building-and-recc-chat

[cyan ravine]

I mean nowadays the odds are it will work without issues as long as you avoid the basics

[small sail]

I think the 1060 gets 1500 mhz?

[cyan ravine]

like a really hilarious cheap mobo or psu

[mossy venture]

5600x is a low power cpu though, it won't be much of an issue

[small sail]

Does it have OC capabilities?

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt cpu overclock much with that motherboard

[cyan ravine]

meh I'd just flip the entire old pc without storage

[small sail]

Is it better than the PRIME A320M-K?

[small sail]

Full rig upgrade basically?

[cyan ravine]

yep

[mossy venture]

You could also do this, and add the profits from it to the budget

[cyan ravine]

open up your budget a bit

[mossy venture]

Should be able to get 225-350 for it depending on the buyer

[cyan ravine]

that would give you a lot of options

I could turn the list into something that's quite nice

[small sail]

Also how often does the average PC gamer upgrade their CPUs and GPUs, after like 5-6 years?

Sure I'd appreciate it

[mossy venture]

It varies a lot

More impatient people, one every 2-3 years

[small sail]

Yeah also I have an Acer Predator monitor that goes to 165hz, someone told me there's no way I'm reaching 165hz with my current GPU, that's true right?

[mossy venture]

Well

165 fps, no

Hz is the refresh rate, most gpus can run 1080p 165hz with ease, but most games a 1060 will not hit 165 fps

[small sail]

Gotcha

[cyan ravine]

decent ballpark

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jvmXpB

could also sku the way of a 5600+6800

[mossy venture]

I'd spend the extra for GT 650

[cyan ravine]

results will be fairly similar but no ddr5 nor much upgradability

oh yeah the psu oops

[small sail]

Thanks, WOW that is a rig!

[cyan ravine]

fixed it with the GT

[mossy venture]

Wait there might be one other option, give me a sec

[cyan ravine]

Think we're starting to get to that point where, if not at the very bottom of the barrel, ddr5 is taking the fore

[small sail]

What's DDR5?

[cyan ravine]

new generation of ram

without explaining too much, 5 is bigger number than 4

[small sail]

It says I have 16GB of RAM

[cyan ravine]

bigger better better number

[rain carbon]

how difficult is to get colour specific parts outside of like black and white for lets say around 1k-1.5k if there are even any? ofc i know spray paint and the such are options but

[cyan ravine]

yeah I'd say 16gb isn't really equitable now

[rain carbon]

it feels like you cant find anything that isnt way overpriced in any nice colours

[cyan ravine]

spray paint as you mentioned, definitely the easiest option

[small sail]

32 GB is the new standard for RAM?

[cyan ravine]

colour matching outside black and white very difficult

[mossy venture]

Ok there's a way to get 12600kf, b660m pro rs, ans 16gb ddr4 for $201

[south cliff]

ark uses 16gb of ram at like 1080p

[silk prairie]

real

[mossy venture]

Wait

[south cliff]

max graphics of course

[mossy venture]

12600kf b660m pro rs 32gb ddr4 for $225

[rain carbon]

id think so, being not in enough demand ofc

[cyan ravine]

it's not unusable, but it's definitely not gonna last much longer

[mossy venture]

If you go on newegg, go to their combo up savings

[south cliff]

yeah and its not that expensive

[mossy venture]

Select 12600kf, b660m pro rs, and the 32gb ddr4 OLOY kit of ram

[cyan ravine]

$201 wouldn't be too bad

vs. 300

for the ddr5 set

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/Combo-Up-Savings/EventSaleStore/ID-1740

[rain carbon]

are stickers a bad idea at all on the internals in a build?

[mossy venture]

Far better value

[cyan ravine]

sorry 340

yeah I agree

alr you win

lol

[cyan ravine]

nope

[small sail]

So if I wanna cheap out and just get a new CPU/GPU, what's the best I could do?

[cyan ravine]

what bacca said tbh

it comes out cheaper than the 5600

[mossy venture]

12600kf, b660m pro rs, 32gb OLOY ddr4 kit from this link for $224
https://www.newegg.com/Combo-Up-Savings/EventSaleStore/ID-1740

[rain carbon]

fair enough

[mossy venture]

Ft120 air cooler

[silk prairie]

i'm starting to build a pc, and i was wondering if a ryzen 5 5600 with a gtx 1050 ti can run fortnite on at least 100 fps

[mossy venture]

Gt650 for psu

[mossy venture]

1050 ti is a bit low for fortnite, do you already own anything?

[south cliff]

it could but at performance mode

[mossy venture]

Or is this a completely new build

[silk prairie]

no lol

[mossy venture]

What's your budget and country?

[silk prairie]

i was also thinking about a 1660 super

[silk prairie]

around 500 to 600 usd (i'm in texas)

[mossy venture]

Alright do the same bundle I mentioned above with this
https://www.newegg.com/Combo-Up-Savings/EventSaleStore/ID-1740

12600kf, b660m pro rs, and 32gb ddr4 OLOY kit

Comes to $224

[cyan ravine]

bacca

224,96?

[south cliff]

i would look on your used facebook marketplace market

[mossy venture]

Ye

[cyan ravine]

alr

[south cliff]

you can find some good deals on facebook marketplace

just have to take the tim eto look

[mossy venture]

Here's the rest of the build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qPc9PF

[silk prairie]

i have all the parts i want on amazon and it comes to $597

[south cliff]

like it might take a hour to find a good deal

[cyan ravine]

@small sail https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2z94mD
https://www.newegg.com/Combo-Up-Savings/EventSaleStore/ID-1740
12600kf, b660m pro rs, and 32gb ddr4 OLOY kit

[mossy venture]

That would be a lot better than anything else available

[south cliff]

1050 ti isnt good

[mossy venture]

6600 is far better than the 1050 ti, it's around the 1080 in performance

[south cliff]

how much is it on amazon

[silk prairie]

well its with a 1660 super instead of a 1050

[mossy venture]

Which is what, a 45% difference?

6600 is better than the 1660s too

[cyan ravine]

I think we can do a slightly better case

[mossy venture]

By about 15-20%

Yeah fair

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fbr4mD

that would let you upgrade the gpu later

[silk prairie]

i have a motherboard, ram, ssd, cpu, cpu cooler, and case; i only need a graphics card

[cyan ravine]

if not this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6TDPL9

[cyan ravine]

what have you bought and the 600 is for the gpu alone?

[silk prairie]

i got nothin. everything i listed is what i got in my amazon cart💀

[cyan ravine]

then yeah one of the above lists will be better

600 is scraping it in

and suprisingly you can get a VERY good i5 for 600

[silk prairie]

apparently a 6600 is the way to go then

[south cliff]

yeah you should get 165 pretty constantly with it in fortnite prob even 240

[cyan ravine]

1080p yea

[south cliff]

yeah performance mode

which performance mode looks better than regular imo

[silk prairie]

i play on my ancient dell, so really anything at this point

[small sail]

So either way I have to full rig it? I can't just go with a CPU/GPU?

[south cliff]

its going to be like 10 times better

[silk prairie]

i play fort on 20-30 fps on THE LOWEST SETTINGS POSSIBLE. it looks like an 8-bit game at this point and still crashes

[south cliff]

your gonna get 200 plus

[silk prairie]

bet

[south cliff]

12600k is what i had a couple days ago

and it played 200 plus at 1440p

[silk prairie]

https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-Fighter-Radeon-6600-Graphics/dp/B09H3PY14M/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1T3H3LZBESWLM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.W2ShQak_W5bEMeLlD54zin4cA89PhOCgtpf9b0igig6fQ_PWwZ6_9Nls-uA7YT5Gx_TIJR8zIusVfTdS8eLtx92AVb7LLm3BjMOStIOmdldciBqv0KJpe6AWqSZ14ZO_4bGTYdExwkdoEmUCr2LOTJQnlG7ScURm_CMX7X_A4ajw7n5Fi_mZVtbHEq3hdq1VWvxH1ho_vq6aYml5wVsrz0N12QFvLCt_CKy3SHkKsrg.FJYcCZottudNBJ5JOOyLJwHn-lnZoQ0icigTm0PIqzM&dib_tag=se&keywords=radeon%2Brx%2B6600&qid=1709006460&sprefix=raedon%2Brx%2B6600%2Caps%2C144&sr=8-4&th=1 you think this will do?

[south cliff]

its the same one on the parts list

[silk prairie]

how many watts would i need for it

like 700?

[south cliff]

400

but like

[silk prairie]

only? dang

[south cliff]

thats estimate

600

would give you room to upgrade

later down the line

[silk prairie]

i had 500 already, so maybe ill find a 550 watt

[south cliff]

i wouldnt get 400 if i were you

[cyan ravine]

I would yea.
If you end up with more from flipping the pc. This.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fcPwFs

https://www.newegg.com/Combo-Up-Savings/EventSaleStore/ID-1740

same sale

[south cliff]

the parts list has a 600

oh

thats wrong guy

[cyan ravine]

I had all the parts in a list I sent here
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fbr4mD

[small sail]

Curious, why should I go full rig? Is it dangerous and incompatible with the other components?

[cyan ravine]

nah it's more like, you'll net higher overall and you can carry it over to a stronger system

[mossy venture]

Felix is suggesting from a point of value, but if you need it cheaper, I'd keep your case and current storage
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J7HPL9

[cyan ravine]

It's up to you if you want to invest this deeply

[silk prairie]

500 or 600 is watt i'll do (ba-dum tshh)

[mossy venture]

If you absolutely need it cheaper, 5600x, keep your mobo and ram for now.

[cyan ravine]

end of the day these lists are all decent

[small sail]

True, I'm just curious, the lists are great it's just the cost that turns me off lol

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7pp7gB

[small sail]

Plus I like my case

[silk prairie]

me too

[mossy venture]

That depends on model

There's a lot of psus that are fire hazard

[cyan ravine]

Taking it under the assumed instance you sell your current pc for a given amount

[mossy venture]

The cheapest psus that aren't at the moment are abn 550 and 650, apevia Prestige, 600w, and evga GT 650

[small sail]

Oh then that's fair, I don't really intend to get rid of it, I just wanted to do a couple upgrades

[cyan ravine]

I can dial it back easily

just stick the 6600 back in lol

[small sail]

Sure

[mossy venture]

You could also look for a used cpu, like a 3600, 5500, 5600, 4500, etc

[cyan ravine]

the thing with pc gaming rn, the entry level has been fluctuating between 550 and 700 for years

[mossy venture]

Or a used gpu like a 1080 ti, 5700xt, 2060 and above, 6600 and above, etc

[small sail]

It's just I'm not into a full-rig sort of thing but at the same time I don't wanna get a bunch of components that end up not being compatible or fry it

[cyan ravine]

yeah used 5700xt works

[mossy venture]

Biggest thing is I'd upgrade your psu for sure

[cyan ravine]

my main concern is the motherboard tbh

[mossy venture]

Actuallt no, biggest thing is get an SSD

[small sail]

You think used CPUs and GPUs would be a big upgrade over my current ones?

[cyan ravine]

prime ab350 wasn't great

[cyan ravine]

yes

[mossy venture]

Getting an ssd for your OS drive is HUGE

[small sail]

I've heard SSDs are very important for a performance boost, yeah

[mossy venture]

You know how when you turn your pc on, stuff opens and your pc lags for the first 2-20 minutes?

[cyan ravine]

There's no short exaggeration of the number of times faster your pc will feel with a whole overhaul

[mossy venture]

And opening games and such can take a very long time?

An ssd for your windows drive will fix that COMPLETELY

[small sail]

Yuuuup, disk usage is always 100% for me as soon as I login for like 10 mins, very annoying

[mossy venture]

Like, 5-15 second and your pc is completely usable

[small sail]

Damn

[cyan ravine]

btw bacca, we can make the ddr4 selection even cheaper

but almost sketch

lmao

[mossy venture]

Atp I'd just go for the $36 16gb kit

[small sail]

SOUNDS GREAT TO ME lmao

[mossy venture]

Should be $200 for cpu mobo and ram

[silk prairie]

thats what i'm getting

[cyan ravine]

lol

[mossy venture]

Pls tell me the psu you're getting isn't the Thermaltake smart 80+ white

[small sail]

Anything would be a huge difference for me, I've gotten accustomed to my 6 year old pc but it's noticeably far slower than when I got it

[cyan ravine]

WHY'S IT MORE

[mossy venture]

Is it cheaper than the pro rs with the sale?

[cyan ravine]

one says save $5 the other says save $15

[mossy venture]

Ah

Weird

[cyan ravine]

but it's not

confusing af LOL

[mossy venture]

Makes sense

[silk prairie]

the psu i was gonna get was the thermaltake smart 600w. is it a fire hazard yes or no?

[mossy venture]

Yes it is

Evga 650 GT

Should be $64

[cyan ravine]

smart is a bomb

it's a power supply

it does power supply things

with zero safeties

[mossy venture]

And its on amazon too

[cyan ravine]

so something goes wrong like a power surge

POOF

[mossy venture]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088SSX883?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[silk prairie]

i'm broke af so i cant go super quality lol

[south cliff]

I would save a little bit then

[silk prairie]

but this'll do

[cyan ravine]

If we can snake oil you $15 into FAR BETTER safety, I'd gladly be a salesman

difference between a house fire and no parts lost

[silk prairie]

lol idk

[cyan ravine]

it's that big of a difference

[south cliff]

would rather spend the extra money and get something that will last and work than get something that might have a chance to break what you just bought

[silk prairie]

at this point my laptop could blow any minute

[south cliff]

ive learned from experience

[cyan ravine]

if ANYTHING you walk away with today, it's the good psu

[silk prairie]

when i say i'm broke, i mean the only thing i can afford myself is the case

[south cliff]

parents buying?

[silk prairie]

nah just me

[mossy venture]

Can you link the other parts you're buying? Odds are there's cheaper alternatives for some

it's better to cheap out on literally any part over the psu

[cyan ravine]

we've fallen sub 600

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FqJJ28
https://www.newegg.com/Combo-Up-Savings/EventSaleStore/ID-1740
12600kf, b660m pro rs, and 32gb ddr4 OLOY kit

[silk prairie]

my parents are the ones who are gonna make me pay for anything

[rain carbon]

are you saying youre still saving up?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DvFRh3

[south cliff]

or are tehy going to buy and then you just pay them back over time?

[mossy venture]

$509

Could also do a used nvidia gpu

Like a 2060

Oh wait

Just swap the ram to the 16gb kit, and its $24 cheaper

$485

[cyan ravine]

Would rather go no case 💀

[silk prairie]

heres the links
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZY2F35X/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?smid=A1F1AR4QTV3Z2S&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08QV1V17R/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?smid=A25SITGFW0OQJA&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07997QV4Z/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=A25SITGFW0OQJA&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08166SLDF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09Z7VM85V/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A2SOZ46JN0X2C6&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09H3PY14M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B088SSX883/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CGW3HYM9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[mossy venture]

Why

16gb is fine for fortnite

[cyan ravine]

yeah

for now

idk man, trading 16gb for a mattrex 40 in 2024

lololol

[mossy venture]

Is there any chance of you being able to order off of places other than Amazon

[silk prairie]

not really

[mossy venture]

That completely sucks ok let me see what I can do

[cyan ravine]

ordering specifically off one place is how you get the cost to skyrocket

deals are in every store not just one

[silk prairie]

i mean i really only trust amazon...

but im open to other sites

[cyan ravine]

then why did you come to the newegg server

We're suggesting newegg and amazon

and if you do the 5700XT, as a used card that would be the fastest card you could do

Sub $500 now, we're heading into jank

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dxdyRK
https://www.newegg.com/Combo-Up-Savings/EventSaleStore/ID-1740
Select 12600kf, b660m pro rs, and 32gb ddr4 OLOY kit in the newegg sale

we're starting to really peak as far as value for money here

for context, 5700XT is faster than a 6600

[mossy venture]

Damn
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yvQmKX

$10 over

[cyan ravine]

would that board be guaranteed to work by now

I'm still picking flash boards

[manic cloak]

7900 GRE vs 7800xt?

[potent portal]

It's hard to recommend something that hasn't been tested thoroughly, and there isn't a single entry on hwbot that shows how well it overclocks. If the vram overclocks well like Felix and I think it will, then the GRE is a no brainer, but I haven't seen anyone overclock it yet.

Start bugging GN and HUB to overclock their cards. It's not something they normally do but if it turns out to be interesting enough then they'll do a video on it.

If Der8auer or AHOC get their hands on one that would be ideal. They do a lot of unconventional overclocking and know how to push the limits.

[lone flame]

they should of just called it the RX 7900 for its global launch

they did the same with the RX 6800

[potent portal]

It launches tomorrow so we should get more info in a couple days.

[lone flame]

if it can overclock well im excited

might be another good rnda3 offering

thats at the "midrange" price

also will make 7700/7800 cheaper prob

[potent portal]

If the memory can easily go from 18 to at least the 19.5 the XT is rated for with just sliders in afterburner then I'll be happy to recommend it

It should be the same memory chips as the XT and XTX so it should in theory barring vbios limits

[mossy venture]

I'm imagining it'll match the 4070s, or at least come very close

[lone flame]

i thought it was supposed to be like 5-10% faster than 4070s

[potent portal]

GN shows it beating the 4070S by a small margin

HUB shows it losing by a small margin

[lone flame]

was his pulse OCed at all

i only watched a bit of it this morning before I went into work

[mossy venture]

If it scales well and easily with oc, then it'd be very well priced

We'd likely see price cuts in 4070s/4070 on nvidias end if that's the case

[potent portal]

If it was then it's just a standard factory OC of like 30Mhz on core

Sapphire nitro+ gre shows power limit slider goes up to +15% which gives it a 280W limit

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/262245/sapphire-rx7900gre-16384-230616

[lone flame]

7900 XT tdp is like 330 right?

or was that XTX

[potent portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/500101029157797899/1211531927316865054/image.png

[manic cloak]

Does it having lower clock speeds affect it though

or is that absolutely ignored because of OC

[potent portal]

If we're overclocking it anyway we can ignore that for the most part

It's a navi 31 die so we know it should be able to hit "2400" (actual speed is very different) given enough power to do so

[lone flame]

speaking of OCing.. i want to be on the top of this for whatever reason

bottom 35% 💀

[potent portal]

You've got a full 2500 points to catch up then, and overclock CPU, GPU, and RAM on LN2

[mossy venture]

Top 100 is doable without the above

1st hell no

[lone flame]

how do i beat him then

[little osprey]

a whole dollar 😩

[mossy venture]

Use MPT (more power tool) to give higher power limit, oc and undervolt

And ram tune

Ram tuning would help gpu score more than you'd think

[lone flame]

maybe ill play around with it more when I caseswap and get a new psu

6950xt eats power

[little osprey]

Damn better buy it right now

[forest lava]

Is it possible for an HDD to corrupt while not installed or in use?

For some reason, whenever I try to swap my girlfriend's HDD with my old one (yes I remembered to swap both sata and data connectors and not to leave the other one plugged to a different sata connector), it boots to the Recover warning screen, even though it's not the boot drive being changed

It was never corrupted before

Well crap

It was that drive

My other HDD boots with no problem

For some reason, that specific hdd corrupted while not in use I think

Somehow preventing the PC from booting at all

[obsidian wigeon]

They could indeed corrupt over time without use

[analog hearth]

Some idiot is gonna put this in #tech-deals 💀

[silk prairie]

shoot my wifi just cut cya

[naive latch]

Hey could someone help me I’m not sure what to plug in where on my psu

[dusky hearth]

Might be dying as well; depends on how it's stored and transported

Also HDD boot in 2024? That's wild

[forest lava]

That's the thing, I never used it as a boot drive

I actually used my other HDD as a boot because my ssd was taking a while to arrive but then I immediately switched to nvme

[dusky hearth]

Oh plugging in the drive into the system causes issues

Yeah that HDD is most likely damaged

[forest lava]

that's really unfortunate for me

[dusky hearth]

I've seen old drives cause PC's to fail POST

[forest lava]

1.8tb of files gone

[dusky hearth]

If they're important files, you could spend like $200 to get the files back

[forest lava]

I don't think they're worth $200, but I did have a bunch of games, two years worth of clips with my friends, and some saves, mods, and other misc files I used

[dusky hearth]

Well, I'm not 100% certain that your drive is dead dead, but you've tested connecting another hdd and that worked so it probably is an issue with your drive

Also I just double checked and the price could be anywhere from $100-1k

Depending on the type of failure

[south cliff]

It should be like a 3 prong cable it’s a little bulky at the end

It should come with your psu

[mossy venture]

You could try connecting it through USB once you're already booted to windows

And then try repairing the drive in windows

You'd need an hdd enclosure but they're cheap enough

No gaurantee it works though

[south cliff]

Is this motherboard fine I can get it part of a deal https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b650e-pg-riptide-wifi/p/N82E16813162079?Item=N82E16813162079&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FTz2WGX%2Fasrock-b650e-pg-riptide-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650e-pg-riptide-wifi&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-1gaeJ5qXnatoihhxaRVz7w

So I will save like 50 dollars

[naive latch]

Okay now I’m putting cable extensions on and idk which ones go on what 2 of them look the same but have 1 different end

[weak flint]

its kinda concerning how most people have their partitions messed up and they think their hdd is broken

[mossy venture]

Yeah its fine

[south cliff]

Only bad thing is that its just blue I can’t change it

[mossy venture]

What's the bundle?

[south cliff]

It’s sending

[naive latch]

How many pcie am I supposed to have plugged in

Just 1 right

If I have 1 gpu

[south cliff]

What’s your gpu

[naive latch]

4070ti super

I have extensions tho

I have 3 pcie cables and 3 spots on the extensions

[south cliff]

Yeah you plug them all in

The extension goes into your gpu and then you plug the 3 in with pie cables

[naive latch]

Okay thank you

Okay I think my psu only has 2 spots

I might be lying

[south cliff]

But use separate 8 pin cables

[little osprey]

is the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D worth the price tag?

Am thinking of getting it

just wondering if it is worth it

[potent portal]

If you're gaming, yes. It often beats the 14900k.

While costing $200 less and using 1/3 the power.

[little osprey]

am going to buy my parts

now

Can you look over it

before I do?

[potent portal]

I've got a few minutes, sure

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RbLtqR

Dont worry about the 4060 ti

[potent portal]

Parts look good to me

Besides that GPU but you've been over that before

[little osprey]

Yep

and whats your thoughts

on a Mini ATX

Its cheaper

but what actually will I loose?

[potent portal]

You only lose some PCIe slots and sometimes M.2 slots, occasionally a fan header or something.

[little osprey]

so basically

If I just want to stick with 1TB storage, and only want to go up to 64GB of DDR5 ram

I should just stick to an ATX?

[potent portal]

There's already 2x M.2 slots on that board if you want to get another drive later, and the memory support is the same between ATX and mATX.

[little osprey]

Got it

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b650m-pro-rs/p/N82E16813162131?Item=N82E16813162131&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FqcbRsY%2Fasrock-b650m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs-wifi&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-C.cSfQ3KyW00lIzCXYghgg

Would this be a good one?

or can you find a better one?

[potent portal]

That's one of the best options

It even has 3x M.2 slots

Plus removeable wifi card so you can upgrade that to wifi 7 or something later

[little osprey]

and I can still connect it to power and connect it to fans correct

The only thing thats missing is the same features but less on the ATX

[potent portal]

Yep

[little osprey]

Perfect

Apreciate it

[potent portal]

This board in particular has more features than many full size ones

[little osprey]

❤️

https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-6000MHz-PC5-48000-SP032GXLWU60AFDE/dp/B0CLVBQWDL/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3VZH0WP8QKJY5&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AfjUf2EhlemFnrY5KTR5nzRKoMvRk0QPMODcSw7h1s4fe2nja_WgXC9ALqwMQQAaBqzyzCIesPeDRP3mOLlCsnD2co6rS2oZ58OXntJF-eFWd8Lwb1uH4nIGtNQV0UakyWAyssUYixt4JCDOq1vIzgFzbbLJIHCmj7O1HHt8wOBt6Q_Asi4jMadPwr1XZoFM6mi78COAcez89N6hkKEKKxUUsL9lx82YFILqm_9mujQ.M5JQfVgOReAddERSgeOZSQJL-S8cpW-ShqNPL3T2dlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=Silicon%2BPower%2BXPOWER%2BZenith%2BRGB%2BGaming%2B32%2BGB%2B(2%2Bx%2B16%2BGB)%2BDDR5-6000%2BCL30%2BMemory&qid=1709056464&sprefix=silicon%2Bpower%2Bxpower%2Bzenith%2Brgb%2Bgaming%2B32%2Bgb%2B2%2Bx%2B16%2Bgb%2Bddr5-6000%2Bcl30%2Bmemory%2Caps%2C153&sr=8-1&th=1

https://www.newegg.com/p/0RN-002K-000H9?Item=9SIBDGPK7E6538&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2Fs8vD4D%2Fsilicon-power-xpower-zenith-rgb-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-su032gxlwu60afdhsw&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Zkf76FEBzd.2_BcFoWLFCQ

Am a bit confused on the difference between these

and which ones I should choose?

[stoic island]

Looks like the same kit ..?

[little osprey]

yea literally looks the same to me

[stoic island]

6000 30-38-38-96 on both

[little osprey]

I was just wondering because I would like to use prime

[south cliff]

Ok I can finally buy my parts just wanting to make sure everything is good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xgc2fy

I could spent the extra 40 dollars for this motherboard

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-b650-plus-wifi/p/N82E16813119595?item=N82E16813119595

But probably will get more storage

[naive latch]

Okay could someone help me I’m trying to daisy chain my fans together and also get my aio to turn on but I have absolutely no clue what I’m doing

[south cliff]

Ok well I ordered all of my parts

[main yacht]

Alright, I've got a new build with the Asrock Z790 Nova, the Cpu temp doesn't display on the LED block, it shows temperature everywhere else including the Bios, any body have any ideas? Bios is updated to the most recent version and everything else works
I9 14900k
G Skill 8000mhz
Stay quiet 1500w PSU

[potent portal]

Do you mean the 7 segment displays on the top right side of the board? Those aren't meant to display temperature, they're for debugging the boot sequence.

[potent portal]

Which fans, AIO, and motherboard?

[main yacht]

Just a Dr.Debug lol thank you @potent portal

[potent portal]

I don't blame you for the confusion, especially since some of the extremely high end boards do use it to display temps after the boot sequence is done.

[main yacht]

It really should be standard, you learn something everyday. Thanks again. @potent portal

[potent portal]

I agree, they're very cheap and simple devices

[naive latch]

Tcc12 fans elite ax ice motherboard and frozen prism aio

[potent portal]

RGB model fans or no RGB

[naive latch]

I finally got the 3 fans on the side to spin and light up now all I need is for my other 2 fans to light up and my aio to light up

Rgb

[potent portal]

Ok, so with RGB you want to be careful how many you put in a chain. Most motherboards can't reliably power more than 4.

Sometimes 5

[naive latch]

I have 3 in a chain

3 in the aio in a chain and 3 in a chain

The aio ones aren’t lighting up and I have 2 other fans that won’t light up

[potent portal]

You've got them lined up like this?

[south cliff]

I got lucky the 4080 open box came back in stock

[south cliff]

Ok I have 150 dollars for a m.2 what’s the max I can get

Like max tb

Should I wait till the 4tb comes back on sale

[weary galleon]

That 4tb was a great deal, not sure if we'll see something like that come back anytime soon

[weary galleon]

Do you already have an SSD of some kind?

[mossy venture]

I doubt we'll see it that cheap again

Mp44l 2tb atm I think

[south cliff]

Yeah I’m pretty sad I didn’t get it because I had to put my money in the bank and the deal was gone by then but no i sold my other pc with drives in it

[south cliff]

Alright

[cyan ravine]

ye mp44l

or if you want to go to the peak of the mountain, this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mnxRsY/hp-fx900-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-4a3u1aaabb

$10 more but unless you do 4K work it's not gonna do anything

[south cliff]

So no difference

[cyan ravine]

pretty much

[south cliff]

Ok I will get the mp44L

Is there a difference with the agile version?

[cyan ravine]

the what version

I've never known an ssd to jump off walls if that's what you're asking

[south cliff]

It’s the mp44

They making weird names

[cyan ravine]

that's vanilla mp44

think MP44L as "lite"

very different drives

[south cliff]

Which better only 7 dollar difference

[cyan ravine]

if you want to spend $7 get the FX900 pro

for $3 more

[south cliff]

Alright

I bought it

Thank you

For all of the help

[crimson zinc]

Buy me one too

[south cliff]

I wish I’m broke now lol spent 1800 dollars today

[crimson zinc]

Proud of you

Now spend another 1800 on a 4090

[south cliff]

I would have to spend more on a new psu probably

Actually 850 probably enough

[cyan ravine]

With 7800x3d ye

But 4090's just aren't worth buying anymore

That 4080 is literally the best deal on high end by a significant margin

That zotac one you got

[south cliff]

Yes does open box come with the box and the accessories?

[lone flame]

someone posted this in the AMD server 💀

[cyan ravine]

Hahahaha

Brilliant

[cyan ravine]

No accessories, not sure about the box

If you need accessories it will be just a gpu support brace and amazon has those for like $5

[south cliff]

Is that a Xbox?

[south cliff]

I just really want the box first time I bought all of my stuff brand new / open box

[cyan ravine]

I mean

You can contact them if you really want the box

Odds are it's probably coming in said box

But you can always check

I know the feeling, I went back to my pc store after getting my first pc to get the i9 box for it

[south cliff]

Boxes most important part

[lyric thistle]

I thought it was a PSU shroud lol

[random thistle]

https://newegg.io/d83c95e Is this a good build or nah?

[forest lava]

It seems I can never run out of issues

After simply moving three games over, no additional drivers or save files or anything like that, my PC is acting weird again

Whenever my girlfriend plays Valorant, the PC audio gets cut off entirely, then eventually, the keyboard dies too, then the pc shuts off and then needs to be manually booted through the UEFI

Which, I have no clue why it's happening now

It's not just Valorant I think, it never happened before with that game or before I even started swapping drives

I thought it was a driver issue, used DDU, nothing changed

this funny lil thing happened to me

[naive latch]

What’d I do

[south cliff]

Did you just build the pc

?

[naive latch]

Yeah

[potent portal]

Clear cmos

?cmos

[jolly river]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[naive latch]

I did

Mine has a button to do it

[potent portal]

You usually have to hold those for about 10 seconds

[naive latch]

Oh fr

[potent portal]

With the PC off ofc

[naive latch]

Lemme try that

Okay

Completely off or just hit the button

[potent portal]

Completely off

[naive latch]

Okay I’m doing it rq

It still booted to that screen

[potent portal]

Ok so I'd check to make sure everything is seated properly, starting with the memory sticks. You can also try with just one stick of memory.

[naive latch]

It booted up fine once and it told me to press f and I did

And this happened

Okay I checked the seating on the ram and the gpu they’re both fine

I won’t even lie to you half my rgb just turned off

[potent portal]

The cooler and CPU too, sometimes bad mounting can cause memory issues

[naive latch]

Okay

[potent portal]

Did you already update the bios?

[naive latch]

No

[potent portal]

I'd recommend that too then

[naive latch]

Red light on dram does that mean anything

Now it’s on boot

[potent portal]

If it gets stuck on one of those lights for more than a couple minutes then it could indicate an issue

The boot light just means it's looking for windows

[naive latch]

It’s been on boot

If I plugged my windows flash drive in do you think it’d boot

[potent portal]

Maybe but I'd be worried about the bios first, it's not supposed to appear corrupted like that

Or, squashed maybe?

Either way that should be updated

The latest update fixes some critical security flaws

[naive latch]

How do I do it from that screen though

[potent portal]

Hit down on your keyboard until enter bios is selected then hit enter

If it lets you into bios and it's not corrupt looking then you should be ok to plug in a flash drive with the update

[naive latch]

Off boot? Because I’ve tried that it doesn’t give me an option it just goes straight to that screen

[potent portal]

Otherwise you should use flashback

[potent portal]

Enter BIOS option just goes back to that screen?

[naive latch]

Yeah

Everything just goes to that screen immediately

[potent portal]

Ok so you'll want to use flashback if you have it to update

What is the exact model of motherboard?

[naive latch]

It’s the ASUS b650m ax elite ice

[potent portal]

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/BIOS/mb_bios_b650m-a-elite-ax-ice_8arpl238_f22b.zip?v=7f6fc8d199a94e39dc38aadbb33e9e34

Download and extract that to your flash drive with the windows installer

Rename the B650MAELITEAXICE.F22b file to GIGABYTE.bin

Plug the USB into the bios flash port on the back of the motherboard

It's the red one at the bottom that says "bios" next to it

[naive latch]

Okay I’ll do that

[potent portal]

Once you've done all that there's the q-flash plus button at the top of the back panel

[naive latch]

Could my ram be in the wrongs spots? I have it in 2 and 4

[potent portal]

2 and 4 is correct 99% of the time

[naive latch]

Okay I’m gonna download that

[crimson zinc]

Acer predator oled shot up $90 today
Lame as hell

[potent portal]

More will come

There's this one too https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BBhv6h/aoc-ag276qzd-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-ag276qzd

[crimson zinc]

Saw that too

[cosmic island]

Opinions on buying a refurbished 600w sfx psu from Corsair?

[potent portal]

Which model and how old is it?

[cosmic island]

SF600

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/certified-refurbished/cp-9020105-na-rf/sf-series™-sf600-600-watt-80-plus®-gold-certified-high-performance-sfx-psu-na-refurbished

The new ones are out of stock. I'm looking on Amazon too but they only have a 850w one

My estimated pc wattage is only 324w 😅

[cosmic island]

.

[potent portal]

Are you building an ITX system that needs a SFX power supply? Because if so that's actually a really good option.

If you're building a standard sized PSU system then that wouldn't fit

[cosmic island]

I'm using Lian li O11 dynamic mini case

I bought an ATX psu and it didn't fit the case 😭

[potent portal]

Yep that's a SFX power supply one

O11 has lots of different varieties and it gets really confusing fast

[earnest olive]

as long as it's got a warranty it's worth a shot

[cosmic island]

How do I know its got warranty?

[potent portal]

corsair does 90 days on refurb

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041757452-Corsair-certified-refurbished-products-FAQ

[cosmic island]

Ooh oki

[earnest olive]

oh wow 90 days is really short

at least it's long enough to have you covered if it immediately explodes lol

[cosmic island]

That makes me worried 😂

[earnest olive]

but idk 90 days gives me pause

seems like they don't have much faith in their own refurbished units if they're only willing to stand behind them for 90 days

[cosmic island]

Is it bad to buy a psu with 500w more than you need

[lyric thistle]

no

[potent portal]

No, the system will only pull what it needs

[earnest olive]

evga put a 1 year warranty on straight up used stuff as well as refurbs

[earnest olive]

only if it's at an excessive price

I cringe when I see people buy a $200 1000w psu for their otherwise $700 PC that draws 250w peak for "future proofing"

[cosmic island]

Idk why the 750w is $40 more than the 850w

on amazon

[potent portal]

scalpers Third party sellers usually

[cosmic island]

Corsair SF850L Fully Modular Low-Noise SFX Power Supply - ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 Compliant - Quiet 120mm PWM Fan - 80 Plus Gold Efficiency - Zero RPM Mode - 105°C-Rated Capacitors - Black https://a.co/d/92jL03i

Was looking at this one if I dont buy the refurbished

[potent portal]

Yeah that looks like the next best option right now

SFX units are pricy

[cosmic island]

Yeah that's what I see alot of people say.

Thanks for the help guys😃

[naive latch]

sorry i touched a cord and all my fans stopped working

i have it plugged in do i need to flash before i lauch or do i lauch bios first

[south cliff]

Is the 7900xtx better than the 4080?

[cyan ravine]

yes

objectively speaking for the normal consumer

but when the 4080 is $828

it's way better

[south cliff]

Yeah the 7900xtx with tax is like 975 the 4080 with tax was 877

[cyan ravine]

that's not even a contest

4080 is better

but otherwise the XTX would be both cheaper and better than the 4080/S

[south cliff]

Did the super version just come out?

[cyan ravine]

ye

2% improvement

[south cliff]

How much more?

[cyan ravine]

$1000 msrp

[south cliff]

Better than the 4080 msrp I guess

[cyan ravine]

way better

[south cliff]

Everything should come next week

But gpu

[potent portal]

I fell asleep early last night, sorry.
It varies by motherboard. Some of them you press the flash button while it's off (but power supply is on) and others you press the power button and then the flash button. My motherboard turned out to be the latter, which is not mentioned in any guide I saw including the video from MSI.

I know of at least one recent gigabyte board that does need you to power it on first so try that first.

[naive latch]

Your good what you told me to do worked I just had to put the motherboard update on a different flash drive

[potent portal]

Sometimes it can get picky for no apparent reason about the flash drive

[limber oyster]

I want a Strix 3080 to replace my dual 3060

[formal girder]

And I want a 4070 to replace my Strix 3080

[mossy venture]

You value power efficiency and temps I'm assuming?

Since ~4070=3080

[limber oyster]

I'd do 4080 just so its an "upgrade"

[mossy venture]

???

[limber oyster]

???

[dusky hearth]

???

[crimson relic]

Yo guys i was looking to upgrade to 32gb of ram. I alr have 16, and it would be like 40$ cheaper to just get another 16 instead of two new 16gb sticks. Would i be better off performance wise getting two new 32gb sticks? Is there a performance difference for 4 sticks vs 2 is what im asking?

[potent portal]

There's a fair chance that just adding another 2 sticks will simply not work, because the different memory dies don't get along.

[crimson relic]

wym

could i not just get identical sticks

[potent portal]

The same model sticks can use several different dies

Especially if it's rated for 3200 c16

[crimson relic]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4RPpDZ

this is my current build

what google says is it depends on the mobo though

[potent portal]

Yeah that team group 3200 kit could be any one of 8 different dies

[crimson relic]

oh ok, so why does that not work? just curious

[potent portal]

The memory controller gets confused with the different timings that each stick is calling for and fails to map the memory properly

[crimson relic]

so even if all 4 were 3200 and cl16

[potent portal]

Even if they have the same main xmp timings, if it's a different die then it can have different base speed and timings

[crimson relic]

oh ok, so i have to buy 2 sticks of 16?

[potent portal]

Some sticks will run at a base speed of 2333 c24 while others will have a base of 2933 c30 for example

The best option that will 100% work is to get a kit of 2x 16GB sticks

[crimson relic]

alr that sucks bc i wanted to upgrade my gpu as well. 5700xt isnt very good anymore

[potent portal]

You can sell the old memory to make up some of the cost

[crimson relic]

yea idk how much i would even get for used 16gb tho

prolly not much

[potent portal]

About $30

on ebay

[crimson relic]

Yea i will prolly do that. I still have a psu mobo and case to sell as well

[forest lava]

My PC is just a bag of problems

Does anyone know why a strange buzzing noise happens from my PC whenever an animation happens on screen?

It's specifically in sync with any animations

Like highlighting text by drag clicking will make the buzz happen in the intervals that I highlight text

I noticed it when I opened and closed a drop list during a job application and the buzzing happened for exactly the duration of the animation

And now with youtube it's constant

[mossy venture]

sounds like coil whine

either gpu or psu typically

[little osprey]

Can anyone provide me with a good ethernet? Cat 8? 50+ feet? through amazon preferably

[mossy venture]

@potent portal is cat 5e ethernet worse than wifi 6 wifi?

I found it and my wifi is being funky but the only one we have is 5e

[weary galleon]

5e is pretty good

Supports gigabit I think?

[analog hearth]

yes

[potent portal]

You can do 1Gb over 5e, and the latency will always be better than WiFi

[lyric scarab]

Can someone review this for a friend? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BF3CkJ

[cyan ravine]

new or existing

@lyric scarab

[lyric scarab]

New

[cyan ravine]

Ok

[lyric scarab]

They are building a pc

[cyan ravine]

is this a gaming pc or a work pc

I'm guessing the former

@lyric scarab
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/QtdCkJ

not done yet

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/RVP6dH

one of these two would be better

[lyric scarab]

Thanks @cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

np

it took me longer than usual as I don't normally do aussie lists lol

there are alternatives as well

[lyric scarab]

I usually would do this myself but being lazy rn

[cyan ravine]

AM5 mobo - MSI gaming wifi b650m

[lyric scarab]

[cyan ravine]

Asus tuf bronze 750w

[lyric scarab]

Yah

[cyan ravine]

lot of good cases rn

Actually

@lyric scarab

the intel list is just plain better

I didn't realise how close in price they are

[lyric scarab]

Ahhh

@cyan ravine okay they said they are doing work and rendering

They also prefer a Ryzen 9

[cyan ravine]

The 12600KF is almost as good in multicore as the ryzen 9

the 5900x

don't buy a 5900x new in 2024

if he wants that he can buy it from me 😂

not worth it brand new

but rendering they'll want nvidia

[lyric scarab]

Can you edit the list if you don't mind?

[mossy venture]

Felix question

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare

Is this inaccurate, or does 7600 just barely lose in multi core

And basically tied in single core

[cyan ravine]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rX7PN6

can't physically do better

wait I can

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jd7PN6

better case

[mossy venture]

Could also do a 7700
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/fjMppB

Or a 13600k/14600k. All three of these outmatch the 5900x by far all around.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/J4TWCd

[cyan ravine]

better multicore than the 5900x

[lyric scarab]

Ahh

[cyan ravine]

but the problem with the the 14th gen

he needs to ask the store to update the motherboard bios

which

and I will QUOTE THIS

is a $20 job

[mossy venture]

Buy a pentium, flash bios, return it

[cyan ravine]

but have him ask centrecom to do it

no we have restock fees here

don't

[mossy venture]

Oh rip

[cyan ravine]

just get the store to update it

they'll do it for under 50 for sure

[lyric scarab]

A bios flash would be decent via the store cuz I doubt he knows to do it on his own

[cyan ravine]

that's the issue

for cheap good boards

no bios flash unfortunately

[lyric scarab]

Wdym

It doesn't allow you to flash them?

[cyan ravine]

no bios flash on the cheap boards, you need to install a cpu

[lyric scarab]

Oh oh

[cyan ravine]

14th gen has this issue that it won't really work

lol

there's the ds3h at this tier

but for 14th gen K?

no

better to just get him to update the current board

then he has a psuedo z790

[lyric scarab]

Ah

Thanks maneeeeee

[cyan ravine]

all good

can't wait for zluda to be mainstream so I can stop suggesting 4070 Ti

lol

[cyan ravine]

no it's kinda true

sorry just saw that

[dusky hearth]

nobody needs cat8
also do you mind terminating the cables yourself, it would be alot cheaper if you're doing alot of runs
or if you're in canada or america, you could either buy from infinitecables or like cablesupply

[cyan ravine]

the issue lies in that most workstation tasks favour intel, but yes, the AM5 counterpart is comparable

in this case with the 7600 definitely so

since it's rendering and production work

[dusky hearth]

can do over 1gig over cat5e tbf
you can easily do 2.5gig in most circumstances, and even technically 10g in very little circumstances

though not many people are going to be doing 10 gigabit LANs

overkill for 99.9% of home users

[potent portal]

If it's a short run yeah it can do more. The spec is for the max distance run.

[dusky hearth]

true

but idk what home use would have max distance runs of any networking cable lol

maybe from the house to a shed

actually that was a use my friend had; though he didnt want to trench to bury a cable from his house to his shed (he lives on a farm) so i believe he uses wireless uhhh

forgot what that tech was, but it's similar to what linus did between the buildings

not nearly as expensive though lol

[vague oracle]

Intel #1 smh

[dusky hearth]

for reference, unless you need to be carrying over 40gigabit signals, there is no reason for you to use category 8 cables lol

[potent portal]

I did something similar to that years ago but just standard wireless routers because the tech wasn't widespread enough for consumer use. It was my college buddy's dad's house in the middle of nowhere. He had a satellite Internet connection but it terminated in the barn, and he also had concrete walls. Most of the network was PoE wired between APs but the convention to the barn was wireless.

[cyan ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816657081461506108/1212579365775478834/Screenshot_2024-02-28_at_5.56.43_PM.png?ex=65f25989&is=65dfe489&hm=fc19236a7cf3bfac8c91dfcde044ff82d7a3adee5449b9a7022a1e2eb37e2aaa&

[dusky hearth]

i think my friend did that same ish thing
did you use omnidirectional antennas, or did you use some sort of directional antenna
would probably would be pretty inefficent with omnidirectional, especially with the FSPL

and also because his house is out in the middle of bum-f nowhere, he uses a celluar modem as his internet access lmao

which basically consists of a m.2 (usb 3.0) celluar modem module, a very long usb cable, and a bananapi router

[potent portal]

It was directional outdoor antennas

High gain

[dusky hearth]

i could only imagine how much wattage would be required to send RF over long distances with an omnidirectional antenna for that much distance lmao

im too lazy to calculate it at least lmao

though i should probably practice since im also studying for CWNA

[manic cloak]

should I try getting the 7900 GRE?

[cyan ravine]

no

you got your cashback omg

don't hurt yourself again

[manic cloak]

well..

you think about it/

If I return my card, I earn 76$..

[cyan ravine]

if they don't refund the cashback

which in a morally correct situation, wouldn't happen

[manic cloak]

they certainly didn't do anything when i got my card RMA'd

so I doubt they'd do that

plus I could wait till next tuesday for a possible triple cashback tuesday.. 😏

[cyan ravine]

as far as value for money the 7800xt is better

unless you have vramlet syndrome

[manic cloak]

I don't have issues with VRAM rn

[cyan ravine]

yea you shouldn't

[manic cloak]

I only have vram issues when I try launching roblox studio though 😔

[cyan ravine]

I think the GRE is better over the 7800xt only when you engage in overclocking

and that's the big issue

OC is still here nor there on AMD

but the GRE should show tremendous scaling with OC

I'd honestly just stick with the 7800xt

sounds like way too much effort for arguably the same value +-5%

[manic cloak]

argafgaafoflgdas'gdjqwj;/fpiqw

the urge to upgrade is crazy

[cyan ravine]

I predict microsoft giving you a part 2 of problems if you return it 😂

I just simply

on that point alone

I would leave it

[manic cloak]

what if

I started

[potent portal]

It's not significantly better than what you have

[cyan ravine]

Sky

[manic cloak]

making money on

[cyan ravine]

are you a masochist

[manic cloak]

:(

[cyan ravine]

[rain carbon]

Just screw microsoft tbh

[manic cloak]

no I wanna mess over microsoft

[rain carbon]

Idec about specs and what not

Microsoft is dookie fr

[manic cloak]

It really is

but what if I just kept doing triple cashback tuesday

got cashback, returned the card

[cyan ravine]

if you get caught they'll charge it all back

[manic cloak]

true

but I wouldn't use the same account

or address

[cyan ravine]

if you want to flip cards that's not the way to do it

[rain carbon]

Just dont get caught

Ez

[cyan ravine]

lol

[manic cloak]

Plus idk why but my location says im in Iowa

[rain carbon]

Doesnt matter how many cookies you steal from the cookie jar if your mom cant count

Just take advantage of it

[manic cloak]

phone, ipad, computer, etc

[potent portal]

Is this the point where I have to remind people that fraud is illegal and we cannot condone that conduct

[manic cloak]

even if I use my 5G

[cyan ravine]

When newegg tries to explain white collar crime:

[rain carbon]

Fair point

Fraud is, in most cases, probably illegal

[manic cloak]

Well you gotta remember that this is all plotting, were not openly admitting to fraud (not yet atleast 🤫)

[cyan ravine]

man that is a textbook businessman response

only most cases

lmfao

Well that was a good laugh, I'll bbl

[manic cloak]

bye bye 🤫 🧏

[leaden mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/mog-mogged-looksmaxxing-pilot-gforce-gif-11367779667686026360

[manic cloak]

go to sleep jjk leaks in like, 6 hours

[leaden mauve]

yea ik

i aint staying awake for that

[rain carbon]

Wait really?

[manic cloak]

I saw the post

[rain carbon]

Ew i hate leaks

[leaden mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-your-tone-sukuna-jjk-gif-8217394051526922847

[manic cloak]

and he said EXACTLY 14 hours or exactly 21 hours

I was like damn

Japan really cracking down

[manic cloak]

Fraud

Fraud

[leaden mauve]

oh some leaks came out

[severe dove]

Lexar NM710 or Solidigm™ P41 Plus? There is ~$40 difference betwene their prices 2TB.

[dusky hearth]

which one is $40 more

well, i'm assuming its the lexar one

the lexar has higher R/W by quite a fair bit

is it worth a $40 difference though... i'm not sure

[severe dove]

p41 plus is more expensive

[dusky hearth]

oh then get the lexar

[severe dove]

alr ty

[dusky hearth]

it's higher end than the p41 plus

[vagrant thistle]

Is anyone good at tutoring someone to build a pc irl like what to do etc

[crimson zinc]

https://youtu.be/PXaLc9AYIcg?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/BL4DCEp7blY?feature=shared

[vagrant thistle]

Dawg na don’t do this I need real time tutoring

I’ll even pay you

Just videos stress me out cause like I can’t ask questions just in case I’m doing it wrong

[crimson zinc]

You might want to ask a techie.

Someone like Felix, Hay, Bacca, or maybe even falcie?

[cyan ravine]

I don't do handholding for pc builds

That second vid is like a whole encyclopaedia, it will literally answer almost every single question you could possibly have

If learning how to do this is too scary, get a friend who knows how to do it for a 50

It's quite literally lego for adults. It's made to be easily put together

Like a camping tent, or a desk that is definitely not from IKEA

[flint sapphire]

i handhold

[late fjord]

Trial and error is the best teacher 😎

I started off upgrading prebuilt dells and hps etc when I was younger. Eventually did my own build from scratch.

[weary galleon]

If it makes you feel better, it's fairly hard to do something "wrong". It's not like building a circuit from scratch, you kinda just put all the pieces into their respective places.

[sage widget]

Hi idk where to ask this so im just going to put it here. I currently have a AMD Ryzen 3 2300X CPU with a AMD Radeon RX 6600 GPU and after doing little research I apparently have a 40% bottleneck. I am getting fairly poor performance on games like helldivers 2 and was wondering if i should upgrade my CPU to increase FPS and graphics quality. I dont know how much the bottleneck is actually affecting all this so i really want to hear anybodys opinions/recommendations on what I should do. thank you

[dusky hearth]

i'd recommend going to something like a ryzen 7 5700x3d or something like that

though if your mobo or psu can't handle it, you might want something with a bit less power perhaps

also make sure your mobo supports 5000 series; it should, at least if it's a custom built system

[mossy venture]

Yes you should upgrade your cpu, but don't trust bottleneck calculators

Theyre ass

[dusky hearth]

oem pcs might not have the bios support

[mossy venture]

And very inaccurate

But yes upgrading your cpu would allow higher fps

Higher graphics, no

[dusky hearth]

also yeah bottleneck calculators are only good for like, the specific app, and you might as well try to run the app to see how much you bottleneck

[mossy venture]

A better gpu would mean better graphics

[sage widget]

what do you think about a Ryzen 5 3600

[weary galleon]

I'd probably do a 5600 at a minimum

Leaves more room for a gpu upgrade later

[dusky hearth]

^

unless you get it for free, i honestly would rather you buy a lower end 5000 series than a better 3000 series because 5000 series has much better single core than 3000 series

more important for you since you're gaming

[weary galleon]

I saw some noticeable gains from 3600->5600x

[mossy venture]

What country are you in?

And what motherboard do you have?

[sage widget]

north america

[mossy venture]

Also what ram do you have?

US?

Prices vary a lot per country

[sage widget]

ill just send a ss of my specs for you

[dusky hearth]

north america isnt a country LMFAO

[mossy venture]

^

[sage widget]

ok look

uhhh nvm 1 sec

[mossy venture]

You can dm me it

[vagrant thistle]

yooo

I need major help

[vagrant thistle]

What do I connect after I did the motherboard

Motherboards already connected to the case

[weary galleon]

cpu into the socket, nvme SSD into its slot (if you have one) ,ram sticks into their slots, cpu cooler, gpu into pcie slot

[vagrant thistle]

Yes

No I haven’t done the cooler

[weary galleon]

then you'll need to plug in a couple PSU power connectors to the motherboard, and one into the gpu

[vagrant thistle]

Bra

Can u join vc I don’t understand

[weary galleon]

kinda busy, sorry. I'd recommend a youtube video, the one by Linus Tech tips is pretty good

[vagrant thistle]

This all I’ve done

Bra Alr

[potent portal]

Next I would plug in the 8 pin CPU power on the top left (the extra 4 pins are optional)

Then the CPU cooler and 24 pin cable

[mossy venture]

Really? I always did psu last

Or at least right before cooler

[potent portal]

At least the cables, if not the whole psu

[weary galleon]

sometimes it's hard to reach up there past a cpu cooler I suppose

[mossy venture]

Just follow a YouTube tutorial

Robeytech has a good one

[potent portal]

https://youtu.be/BL4DCEp7blY?si=e1-JTZieUd5VGhst

[weary galleon]

tbh most build tutorials are pretty good (except the Verge's)

[vagrant thistle]

U mind if I send u pictures and u like tell me what to do next

I’ll pay you 20 like I legit need help I’m lost

And like the tutorials ain’t helping me idk

[dusky hearth]

🗿

why you building a pc if even a video doesnt help 😭

you could have easily paid someone $100 to build the pc for you considering the parts that you bought

also you didnt push in the left ram stick all the way in

[weary galleon]

DM'd

[crimson zinc]

I have a request for a friend.

[mossy venture]

whats up?

[crimson zinc]

As portable as possible.
(But as powerful as his ps5)

[mossy venture]

budget?

[cyan ravine]

That's gonna be like

3700/5600 ryzen

6700 radeon

16gb memory

512gb ssd (gen 4 for ryzen 5k)

Itx board (a520i)

Smallest case you can find and an apevia prestige

[mossy venture]

depends on budget

[cyan ravine]

I mean as portable as possible

[crimson zinc]

Try like $600.

[mossy venture]

oof

used ok?

[potent portal]

A750 time

[crimson zinc]

Yes

As used as possible(eBay)

[potent portal]

5600+B450+A750+used everything else too should come in around $500-600

Or the crazy route https://www.newegg.com/p/2SW-002G-000G5

GPU isn't as strong as the PS5 but upscaled you'll hardly notice

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sdvjCd

whatever used gpu fits

the mobo price is a guesstimate

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VtrvcH

[potent portal]

Amazing what you can do these days with a low budget

[crimson zinc]

For real

[mossy venture]

214xt isnt needed, but ye

figured itx would be preffered

also idk why but i saw 500 not 600

good list

[potent portal]

If portability is key ITX is the way to go

[crimson zinc]

I forgot that it comes with a default fan

[mossy venture]

id say that core v1 or ridge 4.0

[crimson zinc]

WAIF

[mossy venture]

for case

[crimson zinc]

I DID GOOD FIRST TRY?

[mossy venture]

there's some minor things id change but overall it's great

[cyan ravine]

Baseline
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rq7R6D

[mossy venture]

bit more expensive than the one you did, but https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NZrvcH