building-and-recc-chat

[fading iris]

As long as not updating isn't harming me or bringing down performance IDC to update

Just don't want it to be a risk yknow

Thx both of u

[obsidian wigeon]

If anything patches could reduce perf

[frigid night]

^

[fading iris]

Also is this correct

[obsidian wigeon]

Since it's sometimes an architectural flaw

[fading iris]

Wdym

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes, and ethernet or wifi drivers

[fading iris]

Even if I have a wifi board?

[frigid night]

I'd download both of them just to have them. That way you can swap between the 2 at any moment you need to.

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[bronze oasis]

@frigid night Should i still be waiting for the computer to figure itself out? sry dont mean to cut in haha

[fading iris]

But do I need the wifi driver even if my motherboard has wifi and is a wifi board

[obsidian wigeon]

Drivers are not automatically installed

yes

[fading iris]

Or r u saying incase I wanna switch to Ethernet cable to do it just kncade

[frigid night]

Wait a tad longer. Are any LED lights on?

[fading iris]

Invade*

[frigid night]

correct.

[fading iris]

Wait both of u said diff answers it feels like

[bronze oasis]

the CPU light

[fading iris]

I won't be switching to Ethernet or wired wifi at all so do I need the wifi driver ?

[frigid night]

We both aggreed to downloading and installing both drivers.

[fading iris]

But what if I know I'm not gonna switch

[frigid night]

What you know you may or may not do, might change in the future.

[fading iris]

Sorry I'm wording things weird what I'm tryna say is to use the wifi on board that comes with it r the drivers required

[frigid night]

Drivers are small and easy to install, so I see no real reason not to.

[fading iris]

True which is why I won't mine downloading them since it won't do any harm just wanna know if I will need to interact with it to have wifi

Mind*

[frigid night]

Plus, having several ways to try and troubleshoot problems helps immensly.

[frigid night]

I don't understand this question.

[obsidian wigeon]

I always have a package of drivers for my pc

[frigid night]

^

[obsidian wigeon]

For when I need to reinstall stuff

[fading iris]

What I'm tryna say is because I have a wifi board I know you r suggesting the wifi drivers as a backup. But if I have a wifi board will it not work without the wifi drivers

[frigid night]

You need the WIFI drivers to use Wifi

[fading iris]

I'm gonna download wifi drivers regardless but I just wanna know will I have to open it and fiddle with it just to have wifi or r u only saying it for future

Ok thx

[frigid night]

You need the ethernet drivers to use wired

[fading iris]

R they hard to work with cause I only choose a motherboard that comes with wifi as a ez route

[frigid night]

A board with only WIFI? I imagine it also has ethernet.

[fading iris]

And wouldn't it be in same set or drivers that my motherboard drivers ?

It prob does but not messing with that ATM lol even tho I have heard it isn't hard

[frigid night]

Ethernet is so much easier than Wifi. You plug one end of a cable into your PC and then plug the other end into your modem/router.

Much less chance of something going funky. Wifi you have to connect to with a password as well as figure out the best placement for your antenae to get the best possible signal.

Then you have to worry about other things interfering with that signal.

[fading iris]

Don't have a router near me. I know I could just get a long one for like 20 bucks but too much of a hassle

If it rlly comes down to my wifi having issues I could spend slight time n just switch to Ethernet

[frigid night]

@bronze oasis Got an update with how your PC is doing?

[bronze oasis]

just checked a few moments ago. CPU LED still red

[frigid night]

Alright, give me a moment.,

[bronze oasis]

no problem!

[fading iris]

Quick question again mb

Will the wifi for the motherboard have same driver as just wifi driver

Because I found driver for motherboard but idk if I will need a completely diff one and if it would be same

[frigid night]

@obsidian wigeon Maybe you can help.

Brand new build. All new parts. Wouldnt post. Ryzen 7800x3d/DDR5. B650 GAMING X AX V2. MAG A750GL PCIE5 PSU. I am not sure of the GPU atm. We reseated every cable/RAM/GPU/CPU/COOLER. Essentially rebuilt the PC. We got post. Tried to install windows using a USB drive, but something borked somewhere and BIOS said a boot failed and gave options to reset to best bios config.. However, he was not able to actually select any options. We reset CMOS and it's been 15 - 20 minutes (long enough to retrain DDR5) with no boot and a red LED stuck on the CPU debug.

I want to say the next step would be to try a BIOS update, but I also want to avoid that if at all possible. Maybe you have an idea of what the issue could be?

I assume that the safe boot being enabled caused the USB storage boot to fail, but we can't seem to get back into the BIOS to change that.

[bronze oasis]

GPU is Radeon RX 7600 XT^

[obsidian wigeon]

what ram

[frigid night]

@bronze oasis

[obsidian wigeon]

also bios update helps with no boot

especially with certain kits

[frigid night]

Alright that makes sense.

I just wanted to make sure I was heading in the right direction with my troubleshooting.

Been a long while since I've been here to help anyone 😛

[bronze oasis]

RAM is flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 CL32 Dual Channel

@obsidian wigeon

[fading iris]

No need to answer right now since y'all r dealing with this but for my GPU drivers will I need to directly get it from the company that made my GPU or would any one do. For example the GPU I have is a sapphire pure amd Radeon RX 7800xt so would a regular 7800xt driver do or would I specifically need one from sapphire pure. Secondly I found driver for motherboard but couldn't find wifi driver so would any wifi driver do or would I just need the motherboard driver n that would have both if that made sense

[weary galleon]

For gpu, the drivers are from AMD, not sapphire or whoever made the card

[fading iris]

Ok thank you

[weary galleon]

For Wifi, not completely sure since I don't have boards with it

[frigid night]

Looks like it's supported. Let's get your BIOS updated. Remember that other flash drive I asked about?

We are gonna need that.

[weary galleon]

Not sure but for Wifi Might be in the main motherboard driver or you might have to find what wifi chip the board has and get that driver (likely made by Intel)

[bronze oasis]

yep!!

I have the MS installation software on my one flash drive, should i transfer to the other

?

[frigid night]

Nope.

Download this file and transfer it to the empty USB

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/BIOS/mb_bios_b650-gaming-x-ax-v2_8arpl250_f4b.zip?v=4c8048a13d8af6b0d684ff617fe0258a

[bronze oasis]

ok, now am i downloading this to the USB with the MS software, then transferring it to the other one?

[frigid night]

No

You just need to download the file and put it on the empty flash drive

[bronze oasis]

ok

[frigid night]

You'll rename the file to exactly this - - - GIGABYTE.bin

has to be all caps

[bronze oasis]

Ok

[fading iris]

That's what I'm confused Abt lol because I feel like they would probably make it easier to just include in whole motherboard driver and haven't seen any people mention finding wifi chip and only heard about motherboard drivers in general

[bronze oasis]

so its “- - - GIGABYTE.bin”?

[frigid night]

no

you don't need the - - -

[bronze oasis]

ok just making sure thank you

[frigid night]

😛

@bronze oasis the file you want to rename is

Keep everything else the same

[bronze oasis]

Ok, i found the file from your link

It is a zip file, i put that zip file in the empty usb

do i extract it in the usb?

@frigid night

[frigid night]

Yeah extract the whole file to the USB and then rename the one file I sent a pic of

[bronze oasis]

Yep perfect

Oh it was only that file😂 nice

wait i lied

multiple files, do i keep or delete them?

i do see the F4b fule

file

ill rename this like u said

[frigid night]

You want that whole folder on the USB drive

[bronze oasis]

Got it

ok question

that is a .F4b file

am i changing the file type to .bin, or am i keeping that file type as .F4b

so then the name would be “GIGABYTE.bin.F4b”

[frigid night]

When you rename the file to GIGABYTE.bin, it should change the file type automatically.

[bronze oasis]

ok

ill try it

ok i changed it

it is a BIN file now

I have the rest of the files, as well as the zipped folder on the USB at the moment

@frigid night

[frigid night]

You can delete the zipped folder. Idk if keeping it on there will mess with anything.

So best to just remove it.

[bronze oasis]

done!

[frigid night]

We are working with BIOS so we want to be as safe as we can be.

[bronze oasis]

absolutely

[frigid night]

Alright with your new PC off (keep the PSU switch on) plug the BIOS usb into the back of your PC where it's labeled BIOS USB

[bronze oasis]

one moment

ok, im gonna have to turnn the PC off by turning the PSU off

i cant turn it off by pressing the front switch

@frigid night

[frigid night]

That's fine. Switch the PSU off, wait a few seconds then switch back on

[bronze oasis]

ok, switched it back on and then put the USB in

[frigid night]

ok with the PC off

There is a small little button below the usb port you plugged the storage into

press that button once

[bronze oasis]

Is it called Q-flash

[frigid night]

Yep

[bronze oasis]

Nice ok

i think i gotta use something to press it

should make a clicking noise right

[frigid night]

We call it Flashback. This a feature we like to have on our mobo as it allows us to completely reset our BIOS in the event something majorly bad happens. Like Corruption

[frigid night]

different mobos will have different buttons. With Gigabyte, I'm not sure if it'll click

You should know right away though if it's working. Lights should start blinking

[bronze oasis]

Ok then i def didnt click it

ok yep clicked it and the computer turned on

[frigid night]

ok now leave it

The back where you pressed the button should have a blinking red light

[bronze oasis]

I dont see anything blinking

[frigid night]

Hm

[bronze oasis]

Its as if i pressed the front power button, fans are on, CPU LED is solid red

[frigid night]

Ok, can you send me the link to the exact motherboard you have?

Do you love building PCs yet? 😂

[bronze oasis]

Hahahahahha ya know im surprised my patience has lasted this long😂😂😂

[frigid night]

Once we get it up and running, it'll all be in the past. Also, on the brightside.. having to do all this troubleshooting will make you much more prepared in the future should you ever build another PC.

[bronze oasis]

https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?N=&cat=&ntt=660753

@frigid night

are you looking for a PDF?

[frigid night]

nope

I'm looking to see if I grabbed the right BIOS file

[bronze oasis]

Yeah thats what i was saying to my one friend, i was like yea i coulda paid $200 to have then build it for me but if something broke i would have been in trouble. also the point of building my own PC is this more or less lol

[frigid night]

You went the right route for sure.

[bronze oasis]

I looked up the motherboard by SKU on microcenter

just ftr

[frigid night]

Ok so lets try this.

Turn off the PC. Unplug the BIOS storage. Go to your other PC that you've been working with. The file that you renamed. Pull it to the root of the USB drive and then delete the folder.

So you'll want the file in the same place on the USB that the folder currently is.

Have I mentioned I dislike working with BIOS? 😛

[bronze oasis]

Nope haha but im getting the vibes now

[frigid night]

There are specific ways that each manufacture likes their BIOS files to be organized and for myself, I can never remember exactly which way they like it.

I do know that the file has to be named what it is because the BIOS itself doesn't have the memory capacity to store other file names. Plus makes it a lot simpler for the BIOS to locate and use that file.

[bronze oasis]

I am learning a lot today hahahahah

i really appreciate your help

[frigid night]

It's no problem. I found that a lot of people either never learn much when they build their PC or they end up learning a whole lot lol

[bronze oasis]

Glad im on that “a whole lot side” haha

The USB is in the computer now and i see the file i named

it appears that is at the root , i think?

[frigid night]

Personally, I find that having issues when building your first PC is what will make you feel so much more accomplished once it's up and running

[frigid night]

take a pic?

[potent portal]

The USB is FAT32 formatted right?

[frigid night]

Ooof

I totally forgot.

[bronze oasis]

How can i check that?

[frigid night]

Thank you fal

[potent portal]

That's the default for 16GB or less drives, and many 32GB. Larger might ship with exFAT.

[potent portal]

Right click the drive in "this pc" and go to properties

[bronze oasis]

ok will do give me just a min

@frigid night

[frigid night]

Damn. That USB drive is FAT

[bronze oasis]

is it FAT32 formatted @potent portal

its an 8GB drive

[frigid night]

You'll have to check it's properties

[potent portal]

Perfect

[bronze oasis]

oh sorry

[frigid night]

Hm. Do you know if he should just have the GIGABYTE.bin on the drive when using qflash plus?

[bronze oasis]

@frigid night i meant it is* FAT32

[potent portal]

Sometimes it can take a few tries to get it to flash, and sometimes the programmer doesn't like specific drives because it looked at it funny

Oh and it needs to be in the correct USB port

[frigid night]

Yeah

We've tried once so far and no blinky lights came on. The PC did start though. So @bronze oasis let's give it another go shall we?

[bronze oasis]

Why nit

not

Wanted to verify that my files are at the root of the drive @frigid night

is that where they should be?

[potent portal]

yes

[bronze oasis]

based on that pic i sent

ok awesome ty Fal

one moment

ok starting with the PSU off

am i plugging the USB with GIGABYTE.bin file into the BIOS USB slotv

[frigid night]

Yes

[bronze oasis]

awesome ty

now i press the Q flash button?

[frigid night]

Did you turn the PSU back on? If so then yes

[potent portal]

Press and hold for a few seconds

[bronze oasis]

Ok i did not but ill turn it on, wait a few seconds then press the qflash button

I pressed it, fans are on, CPU light is on

red led cpu

[potent portal]

The system tried to turn on when you turned the power on?

[bronze oasis]

No

monitor and peripherals arent on

[potent portal]

Right they wouldn't be if it didn't complete the POST process

But nothing is supposed to turn on when you press the flash button

[frigid night]

It seems that with this mobo that it does.

[bronze oasis]

Does this mean i should sit tight for a bit as the mobo configures itself?

[frigid night]

for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-ibypSvrno

[frigid night]

Is the button on the back flashing red?

That's what we are trying to achieve. The blinking red light means that it would be flashing the BIOS. If no light then it's not working.

[bronze oasis]

It is not

[potent portal]

No red light on the back of the motherboard?

[bronze oasis]

i mean its hard to see any other light w flash but if it was blinking id def notice

[potent portal]

Alright, shut it off and try again. Watch for that light. If it stays solid and then turns off then it failed.

[bronze oasis]

The q flash light youre saying?

[frigid night]

@potent portal So you can catch up on what the issue was and what we've done and where we are at now.

[potent portal]

With boards like these you don't need to worry about corrupting the bios by turning it off since you have the integrated bios programmer (q flash plus).
Yes the light would come from near the q flash button

[bronze oasis]

ok so even if its not directly behind the light i should def see it

so ill go through the process again and press the q flash button

CPU led still red, fans are in thats it. ill keep repeating this process?

[potent portal]

You can try clearing cmos and then try again to flash

Sometimes that helps

[frigid night]

clearing cmos again?

[potent portal]

Are we sure we got the right bios file? I see a couple different versions of this motherboard

[frigid night]

I could only find the 1 V2

I thought maybe I got the wrong BIOS version as well.

[bronze oasis]

I do have the V2 version

[potent portal]

Ok if we're sure it's the v2 there's only one for that

[bronze oasis]

It is this one: https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?N=&cat=&ntt=660753

would it make sense to clear the CMOS?

[frigid night]

In normal cases, I'd say yes, but we just did that before trying to flash the BIOS

[potent portal]

Clearing cmos is another thing that can take a few tries too

[bronze oasis]

So we might not actually know @frigid night if i did clear the CMOS when i did the trick w the screwdriver

At least I dont know hahaha

[potent portal]

At least there's a jumper by the front panel connectors so it's easy to get to

Yeah there's really no way to tell if it cleared without going to bios

[bronze oasis]

Lovely😂😂

[frigid night]

I've never experienced resetting cmos multiple times. It's always worked on the first try for me with the steps I use that I had you do.

I didn't know that it could fail.

[bronze oasis]

Interesting.. ill say i took the coin battery out multiple times while working on the build and trying to start it yesterday

[potent portal]

It's less common on newer boards to need to try multiple times but not unheard of

My X570 took a couple tries once

[bronze oasis]

i got it

@potent portal @frigid night

its now blinking

CPU LED still red

[frigid night]

Awesome. Let it sit there and blink

Once it's done blinking or goes off, it's done. Either your PC will boot into BIOS or you'll have to turn PC off and then back on.

[bronze oasis]

And if i turn it off and back on it should boot immediately?

[frigid night]

Since it has a new bios it will try and train your DDR5 again.

[bronze oasis]

Ok so ill wait a little

Now, i have the other USB with windows. When is the appropriate time to out that USB in the slot?

[frigid night]

We will want to disable Safe Boot in the BIOS once we can get in there.

[bronze oasis]

Ok ill keep you posted

man i wish i notified you in here before i just shut off my PC and tried to restart

Comes w experience haha oh well

[frigid night]

It may not have been anything you did. It may be that this particular mobo needs to be updated because the early BIOS were unstable.

[bronze oasis]

Fun is over i guess, blinking stopped and it did not boot

wait

DRAM LED is on so i think its like you said, its training the DDR5?

[frigid night]

I believe so

[potent portal]

The default secure boot state after clearing cmos or updating bios will be "setup" mode which will allow you to boot from the USB until the OS can signal the UEFI that it's installed.

[frigid night]

ah gotcha

I know that in the past, I've had to manually disable secure boot on the brand new mobos I've built with. Otherwise it wouldn't let me install windows

[potent portal]

Modern boards know what to do, and Windows is smarter about it too

[frigid night]

Hm. Tell that to my strix 790 lol

[potent portal]

Well that's just Asus then

[frigid night]

I knew that was coming haha

[severe hull]

Good evening all. Installing water cooler with led screen I have two questions. Led plug off the screen im assuming goes to led cpu on mob. Does the direction matter since the plug has one missing ? Also the USB plug it's 10 pin it says plug into a USB 2.0 but I don't have one all I see it f_usb1

[potent portal]

Riding on their rep as a luxury brand but they're just mid with luxury pricing now

[frigid night]

I feel attacked

xD

Just kidding, I only wanted it because you know.. white

[potent portal]

F_USB1 should be your USB 2.0 spot

Pic 2 goes in D_LED

Pic 3 goes on F_USB

[severe hull]

Thank you !

[bronze oasis]

I may have asked this before a couple times, but at this point my CPU i think is training the DDR5 right? At what point does it say hey this DDR5 has been trained? Does it send out a signal? how do i know if it is done being trained?

Or from that point when the DDR5 is trainee, it should boot up afterwards?

[potent portal]

How much memory do you have?

Higher capacities take exponentially longer to train

[bronze oasis]

I believe i have 2 32GB of RAM

it could be 2 16GB of ram

i may be reading it wrong

[potent portal]

When it's done the debug lights will probably go to GPU/VGA for a second and then stick on Boot

[bronze oasis]

Flare X5 Series 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000 PCS-48000

[potent portal]

Ok 32GB total should take about 5 minutes to train on the first boot

[bronze oasis]

Where did you get 5 minutes from out of curiosity?

[potent portal]

Experience

[lone flame]

his big smart pc brain

[bronze oasis]

Haha. yeah just curious thats all

thank you

[bronze oasis]

I’m not sure if i have a boot LED on this mobo

i lied

its there

[potent portal]

Yes didn't you know? I'm the first AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) and we're capable of complex tasks we've never been trained on before. Humans will bow before me.

[bronze oasis]

and its on now lol

[lone flame]

i love a.i

how its ruined pc gaming prices

aka gpus

[frigid night]

Into the BIOS?

[potent portal]

Perfect, then it's waiting for a boot drive. You can hit the power button and turn it off, plug in the windows install USB, and turn it back on. It'll be able to skip the training this time using "fast boot".

[frigid night]

^

I'll let Fal take over xD

[lone flame]

omg its neo

havent seen you in ages it feels like

[potent portal]

If there's no signal on the monitor make sure the cable is plugged into the GPU and the monitor is on the correct input

[bronze oasis]

No unfortunately

[frigid night]

Last time we did that, his BIOS locked up which made us have to do the upgrade.

[bronze oasis]

the BOOT Led is on but no BIOS

wait wait

[bronze oasis]

i did not follow these directions just yet

i will now

[bronze oasis]

hit the power button as in the PSU switch? or the button on the front of the case?

[potent portal]

Case power button

[bronze oasis]

thank you

is there a specific USB port i should plug the windows install into? @potent portal

[potent portal]

Not really but it'll go faster in a 3.0 or faster port

[bronze oasis]

good to know

thank you

so i hit the front power button and it did not turn off @potent portal

[potent portal]

Hold it for a few seconds

[bronze oasis]

ok

still nothing

its still running

[potent portal]

Can you take a pic of the front panel connectors

[bronze oasis]

Sure

ill send a few

[potent portal]

I meant motherboard side

[bronze oasis]

this isnt good lol

oh

yes

[potent portal]

Sorry should have specified lol

[bronze oasis]

no worries hahaha

[desert plover]

what you guys doing

[bronze oasis]

are these the pics you were looking for? if i need to take better ones please lmk @potent portal

[potent portal]

Yes that's great

[potent portal]

Is that cable all the way in? Looks like it might be loose

[bronze oasis]

ill tighten it again to double check

I didnt feel anything move, its pretty pressed in there

[potent portal]

Ok you can reset using the button below the 24 pin cable

Third pic shows it

[bronze oasis]

yep, that white button?

[potent portal]

Yes

[bronze oasis]

got it, ill press it once

Ok i pressed it

[bronze oasis]

trying to figure out why my pc build is not booting!

[bronze oasis]

I didnt see anything different change, was i supposed to?

[potent portal]

Oh wait

I looked closer at the third pic and I can see the CPU light is on

[frigid night]

That's been our reoccuring issue.

We've reseated. We checked the pins.

Made sure all cables were seated fully as well

[bronze oasis]

But the light was just on BOOT. Would it have made a difference if i just turned the PSU power off instead of pressing the front button?

[potent portal]

Probably not

One thing you can try is booting with the minimum amount of things attached to the board

No SSD or SATA, no GPU (since the CPU has one built in)

[bronze oasis]

Could i then install those parts after boot?

is there another option that doesnt require me to take apart the build hahahhaha

[potent portal]

Not as of this moment

[bronze oasis]

ok ill try it then

So remove GPU and SSD? im using the M.2 for the SSD so i dont believe i need sata

[potent portal]

What I usually do is I'll do my first boot outside the case with the minimum like I said above and see if I can get to bios. Cardboard is non-conductive so the motherboard box works to set the motherboard on. The cooler can be set on top of the CPU and not mounted down this way too so it's easy to get to it and reseat if needed.

[potent portal]

Right

[bronze oasis]

Ok ill do that

give me a couple mins rq

i will be removing the USB drive w the GIGABYTE file as well

[potent portal]

ok

[bronze oasis]

ok SSD and GPU are out so ill try to boot again

[potent portal]

Have the video cable connected to the motherboard too

[bronze oasis]

the video cable being the cable from the PSU to the GPU?

[potent portal]

The HDMI or DP cable going to the monitor

[bronze oasis]

Got it, and that should stay plugged into the monitor?

[potent portal]

Yes

That way you can see if it shows anything on screen like error messages

[bronze oasis]

yep! makes sense

ok one min

turn power on via front case button correct? @potent portal

[potent portal]

Yes

[bronze oasis]

CPU LED is solid red, i dont see anything else going on atm

[potent portal]

Dang. Ok, clear the cmos again and plug the drive with that bios update file back in. Keep the rest the same and see if the bios comes up on screen after it trains. If it does you can check the current version and see if it actually updated, and run the updater from inside the bios screen if needed.

[bronze oasis]

clear the CMOS by jumping the two pins?

if im plugging the BIOS drive in, should i start the PC by using the Q flash or no? @potent portal

ok i ended up not doing a Q flash start, and its currently training the DDR5

[potent portal]

Had to make a phone call, but you're on the right track

[bronze oasis]

No problem! CPU led on red atm

[potent portal]

Nothing came on the screen at all? Well it was worth a try

I'm leaning towards a bad motherboard, or possibly bent CPU pins

[bronze oasis]

Yeah nothing unfortunately

ok, no problem. We did have the BOOT light though, id like to grt back to that again

[frigid night]

It could be possible, but when I had him reseat the CPU I had him take pics

@potent portal

[bronze oasis]

Im gonna have to call it for today unfortunately, if both of you guys are out of ideas its no problem ill return the mobo to microcenter

[frigid night]

I've been trying to avoid saying a bad motherboard, however if even Fal is failing to help get it figured out.. there's a good possibility that's the issue.

[bronze oasis]

at this point i wont rule it out either with the experience i had today haha, i guess it happens

[desert plover]

did you get it to work?

[bronze oasis]

we did not unfortunately

[desert plover]

damn bro sorry to hear that

[bronze oasis]

It happens i guess. if things dont go your way you get experience at least, i got a lot of it today haha

[desert plover]

real

it took me 3 days to build my pc cause I kept running into roadblocks

and I'm still trying to figure out why it's running slow

[bronze oasis]

@frigid night @potent portal Thanks guys for all your help today i really appreciate it. I learned a lot and honestly im not as frustrated ab the PC build, moreso that there was work i wanted to get done today but couldnt. But happy to have learned so much bc of you both.
If both of you are totally out of ideas, let me know and ill return this to microcenter ASAP and get probably the same board. Thanks again

[frigid night]

I would return the mobo asap.

[desert plover]

was it a doa

[bronze oasis]

What is doa in this context?

[desert plover]

Dead on arrival

[bronze oasis]

Ok ill do that tomorrow most likely. theres a chance i might even have them just build it for me since i took it apart and put it back together multiple times

[bronze oasis]

Im not sure to be honest, sure seems like it

[desert plover]

basically one of your parts was "dead" or nonfunctional when you bought it

[bronze oasis]

cant say for sure but its seems like it

[desert plover]

it's rare but ya never know

[little osprey]

What’s the best motherboard option? $200-$400 price range

And a PSU 850 Watts specifically A tier

[mossy venture]

For what cpu

Psu, gf a3 or xpg core reactor

[fossil cedar]

Welll technically 🤓

[fossil cedar]

Realistically it's gonna be a sub 200$ board no board is worth paying more for unless you want to do liquid nitrogen overclocking in which case i think you'd know you do

[dusky hearth]

is there any reason why a pc would be unstable in bios even after a cmos reset, and then be stable after one specific ram stick is removed from the system, and with it alone in the system the system is unstable, and then around 30 hours later i tell them to test to make sure it isnt the slot that is dead, and then both ram sticks work perfectly fine

bios crashes was after around like 10 seconds or so, the computer shuts off in bios
in windows, it bluescreens and then crashes (i forget what error it was) and also occasionally has black screens of deaths
and then they also tried booting with a live usb but that also was freezing and then crashing

but now with the same windows install, it's perfectly stable, and i also got them to run a memtest but that also didnt show any issues

my theory is that their computer was temporaily haunter lmao

it started happening when he clicked update and shutdown before bed

and then stayed up for like an hour lmao

[fossil cedar]

Yes dodgy ram can literally delete your windows install

[dusky hearth]

i mean that it randomly decided to work properly again and i have no idea if it's the slots, the cpu, or the ram that's the issue

[fossil cedar]

Ye can happen

Probably unstable tho

[dusky hearth]

should they RMA the kit

[fossil cedar]

Run a memtest first

Memtest86 should be fine for this

Pop onto a usb

Boot to usb

[dusky hearth]

They did do memtest, idk which one they used since I told them to just do a memtest lmao

And it passed

[fossil cedar]

uh

onto testmem5 extreme anta 77 profile imo

[dusky hearth]

Timeline of events was

1. New windows update available
2. Pressed update and shutdown
3. Windows blue screens and crashes during the blue screen
4. Try to fix it by themselves (they know enough about tech to try their own troubleshooting, though I'm not exactly sure what they tried at this point)
5. I come in and tell them to try resetting the CMOS, they do it, still crashing
6. I tell them to test booting from a live linux usb, still crashing less than a minute after it is on
7. I tell them to see if the bios is stable, they tested it, was in it for around a minute, and it crashed
8. I tell them to try using one ram stick, they do, and then one of their 2 sticks were stable for the bios, windows, and the other was doing the crashing, so I assumed that we found the cause, and to RMA the ram
   The next morning
9. I suddenly remembered that we didn't test if it was the board/cpu or if it was actually the ram, so I told them to test the sticks in the slot to see if it still has that issue, but both sticks work by themselves, as well as together, and passed a memtest

But yeah I told them to try testmem5, if it doesn't have any issues, then I will have no idea what the hell happened

It's not a new build either, it has been working fine for... I believe they bought the parts in October or November

[fading iris]

Sorry if it's hard to see I quickly took photo since I gtg but motherboard came in today. Curious as to what this little plastic is

It's like a plastic stick or wtv idk how to describe it

[mossy venture]

Wifi antennae

[fading iris]

Thank you

Guessing the two separate screws r for it aswell?

Got two bags and each had one screw lol

[mossy venture]

possibly?

[analog hearth]

The antennas themselves screw into the motherboard

[fading iris]

Joking?

[potent portal]

No they really do, on the back here

[fading iris]

Thx. Idk why I wasn't thinking and I thought he meant in the front of the motherboard and was almost certain that wasn't possible

[fiery oriole]

can someone put together a pc. 3000 budget at least want to have a x3d card. Just pc

[mossy venture]

Do you care about aesthetics? What's it being used for?

Is size a factor, or irrelevant

Do you need wifi, or are you going to use ethernet

[fiery oriole]

Just gaming and I do like aesthetics, I need wifi, and I’m fine with mid tower or full

[mossy venture]

US?

And what aesthetic would be preferred, ie full blackout, black and rgb, white and rgb, etc

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YFxhZJ

[fiery oriole]

Yes and thank you!

[mossy venture]

You could get a 4090, but its far worse value

[fiery oriole]

Wym?

[mossy venture]

Almost $900 more for a 25-30% perf difference

[fiery oriole]

True and 5000 series come out semi soon as well

[analog hearth]

imo the 4090 should just have the Titan label on it like Nvidia used to make

[cyan ravine]

4090 truly lost all meaning once the 4080 super came out as far as gaming is concerned

[pseudo pollen]

If they lowered the price by $200-300 then maybe it'd be a good deal (from msrp)

[south cliff]

500 dolalrs for a i7 9700k motherboard gpu 16gb of ram 1tb m.2 and a 650 watt psu a good deal?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

that's terrible

[earnest olive]

LOL

thats

impressively bad

assuming the gpu is a generic display adapter since you didnt say what it is

[rain carbon]

Could be a 4090 who knows these days

[fading iris]

Should the screws to screw in motherboard come with motherboard or shouldn't come with case?

[rain carbon]

Don't see why it wouldn't come with the motherboard

[obsidian wigeon]

cases give you the standoffs

the screws come with boards

[analog hearth]

I’ve never had a board come with screws. Should be the case

[obsidian wigeon]

or i could be wrong lmao

[cyan ravine]

mine do

but mainly cos they're oc boards

[analog hearth]

You're Australian

[cyan ravine]

PFFF

[analog hearth]

Everything is upside down for you

lol

[cyan ravine]

go get like a unify or kingpin they have screws

lol

[analog hearth]

Backwards ahh mf 💀

lol

[cyan ravine]

the other day

[analog hearth]

Nah I’m too poor but I believe you

[cyan ravine]

someone accused all Australians of using inverted cases

And he was right and I felt attacked

[rain carbon]

Inverted? Shouldnt they be upside down?

[cyan ravine]

that's what an inverted case is

layout is reversed, left hand side, upside down

[rain carbon]

Ah okay, got worried there for a second

[cyan ravine]

worried about what

[rain carbon]

Australians having something rightside up

[cyan ravine]

lol

[cursive wharf]

But but buttt.... Intel... Also i7. That means premium and expensive.

[frigid night]

Possibly for your m.2 standoffs.

[unique rapids]

Why cant GPU manufacturers just make a GPU that has replaceable fans? I would buy a noctua or arctic as a replacement to these noisy fans.

[earnest olive]

can always deshroud and strap on your own fans

[lunar bone]

what's the best bang for your buck gpu right now?

[cyan ravine]

a used 3070

or 2070 super

but why nvidia specifically

[lunar bone]

havent had the best xperience with amd so far

[cyan ravine]

alr

[lunar bone]

what bout 4050

[cyan ravine]

Now that we've established that, people won't ask

4050, in laptop?

[lunar bone]

is it only in laptops?

lol joke failed miserably

[cyan ravine]

I believe so

[lunar bone]

pretty much just looking for something that wouldnt limit my 7800x3d

[cyan ravine]

with a 7800x3d you could use basically anything

that isn't obviously limited by the resolution

but I would pick something in the upper mid range or better for a cpu like that

[lunar bone]

currently with my rx590 cpu util never goes above like 23% while gaming. always 100% on the gpu

not sure if that's normal or a bottleneck though

[cyan ravine]

the 590 will 1000% be the bottleneck

in like every situation lol

[lunar bone]

yeah haha

[cyan ravine]

even 720p I bet lol

[lunar bone]

yeah was thinking about a 7800xt and was wondering maybe nvidia has something similar that isn't highly overpriced

[cyan ravine]

for 7800x3d I'd be looking at, 3080 12gb, 3080 Ti, 3090, 4070 Super, 4070 Ti (not super), 4080 Super

7800xt is one of the best value new cards period

only 4070 super gets close

[lunar bone]

its like 1k eur over here

damn

[cyan ravine]

as far as new card value goes it's radeon's field of play for best value most of the time

[lunar bone]

7800xt is like 600

💀

[cyan ravine]

yea cos people don't understand amd

7800xt is good

if 590 is your amd experience, 7800xt will be a huge QoL jump

Polaris wasn't great

rather drivers up until I'd say, shortly after RDNA 3 dropped, they had teething problems

nowadays RDNA 2 and 3 are arguably as good as nvidia as drivers go imo

of all my gpu's in the house my nvidia card in my main rig by far has the most problems

[lunar bone]

oh yeah nvidia dlss is also great

pretty sure amd isnt that close with their tech

[cyan ravine]

and I don't mean that like it's bad, I mean like, it definitely has the highest hit rate\

[cyan ravine]

no they have fsr3 and afmf now

same quality stuff, but works on all gpus

so like, even great on old nvidia

stuff nvidia gatekept with tensor and dlss

they're equally comparable nowadays

if we're talking frame gen anyway

they even do stuff now where they run both FSR3 and DLSS 3 together

DLSS isn't a discussion anymore really

[lunar bone]

hmm yeah amd cards cost wayyy less where i live

[obsidian wigeon]

fsr 3 is also moddable into dlss games

so that nullifies nvidia dlss even further

[cyan ravine]

I won't really oversell this though, but relatively speaking, going to team green isn't worth more than a handful of dollars imo just to break out of a bad time

polaris is just

bad

I can't remember anyone who hasn't complained about their old RX card

lmao

like even RDNA 1 with the 5700XT has come a long way

much improved over polaris

[obsidian wigeon]

i have not seen virtually everyone who has owned polaris not complain

it really was the bad time for amd

[cyan ravine]

lol I was about to say

[obsidian wigeon]

my brain short circuited

lmao

[cyan ravine]

if you really want nvidia, your best bet might be used

@lunar bone

used 3080 12gb or 3080 ti

or better

I'd expect them somewhere in the near 500 mark for those two

if they cost as much as a 7800xt or more they won't be worth it

[lunar bone]

hmm yeah

makes sense

[cyan ravine]

3090ti could be decent at 600-650-ish

but you really want a good psu

like

diamond standard

[lunar bone]

lol

second hand 3090 is around the same price as 7800xt new

[cyan ravine]

that wouldn't be too bad

but it depends on the model

and the vram temps

[lunar bone]

corsair rm750

thats the psu i got rn

[cyan ravine]

oh I meant the 3090

but RM750 is good

I'd run that

[lunar bone]

yeah

you better run that

cause u recommended it to me

😄 😄

[cyan ravine]

damn I have no memory of it

I've helped thousands by now lol

[lunar bone]

pretty sure fish dont have great memory

[cyan ravine]

[lunar bone]

sucks that 90% of the cards are black

i have a white theme

[flint sapphire]

Pff never helped me

[cyan ravine]

white paint

for non-permanent solutions, you got that rubber paint

forgot the name of it

plastidip that's it

peels right off so it doesn't butcher the card

need to paint carefully with it tho if you want anything other than a matte finish

[lunar bone]

might wanna invest in to some case fans before that though haha

currently have none

[earnest olive]

even with a 4090 you'll almost never see 100% cpu usage in gaming unless your cpu is REALLY anemic

like an i5-4670 or modern dual core

I never saw 100% cpu usage when I was testing i3-12100 at 835p with 3090

you can still be CPU bottlenecked in games with CPU usage at less than 100%

not saying your rx 590 is bottlenecking your 7800x3d (your 7800x3d is having a nap paired with that gpu) but in general

[fading iris]

Yeh it is thx

[earnest olive]

games generally aren't very parallel workloads so you won't see them use all of your cpu resources unless you barely have any cpu resources to begin with

still never saw 100% cpu usage testing 3080 with 10 year old i7-4790k and ddr3

despite a pretty clear cpu bottleneck

nothing says CPU bottleneck more clearly than dropping from 1440p to 1080p and gaining 0 fps

[vague oracle]

Hey now I’ve seen 100% cpu usage on my 13900k with a 4090 while gaming

at 420p

[earnest olive]

[atomic epoch]

I'm not sure where else to ask since my pc is broken. is it possible for a mod manager (Vortex) to ruin my ram or did my ram just go bad? I was using my pc last night and it was doing some weird things and acting very very slow and task manager said vortex was using 300mb of ram and that my memory was at 100% usage when I had 32GB of ram installed

Ive tried to reseat it and try with just one stick and no difference this morning. it wont post. DRAM ad CPU lights are on

[vague oracle]

[atomic epoch]

with just the other stick it posted. I guess I have a dead RAM stick

[little osprey]

Does anyone have a CPU cooler, RBG, White, 3 fans for a decent price?

Dont want to spend $280 for a 3 fan NZXT Kraken

[analog hearth]

Lian Li Galahad

the Kraken is overpriced

[crimson zinc]

I was told multiple times on pcmr that my motherboard could bottleneck my cpu and gpu

I was using a 1080 and a 4500

And a b350m board

[earnest olive]

uhhhhh

no

worst case scenario that board limits you to like ddr4-3200? doesn't really matter lol

not worth upgrading board just for that

[crimson zinc]

they’re incompetent

[earnest olive]

like I get what they're trying to say

but no

anecdotally I had a $30 b350 board that happily ran ddr4-3600 with tight manual timings

that b350 board could hold back the full ram oc potential of that 4500, but for real usage it doesn't matter at all

you will be primarily limited by the 1080

and the mobo has pcie 3 so i have no idea what they mean by bottlenecking the gpu

[vague oracle]

I’ll bottleneck your gpu

[crimson zinc]

[mossy venture]

Frozen notte, ls720, lt720, revised lian li galahad

Aqua elite v3

[pseudo pollen]

isn't the frozen edge also a good one?

[potent portal]

New liquid freezer III is good

$108 for the RGB 360mm

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKXCP1LW

[rain carbon]

At what point does liquid cooling become better than air cooling?

[potent portal]

When air cooling is no longer able to effectively cool the CPU

You need a REALLY hot chip for that level of heat

We're at the point where $35 air coolers are as good as an average 240mm AIO

[rain carbon]

So there really is no point in paying 100 bucks for a liquid cooling system

[potent portal]

Most of the time, no

[rain carbon]

Is it any quieter?

[potent portal]

Louder usually

[rain carbon]

Tf

[potent portal]

An AIO not only has the fans to make noise, but also the pump and liquid inside making noise

[crimson zinc]

AIO water coolers tend to be more aesthetically appealing to most

[mossy venture]

Phantom spirit evo>

[severe hull]

Hey so I'm having a small issue with connecting fans. Water cooler said put plug on cpu fan . Rear plug took fan 1 then the front 3 fans go on fan 2. So now I don't have anywhere to plug the fans for the top radiator. I can't piggy back off the front fans since it's a different plug what do I do ?

I'm looking for manual on MOB to see if there is a designated area for water cooler but I can't find

[crimson zinc]

Then there’s me who puts TR’s PA se on every build

[fading iris]

If anybody can help me with my argb peerless assassin asap help would be appreciated

[little osprey]

@potent portal

thank you

[potent portal]

What part did you need help with?

[fading iris]

Can you go to general

[little osprey]

I just have 1 more question

What is the best

power supply

for 850 Watts under $130

[potent portal]

Typically I'd recommend the RM850e

Let me double check on that

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rm850e-cp-9020263-na-850-w/p/N82E16817139306?Item=N82E16817139306

This one right?

[potent portal]

Yes

This one is $10 cheaper today https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XsV3C/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505

[little osprey]

@potent portal

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JPLDXk

So this is the current build

I am just

questioning

the Motherboard

and CPU cooler

everything else, I wouldn't worry about

The GPU is bad, but I already have it, will upgrade in the future

[potent portal]

Motherboard is fine, it's hard to cut that down without sacrificing wifi

For the CPU cooler you can use just about anything, even the cheap single tower coolers because the 7800X3D is extremely easy to cool

[little osprey]

Am looking specifically

for a CPU cooler

with 3 fans

and all of them are $200-$300

actually nvm

am stupid

[potent portal]

The PSU I'd recommend switching to that be quiet unit because it has the 12VHPWR cable and you won't need the adapter

[little osprey]

can you make the switch for me, and add a CPU cooler you would best prefer for like $30-$60? LED, White, No set RPM. I want the RPM to change depending on the temps yk

comes with thermal paste

if possible

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9VmNnQ/thermalright-frozen-notte-argb-7237-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-notte-360-white-argb-d1

Thoughts on this?

[potent portal]

Literally no reason besides looks to water cool that CPU

[earnest olive]

it's fine, as long as you recognize that you're paying extra for the look of an aio

[little osprey]

There are two things I have no clue about. Motherboards and AIO's. Sorry am not good at this

[earnest olive]

it's not going to offer better performance and it might be louder than a good air cooler

but if you like how it looks then it's fine

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9HZ8sh

Look at this build

Can you provide me with the best AO

[potent portal]

Here's those changes. The air cooler on this list can handle even some of the hottest CPUs like the 14700k.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QPWXpB

[little osprey]

AIO*

[earnest olive]

with 253W PL?

[potent portal]

Yes

[earnest olive]

fair

can't imagine it handles uncapped

[little osprey]

Question about the CPU cooler

is it loud?

Am tryna keep it quiet yk?

[earnest olive]

nope

[potent portal]

Liquid coolers tend to be louder than air coolers

[little osprey]

1 last question, why choose the MSI motherboard?

[earnest olive]

over what

[little osprey]

oop my fault

[potent portal]

If you need wifi that's one of the cheapest options, especially if you want a full size ATX instead of a micro

[earnest olive]

like what motherboard would you rather have

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YZgFf7/gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-x-ax

I dont know anything about motherboards

so this was the one I first picked

[earnest olive]

just no point paying more for that

the MSI board will do perfectly fine

[potent portal]

Both boards will get you the same performance in the end

[little osprey]

and last question before I keep annoying you guys. is 64GBs and 32Gbs a much difference?

[earnest olive]

depends on what you're doing

[potent portal]

64GB can hurt your gaming performance, 32GB is the gaming sweet spot right now. You can get away with 48GB if you want to spend the extra for whatever reason.

[earnest olive]

if it's for gaming then only like 2 or 3 games care about more than 32gb

[little osprey]

Going to have a lot of bots, code running in the background, creating games, coding, video editing and more code running in the background

[earnest olive]

video editing is a big ram user

especially if you're editing 4K or higher

definitely want that 64gb

if you're editing 1080p then 32gb is enough

[little osprey]

and is the COrsair Vengence 2 x 32 good?

DDR5-6000

for

$214.99

[mossy venture]

Nah

Silicon power 64gb 6000c30 is $190-200

Or g.skill 5600c28 is $190 if you're gonna do any music production

[little osprey]

@mossy venture I cant find it, can you edit this for the best memory 64GB latency, for gaming and the other stuff

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QPWXpB

[pseudo pollen]

new arctic liquid cooler out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMeH7SJO74Q

and it's cheap

[little osprey]

@pseudo pollen how cheap?

[earnest olive]

https://www.newegg.com/p/0RN-002K-000H8

[pseudo pollen]

zenith is trash ram

[earnest olive]

?

[pseudo pollen]

bad dies and crap subtimings

[earnest olive]

lol?

that's hynix

[pseudo pollen]

is it?

[earnest olive]

bruh

[little osprey]

and why did you choose this one over the other one if I may ask

[pseudo pollen]

last I checked it wasn't

[earnest olive]

what else could those timings be

💀

[little osprey]

oop

[earnest olive]

significantly cheaper for the same thing

also if you ever want to get into ram oc, corsair uses locked pmics which is cringe

also anecdotally corsair kinda just has lax binning standards compared to other manufacturers

[little osprey]

you got to dumb it down 💀

[earnest olive]

corsair ram = more money for technically inferior product

[little osprey]

@earnest olive is there an amazon link? or do you have one simialr to that?

[earnest olive]

amazon only has white non-rgb at that price, up to you if you care or not

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLVBLFH9

I don't like rgb on ram anyways

[little osprey]

Everytime I try and add it to PCpartpicker the only store is newegg

[earnest olive]

well the amazon link is right there

[little osprey]

Tryna add it to the pcpartpicker so I dont forget it

[earnest olive]

manufacturers commonly use the same brand name for many different bins/dies

my g.skill ripjaws is b-die but ripjaws ddr4 are most commonly hynix mfr/afr/cjr/djr

most people have no idea what those even mean so doesn't matter

you can generally tell if a kit is using a relevant die based on the timings

[torn mesa]

any suggestions for a graphics card around $300? For gaming 🥸

they also prefer nvidia..

[earnest olive]

new only or open to used

oh boy

[torn mesa]

new

yeah..

[earnest olive]

300 new and prefer nvidia is a recipe for disaster

[torn mesa]

lol

[potent portal]

There's no good low end Nvidia cards right now and there's no reason to get them unless you specifically need the cuda cores for work

[earnest olive]

well basically the only option is 4060

be a good friend and try to convince them to try radeon on that budget

[torn mesa]

ofc ofc

[earnest olive]

but if you can't then they can enjoy their piece of crap 4060

[torn mesa]

like a 7600xt?

[earnest olive]

360 gets a 6750xt which is a significant step up from 4060

seems like 6700/6700xt are no longer being restocked

50% more performance and 50% more vram

[torn mesa]

okay! 👍

[earnest olive]

tbh rx 7600 is nothing special either but at least it's cheaper than a 4060

if 360 is too far to stretch the budget

7600xt isn't worth the premium over a 7600

[lyric thistle]

7600 is decent but there's a fair few games that are nvidia biased

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[earnest olive]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C59RVD98 best choice that's actually sub 300

[earnest olive]

radeon favored games also exist

if they only play nvidia favored games then sure go 4060

[lyric thistle]

I just know of games that work good on either

[earnest olive]

but in general you are paying more for less

[lyric thistle]

not familiar with radeon bias

[earnest olive]

mw2 is a popular title with a massive radeon bias

[lyric thistle]

well I guess that's something, I'm not a cod player

more of a tuna

[earnest olive]

7900xtx beats 4090 in mw2

which is quite surprising since 7900xtx is generally quite a bit weaker than 4090

[potent portal]

Yes but not to the point where it affects frames per dollar, the 7600 wins for the price

[lyric thistle]

war thunder gives you nvidia ads if you have an amd card but it runs perfectly on anything

the ads stop after a few launches

[earnest olive]

lmao what

that's so funny

[lyric thistle]

never seen it until I built this computer lol

[potent portal]

Literal paid shills? That's interesting lol

I guess they want you to use DLSS

[lyric thistle]

fr

[earnest olive]

"oh boy can't wait to fire up my favorite game on my brand new 7900xtx"
"oh no the game showed me an nvidia logo now I have to upgrade to a 4090"

is that their thought process lol

[lyric thistle]

I think assetto corsa has nvidia branding on ingame advertising as well?

[earnest olive]

of how they think users will react

that's fair enough if it's an nvidia sponsored title

having it subtly be present in the game world is fine

[lyric thistle]

yeah

[earnest olive]

if it's a literal popup ad that's a bit weird

[potent portal]

You know what else is weird

[earnest olive]

💀

[lyric thistle]

obamer!!

[potent portal]

Obama advertising in burnout paradise

[lyric thistle]

lol

[potent portal]

He knew his target audience ig

[earnest olive]

omg fellow gamers can you believe this he's so cool and relatable

[lyric thistle]

real

[potent portal]

He did that for Guitar Hero III, Madden NFL 09, NBA Live 08, Burnout Paradise, Nascar 09 and Need For Speed Carbon

[earnest olive]

incredibly epic gamer moment

[lyric thistle]

yeah that screenie looks like carbon

[severe hull]

Are these kk to use

[potent portal]

You won't be able to control fan speed, it'll just run at 100%. If you're ok with that then yes it's fine. 3 fans would barely draw 1 Amp if they're inefficient fans, which means 12W. That's well under the spec for a SATA power connector.

[severe hull]

Unfortunately I don't have any space for fans on mob

Unless I can use adaptors to piggy back

[potent portal]

You can use splitters and hubs to expand your available headers. Depending on the fan, it should be safe to run 5-7 fans off of one header. It's easy to find 4 way splitters. If you need more than 4 per header, then you want a powered hub.

[severe hull]

Do they have hubs with different plug types

[lyric thistle]

If you don't have that many fan headers then realistically you should just use a few fans

The first PC I built has three case fans, two in front and one in the rear, plus the CPU fan

I had to use one Y splitter

4 fans, 3 headers

My most recent build only has one intake fan and one exhaust fan, no splitters needed

[potent portal]

What do you mean? Which plug types? Do you mean the 3 pin and 4 pin power? Or ARGB?

They do make hubs with both fan power and ARGB if that's what you mean

[fading iris]

Put in wrong channel and I did seperate messages n not one by one copy and pasting but at bottom of page is question

[potent portal]

The 4 pin speaker goes on that 2 pin header by the front panel header. The first and fourth pins are the speaker, the second and third are reserved for different types of speakers.

[fading iris]

Thx got one last question I think

Could be the angel I'm doing at but is there possibly a reason u could think of as to why my CPU cable isn't fitting into psu

[fading iris]

.

Something is on top of end of CPU cable

Like a little bar on both sides

And I'm genuinely confused as to how tf I'm supposed to stick this in if the PSU will legit not allow me to

[potent portal]

Which PSU so I can look up a pic

[cyan ravine]

Fat clip end into mobo

[fading iris]

Genius

Lol

[cyan ravine]

Genius and stupidity tread a fine line

I've done it backwards before

Didn't end well

[fading iris]

Lol thx

I got anorhe dumb question

Where does the PSU big cable go

Like the one u plug into the wall

Where does the other end go I feel stupid lol

[stoic island]

Back of the PSU

[fading iris]

😭

Thx

Bro it was covered by a flimsy sticker

Never touched sticker so I genuinely thought nothing was behind it

I got another dumb question but how would I connect power on button it would it alrdy be connected or powered

I feel like all the tutorials I watched just explained how to put everything on motherboard and slight cable management n nothing else rlly

[stoic island]

The power button on your front panel is connected to the motherboard through one of the connectors in the cluster of front io connectors that you generally plug into the bottom right of the motherboard

[fading iris]

Welp I forgot to plug it in.

Found a jungle of cords do u possibly know which?

[cyan ravine]

is it audiojungle

[fading iris]

One said hd audio

One says f panel

Is that the right one?

[cyan ravine]

ok from right to left

HD Audio is bottom right

USB 3.1 is a fat plug usually bottom quarter right

usb c is usually right hand side

front panel is right hand bottom corner

on mobo

[fading iris]

Thx

Which one controls power tho

Just wanna quickly see if it works not finishing tonight

Also don't see a USB 3.1

[cyan ravine]

3.1

plug in plug that matches it

guarantee you have a board that fits this plug

[fading iris]

The

[cyan ravine]

square plug goes in the square hole

[fading iris]

Found it it's on right side

[cyan ravine]

ye

on the bottom right quarter usually

near the chipset

[fading iris]

But what Abt the one I sent pic of

[cyan ravine]

I didn't see that

that's usb c

your board may or may not have it

costs a fair bit of money to add to a board so mightn't be there

[fading iris]

It's not

Should the one that u said is on right side

Found it but shouldn't be a tight fit

[cyan ravine]

?

point to it

3 of the ones I said are on the right side if they're on the board lmao

[cyan ravine]

see that

[cyan ravine]

usb-c

[cyan ravine]

I don't see where this goes

also your gpu is missing a power cable

[strong raft]

Begone satan! White mode, yuck

[fading iris]

😭

[cyan ravine]

wait I see it, yes that's it

both usb and usb c are next to each other

[strong raft]

Also, fix the one that's there. 2pin part goes on "1st"

[fading iris]

It has same one hole missing but doesn't seem to fit

Yeh I had a question Abt GPU but thought it may of been right

OHH

[cyan ravine]

if you put it in carefully it'll work

[fading iris]

So is my GPU wiring correct

[cyan ravine]

no

[fading iris]

But I just need a second?

[cyan ravine]

fix the current cable

add second

[fading iris]

Yeh thx

[cyan ravine]

it needs to be completely in or it won't work

or work horribly

[fading iris]

Ok thx

I'ma keep trying the big cable ts isn't working even tho they r identical

[cyan ravine]

sometimes it goes in easy

sometimes it's terrible

just be careful not to bend the pins

take other cables out if you need the space to work

[fading iris]

I took the 4th slot ram out

Put of curiousity