building-and-recc-chat

[reef moss]

The one I bought was 65

[crimson zinc]

https://www.amazon.com/Montech-AIR-903-MAX-Pre-installed/dp/B0C98SZCSG?th=1&psc=1

Just Amazon prices there

[reef moss]

What's the max b and max w difference?

[crimson zinc]

Black and white.

For some reason it costs $15 to make it white

[reef moss]

LMAO

Ima put the max on cart

[crimson zinc]

If you like good looking cases

This is a cheap case at the moment with a rebate at Newegg. Really high quality case. @cyan ravine actually showed me this a while ago

[reef moss]

Is this a better ssd for me to upgrade to?

[crimson zinc]

If you can ever find this in stock, this is probably the best case for just about anything.

[reef moss]

Do they have it in black?

WD_BLACK 2TB SN850X NVMe Internal Gaming SSD Solid State Drive - Gen4 PCIe, M.2 2280, Up to 7,300 MB/s - WDS200T2X0E https://a.co/d/5JRm7Z2

[reef moss]

Also this^

[crimson zinc]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811854119

[crimson zinc]

I’m not an expert on ssds yet, so ask fal about that

[potent portal]

White tax™️

[reef moss]

Oh fallllll

[crimson zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/cloudy-with-a-chance-of-meatballs-enough-to-make-a-grown-man-cry-police-officer-make-a-man-cry-gif-15227532

[potent portal]

Everything costs more when it's white

[reef moss]

Need better ssd to upgrade to

Or.... want

[potent portal]

WD is good as far as quality but not so good for value

[reef moss]

Reccomendations?

[potent portal]

You were in the US?

[reef moss]

Yeah

[potent portal]

one sec

[reef moss]

I have a teamgroup 1tb create rn

[crimson zinc]

This is my recommendation

[reef moss]

How fast is that one?

[mossy venture]

Grab mp44l or gm7000 for 2tb

[reef moss]

Baccaaa

[crimson zinc]

^ that

[reef moss]

I built what you helped me with by the way!

I changed the cpu and motherboard but kept the rest

[mossy venture]

Nice

[reef moss]

Added to cart (gm7000)

[potent portal]

If you want something top tier, comparable to the SN850X, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09F5W62N8

Yeah that GM7000 is excellent

[reef moss]

I'll buy it next week

I play so much modded Mc

And I plan on starting to steam just chatting and some big games

[potent portal]

This is the kind of drive we would typically recommend for someone that's doing 8k video editing and needs to scrub at 10x speed real time

[reef moss]

Good looks

So its more than enough for editing a 3hr stream for clips lmao

[potent portal]

Definitely

[reef moss]

Any reccomendations for good mouse / keyboard combos? I like fast quite keys

[south cliff]

mouse is kinda preference

[potent portal]

Keyboard I'd recommend building, mouse is 100% personal preference

[reef moss]

Oh really?

[south cliff]

you can make a good one for like 100 something dollars

[reef moss]

And you can build a keyboard? What??

[south cliff]

a really good sounding one

yeah im no expert but ive seen some videos they are simple like builiing a lego

[reef moss]

That's crazy

[south cliff]

if you built your pc you can build a keyboard

[potent portal]

Yeah you can get a barebones kit that you can hotswap keys (meaning you don't need to solder) and throw some speed silvers or something on there with your keycap of choice

[south cliff]

yeah lookup some videos of diffrent switches to see what ou like

[reef moss]

I'll have to give into this on YouTube before I feel confident doing a build lol

[south cliff]

you should be able to its not really hard

[potent portal]

If you do hotswap it's really easy. Put a dab of lube, place it in the slot, put keycap on

[south cliff]

yeah

[reef moss]

Easy pz

Thank you again gang

[potent portal]

What kind of mouse do you prefer? I'm more of a heavy mouse with a claw grip myself, so the G502 hero is perfect for me

[reef moss]

I was scrually just looking at one of those at mijers earlier

I like heavier claw grips

[south cliff]

I use G402 I like having all the house buttons

[reef moss]

But I have a cheap razer right now

[south cliff]

Mouse

G pro super light is very overrated imo

[reef moss]

I think I have razer death adder or something

Thought about a g603 logitech

[mossy venture]

Kone pro is cheap and good, but yeah it's personal preference

For quality level of a custom keeb, keychron

Not quite as good, but still great

[elder arch]

can anyone send me a pc build thats around 400-600 dollars?

[potent portal]

Gaming? Just the PC or anything else included?

[dusky hearth]

they said gaming

idk if they wanted peripherals with that budget as well though

i would assume so since their budget is that low lmao

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9DGxQP

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WHdxQP

[honest knot]

that rx 7600 build lookin real good

[mossy venture]

5500 meh

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2YyVTY

Similar

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-rx6600-cld-8g/p/N82E16814930066R?Item=N82E16814930066R&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-930-066R-_-03102024

Could also grab that

[manic cloak]

Uhhh I need some help

I can’t tell if it’s coil whine or my fans

[potent portal]

You can tell by turning fans up and down manually to see if the noise changes

[manic cloak]

True

I’m gonna uh stress test first

But could you send me that software again for the fan stuff.. never got to it lol

[potent portal]

Fan Control?

[manic cloak]

Oh

Ya I don’t have dan controls cause I got armory crate..

[potent portal]

https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases/releases/download/V181/FanControl_181__8_0_Installer.exe

Make sure you have .net 8.0 installed

[manic cloak]

I have V181

[manic cloak]

@potent portal So right now fancontrol only identifies my cpu fan as fan 2 and my case fans at fan 4

there are no separates, no fan 1, 3, or 5

Also if I do uninstall Armory crate what should I install to subsitiute for it?

Cause it seems like I need to uninstall it for my fancontrol to work, and i'll need a rgb changer for the fans

[potent portal]

Openrgb

And if your fans are only occupying 2 headers on the board then that would make sense, which often happens if you have daisy chain fans or a hub

[manic cloak]

Ya because my 205 case had a fan hub I believe with just one wired all together in just one slot, then my cpu is connected to the board.

so should I just uninstall armory crate?

[potent portal]

Then you can consider them as fan groups instead of individuals

I'd uninstall it, Asus likes to spy on you and steal some of your precious CPU cycles

It's not the worst program, but there's better

It could be worse, you could have iCue

[manic cloak]

hmm and does openrgb work for the asus motherboard lighting too? if you know

[potent portal]

100%

As long as your chipset drivers are installed

[manic cloak]

should be lol

[potent portal]

It's the program that's the closest to being able to unify every brand of RGB control into one interface

Even keyboard/mouse

[manic cloak]

alright

@potent portal Sorry for ping but the fancontrol can't identify my gpu fans..

[potent portal]

Can't identify or can't control?

If there's a rpm reading but it's giving some error, something is interfering like afterburner

[manic cloak]

Ehh i'll try to find it but I can't get control of my case or gpu fans.

Cpu is detected

[potent portal]

If it can't read the rpm even then it might need a plugin

[manic cloak]

Ya i'm gonna try the automatic detector once morre

see what happens

[potent portal]

Is the header the case fans are on set to pwm mode?

[manic cloak]

pwm?

where would I find that

[potent portal]

Bios

[manic cloak]

agh.

Definitely not

[potent portal]

Then that would make it unable to control anything on the hub due to how hubs work

[manic cloak]

Alright well time to visit bios :)

[potent portal]

Most of the time the CPU will default to pwm and others dc

[manic cloak]

What about my gpu fan though?

[potent portal]

What model? I'll check for a plugin if you can't find anything interfering

[manic cloak]

7800xt sapphire pulse

Oh

Well

Looks like deleting armory crate identifies my case fans

[potent portal]

Yeah that interferes too

[manic cloak]

Only issue is the fans don't stop spinning when set to 0

for case

so definitely a bios trip

[potent portal]

Yeah if they're not accepting the commands right then you should change the mode

[manic cloak]

They accept commands like 100% fan speed n etc, but when put to like 0-5%, they don't listen

so in asus bios where would I go?

[potent portal]

Not too familiar with Asus bios, but it's usually system monitor or whatever menu you set fan curves

[manic cloak]

alright..

gonna go there then

anything with the gpu though?

[potent portal]

Not in bios

[manic cloak]

Hm

[potent portal]

Think of the GPU as a separate computer inside your computer

The bios can't control it, only identify it

The GPU has its own bios, and you use the drivers to communicate with that

[manic cloak]

Mhm, mb for not specifying but i mean like anything with the gpu though? Plugins or perhaps not supported?

Ag

Ah*

[potent portal]

Oh, we'll check for other interfering programs when you get back to Windows

I'm not at my PC yet

[manic cloak]

Alright I got to bios

I found monitor

And it gives me a choice of monitor or ignore fan speed

[strong raft]

Cpu Fan is generally the only 1 set to ignore, mainly for certain aios that don't have an actual fan cable go to cpu_fan

[manic cloak]

I have a air cooler

No AIO 😭

Change anything?

Well I set all to PWM mode, refuses to stop.

The cpu doesn’t even do it

[strong raft]

I have cpu fan stop enabled and mine don't, idk why.

[cyan ravine]

probably the fan type

[manic cloak]

probably

anywho

what should I have my fan speeds at?

[cyan ravine]

some don't have 0 rpm enable

[manic cloak]

for CPU fans likely, 0-60C at 50%, 65C at 75%, 70C at 85%, 80C at 100%

[cyan ravine]

if you like that curve then use it ye

it's all a preference thing

e.g mine

[manic cloak]

i'd like my parts not to overheat is all 😭

[cyan ravine]

my peak temps are 77C so I set the max fan just below that

and my idle is about 50-ish so I keep the fans low for that

[manic cloak]

i've seen my cpu peak alot

I think the hottest was 98C

[cyan ravine]

it's a 13600k

they do that

[manic cloak]

mhm

[cyan ravine]

it'll erupt in a ball of heat with the slightest workload

miniature dwarf star

[manic cloak]

😭

[cyan ravine]

it's something you do case-by-case for best results

there's no cheat sheet for this

just open up like, occt stress test, do avx2 small steady extreme all cores

cpu test

adjust accordingly

similarly for gpu

run a gpu test

adjust to your preference

there's no one shoe fits all scenario

[manic cloak]

I don't think I have a cpu stress test aside from spymark

[cyan ravine]

go download occt then

[manic cloak]

@cyan ravine how do I uh.. check the data?

[cyan ravine]

?

[manic cloak]

I figured it out nvm

Was looking for temps

[royal delta]

Unsuccessful…

[covert vapor]

I feel like this is too much bend for the aio. Thoughts?

[potent portal]

As long as the tube isn't kinked it's fine

[proven salmon]

Hay I have a friend that just finished his build but when he tries to exit bios by pressing f10 to start his window setup it just keeps on going back to the bios. Is there another option to exit bios?

[little osprey]

Does anyone know the best monitor for esports gaming in the $400 range? Cannot be more than $420

looking for like 400 hz

or some thing

[potent portal]

Either of these would do https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/rVVmP6,RGdG3C/

They're quite similar overall (the asus in this comparison is the 360hz model, but the same otherwise) https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/acer-nitro-xv252q-fbmiiprx-vs-asus-rog-swift-360hz-pg259qn/26161/17390?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

[manic cloak]

When I tab out of games like CS, or even minecraft, fort, etc, the whole computer gets REALLY slow

and it might fix itself or I have to restartr

[potent portal]

That's usually drivers, sometimes the GPU itself

[manic cloak]

ah

[potent portal]

If you press win+alt+B it resets the video drivers, but if you have a game running it might crash

[mossy venture]

Playing windowed full screen has worked for me, but not all games support it

[muted shore]

are there cpu drivers that need to be installed?

r7 5700x

[obsidian wigeon]

no

[fossil cedar]

No but there are motherboard chipset drivers

Go to amds site and there's an auto driver thing which will grab them for you

[maiden mauve]

I have an old Antec 900 ATX mid tower ( https://www.newegg.com/p/11-129-021?item=11-129-021&Tpk=11-129-021 ) that I'm wanting to use on a new build, NewEgg customer service has verified the motherboard ( https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-z790-a-gaming-wifi-ii/p/N82E16813119663?Item=N82E16813119663 ) and cpu ( https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-14700k-core-i7-14th-gen/p/N82E16819118466?Item=N82E16819118466 ) will fit but they were uncertain of the liquid cooler I had picked out ( https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-liquid-cooling-system-lt720/p/N82E16835856234?Item=N82E16835856234 ). I know this is a stretch because there probably aren't a lot of people still using this case, but would anyone have an idea if I would have clearance issues? I do have a fan installed in the door of the case. I was planning on using a 4070 super as well ( https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-4070-super-zt-d40720h-10m/p/N82E16814500573?Item=N82E16814500573 ). It may not be worth re-using the case, it's been a great one. Thanks...

[mossy venture]

That would not support a 360mm aio

What are you using the pc for?

If you're gaming, I wouldn't get the 14700k, it's poor value

14600k, 7600x, or 7800x3d would be better choices, and that mobo is really overpriced

[maiden mauve]

Thanks, I just tossed a few things in the cart, I mostly game (WOT Blitz mainly). I may be better off buying a pre-built system. I'm still running an old Asus Rampage III MB with an i7 950 3.07 and a GeForce GTX750., so it's been awhile since I've upgraded or built anything.

[mossy venture]

What's your budget to upgrade?

Also, what monitor are you on?

[maiden mauve]

1500-2k budget and I currently have a Samsung UE510 28"

[mossy venture]

The mp33 is free with the cpu on newegg
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2K2Yz6

And you could get a case upgrade for $50 if you'd like

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zJWJ7P/phanteks-xt-pro-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-xt523p1-bk01

Could spend more if you'd like to, but that'll get what you need done and then some

I would recommend a monitor upgrade though, I included one in the list

The monitor you have is 4k, but its a TN panel, which has poor image quality

[maiden mauve]

thanks for your time, I guess I hate to toss something like the 900 when it's been a hell of a case...heck, I'm still using a Logitech G15 because I can't stand to part with it 😄 . Yes, I knew my monitor had some restrictions.

[proven salmon]

Hay I have a friend that just finished his build but when he tries to exit bios by pressing f10 to start his window setup it just keeps on going back to the bios. Is there another option to exit bios?

[stoic island]

First, is windows installed?

[proven salmon]

Don’t think so

[stoic island]

Then you need to install windows first, if the usb with windows installation media is already plugged in, you might need to check the boot order to make sure it tries to boot to the windows usb first.

[proven salmon]

Alr thx

[proven salmon]

The windows usb is in the first boot option but it still doesn’t work

[hearty cairn]

Hey guys, I’m currently in the market to build a new PC, and this will be the first PC that I build on my own.

I have a list of parts that I think I want, but I would appreciate your feedback on anything I might be missing, other than the CPU thermal compound. I believe I need a fan splitter/hub and would welcome your recommendations. If you notice anything else that I’m missing, please let me know. Thank you very much. https://newegg.io/61cc1e5

[stoic island]

On the USB end, can you double check that the USB is formatted to fat32? On the computer end, is there anything that shows up before it goes back to bios?

[stoic island]

Well, to start, everything is on the overpriced end, are there any reasons for each of those choices or would you be fine with swapping out most of the parts for cheaper versions that practically functions the same?

[proven salmon]

There was one time it showed a yellow text but didn’t get a chance to read it

I’ll tell him to double check the format thing

Checked and yes it’s in fat32

[manic cloak]

@potent portal still happening.

[cursive wharf]

I assume you DDU'd but did you also attempt OS fix?
Set RAM to lowest common JEDEC in BIOS (DDR5 4800MT/s or DDR4 2133MT/s). In admin CMD run CHKDSK /scan, if it finds "offline based" errors then run CHKDSK /f (requires restart), then no matter what CHKDSK says run SFC /scannow && DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth && DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth && DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth && SFC /scannow.

[little osprey]

Can someone here help me put a PC build together? My budget is $1600

[mossy venture]

what're you using it for? do you need wifi? Is this just for the pc, or does the budget includ anything like monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc?

also im assuming the US, but if not what country?

(sorry for so many questions)

do you care about aesthetics at all, or just functionality

oh last question, is size an issue, or doesn't matter

[little osprey]

I'm using it for gaming mainly. Yes, I will need WiFi since I don't live next to my router. While the majority of the budget should go towards the PC itself, I also will need a cheap (but quality) mouse/keyboard combo instead of a basic office mouse and keyboard. My country is the US. I do like the look of RGB but if it saves money it might not matter to me all that much. I like ATX-sized cases.

[mossy venture]

cool, give me 2 min

[cyan ravine]

this will be like

7800x3d

4070 super /7900xt

[mossy venture]

first option, $5 over budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BhpMdH

[cyan ravine]

2tb good gen 4

[mossy venture]

the ssd is free with the cpu

can swap gpu as wanted between 4070 super/ti, or 7800xt, 7900 gre, or 7900xt.

[cyan ravine]

yeah I can see the other option here

7900XT +7800X3D

but change the keeb and mouse doe

[little osprey]

Kid you not before knowing NOTHING about PC's I was literally about to spend all my hard earned dineros on the Alienware Aurora R16 💀

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yrg4vj

same gpu options

[mossy venture]

keeb i knew nothing about, whats wrong with the mouse?

i had a good experience with it

[cyan ravine]

can you verify the switch that's in it

and a good review

if not pick deathadder essential

[mossy venture]

ill defer to you on this

[obsidian wigeon]

kone pro is a pretty good mouse, seen reviews

[cyan ravine]

I have no idea about kone pro personally

but the keyboard 100% can change

[little osprey]

BTW this it what I had been cooking with initally but I'm pretty sure its garbage teir: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zbgQ9c @mossy venture

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/roccat/kone-pro

pretty good rtings scores

[cyan ravine]

more than enough to say it's worth having there

but the keey def change

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[cyan ravine]

steelseries keebs are an L

[mossy venture]

happy bday foxy!

[obsidian wigeon]

thanks

you're one day late but ye

[little osprey]

Bacca how would you rate the build I had initally?

[crimson zinc]

Remind me in 3 months and 22 days to wish you one

[mossy venture]

to be completely honest

like 2/10

[little osprey]

Is it the AIO?

[crimson zinc]

It’s everything

[little osprey]

How about compared to the Alienware Aurora R16

[crimson zinc]

Mb is unnecessary, aio isn’t needed, etc etc

[little osprey]

How about THEn?

[mossy venture]

ram, aio, psu, case, ssd,

[cyan ravine]

lol if we just say everything you're gonna break this man lol

[mossy venture]

better

[little osprey]

See it is good

[mossy venture]

the list is

[crimson zinc]

Just let some of these guys build you something

[obsidian wigeon]

alienware is pretty poor

[crimson zinc]

They’re much better

[crimson zinc]

I can attest, had an Alienware 14 and it ran like garbage, even when it came out almost a decade ago

[obsidian wigeon]

if an alien had to use an alienware, humanity would end

[crimson zinc]

Literally

They’re so bad compared to everything

[cyan ravine]

@little osprey my take:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fFDT9c

[obsidian wigeon]

idk why but that sama case here is sold under the name of

[cyan ravine]

I need to check on switches though

[obsidian wigeon]

Sama IM THE ONE

[cyan ravine]

it has like 30 names

[obsidian wigeon]

it's screaming to be bought

[cyan ravine]

lol

[little osprey]

Can I switch to NVIDIA GPU? I really want to mess around with RTX

Unless it's ovverrated

[crimson zinc]

That case looks more boring every time I see it

I mean, it works perfectly fine
But it’s bland lmao

[cyan ravine]

you could do 4070 super

[crimson zinc]

Overrated

But ^

Why not 4080 super? @cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

that's about as much as I'd recommend from the NV side

[obsidian wigeon]

And xtx has decent rt

[crimson zinc]

Oh budget

[obsidian wigeon]

4080 super is extra money

[cyan ravine]

4080 super still kinda meh compared to a 700$ 7900xt

[obsidian wigeon]

but yeah

budget

[little osprey]

Could I get a case that has tempered glass panels? I want to be able to see the inside of it

[crimson zinc]

G360a is $49

[obsidian wigeon]

then one from bacca

[cyan ravine]

@mossy venture how many fans does xt pro ship with

nvm it's one

meh

[crimson zinc]

4

Pro ultra**

[obsidian wigeon]

4 for rgb ver

kek

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cbMrfy

oh wait the mobo hold on

[crimson zinc]

https://www.phanteks.com/XT-Pro.html

[obsidian wigeon]

mobo and cooler

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pzDT9c

[cyan ravine]

single tower is more than fine

[obsidian wigeon]

id honestly get that new spirit evo cooler

cuz noctua fan

20 bucks isn't it

[cyan ravine]

over budget if I do

[crimson zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/noctua-fan-noctuafan-gif-24134135

Looks so hypnotic

[mossy venture]

ye sadly

but still a nice case for $50

[cyan ravine]

I'm gonna go scan for a better keyboard cos I know this isn't the 100% choice

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/khJp99/thermalright-assassin-spirit-120-evo-dark-704-cfm-cpu-cooler-as120-evo-dark-d6-de

dis

[proven salmon]

Just finished building my pc apart from windows what else do I need? I have an Rx 6600, a ryzen 5 5600 and the pro b550m vc WiFi motherboard

[obsidian wigeon]

drivers

chipset, gpu, wifi, all that stuff

[proven salmon]

Is that for the motherboard?

[cyan ravine]

meh fan

[obsidian wigeon]

aw ok

[cyan ravine]

ye

[proven salmon]

Alr thx

[obsidian wigeon]

but it looks great

tho you're already over budget lol

so understandable

[cyan ravine]

@little osprey what kind of keyboard do you like

like

what do you want the perfect keyboard to feel like

sound like

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7KwKgB

if you wanted to try nvidia

I put a pretty good keyboard in there, kailh box white is supposed to feel nice but it's a clicky keyboard

[inland parrot]

Hey, I have an issue, I turn on my pc, it will run then for some time then turn off, then back on again. The CPU and DRam lights are switching back and forth, I tried to use a different ram and it will do the same thing again

[obsidian wigeon]

Check for loose connectors

There could be a short

[cyan ravine]

made it better

[obsidian wigeon]

Gotta know about the pc's specs too, especially the psu

[cyan ravine]

forgot about the ssd

lol

[little osprey]

Sorry i was gone for a bit

Let me check

I like it!

What about this: "Warning: The MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor with BIOS version 7D77v16. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, updating the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU."

[cyan ravine]

iirc the board has flash

yeah it has a bios flash button so that won't be an issue

[little osprey]

Would you say micro ATX is better if I'm worried about making sure i have enough space?

[cyan ravine]

it's a generic popup from pcpartpicker that they don't address

[cyan ravine]

it's more about maximising your budget

mATX is very powerful in the AMD space particularly

unless you have a specific need for more pcie slots that you should be well aware of by now, you won't need ATX

[little osprey]

Well TBH I don't really know that much about PC's yet, so I will take your word for it.

I just want a good gaming experience

[cyan ravine]

the main reasons for ATX died in the last few years

it was practically dead, now it really is dead

unless you do specific things like movie production on a large scale

machine learning and ai

etc

for gaming though, it's long lost it's purpose really

[rain carbon]

theres so much to learn its not even funny

[little osprey]

I'm going to be going to trade school this year to learn computer engineering

[cyan ravine]

oooo ok

[little osprey]

I want to have my own business where I make people PC's one day

[rain carbon]

not to mention certain big companys COUGH COUGH intel go out of their way to make it more annoying as well with parts

[cyan ravine]

that changes my perspective a bit

is that a degree or scholarship

[little osprey]

It's a certificate

[cyan ravine]

cert

ok

so what I wrote will be useful for that

[rain carbon]

i didnt even know you could learn comp engineering at trade tbh

[little osprey]

I'm planning on getting A+ certified

[cyan ravine]

go with the 4070 super one

the last one I posted

if we wanted to be extra careful with any software requirements....

one sec

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zdy3kJ

I bumped the ram up to 64gb

should make an excellent engineering system

might be overkill for a certificate though

[little osprey]

I'm really excited about this experience

[cyan ravine]

it should be more than enough for a lot of things

great thing about 7800x3d is it's still a good workhorse

albeit a gaming cpu

you can fit a larger ssd if you wanted to swap to 7700 instead of 7800x3d for example, and the system will be a little quieter

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bjmJHG

I'd pin that to your own preference though

it'll be a little slower in games but not much

any further questions lmk, I'll be around later

[crimson zinc]

@austere condor send that pc to me, I’ll give you $100
Except all in $5 bills

except I have actual questions about your business, pls dm if you’re okay with that

[inland parrot]

I check there are no loose connections

Let me try to change the motherboard power cable to see if that will work

[molten rune]

Apologies about the phone video but obviously I can't record the screen itself internally to show the burnout

[molten rune]

Any familiarity with (likely AMD driver/) Monitor weirdness?

It's like a section of the monitor is getting pixel burnout but it goes away on restart / occasionally comes back

that shadowing across the wing is not a difference in lighting

at least not in my room

and i'm 99% sure it's software related because i've seen it do it on multiple monitors

[weary galleon]

If it goes away on restart it's probably gpu related

[molten rune]

it seemingly randomly does this on startup

sometimes yes sometimes no, diceroll of which monitor, usually the corner ones

[weary galleon]

Oh yeah if it happens of multiple monitors probably gpu

?DDU

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[molten rune]

if anything i think it's Adrenalin (AMD's graphic suites)
something about it when i do driver updates brings the issue back

then i dont update it for a while and forget what the issue /fix was in the first place

but after installing new drivers for tekken 8, it's back

[weary galleon]

Try ddu for a full wipe and reinstall of drivers and see if that helps

[molten rune]

trying to describe it into google is also no help either because "darkened portion of screen" just gets me dead pixel results

[weary galleon]

Could try "shaded" or "dimmed"

also add "-dead"

[molten rune]

best guess i've seen so far is this but

i guess mine is off

[manic cloak]

I haven't tried to DDU yet, but i'll try this

But are you 100% certain I should try this before anyhing else?

Also my ram can go as low as 800 if you’d like, but I’ll set to 2133.

So @cursive wharf I hit no corruption on the first SFC and DISM CheckHealth but had a “component store is repairable” on DISM ScanHealth, DISM RestoreHealth is stuck on 62.3% which I don’t know if I should be concerned about lmfao

Oh nvm, it said restore operation was completed. Running SFC.

[little osprey]

what is a good montitor that at least has 1440p and 165hz average with the best budget possible.....I'm preferebly looking for a curved monitor. I saw this, thought I'd get some opinions on it. Anything other options would be appreciated. Currently running an RTX4070/5800x3D
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4P2KB9K/ref=twister_B0CXJLW875?_encoding=UTF8

[bitter mason]

ngl, I'm definitely not the person to ask about monitors, but just wait a little while & I'm sure you'll get a much better answer than I can offer you

[mossy venture]

The main issue with curved is that it's either VA or cheap IPS, so you'll have worse panel quality than a flat monitor

If you're still set on curved, I can take a look

[little osprey]

see what you can do

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9F9wrH/msi-g273cq-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-curved-monitor-g273cq

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6PfxFT/asus-rog-strix-xg27aqv-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-curved-monitor-xg27aqv

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dt92FT/dell-s3222dgm-315-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-s3222dgm

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/r3jBD3/gigabyte-g34wqc-a-340-3440x1440-144-hz-curved-monitor-g34wqc-a-sa

[little osprey]

okok

not bad

That gigabyte one 144hz tho

I liked the size however

so with those compared to what I sent. What would be the difference

[little osprey]

And I'm just now hearing about this, but IPS and VA

Not sure what they are, I'ma do research to get a better understanding, but from the looks of it, if I'm looking for a curved monitor, then there's no question that VA may be the only option

[obsidian wigeon]

VA is panel type

[little osprey]

Yea I know that

They both are tho, right?

[obsidian wigeon]

IPS also another type of display, ya

[little osprey]

I'm guessing if I'm strictly looking for a curved monitor then VA is the way to go

May not be the best, but it's my only option

If I'm not mistaken of course

From what I'm seeing the IPS curved monitors are basically flat

[cyan ravine]

Ye try DDU as to what steve said. The fact it goes away is likely to be gpu related, try also a different display plug on the gpu itself too

[vital magnet]

i got a VA monitor and works great. People say there are “black spots” and things like that but there’s really no difference. I’ve had many different monitors and my VA is the best one i’ve had

[analog hearth]

Try this HTML file that I just wrote. If you can, compare the test with different panel types

I whipped this file up real quick for educational purposes lol (it's nothing dangerous. I promise. It's strictly just HTML and CSS)

The text should look a lot less detailed and a lot blurrier on VA panels (unless you somehow have a really good VA panel). This isn't very noticeable on IPS panels

[lyric thistle]

huh

surprisingly I notice no blur

[analog hearth]

I'm also not on a VA panel, so I couldn't test it

I kinda just whipped up this file and just hoped that it would work lol

[lyric thistle]

lol

[jagged ember]

I don't think I have VA panels to test this either

[lyric thistle]

I have ips on my left I think and va on my right

no noticeable difference

[analog hearth]

My brother has a VA panel but I don't want to invade his room

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-spying-binoculars-observe-look-gif-5325326

[jagged ember]

When are we getting folding monitors from samsung

Just an enormous Z Fold

[lyric thistle]

just keep unfolding your z flod

[analog hearth]

flod

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-monkie-kid-lmk-lego-monkie-kid-lmk-sun-wukong-gif-1210611030954871045

[crimson zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/angai313-folding-gif-20015031

[red oasis]

I bought a zotac 4080 a 12vhpwr connector that require 3 pcie cables and a 850w
psu from corsair and only have 2 pcie 8 pin to 2x8 pin and 3 cpu cables 8 pin
cables.
I need 3 pcie cable to go my gpu. What do I do? Can I use the CPU cable since it
looks the same?

These are the remaining ones

[vital magnet]

Don’t have a IPS panel with me unfortunately but i’ve used both. Had an IPS before I got my current monitor with a VA panel and prefer my VA

[potent portal]

Use the daisy chain connectors on your PCIe connectors. Corsair cables are plenty good enough to do so.

The CPU connectors have a different pin out and would cause a short circuit if you forced them in

[potent portal]

Cheap IPS can absolutely be worse than good VA.

[vital magnet]

Understandable, my old IPS was about the same price as my current VA. Same resolution and size but i like my current one better

[potent portal]

IPS generally costs more than VA so you're comparing lower end to good effectively

[vital magnet]

really just depends on brand honestly. You can get an LG 2560x1440 IPS for $300. I’ve never spent over $400 on a monitor so i’m not sure how they compare at price ranges higher than that

[mossy venture]

You can get good quality 1440p IPS for $200-220

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W6QKHx/msi-g272qpf-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-g272qpf

[vital magnet]

but i’m not a big tech guy, im just going off little research i’ve done prior to buying a product and experience based. As long as i have a monitor with good quality im happy 😂

[mossy venture]

This would be cheap ips
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4xWJ7P/gigabyte-gs27q-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-gs27q

[red oasis]

Thanks. I did it but my pc refuses to post. Everything is lighting up but nothing show on my monitor

[strong raft]

If using displayport, remove it and use the hdmi cable then restart pc w/ monitor already on. I wouldn't be surprised if you also had a gap in a power cable somewhere anyways. Common thing w/ newbies. No offense. For instance on the gpu itself:

[little osprey]

is there a 360 hz monitor thats good? and cheap? 200$ ish?

[potent portal]

Not anywhere near $200, cheapest is $350. (the $230 one on amazon is suspiciously low so probably a scam, that's normally a $600 monitor)

[potent portal]

How long did you wait for it to boot? First POST can take 5-10 minutes to train the memory.
What do the debug LEDs say? There's usually 4 near the big 24 pin cable, and they indicate what part of the POST it's stuck on.

[little osprey]

what about a 260hz

[potent portal]

You can get this one direct from Dell for $200, it's 280Hz
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-25-gaming-monitor-g2524h/apd/210-bhyc/monitors-monitor-accessories?cjdata=MXxOfDB8WXww&tfcid=39138382&cjevent=bdabd7f8e17011ee82b5007e0a1cb82b&dgc=CJ&publisherid=2993279&publisher=&aff=PCPartPicker%2C+LLC&affid=2993279&aff_webid=3938566&aff_user_id=&gacd=9684992-28463632-5750457-345576786-177846717&dgc=af&VEN1=13502820-3938566--PCPartPicker, LLC&dclid=CKaY9-798YQDFcivOgUdVGkNOg

[little osprey]

is dell a good brand for gaming?

[mossy venture]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266148050757?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=IZv0H-iASTG&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[potent portal]

They've got good ones

[mossy venture]

Also a good option, though 1080p at 27"

[little osprey]

got one one for 1080p, 260hz around $220?

Looking for something with good quality

0.5 ms or lower

stuff like that

[potent portal]

Don't bother with rated response times, it's all marketing. They use unrealistic situations at unusable overdrive modes.

fwiw the dell is 0.5ms marketed

[little osprey]

and is that dell with internal speakers?

Just need one with that

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VG279QM-Compatible-DisplayHDR-DisplayPort/dp/B0845QFDVM/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1KCYRT9MHBMRH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.i88DidwuXds2ZwM4j6JmeNJ9EeWBN8wuv0B1MMdi1QjP6cnwHUNmNZGqPsd10MiRG3sfdsE6j-DbQcPmroRnj0xeLvy3jRx3xBx0YFo56YcUOGxLcOm3Y-FqOB07IFNzMM-izZKXrpW3uD0m046X6bEbGyT8gPUAZzR53cQaoiqdt5ZN6e9o5bzH8SXRr-ddEL0EifZMt7MBfntqDFvgu0yFTzoXYDgJfv1R0Jz4bcN_c7XR2b4aKv5u_4xkq4hNyIaEpnfzLzaBxbohEQuQKWlH-qU3_BNbsM1f8D7p6sA.jq5m7pfz9MNhaFjGBulFL2hlvSJI4ynz33MorPW3SHM&dib_tag=se&keywords=280hz&qid=1710358808&s=electronics&sprefix=280hz%2Celectronics%2C156&sr=1-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.c3015c4a-46bb-44b9-81a4-dc28e6d374b3

Thoughts on this?

$199 like new

[potent portal]

No speakers on the dell

[potent portal]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/vg279qm

[little osprey]

You think I should get it for $199?

[potent portal]

Seller seems ok to me, could be worth it

[mossy venture]

That seller is sus

Oh

25% 1 star reviews for 70% overall rating is interesting

[potent portal]

Florida based business with 888 ratings in a year is sus?

[mossy venture]

Seems like they consistently mix up models

[potent portal]

Most of those 1 stars complain about shipping

Up to you if you want to take the chance

[little osprey]

might never ship 💀

[mossy venture]

From what I'm reading they just send the wrong or a cheaper model

Very often

[potent portal]

At least it's not an obvious scam

[mossy venture]

Maybe not on purpose, but

[little osprey]

am not tryna do all dat

Damn

[mossy venture]

Is it better than this one?

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-ships-blush-when-your-ships-come-true-gif-16065847

[mossy venture]

I mean there's also this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rMXV3C/acer-vg272u-w2-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhv2aa201

But iirc the panel quality isn't the best

[cyan ravine]

271u isn't the best

272u is good

[inland parrot]

i found the problem now, it was the ram slots form the motherboard

[crimson zinc]

@cyan ravine @mossy venture @potent portal I have a task for each of you
I need help from you guys to make a few Etsy options.
Specifically; beginner pc, beefy beginner, mid-level, mid-high level, high end, ultra high end.

I need help with a build list for each of those. No peripherals will be included. Costs ranging from $600 on the low end(1080 style), to $3,000 on the high end(4090 style)
Do you think you could make me lists with the most compatible+trustworthy parts possible?

[potent portal]

I have never once used etsy

I don't know what to look for in a seller

[crimson zinc]

I don’t need help on the Etsy end, fiancé has been doing Etsy selling for years.

I just need help making standardized builds for each of those tiers.

[potent portal]

Oh so these are priced to sell on etsy?

[crimson zinc]

Yes.
So basically, I would get the order, get ahold of the parts, put it together, then send it to the person. Effectively making prebuilts.

[potent portal]

And 3000 for a 4090 build is very optimistic, the gpu alone is over 2k

[mossy venture]

It's around 1800-1850 atm I believe

[potent portal]

Ah it's gone down a tad then

[crimson zinc]

I need 6 tiers.

Entry. High entry. Mid. Mid-high. High end. Ultra high end.

[potent portal]

Ok, are we doing the "cheap out where we can get away with it" route?

Storage, PSU, etc

[crimson zinc]

The most trustworthy, but cheap parts.

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FJn4vj

[crimson zinc]

I don’t wanna get a refund request for a $3000 purchase order because the PSU blew up lmao

[mossy venture]

Well under budget though

Yeah fair

Swap to gf a3

Pmd is B tier iirc

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mrGzgB

Can go to 2tb ssd, nicer case maybe

[crimson zinc]

Some things I’m looking for;
The second tier of each level having RGB. That’s usually what people spend for.
And trustworthy-ness.

[mossy venture]

I think this would have better resale value
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MTmhJy

[crimson zinc]

This build being the first high end, and the ultra high having RGB everywhere

[potent portal]

sigh My computer is lagging with just discord and browser open, I'm going to be no help right now

I can't wait for my new processor

[crimson zinc]

That’s okay lmao
I have like 3 weeks to set this up

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rXfgmD

[crimson zinc]

I’m waiting on a few friends to send me “demo” pictures of their high end rigs for eye candy.

@mossy venture what tiers would some of these go in?

[cerulean plinth]

@mossy venture You helped me build a PC on Reddit the other day. This is what you came up with

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HP2T9c

I've been talking with some people and they say it's a great build, but they would change the PSU and ram to this. What do you think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bbxmHG

If anyone else has some advice as well I would greatly appreciate it thanks

@crimson zinc asking cuz of ur name, would these builds above be Great for destiny 2? (It's the only game I play)

[mossy venture]

Also looks fine

Both are good iptions, won't really notice a difference either way

[cyan ravine]

Both are solid

Though I agree with the $5 more for the better psu

Whoever suggested that knew what they were doing @cerulean plinth

[muted shore]

@cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

That the one stick?

I see 8850C

[muted shore]

Yes

Sadly only one rn

Is this how the new CPUs are coming

[cyan ravine]

ye

[muted shore]

Okay

B450 vs 550

What's the difference

He said 550 better

[cyan ravine]

ok

8805C

8gbit Nanya C die

remember specifically what I just wrote

[muted shore]

Okay

[cyan ravine]

see this number

the last 5 need to match

I believe(????) Samsung C also runs well with Nanya C, could be wrong though

so it's dual rank nanya C

[cyan ravine]

it doesn't matter as long as it has heatsinks and a bios flash button

if it's missing one or both it's useless to you

[muted shore]

Yeah okay

[cyan ravine]

without heatsinks I can't guarantee it's an even semi-decent motherboard, usually the naked ones have poor staging and/or doubling

meanwhile bios flash means the cpu can work out of the box 100% guaranteed

you can't count on the motherboard to be necessarily up to date

I've tried counting on it before and been proven wrong

[muted shore]

He ordered this one bruh

Is this good?

[cyan ravine]

not the same one, no bios flash...

no heatsinks

4 pin cpu power and stage doubling

that ticks all the wrong boxes lol

[muted shore]

Lol bruh

[cyan ravine]

the B450, is the good one

the b450m is the blegh one it seems

should look like this

https://asset.msi.com/resize/image/global/product/product_6_20190711130744_5d26c42013318.png62405b38c58fe0f07fcef2367d8a9ba1/600.png

instead you got this

[potent portal]

B550 has PCIe 4.0, which usually doesn't matter

[cyan ravine]

https://asset.msi.com/resize/image/global/product/product_2_20190813160915_5d52702b0efa4.png62405b38c58fe0f07fcef2367d8a9ba1/600.png

at least the ssd is correct

sn580 stonks

[potent portal]

5700X shouldn't use too much power so the lack of VRM heatsinks is unlikely to matter, but it might in the future if you ever decided to upgrade

[muted shore]

But what about bios flash button

[potent portal]

If you don't have one of those you're crossing your fingers that the bios version installed is new enough

[muted shore]

Nah ima try and get it

What's with pcie gen 3 vs 4

Got a 3060

[potent portal]

Most of the time that doesn't matter for gamers

[muted shore]

I don't play games

Mostly cad

3d softwares

[potent portal]

Ah, well in that case you might benefit from a faster SSD using PCIe 4.0 but with the GPU it makes zero difference still

[cyan ravine]

@muted shore everything else looks correct apart from the motherboard

230V MWE bronze iirc is the full range model (MPG-ACAAG?)

which is the good tier B

[potent portal]

To verify real quick, you're outside of north america correct?

[cyan ravine]

india

[potent portal]

Good

[muted shore]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

so far the build looks ok, just waiting on a ram stick and hopefully you can swap the motherboard

[potent portal]

230V only version would be a major problem in US/CAN

[cyan ravine]

my bad

it's MPE-ACAAB

and the 230V is the full range version

afaik

[muted shore]

Is this psu good?

[cyan ravine]

so it does 230V and 115V

ye should be tier B

[muted shore]

Okay

[cyan ravine]

you can confirm by sending the sticker on the unit itself

[cyan ravine]

I mean the psu inside

there's a sticker on it

lol

[muted shore]

Oh okay

Seems fine lol

He just opened the mobo 😞

https://www.amazon.in/ASUS-Prime-II-Motherboard-Flashback/dp/B08KH12V25/ref=asc_df_B08KH12V25/?tag=googleshopmob-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=397007680479&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=707400241773704708&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9299136&hvtargid=pla-1020877275800&psc=1&mcid=98118850e4423ce1812be515802147dd&ext_vrnc=hi&gclid=Cj0KCQjwncWvBhD_ARIsAEb2HW9Jt3Ng4X6RHqa8_Crq32oS6cLdmh1JAam-klM7vJu7EYu0-mfgv40aAkvxEALw_wcB

Pleas check this one

[cyan ravine]

that one works

I know that one

[muted shore]

Is it as good as that one

Gaming plus max

[cyan ravine]

vs the one we originally decided? no

but if that asus is your only option it's good enough

just don't upgrade to anything more powerful

5700X is the limit for that board

[muted shore]

Okay

[cyan ravine]

don't touch pbo or overclock with it either on that one

[muted shore]

Yeah I only got 5700x

[muted shore]

And on gaming plus max?

[cyan ravine]

probably can do pbo

[muted shore]

Pbo?

[cyan ravine]

much more beefier design

[cyan ravine]

amd's form of easy overclocking

[muted shore]

Okay

So I should go for gaming plus max then

For better

Cuz they're literally the same price

[cyan ravine]

ye

imo ye

[muted shore]

Alright 👍

[cyan ravine]

just checking

your pc case is atx ye

or is it matx

I can't remember at this point what it was

[muted shore]

Spec 01

[cyan ravine]

ah ATX

ok ye b450 gaming max

[cyan ravine]

not the b450m version but the b450 ATX version

[muted shore]

Yes

So I'll go for b450 gaming plus max then

Other than that

Is everything alright

R7 5700x

[cyan ravine]

so far ye

[muted shore]

Mwe 650

[cyan ravine]

send the psu sticker and I'll be 100% sure of the psu

I'm like 99% rn

lol

[muted shore]

G skill 16gb ddr4 8805C

Psu sticker

Okay lemme send

Rtx 3060

Wd blue

[potent portal]

It'll look like this

[muted shore]

Okay

[potent portal]

@cyan ravineACABW

[cyan ravine]

meh, still ok

I thought all 230V were full range my mistake

but should still be fine

[potent portal]

Low C, still acceptable for this

[cyan ravine]

anyway I gotta go

[potent portal]

At least it won't explode under load

Especially since it likely will never be stressed

[muted shore]

Low c 😞

Why

[potent portal]

C tier is perfectly acceptable for lower end parts

Which the 5700X and 3060 qualify as

You'll probably have a peak wattage during gaming of 300W or something, you'll never stress it enough to matter

[muted shore]

Lower end lol

I'm not gaming

Cad

[potent portal]

Oh right right

Same deal

[muted shore]

Cpu isn't going to be overclocked

GPU gon use most of the power

[potent portal]

5700X uses 65W and 3060 uses maybe 200W assuming both are loaded 100%, plus the rest of the system

[muted shore]

Also can you recommend some b550 mobo

[muted shore]

Okay

[lone flame]

@potent portal #general-chat message

[cerulean plinth]

Do I need to include a copy of windows as well? Not sure how all that works

If so is windows 10 or 11 ideal

[muted shore]

Can someone recommend a b550 mobo pls

[potent portal]

I'm not too familiar with sites in India so I can only offer general recommendations.
Cheaper full ATX ones with flashback include the Gigabyte B550 UD AC (wifi), Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2 (no wifi, better board), MSI B550 A-Pro, Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite AX V2

[potent portal]

Windows is free to use, you just get limited access to the personalization menu. When it asks for the key just press "I don't have this".

11 is more ideal because 10 is end-of-life next year

[muted shore]

Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2

This one is

150usd

Wifi is not necessary

[muted shore]

What do you say

[potent portal]

Good board

[muted shore]

Alright

[potent portal]

Not 100% on price comparing between regions

[muted shore]

B450 gaming plus max vs gigabyte b550 gaming x v2

Price is not the main concern

It has pcie gen 4 ig

[potent portal]

Gen 4 slots make it "future proof" which doesn't really matter on AM4 since it's mostly a dead platform

But hey if you wanted to add a 4090 later it would do that about 5% better

[muted shore]

Okay

Will get b559 gaming x v2 then

Good packaging for rtx 3060

[muted shore]

Any one of them?

[potent portal]

Tuf works
Both MSI models in pic 3 work

[muted shore]

What about steel legend

Sounds and looks cool

[potent portal]

No flashback as far as I can tell

The button is to clear cmos

Not flash it

[muted shore]

Yeah okay

So msi only

[potent portal]

Pro-VDH works

[muted shore]

MSI gaming plus and msi b550 tomahawk

[potent portal]

And that's all of those that have flashback

The Asus Tuf and all 3 MSI models

[muted shore]

I'll go for msi then

Looks cooler

MSI B550 gaming plus

How is this one

[potent portal]

That works well. It's the B550 version of the board I used to use.

It would handle any AM4 processor

[muted shore]

That's nice

How is b550m pro vdh

Cheaper

But less specs

But not so cool lol

[potent portal]

Basically yes

[muted shore]

Will it be upgradable

To bigger cpu

[potent portal]

Still has all the basics you need and should support up to a 5950X at stock speeds

[muted shore]

Or should I go for b450 gaming plus max

Cheaper

[potent portal]

That would work. You'd lose PCIe 4.0 support and it would support up to a 5900X comfortably for extended workloads.

But it's cheaper as you say

[muted shore]

How much would pcie 3 mobo affect a pcie 4 ssd

[potent portal]

You'd never notice a difference

[muted shore]

So no difference

[potent portal]

Unless you're copying hundreds of GB from one SSD to another, no perceptible real world difference

[muted shore]

Okay

And if i want to upgrade this pc in later future

How is b450 gaming plus max

[potent portal]

You could upgrade it to the 5900X easily, or the 5950X if you put a fan near the heatsinks

And any GPU you want to throw at it will be fine too

[muted shore]

I got the other one lol

Other one got RGB so it's cool

Got a cool RGB work pc

[muted shore]

Thankfully both sticks are 8gbit Nanya C die

What is 8gbit Nanya C die tho

Sounds cute

[night rock]

Yo guys should I get a rx7800xt and a ryzen 5 7600x I will mainly just play like fortnite and some games

[dry remnant]

AMD cards for whatever reason kinda suck at running Fortnite (as well as blender) so I’d go with the nvidia equivalent, probably a 3080. You can save some money if you get it used as well

Local markets can have some good deals so I’d check fb marketplace

[cyan ravine]

Can confirm this is true in some situations yeah

7600x also has (or had, I hope it's still going) the free 1tb ssd with it

So would be solid, otherwise I'd do 7600 or 12600K with a matx board and good pcb for said board

[muted shore]

can r7 5700x be paired with a better gpu?

if I want to upgrade gpu in near future

[cyan ravine]

the psu can't but the cpu can yes

psu good up to about, 3060ti, 4060ti, 6700xt-ish

[crimson zinc]

D2 runs great on a gtx 1080, you’re gonna be just fine

[cerulean plinth]

Currently have a

GeForce Rtx 2060
I7 10700f
16gb ram

And I get like 40 fps during Crotas end 😭

Anyways I'm about to buy this today

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bbxmHG

I don't know much about PCs. Is everything here good to go? Like will everything fit, there's enough space, everything compatible. Do I need thermal paste?

[crimson zinc]

Should be all set. If you want a white case, the g360a has a rebate deal going on.

https://www.newegg.com/white-phanteks-eclipse-g360a-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854117

You’ll be alright. Everything looks completely fine.

[cerulean plinth]

Idrc about aesthetic. Just want performance. Do you think 32gb ram is enough? Would I ever be able to add more if needed?

I think I might've asked yesterday but I forgot

[crimson zinc]

32gb is gonna be fine for years.

You’ve already got your desk and chair?

[cerulean plinth]

Yeah have a desk I could prolly use a new chair tbh. I have a gt player but it's like falling apart

Have all accessories too

[crimson zinc]

Good, good.
Just go through a reputable seller for chairs. If you play competitive games, don’t hesitate to get the cooling support ones.

[cerulean plinth]

I didn't know those existed I might have to get one lol

[crimson zinc]

They get very expensive, just warning you now lmao

[cerulean plinth]

Oh actually do you have a recommendation for a curved monitor? I have one In the list but it's not curved

https://aoc.com/us/gaming/products/monitors/c27g2

My current monitor. I really like this one but want an upgrade

[crimson zinc]

I’d stick with the one in the list. Curved<non-curved.

[mossy venture]

did i explain to you the downsides to a curved monitor alr?

if yeah then ill take a look and link some

otherwise ill explain first and then you can decide if you still want one

[crimson zinc]

I’d explain either way

[cerulean plinth]

Nah I don't think so

Are they bad?

[mossy venture]

curved panels are either VA or cheap IPS, which means worse image quality, clarity, color accuracy, etc

[cerulean plinth]

Oh okay

I guess I'll stick with the monitor in the list then thanks

[mossy venture]

if you want a larger screen this is solid https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yyTZxr/hp-omen-32q-315-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-omen-32q

[cerulean plinth]

I'll think I'll stick with the 27in as I like my current monitor size

I don't need to apply thermal paste for my build do I?

[mossy venture]

your cooler will come w some

[cerulean plinth]

Alright well thanks for all the help

I'll probably be in here a lot when I start building it

[cerulean plinth]

Should I get protection plans with any of my parts or is it not needed

@mossy venture

[mossy venture]

All will have warranty through the manufacturer anyways

I wouldnt bother

[cerulean plinth]

👍

[gentle pollen]

So I am rebuilding my 5700G system and decided to use my Fractal Torrent's built in fan hub. Whenever the PSU is on, the fans spin rather then when the PC is on. Is that normal?

[potent portal]

You have the fan hub model from after the recall right?

[opal perch]

hey - is this good guys? https://www.newegg.com/acer-po3-650-ub91-predator-orion-3000/p/N82E16883101905?Item=N82E16883101905 (if this isn't the place to put this let me know)

[cyan ravine]

it was good until I read 3050

[opal perch]

ohh? wdym is 3050 not good for CPU? is there something else maybe that would be better?

[cyan ravine]

3050 is a woeful card

for almost anything really

[opal perch]

oh??

damnn Dx what would you recommend?

[cyan ravine]

gimme a sec

ima cook

[opal perch]

oh tyt np

tyy!

[cyan ravine]

ok @opal perch

let me ask a serious question

how adverse are you to building a pc all on your own

if I told you, you could have something, some, probably, 40%-ish better for the same money

[mossy venture]

This isn't bad
https://www.ebay.com/itm/325951533103?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=8ca4fx-mTwm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[cyan ravine]

ok you know what

[opal perch]

i could try! i mean i would watch a lot of tutorials

[cyan ravine]

Bacca just schooled me

no listen to him

that is a complete win

[opal perch]

oh rlly? lmao aye

but it's on ebay tho

Dx

[cyan ravine]

that's an excellent pc

that's better than I can do from scratch

[crimson zinc]

eBay is really a lot better than what it used to be @opal perch

[opal perch]

oh fr?

[crimson zinc]

They’re not garbage anymore

They still have some problems, but they’re definitely trustworthy now.

[cyan ravine]

this was the limit

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WMngmD

the ebay article beats this

quite handily

WAIT

@turbid cypress

OMG

IT'

IT-

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kf73kJ

[cyan ravine]

nvm @opal perch I take it back

that is absolutely not the cpu I thought it was

[mossy venture]

oh

[cyan ravine]

[opal perch]

Im so confused haha

[mossy venture]

Basically we thought it was a 13th or 14th gen intel cpu

It's actually a different cpu that's far worse

[cyan ravine]

yeah, turned out to be something way older

so instead, one of the two above lists

mine or bacca's

both are great

performance is about the same

[opal perch]

tbh i just want something like premadee (sorryy) and something i can stream with if that makes sense

[celest horizon]

Broadwell 14c

[cyan ravine]

it can stream

it won't be the strongest streamer, but it'll do it

[mossy venture]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare

[cyan ravine]

1080p 60? should be alright

[mossy venture]

5600 even beats it in multi core

[celest horizon]

x264? Better off with anything modern, lol.

[cyan ravine]

for building tutorials

one sec we have a pin

[opal perch]

tyy

[cyan ravine]

^^^ Click ^^^

[mossy venture]

Wait

Nvm

[cyan ravine]

I actually kind of like what I was seeing

skylake W-2135

[mossy venture]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235392576248?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=S0916h1VQhe&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=535459117904&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

This is good

10700f 2080 32gb ram for $800

[cyan ravine]

yeah that's a good one

it's an omen but also

[mossy venture]

I am still looking though

[cyan ravine]

2080

2080 would be a fair bit better for streaming over 6650xt and a bit better than 7600 generally speaking

64gb ram at that

[potent portal]

Am I missing something? Is my computer glitching again? Because the embed says that's a 11700KF, 64GB, and 3080

[opal perch]

https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/omen-25l-gaming-desktop-gt15-0245m-4u9d5av-1 what about this one?

& ty @mossy venture

[cyan ravine]

click the link it shows 10700f 32gb and 2080

[cyan ravine]

nah

every other pc we've looked at so far, even the trap one would be better unfortunately

[potent portal]

Oh weird, it's the listing title but you pick customizations? That's a poorly made store

[opal perch]

btw anything on amazon y'all?

[cyan ravine]

amazon doesn't usually have anything too exciting

[cyan ravine]

this for 800 is excellent tbh

you get a pc that's roughly equal to something worth about 950-ish new

[mossy venture]

https://www.amazon.com/Skytech-Gaming-Archangel-PC-Desktop/dp/B0C66NCQZJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?crid=2J4THRQ9ZHQUC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4NFEb1mX2z4IEOPhSzO2OZzaf96zDS6Txp0K0W9tkwBQ4bRzflpCJBQE_sDDKtbNbjr1W6qD9ZsZMl9b3p-o0mhcOYP6nHRFN8RXy91c15w8jh1b7cOxdatsaj7F3FlZYQeQm1Ji9F_vzpWEdArJKZ4ko6y2yhpgMDh_GpP150LR2kaq4ooOnURfje54FDBC9FfApPPjBhGgs_wAteopBQ.ErLmvOluwv8V8F3kuA86X6R7gn3yptSndwkVNdgXWa8&dib_tag=se&keywords=pc&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&qid=1710454116&s=warehouse-deals&sprefix=pc%2Caps%2C109&sr=8-7