building-and-recc-chat

[potent portal]

You can't even compare 2 coolers of the same brand

[wild peak]

So just buy whichever looks nicer?

That’s it?

[potent portal]

Yep

[wild peak]

Ok got it

Thank you!

I’m very close to being done with my first pc

[white wraith]

Hey guys I got a quick questions I got a pny 4070 ti 12 gb vram and I put it on fb market saying I'd pay for a better card. Some dude hit me up and said he would straight up trade me a asus rog 4070 ti super no charge. Should I be suspicious or I am the chump here , is there something I don't know that he knows and he's the one , winning in this trade?

[cyan ravine]

That sounds hella sus wtf

Ain't no way

[white wraith]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12gb-gddr6x-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-with-triple-fan-and-dlss-3-black/6528733.p?skuId=6528733

My gpu

His gpu

Is there like some secret defect in this gpu model

[cyan ravine]

What are the lengths of both

[white wraith]

Or something

[cyan ravine]

Look up the lengths of both cards

[potent portal]

There's no world that this makes sense to me. The Asus is a higher cost model and everything.

[cyan ravine]

That's the ONLY reason I could think of

It's stupid sus

[potent portal]

305mm Asus
332mm PNY

About the thickness difference of an average 120mm fan

[cyan ravine]

Ain't no way unless his case was the length of a dinner plate

[potent portal]

The PNY is longer I mistyped

[cyan ravine]

Pfft

Huge red flag

[potent portal]

But yeah that's still not a big card

[cyan ravine]

@white wraith would trust it about as far as I could throw it

[potent portal]

You'd probably get robbed or something if you showed up for that trade

[cyan ravine]

I wasn't thinking that deep

More like the strix is broken

But yeah very possible

[white wraith]

Mines 331.8 millimeters it's very big I don't know about his though

[potent portal]

Could be that too lol

[white wraith]

I'm thinking that too

[cyan ravine]

Don't bite that deal

Don't even try

[white wraith]

If it were to happen we will probably meet at a grocery store

I don't think he could do anything

[potent portal]

I like to do movie theaters personally. They have security that'll help you out if you get there early and let them know what's up.

[mossy venture]

ask him why

[cyan ravine]

Front of a cop shop

[white wraith]

It's kinda weird tho

Because he seems like a trusted seller

Not like an average scammer

[potent portal]

What's the date of last sale

[white wraith]

I don't want to sound like I'm coping but maybe his card isn't oc ? Or maybe he likes how the pny card looks with rgb? I'm probably just reaching it does seem too good to be true.

[cyan ravine]

There's nothing in this deal that benefits him

That's why it's sus

There is either something wrong with that card or you'll get mugged at a supermarket

[white wraith]

He said the card got a warranty from micro center I forgot to ask him to send it

Yeah ur probably right it wouldn't have been weird if he wanted 100-200 cash

[cyan ravine]

Even 50 cash

Straight trade is just

Lolwat

[white wraith]

I told him I was busy so I could post one the trade I'll probably just ghost him

[fleet pasture]

I’m trying to build a computer but I’m not sure if it’s good for what I want to do. Would you guys be able to help me out?

[subtle halo]

They gonna wake up soon xD

[fleet pasture]

Oki lol

[pseudo pollen]

Might be able to help, but for now just put:

Budget
Country
How soon are you getting it
What you are using it for
Aesthetic preferences (if any)

[crimson zinc]

I am here

[crimson zinc]

Do this @fleet pasture

Am a beginner helper, but I will help nonetheless

[fleet pasture]

Oki
$1650
USA
As soon as I can get the money. (I’m 15 so I dont have a good job)

Mainly gaming but I want to play VR, 3D model, make games, live stream, edit videos and cyber security.

I want a white pc I have some of the parts picked out I can show you guys.

Basic I want to do work on it and game a lot.

[obsidian wigeon]

Then ask later tbf

Prices change a lot during the few months

[fleet pasture]

I’m saving up for it and thsts a lot of money so I’m reality as soon as possible but I know it will take a few months.

[obsidian wigeon]

Buy now with actual budget, or work up to that budget

[crimson zinc]

How about we do a starter build for much cheaper, then do an updated build when you have that money?

If you’re able to spend money now, then upgrade in the future.

[fleet pasture]

I feel like that would be a waste of money. I have a laptop that I can use anyways until I get the money and I plan on buying the parts little by little.

[crimson zinc]

Okay. Then I also second foxy.
Waiting would be your best option, as parts can drop or raise in pricing weekly.

It’s an unstable market

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X7gbgB

[fleet pasture]

Alright can I at least tell you if the parts I wanted are good for what I want to do?

The cpu will be Ryzen 9 7900x3d since it’s on sale for $392 then for the gpu The 7900 xt

[crimson zinc]

@fleet pasture this list would be the list to off of

[crimson zinc]

Are you gaming on it?

[fleet pasture]

Ok

[fleet pasture]

Yes

[crimson zinc]

Then you don’t want the 7900x3d

[fleet pasture]

^

[fleet pasture]

Why?

[crimson zinc]

You’d want the 7800x3d.

The 7800x3d is the best cpu for gaming right now.

Beating literally any other cpu thrown at it.

[fleet pasture]

But I am going to be doing other things too.

[fleet pasture]

Also right now the 7900x3d is on sale and it’s $50 more so it sounds like a better deal.

[crimson zinc]

I’ll let @mossy venture explain

[fleet pasture]

Oki

[mossy venture]

Basically

7900x3d has two 6 core ccds

Don't ask me what a ccd is idk

7800x3d has one 8 core ccd

One of the 7900x3ds ccds has the x3d cache, the other one doesn't

[fleet pasture]

I don’t know what ccds is though.

[mossy venture]

A lot of the time in games, even with a lot of effort put in to avoid it with various things (ask @potent portal )games run off the non x3d ccd

[mossy venture]

It's just two halves of the cpu

Cores are split up between two halves of the cpu

Each half is a ccd

I don't know what a ccd actually is honestly, fal could probably explain that one.

[fleet pasture]

Is the 7800x3d is better but cheaper?

[mossy venture]

But anyways, 7800x3d only has x3d cores

[mossy venture]

No

[fleet pasture]

Woops typo

[mossy venture]

Yes

[fleet pasture]

That doesn’t make sense though.

[mossy venture]

7900x3d is almost always worse than the 7800x3d, and when it isn't the perform the same

7900x3d has more cores

Better for workstation stuff

[fleet pasture]

That’s what I need too.

[mossy venture]

Ah.

I did not get that part.

What workstation stuff?

[fleet pasture]

Look at all the stuff I want to do.

[mossy venture]

All those tasks aren't multi core dependant aside from maybe 3d modeling

[fleet pasture]

What about just doing multiple things at ones like playing a game, discord and YouTube at the same time.

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fcp3DZ

[mossy venture]

Nah

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MkM3DZ

[fleet pasture]

Can you give me examples of what 7900x3d would be better for and I can tell you if I am doing it?

[mossy venture]

Video editing, blender, virtual machines, music production possibly? Any imagine rendering that's cpu dependant as well

Definitely others too, those are the ones that come to mind

Wait

Not video editing

[fleet pasture]

I can’t look at this yet since my school blocked it.

[mossy venture]

For video editing you want single core perf and an Intel cpu with an igpu

[fleet pasture]

I think that I will be using blender and imagine rendering.

[mossy venture]

Blender is either gpu focused or cpu multi core focused, it can be either depending on what you're doing with Blender

You also need an nvidia gpu

Also, new cpus will be out by the time you're buying I'd imagine

[fleet pasture]

How come?

[mossy venture]

I'm guessing you won't be buying before the end of the year

Blender performance dies on AMD

Last I remember 7900xtx matched the 4070

Blender is one of the only reasons to go nvidia

Oh also UE5 likes nvidia and multi core perf

[fleet pasture]

Why would nvida be better?

[mossy venture]

.

[fleet pasture]

So like what do you mean like it just won’t work or I can do like good graphics on it?

[mossy venture]

Performance goes way down

Normally 7900xtx matches 4080 super, or is pretty similar in most tasks

[fleet pasture]

Would it be used able at least?

[mossy venture]

In blender, it's closer to a 4070

Use, sure

Example, 7900 gre is $530, 4070 super is $580

4070 super is better than the $900 7900xtx for blender

[fleet pasture]

It’s 1k and the 7900 xt is 530

[mossy venture]

Yes? blender runs on cuda

[fleet pasture]

I may just stick with the 7900xt just because the price is lower.

[mossy venture]

7900 gre you mean?

Then go 4070

Well

I'd highly advise 4070 super over 4070

But for blender either is better value than the 7900 gre or 7900xt

[fleet pasture]

No the 7900xt

[mossy venture]

7900xt is $700

[fleet pasture]

It’s on sale right now.

[mossy venture]

If you mean under $650 on amazon, that's more than likely a scam seller

[fleet pasture]

Let me look again I may have miss read it.

[fleet pasture]

Yea it’s the gre.

Is that one any good?

[mossy venture]

I love the 7900 gre, just not when you're using blender

It performs the same as the 4070 super in gaming

Maybe 1-3% better

Performs like a 3070 for blender if I'm remembering right

[fleet pasture]

I’m not sure if that’s good or not I’m new to all this.

[fleet pasture]

It says this is for 1080p medium graphics.

[lone flame]

Gaming at 1080p is cpu limited when you use that high end of gpu

Everything is gonna be pretty similar

[fleet pasture]

Let me see 1480p high graphics.

[fleet pasture]

Nice!

[lone flame]

That 1440p?

[fleet pasture]

Yes with ultra graphics.

[lone flame]

Figured, that will more accurately show where stuff is at

I’m running a 6950 XT on 1440p

[fleet pasture]

Yes I’m going to get a 7900 gre

[fleet pasture]

Nice!

[lone flame]

Look into a Nitro+ from Sapphire

[obsidian wigeon]

7900 gre is a decent 1440p gpu

[lone flame]

I think that has a higher power limit

[obsidian wigeon]

sapphire pulse is great as well

[lone flame]

“Decent” 💀

[obsidian wigeon]

currently the cheapest one

[fleet pasture]

What do you mean?

[lone flame]

The different models and brands of gpus

[obsidian wigeon]

decent is decent

[fleet pasture]

Oh ok.

[obsidian wigeon]

what am i supposed to say lol

great?

[fleet pasture]

Is 7900 xt decent or good?

[lone flame]

If I’m spending 550 it better be atleast good

[obsidian wigeon]

decent = good

just different word

[lone flame]

Would you call 6950xt decent then

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[fleet pasture]

.

[lone flame]

I’d call it good

[fleet pasture]

What about a 5090

[lone flame]

It is becoming more and more popular it seems as it has dropped price

[lone flame]

Not released yet

[fleet pasture]

I know

[lone flame]

Will probably be too expensive for most people

[fleet pasture]

Yea.

Be right back.

[mossy venture]

Yeah except he's using blender lol

[obsidian wigeon]

right

[potent portal]

He seems set on using AMD because it's cheaper and is willing to sacrifice blender performance

I was just going over the convo myself since I was pinged lol

[fleet pasture]

That’s true.

[fleet pasture]

The set up total is 1498.

[fleet pasture]

Case
GPU
Mobo
RAM
CPU
Fans
CPU Cooler
PSU

[mossy venture]

I'd change case/fans

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KWgNZJ

Can also check out montech king 95, phanteks nv5, nzxt h6 flow, lian li o11 and its variants

Probably some others I'm forgetting

This is a nice case
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RtFmP6/phanteks-xt-view-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-xt523v1-dwt01

If you're not married to the glass front panel, xt pro ultra, g360a, 903 max, td500, 205 mesh c

[fleet pasture]

How come?

[mossy venture]

Just better quality

And fans are cheaper while being better

[mossy venture]

Case is whatever, the one you chose is fine, those are just other options that look very similar and cost less

Some of them you might like more

If you still like the one you found more then it's the right choice for you ig

[fleet pasture]

Would you be able to help me find one where the psu goes in the back and not the bottom?

[mossy venture]

Wdym?

Like one with a psu shroud at the base of the case to cover it?

Like the xt view, the psu isn't visible in that

[cyan ravine]

Like a dual chamber

@fleet pasture montech king95 is really good

Dual chamber isn't cheap tho

[fleet pasture]

I know

[mossy venture]

Ah

[fleet pasture]

Something like the nzxt flow

[cyan ravine]

Sky two is probably the most affordable version and it takes quips from like 3 different case designs

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NNWbZJ

[fleet pasture]

That look I like.

[cyan ravine]

I haven't recommended any nzxt since like 2022 lol

Oh their psus I have

They make good psus

[mossy venture]

There's not a single nzxt product that is both good and well priced

[fleet pasture]

I like the look

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CT59WZBG/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=ATE994DIXG1T6&psc=1

[mossy venture]

The only times I've recommended something from them is psu or monitor sales

I think once h5 flow on sale

[fleet pasture]

Is this good?

[cyan ravine]

Yeah one time the h5 flow was on sale but other than that

[cyan ravine]

It's a dual chamber case but I have no idea the quality of it

Bacca if you can do matx

Do mag pano msi

That case

I just remembered that is usually cheaper overall vs king95

It's also btf compatible

[fleet pasture]

Alright

[cyan ravine]

Mago pano iirc is decent

[fleet pasture]

It looks weird

[cyan ravine]

But as far as any cheaper options, I think NV5 exists but that's left the realm of dual chamber

[fleet pasture]

I like square with 2 windows

[cyan ravine]

That's all that I know about

King95 is the cheapest best

Maybe o11 air mini

Which is really one of the only 2 good o11's next to the evo

If not better than the evo imo

[fleet pasture]

Is 9 fans to much like would I be able to plug them all in?

[cyan ravine]

Depends on the fan

Also 9 is excessive on a dual chamber

6 is all you really need

3 top 3 bottom

Dual chamber design leverages a chimney style airflow pattern

Or I should say most do

Some weird ones like the h9 elite absolutely ruin the design with glass on top

[fleet pasture]

How? I love the looks!

[cyan ravine]

Would you believe glass in front of a vent stops air flowing

Lol

[crimson zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[cyan ravine]

The little side vent on top doesn't do much to fix it

[fleet pasture]

So it’s bad but it cost more

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Yes that's exactly what the elite cases are

[fleet pasture]

Oh

:c

[cyan ravine]

Have been for like half a decade

The flow cases are ok, just expensive

[fleet pasture]

Is this a bad design for fans?

[cyan ravine]

Nah it's just excessive

3 top 3 bottom is more than enough

[fleet pasture]

Alright

[cyan ravine]

Let me introduce you to something

[fleet pasture]

Oki

[cyan ravine]

Go look at jonsbo d41

Learn about a different but similar aesthetic

[fleet pasture]

Screen in case?

[cyan ravine]

Yes, but the interior is very similar less the psu

https://www.jonsbo.com/en/products/D41MESHSCREENWhite.html

The build quality is also the same as lian li

[fleet pasture]

I like it but I just prefer to have 2 glass panels

[cyan ravine]

Fair enough

I have to go but have a look at what bacca linked, he's very good with this stuff

[fleet pasture]

2 things I want 2 glass panels and the psu not on the bottom.

[fleet pasture]

Oki see you later

My setup

[limber oyster]

Most cases have PSU at the bottom

I prefer it as I dont trust having the PSU elevated

[dusky hearth]

bro are you sane

☠️

there is literally no difference whether your psu is up high, down low, hanging sideways, sitting on the table, or whatever

theres no air bubbles to get trapped in like an aio pump

[pseudo pollen]

you could have it taped to the wall for all it cares

[dusky hearth]

fr

hang it from the ceiling

[pseudo pollen]

attach it to a ceiling fan

[dusky hearth]

well

that does pose a problem

[pseudo pollen]

duct tape the connections

or super glue

[dusky hearth]

wires dont really like to spin

[pseudo pollen]

hmmm, if the psu spins as well as the fan, it could work

[cyan ravine]

why stay still when you can just spin with the psu

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-spinning-chair-nuclear-gif-10974154

[pseudo pollen]

attack the desk to the fan

at that point just keep the fan still and spin the room

[cyan ravine]

now you're thinking with portals

[grave mesa]

Hey I was thinking of getting a new case since my h510 is kind of a hot box 😂. I was thinking between these two cases.
https://www.amazon.com/SevenHero-270-Degree-Full-View-Tempered-Mid-Tower/dp/B0CNK9MSVL/ref=pd_bxgy_thbs_d_sccl_1/140-4482979-3091524?pd_rd_i=B0CNK9MSVL&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Lian-Li-Dynamic-Mini-White/dp/B09138FCV5/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1
Ik theyre very similar but I was seeing if anyone had any thoughts on the sevenhero as I already have 4 of their fans in my h510 build rn

[mossy venture]

Can also check out montech king 95, phanteks nv5, and sky two

Between those two, o11

[limber oyster]

I like the Asus tuf gt502

I've ran it in the past

Where the reservoir is you can add three more fans and one on the side too

At the time I got it, it was cheaper than it's twin, the O-11D XL

It still is

[burnt spruce]

Anyone know how to fix this ? I'm getting this error I think this is the cause of my screen keeps freezing

Anyone know how to switch to discrete TPMs from AMD Cpu based TPM?

[obsidian wigeon]

You have to get a tpm module for your board

Which is probably not available publicly anyway

fTPM is perfectly fine

[burnt spruce]

I kept getting the error

And sometimes my pc freezes

Im using MSI Board

[potent portal]

They are. It's about $25 each last I checked.
fTPM on AM4 was known to cause stutter, idk about AM5.

[obsidian wigeon]

Ah

[burnt spruce]

Oh coz recently I kept getting screen freezes

I’ve already tried everything with the help of @stoic island

But I still kept getting it even tho I upgraded to w11

[potent portal]

I just disable TPM once Windows is installed

I don't play that one game with the anti cheat that needs it on either

[burnt spruce]

Ya the game I play request for me to enable the TPM

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/scep-certificate-enrollment-initialization-for/d7c4cfda-9573-49a9-8479-d6e77406dafe?page=2

Based on what I saw here they disabled the admu cpu based tpm

And switch to discrete tpm

Would tpm still be enabled even tho if im using discrete tpm?

Also how to set discrete tpm?

[obsidian wigeon]

First you need to buy tpm module

[burnt spruce]

Im using am4

[obsidian wigeon]

You can't use discrete tpm without a module

[burnt spruce]

Msi b550m mortar wifi

[obsidian wigeon]

Which you can buy, according to falcie

[burnt spruce]

R5 5600g and 6750xt

[obsidian wigeon]

But you can disable firmware based tpm

[burnt spruce]

What is the name exactly of discrete tpm?

That I need to buy

[potent portal]

Just TPM module

It'll plug into a header on your motherboard

[burnt spruce]

Msi b550m mortar wifi dont have tpm module?

[potent portal]

Not built in, no

[burnt spruce]

Sorry not a techie ah

[frigid night]

Foxy But MOD

[obsidian wigeon]

yap

I redeemed myself

[frigid night]

Glad to see ya red again

[burnt spruce]

How it looks like in the bios

If I have the tpm module ?

[potent portal]

It'll let you select between them in the security settings

I'd show you if my MSI X570 didn't decide my CPU needed more voltage and killed it

Yep right there

[burnt spruce]

Where sorry not a techie much

[potent portal]

You're pointing at it

[obsidian wigeon]

You only have one option because you don't have a tpm module installed

[burnt spruce]

Right now I only have these 2 options. Is this it ?

[obsidian wigeon]

Yep

[potent portal]

Once you have the new module there will be a third

[burnt spruce]

Not sure if we have it in our country I'm from philippines

I searched it mostly its on amazon

[potent portal]

Should be easy to import, it's very small

[obsidian wigeon]

Or alternatively

Run tpm-less

Just disable it

[potent portal]

Can't

There's a game that requires it for anti cheat

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh right

Valorant

[potent portal]

That's the one

[burnt spruce]

Is it this one ?

[potent portal]

That should work

[burnt spruce]

I think everything that is riot games ?

[obsidian wigeon]

Maybe, idk

[burnt spruce]

Compatible with msi b550m also right ?

[obsidian wigeon]

But that tpm module should work

[potent portal]

It doesn't need to explicitly say it's for MSI for it to work

[burnt spruce]

So any brand would do?

[potent portal]

They're all basically the same chip on a slightly different package

[obsidian wigeon]

It just means the pins will fit for sure

[burnt spruce]

https://shopee.ph/TPM-2.0-Encryption-Security-Module-Support-Multi-brand-K5H7-i.188349826.12124542831

Not sure what should I buy here

It does have a list

Would this do ?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[potent portal]

It should. It's a very basic device.

Make sure there's enough room around your TPM header on the motherboard

It's here

[burnt spruce]

The blue one ?

Not sure if it will fit

Thank you for the help by the way

[fleet pasture]

Can you guys help me find a white themed motherboard for AM5 but like for a budget.

It’s beautiful but expensive. https://a.co/d/4nWu7W2

[analog hearth]

You won't find white motherboards (or white parts in general) cheap

[potent portal]

It's usually referred to as the "white tax" around here

An all white build will usually cost you about 15-20% more by the end of it

[obsidian wigeon]

you can substitute with asrock b650m pro rs

white/silver color accents

[mossy venture]

B650 steel legend was 180 Last I checked

Might be backorder tho

[fleet pasture]

Guys

What’s a good price for a 4080 super?

Or a good brand?

[fleet pasture]

😭

[fleet pasture]

Yea I hate that but white is just better.

[fleet pasture]

I’ll look into it thank you!

[mossy venture]

1k

Brand doesn't matter

[fleet pasture]

Good or bad? It’s 1.3k

[mossy venture]

Awful

It will perform the exact same as a bottom tier 4080 super, you're spending $300 for the brand name and aesthetics.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FnKnvj

[fleet pasture]

I know :c

I mean you have to admit it looks great!

[mossy venture]

Then spend your money how you want. Not coming out of my wallet lol

If you know then why ask

[fleet pasture]

I didn’t fully know

I started learning about computers like a week and a half ago.

[potent portal]

I will not admit that because my sense of style is different from yours. I prefer little or no RGB, blackout style.

[fleet pasture]

I get it I’m just saying that it looks nice to me

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZdqWRK

Lookin to start building this soon
Any way to maybe trim down the price? Only thing I’m dead set on is the 2080ti, and I need Bluetooth.

[obsidian wigeon]

y not a520m tuf for mobo?

overall better and has wifi

same $99 price tag

[crimson zinc]

Changed

Actually changed to a b550

Has wifi+bluetooth

[obsidian wigeon]

uh

wifi means it has bt too

it's the standard these days

all consumer wifi cards or chips come with bt module too

[crimson zinc]

Ah

Well, it doesn’t have armoury crate, so it’s better in my book

I also don’t know what aesthetically pleasing case to get

Maybe a white or blue

[wary gale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ w build?

If u have suggestions please let me know

My first time building a pc myself

I’m going for performance mostly but a little aesthetic would be nice

[stoic island]

Wrong link, copy the link inside the page, not the url

[wary gale]

Oops

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7xbcKX

There we go

@stoic island

Any suggestions

?

[obsidian wigeon]

all imma say is

no, this needs a lot of adjustments

and i have a question

what's your use case for the pc, budget, and do you want a certain theme (rgb, white, etc)

[wary gale]

Black rgb if not fine and no I don’t have a certain theme really

[wary gale]

Like what

[obsidian wigeon]

i can throw you a list rn

[wary gale]

Alright

[obsidian wigeon]

but basically, the cpu and more

[wary gale]

A friend told me to change the cpu to a i9 13700kf

Bc 12900k is mid

[obsidian wigeon]

if you're just gaming mostly

7800x3d is the best there is atm

[wary gale]

I record YouTube videos btw

Forgot to mention

[obsidian wigeon]

that's fine too, i can adjust to that

recording and editing mostly uses gpu

[wary gale]

I might use rtx instead of amd since amd is mostly gaming

And nothing else

Meaning rtx would be better

Just a little more pricy

[obsidian wigeon]

do you need wifi?

[wary gale]

Yes

Good WiFi

I’ve been stuck on a trash motherboard

With 120 mbs

Been a nightmare

120 mbs cap

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/thYbgB

Just saved ya $100 for a better rig

[wary gale]

I have a asrock motherboard right now and it has terrible internet

You sure this one won’t be the same

[obsidian wigeon]

I can assure ya that it doesn't have the same issues

Many people have been satisfied with the pro rs boards on am5

[wary gale]

My friend recommended this build

It’s a little more pricy

But lemme get your opinion

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dgCgWt

[obsidian wigeon]

Bleh

I can make it a 1.9k build, but you'd get an even better gpu

[wary gale]

Go for it

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hkzCh3

Actually not 1.9k

1.8k lol

[wary gale]

Ooo

[obsidian wigeon]

The xtx matches 4080 super in perf

[wary gale]

Xtx I heard competes with 4090 almost

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L7yQbL

And if you prefer

Here I matched budget

Equivalent gpu from nvidia

[wary gale]

Amd better save almost 100 bucks

Does the same thing most likely

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[wary gale]

What do u do with your old builds?

[obsidian wigeon]

The benefit with nvidia is nvenc, but you can record decently with amd as well

I dunno, I usually either sell or keep em

[wary gale]

I wanna sell mine but I’m having trouble getting offers

[obsidian wigeon]

I can help you figure out the value of it

[wary gale]

I’m lf 900 on a rtx 2060 i7 11900k 1 tb ssd 16 gb ram

[obsidian wigeon]

900 for that is tough tbh

[wary gale]

I’ll take lower for it tho

[obsidian wigeon]

i'd say it's worth 600 tops atm

[wary gale]

750 my lowest

[plucky timber]

gpu weighs down the value

[wary gale]

Dang

[obsidian wigeon]

given the rest of the rigs

[wary gale]

I paid way more

[obsidian wigeon]

the gpu is the cheapeast part of it

it brings the overall value down

[plucky timber]

it'd be worth a bit more if it had a 3070 or something

[wary gale]

I paid 1500 when we were in the Gpu crisis

Got scammed lowkey

[obsidian wigeon]

considering brand new, 600 usd could get you a build with r5 3600 and rx 6600

[wary gale]

It’s Alr tho it was my first pc

[wary gale]

Ima try and get 700 for it

[plucky timber]

First pc?

Damn

[wary gale]

Yea

[plucky timber]

My first build had a core 2 quad

[wary gale]

The build I’m doing right now https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hkzCh3 is my second build

[wary gale]

Started mid range

2060 is a good card but outdated now

[obsidian wigeon]

I've only had one pc, sold it off

I mainly run laptops

[wary gale]

Laptops are good but they overheat so much

[plucky timber]

Laptop issue

[wary gale]

I had a omen omg it would reach 100c😭

[obsidian wigeon]

That's a design issue

[wary gale]

Omen is trash

[obsidian wigeon]

Mine never gets to those temps

[wary gale]

That’s why

Gaming version of hp😭

[plucky timber]

My strix has really beefy heatpipes

It was only $1300 too

I think that's accounting for ram upgrade

[wary gale]

What’s the Gpu

[plucky timber]

3070

[wary gale]

Decent

It’s a laptop ofc so not as good but not that bad

[plucky timber]

That's relative

I rarely push the gpu these days

[obsidian wigeon]

My tuf a15 has 4050 for gpu

[plucky timber]

It is way overkill for what I use this laptop for

Half my time is spent in microsoft word

[obsidian wigeon]

Matches the hypothetical 4050 desktop that's probably coming soon I guess?

[plucky timber]

And besides it's a bit past the sweet spot in terms of value

[wary gale]

Ppl hate on it

[plucky timber]

3060 had better overall value

And it was a bit cheaper

But I didn't want to downgrade to 6GB vram so

3070 it was

[wary gale]

Ppl were saying on the 3050 it had the same performance as 1660 super😂

[plucky timber]

I mean if it's like $600

🤷‍♂️

[obsidian wigeon]

4050 would be 3060 desktop perf if it didn't have such a small bus width for vram

so overall im satisfied, enough

[plucky timber]

How much was it tho

Is the real question

[obsidian wigeon]

considering i upgraded from 850m lol

i got it for 1.2k, but didn't pay whole actually

still leasing it lol

[plucky timber]

East asian market

understandable

Not east asian

[wary gale]

When I first started with pcs I bought a 300 dollar laptop thinking it was gonna be good😂

[plucky timber]

South east asian

[obsidian wigeon]

launch price plus limited choice

[wary gale]

It had a terrible gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

rn the same laptop can be picked up for 800-900

[plucky timber]

In your market?

That's pretty decent actually

I'd imagine that used 3060s would be a bit more

[obsidian wigeon]

those are about 700 used

3070 ones around 800

[plucky timber]

That's pretty reasonable

3070s are more

If you need the vram

[obsidian wigeon]

if money wasn't an issue i'd have picked up 3070 tbf

better perf

more vram

[plucky timber]

3070's great

[obsidian wigeon]

can't finance used stuff can i

lol

[plucky timber]

Depends on the games you play I guess

I don't even play that many gpu intensive games these days

[obsidian wigeon]

no 3070 is just better in every way

unless you want frame gen i guess

[plucky timber]

Oh really?

[obsidian wigeon]

which is horrible anyway

[plucky timber]

I thought the performance between the 3060 and 3070 was quite close?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

it's a sizable gap

[plucky timber]

huh

Must have remembered wrong

Is there a ti?

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

and it makes zero sense on laptops

lol

[plucky timber]

I could've sworn it was a lot closer

At least in 2022

[spice dragon]

can i use this controller with this fans?

[wary gale]

Foxy wait why did u pick 240mm aio and not 360b

360mm again?

@obsidian wigeon

[obsidian wigeon]

Pretty redundant for the cpu

It can be cooled just fine on a single tower air cooler

An aio is basically just for looks for it lol

[wary gale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kfCgWt replaced some stuff better for my budget

[obsidian wigeon]

you could do better with one of my lists, but in the end it's your money

my advice is to assist you

[wary gale]

I’m running 1080p

So 4080 is pretty overkill

[jagged ember]

I'd trust foxy's list more tbh

[obsidian wigeon]

You can then invest in a better monitor later, y'know

[crimson zinc]

Can a 1660s handle dual monitor?

[mossy venture]

I would highly suggest a monitor upgrade even if you were spending $1000 on a pc

1080p is underkill for any pc even close to this budget

Also 4070 ti super is among worst value gpus this gen

Barely better than 4070 super for $220 more

[frigid night]

Yes.

[frigid night]

What are the good value GPUs ATM? I'm out of the loop with supers and ties this gen.

[analog hearth]

AMD GPUs are pretty much all good (just don't go with an RX x600 or lower)

[potent portal]

If you must get high end Nvidia then the 4080 super is decent, and MSRP is lower than the regular 4080.

I do agree that AMD is a better option in almost every tier

[weak flint]

5700 and 5800 still pack a punch

just bad cooling

[lone flame]

5800?

[obsidian wigeon]

there's no 5800

[mossy venture]

4080 super, 4070 super, 7600, 7800xt, 7900 gre, 7900xt, 7900xtx

Other gpus non current gen are 6750xt, 6800, and whatever refurb or used options pop up

But those gpus are the ones I'd consider new

Ti super only if you can't afford 4080 super, need nvidia, and are doing workstation tasks that benefit from more vram

[obsidian wigeon]

I just don't like people justifying their current monitor for overspending on their pc

Or downgrading parts for something else

Like mobo, etc

[analog hearth]

I like my 4070 Super

[crimson zinc]

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-001S-000F5?Item=9SIBNFDJXA0388&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIBNFDJXA0388-_-05112024

How’s this case

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/N8NxFT,9r6NnQ/

How much louder is the be quiet vs the p12?

[leaden mauve]

Headphones can make any fan quiet

[fleet pasture]

What do you mean by wifi?

[obsidian wigeon]

I was talking to the roomba pfp dude

Ignore that

[reef moss]

Anyone got tips on how I can upgrade this with 400 bucks? or if it even really needs upgraded? I just want to be able to run any games without issues

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HTF4vj

[mossy venture]

Do you own all of it?

[reef moss]

Yep!

Its built currently

[mossy venture]

With $400 not really aside from adding some storage

[reef moss]

damn

what would I need my budget to be for upgrading?

[obsidian wigeon]

You don't need to upgrade at all

If you're happy with it

Because that's a good rig

[reef moss]

oh thank you

[potent portal]

I'd wait until next gen GPUs are out and see what you can afford then

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[reef moss]

aigfht

Thank you

[mossy venture]

Yeah agreed, the cheapest I would upgrade is maybe $530 for a 7900 gre, and that's only around a 20% perf jump

Imo nowhere near worth it

[crimson zinc]

Go into debt and buy a 4090

https://tenor.com/view/shadowrun-hoi-chummer-savingthrowshow-savingthrow-rpg-gif-12484267

[mossy venture]

Real

[wild peak]

My motherboard has 2 separate usb headers, but my case came with a cable that combines them what do I do

Wait the motherboard itself has ports I’ll just use those

[limber oyster]

Razer barracuda x, Corsair hs55, or Logitech g435 headset?

[crimson relic]

Yo guys I am looking to upgrade to 32gb of ram, but the only thing i really know anything about is the Latency (CL and the speed). What do you guys think abt these sticks: https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-PC4-28800-3600MHz-Ripjaws-16-19-19-39/dp/B07Z45XB3G/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=2MS75WZ0D1U5Y&keywords=ddr4%2Bripjaws%2B3600%2Bcl16%2B32&qid=1686332464&sprefix=ddr4%2Bripjaws%2B3600%2Bcl16%2B32%2Caps%2C204&sr=8-3&th=1

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt buy them

That's what a good kit of ddr5 costs

What cpu do you have?

This is the most I'd spend on ddr4 at this point
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PJ6qqs/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-z-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tlzgd432g3600hc18jdc01

[fleet pasture]

Why is ddr5 better then ddr4?

[dusky hearth]

This is normal

[dusky hearth]

Quick answer: faster

[fleet pasture]

Oh makes sense but in what ways?

[dusky hearth]

Clock speed lmao

Also the standard allows for larger capacity dimms than ddr4 iirc

And has some form of error correction

[fleet pasture]

Oh ok and I wouldn’t be able to use the Ryzen 9 cpu with it right?

[dusky hearth]

Er

Yes and no

Ryzen 9 isn't a sku

7000 series ryzen is ddr5 only

And prior generations were ddr4

[fleet pasture]

Alrighty I’m getting a 7900x3d so that’s why I was asking so thanks!

[dusky hearth]

Oh yeah you can only use ddr5 with that

[fleet pasture]

Yea want to see the stuff I’m getting later?

[dusky hearth]

No need

[fleet pasture]

Oki

[wild peak]

So I just have to use the usb ports that are on the motherboard?

[dusky hearth]

No, just plug in the usb3 internal connector and you can also use both usb on the case

Doesn't matter which one on the mobo

[wild peak]

It doesn’t fit did you look at the picture

[dusky hearth]

Are you trying to plug it into the right port

The poet should look similar to this

The image you sent was 2 usb 2.0 ports

[fleet pasture]

What does WiFi connector do for the Motherboard Does it make the connection better?

[elfin flame]

What

Just means you can use the PC with WiFi if you don't have wired connection available

[fleet pasture]

So what happens if I don’t have it?

[elfin flame]

You either run an Ethernet cable to your PC for network, buy a WiFi adapter, or you don't get Internet connection at all

Pick your poison

[fleet pasture]

Oh can I do Ethernet with a wifi adapter though?

[elfin flame]

I'm a little confused by your question. That board you posted an image of has both Ethernet port and WiFi option, you would not need an adapter?

[fleet pasture]

Oh ok

[elfin flame]

Almost all boards available have at least 1 Ethernet port

[fleet pasture]

Alright

[strong raft]

btw, wifi = wireless. The 2 pointy parts circled inthe pic, called antenna. 👍

[elfin flame]

@strong raft you're still alive eh?

How's that 12400 treating you

Still

[fleet pasture]

So if I wanna connect to my house Wi-Fi, do I need an antenna?

[strong raft]

If you want more than 5% signal, yes, you need to screw them on

[cyan ravine]

Tried it before without, you can lose wifi connection even if your router is next to the motherboard

[dusky hearth]

Even a paper clip would do better than no antenna

[potent portal]

Have done this
Can confirm

[vague idol]

can someone please help me my motherboard has a orange led on it I've tried everything updating bios checking the power supply and everything I can find online please help

[analog hearth]

nah

[potent portal]

What LED specifically is orange? Can you get a close up picture of it?

[weary galleon]

Tinfoil also works I believe

[vague idol]

@potent portal

what should I do from here on?

I've updated bios

check all connections

[strong raft]

1 thing to try is each ram stick by itself. When pc is shutdown, clear cmos.

[vague idol]

how do I clear the cmos

[potent portal]

?cmos

[jolly river]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[fleet pasture]

No way 💀

[potent portal]

If it's able to boot into Windows then I'd say it's just a bug and you can ignore it

[cyan ravine]

Antennas are literally plastic covered wires

[dusky hearth]

Anything is better than no antenna honestly

[potent portal]

All an antenna has inside is a thin metal wire that's looped around a couple times

[cyan ravine]

If you think about it you could bend and cut an antenna to be a paperclip

[fleet pasture]

I mean yea I guess so

[elfin flame]

I will turn you into a paperclip

[analog hearth]

@mossy citrus Where'd you get the parts for that? I need that layout right now omg

[mossy citrus]

Qwertykeys

[analog hearth]

bro thanks

[analog hearth]

okay

[burnt spruce]

anyone happen to know how to fix this ?

I keep getting this error in events viewer

[analog hearth]

why bother?

[burnt spruce]

I keep getting screen freezes not sure if this was the problem

or maybe this

[analog hearth]

you mean in game?

[burnt spruce]

No

even when just browsing

[wary gale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NDftTY w build?

[obsidian wigeon]

I hate to be a broken record but for 1.6k you can do a lot better, "overkill" parts or not

[wary gale]

Fans added a lot

It was 1450 before the fans

[obsidian wigeon]

I get that

Noctua is unnecessary thou

[wary gale]

Heard good things about it

[obsidian wigeon]

They're nice but so expensive

Thermalright fans aren't too much inferior but do cost a fraction

[wary gale]

I’ll check em out

Thanks for letting me know

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KvhxMV also I updated the case and you

Gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

imo i'd just not buy extra fans

and swap aio for thermalright frozen edge

All the cash you'll save can be put on a 1440p monitor

[wild peak]

I just built my computer, and after installing synapse it restarted, now I can’t get into windows, it keeps blue screening with the error “inaccessible boot device” I tried reinstalling windows from another USB but for some reason it won’t work

[obsidian wigeon]

Windows corrupted itself due to synapse maybe

[wild peak]

How do I fix it?

[obsidian wigeon]

Gotta reinstall windows

[weak flint]

my case has 2x usb 2 ports

but only one of em work

why is that

[wild peak]

I did, it refuses to install

[obsidian wigeon]

Hm

[weak flint]

it refuses to install

bruh

[obsidian wigeon]

Try formatting the drive somehow

Some boards have secure erase function

[wild peak]

Wdym formatting the drive

[weak flint]

just load the iso on a flash drive

and allocate memory to your windows setup

and should work

memory as in drive space

[wild peak]

I don’t understand

If you’re saying to put the installation media on the drive

And then boot from there, I tried that and it didn’t work

From a clean USB drive

I can get on a call and show you in a bit

[dim reef]

best laptop from $200-300 USD? gonna be used for primarily work for a family member

also im getting the parts for my own pc build pretty soon

[weak flint]

something second hand i guess

[weak flint]

why?

[frigid night]

Can you explain what it is or isn't doing to give us more information than "it didn't work"?

When you try and boot from the USB, does it just load into bios? Do you get any sort of screen?

Does it still just try to load into your corrupt windows?

[mossy citrus]

@fleet pasture $350 total

[fleet pasture]

Huh?

[mossy citrus]

my keyboard i posted in build pics

[fleet pasture]

Ohhhh

[fleet pasture]

Thank you but that’s a lot of money

[cyan ravine]

Can I help you here lad, I can see you're after a certain aesthetic.

Here is the same list, same fans, only everything is better and faster, especially the ssd.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4V6dQP

If you don't believe me about the fans, you can look up the regular TL-B12's and they review identically to A12x25's, have the same performance, have the same quality, come from the same factory, and cost 1/3 of the price just because they don't say noctua lol.

Extreems are better overall than the Noctuas as they have a larger rpm range (the red is optional btw but it would go with the sapphire pulse tbf, the pulse being one of the best amd cards anyway)

The minor differences to each fan is the b12 has a more rounded edge on the blade tip, and a three prong cage instead of 4, but they otherwise review identically, often with the B12 just a little ahead and the extreem much further than that due to brute force

The aio also comes with 3 regular TL-B12's, and it's a better pump than the LFII or LFIII for a lot less at that, I figured you might like this cos you get all pretty much the same, but now you can fit a 7900XT instead of a 7800XT lol.

[wild peak]

I can always get into BIOS, but when I try to boot from the USB, the screen freezes and it stays like that. If I put it as my default boot drive and then let the computer boot, it immediately blue screens and restarts into the same process all over again

[wild peak]

I can send a video of it if you want

[little osprey]

Any good mice? I need to get something new

Got a 20 dollar gift card so my budget is 20 dollars lol

[obsidian wigeon]

Newegg?

Or Amazon

[little osprey]

Target

[obsidian wigeon]

Alright

[little osprey]

I could probably look for a specific model though

[obsidian wigeon]

I can try

[little osprey]

I preferrably don't like RGB or pretty much any color

Black suits me

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.target.com/p/philips-usb-wired-rgb-programmable-gaming-mouse-spk9414/-/A-91553957#lnk=sametab

This is probably what I would get if I were you

https://www.target.com/p/hyperx-pulsefire-haste-wired-gaming-mouse-for-pc-pink-white/-/A-86873149#lnk=sametab

Or perhaps eek out $20 in cash for this

[little osprey]

Pretty much what I have now just a honeycomb type lol

[obsidian wigeon]

White but it's a better mouse

[little osprey]

I can probably manage

I'm going for a black and white setup anyway

[obsidian wigeon]

I'd say it's worth it to buy the hyperx

Pixart sensor instead of whatever's on $20 mice

You're effectively paying 20 bucks for a much better mouse

Free is good, but these $20 tier mice are usually bleh

[cyan ravine]

Da essential iirc is about all that's good for $20

Has white led on white or green led on black tho

[little osprey]

I figured, i might buy the mouse if I can't think of anything else to buy

Just trying to find the small things to make my room look a bit more modern and sleek since were moving into a new home

[fleet pasture]

Will I be able to play lspdfr with as many mods as possible?

[cyan ravine]

Wot

Yes

[fleet pasture]

:D

How much fps do you think?

[cyan ravine]

Anywhere from 0-900

I don't know

Lol

[fleet pasture]

900 is a lot

[cyan ravine]

You can have 5000fps with minecraft with mods

Or you can have 12

It's an open book

[fleet pasture]

Woah

[cyan ravine]

Fun fact, the fps limit for gta 5 is only 160 iirc

Engine won't go higher

[flint sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-computer-cleaning-fire-explosion-gif-27016976

[fleet pasture]

Why so low?

[wary gale]

Thanks

[cyan ravine]

Idk, I've never really understood engine limits

[fleet pasture]

Can’t you get like an app or something to make it higher to something?

[wary gale]

Would this pc last me a while

[flint sapphire]

a subjective yes

[cyan ravine]

If "I just bought an almost highest end pc" doesn't come with "I will last a while with this" I don't know what will

Lol

[cyan ravine]

No idea, I never got into the gta rp stuff that heavily

Only during it's early days

[cyan ravine]

The idea of buying for future proofing is never a good idea tho, tomorrow they could unveil something crazy like, idk a.i based ray tracing and all future products are 30x faster than older products @wary gale

The idea that you will last a while with a pc is assumed but can never be a matter of fact

It's why most people say there's no such thing as futureproofing

In the pc space anyway

[frigid night]

This is a PC you built and installed windows on yourself?

Is secure boot enabled by chance?

[wild peak]

Yes I built it myself, and I’m not sure, how do I check?

[cyan ravine]

Usb not good enough to install windows it sounds like

[wild peak]

It’s 8 GB

[cyan ravine]

Being 8gb and running 8gb well are mutually exclusive things

On a new enough usb that shouldn't be an issue

If it's like a 15 year old worn out usb then yeah, might have trouble

[wild peak]

It’s very old, can’t remember from when

[potent portal]

I have a nice stack of USBs that simply don't work any more. Some of them would work for storage but I couldn't boot from them so I couldn't use them as OS install drives.

[cyan ravine]

Emphasis on worn out lol

[wild peak]

I have a 1T drive from last year that I’ll try later, I’m away from home rn

[wary gale]

Thx for explaining

Someone made me a cheap build but yours is better in my opinion

1600 rlly good

[cyan ravine]

Np

[wary gale]

Do u wanna see the build that someone suggested me

[cyan ravine]

I'm always open to ideas

There's a way to push the build you have further too, you could probably eek about another 100-200 out of that pc, but I don't think you'd fit another upgrade in that budget

Yeah doing the numbers in my head, about 130-ish, not really enough for an xtx or 4080 afaik

[wary gale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NnvCh3

That’s the build someone recommended me

[cyan ravine]

That one's fine but the ram is terrible

Cooler is also overkill

But overkill in a good way

[wary gale]

What’s the upgrade I could do?

[cyan ravine]

Mmmm what's the highest you can go on pc budget

Is the real question

[wary gale]

1850

[cyan ravine]

The other thing about this one is asrock stock coldplates tend to be rubbish on their coolers

The card is otherwise fine tho

1850 you could definitely just pop an xtx in

No other effort required

[wary gale]

Is it that big of an ingame difference?

[cyan ravine]

About 16% give or take

[wary gale]

Not bad

[cyan ravine]

For 16-20% ish more cash

It's more or less the same value tbh

The best value card imo is the gre in this instance

You can get near 7900xt performance for 550 instead

But you need to play with the card a bit to achieve it

[wary gale]

Can I overclock it or is it already over clocked

[cyan ravine]

Since it runs on almost the same core as a 7900xt but with slower memory and a smaller bus it has a few bandwidth limits that weigh it down

[cyan ravine]

You can overclock it

Though your mileage will vary for stability, as it always does with overclocking

[wary gale]

Alright

[cyan ravine]

Again recommending the pulse, as long as it's the cheapest or near cheapest

Merc310 is nice too

But all 3 cards, the xtx, the 7900xt and the gre, all can just slot right in to this pc build

Just choose how much you want to spend

[wary gale]

Anyway I can cut cost a little

If I add xtx

[cyan ravine]

Ye you can cut it back a little bit going to matx board, matx case, 1tb drive and abandon the extra fans

Less rgb on the ram helps too

This could also fit in budget if you prefer nvidia

https://www.ebay.com/itm/326067551341?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Iz0RvovrT92&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[wary gale]

Now that I think about it the ram is a little pricy

Any cheaper ones yet aesthetic ones you know

[dusky hearth]

Because it isn't a fps game

[cyan ravine]

@wary gale would look more or less like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dnh8BL

The ram looks slower but that's because it's the same ram as before but without an xmp

It goes equally as fast if not faster if you know how to use it

Tcreate agbd normally can clock up to 8000+

[wary gale]

Dang

1695

That’s great

[cyan ravine]

Not really an ideal matx board at 125 atm

[wary gale]

Thanks man

[cyan ravine]

Next best is that itx board, still solid 8 phase power tho

[wary gale]

I’ll probably keep everything besides storage

I want 2 rb

Tb

[cyan ravine]

Sounds good, you can mix and match some of this stuff around to fit your budget if you want

[wary gale]

Have lots of games on steam and I record YouTube videos

[cyan ravine]

An xtx should play anything at 1440p

[wary gale]

Amd is fine to record with right?

[cyan ravine]

Hell it can do 4k reasonably at that if you temper expectations

[cyan ravine]

It can

[wary gale]

I’ve always had an nvidia so it will be nice seeing how amd is like

[cyan ravine]

It's not bad at it either, just be wary h.264 doesn't look great but most platforms should be evolved from h.264 in the next couple years anyway

Twitch for example is moving to av1 shortly

H.265 (hevc) doesn't suffer like h.264 on amd

H.264 is the only one I'm aware of either

If you think you need it tho, the 4080 I linked is fine

Just be careful with the 12vhpwr

[wary gale]

I heard that 4080 is the worst value to performance card right now tho