building-and-recc-chat

[stoic island]

for a cool cool price of 25,000 euros you get the full experience

[cyan ravine]

Sit down and play flight simulator at like 20fps but it's triple 4k

[stoic island]

lol

[cyan ravine]

Oh the other thing you could do

Get a 2nd gen g9

Specifically the 2nd gen

Not the neos

[stoic island]

whats wrong with the neos?

oh wait those are the va

[cyan ravine]

Neos fall apart under their own weight and heat

💀

[stoic island]

lmao alright

[cyan ravine]

Look up "g9 cracking reddit"

Good times lmao

[stoic island]

very cool

[cyan ravine]

But the 2nd and 1st gen use QLED (it's listed as VA) so they're actually pretty good for colour work and gaming

And seem to be ok afaik

As far as cracking

[stoic island]

why would they list it as VA? that's kinda weird

I thought they're non-oled and just va

[cyan ravine]

Idk

Every qled on pcpp is listed as va

They are va

But they're also qled

So idk

Qled is a lot better than plain va imo

[stoic island]

I mean like even samsung says va

dunno

are the pixels vertically alligned still or smth?

oh it is

[cyan ravine]

Ye they're aligned the same

But quantum dot

[plucky timber]

NOOOOO

[stoic island]

like it actually just looks like rgb

fun

[cyan ravine]

Idk when I type it in I immediately find the qled version

Try "g95t"

[cyan ravine]

Also this is neo

[lean anchor]

This is giving me some ideas, but really quick is there a reason that I should go with the white build you provided ovee what I had built, and is the price difference due to RGB?

[cyan ravine]

I mean most of the builds we make here are really price optimised

[stoic island]

You're talking about this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gqXRxH
Over this right?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XLJnBL

[cyan ravine]

So you get something decent without overpaying

Ok over that 2nd one with 7900x definitely

3500 is way too much for a 4080 build

[stoic island]

Or are you talking about the white vs the non-white build

[cyan ravine]

I never saw that build lol

The black one imo is if you don't mind the loss of aesthetics (mostly, it still will look decent) to save an extra 200

2300 vs 2500 really

Both are leagues better than 3500

Like I wouldn't pick either strix options ever

[stoic island]

(more like 3000 without monitor cost, but still, 500$+ saved and you get better performance)

[cyan ravine]

Strix gpus are nice but never worth the retail

And strix motherboards these days are just rebranded primes

So you're really paying like $200+ for a $140 board with a facelift

[stoic island]

(insert buildzoid ranting about how every modern motherboard is overbuilt vrm wise)

[cyan ravine]

Sure

Well

Mostly

💀

[stoic island]

We don't talk about the few really cheap boards

But like I think even ds3h is fine now

[cyan ravine]

Ye ds3h works for a lot of chips now

Their new base level is like s2h

The new ds3h

Lol

[stoic island]

Ds3h went from like will melt if you put in a 3900x to you can probably boost fine with a 14900k

[cyan ravine]

Lol

I mean it's still a little sketch on Intel's side

But on amd that thing will do 7950x

Won't flinch

[stoic island]

But we can't deny that they are putting much better chokes on the vrms

[cyan ravine]

Ye for sure

Long way better than "this will run a 4 core"

[stoic island]

Went from like 60a stages only on the best boards to everyone gets 60a stages

[cyan ravine]

Even the doubled ones

[stoic island]

Yea

They're putting in so many that they're running them twinned on budget boards smh

[lean anchor]

And what's the difference between that NVME and mine as far as reliability?

[mossy venture]

I'd trust mp44 over any samsung ssd

Samsung had firmware that was killing their ssds and there's still a chance you get a bad one, it's a simple fix of updating the firmware

But considering it's $80 less for no difference for 99% of people, why not just avoid the problem all together

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DNKqMV

That's a lot of ssd choices that are above 6500mb/s (99% sure anyways and don't feel like checking each one to confirm.)

[lean anchor]

I'll take your word for it.

[stoic island]

can check with
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/htmlview#gid=0

[analog hearth]

"Oh you're an SSD fan? Name every SSD."

[stoic island]

still missing lots lol

[potent portal]

No no, you misunderstood, I'm a SSD fan with the spinning blades and heatsink

[stoic island]

how does it feel spinning all the time

[potent portal]

I got dizzy at first but you get used to it

[crimson zinc]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256458672340?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=yNOHl04BSni&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rej26bxrr_g&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

What’s this kind of pc called?

[lean anchor]

Should I get more case fans or is the AIO enough?

[potent portal]

Like the form factor? Mini PC, sometimes called NUC

[stoic island]

With the Hyte Y40, 2 fans are included, and with the AIO, you'll have 3 more fans, which can be enough, but you have the option to get 2 more fans for side intake

[lean anchor]

Well that side panel will take the AIO I believe though I could be wrong, if not then the AIO goes on the bottom and I will use some extra fans that I have in my wish list I guess.

[crimson zinc]

That’s the word I was looking for

[languid nimbus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XnGkrv

What changes would yall make to this?

[stoic island]

AIO should be mounted on top, the side will be intake

[mossy venture]

Could grab mp44 4tb

[mossy venture]

^

[languid nimbus]

Gotcha. Do you think that cooler is sufficient for 7800x3d?

[mossy venture]

Other than that not much

Yeah, I mean $20 more for a phantom spirit isn't a bad idea but functionality wise it won't really make a difference

Stock cooler is overkill for the 7700x3d lmao

Are you anti rgb?

And did you choose the im01 for the size?

[languid nimbus]

Eh so so, it’s for my buddy. Just threw something together real quick. It’ll be his first pc

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DFCwvj

If I remember right I've heard not so great things about the gaming trio on amd

[languid nimbus]

Got it, thanks!

[mossy venture]

Just to clarify the im01 is great too

This is just a diff size/aesthetic option

[weary galleon]

If using IM01 make sure the gpu and power supply will fit

IIRC with a 3 fan gpu and ATX psu, depending on the PSU length there can be compatibility issues

[languid nimbus]

Gotcha gotcha

[weary galleon]

There is a spec sheet lemme find it

https://www.tecware.co/fusion

Same case, different name

"flowchart" at the bottom for size compatibility

I guess psu length doesn't matter, huh

[rough totem]

#build-pics message
Ooh, look at that sexy cable management!

[crimson zinc]

we aren’t gonna look at my fiancés pc cable management
I may have just stuffed wires back there since there’s a good chunk of room

[cobalt prism]

I’m getting a solid white qled reading on my asus proart x570 motherboard. It’s completely sudden, up until today it’s been posting with 0 issues at all. I have 2 gpus, an RTX 3060ti and a gt 1030. After solving infinite issues and trying to get it to post, I finally got it to post on the gt 1030 once. I cannot replicate it. But when i was posted i found that the 3060 wasn’t even being registered. So I’m not sure what happened overnight but it seems to me like my gpu is dead.

Solid white qled means it’s having connection issues with the gpu

i can replicate the boot when i do not have the allegedly broken 3060 installed

[stoic island]

Anything happen to the PC recently? Anything like a recent driver update, recent overclocking, windows insider, or any experimental software beta or anything like that?

[lean anchor]

Okay sooooo. I went to buy this ships within 1-2 months.

[cobalt prism]

a few weeks ago i used msi afterburner to overclock my 3060. it went very poorly as after I altered the settings and restarted my computer there was terrible issues booting. it would freeze just a few seconds after logging in, so i logged in with safe mode and uninstalled msi afterburner. a graphics driver update was maybe a week ago, aside from those, nothing that i noticed was different

[lean anchor]

I don't have that kind of patience lol what about the XB283K, not worried about the 240hz all that much as the human eye can't perceive much about 160hz anyway plus saves quite a bit of money.

[cobalt prism]

the only thing I can add is that I shut it down while it was restarting which is kind of a smoking gun

^ i switched the configuration of my gpus, the gt 1030 is in the closer pci slot and the 3060 is in the farther one. The fans on the 3060 are spinning but no post to the monitor connected to it

[potent portal]

Anything different when you try with just the 3060 ti in an alternate slot?

[cobalt prism]

I’ll try it

[leaden mauve]

anyone wanna put together a part list for primarily editing 12k .braw footage because im too lazy aesthetics dont matter

🫡

[stoic island]

Grab the KTC then, the next link that felix sent

[potent portal]

Is that 12k budget or 12k resolution

[leaden mauve]

res

[potent portal]

What budget then

[leaden mauve]

no budget, but best value possible

at least 2 nvme slots, a case with probably 4 3.5" bays to be safe

[mossy venture]

14900ks 👍

[cobalt prism]

Completes the boot cycle, no post though. Solid white q-led

[mossy venture]

what is your ideal budget range

[leaden mauve]

tbh im curious what hardware yall r thinking for this

[stoic island]

that's a pretty different panel, the x27u was recommended for being oled, and the xb283k is a ips panel

[potent portal]

Yeah that's a dead GPU then

Sorry for your loss

[cobalt prism]

Unlucky

[potent portal]

Very small chance it's actually the power supply

[mossy venture]

for a budget one, maybe 12600k and a750/a770?

[cobalt prism]

Posts with other gpu though

[potent portal]

The other GPU is also a 1030 that uses 70W max

A lot of models don't even need external power

[cobalt prism]

Yeah it doesn’t use external power

I have a 700w psu on standby

[potent portal]

You could try powering the 3060 ti from just the spare unit

That way you don't need to tear apart your build

[cobalt prism]

I see, so like just botch it all together for a bit

[potent portal]

Just to test if it's the PSU

Or the cable

[mossy venture]

? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wpgPTY

fill in storage and gpu as you feel needed

can swap to 13700/14700, would prob need an aio for the latter

[potent portal]

Stick a paperclip in the pins with yellow and green squares, then switch on the spare unit, then switch on the main unit. That's the proper way to external power. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/589689072692494356/1223803609041342627/PSU_Paper_Clip_Test_5.png

[mossy venture]

oh or 12700k

[lean anchor]

Yeah just saw that any other recommendations?

I have already placed the order for everything else though.

[mossy venture]

here's a list of monitor suggestions (from me) atm https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YYfd28

[lean anchor]

Picked up a double charge for the gpu though which isn't cool

[stoic island]

this is basically the same panel as the x27u, I think a refreshed version?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CSGWXVBN

[cobalt prism]

Yeah we’re cooked. Even after trying to jump the gpu it still wont post

I guess the reason it died is because of the shutdown while restarting

[lean anchor]

Hmm it puts me a bit over my budget though.... is it massively worth the OLED price?

[dusky hearth]

i have never seen a cpu die from it being powered down like that

gpu *

[mossy venture]

honestly no, not vs a $200-250 1440p IPS monitor

[dusky hearth]

though neither with a cpu either

normally they die from overvoltage/power surges

[mossy venture]

it is a much better experience yeah

but $520-600 extra?

[dusky hearth]

depends on the content you consume i guess

if you watch alot of movies and such, maybe it is worth it

[cobalt prism]

Well i have a power adapter that protect powersurges

But its from walmart so who knows about its efficacy

[dusky hearth]

probably dollar store quality

[cobalt prism]

Is there a way i can find out if its dead using a multimeter

[lean anchor]

Okay so would you recommend just a normal QHD or UHD since I would be paying so much more?

[stoic island]

For the color accuarcy and image quality, it's just on a different level. We're recommending it since you mentioned that you are doing some texturing work where color accuracy would matter, but if you need to save the money, save the few hundred.

[mossy venture]

cpu and gpu?

[dusky hearth]

there could be multiple situations for why it's not working, ranging from it just being dead or somehow the vbios got corruped?

[stoic island]

It was a 7950x3d and 4080 super

[lean anchor]

Yup

[dusky hearth]

yep ☠️

[lean anchor]

My bad on the quote it's late

[dusky hearth]

lmfao

"does your pc have a cpu and a gpu" frfr

[mossy venture]

could go either way

[lean anchor]

Nah I just put some crayons in place of the gpu and the cpu got an abacus.

[dusky hearth]

average baby

[mossy venture]

average marine

[lean anchor]

Facts

[dusky hearth]

nah marines dont know how to use an abacus

[stoic island]

but they do know their crayons

[dusky hearth]

real

[potent portal]

If you take off the cooler you can poke around the power stages and see if you get continuity to ground, usually the back of the GPU works as ground

[lean anchor]

Nope but they got their favorite flavor of blue

[dusky hearth]

what flavour's your fav

[lean anchor]

Personally I prefer silver..... possibly enough lead in it for mad hatters

With that said I can just eat tilapia...

Anyway the consensus is it's not really needed? The OLED I mean.

[stoic island]

It's really nice, and it really has a difference, but the price is not for everyone

With something like this, it might be worth visiting like a local best buy and taking a look at an oled panel in person if they have one on display

[lean anchor]

I might do that tomorrow morning, I get everything between tomorrow and Saturday, so it might be worth it to see what it looks like I suppose. Just don't want to temporarily use a TV you know...

[stoic island]

You can also grab any of the other oled panels that's not the x27u

[crimson zinc]

These are the only things I should be installing for my mb, right?

[stoic island]

like the x27u uses the same panel as the ktc panel, and the LG monitor I linked a bit ago is the refresh of that same panel

[stoic island]

don't grab msi center or the msi versions of cpuz or aida tbh

although I think cpuz is fine, just a reskin, MSI didn't do anything to that specific version

[lean anchor]

Thing is with that I can either get the msi at the 718 and another 27" for 109 or just the LG

[crimson zinc]

This is a fresh pc, so I have literally nothing on it yet besides Firefox and nvidia settings

[lean anchor]

I would prefer to have a dual monitor setup for the multitasking I do.

[crimson zinc]

So just these 3 then?

[cobalt prism]

I do want to note one thing though before i give up, in the beginning of my troubleshooting, i managed to enter bios on the 3060, however it wouldn’t boot to windows after that

[stoic island]

yea

[stoic island]

are you talking about the msi ultrawide oled panel?

that might be enough screen real estate to not need more screens

actually wait thats only 34in thought it was 40in, still more space but not that much more

[lean anchor]

Nah the monitor I mentioned earlier.

[stoic island]

uhh

which one?

[lean anchor]

XB283K

[stoic island]

oh acer

[stoic island]

for 4k144 IPS, you don't need to pay like 700$, should be like 400$ like a m28u
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094NX6C8R

[mossy venture]

$550-600 for 32"

[stoic island]

On that note, m28u is a good option if you don't feel like trying oled

[crimson zinc]

Oled >>> my grandma

[cobalt prism]

Also i can’t understand how, if there was a surge, why would only the one gpu be damaged and not anything else

UMMMMM

I just put the 3060 in another computer and it’s working fine

[lean anchor]

M28 ordered

[obsidian wigeon]

Sounds like psu issue

[leaden mauve]

i dont think this can handle 12k footage bro

[obsidian wigeon]

The shutdown was probably where the psu died

[cobalt prism]

then this is much easier to cope with

[mossy venture]

give me an ideal price range.

and if you mean bc no gpu, i said to fill in gpu/ssd with whatever you feel necesary

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xkWrQP

[cyan ravine]

Why are they editing 12k

Who tf are they

Is this some astronomer or hollywood assistant

[leaden mauve]

yea they do professional work

[cyan ravine]

For who tho, 12k is extreme even by professional standards

[leaden mauve]

idk

not my business

[cyan ravine]

Lol

We have a TV and radio producer in here a few months ago who's happy on a 4070ti

So idk

12K sounds a bit overkill

[leaden mauve]

apparently editing 12k braw footage was pretty buggy in like 2020 but idk how it is now

i figured a 4070ti or similar would be good too

[cyan ravine]

Looking online and there are tons of vids of like, 3090 PC's lol

I'm thinking 4070 ti too but probably the super for the bus width

4070 super is really close to both of these

[leaden mauve]

tru

[cyan ravine]

12600kf, 4070 ti super

128gb ddr4 specifically

As much storage as Jupiter

750w psu, small-ish case for moving about

[leaden mauve]

I was thinking high end AM5 or just going threadripper at that point. i need to ask them more questions

[cyan ravine]

Sure but I don't think cpu is as much an extreme bottleneck these days

There's as much reason for threadripper but it all depends on scope and the type of use

[mossy venture]

we need a budget

[leaden mauve]

no budget lol

[cyan ravine]

Like, say they jump from set to set a lot and they're really mobile

[mossy venture]

bc there are so many different options

then yes threadripper

[cyan ravine]

Having a plumbed threadripper would be hindering as you have a 30kg rig to move around

Need more details

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tgZ2wg

[cyan ravine]

But I think 12600kf/4070 ti super would be very strong already

[cyan ravine]

Would avoid 13900ks/14900k/f/s until they address the silicon degradation scandal atm

It's been known for a while, these late games are just dragging the issues to light

[leaden mauve]

yea i asked about mobility, it's unneeded

[cyan ravine]

They probably want a case with a lot of hotswap bays tbh

So something like enthoo pro or a meshify 2

There's gonna be tons of storage involved

[leaden mauve]

Yea

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zJBrQP

5 m.2 slots on that mobo

[cyan ravine]

Ask me if this board supports 2x8@4.0/5.0 and I won't remember

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z8x9dH

But to this effect

Would be maximum

Or at least

The maximum pcpp will show

[leaden mauve]

based psu choice

[cyan ravine]

You could talk with forks about this, he'd know pretty well on the type of system

[leaden mauve]

probably not gonna go for a liquid cooled card though

[cyan ravine]

And with all those epycs and threadrippers around

Liquid cooled for 1st slot

So not choked

[leaden mauve]

Gonna do more research to see if the <24GB vram bug is still a thing

[cyan ravine]

Bruh you laugh but he's sent pics lol

[leaden mauve]

im laughing because its very true

[cyan ravine]

It feels like a yugioh collection sometimes

[leaden mauve]

my yugioh collection is better

[cyan ravine]

And you know

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fcyxqR

This could likely handle it too

More of a measure of how fast

Rather than a measure of how much

[mossy venture]

doesnt intel igpu help a lot with video editing

[leaden mauve]

I shouldve written down their answers to my questions but it kinda came outta nowhere

[cyan ravine]

With this person

[cyan ravine]

Does

Forgot

Yeah you should get some more details about it

Things like oled are huge for video as well

[leaden mauve]

I think he has display covered

[cyan ravine]

They may have reference screens

Ik but it's worth asking

[leaden mauve]

yea for sure

I forget why theyre switching from a mac for this too

[cyan ravine]

Like mac pro?

It'll be slow

Mac pro is great for adobe suite but it's in no measure a threadripper rig

It's still an arm laptop chip in a laptop heat envelope

Unless it's that other one that looks like apple's version of an xbox lol

That one has that issue with proprietary ssds iirc

[limber oyster]

Welp, whoever did the thermal paste on my 6800xt used a very WET and WATERY thermal paste

[quasi kettle]

thats not good the thermal paste will probably leak to the other components and mess it up and it will overheat badly

[dusky hearth]

Mess it up? Nah

It's nonconductive

It'll just look messy

Also it might have been mx5 or smth

There was one formula that had alot of bad batches

[quasi kettle]

its possible for the thermal paste to start harden on some of the necessary components ruining it

[dusky hearth]

that still wont ruin it

you can just clean it off with isopropyl

[obsidian wigeon]

Most paste are non conductive

And won't damage anything

[dusky hearth]

but covering the entire gpu pcb with most thermal pastes aint gonna do anything

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[quasi kettle]

<

[cunning oar]

Shared List https://newegg.io/8cdad69

New to pc building any tips on list or comparability problems/ other parts that would be better

[mossy venture]

Link didn't work

What's your total budget, do you need wifi or are you using ethernet, do you just need the pc or do you need monitor as well, do you have any personal preference for things like nvidia over AMD or aesthetics, and what is the pc being used for

Oh and do you live in the US? If so, do you live near a microcenter

Sorry for overload of questions

[cunning oar]

Perferably around or under 2000 Ill probally be using wifi for a good bit before running my Ethernet through the attic, i got a monitor currently, no preference just preformance.. Gaming. I do live in the US, closest microcenter 2 hours away

[mossy venture]

What's the monitor?

[cunning oar]

No worries I appreciate your help

[mossy venture]

If you dont know model, what resolution?

[cunning oar]

Its a samsung curved 26 inch ive had for probally 6 years from my first prebuilt

[cunning oar]

75hz if i had to guess

[mossy venture]

Alr ima ibclude a new monitor in budget just give me a lil bit

[cunning oar]

You can keep it seperate if you want that’s alright

2k pc build) it can be a little above if its a good deal i had a list but the link wont work

Ill be back in a bit though appreciate the help

[mossy venture]

I'm unsure on this monitor
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YYmFL9

I'm more sure on this one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d

Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W6QKHx/msi-g272qpf-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-g272qpf

And you can also stay well under budget while still getting a great pc
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7t9tFs

[distant basin]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qrRmh3
any tips?

[cyan ravine]

At face glance

3 things

Psu, case, ssd

[dusky hearth]

Sata SSD???

[cyan ravine]

But I'd have to look more thoroughly for better advice, those three should def change yeah

[dusky hearth]

No nvme ☠️

[distant basin]

the SN850X has nvme?

im confused, whats wrong with the SN850x 😂

[dusky hearth]

I don't see a sn850x on your list

[distant basin]

OHHH i sent the wrong link mb 🤡

[dusky hearth]

💀

[deep spruce]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2TFKDZ I would like to have a new case for my Gaming PC but i dont know what one would look slick an have all this in it I do know its a ATM Mid

[cyan ravine]

@distant basin https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZhYQsh

Wouldn't have to do white tho but a lot more sustenance here

[distant basin]

oh thanks

[cyan ravine]

I think if there's another similar price black motherboard this would look more like, 2300, 2350-ish

[dusky hearth]

truly a 2014 looking case

[deep spruce]

LOL I know I need a Updated one LOL

[cyan ravine]

Yeah here we go

@distant basin https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/tBxbHG

[dusky hearth]

do you have a budget for what you want to spend on a newer case
and is there any specific aesthetic that you want to match

[cyan ravine]

Nvm more like 2500

💀

Bit cheaper tho

And you keep the xfx

[deep spruce]

Not really I'm a Security Guard an I will be updating everything in time.

[cyan ravine]

Phanteks xt pro is pretty good for $50

[dusky hearth]

hmm

[cyan ravine]

Get that with some thermalright c12c's

Or c12c-s'

3 pack

Would be about $62 before tax

[deep spruce]

Can you put that in the Link that i gave please an thank you

[cyan ravine]

Why is it

Why is it saying not compatible

[deep spruce]

No So I can have it save

[cyan ravine]

Oh it's not got a disc drive

WHOAG

Do you still want a disc drive?

[dusky hearth]

damn

someone with a disk drive

[distant basin]

thank u man

[cyan ravine]

Np

The mobo kinda for itx tho

It's a good board but ye you could pick a different one

Like b650m-a pro if it's similar price-ish

Or b650m/hdv m.2

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Dq4Zxr/asrock-b650m-hdvm2-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-hdvm2

This board holds the AM5 OC record

And it's 170$

[distant basin]

[deep spruce]

Would be Nice

[dusky hearth]

those cases be rare

[cyan ravine]

https://wccftech.com/asrock-110-us-b650-motherboard-sets-overclocking-world-record-amd-ryzen-9-7950x-cpu/amp/

[cyan ravine]

Fractal pop air is the only choice then

Barely any cases sell with a spot for a disc drive now

[dusky hearth]

yeah only the pop air is a modern case with a disk drive slot ☠️

everything else seems old

or doesnt have enough airflow

hmm yes the b o x

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6VCZxr/silverstone-cs382-atx-mid-tower-case-sst-cs382 oh hey hotswap 3.5" trays lmfao

(this case is $300)

[deep spruce]

Dam its a cofen LOL

[crimson zinc]

I want the box

[storm arrow]

Here for the 1000th time

Okay I see the rtx 4090 founters edition is back in stock worth the 1599 or should I get a different brand?

[mossy venture]

Get it

If you want a 4090 get it

If you don't need the vram and it's for gaming I would much rather save $600 or $700 and go 4080 super or 7900xtx, but if you will only consider 4090, get whatever you can find cheapest

[vivid copper]

The founders edition is just fine and is pretty much the only 4090 that'll you'll get for anything close to the original MSRP. So if that's what you want/need there is no reason to not get it.

[storm arrow]

Strictly for gaming

[vivid copper]

You gaming at 4K?

[storm arrow]

Yeah

[vivid copper]

Then that's gonna be your best bet. And that's as cheap as you're gonna get one.

[storm arrow]

The cooling fans are decent on the founders edition?

[fossil cedar]

yeah theyre grand

[analog hearth]

meme case

[potent portal]

Every 4090 has an overkill cooler design. Even though the FE is smaller, it's still plenty powerful.

[crimson zinc]

I’m thinking of switching my wishlist to a 4080 super

[cunning oar]

I like this list im just curious about the fans and the video card, this video card outpreforms the Nvidia 4070 supreme ti? (Costs like 200 less)

And id probally pay more for fans because a lot of prebuilts i was looking at people complained about bad fans and i never liked the look of the cases

[mossy venture]

Xtx is similar to the 4080 super

So yes

And these fans are very good quality

If you want premium fans, here
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MvWJ7P/thermalright-tl-b12-extrem-112-cfm-120-mm-fan-tl-b12-extrem

These are among the best on the market

[cunning oar]

Sweet appreciate that

Check this out on @Newegg:Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX PC Smart Case, Black, CC-9011212-WW https://www.newegg.com/black-corsair-icue-5000x-rgb-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139163?Item=N82E16811139163&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-11-139-163-_-04182024

[potent portal]

5000X is one of the worst cases in existence

[cunning oar]

This is the case i was thinking of getting idk if it would be worth it or just get something simple yk

LOL actually?

[potent portal]

Your parts will choke on their own exhaust

[cunning oar]

[potent portal]

It has near zero air flow

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jpddnQ/montech-sky-two-atx-mid-tower-case-sky-two-black

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Frn9TW/montech-king-95-atx-mid-tower-case-king-95-black

[cunning oar]

This one seems pretty nice

[mossy venture]

Also nv5, o11, hyte y series

[cunning oar]

Montech is a bit too much glass

[mossy venture]

Sky two is among my favorite cases

[cunning oar]

Yeah i like the look of it

[mossy venture]

Both are montech lol, but I got what you meant

[potent portal]

If you wanted to go with a corsair case for the looks/name, the 5000D Airflow is good too

Specifically the airflow model

[mossy venture]

Here get this one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/s87G3C/lian-li-lancool-205-mesh-c-atx-mid-tower-case-g99oe764cp00am

Honestly my next build might be in that ^

[potent portal]

That case is very nice yes, near the top on a lot of charts

[cunning oar]

Very nice but also very pink

[mossy venture]

Not many good pink cases around

[cunning oar]

Id believe that

[mossy venture]

Phanteks did fantastic with this case imo
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TGzXsY/phanteks-xt-pro-ultra-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-xt523p1-dwt01

[cunning oar]

That one’s nice similar to the corsair one I was looking at

[potent portal]

I'm still laughing at the name though

[mossy venture]

Yeah lmao

[potent portal]

SEO optimizing on point

[mossy venture]

The naming was a game of darts

[cunning oar]

Wish i could link my newegg pc builder but the links busted

Maybe i should do it through that pcbuilder website like you guys do since it checks multiple websites?

[crimson zinc]

Talking to a friend, what was bad about these

[mossy venture]

Yes 100%

I wouldnt limit yourself to any one retailer

[mossy venture]

Overpriced and underperforming

[cunning oar]

@mossy venture https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4ddrQP i liked the one you sent earlier is there any components you think i should put more money into?

Would that motherboard be good for that case?

[crimson zinc]

Didn’t they also have space issues?

I can’t remember if I talked about it here

[twin sedge]

$350 for a case

with a pretty basic design

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FCPQzy/cooler-master-haf-700-evo-atx-full-tower-case-h700e-ignn-s00
I’m spending $500 on this case if I ever have rich people money

Idc

[twin sedge]

gaming radiator

[crimson zinc]

It’s cool as frick and it’s over 50kg

[crimson zinc]

Although

If I was a Star Trek fan

I’d get a borg

https://mycherrytree.com/products/star-trek-picard-borg-cube-atx

Fully custom made, no two cases are the same
Can fit multiple 4090s in it

[mossy venture]

The mobo is good, you can get an atx one if you want to

Probably eagle ax or livemixer

[runic spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-fortnite-cube-cube-fortnite-cube-fortnite-season5-gif-14309663

[mossy venture]

KEVIN

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-horror-bad-memories-apocalypse-blue-shirt-gif-16881542

its been years

[mossy venture]

i miss kevin

[regal blade]

We all do

He had a special place in OG Fortnite gamers hearts

💐Prime Fortnite 2017-2019 🪦💐 “You will be missed”

[plucky timber]

kinda mid case ngl

surface is too smooth

[quasi kettle]

O v e r k i l l

[crimson zinc]

Is there a cheaper mb with wifi for this build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ysyLgB

[mossy venture]

b450 ds3h wifi prolly

if not a520m plus wifi

[storm arrow]

My buddy referred the Samsung odyssey monitor now looking at them there a bunch of them. What's the main difference between the g6 and the neo g8

[mossy venture]

theyre all bad value honestly

g6 is 1440p looks like

and g8 is 4k

[storm arrow]

So get an lg?

Or what do you have in mind

[mossy venture]

brand is irrelevant

what resolution do you want

and what games are you playing

[storm arrow]

4k

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CgbcL9

i keep posting the wrong link on pc lmao

[autumn wolf]

do i buy a refurb wegg gpu

https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-6700-xt-axrx-6700xt-12gbd6-3dhe-oc/p/N82E16814131781T

[crimson zinc]

That’s a decent price

@mossy venture https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wxkzL9
How about the best gpu performance for under $200? I’ll do preowned/ebay prices.

I wanna keep my total build price under $600 as best as possible

[obsidian wigeon]

definitely not a 3060

you can get like 6600xt

2080 maybe

[crimson zinc]

I saw an eBay deal for it

[mossy venture]

if you can find 6600xt, 6650xt, 2070 super, 2080, 2080 super, 3060 ti, 6700xt, 5700xt, etc around the same price those would be better choices

6600xt/6650xt/2070 super if theyre cheaper

others if they're cheaper or same price

[crimson zinc]

What about 2080ti? @mossy venture

I thought that was ahead of 2080 super

[mossy venture]

yes

[crimson zinc]

Ah, slightly out of price range

Cheapest on eBay is $249

What would be the best possible performance for $200? @mossy venture

I’m min-maxing

[mossy venture]

for gpu?

or the whole pc

[crimson zinc]

Gpu

[mossy venture]

if you can find it 2080 ti

[crimson zinc]

What about if that’s out of the question

[mossy venture]

6700xt

2080 super

2080

6650xt

5700xt/6600xt

[crimson zinc]

In that order?

[mossy venture]

yes

[crimson zinc]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/404931249064?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=gaqnsu9qqyi&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rej26bxrr_g&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[mossy venture]

6600 is a lil bit worse than 3060 12gb

solid price

[crimson zinc]

$60 cheaper tho

Oh wait

That’s not the xt

[mossy venture]

ye

lil bit worse tha 3060 12gb

like 5%?

maybe a bit more

[crimson zinc]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116144355697?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=CSEI6mFnR4-&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rej26bxrr_g&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

That’s the right one

[mossy venture]

solid

honestly $10 more for the extra vram of the 3060 isnt bad

it is a bit better raw perf tho (6600xt)

[crimson zinc]

I think I might spend the extra when I can afford it to get the 2080ti

How’s this then? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t8N2wg

I shouldn’t need 32gb, so I’m gonna switch that down to 16 for now

[mossy venture]

nice

[weary galleon]

Just a heads up, that motherboard only has 1 m.2 slot

Also, from experience with a 3600x & 3060ti at 1080p there may be a cpu bottleneck in some games. Either that or I had a really *poopy 3600x

2080ti is like 10% faster than 3060ti as well iirc

[crimson zinc]

I only need 1

I don’t install a lot

[weary galleon]

I mean if you think so I guess

[crimson zinc]

What about an upgrade for the cpu? What’s the next direct cheapest option?

[weary galleon]

5600 I think

[mossy venture]

i had the opposite experience

[weary galleon]

I mean you'll be gpu limited in most things

[mossy venture]

direct upgrades would be 5600, 11400f, 12400f,

10700k

9700k

[weary galleon]

But I was getting cpu bottlenecked kinda hard in Apex especially which I played a lot

Also Warzone

[mossy venture]

those are both cpu focused, so fair

[crimson zinc]

5600 on eBay is around $115 where the 3600 is $74

[weary galleon]

Anyways like if someone already owned a 3600 and wanted to upgrade to a 3060ti/2080ti ish card I don't think it would be a bad idea. But the 5600 just leaves a lot more room for a gpu upgrade in a fresh build

[mossy venture]

go for it champ

mhm

not my favorite dude

nice

[plucky timber]

What games specifically?

My old setup had a 3600 and a 5700XT

And I rarely ran into any straight up cpu bottleneck

(maybe because I was playing at 1440p)

(or maybe it's the genre of games i play)

[potent portal]

"Some games" is very vague. We could be talking about single threaded MMOs where you CPU bottleneck with a 1060.

[plucky timber]

Is it a bottleneck

If the gpu doesn't get used

Paradox games for instance

They barely use the gpu

[potent portal]

Yes that's the definition of bottleneck

Game engine bottlenecks are thing too

[weary galleon]

1440p would be fine, I was at 1080

[plucky timber]

I mean yeah the engine is the bottleneck here

[plucky timber]

Yeah that might be why I was seeing more gpu usage

[weary galleon]

Apex Legends, Warzone, maybe CSGO at one point but I dunno if that was the CPUs fault

[plucky timber]

Ok those are all cpu heavy games

[weary galleon]

Yup

I'm just saying in a new build if you pair a 3600 with something like a 3060ti/2080ti you're leaving very little room for a gpu upgrade without a cpu upgrade as well

[plucky timber]

ohh

Wait

Was he buying a new 3600?

Ok that explains a lot

[weary galleon]

Not sure if new or used, but yeah building a new-to-him system with one.

[plucky timber]

A two generation old cpu in a new pc is meh value

So yeah I definitely see the issue here

If it was used for like $60 maybe

lol I got too caught on the bottleneck part

But yeah on the topic of bottleneck

A lot of games still like single thread performance

Double edged sword tbh

On one hand it means that your cheap i3 might be able to match a higher tier cpu in single thread performance

But on the other hand the higher tier chips don't get fully utilised

[weary galleon]

I may be misremembering but someone here a while ago got like a 11000 or 12100 Intel chip and had issues with multithreaded tasks

Kenzie, I think it was? Haven't seen em in quite a while

[plucky timber]

Quad core i3

Good old days

[mossy venture]

Sips had a 12100f and 3090 and 3090 was the bottleneck

Tuned B die

[plucky timber]

I mean they're still quad cores but

Feels weird to only have 4 cores

[mossy venture]

I forgot what the other details were

[plucky timber]

When in 2017 it was the norm

[mossy venture]

Like what games and resolutions

[weary galleon]

Probably 4k

[mossy venture]

12100f was a solid budget recc for a good while

[plucky timber]

Yeah single threaded performance was the king

Those i3s are really good in those scenarios

But tell it to render a video and it gets destroyed by an i5

[mossy venture]

I'm on 13600k but ddr4

Rev E at 3600c16, I could do better but I don't really want to deal with it

[plucky timber]

lol

Meanwhile sodimm 3200 💀

CL22

[weary galleon]

Looks like the 12100 issue I was thinking of was playing a VR game via oculus link

[mossy venture]

I'm curious how my performance compares to 13600k with a 6000c32 kit

Tuned ddr5 hynix would smack mine around lmao

[plucky timber]

Yeah VR is a bit funky

Or flight sim

VR games and flight sim hammer the hell out of my cpu and gpu

Flight sim in particular really likes fast ssds

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DQqV9c

I cut it down

[potent portal]

1440p right

[crimson zinc]

Yes

I wish there was something bigger than 512gb, but cheaper than 1tb

[potent portal]

used hdd

[crimson zinc]

But load times will be terrible

Won’t they?

[potent portal]

Most games it doesn't make more than a couple seconds difference

[crimson zinc]

What about boot speed?

[potent portal]

Who said you'd be booting from it

[crimson zinc]

That’s true

[potent portal]

$20 for a 256gb ssd and $20 for a used 2tb hdd

[crimson zinc]

I was just typing that LMAO

Lemme update the list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xk9Xz6

What else can I do

[weary galleon]

Ehhhh

[crimson zinc]

@potent portal is there any places I can get an activated windows installed on the drive already?

[potent portal]

Not without paying more than the cost of a retail version of windows

It's cheaper to just get a usb drive

[crimson zinc]

I have a usb with a non-activated windows on it

[potent portal]

You don't need to activate it

[crimson zinc]

What does activating it do?

I’m not good with OS stuff

[potent portal]

Unlocks the personalization menu mostly

[crimson zinc]

…that’s it?

[potent portal]

There's a watermark that sometimes comes up on the bottom right reminding you to activate

[crimson zinc]

I’ve seen some posts on google that say I can use an old windows 7-8 key and then “upgrade” for free

Does that work?

@potent portal

With something like this

[obsidian wigeon]

We don't promote third party sites for keys due to the rules, but in the context of activation. I think it's still possible

[crimson zinc]

Alright.

[obsidian wigeon]

There's a way that you can pay less

Or not at all even lmao

[crimson zinc]

Do tell

[obsidian wigeon]

Lemme send it your way

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xk9Xz6
I just need to find a cheap 1440p monitor

[weary galleon]

If you think about it this would be really sketchy. Whoever activates it would essentially have full acess to your system before you get ahold of it

[crimson zinc]

That’s true

[obsidian wigeon]

I think they send the key to you

To activate by yourself

[crimson zinc]

What’s the cheapest 1440p monitor?

[obsidian wigeon]

one of those 100hz stuff

that looks like normal monitors

or you can get koorui monitors

surprisingly decent panels for the price

[weary galleon]

There's the refurb bacca posted in #tech-deals

[autumn wolf]

is this a decent enough price to consider buying. $260 6700 xt refurb from wegg

cheapest ive seen on ebay so far with little searching was about $280

https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-6700-xt-axrx-6700xt-12gbd6-3dhe-oc/p/N82E16814131781T

[obsidian wigeon]

imo worth it

nice deal

and a warranty better than ebay sellers

[autumn wolf]

second pc gonna be done quicker than i thought itd be 🗿

only $19 in tax. was expecting the tax to be higher

now to wait. psu comes in later today and gpu comes in on 23

spent too much money today

[modern quiver]

1080p is fine

But if you need one

Check microcenter

If you live nearish one

https://www.newegg.com/msi-pro-mp273qv-27-qhd/p/

Opps dead link

Check new egg and such

Or target

[gleaming arrow]

what's the cheapest I could realistically score a 5700xt for?

[mossy venture]

110-120

100 and under you'd have to be very lucky, but doable

[gleaming arrow]

Hmm

And how much can I sell my 570 for nowadays again? @mossy venture

[mossy venture]

Uhh

Maybe 60-70?

Not sure

[gleaming arrow]

Hmm okay that'd honestly pay for a decent bit of that

Alright

[cold sorrel]

Man, I haven’t been here in forever. But I have a brother who wants a new computer and doesn’t want to spend a fortune like his buddies did. So I’m gonna do research to give him a parts list and then offer to build it for him.

[mossy venture]

Whats his ideal budget?

[cold sorrel]

Hasn’t given me a solid one beyond yet besides “I ain’t paying 2000 dollars.”

[mossy venture]

Also here's a set of questions.

Country, does aesthetics matter, any preference for amd/nvidia, does he need wifi or is he using ethernet

[cold sorrel]

I’ve picked up his buddies may have bought systems from NZXT (he specifically name dropped that brand) or ones that used a lot of their parts.

[mossy venture]

Nzxt is very, very, painfully, mediocre and overpriced

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NjLYKX

Imo that's best value at the moment out of anything

[cold sorrel]

We’re in the US. I’m not sure of his aesthetics yet, but I can at least begin the research on core components. I know he wants to play the PC version of Rust. He has WiFi, but I’m going to try and convince him his computer would be better off directly wired to the router via Ethernet.

[mossy venture]

Here's cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MYwpkJ

[cold sorrel]

Though I’m worried if I look too much I’ll be tempted to make some personal upgrades.

[frigid night]

Do it 😁

[cold sorrel]

…maybe I could justify a new RAM kit to upgrade my memory (new kit to replace my current one due to how unlikely it would be to match it). 16 GB is starting to be a bottleneck. Ryzen 5600x is still a solid CPU, hopefully. And there’s nothing wrong with my EVGA 3060. (Other than I need to blow the dust out of my case).

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KV4BD3/oloy-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-md4u1636181chkda

[cold sorrel]

This is my part picker list from back when I built my rig (though I did end up bumping the PSU to 750W when I made the actual purchase)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9BzFLP

If a couple choices look odd, I built that during 2021 when availability could be iffy on things.

[quasi kettle]

A motherboard for 300$ sounds crazy to me

I look at the motherboards on many websites and the prices range from like 100-230$

you probably gotten scammed

[cold sorrel]

It didn’t cost that much back then.

I would never have spent 300 bucks on a motherboard. It’s probably only that ridiculous price on Amazon because it’s discontinued.

[obsidian wigeon]

ram is a pretty cheap upgrade

id probably consider it

[cold sorrel]

I think whoever thought I got scammed on the motherboard skimmed over where I said that list was from three years ago

[obsidian wigeon]

might be a good idea to mark all items as bought so people can't assume

[cold sorrel]

I did wish I could have gotten a better GPU but that was during the period where you had to take what GPU could get.

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah, the covid times

i remember

[cold sorrel]

It’s been a solid machine anyway. I’ll still wait on bro getting back to me with more specifics on what he wants and an actual budget. I can do better than some prebuilt, even if I may curse the manufacturer as I struggle with certain parts. (I seem to remember posting some interesting commentary here as I assembled my rig.)

[quasi kettle]

so you still using that rig

Or you using a different one

[cold sorrel]

Yeah, still using it. Only thing I’m considering doing to it is upgrading the memory.

is nervous

[quasi kettle]

power down your pc

Make sure you disconnect your pc from the power

and open up your pc

[obsidian wigeon]

I think they know that stuff already given that they built the pc

[quasi kettle]

and open those clips to remove the memory

and place your other memory in

[weary galleon]

Ram upgrade probably wouldn't do much for that system (for gaming at least, not sure what else you do)

[quasi kettle]

Probably ddr3

and she wants to upgrade to ddr4

or ddr5

[obsidian wigeon]

5600x is ddr4

[quasi kettle]

its her choice if she wanna upgrade it might cause compatibility issues

[obsidian wigeon]

it won't physically fit anything but ddr4 anyway tbh

in this context they're considering upgrading in capacity

[quasi kettle]

She probably got the max clock speeds of ddr4

[obsidian wigeon]

not to a newer standard

[mossy venture]

Are you ok

[quasi kettle]

????

[cyan ravine]

[analog hearth]

I’m on DDR3 I’m about to put DDRi7 7800X3D memory in my graphics power supply

[cold sorrel]

That advice seemed a bit odd.

I know a 5600x is no longer the newest shiny, but I didn’t think considering upping the amount of RAM would get a response of “not worth it”

[obsidian wigeon]

that guy's just tripping

32gb is a healthy amount of ram if you want to upgrade

[cold sorrel]

It’s not like Windows eats memory or anything…

[cyan ravine]

[obsidian wigeon]

i want 32gb but

[cyan ravine]

*Me with my 64gb *

[obsidian wigeon]

$100

ddr5 sodimm be expensive in thailand

[cyan ravine]

Ddr5 sodimms are expensive everywhere

[obsidian wigeon]

not even kits available

i have to buy individual sticks here

[cyan ravine]

Me too

Wait until you hear about how many times I paid 100 or more for a 16gb stick

[obsidian wigeon]

wth

[cyan ravine]

Bet you're not ready for this cos the answer is 2

See you next week for more uninvited facts

[cold sorrel]

So… I might be lucky in I’m stuck on DDR4 right now?

[cyan ravine]

Ddr4 is fine

[obsidian wigeon]

ddr5 at 32gb are like

70-100

depending on speed and rgb

[cyan ravine]

Ddr5 is obviously better, but I don't go overboard trying to force it into any new system

Ddr4 is still perfectly competent

In some cases still better than ddr5

My main push for ddr5 is it's very affordable, considering how much you could pay for a ddr4 kit new

But sometimes the budget is much more worth it diverting to something else

I wouldn't say you're missing out on anything if you want to stick to a ddr4 pc

32gb is still 32gb on both ddr4 and ddr5

[cold sorrel]

I can’t really justify a whole new system for myself.

[cyan ravine]

And that's just it

Things are fine without the fomo

Nothing wrong with a ddr4 system

[cold sorrel]

I’ve just kind of noticed a few times where things lagging because I was probably hitting the 16 GB RAM limit. I want to go back to dabbling with digital art and that would definitely benefit from extra memory available.

[cyan ravine]

Used ddr4 kit of 32gb or a kit like $55 vulcan 32gb is fine then

The only warning I'll give is don't add more ram

Leads to compatibility issues

You can buy the exact same kit years later and underneath it's entirely different

Even days later

[cold sorrel]

Oh, I was gonna swap kits entirely. But keep the old around as backup.

[cyan ravine]

You could if you wanted to

Or sell it to offset the cost

There's always people looking for ram

World's your oyster

But used 32gb I wouldn't drop more than like

$35?

Usd

Anything more than that for ddr4 is kinda a waste

Especially on a 5600x where, if you don't go doing rather extreme overclocking, the differences between a godly kit and a regular kit are quite small

Mostly* indistinguishable

New I'd stop at $60

Cos like, only some $20 more* you can get top of the line ddr5 basically

So anything that gets too close to that...you'd may as well just get the ddr5 and upgrade

At that point you would be going faster

[dusky hearth]

Smh living in the 1700s

[cyan ravine]

Lga1700s

[dusky hearth]

Real

[cyan ravine]

Swear you set me up for that

I'll never know til the day I die

[cold sorrel]

…I came to start doing research for my brother and have half talked myself into a RAM upgrade.

[cyan ravine]

343 when do we start the comedy duo standup gig

Lol

Give him the leftover ram if you can then

Justify it for yourself

[dusky hearth]

Lmao

[dusky hearth]

I definitely didn't just pick a random century

[obsidian wigeon]

Ram him with the ram

[cyan ravine]

Nah. This ain't 1151

[obsidian wigeon]

I mean, this ram 🐏

[dusky hearth]

😭

[cold sorrel]

He does not have a current system aside from an old laptop and an Xbox.

[cyan ravine]

Foxy this is a Christian Minecraft server

[obsidian wigeon]

Ram is an animal

[cyan ravine]

Wth

[obsidian wigeon]

smh

[dusky hearth]

Do not break my back

[cyan ravine]

Well you know it's going in no context

[obsidian wigeon]

Imma blow your back out in a sec

[dusky hearth]

(the spine is very fragile and a ram can break it)

[obsidian wigeon]

With dis 🐏

I'm a sus cuz I won tuf lappy

own

[cyan ravine]

Won?

Oh

[obsidian wigeon]

Not won gdi

[dusky hearth]

Another day of not catching a W

[obsidian wigeon]

If I won another laptop I'll sell it

Need that money

Not a typo this time

[cyan ravine]

Fr this man only catching O's and spelling mistakes

Or should I say Oh's

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[dusky hearth]

Cheer e o's

[cyan ravine]

No he doesn't own an electric car

It's just cheer o

[dusky hearth]

Mon chéri

[obsidian wigeon]

https://youtu.be/sXxbkjlHvf4?si=nslNKF4C_rLuspZO

[dusky hearth]

Rero

[obsidian wigeon]

all i think is this

[dusky hearth]

Orererererererererereo

Reooooooooooooooooooore

Orereo

[cyan ravine]

Rerererererere

[dusky hearth]

Oooooooooooooo

[cold sorrel]

blinks
stares at the madness

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-gif-27475997

https://tenor.com/view/plink-wide-cat-plink-cat-meow-gif-27396868

https://tenor.com/view/wide-cat-wider-gif-3879805434184283975

[cyan ravine]

L gif

Bottom one don't work

[dusky hearth]

Get a better pc

[cyan ravine]

This is what happens when several weirdos are years familiar with each other

It works now

HAH

Don't need to UPGRADE MY 4090 NOW

BI-

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

We're just weirdos

[dusky hearth]

It only took 3 days

[obsidian wigeon]

Biscuits?

[dusky hearth]

Can't even render a cat blinking smh

[cyan ravine]

Ok we probably should go back to helping

[obsidian wigeon]

lol ya

[dusky hearth]

Lmao

[cyan ravine]

@cold sorrel can you give me a budget of what your brother needs

What's it being used for

Any particular preferences

[cold sorrel]

He hasn’t given me a firm one yet. I think he’s a touch jealous of his buddies all getting new computers…

[cyan ravine]

Fair enough

[obsidian wigeon]

I wanna know budget

[cyan ravine]

The list can change almost entirely with the flip of $50 or $100

So the budget is important

[obsidian wigeon]

But Felix will beat me anyway with his lists

[cyan ravine]

Knowing what he's using it for helps too (It sounds like games)

[dusky hearth]

[cold sorrel]

Yeah, he wants to play the PC version of Rust because he’s tired of how far behind the console version is.

[obsidian wigeon]

rust ain't hard to run on

it just likes to hammer the cpu

[cyan ravine]

That is actually completely understandable

[obsidian wigeon]

but ^

[cyan ravine]

So I will say, it doesn't take a whole lot to make something that works really well, but a good vcache cpu helps enormously with rust specifically

[cold sorrel]

He did gripe he thought his friends spent too much, and given he name dropped NZXT that’s probably true.

[cyan ravine]

Nzxt is terrible value in my experience

Been this way for many years

[weary galleon]

Building one yourself will be wayyyy better value than zzxt

[cyan ravine]

Show him your sister powers can school his friends in the game of pc flexing 💪

[obsidian wigeon]

you can have a fairly competent gaming pc for 600 bucks if you really need to

but that's a fairly extreme example

[cyan ravine]

600 is extremely usable

[weary galleon]

I'd recommend a bit more if possible for rust

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[cold sorrel]

Well, it’ll probably be me that does the assembly. His patience is limited.

[dusky hearth]

[cyan ravine]

Man disappeared for like 3 minutes and came back with an emoji

[weary galleon]

My brothers rx6600 and 11400 build actually struggles a bit with rust, not sure if gpu or cpu is the bottleneck though

[obsidian wigeon]

from someone running 4050

600 bucks pc with 6600 is nice

[cyan ravine]

Likely cpu

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/dsmp-gif-27256181

[cyan ravine]

Rust LOVES cpu power

[obsidian wigeon]

if rust was rewritten in rust language well

[weary galleon]

Yeah 6600 is pretty good value, especially when it was cheaper a few months ago

[obsidian wigeon]

it would run so nicely lmao

[dusky hearth]

Real

Missed opportunity for rust to run on rust and be able to run on rust

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[cyan ravine]

Could get creative

Paint the pc like it's 'rusty'

Since you mentioned digital art...idk you might enjoy the idea

Lolol

Everything in that game is indeed rusty

[obsidian wigeon]

We keep getting sidetracked

[cyan ravine]

Except bananas

Not really now

We're missing a crucial piece of info

[dusky hearth]

Professional chat derailer

[cold sorrel]

I probably won’t get more answers until tonight since he’s working.

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-deja-vu-train-multi-track-drifting-toy-train-gif-15748585

[obsidian wigeon]

the train goes kansei dorifto with us

and eventually returns

[cyan ravine]

We'll still be around later, no stress

[dusky hearth]

What if we aren't around in 3 seconds

[cyan ravine]

Nah that won-

[obsidian wigeon]

Why 3 seconds

[cyan ravine]

Jfc I didn't expect all 3 of us to commit to that bit

That 3 minutes of silence felt like 4 hours

[cold sorrel]

…I’m sitting here wondering what the odds are he’ll want to use his big screen TV for a monitor.

[cyan ravine]

Depending on the kind of big screen we're talking, the pc will want probably a good amount of oomph for it

💀

[dusky hearth]

Me with my 1080p tv

[dusky hearth]

Lmao it just so happened that I had to leave the restaurant at that moment so I actually just disappeared

[cyan ravine]

In my head I thought you two would keep talking

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hedgehog-mrfresh-cat-feeder-mr-fresh-gif-6553553018433258079

[cyan ravine]

Then I thought "wth we're gonna freak out Talia like we're all incredibly in sync for this stupid bit"

[dusky hearth]

We're all the same person anyways