#building-and-recc-chat

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gleaming arrow
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my homie bought a whole new motherboard for that pc

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and its still doing the same thing

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???

flint sapphire
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Has your homie checked if the monitor is on the correct input

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Or tried plugging in a different one

gleaming arrow
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Yes 😭

flint sapphire
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They hear it boot into windows but there’s no image

gleaming arrow
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yeah

flint sapphire
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It’s a brand new motherboard… and gpu. It’s gotta be the display or connection between the pc and the display

gleaming arrow
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they tried TV's and other monitors as well as other cables and ports

flint sapphire
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Huh

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Does the cpu have integrated graphics?

gleaming arrow
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it was believed to have yes, and they tried those with similar results

flint sapphire
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Plugged in directly to motherboard disconnected the gpu

gleaming arrow
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yes

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deadass tried literally everything thats why they resorted to a whole new motherboard 😭

flint sapphire
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Yeah no your friend really messed something up somehow with magic

gleaming arrow
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he didn't even do nothing but try slightly bending back a bent hdmi port on the old gpu

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which works in his own rig so it's not the gpu

flint sapphire
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Welp the last thing is cpu, you should see the mobo splash screen like someone else was saying

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But they can hear it boot into windows…

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I’d say rebuild the system with the bare minimum stuff it would need to run. Mobo on a mobo box everything outside the case one ram stick display plugged into the motherboard

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Then add stuff till it breaks

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But that’s assuming it works at all

gleaming arrow
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odd ahh situation I have no idea

flint sapphire
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Yeah I mean like one thing at a time no boot drive just motherboard and cpu with a stick of ram

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It’s cpu related somehow or something was given a curse

gleaming arrow
flint sapphire
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I’m down to curses and dark magic

gleaming arrow
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ong, voodoo killed the pc

austere condor
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I need a walkthrough on how to set up a proper dual PC recording setup.

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fed up with my PC not being able to handle what i want to do

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got a bunch of like, really specific things i wanna do, and i cant find a guide / tutorial that explains what i want to make my setup do

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so like, apparently i need either the elgato 4k x or the 4k pro? iwant 4k 144hz passthrough but i dont care about recording at 4k.
and then i need to get a mixer board to plug my current mic into, that has a USB output and a Aux output, and have the USB output to my gaming PC, and the aux output going to my focusrite thing thats going to the streaming PC?
and then i need to do something network wise to connect the two PCs together so the gaming PC can see the storage drives im recording to in the recording/streaming PC

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what im trying to do:
I want to be able to play a game at 4k 144hz. I want to be able to record that footage at 1080p 60fps. I want to use the same mic for the gaming PC and recording PC.
I want to be able to edit footage on my gaming PC, thats saved on the recording PC

potent portal
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4k pro looks like it only does 4k120 passthrough. The Pro Mk.2 does 240 so you'd want that or the 4k X.

austere condor
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where does it say it does 4k 144hz passthrough?

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i mean 4k120 is fine too TBH

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i only have a 3090

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doesnt really do the full 144fps in anything

potent portal
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Elgato's site really sucks for specs, they're basically nonexistent, so I'm relying on other sites

austere condor
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yeah it does

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lol

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4k60 pro mk2?

potent portal
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Yep

austere condor
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link to the 3rd party sites that show the differences?

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i saw some video from whats his name, senpai gaming or something

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that had the 4k pro vs the 4k x

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but didnt have the 4k60 pro mk2

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iirc 4k60 pro mk2 is older than the 4k pro no?

potent portal
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Personally I'd get one of those ones with DP instead of HDMI so you don't need to compress it

austere condor
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i mean

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im fine with whatever

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if theres a different brand that has 4k 144hz passthrough

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im not stuck to elgato

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still HDMI tho

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$300 tho oof

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nothing is like, clear

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XD

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ok

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4k pro does 4k up to 240hz passthrough

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ok wow this is what i needed explained

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if im passing through 4k 144hz, it can max capture 1080p 144hz

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sick, exactly what i want

potent portal
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Why does it have to be so hard to find that info 😭

austere condor
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it cant take a 4k 144hz passthrough, and then record it at 4k60hz tho

austere condor
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lol

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every time ive looked into this ive found nothing

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first time i actually found the answer to my questions

potent portal
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Of course it was in a random youtube video, that's how it always is for some reason. Either that or Reddit.

austere condor
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hmmm

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now to decide what hardware to use

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lol

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ohhhhh

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interesting

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so the USB card lets you do 4k 144hz passthrough, while recording at 4k60

potent portal
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But only with the NV12 encoder

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So I think you need a GTX 1060 or better for that?

austere condor
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from what i understand NV12 is better than MJpeg?

potent portal
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Definitely

austere condor
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ok here

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this makes sense

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this seems better

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lemme see if my board has the USB ports to support it

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uhhh i think?

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ugh i hate how they changed the names of USB

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lol

potent portal
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What board is it? I'll check the specs

austere condor
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X570 aorus Master

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it has a bunch of USB 3.1 ports

potent portal
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Yeah but which 3.1 kekw

austere condor
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exactly

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lol

potent portal
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If you use the internal header for a front USB C port you can get a 10gbps port

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Back C is also 10gbps

austere condor
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ok ez

potent portal
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Red ports are 10

austere condor
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its just chillin on a shelf

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lol

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probably transpant into a different case

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idk, maybe not

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yeah would have to since i wanna move HDDs to it

potent portal
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Hang them from the ceiling

austere condor
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LOL

lone flame
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me reading this conversation

austere condor
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now the question is

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what GPU

austere condor
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be cheeky and put me A380 in it

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or just something basic liek a 3060/3060ti

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or if i could get away with a 2060/2060 super

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idk

potent portal
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A380 might work tbh

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Yeah the x264 encoder has NV12 and NV21

austere condor
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a380 would be more work to get

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since its already in a different PC

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thats running rn

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2060 super / 3060 / 3060ti

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3060ti could be used cause its an ugly dell model

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but like, its also a 3060ti which seems overkill

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2000 series still has the good encoder the same as 3000 right?

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i could just go all CPU since its a 5800x

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but idk

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throw in just a video adapter card

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eh, stick in the 3060ti since its an ugly card and i probably wont use it in a flip anyways cause of that

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Been holding onto this cool big bitfenix case to do a build in

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Time to use it

austere condor
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will figure out what PSU to use tomorrow, its late

lyric thistle
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run it on hopes and dreams

austere condor
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i mean i have a HX1200

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but id feel bad using that on a 3060ti PC

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šŸ’€

short yoke
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Just plug thr mobo straight into the outlet

austere condor
short yoke
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HX2400

austere condor
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Not pretty, but it gets the job done

languid nimbus
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meh I think it’s pretty lol

potent portal
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally like the stack of drive bays in the front.

leaden mauve
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not a lot of systems that have that aesthetic these days

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aesthetic of utility

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reminds me of my PC actually

short yoke
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Is that aesthetic or just ease of functionality

leaden mauve
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both

short yoke
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lol

limber oyster
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Bare bones motherboard

leaden mauve
limber oyster
leaden mauve
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yup ddr3 the best ram

leaden mauve
limber oyster
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lol

austere condor
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pretty far from barebones

manic cloak
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This any good?

potent portal
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For the price it couldn't be that bad. It's only $50 so... You get what you pay for.

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If you don't need too many advanced features or to access the interface often I'm sure it's fine.

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Keep in mind that WiFi 6 is just WiFi 5 with WPA3.
WiFi 6E is the one that's tri band and has 6GHz channels.

manic cloak
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I mean it would be better next to the setup than a wifi 6 router upstairs while your pc is in the basement right?

potent portal
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What do you mean? Like using this as a WiFi client device?

manic cloak
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I get bad connections most of the time

potent portal
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Oh, yeah shorter distance and less obstacles for the signal like walls and furniture is always better

limber oyster
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CPU heatsink and ram clearance

small tinsel
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potent portal
potent portal
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I see from before you edited your post that you have 3x 4k monitors and 2 PCs, so this would be the way I'd go, especially if it's above 60Hz since HDMI ones can't do that. https://www.store.level1techs.com/products/p/14-kvm-switch-triple-monitor-2computer-pne46-fxlmw

small tinsel
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Okay so they are the way to go. I couldn't find reviews anywhere on these darn things so I had no clue

potent portal
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It's a very niche field in general, but they do seem to legitimately care about their product quality from what I've seen

potent portal
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Bash on LTT if you like but they did do a deep dive on the KVM and why everything in that field kinda sucks, and how level1techs is trying to rectify that. https://youtu.be/akxU62laPMk?si=EjIWezlEQ8FouFqI

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deep spruce
potent portal
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Another $50 gets you the 7900 GRE, hang on I'll make a couple changes

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7800 XT is basically a 6800 XT with lower power draw and AV1

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The GRE is a nice upgrade over it

potent portal
deep spruce
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Looking at it now

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okit is saying he needs more power

dusky hearth
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like, the ltt backpack is cool, but mine already fits my needs, and has still been fine even after 5 years of use

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their screwdriver is also nice, but i dont think i would use it enough to be worth it

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and then youtuber merch clothing, i'm like, ehh, too expensive lmao

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90% of my wardrobe is like a walmart special

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like 10 cents for 100 shirts frfr

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so spending even just $20 on a single tshirt is insane to me

fossil cedar
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You can basically ignore warnings from power supply calculators

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The max that system will use is probably ~600w in total

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Or less ^

deep spruce
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Thank you

mossy venture
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Imo it's worth spending $5-10 more on ram

potent portal
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Besides, the X3D chips don't care that much

mossy venture
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Oh dope

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Mb

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The store on amazon has two ratings for that brand, is it known otherwise?

potent portal
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It's a chinesium brand but I've seen people overclock it to 7800

mossy venture
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Ah

small tinsel
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Wouuuld someone be able to tell me what my friend could sell this for? He is looking to update and needed help pricing this. ā¤ļø
4 years old.
R7 3950X, 2080 super, 64gb Trident Z Neo, Asus ROG X570 Seasonic 1000w PSU, Artic Freezer II 420mm, Be Quiet Dark Base Pro 900 Rev 2 (sleeved cables).

mossy venture
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Parted out likely more than as a whole build

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Cpu- 220-250
Gpu-225-250
Ram-70-115
Mobo-125-175?
Aio-65-100?
Psu-80-120?

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Rough estimates, but those would be my guesses

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And add some for case/storage if those are included as well

dusky hearth
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Probably 700usd for the full build

obsidian wolf
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So I’m messing with rgb now, and the question is the 3 pin argb connector can be multi connected between fans or you have to find a connection on the motherboard?

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For each fan

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More important the case comes with argb fans, and basically in daysy chaining everything to then connect it on the mobo, is that okay?

strong raft
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of course is why we have such a gif:

obsidian wigeon
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lmao

obsidian wolf
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3 hours later I saw it

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I manage to figure it out, it was more about the safety of it

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thought it would burn

dusky hearth
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Though there is a limit

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You don't want to daisy chain more than.... 3 devices iirc

obsidian wolf
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Which is the limit I think

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looks pretty fine, case, 3 fans and cooler

royal harness
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anyone have laptop suggestions with a 4070 and 1440p ips display?

mossy venture
royal harness
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gaming infrequently

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ill likely wait until the 5000 series comes around tho but just lookin for some good ones

austere condor
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@potent portal

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apperently that was a 3070

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but, its working

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i got the 4k x

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but...

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gotta get some cables

autumn wolf
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anyone have recommendations for thermal pads for a gpu? its for a yeston 3080

modern umbra
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Hey I just got this skytech asure 2 it has a RGB looking CPU fan block that I believe it's just a colored filmed with white LEDs but idk how to control it all the other lights control with the pre installed software, anyone know the fix?

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The cpu thermal take ig no branding or name mentioned on the box or site and the led button doesn't turn it off

weary galleon
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Integrated graphics in modern laptops are powerful enough for light Solidworks/similar tasks

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It's nice to have a lighter laptop if taking it to classes/studying

obsidian wigeon
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i guess a 4050 laptop?

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if you really want a gpu lol

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otherwise a thin laptop will do

weary galleon
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I'm in an engineering program rn and have been doing fine with my Ryzen 5825 chip; Vega 8 gpu I think?

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And then a desktop with a more powerful gpu for gaming/video editing, etc

obsidian wigeon
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that's actually vega 6

weary galleon
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Pretty sure it's 8

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Looks like 6 is on the 4000 and lower 5000 series mobile chips

obsidian wigeon
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oh ya

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i got it confused for a min

limber oyster
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What's some thermal pad brands for GPU usage

limber oyster
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I know what sizes I need, but looking for a good brand

royal harness
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i’m in between keeping my pc and going with a cheaper laptop or just going with a nicer laptop altogether

plucky timber
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I ditched my desktop for practical reasons

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International students and large desktops don't mix

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Laptops have gotten a lot better as workstations in recent years

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And regarding the screen size

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Consider an external monitor

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a lot of gaming laptops have smaller displays

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and there's not much benefit of going past 1080p due to the smaller size of those displays

little osprey
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Pretty good, thanks.

crimson zinc
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You’re welcome

plucky timber
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Test

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Ok i think my discord is bugged

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There's a gap in messages from 9:24PM to 1:49AM

dusky hearth
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lmao

torn mesa
mossy venture
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Gonna do one cheaper in a sec

mossy venture
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Let me grab some options

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Sorry for long links I'm on mobile and don't feel like dealing with it

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Solid pc with a good bit of budget left for a laptop, can swap gpu as you want between 7800xt, 4070 super, 7900 gre, 7900xt, etc. Other cheaper options too, if you want to go cheaper.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hy32wg

serene onyx
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Hey guys im trying to build my lil brother a pc and my budget is 600$

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This is what i have so far

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can i do better?

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i just want a build or something he can potentially upgrade in the near future

obsidian wigeon
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this could use a lot of adjustments

serene onyx
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yeah its a bit outdated

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could you help me?

obsidian wigeon
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Do dis

serene onyx
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Oh yeah this looks so much better

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thank you

mossy venture
serene onyx
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thank yall

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Can yall maybe give me a cpu upgrade recommendation or gpu for the future

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im not really good with understanding cpus

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im sure i can get the gpu tho

royal harness
serene onyx
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@obsidian wigeon do you think i will benefit by switching the cpu to a Ryzen 5 5500 and going with 16 gigs ram

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or stick with what i got

obsidian wigeon
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5500 has identical perf to 3600

mossy venture
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Ehh

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It pulls ahead typically

obsidian wigeon
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not worth the extra money id say

mossy venture
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If you value upgradability, I would try to spend some more

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Or buy cpu or gpu used

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Then can throw a 5700x3d and basically any gpu that is out or will come out that is similar to a 7900xtx or 4080

serene onyx
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Oh damn ok

mossy venture
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Bit more gpu clearance, could be useful down the line

serene onyx
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Yeah i was thinking about that too

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I was gonna upgrade my cpu cooler and reuse my current tower one

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The asrock mobo u used has wifi right?

obsidian wigeon
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nah

serene onyx
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It doesnt?

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the am4 one?

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Oh nvm

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it does

mossy venture
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Yeah

serene onyx
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Thanks

serene onyx
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Ok this is the finalized list

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We rocking with it?

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Im gonna start purchasing the parts tomorrow

mossy venture
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not sure how that mobos vrms are in terms of supporting a 5700x3d

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but it should be fine

serene onyx
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alright

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if the worst happens ill just buy a new mobo with the upgrade in the future

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Thank yall for the help

mossy venture
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what games will be played on it btw?

serene onyx
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i know my brother will play r6, fortnite, and cod on it for sure

mossy venture
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alr

serene onyx
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yeah

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he doesnt really play demanding titles

mossy venture
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ok so

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these would be better for upgradability

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since am5 will have new gens of cpus on it

little osprey
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"A penny for your thoughts."

serene onyx
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Should i get the 6600 or the 6650 XT?

mossy venture
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well if youre gonnd do a gpu too, id spend $20 more for the 7600 if you can

serene onyx
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ur right

mossy venture
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but these cpus both have an igpu

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you can add a gpu down the line

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8500g though has a more capable gpu

serene onyx
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Yeah

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hm

mossy venture
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so better graphics for now, worse cpu, but with intention to upgrade imo the better choice

serene onyx
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so i should just get the 7600 Now?

mossy venture
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8500g

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better graphics, somewhere between 1050 ti and 1650

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it would likely struggle with cod honestly

serene onyx
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Wait are we talking gpu or cpu

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the 8500g is the cpu right?

obsidian wigeon
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yeah

serene onyx
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oh alright

obsidian wigeon
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i don't like cut down cpus but

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am5 has upgrades

mossy venture
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both cpus have an integrated gpu

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8500g is a worse cpu, but far better gpu

serene onyx
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Ohhhhhh

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Makes sense

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hm

obsidian wigeon
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would rather pay for 7600

serene onyx
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So do i get the 7600 now with the build?

obsidian wigeon
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but then again

mossy venture
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7600 would struggle with most games if youre not buying a gpu rn

obsidian wigeon
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this is 600 we're speaking of

mossy venture
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the igpu on it is weak

serene onyx
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Oh nv,

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yeah

obsidian wigeon
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makes sense to have the igpu

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no, the faster igpu

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since both have igpus

mossy venture
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or just go for the 3600 with the solid gpu, it would give better gaming perf now and does still have upgradability, just less so

serene onyx
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alrighty

mossy venture
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its mostly just personal preference

serene onyx
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so do i just stick w the 6650 instead of the 6600 XT

mossy venture
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either is fine

serene onyx
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Alrighty

mossy venture
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theyre similar, 6600 is a noticeable drop

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non xt

serene onyx
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Yeah i heard about that

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But i wasnt sure

modern quiver
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hey

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i do not know if this is the place to ask

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but i want to know if $280 bucks is an okay price for an Arc 770 (16gb)

obsidian wigeon
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Could be lower iirc

modern quiver
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cheapest one at newegg

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is $280

obsidian wigeon
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That's fine then

potent portal
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That's about the lowest the A770 has ever been

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Typically ones below the trend line are major sales or amazon scammers

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It dipped at black friday last time for a major sale for example

lone flame
# potent portal

is ARC reliable in terms of the driver department and all that? i havent really looked much into them or intel in general

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I know its a first gen product and had a rocky launch for sure

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their sparkle aib cards look really cool

weary galleon
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They're a LOT better than at launch, Intel has really been working on drivers

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Last I looked, they're pretty solid in most games, but every once in a while you'll run into something that doesn't play as well

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And that was a couple months ago I think, so probably have improved since then

cyan ravine
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Think by the time battlemage drops we might be at that "Oh it's like RDNA 2" point

obsidian wigeon
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ya

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I start considering putting arc in people's builds

limber oyster
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My GPU is gonna suck to remove later today

little osprey
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Hello, i do like 45% premiere and like 35% gaming, other stuff 20%, what would be the best cpu for my case?

analog hearth
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Basically anything modern with at least 8 cores

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Like as low-end as a 12700K (should be found at a decent price and actually has more than 8 cores)

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Somebody is about to roast me and say "no that's too old" and suggest something better though

limber oyster
analog hearth
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That's what my brother is using and he hasn't had issues with it

limber oyster
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About to swap to a 5900x that I have collecting dust

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Used to use a i7 8700k @5.2GHz

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Didn't have any issues besides lack of NVMe slots

analog hearth
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Oh yeah swap in that 5900X

limber oyster
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Lol

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Gotta take this out today

serene onyx
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Is this bundle worth it?

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It’s cheaper than buying the mobo and power supply separately, but idk if this psu is good

potent portal
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PSU is a bomb

serene onyx
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I think I’m gonna get this bundle instead of the psu and mobo separately

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So don’t get the bundle

potent portal
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Unless you like fire, don't buy it

serene onyx
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Ok bet

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Making sure

short yoke
small tinsel
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How much would yall sell this build for at 3 years old?
ROG Corsair VII Hero
Ryzen 5 7th gen 3200
Msi Mech Radeon Rx 5700 Graphics Card
Darkflash cpu cooler 240mm
2X8 1600 poly Ram (OR 2x16 Corsair 3200)
HD60 elgato Capture Card
Darkflash Phantom case

mossy venture
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Ryzen 5 7th gen 3200

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What

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Also I assume that means ryzen 7 5000 series? 5700x, 5800x, or 5800x3d?

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I'd say like 700-950 depending on the buyer

small tinsel
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LOL my bad I didnt realize my friend sent it like that. šŸ˜‚

mossy venture
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You're good

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Are you looking for the most value to get out of it by selling it

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Or what a fair market value is

small tinsel
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fair market I would say

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He is selling it to a mutual friend and getting an upgrade

mossy venture
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Mobo parted out would sell for more, but value as a whole build I'd say like 120-130
Cpu, idk what it is, but 150-220 depending on which ryzen 7 5000 series it is (if that is what it is)

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2x16 ram, 45

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2x8, half that

#

Gpu, 120-160

#

Capture card idfk

#

Cooler and case together like 80?

#

Add some for psu and storage if those are included

small tinsel
#

Got it thank you!

mossy venture
#

I'd say selling to a friend, 600-675 would be nice, but idk how good of a friend they are lmao

#

675-750 would be a better market price (?)

wild peak
#

Just ordered my first ever pc part: a white 4070 super, wish me luck on my build!

mossy venture
#

W

limber oyster
#

Amazon failed. They sent two packages, one had my 3mm thermal pads and my thermal paste, one bag was supposed to have my 1mm thermal pads. The bag with the 1mm pads was empty ...nothing in it

brittle tinsel
#

maybe someone will be able to help. Im trying to help a friend reinstall windows onto his new M.2 that will be taking the slot of his old M.2, he does not have any sort of USB available to him at the moment. Is there any way to work around this? he also has a hard drive

mossy venture
#

I read through that quickly, but pretty sure nvme enclosure is what you need

stoic island
#

There's a way to use the hard drive as an installation media too if that's what you want

weary galleon
#

Can put the nvme in a working systems extra nvne slot too

brittle tinsel
stoic island
#

It will entail reformatting the drive and therefore getting rid of all the data on the drive but something like this, using an internal hard drive should be the same as external, its just making the drive bootable with the windows installation media
https://www.trishtech.com/2018/12/how-to-install-windows-10-from-an-external-hard-drive/

TrishTech.com

Learn how to install Windows 10 using an external hard drive as the bootable installation media.

brittle tinsel
#

thats fine, he wants to start fresh anyway. Will he be able to reformat the drive back to normal for data storage?

brittle tinsel
#

Its already got the windows 10 media on it.

stoic island
#

I think the uefi?

potent portal
#

Always boot UEFI and disable CSM unless you're installing on an ancient machine, like pre W7 ancient.

serene onyx
#

Hear me out

#

is this a pretty good build?

mossy venture
#

It's solid but there's a few things I'd change

serene onyx
#

what should i change

mossy venture
#

Mostly minor changes, one sec

serene onyx
#

alright

mossy venture
#

It's all very minor differences, if you like yours more go for it

#

Only thing I'd say def swap is the ram

serene onyx
#

alrighty

#

ill do that

#

any recs?

mossy venture
serene onyx
#

Oh ok

#

bet

mossy venture
#

Ssd is also a pretty nice step up for $4

serene onyx
#

Bet, ill check it out too

potent portal
#

That case name sounds like someone threw darts at a keyword sheet.
toss XT!
toss PRO!
toss ULTRA!

serene onyx
#

LMAO

#

no cause fr tho

#

i thought it was a wacky name too

potent portal
#

If I had to guess the real reason it might have to do with search engine manipulation

serene onyx
#

probably

potent portal
#

Hey, what's up

lone flame
#

but is my nickname in this server technically correct

potent portal
#

KXTX?

#

If that exists it's one I haven't heard of

lone flame
#

i saw someone do that for their 6900XT in their username and thought itd be funny lol

potent portal
#

It wouldn't be technically correct still because you're missing the Navi 21 part

#

And you're also missing the XT

potent portal
#

So the full name would be 6950 XT Navi 21 KXTX

mossy venture
#

All their other lines kinda make sense

lone flame
small tinsel
#

If you were to put together a $1600 build. What would it be? No focus on looks, just making the best build you can.

obsidian wigeon
potent portal
#

And also what resolution, if gaming

#

Odds are that would be a 1440p high refresh or 4k with upscaling, so maybe a 7800X3D + 7900XTX or 4080 super

obsidian wigeon
#

1.5k for 7900 gre build

regal blade
#

Guys

obsidian wigeon
#

xtx makes it a 1.8k build

regal blade
#

Mechanical keyboard and 32gb cl36 ram

#

Or

#

Membrane keyboard and 32gb cl30 ram

obsidian wigeon
#

I'd cope with a worse keeb

#

But get better gaming performance

regal blade
#

That’s what I think but everyone saying get mech keeb cl36 is enough

obsidian wigeon
#

Don't listen to them

#

Honestly it's better to have smoother gaming experience

#

Instead of focusing on peripherals

potent portal
#

cas latency doesn't matter on ddr5 if I'm being honest, subtimings matter way more

obsidian wigeon
potent portal
#

5 minutes tuning and you can get way more out of either kit

obsidian wigeon
#

Why cl30, assuming it's 6000 is it has A die

#

The known good die within ddr5 space

regal blade
#

This is my build

#

That I’m gonna build

potent portal
potent portal
#

Other than that looks ok to me. Not my first choice of case but it'll do.

regal blade
#

???

#

Good?

potent portal
#

I was just checking that memory, it has an EXPO profile for 6000c30 so yes it will be good

regal blade
#

Better than the Corsair one

#

?

potent portal
#

Yes, plus you get rgb

regal blade
#

Good

#

And another bonus it’s cheaper

warm rain
#

can someone help me 2 years ago my mother bought me a pc with a 5500 and a 1650 but it came with an 850w psu so i have plenty of room to upgrade. but now that i want to upgrade i dont know wich component to buy, i was thinking of an am5 build but i would have to change mobo cpu and ram but thats more than 450 euros and i dont have them rn, i tought of a 5800x so i dont have to change all of my pc at once but then i would have no room for future upgrades. anyone got any tips ?

obsidian wigeon
cyan ravine
#

Also

#

Has anyone called you gianu reeves before

warm rain
cyan ravine
#

Today you are newegg's new adopted son

#

Gianu reeves

cyan ravine
# warm rain mb i meant 750 xd

More serious note, we really need to know the psu full name so we can say with proper recommendation what you could upgrade to

#

C750 bronze or gold

#

Bronze is still ok but gold is very good

warm rain
#

give me a min

#

i need to look it up

cyan ravine
#

No worries

warm rain
#

its gold

cyan ravine
#

Ok so you could really put a top end system with that if you picked the parts smart

#

And not cram too much rgb in

#

What motherboard do you have

#

It's am4 but which

warm rain
#

a520m hdv

cyan ravine
#

Heh

#

That's good for a 65W cpu but not anything higher

#

5700x max

#

Without touching pbo or overclocking

#

So not really a whole lot of life in that board tbh

warm rain
#

yeah i think i need to upgrade

#

but idk if i should go with am4 or am5

cyan ravine
#

Ok so 5500 imo is actually a really capable cpu

#

Before you jump down the am5 rabbit hole

#

What's your meaning for upgrading

#

What do you feel like is lacking

#

If you could put it into a couple words

warm rain
#

it lags a bit on games and it gets up to 70% easily even when i dont have any game open

cyan ravine
#

Which does

#

What games are we talking about here

warm rain
cyan ravine
#

Ok so pretty light games for cpu

#

What settings and fps do you normally aim for

warm rain
#

i play on 1080p and it depends on which game

cyan ravine
#

What would you say is ideal

#

Realistically

warm rain
#

anything above 60 ngl

cyan ravine
#

Ok sounds about where I'd peg a 1650

#

Last question before we start talking budget

#

What monitor do you use

warm rain
#

1080p 144hz

cyan ravine
#

Ok, what country is this in, what's your total budget, do you have an aesthetic preference

#

And lastly, do you play on an ssd

warm rain
#

i really dont care about aesthetics and i use a 2tb ssd

cyan ravine
#

Ok, country and budget

warm rain
#

italy but im not sure what to upgrade rn

cyan ravine
#

Italy, we have someone who I think can give more direct advice

cyan ravine
#

@olive cypress

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Dis man's looking for some buying advice

#

Italy

olive cypress
#

Mhmh just a second

cyan ravine
#

Something to that effect is probably achievable for 400 euro

#

And should play pretty well

#

Worry about AM5 later, you'll be playing maxed out 1080p 144hz anyway

warm rain
#

aight ill look at prices

cyan ravine
#

5500 is very competent, it's a better 3600, and should be fine up to about a 3080-ish tier

warm rain
#

thanks you really helped

cyan ravine
#

Np

#

Later on, consider AM5

#

Cpu is not really the bottleneck atm

olive cypress
#

Other than Amazon, not many other websites offer good prices unless it's used stuff

#

Here in it

cyan ravine
#

Noted

#

I don't really know myself so any insight is good

#

I don't get enough people from Italy asking lol

olive cypress
#

Bpm power is a good online shop for pc components, sometimes you find the same prices Amazon offers, other times if it is oos on Amazon or just a bad price you could check this one too

#
  • looking for newer components you won't find anything really used...
cyan ravine
#

@warm rain One other thing, make it a completely separate 32gb kit, don't add more ram to make 32gb

#

Time and time again we get people that run into ram issues like corrupted windows, stuttering, bad stability

#

Sell what ram you have in there to offset the cost

warm rain
cyan ravine
#

Fair enough, just checking

#

If 6700xt seems a bit high, 6650xt, 6600xt, 7600, all considerable

#

Used 2060 super

warm rain
#

btw i was looking at gpu prices and theres a 6650xt at 240 euros from swift and it seems odd bc other 6650xt are sold for 330+

cyan ravine
#

If you can find used for a decent price

#

Mmm always check if it's a scam

#

Often too good to be true if it's unusually cheap

#

Things like reviews and a lot of them can tell a good story about a place

#

Idk who swift is/are but if they're a proper store it could just be a good sale

#

6650xt would do pretty much anything 1080p at high fps

warm rain
#

i checked the reviews and it dosent look like a scam a lot of people bought it and say it works

cyan ravine
#

Like quite a few?

#

Over a dozen

warm rain
#

over 300 xd

#

its rated 4.6

cyan ravine
#

Is this amazon

warm rain
cyan ravine
#

Ah, click on the seller profile

#

See what that profile says

#

Usually if it's a scam account they'll have a load of bad reviews or no reviews at all and be a new account

#

On the other hand a load of good reviews and it'll be solid

olive cypress
cyan ravine
#

Ye

warm rain
#

never heard of

olive cypress
#

240 is ok for 6650xts

cyan ravine
#

Xfx is a good brand

warm rain
#

oh ok then

cyan ravine
#

We both have xfx lol

warm rain
#

xd

#

thanks man

obsidian wigeon
#

Why you haven't heard xfx is probably cause they only make radeon cards

#

They used to have nvidia gpus too, but got tired of nvidia's bs

olive cypress
#

Xfx is ok, one of the few good brands that make amd gpus

warm rain
olive cypress
#

Have one (6950), really good build quality and cooling, really loud at higher rpms

obsidian wigeon
#

Fair nuff

cyan ravine
#

Yeah that's xfx's only real catch usually

#

Built well

#

Just noisy

#

Arguably some of the best cards you can buy tho from amd

#

Would give the crown to sapphire

#

Or asrock's ocf line

lone flame
olive cypress
#

Yes

lone flame
olive cypress
#

Is there also a white version?

cyan ravine
lone flame
cyan ravine
#

And here's the weird part

#

They only have like

#

10 stock of this card

olive cypress
#

Ooh sorry
Yep, I forgot that it was about the oc model

lone flame
cyan ravine
#

Nooo

#

Merc310 white XTX

#

It's gorgeous

lone flame
#

Send it again

#

I just woke up I’m on my phone

cyan ravine
#

I think they sold out hold on

#

I used to like the white taichi more until I saw it in person

#

This card is RARE

lone flame
#

Why is the xfx logo blue tho

cyan ravine
#

Cos they can't use the usual white logo

#

The logo lights up

lone flame
#

Any reason they don’t do main stream white cards like everyone else

cyan ravine
#

Not a clue

#

When you think about it, they aren't the only ones

#

Look at EVGA

#

Brain can't remember other brands

#

Palit?

#

Inno3d

#

Nope they have white cards

#

Idk

#

Guess evga are their only similar counterpart

earnest olive
#

nvidia doesn't make white cards

#

xd

cyan ravine
#

TRUE

#

AMD REFERENCE

lean anchor
#

Anyone willing to give some input on a build I'm working on?

stoic island
#

Yea

lean anchor
#

So it says no compatability issues, but I'm wondering if I need anything else or if I may have gone a bit overboard on a few things...

stoic island
#

Any specific reasoning for any of the parts? And what are you going to use it for?

lean anchor
#

A combination of things, I do a lot of modeling and sculpting, which involves rendering things from time to time, but also gaming.

stoic island
#

Would you say you spend more time on modeling than gaming? And any software in particular?

lean anchor
#

The most intensive software imaginable.... Maya haha, jokes aside, it's about 50/50

#

Usually it has me running Substance painter and Maya simultaneously.

#

Both of those are relatively CPU intensive. The GPU just because I want a newer card.

mossy venture
#

Do you care for rgb?

#

Other options for case would be king 95, sky two, h6 flow, nv5

#

All far cheaper and better value

stoic island
fossil cedar
#

or go 7950x?

stoic island
#

yea

#

I thought there was a cheaper version of the hyte y70 but I'm not seeing it

lean anchor
# fossil cedar or go 7950x?

The only issue with this is the extra 150 for a not much better cpu, with that said I am going for a white look, and I am open to suggestions on anything really.

#

Tbh I had originally gone in on a Radeon GPU, but a friend advised the 4080

stoic island
#

Monitor wise, would you be open towards just going ultrawide or do you just want to have 2 of the same monitors?

cyan ravine
#

Would stray away from 14900K until intel addresses the degradation scandal rn

lean anchor
#

I want uniformity

stoic island
#

or is that an Intel issue

cyan ravine
#

13th and 14th gen both degrade at stock doing simple stress tests

stoic island
#

interesting

cyan ravine
#

It's just the late trend has brought it out of these chips in a game

stoic island
#

I saw some reports of various crashes in games and blame being put on the games

cyan ravine
lean anchor
#

I am sticking to Amd for multiprocessing purposes.

cyan ravine
#

You can do an hour of cinebench multicore and you'll have degraded a 14900K noticeably

stoic island
#

oh great

cyan ravine
#

13900K isn't a whole lot better

#

But it's not as far on the needle limit so it's at least wiser

#

13900KS/14900K/14900KS

#

Wouldn't suggest atm

stoic island
#

Guess the question now is 7900x3d, 7950x, or 7950x3d

cyan ravine
#

7950x3d imo is really good provided you don't get a bad chip or agesa revision

#

Which isn't super likely

stoic island
#

Fits in the budget, prob might as well

cyan ravine
#

You get the chops of a 7950x (almost)
The gaming perf of a 7800x3d (almost)
And it all works on a dual tower

stoic island
cyan ravine
#

Even still

stoic island
#

Still great

cyan ravine
#

It kind of is a jack of all trades

#

My only advice owning one is keep process lasso handy

#

You may get the occasional game or program that's just ass without manual scheduling

#

But this is also true for Intel's side so meh

#

Whole reason APO is a thing is it's basically process lasso but in reverse

stoic island
#

anyways I wonder if adding a pcie 5.0 drive would be funny, there's a 2tb m570 for 200$, but I don't think maya is disk intensive

cyan ravine
#

Maya

#

Wait lemme double check

#

I think that might be radeon favoured

stoic island
#

is it? thought it was nvidia favored

#

I was trying to find if puget systems had benchmarks for it but I couldn't find it

#

wait

cyan ravine
#

No it's radeon favoured

stoic island
#

its servethehome

cyan ravine
#

Look in notebookcheck

stoic island
#

looks nvidia favored to me

cyan ravine
#

Older versions have similar gaps

#

$600+ for 2-6% šŸ’€

stoic island
#

hmm

cyan ravine
#

Look specviewperf13

#

2%

lean anchor
#

It really is a masochist's dream

cyan ravine
#

Think the difference is that rdna3 has a huge degree of architecture change

#

So it's a lot more on par

stoic island
cyan ravine
#

Nah rdna 3 had this big jump for workstation in a lot of stuff

#

Like it's unironically better for encode than nvidia for example

#

It just lacks the same degree of support

stoic island
#

oh wait I found it

#

lemme see if I can get 4080 super on there

cyan ravine
#

What's the date of that tho

stoic island
lean anchor
#

Also Maya-06...

cyan ravine
#

That's a big change in the space of a year

lean anchor
#

Are we talking about the same Maya?

cyan ravine
#

Lol

cyan ravine
#

No?

stoic island
lean anchor
#

Currently we are on Maya 2024

#

Ah

#

Then in that case that would be the more friendly version of Maya

#

Before all the um... love?

stoic island
#

anyways I didn't realize how much better xtx was at workstation now

cyan ravine
#

The notebookcheck review is march 7th 2024

stoic island
#

the 4080 super review was january

#

lemme see if I can get anything more recent

cyan ravine
#

Yeah rdna 3 is actually great for workstation provided it has the support

#

March 7th is pretty recent lol

#

Either way it's noticeably better value in both scenarios

#

There will be test variance

stoic island
#

yea

#

still better than 4080 super

cyan ravine
#

Quite a bit better

#

Between 4090 and 4080S

stoic island
#

yea

cyan ravine
#

Odd that notebookcheck didn't do maya for specviewperf2020

#

Only the earlier ones lol

stoic island
#

lol

cyan ravine
#

So really the question then is @lean anchor is it specifically maya or are there other things

stoic island
#

oh wait

#

its a different benchmark

cyan ravine
stoic island
#

maya 05 and maya 06 are close enough anyways, both built off maya 2017

cyan ravine
#

Rdna 3 is good but it's not omnipotent or widespread like nvidia is

cyan ravine
#

Ok so blender

#

In that case go nvidia

#

Night and day difference

#

You can use zluda with blender but it's not really a genuine means, and unknown if support lasts

#

So XTX can still hold it's own, but optix is just a different ballpark for nvidia

#

Amd doesn't really have a genuine answer just yet

stoic island
#

substance painter and PS shouldn't care as much about GPU, so xtx is probably the general best option

cyan ravine
#

Both work just fine tbh

#

But in blender specifically even the new gen amd is like, half of what nvidia can do

#

Intel all the same

#

Optix is just too good

stoic island
#

saves 100$ I think, but 4080 super isn't a bad option if you think you'll use something that utilizes that more

lean anchor
#

Last i saw it was still 1200 something

cyan ravine
#

@stoic island any idea if core reactor ii is any good

stoic island
#

there's a second one now? lemme see if there's any info

cyan ravine
#

It's 130mm

#

First psu that comes to mind is that fsp atx 3.0 one

#

Hydro ptm x 3.0

#

Different plug layout tho, mightn't be the same

#

Ohp aris has a review

#

Brb

#

It's good @stoic island

#

As good as rmx

#

@lean anchor what do you think of the above list, can confirm the psu is fine

stoic island
#

specs for the core reactor ii looks like a slight upgrade from core reactor

#

slightly better caps and mosfets

#

yea didn't see the hwbusters review, looks good

cyan ravine
#

Pretty solid for a white unit

#

105$

#

Can strip a lot out of that list if we ignore the white colourway tho

#

About, 200 worth

#

220-ish

lean anchor
#

Hmm, sorry for delayed responses, Im at work.

cyan ravine
#

All good, have a look at the two lists

#

One's a white, showoff style

#

Other is a black, no compromise

#

Good $200 difference if it matters to you

#

The case in the second one was at one point called the lian li 205m afaik and sold as a micro center exclusive

#

So it's a good enough case for lian li if you were curious lol

#

Both lists are pretty overkill tho

stoic island
#

idk if its dell site being weird but for some reason the GPU 1030$ on dell when listed as 995$ on pcpp lol

cyan ravine
#

Could be a coupon maybe

#

In stock on newegg for 999

stoic island
#

seems slightly different

#

if you look at the edge

cyan ravine
#

Sama has like 10 billion clones of everything

stoic island
#

lol

cyan ravine
#

30 different brands in 80 different regions

#

They're the most whack micromanagement situation I've ever seen

#

Lol

#

But it's a sama clone, the lian li

stoic island
#

this being rounded off looked weird to me lol

cyan ravine
#

Yes they will have slight variations

#

Sometimes a panel change

stoic island
#

yea idk the dynamics with these case manufacturers

cyan ravine
#

They all take from Sama Quzao out of CN and use the same base design

#

(sama as we know them worldwide)

#

I learned a lot about cases in the last month lol

#

It's a good matx tho

stoic island
#

fun

cyan ravine
#

Yeah man I scanned like half of aliexpress looking for a certain case size

#

Lol

stoic island
#

All I remember was metalicgear neo air being phanteks

cyan ravine
#

Neo air?

#

Oh magniumgear?

stoic island
#

metalic? magnium? something like that

cyan ravine
#

Lolol

#

Yeah I think I know the one

#

Looks like a fractal torrent but wood

#

(fake wood but anyway)

stoic island
#

oh fractal north?

cyan ravine
#

Not quite

#

Hold up I'll get a pic

#

Version 2 lol

#

V1 definitely does remind me of older phanteks

#

Or like

#

Cougar

stoic island
#

did cougar rebrand or something? haven't seen anything new from them in a while

#

anyways I was thinking about this lol

cyan ravine
#

Cougar always does like the cheap weird stuff imo lol

stoic island
cyan ravine
#

I have a phone holder that goes in a car (I'd never use it like this) with rgb and looks like a transfomer

#

Thanks to cougar

stoic island
#

lol

stoic island
#

oh yea did we figure out the monitor situation for vanguard

#

maybe time for a uw

cyan ravine
#

Idk what monitor he'd like

#

Since it's colour based work probably an inexpensive oled imo

#

Aw3423df maybe

#

Or ktc/aoc 1440p 240hz

stoic island
cyan ravine
#

Not a clue tbh

stoic island
fossil cedar
#

no clue but msi have a good track record with monitors ime

cyan ravine
#

Ye it's not cheap ik lol

#

Tho tbf, having colour correct work is probably as valuable as the pc itself

stoic island
#

yea fair

cyan ravine
#

Probably worth dropping to like a 7900x3d or 7900xt/4070ti if it means it fits

lean anchor
#

I do prefer the white build tbh

cyan ravine
#

Np

#

I see it as acceptable since it's less than 10% on aesthetics really

#

And it's 4080S tier so 200 won't bring a huge amount more

#

Tho an oled starts at 650-ish

#

So whether that's still in budget is an important question

lean anchor
#

Honestly that free's up a bit more for monitors

#

My budget was around 3500 with 3 monitors.

cyan ravine
#

Oh so you'd fit an oled then

#

Second one is 650 with prime

#

And has a kvm which is excellent for multi tasking if you have like a laptop or second pc

#

Both use LG displays so it's the same as buying from lg themselves

#

Then you could get some random secondary 27"

#

And use that for multitasking

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As long as that 2nd one is 1440p it'll be pretty solid

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Fair warning, while great, the first gen qd oled's have a purple tinting on their screen

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So this 2nd option you'd need to remember that while working

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But it makes a good widescreen

stoic island
lean anchor
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I can purchase that, but would prefer a multimonitor setup

cyan ravine
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Imo the best overall is the ktc

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Use that with a dummy secondary

stoic island
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You can mix and match, it makes more sense to get one great panel for most of your work, and have other cheaper secondary panels for whatever else

cyan ravine
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Ye

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The secondary would be for the etc multitasking

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The oled for all colour correction work

lean anchor
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Hmmm

stoic island
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(doesn't make sense to buy 3x $800 panels when you just need 1 to have the color accuracy for most of the work, and any 100$ secondary panel can display whatever else)

cyan ravine
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Especially when you can't really dual or triple screen game at this level anyway

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Have to be a much older game, or use nvsurround then run like 1080p triple

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So consistency would really only be for a slight aesthetic difference, when you can just find a monitor with a similar bezel and resolution for cheap

stoic island
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time to get one of those 6dof rigs and mount 3 monitors lol

cyan ravine
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Lol

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I've seen those ark 55" triple setups

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Insane

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It's like walking into a sphere of pixels