building-and-recc-chat

[potent portal]

Vehicles too ofc

Vehicles I think is better balanced than Battlefield because you're a very obvious target and some of those 100+ enemies will have RPGs

Steam does have the refund policy if you want to try it for a bit and see if it's something you like

[little osprey]

id like help with a build if possible
including this https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-zt-d40710j-10p/p/N82E16814500546R?Item=N82E16814500546R&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-500-546R-_-02162024
my budget is like, 1200 could go up a bit if needed
using the pc for:
rust
competitive cs2
fortnite
video editing
recording the games listed above
possible streaming but not a priority

possibly some rgb in there

[little osprey]

would also love to be able to play at good frames in games with high cpu dependency

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7ngjgB

Could do 4070 Super if you stretch budget

Or used 3080 otherwise

[flint sapphire]

I tried for a minute and gave up on newer gen stuff https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VjV9vj

[vivid copper]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zDgjgB If you're willing to go over....budget not quite big enough for a 70ti

If you're comfortable with open box you can be WAY under with an open box 3080 https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-ventus-3x-plus-10g-oc-lhr/p/N82E16814137816R?Item=N82E16814137816R

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QNbHsh

[cyan ravine]

Single tower for multithreaded work is...something else

[vivid copper]

doesn't mean anything....

[cyan ravine]

And that cooler with it's FC fans outputting like a jet

God that cooler costs $32

It's the same price as the dual tower I put

There's entirely zero reason to justify that

[vivid copper]

so instead of attacking my opinion/list just ride with yours homie, that's all....if you think your list/parts/build is better so be it....just save us all the typing.....

[cyan ravine]

I say these things to teach lad, if you think that's attacking you need to be a bit thicker skinned

Thermalright's $32 coolers have been the best price/perf for over a year now

Use the advice and learn lol

[vivid copper]

you're nobodies teacher...you're just some random with an opinion like everybody else....i've been building PCs for longer than you've been alive...lol....you'll just be blocked too....

[cyan ravine]

[vivid copper]

selective criticism is crazy....

[obsidian wigeon]

he did teach me, that's one

also gotta say, the ag500 isn't the best value

dual towers can be had from thermalright for the same price

[vivid copper]

and that's fine...and i'm sure i've taught alot in other servers as well...but what i don't do is go around selectively critizing everyone else lists...i don't have that energy

[potent portal]

AG500 used to be good value, like 9-12 months ago but yeah thermalright has just dominated the air cooler market lately

[vivid copper]

i'm just not a fan of thermalright and i wouldn't put any of their products in one of my builds...that's all no harm

so when i recommend things it's not on my list

[little osprey]

i can go over.

[obsidian wigeon]

thermalright uses the same factory as noctua

in a pc build, personal biases shouldn't be factored in

[cyan ravine]

Love how it was just one thing in the list and I get a block threat

like there are so many others here I correct way more on

[vivid copper]

you don't have to explain....it' doesn't matter....it's my list, so it's my opinion...not sure what's so hard about that guys.....

i see there is a common mentality here

[obsidian wigeon]

it was all constructive advice

stuff in pc world changes a lot within a span of even a week

say, one week a 4070 is the best deal ever for its tier

then another that title goes to radeon

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L4zLHG

[vivid copper]

welp i'm not here for advice or criticisms....i just wanna post a build...and be about my day.....and i'm sure all the other people that tune in to this channel would rather not sift through all this unnecessary banter and back and forth

[cyan ravine]

added more RGB @little osprey since you can go over

and the 4070S to consider if you decide to go for it

[vivid copper]

what's your ultimate cap like no more than X amount?

[potent portal]

No matter where you post a part list, be it here, reddit, facebook, whatever, someone is going to criticize it. It's part of being on the Internet.

[vivid copper]

It's the selectivism that I won't stand for. Yall say stuff to who yall want.

And I'm not gonna argue or go back and forth about cause it's dumb and immature...so i'll just block whoever has something to say about what i post from now on....

[obsidian wigeon]

When did anyone do that? We were simply giving constructive criticism

[flint sapphire]

Three dots…

[cyan ravine]

[vivid copper]

Literally anytime someone other than a select few has an opinion...he's not the first one i've blocked in here....and probably won't be the last

[potent portal]

You're allowed to have an opinion, but don't get mad when someone expresses theirs in return

[obsidian wigeon]

Keep to your opinions, but don't expect people to not criticize

[little osprey]

maybe 200 bucks?

[obsidian wigeon]

Even I have my opinion, but it's flexible if the knowledge is crucial

[little osprey]

perfectly doable

[vivid copper]

So 1400 tops?

[little osprey]

yep

[little osprey]

thanks :)

[obsidian wigeon]

As for lists, feel free to listen to anyone you feel best suits you

But expect differing advice

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NqjDTY
https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-zt-d40710j-10p/p/N82E16814500546R

[little osprey]

whats difference between 4070ti and super

[cyan ravine]

a couple %

not worth paying 150 more for

oh and 4gb more vram

[cyan ravine]

^same reason

[little osprey]

which one should i realistically buy

[cyan ravine]

you can also do uber cheap 7900XT

[little osprey]

the open box 4070ti or just 4070 super

[cyan ravine]

either or

both are good

[little osprey]

okay, sweet

[cyan ravine]

honorable mention:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DkpkmD

bit worse overall for productivity but still excellent

[little osprey]

could that mobo accept quad channel ram in the future

[cyan ravine]

yes...

but

over 96gb ddr5

you start getting compatability issues

crippled speeds

poor performance

[little osprey]

alright, i was mostly just thinking same amount but just spread out + rgb lol

[cyan ravine]

you can do 4 sticks on a 13600KF

[little osprey]

for whenever i decide to glam it out

[cyan ravine]

12600KF I've never looked into

but the generational jump to 13th gen, 4 sticks became easier, but still not as good as 2 sticks

2 sticks just runs way better

[little osprey]

alright, ill just stick to two sticks then

even if i get rgb ram in the future lmao

[cyan ravine]

this is rgb ram

lol

[potent portal]

There's severe performance penalties with 4 sticks on Intel.
It's mostly the motherboards that improved. A lot of Z690 boards can't run 4 sticks past 4400 (DDR5).

[cyan ravine]

it's not easy to see in the preview hold on

[little osprey]

oh what

im blind

my bad

[cyan ravine]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71w1YwErFaL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

[little osprey]

ohhhh now i see it

[cyan ravine]

ur good

[little osprey]

thats hella clean

[cyan ravine]

SP is nice this gen tbh

so one more question @little osprey

idk if I checked this

[little osprey]

whats up :)

[cyan ravine]

wifi yes or no

[little osprey]

uhh yes

actually

[cyan ravine]

alr

[little osprey]

can i just use

ethernet cable

[cyan ravine]

ye

[little osprey]

ok then no lol

i use ethernet anyway

[cyan ravine]

ah then all good

[little osprey]

uhhh one question

[cyan ravine]

it doesn't have wifi, but 2.5g ethernet iirc

[little osprey]

whats different between 12th gen and 13th gen and is it worth it to go with the 13600kf or no

[cyan ravine]

it's a significant IPC increase and 4 more e cores

but overall value for money not really

[vivid copper]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mnxqQP This would be my $1400 build....bumped up the CPU and cooling....and you can grab your open box 70ti, or can keep the 4070 super FE to stay a lil bit under

[cyan ravine]

12600KF is still uber powerful for creative work

[little osprey]

okay bet

idk if it was worth the extra like

[cyan ravine]

if anything

[little osprey]

150 roughly

[cyan ravine]

go 12600K

and grab quick sync

so not the F version

[little osprey]

what is even the difference between kf and k

[cyan ravine]

quick sync is big for like vegas, premiere

if you rely on the cpu at all

[cyan ravine]

included iGPU in the cpu for basic stuff, but quick sync is big

so would look like:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RVxqQP

https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-zt-d40710j-10p/p/N82E16814500546R
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hc7scf/asus-dual-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-dual-rtx4070s-o12g

[little osprey]

what the freak

so its literally just

integrated included with k but not with kf

[cyan ravine]

yep I know what you're gonna say

yep

lolol

but quick sync is a big benefit for an editing rig if you can leverage the budget for it

[little osprey]

how so

what even IS quick sync

😭

[cyan ravine]

it's an onboard encoder

iirc @potent portal knows about it way better than I do if you're curious

having a second encoder is also great for sideloading encoding to cpu while you play games for example

though you'd be spared AV1 as the 12600K (UHD770) lacks AV1 encode

[potent portal]

Quicksync when used in Adobe apps supports more complex effects than GPU rendering. If you didn't have the iGPU (F CPU) then you'd be limited to two options: use effects that the GPU supports, or use the CPU for much, much slower rendering.

[little osprey]

uhhh

i use davinci resolve

[obsidian wigeon]

nvidia then

[vivid copper]

9/10 you'll just use the GPU/nvenc it's plenty fast

and the quality will be damn near indestinguishable from CPU encoding

[little osprey]

so is getting the k like

still worth

or nah

[vivid copper]

if it's a few buck more yes...more so for troubleshooting purposes

[potent portal]

Then quicksync isn't a factor. The iGPU is still good to have for troubleshooting purposes or for running multi monitor if either of those appeals to you.

[obsidian wigeon]

for davinci, i doubt it

[cursive wharf]

If it's the same as Adobe, maybe. For adobe, ideally you want NVENC+QSV

[little osprey]

i will have 3 monitors so

also possibly a 4th 😭 so uh

[cursive wharf]

If davinci supports seperate encode/decode devices then iGPU could be good

[potent portal]

You could run 2 monitors off the iGPU to avoid the classic Nvidia multi monitor bugs

[little osprey]

is that like

supa complicated to setup

or nah

[potent portal]

Not in the free version

[potent portal]

Plug and play once drivers are installed

[little osprey]

kewl

do i need drivers for both the igpu and 4070ti or is the igpu drivers included with cpu drivers

[potent portal]

Yes you'd need drivers for each

[little osprey]

okay, sounds good

im not gonna be the one assembling it so

offloading the work to my homie who has done this before and i pay him 30 bucks

[little osprey]

so is this the like

the one

probably

yeah

[cyan ravine]

lmao

for the reasons others have said yeah, getting the K can still be worth it

[little osprey]

is it different in like

any other way

[obsidian wigeon]

Kek approved pc

[cyan ravine]

not really

[little osprey]

okay, cool

thank you for pc help :) i appreciate

sorry for all the questionings

i shall make cool frag montages with this computer....

[cyan ravine]

all good lad, good luck with it

[little osprey]

ok 😭

[cyan ravine]

💀

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-murder-me-on-my-way-to-kill-mee6-prepare-gif-17635357

[little osprey]

one more questioning

[cyan ravine]

yeah go for it

[little osprey]

uhh whats best windows 10 thing

like

whats the best way to get it

prefferably cheap 😭

[cyan ravine]

oh

hmu dm's

I can't say it here

[little osprey]

black market alley

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/trench-coat-secret-squirrel-gif-11172509

[rough totem]

Damn, I didn't know about bonus creative effects for iGPUs

[potent portal]

They're not bonus effects, just more of them can be accelerated

And only for Intel

[rough totem]

That sounds like a bonus to me!

[fossil cedar]

Legally the cheapest way to get windows is don't activate it, it's free, legal and all it gives you is a watermark

[unreal grove]

My friend made a questionable gpu upgrade to a (3080ti). id say its beyond the capability of his current cpu a i5 10400f.

Im trying to pick a cpu for him but on the mobo a b660. Idk if a 12700kf or a 12900kf would be a better pair for his gpu hes on 1080p and mainly plays fps. Im free to hear all other suggestions

[fossil cedar]

id go for a a620 board and a 7600(x)/7700(x)/7800x3d

12th gen is already outdated

and poor value for money atm

[unreal grove]

Hmm really?

Alright

[fossil cedar]

yep

[unreal grove]

Amd time

We havent got the mobo yet luckily

[fossil cedar]

theyre on 14th gen currently but thats basically just 13th gen

[unreal grove]

I saw the 14gen

Seem

Very

Underwhelming

[fossil cedar]

and no point really paying more for a k cpu on a b board from intel, k means overclockable but needs a z board

[cyan ravine]

hi

I am pato's yes man

[fossil cedar]

yeah 14th gen shouldnt be a thing

[cyan ravine]

yes

[unreal grove]

Lol

[cyan ravine]

yes

[unreal grove]

7600x

Looks like a good choice

[cyan ravine]

7600 is the same

[fossil cedar]

whichever is cheaper

[cyan ravine]

but cheaper and has a cooler

[unreal grove]

Ill go with that non x

If cheaprt

[fossil cedar]

x cpus are basically the same as non x on amd

they just usually release x first

[cyan ravine]

ye

non-x is binned just a tiny bit slower but you can set the x and non-x to run almost exactly like each other

so the difference is a couple % at most

and you'll pay maybe 10, 20 less for it, which might be more like 10% cash

[vague oracle]

Yes

[vague oracle]

Yes

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-no-gif-5663427739496743473

[vague oracle]

Shh I know where you live

[cyan ravine]

yes

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/today-is-friday-in-california-gif-25066545

[fading iris]

Why do some people update bios after building a pc

Wouldn't u naturally have the newest version? If not how would I know if I have to updated

[potent portal]

The motherboard was likely manufactured 6-9 months before it was sold

So the bios would be at least that much out of date

A lot can happen in a year. Stability upgrades, new CPUs, lots of things you'd benefit from updating.

[lyric thistle]

ah yes the evolutionary bioligical input output system

naturally

[fading iris]

I see

For a a620m pro rs wifi would I need to update?

[potent portal]

Yes. AMD just revealed that on the latest update they patched several critical security flaws.

[fading iris]

😔

[severe hull]

Finally started building my son's pc can't wait to come bother you guys for more info 🤣🤣

[gaunt dawn]

Bring it on....

[late fjord]

Had a friend send me a pic of his pc saying it overheats and shuts down. It's a cybertron prebuilt. Is it me or does the radiator situation look off?

[pseudo pollen]

what exactly overheats?

[potent portal]

If it's the CPU and it's shutting down quickly then the pump might have died

[late fjord]

He's pretty clueless unfortunately. I just thought maybe the aio placement was off

[strong raft]

Rad is fine. Top mount just happens to be a bit better. Could download hwinfo to monitor temps & such. Hold finger on pump to at least see if it's vibrating(running). If so, maybe bad mounting. Still hard to confirm even if it's a temp issue specifically

[fading iris]

Opinion on palworld? Never played a open world game and thinking of buying.

[pseudo pollen]

minecraft be like

[cyan ravine]

Fun af

It's on game pass if you want to try without paying

[fading iris]

If I switch from rainbow six siege on console to PC if I connect Ubisoft will the characters and skins switch over?

[potent portal]

Also Steam refund policy is nice for anything you're not sure you'll enjoy

[fading iris]

Is there anything else I need to do right after setting up PC besides motherboard and GPU drivers, windows, and updating bios

[potent portal]

Enable xmp in bios so your memory runs at the rated speed

[vagrant thistle]

So I need help

I might’ve messed up when I ordered some fans

So I ordered 9 lian li 120 sl infinity fans but

I didn’t know that u needed to get reversed fans to make it look good and get the right air flow

So I don’t know if anyone can help me with how I should set up the air flow

[cyan ravine]

That's like $400

[vagrant thistle]

For the case I have etc if u can I’d appreciate it I’ll send like

Yeah

I know

[cyan ravine]

What gpu have you got again

[vagrant thistle]

I can refund it just

7900 xtx

[cyan ravine]

Ok so you haven't committed reddit self-own

Lol

[vagrant thistle]

What’s that

[cyan ravine]

Before I go further

[vagrant thistle]

Reddit self own ?

[cyan ravine]

Don't mind it

Making myself laugh

[vagrant thistle]

Alright

[cyan ravine]

Before I go further

Let me entertain your idea of matching forward and reverse fans

Look up

Thermalright C12C-S

Then look up

Thermalright C12R

They're matching front and reverse fans, daisy chainable

Far better performance than infinities

And they're all $4-$8 a piece

I just want to see how you feel about those, as they're arguably far better overall, and don't need L connect to run either

L connect in my experience with unifans is very flakey

But if this isn't enough to change your mind, then we can go further

Usually

Airflow at the front on cases is intake

Bottom is intake

[vagrant thistle]

Eh idk the infinity just look good bra

[cyan ravine]

Side is intake or exhaust

Back is exhaust or intake

Top is exhaust

[vagrant thistle]

Case I got is a h9 foe

Flow

What’s the most efficient though

[cyan ravine]

Yep all that I just wrote applies to h9 flow

Pick any combo

Not any noticeable difference

[vagrant thistle]

Alr so back is exhaust

[cyan ravine]

Sure

[vagrant thistle]

Top intake ?

[cyan ravine]

Can but you'll want not too much positive pressure

Hence me saying only exhaust

H9 flow is a chimney style case

[vagrant thistle]

Ah

[cyan ravine]

So it prefers bottom intake and top exhaust

[vagrant thistle]

Ok I’ll do that then

[cyan ravine]

You get at the minimum those 6 and it works well enough

[vagrant thistle]

I need 10 fans bruh

Bruv

[cyan ravine]

You don't, you can fit 10 fans

You don't need 10

[vagrant thistle]

What do I do with back and the fan on the side

[cyan ravine]

More fans is not more better

[vagrant thistle]

But it looks better

[cyan ravine]

^

[cyan ravine]

^

[vagrant thistle]

So it can’t be

Either or ?

Just both have to be diff ?

[cyan ravine]

I mean if you're only after looks instead of flow efficiency it can be literally anything lol

[cyan ravine]

They can both be intake or exhaust

[vagrant thistle]

Alr

So I just need 3 reverse fans

For the top I’m guessing ?

[cyan ravine]

3 for the bottom

At a minimum

[vagrant thistle]

Alr damn

I gotta return one of the 3 packs oh wow

[cyan ravine]

It's a lot for fans

[vagrant thistle]

Alr

Yeah man but

[cyan ravine]

Unifans also aren't really quiet

[vagrant thistle]

They just look good

Resllly good

[cyan ravine]

Meh

I haven't touched my AL's in a long time now

They had only 40% rpm range control

No fan stop

And a really annoying hum

And the flakey L connect

I'm not saying they're bad, lots of people like them

But after seeing what budget fans can do, I've been converted lol

[vagrant thistle]

So I get 3 of these and I should be fine with aesthetic

Idk I just got into all this pc stuff so

[cyan ravine]

Sure you'd be fine

[vagrant thistle]

Alr sweet

[fickle peak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wjb3vj Is this good chat need for 4k designing

[obsidian wigeon]

what kind of programs do you plan to use or currently use?

[fickle peak]

Oqton

Davinci resolve

Vegas pro

Trying to find an high end pc for arround 6-8k

[obsidian wigeon]

This is where I really wanna ask Felix about, but from my assessment

I'd probably throw the ssd out for a high end gen 5 drive

Intel 750 is very outdated too, outclassed by current high end drives

And replace the cooler for AIO, and cpu for 7950X to save money

The extra cpu cache wouldn't be very useful

@cyan ravine halp pls

6000-8000 USD for workstation pc with AI thrown in

[fickle peak]

Thx

[cyan ravine]

What's your current system

[fickle peak]

do u mean Like windows?

[cyan ravine]

No like what pc do you currently use

[fickle peak]

Mac

[cyan ravine]

Mac....?

[fickle peak]

…

[cyan ravine]

Lol

There are 1000 different macs

I can't get any gauge of the kind of level of system you need without getting a bit of background here

[fickle peak]

hm

[cyan ravine]

Call me being a bit too caring, I like to take in what people want to achieve first before I spit out a list lol

Especially at budgets like this, you might find something not nearly as insane is needed

[obsidian wigeon]

Look into your system info

That should tell what mac it is

[cyan ravine]

Like I could make you a 10K list

Consider that done in 5 minutes

[fickle peak]

Try

Pleasee

[cyan ravine]

But if you're working a basic job in video production, I wouldn't suggest that

I'd suggest something much more reasonable

[cyan ravine]

Mate I couldn't live with myself if I sent a soul out there with a 10K list to come back with a loan for an internship position 💀

[fickle peak]

XD

[cyan ravine]

If you can help me with some background here I'd be more than happy to take in your request lolol

Like what kind of mac is it

Air, m1, m2, pro 2022, pro 2018, pro desktop, mini

Etc etc

[fickle peak]

Apple Mac Pro (2019)
Xeon W-3223 | 64 GB | 1 TB SSD | Radeon Pro 580X | NL

[cyan ravine]

Ok so pretty serious rig

What kind of work do you do on the regular

Take me through the kind of things you're expecting to do

[fickle peak]

Like ai feature

rhat i can without problems design 4k things

[cyan ravine]

How often are you doing this

[fickle peak]

i just need something insane

[fickle peak]

3 times a week

[cyan ravine]

Do you know how much vram you need

[cyan ravine]

Insane comes in 100 shapes at 10K

[fickle peak]

Is 64gb possible

[cyan ravine]

Vram?

Yes

[fickle peak]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

But not on x670e

[fickle peak]

Okay

[cyan ravine]

I'm pretty sure it is using nvlink

I will double check

[fickle peak]

Ok good

[cyan ravine]

Is your cpu often capped out when you work or nah

@fickle peak

[fickle peak]

Cappef

Capped*

[cyan ravine]

Is the monitor in the budget

[fickle peak]

Nah

[cyan ravine]

What monitor have you got rn

[fickle peak]

Samsung 57" Gaming Odyssey Neo G95NC Monitor

[analog hearth]

This guy wants a BFD

oh nvm it's just a fat 32:9 💀

[cyan ravine]

What's your current storage looking like

Empty full, need hdds to spare?

[fickle peak]

Soon full

need like 2tb free

Abt 10tb xD

[analog hearth]

bruh what monster is this guy building? I wish I were here earlier to see this

[cyan ravine]

Just need to check if the board I picked is wired for bifurcation and I can hit 7K on the dot

[fickle peak]

good

[cyan ravine]

Sorry got it lower to 6K

I think A100 Ada might be worth it here

[fickle peak]

how much is it

[cyan ravine]

Nvm 10K

We'll stick to dual 4090

[fickle peak]

Is ok

So ur done?

[cyan ravine]

Threadripper won't fit so

14900K does though if you don't care about power draw

Oh wait I forgot to check the motherboard brb

Nope I need to change the board my bad

[fickle peak]

This build for 7.000$ is looks already crazy hopefully it performs good

thank you alot 🙏

[analog hearth]

I was wondering how the list went from $10K to $6.7K until I saw the that the Intel 750 drive was removed from the list. $2488.87 for 1.2TB is crazy 💀

[cyan ravine]

@fickle peak fixed it. Found a motherboard that runs multi-gpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cTTKdH

[cyan ravine]

Don't need it

Gen 4 is already crazy fast

[analog hearth]

Is it a Gen 5 drive?

[cyan ravine]

No it's optane

Optane is great

But

Optane also not really needed

Gen 4 is already great for 4K work

[analog hearth]

Oh gotcha

[cyan ravine]

There is value to optane for the very high end, but not 1.28tb worth

That's like, 24/7 server level

You can get a small capacity one of a couple hundred gb if needed tho

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7mmP6/intel-optane-p1600x-118-gb-m2-2280-pcie-30-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ssdpek1a118ga01

But the benefit of optane here is minimal

Gen 4 to gen 5 you'd be talking fractions of a second already

Let alone optane

[cyan ravine]

Let me make it clear btw @fickle peak what I just sent with the new board up here would be insane as it is

If you went threadripper you could chain more GPU's to it

Or if you need more vram you can do multiple 3090's (no SLI) or multiple vram modded 2080 Ti's

But by pure compute power that will be up there with the most stupid

If you can do water looping you could switch to $1800 4090's instead and make a custom loop for the price difference quite literally ($1200 is more than enough)

ZMT loop with two gpu blocks, a 420x60 rad at the front with a d5 pump

The cpu could go in it too but doesn't really need to

Having dual or triple gpus would be good for vms tho, source it out to multiple users or encode in parallel while you work

@fickle peak making sure you read the updated list as the first one I shared wouldn't do dual gpu

Bro's disappeared 💀

[fickle peak]

I was away

But I unterstand

Thx alot

[cyan ravine]

[analog hearth]

I was thinking about putting my RX 480 in my 6800 XT system just for screen recording for a second lol

and then I tried using OBS with my 6800 XT and changed my mind

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VZWJGP

Can someone make this list, but “girly-girl-ify” it?

[analog hearth]

don't get that mouse. it'll start double-clicking within a couple months

[lyric thistle]

yooooo free double clicking so you don't have to

[analog hearth]

I hate it

I had that mouse. It's the reason why I won't get another SteelSeries product

[tawny violet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VByYqR

I replaced the keyboard (so that you only need one companion software for peripherals) but it's still black

Realistically, getting a pink case and white parts is as good as you can do by default

Unless you're comfortable with painting your GPU/ordering a custom GPU backplate overlay
And maybe some pink cable extensions

[crimson zinc]

I’ve been trying to bump up fiancés pc, a little bit towards mine. So I figured matching it, then adjusting the colours and some parts would be better. But I’m dumb for that

[tawny violet]

It was as simple as replacing the case and adding a white variant of the same GPU

[crimson zinc]

Ah

[tawny violet]

Again, you might want to get pink/white cable extensions to keep the aesthetic clean

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126293346374?var=427328645843&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-167022-144017-7&mkcid=2&itemid=427328645843_126293346374&targetid=295818637131&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007633&poi=&campaignid=20741944540&mkgroupid=158218880387&rlsatarget=pla-295818637131&abcId=&merchantid=5085164434&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImvbGncO1hAMVrqhoCR3zIgRyEAQYAiABEgKW3_D_BwE
You can use these

[reef steeple]

hey im not that tech savvy but i was going to upgrade my prebuilt which has a 1070 and i7 8700

I was going to upgrade it with a new 850W power supply and a 4070. Do i need a new motherboard too? Im pretty sure I do not have the best motherboard but do i need like one of those 500$ expensive ones to support the graphics card?

Im good on ram rn tho bc i have 2 16gb ddr4

oh and should i get a new cpu too?

[frigid night]

A 4070 will work on your current board, although I don't believe it'll work to it's fullest potential. Especially since you are now creating a good size bottleneck with your cpu being so lowend compared to the new GPU. You'd ideally want to upgrade your CPU as well and in doing so, you'd need to upgrade your mobo. Plenty of current mobos support ddr4 still so you could potentially keep your kit, but games nowadays are seeing a benefit from 32gb ram.

[reef steeple]

would a 3080 or 3070 be better then? because I dont want to dump that much money into upgrading my pc.

i just need something that will perform a little better and move away from my 1070

[frigid night]

It really depends on which games you are going to play. Are you wanting to play the newest games out at highest graphic settings? Or do you already have set games you play that you want better performance in?

[reef steeple]

for example, I really wanted to expierence starfield on high settings. but performance was so bad on the lowest. but mods helped me play on medium settings.

just upgrading for newer games that are coming out

[frigid night]

With wanting to play newer games, I'd suggest going 40 series nividia or 7000 series amd. I haven't kept up to much on the price to performance ratio on these newest gpus, so someone else will have to recommend which one could fit your budget. Which leads me to another question. What is your max budget?

[reef steeple]

around 1000-1200$

^max though

but im not trying to build a whole new pc

as i got some new parts in my build

[frigid night]

Oh yeah I'm pretty sure you can have a solid deal going with that budget. It seems you only need a new GPU/PSU/CPU and mobo. Which leaves the ram/case/fans and peripherals out of the budget which helps immensely.

I imagine someone like @cyan ravine or @mossy venture could get you a solid upgrade without hitting your max budget.

[reef steeple]

yeah its ideal not to max it out

because i dont want to be broke 😭

[crimson zinc]

@reef steeple you could also sell that prebuilt and make a good one yourself.

[frigid night]

That's understandable. I've fell out of the PC world for a while so I'm not caught up enough to help you much more about what parts to specifically get. Just the info that stays static.

[frigid night]

I don't think it's a prebuilt

[reef steeple]

it is a prebuilt

[frigid night]

nvm

[reef steeple]

i just got a new ssd and ram in it

[frigid night]

Yeah I went back up and saw that.

[crimson zinc]

Lotta people are in the market rn for a beginner pc. That could easily fetch 300-400 for a beginner

[bronze oasis]

Hey - I’m using the B650 X AX V2 motherboard, and ive got my PC nearly ready to boot. When i turn the power on, there is a red LED that bounces between the CPU LED and DRAM LED.
I have tried using one RAM stick at a time. I did this by powering on the machine, seeing the red LED light up. I turn the power off and disconnect everything from the PC. I then pulled one of the 2 ram sticks out, connect everything back up and repeat the process. I am still seeing the light.

After going through that process i am currently clearing the CMOS and will try again soon.

Has anyone used this motherboard and have had a similar problem?

[crimson zinc]

(If you price it higher than what it’s worth, which probably isn’t that much, but it’s whatever)

[frigid night]

Do you have the ram in the correct slots? Refer to your manual, but generally slot 2 and 4 are the ones the ram needs to be in

[bronze oasis]

Yep, i double checked what slots they are supposed to be in and have put them back in place

[frigid night]

You've made sure every cable is seated fully/correctly?

[bronze oasis]

Yep, ive reconnected all the wires ive needed a few times, ensured they all are clipped on and fit. The ATX24 pin for the mono, the EPS for the CPU, and the PCIe i use for the gpu i have

[frigid night]

Alright. With you having checked cables as well as did troubleshooting with the ram.. I'd reseat your CPU and cooler.

Unless you have other ram you can try.

[bronze oasis]

Those 2 sticks are the only ram i have unfortunately. Just bought everything friday, i am definitely new to the whole building process @frigid night

[frigid night]

alright. Sounds like you have a good grasp on the process though which is helpful

[bronze oasis]

After a minute or 2, the red LED does switch from the DRAM LED to the CPU LED and stays that way until i turn it off

[frigid night]

Hm, I suppose I should have asked this earlier. DDR4 or DDR5?

[bronze oasis]

DDR5

[frigid night]

Which CPU?

[bronze oasis]

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D

[frigid night]

DDR5 likes to take it's time training on a first boot or cmos clear. Turn the PC on and let it sit for 10 - 15 minutes.

If nothing after that 10 - 15 minutes, then reseat your CPU and cooler.

[bronze oasis]

Ok nice ill try it hopefully that does it

[frigid night]

If that doesn't fix your issue, throw another message in here. I'll be home all day doing some cleaning so if I see it, I'll respond. I imagine others can offer some insight as well.

[bronze oasis]

absolutely i will, should have messaged in here earlier while i was going through some troubleshooting yesterday. I appreciate it!

[mossy venture]

I'm at work I can't atm

Ping me in a few hours

[frigid night]

How dare you have a real life outside of wegg.

[mossy venture]

I mean if wegg wants to pay me for using me as customer service that would be fantastic

(Not a joke targeted at you, targeted at wegg using us as free customer support)

[bronze oasis]

Ok, ive been letting it run for ab 20min now, and the only red LED i have is the VGA port

which to me seems like a better sign. wondering if i should just continue to let it run?

[frigid night]

Alright, try reseating your GPU and making double sure that the cables are plugged in fully on both PSU and GPU

[bronze oasis]

ok wait… i forgot to plug the vga cord in lol. i can do that while the computer is running right? i should be able to?

@frigid night

just want to be cautious with what im doing

[frigid night]

Yeah you can

[bronze oasis]

and id connect the cord into the GPU’s vga slot correct?

not the mobo’s? or does it matter

[frigid night]

In the GPU. You'll probably want to use DP or HDMI.

[bronze oasis]

Ok my monitor has no signal and it just went to sleep

red LED still on

[frigid night]

Having the cable connected or not doesn't determine if the PC boots though

Should still boot even with no display connected.

With a solid vga led, leads me to believe it's not detecting the GPU whether it be from not fully seated to not getting power from the PSU.

Pull the GPU out and reseat it. Make sure you feel it slot in all the way. Once you have lined up in the slot, it's ok to apply some pressure to make sure it's in there. A lot of time even after I here the click of the retainer tab, I push a little more to make sure.

What GPU do you have?

[bronze oasis]

Ok ill try that shortly then!

AMD Radeon RX 7600 XT

[frigid night]

I believe these use the 6+2 connectors yeah?

If so, make sure that the +2 connector is aligned correctly with the rest of the connector when plugging in.

[bronze oasis]

not certain but it does fit into the PCIe & CPU slots on the PSU i have

[frigid night]

Should only use the pcie cables in the pcie slots

[bronze oasis]

i see my fans arent running as fast as the other case fans

my gpu fans^ arent running as fast idk if that has anything to do w it

[frigid night]

Nah, GPU fans will run independently of your case fans.

[bronze oasis]

got it. ik i have a 12V2x6 slot on my PSU

is that where the gpu connection will go?

[frigid night]

Which PSU do you have?

[bronze oasis]

MSU MAG R750GL PCIE5

[frigid night]

Show me the connector for your GPU

[bronze oasis]

Sure, one sec

Do u want me to unplug the connectors and shut off the pc?

[frigid night]

Yeah, Shut off the PC, flip off the PSU, then unplug the connectors.

I just want to see what the connectors look like for your GPU

[frigid night]

This would be for Nvidia 40 series GPUs utilizing the 12vhpwr connector

[bronze oasis]

i dont know how much these help but if youd like me to take more please let me know

[frigid night]

You are good.

The cable you have closest to the camera. That's a daisy chain cable. For sake of cable management since you already have your pc opened up.. get the other single 6+2 cable that your PSU should have came with

Use that one instead. Plug the non 6+2 end into the PSU into any of these marked in red

[bronze oasis]

that would be the other cable with PCIe labeled on the side of it right

[frigid night]

correct.

[bronze oasis]

ok so i should be using both of the PCIe cables? but plug the pcie cable i just grabbed into the GPU,

?

[frigid night]

Nope. You can unplug the first pcie cable that you were using and put that back in the box.

[bronze oasis]

ok

[frigid night]

You only need 1 connector for your GPU so no reason to have the daisy chain cable out.

[bronze oasis]

oh i see now

i understand what u mean

[frigid night]

Remember to reseat your GPU. Once you've done that, go ahead and plug the connector in. Make sure that the +2 is even with the rest of the connector.

[bronze oasis]

How do i go about resetting my gpu? taking it out of the slots and putting it back in?

[frigid night]

Correct. We call it reseating. Since it's already seated, you have to take it out and put it back in. Just a quicker way to say that essentially.

[bronze oasis]

oh sorry u said reseat not reset, read right over that haha

[frigid night]

a large portion of boot issues stems from poor seating. Not that someone didn't do it right, just that sometimes things get slightly offkilter and doesn't make a full connection which then causes anything from minor to major issues.

[bronze oasis]

Yeah makes sense and im new to it all so i have no idea - very much could have been the case

[frigid night]

I was there at one point. There is a lot of research that goes into building, but once you have the basics, you have the foundation.

[bronze oasis]

I will say too, When i tried to open the SSD compartment thing in this pic, i stripped the screw pretty badly. That screw that i stripped was held in by a grommit which i had to kind of hammer out lightly in order to put the SSD card in the computer. i dont know if any sort of mechanical damage could have come from that and whether or not the mobo could have relayed that information somehow?

but i just took the GPU out and ill reseat now

just thought it might be worth to mention

I just put the GPU back in, i didnt hear a click but i definitely felt something latch @frigid night

[frigid night]

Generally a good idea to never hammer something in place on a sensitive electronic part.

[frigid night]

good. Push a little bit more to make double sure it's in there.

[bronze oasis]

Ok, i think its definitely in

[bronze oasis]

yeah that will be the last time i do something like that.. hoping that doesnt come back to bite

[frigid night]

as far as the heatsink for your nvme ssd, I believe it's ok. as long as the NVME SSD is seated in the slot and being held in place, you're fine.

a lot of cheaper motherboards don't even have heatsink covers.

[bronze oasis]

yeah i double checked that, should be ok. the SSD is def connected to its port

[bronze oasis]

good to know, gives me a bit more confidence

[frigid night]

Yeah, I mean, I have a mobo in my other PC that I somehow broke the GPU retaining tab off of.. GPU still slots in and works. Certain things are there to help, but aren't exactly needed.

[bronze oasis]

Oh jeez well yeah good to know

Should i try and power the pc on again?

[frigid night]

you made sure the 6+2 is fully seated? all looks flush?

[bronze oasis]

yep and i put that pcie cable in one of the ports you have circled in your pic

clicked in and everything

[frigid night]

May as well take the couple extra seconds to push in the EPS cable as well to make double sure. Make sure you have the EPS cable plugged into one of the cirled plugs as well?

I find redundancy works well.

[bronze oasis]

absolutely i dont mind doing this. been working on this since yesterday and i appreciate the help

[bronze oasis]

ill make sure now

[frigid night]

Once you've done that, go ahead and plug your display into the back of you GPU and flip the PSU switch and try to turn the PC on.

[bronze oasis]

The EPS is definitely in, plugged into the same place ive had it

should i try a different port?

[frigid night]

I don't think that'll be an issue.

With everything plugged in correctly, your PC should boot 🤞

[bronze oasis]

I really hope so hahah

[frigid night]

@bronze oasis While waiting, Are you able to take a picture of the back of your PSU where the cables are plugged in?

as close up as you can would be awesome.

[fading iris]

Is a display port to HDMI cable.tje same as a display port? Stupid question I know but curious

[bronze oasis]

yeah i can do that

actually i cant but ill try to get it from a couple angles

@frigid night my psu is upside down from this POV

[frigid night]

Yes, but no. DP delivers display differently than HDMI, but with a DP to HDMI, it gets converted. In most cases there won't be much of a difference in quality.

[frigid night]

Looks good. I was curious about the smaller ATX 24P connector.

[bronze oasis]

yep np!!

ill plug in now

Ok, i do get a red LED that was on for DRAM, but now is on for CPU. i expect this to switch to VGA but maybe not

it doesnt appear that the computer is booting, monitor still says no signal

Should i factor a long boot time into this? let it run for another 15-20?

[frigid night]

Alright. Next step is to reseat your CPU.

You've reseated your RAM and GPU as well as cables. So we know that it shouldn't be any of those.

With the light being stuck on CPU, that now leads to something wonky there.

[bronze oasis]

ok ill send in a few pictures once i remove the fans and cooler

[frigid night]

When you remove the cooler.. pull the CPU and take a picture of the bottom of it with as clear of a pic you can get. Do the same for the socket the CPU sits in.

The reason for a super clear pic is to easily spot anything that could potentially be wrong with either of those components.

[bronze oasis]

Take a picture of the bottom face of the cpu? or a bird’s eye view of the cpu from the top?

[frigid night]

Bottom face of the CPU. The part that makes contact with the socket on the motherboard.

What we want to look for (since we are pulling the CPU out anyways) is any bent pins. The pins are what make contact between the CPU and MOBO that allows the transfer of the data. Even just 1 bent pin can cause a myriad of issues.

[bronze oasis]

Oh man ok

for refernce

[frigid night]

I'm not thinking that there will be, but it doesn't hurt to check since we are pulling it out.

[bronze oasis]

the arrows do align in the top left corner

[frigid night]

good spread with that thermal paste. Almost looks like the top was tightened down a little more than the bottom. You'll want to make sure it's tightened down evenly across the whole IHS. To do so, when you start to install the cooler, you want to tighten down each bolt in increments in a cross/star pattern

[bronze oasis]

there appears to be some thermal paste on the green part of the cpu

[bronze oasis]

ill keep this in mind when im putting it back on

thank you!

[frigid night]

not a problem. let's see what your pins look like 🙂

[frigid night]

oh, you'll want to get the thermal paste off before you pull the CPU out.

Don't have to, but will negate any chance of getting thermal paste on the pins or in the socket.

I should have stated that earlier. My apologies.

[bronze oasis]

youre good, are you talking ab the paste on the face or the paste on the side where i mentioned?

to clean off any paste i plan on using 91% isopropyl alc and q tips

[frigid night]

just on the face is fine. The thermal paste is non conductive so it won't hurt anything by being on the PCB

[frigid night]

Good idea. Just make sure you take a microfiber cloth and wipe the face afterwards as to get any remaining residue/pieces of the swab off the IHS

the 91% will leave a film of sorts.

[bronze oasis]

the back of the cpu where sits

[frigid night]

Awesome. Looks good.

[frigid night]

perfect

Now just carefully put it back in, making sure it's seated in place.

lock the ILM and apply thermal paste. Then mount your cooler.

a very important part is making sure your cooler heatsink has even contact across the whole IHS of the CPU

You don't have to wrench down on the bolts, but you don't want them to not be tight enough as well.

[bronze oasis]

is it ok to kee the thermal paste that i had on there? i thought it was a pretty even spread but if you think i should absolutely reapply i def can

[frigid night]

It'll be best to reapply

[bronze oasis]

ok ill work on that then

do you recommend taking the paste off of the cooler as well?

[frigid night]

Yes.

It's best to start fresh when troubleshooting

[bronze oasis]

ok ill work on that now for a bit

[frigid night]

While it had a good spread on the IHS, there was a spot of thicker paste towards the bottom. While it seems it could have been a good spread, since you pulled the cooler off, it displaced a good bit of the paste so without reapplying paste, there will be spots that won't have as good of coverage as it could if you reapply.

[frigid night]

It's ok to use a bit more than you think is enough. You can never have to much paste (within reason), but having to little paste is a bad thing for sure.

[bronze oasis]

Got it ill try and apply the right amount

A cloth used for cleaning glasses isnt something like a microfiber cloth right?

[plucky timber]

I use microfiber cloth to clean my lenses

[frigid night]

so, you could honestly just squeeze a line from one corner to the other making an X on the IHS

[frigid night]

It is a microfiber yes

It's what I use.

[plucky timber]

I mean I wouldn't waste one on thermal paste

[frigid night]

They are so cheap, but he's not really using it to wipe up the paste.

[plucky timber]

oh

[plucky timber]

Cheap and high quality

[frigid night]

More so to get the film and hairs left by the 91% and qtips

[plucky timber]

ah

[bronze oasis]

Oh i was ab to use it to wipe the paste

[frigid night]

RIP

haha

[bronze oasis]

I didnt do it yet haha

[plucky timber]

lol

[bronze oasis]

😂

well good i didnt

[frigid night]

Honestly, I use a papertowel with 91% to wipe up my thermal paste

[plucky timber]

Yeah it's a waste to use it to wipe paste

[bronze oasis]

ok cool ill do that. i have a bunch of q tips but thatd take me a while

[frigid night]

it's quick and easy, and then just a microfiber to tidy up the rest

[bronze oasis]

ok will do thanks guys

[frigid night]

don't have to overdo it with the alcohol

you don't want it to pool up on the ihs

[plucky timber]

I only overdo it when I'm selling the cpu

Usually I just wipe it with tissues and reapply

I don't recommend tissues tho

[frigid night]

yeah, atm we are trying to troubleshoot a nonboot PC so trying to make sure everything is 100% kosher to rule out anything that could cause potential issues.

[bronze oasis]

removing paste off both cooler and cpu right?

[plucky timber]

I had a bit of tissue fall into the socket once

Not very fun

[plucky timber]

Yes

[frigid night]

would be ideal.

[bronze oasis]

thank you

[frigid night]

How'd you manage that?

[plucky timber]

I don't even remember

It was socket 775

So it wasn't too hard to get it out

[bronze oasis]

ok still a bit on there, some of the sides. almost afraid of trying to get the paste on the sides bc i dont want to touch the actual cpu board

[frigid night]

That'll be good enough. Go ahead and just squeeze a couple lines of paste I marked in this pic.

[bronze oasis]

Before i do should i use the microfiber cloth on this?

[frigid night]

That'll give you adequate coverage and not take up a super large amount of time

[frigid night]

Nah, You can, but at this point I think getting all the thermal paste off is just uneeded time spent for this troubleshooting.

[bronze oasis]

Got it, ill apply the paste then

[frigid night]

Ideally that's what I would do, but I'm more wanting to get your PC up and running.

I'm also OCD as heck.

[bronze oasis]

glad you answered my call for help then, this is where the OCD could become an asset haha

any adjustments before i mount the cooler back on? id think im only applying paste to the cpu?

[frigid night]

You also caught me on a day where I'm at my PC. In the last 6 months or so I've been absent from the server 98% of the time.

[bronze oasis]

Amazing timing

hahaha

[frigid night]

Go ahead and apply some dots of paste to the spots marked

[bronze oasis]

will do

[frigid night]

the smaller dots only need a little paste

put a bit more where the bigger dots are

Might be overkill on the paste.. but better to be safe than sorry.

[bronze oasis]

Yeah no worries. i did just use all of the thermal paste so i did what i could for the time being

[frigid night]

No problem. It'll be enough. Go ahead and put your cooler back on.

[bronze oasis]

How tight should i be screwing the cooler onto the mount?

like firm but not tight where i have to really force the wrench right

[frigid night]

just passed firm.

just make sure you do each screw in increments.

so top right screw 3 turns -> bottom left screw 3 turns -> top left screw 3 turns -> bottom right screw 3 turns , then rinse and repeat until tightened.

[bronze oasis]

Yep did exactly that

[frigid night]

Alright.

Plug your fans in and let's see what happens.

[bronze oasis]

turn the pc on?

[frigid night]

Send it bb

[bronze oasis]

haha alrighty one min

i can connect 2 of my fans to the fan splitter cord and then connect that to the cpu_fan port in gray right?

[frigid night]

Yes

[bronze oasis]

Also, on the lower left in the image where my F Panel cable is, those pins to the right dont need to be filled do they?

the orange and the purple in the bottom left, below the CMOS?

[frigid night]

Everything looks good. If the F panel connector was plugged in wrong, your power button wouldn't do anything.

[bronze oasis]

Haha, dealt w that last night😂😂😂 i was sticking that into the COM port

Ok just plugged the gpu you and everything, double checked the cords

Red LED on for DRAM

Wait

Wr got it

Lets go

[frigid night]

It booted?

[bronze oasis]

i have this screen

[frigid night]

That's a success!

[bronze oasis]

how do is aend a gif lmao

thank you so much

[frigid night]

That means you are now on your way into BIOS and can install windows

[bronze oasis]

Lets goo wow

what a relief ive heen working at this for a while

Do you know what that is asking me on my screen by chance?

[frigid night]

You can press DEL

Did you buy the Motherboard used?

[bronze oasis]

i didnt, i bought it new

[frigid night]

Yeah you can press DEL on your keeb

[bronze oasis]

Press Del or press the N key?

[frigid night]

@bronze oasis Thank you for allowing me to refresh my memory on troubleshooting. I hope you have fun with your new PC and congratulations on your first successful build.

[frigid night]

Press DEL key

[bronze oasis]

Absolutely and thanks for taking a large chunk out of your day to help me out when i sent the message. glad you were on at the right time

also the del key is not working, and i do have the keyboard plugged in

[frigid night]

Try pressing N

I guess you could press Y as well.

[bronze oasis]

Ill grab another keeb rq

[frigid night]

It really doesn't matter since new CPU/Mobo

[fading iris]

All display port cables I find on Amazon says 2k at 144hz. My monitor goes up to 1440p and 175hz so is it normal for all to say that or should I still try and search for one goes up to 175hz

[frigid night]

Did your monitor not come with a DP cable?

[fading iris]

Hasn't come yet

[frigid night]

The cable or the monitor?

[fading iris]

Monitor

[frigid night]

IF bought from a retailer then just use the DP that it comes with

[fading iris]

I always see people using HDMI and ur supposed to use display I heard. So I assumed u would have to buy seperate

I bought on Amazon I can find link tho rq

[frigid night]

I hardly see anyone using HDMI anymore.

As long as the DP cable is 1.4, you'll be fine.

[fading iris]

https://a.co/d/enENehu

This is the exact obe

One

[frigid night]

That'll come with an adequate DP cable. No need to buy another one.

[fading iris]

Ok thx

My PC will be on the desk so I don't have to worry about it being too shott

Short

Thx

[fading iris]

Do u know if the monitor I linked coes with a 1.4?

[bronze oasis]

i just pressed Y and the fans are spinning up more quickly, and the screen just shut off.

[frigid night]

Looking at the specs, it comes with 1.2a.

[frigid night]

Let it sit for a little and see what it does

[bronze oasis]

Ok, i do have a red LED on the CPU still

[frigid night]

You'll want to buy a DP 1.4 cable. Disregard this. A 1.4 cable won't do you any good as the port on the monitor is limited to 1.2a

[frigid night]

Hm. It posted so the CPU shouldn't be a problem.

Allow it to hang out for a little and see what it does.

[bronze oasis]

Ok will do

weird, both keyboards i tried werent allowing me to select delete for whatever reason

[frigid night]

That is odd. In my experience with PCs though is that they aren't perfect and it seems no matter what, there will be some sort of weirdness in one form or another.

[bronze oasis]

I did read someone else’s experience with a pc build, after they selected yes they were able to install windows after some time

My fans are working pretty hard rn so we’ll see

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/new-cpu-installed-ftpmpsp-nv-corrupted-or-ftpmpsp/0dbb0753-0480-4a58-8ef1-23d2281368b7

[frigid night]

You can turn the PC off and boot it up again

[bronze oasis]

Ok ill try that

[frigid night]

go ahead and select Y this time

[bronze oasis]

ok

i selected Y the first time

so select Y again? or go w N?

[frigid night]

Go ahead and select Y and see if it makes your PC go into overdrive again.

If it does then select N

[bronze oasis]

oh damn i got a diff screen

yea this is what ive been looking for hahahaha

thank you

[frigid night]

Good

[fading iris]

So is 1.2a rlly that bad

[frigid night]

No, 99% of people can't discern the difference between 144hz and 170hz.

it's so miniscule of an increase. Unlike 30 to 60 and 60 to 120.

[fading iris]

https://a.co/d/9pTAD90

Is this one good?

Thx I know difference is rlly low but still if possibly would just spend like 10 dollars to get slightly better performance

[frigid night]

This won't do you any good. Your monitor is locked at DP 1.2a. It can't utilize DP 1.4

[fading iris]

Ohh I see now. So is there a better 1,2 cable I could buy since my monitor goes up to 175 or do u think my current cable that comes with monitor would be able to go up to 175

Sorry just a bit confusing

[frigid night]

I understand the confusion. Essentially the monitor is capable of displaying up to 175hz, however they only provided a lesser DP port which means that you won't be able to utilize that extra 31hz. It's MSI being MSI in that they market it as capable of doing more than they provide so they can sell it at a higher cost. My advice to you, would be to return it as soon as you get it and get a monitor that supports 1.4 or 2.0

[fading iris]

Do u personally notice a big difference between 150 and 170?

I know u said the average person and my last PC was terrible so I know I won't know the difference but just curious

All other monitors I have seen under the budget seem to be worse

Ngl I'ma have to deal with this one just curious

[frigid night]

I do not. I barely notice a difference between 120 and 144.

Really the only games that benefit from 120+ fps are competitive first person shooters where a higher FPS reduces latency. With that, most competitive gamers would be gaming at low settings 1080p/720p to achieve as high fps as they can.

[fading iris]

Ok thx. As I said my last PC was a all in one pc that I had to physically go Into valorsnt folder to lower resolution lol so no way I'ma notice the difference. Thx a lot

[frigid night]

No problem. When I first got into the PC scene, I initially went with the highest hz monitor I could afford. After roughly a year or so, I realized that anything above 80-90 is just icing on a cake.

[bronze oasis]

ok, ive downloaded the Microsoft media installation guide, and didnt see it on my bios, even though the USB was in the computer. I loaded up BIOS, then inserted the USB afterwards.
I then decided to restart my computer which pulls up this:

and for whatever reason im not able to select options here although they are highlighted

Ive pressed the enter key, Y key, escape key. not sure what exactly is going on here

[frigid night]

Clicking doesn't do anything?

Click to enter BIOS

[bronze oasis]

Nope

I did

[frigid night]

hm ok

[bronze oasis]

I did clear the CMOS

[frigid night]

so go ahead and remove the USB and restart the PC

[bronze oasis]

ok

Sometimes i restart my computer and it cant even find my peripherals and monitor

[frigid night]

Yeah that'll be a drivers thing

BIOS just has basic drivers to allow a mouse and keeb

[bronze oasis]

didnt know that, thank you

[frigid night]

You've restarted your PC?

[bronze oasis]

i did just now its not detecting anything

i can try again

[frigid night]

Do you have another USB drive?

[bronze oasis]

yep

[frigid night]

alright.

First we gotta get you back to your BIOS

[bronze oasis]

is there a certain slot i should put the USB into?

[frigid night]

You turn the PC off and then you Turn it on. Then what happens?

[bronze oasis]

Ok i just turned it off, ill wait like a min

[frigid night]

Shouldn't need to wait

Turn it back on

[bronze oasis]

ok, i switch the PSU power on, and then press the power button on the front of the case to turn the computer on

[frigid night]

correct

[bronze oasis]

ok im back to the same screen i showed

took a few seconds

Boot failure detected

[frigid night]

Are you able to select "Enter Bios"?

[bronze oasis]

I can click it, it doesnt do anything

[frigid night]

even pressing enter?

[bronze oasis]

Correct, nothing changes

[frigid night]

What if you try on the second option?

[bronze oasis]

The Load Optimized Defaults then reboot?

[frigid night]

yes

[bronze oasis]

same thing

no response

are there shortkeys i could try?

function keys?

[frigid night]

Ok, You mentioned you've cleared CMOS?

[bronze oasis]

Correct

[frigid night]

Go ahead and turn PC off, flip the switch on the PSU to off.

[bronze oasis]

Done!

[frigid night]

Now press your PC power button 10 or so times.

[bronze oasis]

Pressing it once will turn it on, should i continue to press it afterwards?

or ig itll flip flop

[frigid night]

It shouldn't turn on if you have the PSU flipped to off.

[bronze oasis]

oh right 😂😂😂

thanks lol

[frigid night]

What we want to do is get rid of any remaining

electricity in the system

[bronze oasis]

Ok, i pressed it 10 times, not sure about how quickly i should press it

[frigid night]

Doesn't matter really. Just repeatedly making the PC make the connection that will discharge the electricity.

Now

How have you been clearing your CMOS?

[bronze oasis]

I remove the physical coin battery from the motherboard

[frigid night]

Ok, we are going to do it differently.

@bronze oasis Locate these 2 prongs on your mobo

[bronze oasis]

i think i see then

[frigid night]

take a screwdriver and make contact with both of those pins at the same time for roughly 10 seconds.

[bronze oasis]

ok

done!

[frigid night]

Alright, All the steps I have outlined since I had you turn your PC off is how you reset your CMOS. Removing the battery works, but you have to wait a while for it to actually work. This way is faster and you don't have to remove anything.

Go ahead and turn your PC back on and see where that gets us.

[bronze oasis]

Nice i will definitely do that from now on

[frigid night]

It may have to retrain your RAM so let it sit for a bit.

[bronze oasis]

should i install the USB?

[frigid night]

Not yet

[bronze oasis]

ok thank you

[frigid night]

We gotta get you into bios and change a thing or 2 depending on the BIOS default.

[bronze oasis]

Ok just started it up, ill let it run for like 20 min?

[frigid night]

Shouldn't take that long (20 min is a maximum). Just keep an eye on it.

[bronze oasis]

Should it have read my monitor/peripherals?

by now?

[frigid night]

No, it needs to train your RAM before it can post. Essentially it's trying to figure out the best configuration for your RAM to perform optimally.

[bronze oasis]

Got it, thanks and thanks again for helping out i really appreciate it

[frigid night]

Then it'll check if you have a GPU connected and if so is it working correctly. Then it'll post.

[bronze oasis]

Ill keep an eye out for that

[frigid night]

Np, I'm just having a super lazy day. I'm about to get verrry busy at work and won't have much time to relax so I'm soaking it up atm

[bronze oasis]

Me too😂😂😂😂

Not busy at work but trying to get as much help as i can from you

so when i get to the boot screen again, i probably shouldnt just switch the power off uf i dont see the USB right? i probably should have done a save and exit?

[frigid night]

Generally you'll want to save and exit if you mess with anything in the BIOS. Although shouldn't do to much in BIOS if you A) don't know what you are doing and B) don't have help from someone who does.

Without BIOS, your PC can't run. If you mess something up, you can go as far as ruining the hardware in your PC at worst or requiring a clear CMOS at best.

BIOS is also known as UEFI nowadays. They aren't quite the same thing, but essentially have the same function in terms of being what allows the PC to run.

UEFI allows more customizability.

[fading iris]

Is.updating bios as simple as going in n just pressing update it wtv

[bronze oasis]

Id be shocked if i needed new hardware, i didnt change anything at all

[fading iris]

Last time.i went on bios everything looked confusing and like hell n really don't feel like messing in there but I now I'ma.have to update bios so just curious

[frigid night]

No.

[frigid night]

How come you believe you have to update your BIOS?

[fading iris]

I think someone said if my motherboard isn't completely new or came out with new drivers or wtv that i would need to

Smth like that

[frigid night]

The only time you should upgrade your BIOS is if you NEED to.

If you are having problems with your PC that only a BIOS update could resolve. Otherwise it is recommended not to update your BIOS.

[fading iris]

Thank the Lord😭

[frigid night]

Whoever is giving you info like that.. Stop taking advice from them. They will end up helping you harm your PC.

[fading iris]

My motherboard I am waiting for is a a620m pro rs wifi m thought I was gonna have to change stuff

They r well known in here I prob just misunderstood there stuff

So besides getting Microsoft after building PC I Just need to download GPU n motherboard drivers right?

[frigid night]

Hm. Then there may be a NEED to update the BIOS.

If someone that is well known in here has given you that advice, then I retract my previous statement.

[fading iris]

This is convo

[frigid night]

Ah yes for sure listen to Fal'Cie

[obsidian wigeon]

It's not a need

[fading iris]

😔

[fading iris]

😀

[obsidian wigeon]

But you can update to apply the patch

[fading iris]

No thx lol,😭

[frigid night]

xD

[obsidian wigeon]

These vulns are only abused in edge cases