doable, right?

cyan ravine
#

But people have told me it looks real enough

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Yes

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Oh on asrock? Idk

mossy venture
potent portal