building-and-recc-chat

[analog hearth]

I need a 32:9

yeah I need it

[cyan ravine]

So 21:9 27" 1440p

I'd love to see this

It's probably like some high end model from 10yr ago

[analog hearth]

you never seen a 32:9?

[cyan ravine]

I've used 32:9's wym

Time for some real meta, after 32:9, you realise the screen space can increase upwards and you hit big tv meta

Big tv >>>

[potent portal]

LG C3 time

42 inch OLED TV that makes an excellent monitor

And probably costs about what a 32:9 screen would

[fading iris]

Check this out on @Newegg:Acer Nitro VG271U M3bmiipx 27" WQHD (2560 x 1440) IPS Monitor with AMD FreeSync Premium Technology, Up to 180Hz, Up to 0.5ms, DCI-P3 95% (1 x Display Port 1.2, 2 x HDMI 2.0 and 1 x Audio Out) https://www.newegg.com/black-acer-nitro-vg271u-m3bmiipx-27/p/N82E16824011467?Item=N82E16824011467&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-011-467-_-02132024

Thinking of getting it since it's ips and a good price imo

[potent portal]

Yeah they just mislabeled it. QHD would be a more standardized way to describe that but sadly it's not a standard.

[fading iris]

Saw a IPS. 27 inch 1440 for cheap but somehow only 60hz lol

They lied😮

Good deal?

Not good deal but do specs look bad I mean

[potent portal]

You can never tell with Acer. They have so many different models and they're all intentionally confusing names so it's impossible to decode which ones are good.

[fading iris]

😭

[potent portal]

They do that on purpose so they can push a vg271u m3bmiipx and people think it's good because the XG271U m3bmiipx got a good review, but it's a totally different panel.

[potent portal]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824005220
1366x480
683:240 aspect ratio

[cyan ravine]

Man

I've always wanted TV that looks like picture frame

[fading iris]

😭

[crimson zinc]

Man, Discord is perfect

[lone flame]

hardline water looks so good I want to do it one day

[cyan ravine]

It's a lot of work.

[lone flame]

i can imagine

[cyan ravine]

that ek block is interesting though

[lone flame]

was just scrolling through some images and saw that one, the vertical mount is so cool

[cyan ravine]

I'd never trust EK for water as far as I'm concerned but it looks cool

Yeah I have that mount

[lone flame]

oh really?

[cyan ravine]

it's the o11 evo upright config

[lone flame]

I thought EK was THE brand

for water

[cyan ravine]

it's the brand everyone knows but the number of issues you see from watercooling most of the time involve some EK in it

[potent portal]

That's what they want you to think. They price it like a premium product but they're just average.

[cyan ravine]

and also that

they're kinda meh

it's still

water

but meh

they're fittings look amazing to me but I simply can't trust them

[lone flame]

well if they are the most known and used brand,., wouldnt majority of the issues come from them regardless

since they are most used

[cyan ravine]

you could say that

we've had people in here before with bad experiences with them too tho

Personally my experience has been fine, I'm just scared to try

what when anything that could break in my system would maybe start at a couple hundred dollars

[lone flame]

what does your loop look like

i dont think ive seen it

[cyan ravine]

@lone flame

[lone flame]

that looks sick

XTX?

[cyan ravine]

Left is 4090

Right XTX

[lone flame]

2 systems?

[cyan ravine]

mhm

[lone flame]

must be nice lmao

do you have a favorite out of the 2

[cyan ravine]

I definitely prefer the AM5 (Black) one

but I want a new set of fans

P12's are really nice, but they aren't like, quality looking

My needs vs. my wants tho sort of come into play

Like I really don't need new fans lmao

[lone flame]

silent wings?

[cyan ravine]

nooo

Thermalright B12's

$12 a piece, T30 levels of performance

braided cable

@lone flame

[lone flame]

im so torn between blackout and rgb when i do a case swap this summer

[lone flame]

what am I looking at

[cyan ravine]

B12/K12 supremacy

Fans

[lone flame]

temps i assume

[cyan ravine]

yes

Sickleflow vs Noctua A12 vs B12 vs. C12(C) vs P12

and IPPC (If you like cancerous levels of noise)

K12's I'm also kinda interested in. B12's but mild rgb

omg

they have B12-S

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/374972413359

WTFFFF

WAIT

#old-cooling

[fading iris]

Does anybody or has anybody played on a curved monitor? That isn't a 32 inch and closer to 27inch

[cloud hull]

I have and currently do

[fading iris]

Do u play fps games with it if so how is the experience,

There is a nice budget friendly 27inch 1440p ips flat monitor I like which I know would do good for gaming in fps. But there is a 27inch ultra wide curved monitor that is 1440 but sadly Va

For aesthetic and racing games and car games I know I’m gonna wanna go with the curved despite it being Va. but for gaming I know flat is better. I don’t mind buying a second monitor in less then 5 months but just curious as to how the curved holds up and if it’s harder to view in certain games or at certain times

[obsidian wigeon]

Curved is almost always VA on the cheaper end

And curved gives you no benefit if it's so narrow and so little of a curve angle

[cloud hull]

I love mine and all I play is fps games

[fading iris]

Foxy I know but I'm not crazy into gaming so don't have highest expectations

Also I don't look of curved

It's like spending more money on white or RGB knowing it has no effect lol

[obsidian wigeon]

VA is inferior though

[fading iris]

Yes

[potent portal]

I have a M27QC and I regret my purchase, but I needed a monitor that day and it was all that was in stock at Best Buy that had more than 90hz

[cyan ravine]

Vast majority are VA if you want a curve

[fading iris]

Idk I feel like despite VA being inferior my last PC has terrible specs and I had to go into the game file to change val resolution to make it even lower

I feel like I won't even notice VA being that bad kinda like how u start off with 120hz u will think it's fine until u compare to 160 and so on after that y'know

[potent portal]

I would compare the quality of this $280 curved monitor to my 14 year old 60hz TV that I was gaming on before, the blur is that bad from ghosting

[cyan ravine]

You can definitely notice differences to VA and IPS

It's easily noticeable

[fading iris]

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D4-007C-00007?Item=9SIBK6TJNN4648&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIBK6TJNN4648-_-02142024

I know I'm saying I won't notice difference since I have never had ips

[cyan ravine]

Imo don't really bother with VA unless you hybrid with colour accurate/tone accurate production work or you run qled

[cyan ravine]

That's like saying I don't know what food like cos I always ate grass

If you really want curve, go for a good curve

[fading iris]

True but if ur used to dried grass n then u get watered grass ur gonna like it new option regardless

[cyan ravine]

But there aren't many good curve displays

[fading iris]

Idk tis is too hard

Lol

[crimson zinc]

Don’t bother with curved

Just do straight

[fading iris]

I want curved but at same time my expectations aren't that high so I don't need super good panel or super good anything but I know I'm long run I may regrey

[potent portal]

The halfway decent curved stuff starts at over $300 which is more than the IPS ones we normally recommend

[crimson zinc]

^

[fading iris]

😔

Ig ig

[cyan ravine]

I think you might be wise to go check out a lot of displays and weigh up in person what you want

[fading iris]

I saw it

And fell more in love with curved lol

[crimson zinc]

Curved looks cool, but that’s really where the benefits end lmao

[fading iris]

I didn't see prime difference between VA and IPS so lemme go watch it for that rq

[crimson zinc]

They’re expensive if you want a good one

[cyan ravine]

VA you get nice colours, good response, but meh viewing angles and ghosting

IPS decent colours, meh contrast, good viewing angles and great ghosting

i.e very little bad if you just throw out contrast typically

And if you get one with ulmb2 it's even more true

[potent portal]

The in store demos aren't great at showcasing motion clarity typically

[fading iris]

I always would be watchin a lot of shoes n possibly drawing which is what makes me wanna go back curved VA aswell

[cyan ravine]

These things are also true for QLED just less pronounced

Much less pronounced

[fading iris]

I think I'ma check out yt n then maybe go with ips and get the va 2 months later but idk

[cyan ravine]

Nah fam go one or the other man

Or go oled and get the best of all worlds

[crimson zinc]

^

Oled is an investment but much better overall

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cRNxFT/lg-27gr95qe-b-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-27gr95qe-b

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BBhv6h/aoc-ag276qzd-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-ag276qzd

Better^

There's also another one that's off brand rebrand that I can never remember the name of

KTC that's it

https://www.amazon.com/KTC-OLED-Monitor-Built-DisplayPort1-4/dp/B0CRDRL92Z/

Comes with a kvm this last one iirc, which makes it a leg up in value over the others

[cursive wharf]

Idk, at $800 - $1000 I think the average gamer would rather AW3423DWF

[cyan ravine]

That's $640

[cursive wharf]

KTC comes up as $800 for me

Just Amazon things ig

[obsidian wigeon]

there's a coupon to apply

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[obsidian wigeon]

it's a box to tick

[cyan ravine]

800-140

Or 160 sorry

160

[obsidian wigeon]

ye 160 off

[cyan ravine]

But I can agree with the uwqhd alienware now as it's passing burn in tests

It's not a bad alternative, bit much for a 7800XT tho iirc

I think he's getting a 7800xt

Can barely remember

[cursive wharf]

It's "unusable" for even a 4090

[cyan ravine]

Noooo

If I can easily use a 4K daily

It's usable for a 4090

Ain't no way

[cursive wharf]

Average modern AAA game cant 165 at uwqhd

[cyan ravine]

Meanwhile me

4K @120 in most games

144 w/ dlss

We're talking about the same uwqhd right

21:9

Not the 32:9 g9 right

[cursive wharf]

Ye, that is suw

iirc the guys I know are pushing settings tho

Obv it isnt impossible to get 165 on uwqhd

[cyan ravine]

Yeah well if you crank things to max then even a 4090 is at it's knees on even 1080p in some situations

But for a reasonable experience you shouldn't, not if you want to maintain good 1% lows

DF got guides on optimised visuals for that stuff

[cursive wharf]

I mean yeah, but once you're doing OLED HDR10+ becoming a graphics fanatic can be mildly worth it

[cyan ravine]

Ehhhhh

I could go either way on that one

[mossy venture]

Meanwhile I want to get a 4k60hz to play story games on my 3060 ti on

[cyan ravine]

A lot of buyers of those kinds of oleds play comp on low settings

Not really a selective gamut for these things

[cyan ravine]

Genuinely wondering if you have the vram for that rn

[cursive wharf]

I suppose, but in that case you're already ignoring DF optimised visuals

[cyan ravine]

Yes but that's the whole other end of the spectrum

At that point we're talking toaster visuals and toaster gpus

I think he did intend to only play comp games now that I think about it

[mossy venture]

I'm probably gonna upgrade with 8000 series anyways (gpus not cpus)

[cyan ravine]

So maybe he would be more than fine

[mossy venture]

I also want an oled when they get cheaper

[cyan ravine]

I think it was like, fortnite, cod and something else

[cursive wharf]

Anyways back to 7800XT. I have 3080-10 with dwf and it's meh with tuned settings. Usually do 80fps - 100fps in crab like CP77

[cyan ravine]

I'd believe that

CP77 recently took an update to make it extremely cpu heavy though didn't it

I haven't kept up much with the numbers since that update

[cursive wharf]

Mostly for PT. Which Im not doing

Dont even have RT iirc

[cyan ravine]

Iirc pre update

In like total raster

Some radeon cards were beating nvidia lol

It was about the time the XTX users were coming out with their EVC mods

You probably don't even use like, fsr 3 with that @cursive wharf do you

Iirc below like 100 fps you get mad ghosting with fsr3

[cursive wharf]

I use dlss quality

[fading iris]

If ur talking about me then yeah if not mb

[cyan ravine]

Ye

Ur playing like fps games right

Cod, fortnite, there was another

Val?

[fading iris]

For most part. It would be val, r6, and fortnite. For car games I wouldn't play off the bad but after a month or so I would go into Forza and maybe some racing games

[cyan ravine]

That's it, val r6 fortnite

[fading iris]

While also maybe using it for drawing since I have a drawing tablet

[cyan ravine]

Yeah you could do AW3423DF too

[fading iris]

But not fr drawing just fun drawing nothing serious

Before I even search up that long ass name

What's price

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wywypg/alienware-aw3423dwf-342-3440-x-1440-165-hz-curved-monitor-aw3423dwf

This is $800

[fading iris]

💀

[cyan ravine]

But it's endgame

[fading iris]

There is no doing that anytime soon

[cyan ravine]

$640?

[fading iris]

Nah first build and idk if I will consistently get into PC after

Max I would go after tax and shipping is 220

[cyan ravine]

Ah

[fading iris]

Which is why I'm thinking ips 27 I sent earlier if I didn't mb

[cyan ravine]

Well that limits options

[fading iris]

True

[cyan ravine]

Ooo ok lemme look

[cursive wharf]

Do consoles have much in HDR support?

[cyan ravine]

Boop
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W6QKHx/msi-g272qpf-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-g272qpf

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[cursive wharf]

Then again they dont really care for QHD I think. So prolly not ideal for consoles

[cyan ravine]

In the same way they have "4K"

HDR is like

Kinda there but not

💀

Yeah G272QPF looking about as peak as it gets @fading iris

[fading iris]

U suggest it more then this Acer

https://www.newegg.com/black-acer-nitro-vg271u-m3bmiipx-27/p/N82E16824011467?Item=N82E16824011467&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-011-467-_-02142024

[cyan ravine]

Yes

271u is old

[mossy venture]

On sale too, W

[fading iris]

Ok thx

Why they gotta make it such a struggle lol

[fading iris]

I think ima go with ur suggestion Felix but does anybody know if the bezel or wtv it’s called is big

https://a.co/d/fwUX5U9

Would prefer if it was los or thinner but can’t find answer off of minimal looking

[crimson zinc]

This looks like it’s on the slimmer side, if that’s what you’re asking.

[rain carbon]

I felt hurt and lied to learning that that scene actually says "good guess, but actually no"

[potent portal]

Eh. It's just a gif. Won't stop me from using it.

[rain carbon]

Ofc its nothing serious

I just found it neat

[stable cove]

So whenever I have to change all my fans I wanna see if I can get one with rgb lights. Because my case is awful dark and the cable I have on my case looks like this and there’s nowhere I can put it on my motherboard.

Kinda want some lights in my pc just so I can see all the parts and what’s going on through the glass inside my computer

[mossy venture]

Thermalright c12c or the other c12 variants

They compete with $20-40 fans, and have the aesthetics to back them up as well

Just pick whatever ones you like the aesthetic of most

[potent portal]

The gold pins come out with the little plastic piece, use pliers or something. Then it fits on the motherboard.

[stable cove]

So pull them off?

[potent portal]

Yes, and then the connector will fit the argb header

[stable cove]

So we pull just the tiny pins off or the whole plastic piece?

[weary galleon]

This part should pull out

Then the remaining connector should be female and able to connect to the motherboard

[fading iris]

Any videos that can help with cable management or how to properly wire everything

Looking for a actual video somewhat dedicated to it and not how it is in every build video where they skip half of steps

[stable cove]

Ok that just got my cable broke so later I have to buy a new fan if I want rgb

So never doing that again

I’m just gonna find a different cable to buy for rgb. That probably would be easier

[golden viper]

yes xmp is off. in fact it wont even allow me to tunr it on in the bios.

sorry about this delay its been a hell of a day!

[odd moth]

Hey chat, I am shopping for a mid tower case with a budget of 100$. Any recommendations? ATX motherboard, AMD Ryzen 7800, and 32G of Ram with the intention to upgrade.

[mossy venture]

Have you ordered anything yet? If not, could you send the parts list you're looking at?

[crimson zinc]

Immediately can suggest https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2MwmP6/montech-air-903-max-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-max-b

[mossy venture]

Specifically for case, check out g360a, p400a, g500a, 4000d airflow, nv5, sky two, king 95, o11, td500, 903 max

Also all of the o11 variants

Basically any case from fractal design with a mesh front from $60-120

[crimson zinc]

And if you can find this(somehow)

[golden viper]

I have this case and its great!!

[cyan ravine]

Try looking under windows system events in event viewer for errors or criticals that list what the restarting describes

[golden viper]

im un familiar with this but will look into tha1. thank you!

[cyan ravine]

it will list any possible reasons for your restarting

since we have nothing to go off of it would take forever to figure out otherwise

my guess is it's kernel-power

which is going to still be vague but better than nothing

[crimson zinc]

I want it so bad

It’s never in stock when I look everywhere for it

[bronze oasis]

Hi, very new to pc building. Anyone have experience with revit/other CAD software and have also built a pc for CAD purposes? After looking at autodesk’s software requirements under “Performance: Large, Complex Models” i started to look on newegg’s site for potential parts. Wondering if anyone has had experience/success running CAD seamlessly after building a PC and hoping they could share what worked and what to avoid. Thanks!

[mossy venture]

What's your budget and country?

I dont use CAD myself but I know of it

[bronze oasis]

3-4k though can change either way. Country is USA @mossy venture

[mossy venture]

@cyan ravine in cad xtx beats 4090 right?

[cyan ravine]

mhm

specifically CAD radeon is a GOD

[obsidian wigeon]

i think it was in siemens nx

that 4090 got obliterated in

[cyan ravine]

are you working with any simulation

do you find yourself needing a lot of vram or a lot of ram

[bronze oasis]

@cyan ravine What i guess do you mean by simulation? Nothing i actually have to simulate, but i do work occasionally with point clouds, and coordination models. So not only my work modeled on CAD/revit, but other trade’s work as well.
I’m gonna have to read up on vram, honestly im not familiar and i couldnt answer that question atm

[mossy venture]

Do you care about aeshetics of the pc at all? Are you going to use ethernet, or wifi?

Any personal preferences about size, noise level, etc?

[cyan ravine]

could you describe the other work

not like, irl, the tools you'd use

[bronze oasis]

@mossy venture I’ll ideally want to use wifi
I dont forsee size being an issue, this will be set up at home and ik i have a lot of space.
i would like the noise level at a minimum, ill be using this setup for work

[bronze oasis]

Hmm wdym by tools? not necessarily understanding.
In terms of my work its more of like using AutoCAD but in 3D, and i work with other teams to model out a house let’s say. We’ll meet weekly to see if there are clashes in our model. For example like if electrical conduit clashes with someone’s ductwork. Im not sure if that answer’s your question?

[cyan ravine]

like software

you say other trade work

I'm curious, what's your current PC

what are you working with rn, what's your thoughts on a budget

[bronze oasis]

Got it, I can let you know tomorrow, im not in front of my computer at the moment but ill get back to you on this.
Again im new so i dont know what’s a lot for a budget, but i think id spend 3-4k, and this would be flexible.

[cyan ravine]

alright

I'm getting the airs about this that you're unfamiliar with something decent for your needs

my thoughts are to go for something relatively lightweight

so way under 3K

so something decent, but not like, something that could do literally anything, if that makes sense

[bronze oasis]

that’s probably pretty accurate haha

[cyan ravine]

yeah so what do you do for work mate

if this is for say like, architecture

you won't need anything too crazy

[bronze oasis]

I would agree, but i do want something that lasts a long time, i wouldnt have to worry about upgrading for a while. The computer i have at work isnt bad per se but i believe i could build something faster and spend less time waiting for my model to load, especially as models grow larger

[cyan ravine]

I'm not gonna recommend anything seriously underwhelming

don't worry

[bronze oasis]

I do BIM modeling, i dont know why i didnt mention that before when you asked about work

[bronze oasis]

no yeah, no problem! i appreciate your help!

[cyan ravine]

right so like, real estate representations ye?

[bronze oasis]

Commercial buildings more so, no residential buildings

[cyan ravine]

I had the feeling it was something like this, so yeah, I'm feeling like something more mid range would be a bit kinder

[bronze oasis]

But yes that can be part of it, the real estate representations

[cyan ravine]

let me draft something up rq, you can patch through your current pc specs tomorrow and we can cross check

[bronze oasis]

that would be awesome, i really appreciate your help

[cyan ravine]

does it need wifi

[bronze oasis]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

gotcha

Is it needing to look a certain way?

like flashy

or maybe subtle

[bronze oasis]

not at all

[cyan ravine]

ok

@bronze oasis monitor? peripherals?

I can recommend a decent mouse for example

[bronze oasis]

Don’t necessarily have a preference, i dont need wireless anything but maybe that would be nice 🤷🏻‍♂️. Yeah id take any recs!!

[cyan ravine]

do you need a monitor tho?

[bronze oasis]

No, but if you have a recommendation id be open to considering getting one.
I have 3 monitors at work with my set up at work which works nicely sometimes

[cyan ravine]

right ok

headphones?

@bronze oasis headphones?

[bronze oasis]

Nope i have a solid pair of headphones! @cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

alr

something I'm thinking a bit like this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RGJTqR

for the screen, it's not like, ideal? but it'll have great colours and resolution for viewing things with clients

the thing with the screen as well, show them front-on

not from an angle

the thing with the type of screen is it's not ideal for wide angle viewing, if that's a caveat lmk

but this sort of build is quite serious, bordering high end from just over a year ago

and something like that...is already pretty extreme

that said, I don't know as I said before, what you're working with rn

if you come and tell me you have something like a 3090 or some insane quadro or titan card in the system I'd completely change tune

[bronze oasis]

Hahahha well like i said ill lyk tomorrow. The computer isnt bad honestly but i really dont have anything at home, and id like to continue my work at home or whenever id want to ya know

[cyan ravine]

oh just for home?

[bronze oasis]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

hang on, let me change the screen then

[bronze oasis]

ok no worries, thanks for putting that all together!

[cyan ravine]

may as well like, the screen is the only change to turn this also into a gaming pc

lmao

[bronze oasis]

Hahahaha fair enough

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HQyQxH

pretty much this

install the fans two in the bottom, one out the back

that should be pretty extreme for work from home circumstances

[bronze oasis]

i noticed you put in 2 SSD’s was that on purpose? asking bc im not as familiar w computers

[cyan ravine]

yes

[bronze oasis]

nice ok good to know

[cyan ravine]

Well I can put a second cheaper SSD in

but I figure you want a lot of storage to track work and organise without any performance loss

[bronze oasis]

absolutely

[cyan ravine]

you could use a cheaper SSD

like the difference wouldn't be much at all

[bronze oasis]

is it worth getting a newer intel i series cpu?

[cyan ravine]

but it's $10 a piece to make them good anyway

nah not really

12600kf is at a great discount

value for performance it's a lot for it's class

I took a whole like, value for money standpoint on this one

good mid range, not overpaying

if that makes sense

[bronze oasis]

No thats great! i appreciate that

not looking to spend too much if i dont need to

so that helps a lot

i do have some of the specs straight from autodesk btw:

https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Revit-2024-products.html#performance

if you are curious/if this would change anything

[cyan ravine]

oh yeah the 3dmouse I forgot

one sec

@bronze oasis

https://www.amazon.com/3Dconnexion-3DX-700059-Input-Device-Accessory/dp/B079Z3T2XC/

look around for this as cheap as you can find it

it's called "spacecompact" iirc

or "spacemouse compact"

3d mouse is really nice to have for pivoting

[bronze oasis]

Nice ive never heard of that actually, ill take a look

[cyan ravine]

the DA mouse is nice imo

but sometimes I find with a 3dmouse I get some advantages

they have other models, but the knob is what you want really

the extra flair is more just like, single tool use and yet you still kinda need a mouse

[bronze oasis]

Yeah seems neat, just watched a short video on it, i think the one you linked would be ideal if i went w getting a 3d mouse

[mossy venture]

Sorry I had to run, I second everything felix said

Felix, is 27q better than the msi $200 one?

[mossy venture]

Haven't even really read it, but I can gaurantee felix knows what he's talking about better than I do

[cyan ravine]

It could be, I went for one based on colour less gaming performance

So it's not purely gaming focused

I didn't check g272qpf reviews, it could genuinely be better

Actually it's better in that regard damn

Lmao

@bronze oasis slight amendment to the monitor, this one instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W6QKHx/msi-g272qpf-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-g272qpf

Sorry I had a meeting like, 5 minutes after I suggested the first one so I had to pick with what I remembered lol

[lone flame]

i got this one maybe 2 weeks ago and have nothing but good things to say about it, i jumped from 1366x733 60hz to it so it was obv a huge improvement lmao

@bronze oasis ^

[fading iris]

Idk I got confused reading that mb but u r saying the 27 is better or worse

I thought u suggested that one cause the 27q or wtv was worse💀

[cyan ravine]

Eh

Different reasons I suggested the 27Q to that guy @fading iris

His needs are not the same

I still believe the G272QPF is better for you specifically

[fading iris]

So don't get the MSI?

So hypothetically if I bought the MSI what is not wrong with it but what r its cons compared to g27

Wait I think I got the g27q idek

[fading iris]

This the one or is this diff. If not what's opinion on this one. Idc its the best jus wondering if it's a solid first buy since I chose it over the ultra wide va https://a.co/d/cDOTYn4

Names r too confusing mb

[mossy venture]

The msi one is better

Is what felix is saying

[cyan ravine]

When I give advice to another, don't assume it's also for you lol

You'll confuse yourself to death

[fading iris]

😔

I'm a overthinker

And after battling the decision between a perfect looking curved monitor or a decent looking but better quality flat one I thought u were saying ts is ass

Lol

[cyan ravine]

Lol

I don't mind getting asked a lot of questions, but if I make a suggestion, I'd be saying it directly to you

So yeah, don't stress lol

[bronze oasis]

I’ll look into it, thank you!

[bronze oasis]

So the setup i have at work is:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 eight core processor 3.2GHz
Installed RAM: 32.0GB

[cyan ravine]

Ahhhh yes

No gpu given

Ok well

Whatever gpu it ends up being this should be a significant upgrade

So yeah, I stick by the list I gave earlier with the updated screen

So this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vzQBWt

With this
https://www.amazon.com/3Dconnexion-3DX-700059-Input-Device-Accessory/dp/B079Z3T2XC/

@bronze oasis

[bronze oasis]

Awesome, I’ll research each of these just to make sure for myself. Thanks so much!! @cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

Np

[odd moth]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWMC9c

[mossy venture]

nice start! whats your budget for the rest of it, or the total build if that stuff isnt ordered yet

[odd moth]

That is what I was looking at! I am glad it was smt which could be recommended.

[odd moth]

I will def go look at those. I have never seen any of the o11 variants in person, what do you think about them aesthetically?

[cyan ravine]

are those bought parts? can I make some quick amendments

[mossy venture]

eh, i think it's overdone but can look really good

personally i prefer the sky two

[cyan ravine]

I will make it basically identical perf but better quality

[odd moth]

The eclipse looks rly cool

[cyan ravine]

@odd moth https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VNsPGP

same performance, better quality, better price

GF1 2024 has no confirmed reviews and has been speculated not to be as good as previous year models

GF A3 is fine tho

[odd moth]

Total build is looking around 1200$ usd

[mossy venture]

including monitor?

[odd moth]

Yeah

[mossy venture]

and you just gaming, or do you do anything else?

[cyan ravine]

wifi yes or no

[odd moth]

No including monitor

[odd moth]

I am learning database and data science programs atm in school

[odd moth]

Wifi yes

[cyan ravine]

dammit 7800x3d falls short

[fading iris]

Is 4100 MB/s good or nc?

[cyan ravine]

something like this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4v2Zvj

[cyan ravine]

just a marketing number, not true representation of performance

[odd moth]

4100MB/s is close to no cutting it, but since this is a personal build I would sacrifice some speed for costs

[fading iris]

Ok thx also quick question again

I clicked on list u made for him and was curious Abt the ram

I switched ram on my last list to a white one for a little extra and was wondering if the 6400 ddr5 was better or worse or same then 6000

[mossy venture]

over budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6rwHsh
less over budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JpVZvj
still over budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8nN9vj
and in budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6v2Zvj

[fading iris]

Because it's 10 bucks cheaper then the white one I had before

[cyan ravine]

alternative
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ycN9vj

[cyan ravine]

not noticeable difference

but if you want blades

they're decent

[fading iris]

Blades?

[cyan ravine]

that's their name

[fading iris]

Ohh

Mb

[cyan ravine]

lol

[fading iris]

Is blades technically slightly better or slightly worse

Because I have money for the 110 one so if that's even slightly better I don't mind but may as well switch if it's slightly worse despite difference being minimal

[cyan ravine]

not really noticeably better or worse

it's just as good imo

[fading iris]

Ok thx

[cyan ravine]

it's not that hard to get ram wrong but some brands still manage to do it

[fading iris]

Thinkn I'ma stick with the og one looks better imo lol

😭

[cyan ravine]

up to you lol

[crimson zinc]

It is a fantastic case. you just really have to find it, because it’s always sold out

[crimson zinc]

@golden viper has it and can attest to its wonder

[hardy remnant]

quick question, building rn and noticed that only 1 nvme slot has a heat sink, do I need one for the second? mb is B760M PG Riptide and the nvme for both slots would be wd_Black Sn770

[mossy venture]

nah, you only need a heatsink for a few gen 4 ssds and gen 5

[hardy remnant]

cool thanks

so

I have another question, I'm trying to install the cpu rn and pulled the lever up as one does but the socket is not losening / I can't pull it up

not sure what I did wrong

but I'm already tripping on the first step

[bronze oasis]

If i’d want a larger motherboard bc i def have the space to have one, is there anything you recommend based on the parts you picked out? ill spend some time looking at the list of compatible motherboards

[mossy venture]

btw sidenote, I'd take this over 12600k and just use stock cooler https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7xLFf7/intel-core-i5-13400-25-ghz-10-core-processor-bx8071513400

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hgGtRK
Is there a reason for ATX tho?

like do you intend to plug anything in?

[cyan ravine]

Literally $8 difference for overclocking lol

[mossy venture]

yeah but you can take out the cooler

[cyan ravine]

oh I thought that was F

[mossy venture]

also since its rpl cores instead of adl like early revisions were, it's a bit better than 12600k

[cyan ravine]

if you can overclock it sure

idk 13400 sorta fringes on that edge of what I'd use a dual tower with ima be real

[bronze oasis]

Not sure honestly, what would i be able to plug in? I cant think of anything atm but im sure theres a possibility of needing something plugged in

[cyan ravine]

That's kinda why I ask like

If there's something you want to plug into the mobo, like ok

but if not, just go matx really

[ocean umbra]

Hello! I'm looking at a combo of the MSI pro z690-A LGA 1700 and the LGA 1700 intel i-5 12600K, it mentions this but I havent built a system in quite a while, is this a part I need to buy or does it come with the m/b or CPU?

MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 LGA 1700 Intel Z690 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard
CPU Socket Type: LGA 1700 * Dedicated LGA1700 mounting bracket is required.
Option: PRO Z690-A DDR4

mounting bracket part...

[stoic island]

Mounting bracket is sometimes needed for the cooler if the cooler doesn't come with the appropriate mounting hardware for lga1700

If the cooler you're getting supports lga1700, you don't need a separate bracket

[cyan ravine]

which is basically, never nowadays

any new cooler comes with one

pcpartpicker needs to update so many things

[ocean umbra]

thanks @cyan ravine , i havent build a box in so long i was curious ! last one i built i ordered the wrong mb/ cpu combo they were switching "lake" versions so often so I'm wary 🙂

[cyan ravine]

all good

it's worth checking

[fading iris]

If my PC is going to a blue error screen is there any way to still get info from it like files and etc

[potent portal]

Absolutely. You can usually just plug the storage drive into another computer.

[fading iris]

Oh sorry needed to specify

It's a all in one so would I just take the back of it off and find the storage drive?

Or would be diff

[potent portal]

Same deal. All in one PCs are usually just big laptops.

They even use laptop memory and processors

[lyric thistle]

or if you're super unlucky it's all soldered to the motherboard like a cheap laptop :)

[weak flint]

or like a 4 thousand dollar macbook

[lyric thistle]

same thing basically

[potent portal]

Even most macbooks have removable storage though.

No guarantee it's a standard form factor but it's removable

[golden viper]

fortunately and unfortunately since this most recent wipe it hasnt had this issue but I'm not convinced it will go away. I will keep you posted once I'm able to recreate it which if im not wrong wont take long lol

[rain carbon]

Apple 🤢

[bronze oasis]

So i realized the gpu i have is an AMD Radeon RX 580… im not sure how this compares to todays gpu’s?

[mossy venture]

It's a bit worse than the 3050

[bronze oasis]

how bad is the 3050😂

[analog hearth]

Just don't even bother

[mossy venture]

Not good

1660 super ish

It's entry level

[bronze oasis]

what does 1660 mean in this context?

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt suggest a 580 to someone about to build a pc unless they had a $275 budget or something like that

It's a gpu

1660 super

[mossy venture]

They go for I think $60-80 used typically

[bronze oasis]

Wow

well ig thats why im here right

[mossy venture]

I could be wrong on that

[rough totem]

Someone I know would love to have a streaming gamer PC, but balks at a possible $2k price tag. Would anyone recommend a build to beat that?

Uh, please

[mossy venture]

How's this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R879vj

[rough totem]

Nice. And a couple of monitors?

[mossy venture]

Msi 27 whatever it is, 1440p IPS at $200

[rough totem]

This?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4MQYV67?psc=1&th=1

[mossy venture]

Yeah thats it

[rough totem]

Wait, does that need a cooler?

[mossy venture]

Has a stock cooler

Phantom spirit evo, phantom spirit, or 214xt if your friend wants a diff one

[rough totem]

Any good memory to be had from Neweegg for $98?

How about this?
https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb/p/N82E16820985004?Item=N82E16820985004

[mossy venture]

Eh

Try for 6000c32 or 6000c30

[rough totem]

That case in your build is currently sold out on Newegg

[mossy venture]

I mean, does it really have to be wegg?

What's the reason?

Oh

I see nvm

Nv5, 903 max, g360a, sky two, td500

Have him check those out

[rough totem]

Wal-Mart has the G360A for $80

[mossy venture]

Sky two like $8 more and imo much nicer but it's personal preference

[rough totem]

And it comes with a free graphics card holder, SCORE

I don't know what he thinks, but I'd prefer g3 myself. I like front mounted fans better

[fading iris]

Why do you need to download drivers for gpu

Just curious ngl

[cyan ravine]

cos the gpu won't run without them?

same with your motherboard

chipset drivers are important

[fading iris]

So how does ur PC work in first place

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[fading iris]

Do I need to download everything on laptop before hand n put on USB?

[cyan ravine]

you should

[fading iris]

I thought I only needed to do that with windoes

Windows*

[cyan ravine]

even linux

windows update doesn't cover good gpu drivers

and gpu drivers are unstable af

imo it's better to be able to download as you learn you have different versions as options

in case things go wrong

[fading iris]

So I build PC and then download all drivers for motherboard, GPU, and windows and then after turning on PC I install thru there?

When u say be able to. Do u mean that it's possible to do that or it should be possible

[cyan ravine]

mhm

[fading iris]

Mb just confused as to if I should do everything before hand

Or wait till turning on PC and then do it

Also got one last question after this

[cyan ravine]

the usb stick with windows on it will take you to the installer

[fading iris]

Ok so just pre do windows. Got it

Last question is do u need drivers for CPU cooler and fans

To specify argb for both

[cyan ravine]

no

well

no...

unless it's nzxt or corsair

because

[fading iris]

Then how do u switch cool colors👀

[cyan ravine]

they want to ig

[fading iris]

Thermalight for cooler and fans r argb but coming with case

[cyan ravine]

you download rgb software, I thought you were talking about fan speeds

[fading iris]

Ohh

And will that work with the color and the fans

Or two different softwares

[cyan ravine]

sometimes two different

or maybe 3

[fading iris]

Ok thx

[cyan ravine]

often 1 if you plan well

[fading iris]

3???

[cyan ravine]

yeah sometimes

[fading iris]

No planning😎

[cyan ravine]

you'll be fine

openRGB if you want all in one

[fading iris]

Let's hope lol

Thanks

Wait

So don't need any informative questions answered but another curious question

What Abt the PC builds where it's their first time turning it on and all fans and coolers r same color

Did they just go in and set everything before turning on camera again lol

[cyan ravine]

yep

[fading iris]

I have been lied to😔

[vagrant thistle]

Is the windows 11 home necessary like the builder

[empty pollen]

os is a must on any pc

[vagrant thistle]

No no I mean the

[mossy venture]

Paying $100 for it is not a must

[vagrant thistle]

Disc thing

[mossy venture]

Nah

[vagrant thistle]

Ya that’s what I mean

[mossy venture]

Especially if you already have a windows device

[empty pollen]

windows is free anyway

[vagrant thistle]

Wym like another pc

[empty pollen]

license only unlock you some security and accesibility things.... and delete that pesky watermark

but you can download and install windows for free

[mossy venture]

Just search "windows media creation tool" on Google, download it, use the installer to install windows on a USB, plug the USB into new build, download windows, when it asks for an activation key skip it, and then sign into Microsoft account

And it carries the license over

I've used the same license for half a dozen machines

Or you can just leave it inactivated, or you can buy a $10-30 key

[vagrant thistle]

Alright appreciate it

[hardy remnant]

Hey there, I finished my build yesterday, but I'm running into 2 issues.

The pc does boot and throw me into BIOS, but the front case fans are not spinning, the rest are. They show up in BIOS though.

One of my DDR5 Ram does not get recognized.

Could this be a bios issue? I really really don't want to take out the ram if there's another fix to try because those sit right under my tower cooler and I would have to take that one out again as well.

[cyan ravine]

I got a couple minutes

turn off the pc

double check the ram is clipped in properly

make sure all the fans are plugged in

Edit their curves in bios to get them working

[stoic island]

Ram not being recognized is very very unlikely to be a bios problem

[hardy remnant]

ram is properly clipped in the correct channels, fans are in

[cyan ravine]

reseat the ram then

[stoic island]

Either the CPU has bad contact, or the ram has bad contact

[cyan ravine]

straight up the ram not showing up yeah, it's a seating issue

[hardy remnant]

reseating it will take a while ...

[cyan ravine]

if you do the cpu yeah

try another ram slot

[hardy remnant]

I might have to ask again later, no time atm

[cyan ravine]

reseat the ram

[stoic island]

If the CPU cooler has to come off, make sure to reseat CPU too to cover that too

[hardy remnant]

which one would be preferable? keep the first one in but just try one of the others?

[stoic island]

Good luck whenever you do it

[hardy remnant]

thanks

[cyan ravine]

sometimes the ram can be in perfectly and it's still a problem

[stoic island]

Small chance that one slot on the board is dead, small chance one stick is dead, pretty big chance that it just has bad contact

[hardy remnant]

aye...

[stoic island]

Like if for some reason a hair is on the contact, it might have problems, even if it's fully inserted

[hardy remnant]

I'll take it apart later today and come back with my findings, thanks

[manic cloak]

HOLY CRAP FOLKS

[potent portal]

jfc took long enough

[manic cloak]

nearly 3 months 😭

And no joke

The email said "your credit has already been approved since Feb 14 2024"

Like that's the day you sent it out

10.84x2 + 76.50 then 552.70-Ans is..

454.53

For a 7800xt :)

But in reality I only paid an extra 274.53 because I sold my 6650xt for 180$.

[cyan ravine]

We already died and came back

[manic cloak]

I'm naming my kid Hannah istg

she clutched up with enough cashback for Persona 3 Reloaded

[obsidian wigeon]

damn

That took like

Me dying once then coming back

[west oxide]

Are Thermaltake aio decent or should I avoid them.

[cyan ravine]

Meh

[manic cloak]

Depends what size, if we’re talking 360mm then ya best bang for buck especially with the Aqua Elite V3 I think it’s called, 240/280 is pointless and buy a air cooler (phantom spirit) for better value and probably better performance

[cyan ravine]

That's thermalright not thermaltake

But understandable I also make that mistake

[west oxide]

Yeah I mean thermaltake they got a 360 with lcd screen looking into.

[hardy remnant]

So turns out the clips on the ram slot are broken, just hanging loosely on the side, they have no resistance at all

what config do i use for my ram now? i really dont want to replace this mb and dont plan on upgrading my ram

4th slot is broken, first ram sits in 2

[hardy remnant]

hmmm my front fans are still not spinning tho

[hardy remnant]

I tried to edit the curves to get the fans to start but they won't. They are the SP120 Elite, 3- 1 in cha_Fan 2 and 2 via splitter in cha_Fan 3 tried to set them to PWM and monitor cpu but nothing, they pop up on bios just don't spin

[hardy remnant]

got them to work no idea how but I'm not going to question it

[cyan ravine]

the ram working?

[rough totem]

How much difference does an NVidia card make for VRChat, compared to AMD?

[cyan ravine]

not a lot

people will argue there tends to be a bit better frame pacing on nvidia's side

but the variation is so small from the tests I've seen it's basically negligible

I'm talking VR in general btw

I don't remember specifically vrchat

welp I'm out

[weak flint]

hi out

is there anyway i can set my ram profiles to not reset on bios updatE?

[stoic island]

You can usually save your bios profile to a USB drive

[hardy remnant]

like a charm

thanks for the help

[cyan ravine]

Which slots are they in tho

[hardy remnant]

2, 4

[cyan ravine]

Ah ok

All good then

[hardy remnant]

I blasted them with compressed air, closed the slots again, reopened and pressed a bit harder and they clicked in

[cyan ravine]

That's the way

And now they work eh

[hardy remnant]

yup

[cyan ravine]

Ye just bad contact or smthn

[hardy remnant]

no idea what happened to the fans, i set them to pwm, set one to dc, rebooted a couple times and then they just started working

not going to question that, my temps are fine

but i forgot to edit my ram settings so they are still running slow atm

[crimson zinc]

My pc had a problem after switching cpu from 1300x to 4500.
Literally would not let me turn it on, gave me problems galore even with a bios update for compatibility. 7 days of trying different fixes.

All of a sudden it booted one day, I never questioned it after. Never gave me another problem.

[hardy remnant]

it do be like that sometimes

[analog hearth]

CPU swaps typically make the motherboard take around five minutes to boot. That’s actually normal and it's never mentioned often for some reason

It's basically like the motherboard is chatting with its new CPU friend

[crimson zinc]

I was aware of the dangers and measures taken
And had expected this
I left it on for 3 hours the second day, nothin

[analog hearth]

Interesting

Maybe that’s just old info I guess

[crimson zinc]

I no longer have that pc
But it’s still a wonder story

[analog hearth]

I swap CPUs all the time though and I usually never have issues. So that’s quite odd

[fading iris]

Does anybody know.how to return a alrdy delivered item?

Opened up not used at all

[crimson zinc]

@cyan ravine , I need you once more

Friend of mine would like a small, black pc. Doesn’t need fancy lights. Just something the size of his Xbox and cheap.

Medium size is fine(I asked small, medium, or large sized pc

[mossy venture]

budget?

also how small is small, mitx?

[fading iris]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jaxx2005/saved/

Would this build fit into this case? (Ignore the case in the list)

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811197034?Item=N82E16811197034&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-11-197-034-_-02162024

[crimson zinc]

asking and asking. Gimme a moment.

[potent portal]

If you want small... https://www.newegg.com/asrock-industrial-4x4-box-7735u/p/56-179-001?Item=56-179-001&cm_sp=product-_-from-price-options

[crimson zinc]

@mossy venture $1250 and doesn’t need to be micro, just not a massive case.

[potent portal]

Either your saved parts lists are set to private or you gave the wrong link.
Chances are whatever it is will fit that case, as long as it's not some crazy eATX board or the GPU is longer than 410mm.

[mossy venture]

just gaming?

any other preferences, wifi needed?

[crimson zinc]

Yes. And yes.
He’s not too into any powerful software. Just a plain Jane black pc.

A cheap monitor, kb and mouse too.

1tb of storage though.

[mossy venture]

I'd say thishttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wq8kmD
with this monitor
https://www.ebay.com/itm/256347779312?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=IZv0H-iASTG&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[fading iris]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4yPPcH

Just want to make sure. Ordered same exact case from one I linked earlier but ordered a full tower so order same one but in mid tower

Want to be able to have my PC on my desk so gotta switch

[potent portal]

Easy fit

Full tower vs mid tower is just marketing terms, there's no official spec or even guidelines

[mossy venture]

@crimson zinchey just wanted to make sure you saw this

[fading iris]

Ok thx

[crimson zinc]

Thank you

[rough totem]

Are micro ATX cases good for gaming?

[prime coral]

What do u guys think of LCD screens on CPU coolers, GPUs or even the whole side panels of cases? Do u guys think they're worth the money?

[mossy venture]

No

You can add one with a raspberry pi display, or a tablet or old phone

[prime coral]

Oooh true

But raspberry pi displays are still quite expensive

[mossy venture]

Like $40

[prime coral]

Fr?

[mossy venture]

One sec

[prime coral]

They're like a couple hundred here

[analog hearth]

Raspberry Pis have gotten expensive. It's best only if you have one on hand

But they make small screens that connect directly to your PC's HDMI port

[mossy venture]

https://www.amazon.com/HMTECH-Raspberry-Pi-Monitor-Non-Touch/dp/B09MFNLRQQ/

[prime coral]

That's what I mean. Sorry, should've clarified that I'm only aware of raspberry pis and not their respective displays.

Do standard raspberry pis come with HDMI ports?

[mossy venture]

You don't need a pi

[prime coral]

Sorry I feel like this might not be the right channel for this

[mossy venture]

It just connects to your pc

It's made for a pi but you can put it in your pc for a mini display

[analog hearth]

I forgot that Pi displays advertise that they work with RPis despite being normal displays lol

[prime coral]

Ooooh

Hmmm

Could u sync the display to show like CPU and GPU temps

Like the LCD screens on the CPU Coolers have

If so, I imagine that they would have to connect to the OS first before you can see them, whereas, if I'm not mistaken, the CPU coolers work off of the hardware (so they boot up quite quickly)

Please do correct me if my understanding of this is wrong

I know very little about these things and would love to know when i have got something wrong

[mossy venture]

I think so

Displaying cpu temps that way isn't really beneficial

[prime coral]

Most overlays I've dealt with are obnoxious tho. Unless you can recommend one, I do think it can help, at least with higher end CPUs

[warm mesa]

Can i send a List of my pc parts in here? (It is in text)

it changes pretty often though...

[pseudo pollen]

ok, but why

[warm mesa]

I was curious if it is good

And it is written in a way someone doesn't really usually do

[mossy venture]

?

How would it help

[pseudo pollen]

Alright, send it here, but preferably send a pcpp list

[mossy venture]

It's the exact same as using a software to view your temps, like hwinfo64

[warm mesa]

Honestly, i'd need to redo the list Then... i can make that though ig...

[pseudo pollen]

only takes a few minutes to make the list

[warm mesa]

But there is the already prepared list:```
Mainboard: ─ ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI) (Nuvoton NCT6798D)

PSU: ─ Be Quiet Straight Power 11 Power Supply, Black 1000W 80 Plus Gold

CPU: ─ Intel Core i9 10900K @3.7GHz Base Frequency
CPU Cooler: ─ Liquid Freezer 2 360

RAM: ┬1. 16GB DDR4 @3100MHz
├2. 8GB DDR4 @3100MHz
├3. 16GB DDR4 @3100MHz
└4. 8GB DDR4 @3100MHz

GPU: ┬1. Intel UHD Graphics 630
├2. Asus Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 TI TUF Gaming
└3. Gainward Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

System drive: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 (S4EWNM0NC25426B)

Internal HDD/SSD: ┬ Western Digital 1TB SATA 3.5 Hard Drive
└ Intel 180GB SATA SSD

External Storage: WD Elements 25A2 USB Device 2TB

case: ─ be Quiet! Dark Base 700 Window Highend PC Case LED Lighting BGW23

[pseudo pollen]

it's an older build

[prime coral]

to keep an eye on your temps

make sure its not overheating

[pseudo pollen]

with a 1050 ti for some reason?

[warm mesa]

i happen to own one so why not?

[pseudo pollen]

there's really no benefit

maybe taking a bit of the load off the main gpu for secondary monitors

[warm mesa]

I just use that for Cuda for SheepIt

[pseudo pollen]

ah fair enough

[warm mesa]

but it is a competent system with a 2021 CPU?

[pseudo pollen]

it's more of a 2020 cpu

yeah it was released mid 2020

it's not the best system, with a really weird ram config, but still really decent

[warm mesa]

Yeah, i got a PC after a Internship and i yoinked some of it's ram from there...

[pseudo pollen]

Nice

[warm mesa]

and since my PC had at the start (about april 2021) had only 32GB of RAM that was a decent upgrade

[pseudo pollen]

32gb is still a good amount

[warm mesa]

and now 2x8GB from the other PC is now 48GB of RAM

So i got 2x16GB and 2x8GB at 3.1GHz

[pseudo pollen]

yeah, that's why I thought it was weird

[weary galleon]

You might be losing some cpu perf with mixed ram like that

[limber oyster]

Microcenter is a trap

I never walk away empty handed

Just spent like $380

[prime coral]

bro what cpu u running with the 3080

[limber oyster]

9 5900X

64GB 3600mhz cl16 g.skill trident neo

[prime coral]

damn I definitely thought u were gonna slap a 128gb kit on me lmao

but very impressive

how much did the build cost altogether?

[limber oyster]

Too much

3080 got me $1500 alone

[prime coral]

was it an OC or TI?

[limber oyster]

Regular

Got it at release

[prime coral]

ah

logical

And what mobo

[limber oyster]

Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero Wi-Fi x570

[prime coral]

sheeesh and the liquid cooling

do u have a parts list

[limber oyster]

With an Asus ROG Thor 1000w+ platinum psu

[prime coral]

gah dayum

[limber oyster]

8TB of gen 3 nvme storage

[prime coral]

bro that's overkill lmao

[limber oyster]

Not when you have a 400 game steam library and used to get 12Mbps download

[prime coral]

fair

u gonna upgrade to 128gb of ram tho?

for bragging rights maybe

[limber oyster]

Maybe when I go am5

[prime coral]

ah

[limber oyster]

Or am6

I want to get my monies worth out of my $1500 GPU

[prime coral]

how much vram does the 3080 have again

[limber oyster]

10

[prime coral]

logical

[prime coral]

sick

[limber oyster]

Not really

There's a 12GB version

[prime coral]

I'm new to PCs lol

Still working things out

Sorry

[limber oyster]

You're good

But yeah, my next upgrade will be a whole new system

And I'm gonna build my own case

[prime coral]

awesome

[limber oyster]

4 360mm radiators, 12 120mm fans

[pearl gulch]

Does PC Part Picker have any pro services for building someone's rig for their lazy self?

[limber oyster]

Nope

Just a list making website

[potent portal]

If you have a microcenter near you, I know they do that

[crimson zinc]

Often times there’s subreddits for most towns. You can always ask on those if you’re in a well-populated town. @pearl gulch

[pearl gulch]

I think I'm more likely to build it myself at that point. I just remember telling myself last time that the one time for the experience was good enough. I was pretty stressed by the fact that I bought a cheap case for some expensive parts... and the case was like wish.com level cheap.

the case wasn't cheap, but it definitely was made cheap

[crimson zinc]

Always buy a good quality case.

[pearl gulch]

i want to buy one of those fake out cases, where it looks like a 90's PC on the outside.

[potent portal]

Sleeper

That's the term for it

Same term with cars

[obsidian wigeon]

I don't recommend using high end parts with those case designs ngl

They will easily choke those parts from air

[potent portal]

Generally yes, it takes a lot of work to improve the airflow enough to be acceptable without ruining the aesthetic. But it can be done.

[obsidian wigeon]

Also you could ask one of us for pc recommendations

Building is always better value than prebuilts

(Unless it's covid prices)

[potent portal]

Cheap cases are at least going to work, they just tend to be harder to build in unless you pick the right ones.

[pearl gulch]

my cheap case has no bays for HDD's.

[lyric thistle]

just means you need to get a powered usb cage to put them in 😎

[pearl gulch]

as a person who has only built 1 PC ever and doesn't look at hardware except once every 2 years...
that sounds inconvenient to not know 😛

[potent portal]

Most modern builds don't use HDDs, they use M.2 drives. But you can still use a HDD, you don't need to mount it down. The mounts only help with vibration.

[rough totem]

Don't even lay it down. Prop it up against the fans, imagine the HDD temps!

[pearl gulch]

that's what I did, my HDD just lays on the bottom of my current PC. I use a combo of 1 SSD and 1 HDD. The HDD holds anything with high read/write.

[analog hearth]

Lemme tell you about this one dude who used to be in this server named Kenzie

[flint sapphire]

[analog hearth]

Dude kept hard drives on the floor of his PC 💀

[pearl gulch]

there's literally no place to put mine in the case I got. I can't even install a holder, it lays diagonal at the bottom...

[mossy venture]

What case?

[pearl gulch]

a case i bought 2 years ago that looked good, but was not good. 😛

[lyric thistle]

there's spaces in my case but they're occupied or uninstalled lol

just get a hard drive enclosure

[pearl gulch]

im in the process of replacing the whole thing right now, it's going to be a hand me down

[cyan ravine]

@late fjord u like the S12's?

[late fjord]

So far they have been great

[cyan ravine]

Sweet

Been a while since I recc'd them, not many I know out there with them

Not a lot of data either

[late fjord]

I ordered another set in white for another build I'm making for a friend.

[rough totem]

TWO rear exhaust fans?!?! 😲

[analog hearth]

I have three exhaust fans

[cyan ravine]

I have like 6

[lyric thistle]

I have two

[cyan ravine]

Lmao

[analog hearth]

need a fourth

[lyric thistle]

one 92mm and one 120mm psu fan lol

[analog hearth]

might put a screen there though

[cyan ravine]

Some cases have a layout made for exhaust

Like the new TT ones

[late fjord]

Technically the regular o11 dynamic does not support rear fans but I fit 2 80mm in the slot. Took a bit of creativity

[analog hearth]

Discord mobile upload is garbage wtf

[cyan ravine]

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

Oh man that really compressed tho

That photo compressed indeed

💀

[analog hearth]

It's more worth it to upload it to my Nextcloud server and upload it from there instead 💀

actually imma test that

[late fjord]

So loading up enshrouded I was getting 50fps in my base. 1440p high settings. Now I'm getting 120-130 fps 👀

[cyan ravine]

Jeez that's a massive jump

I would've thought the 6750 had a bit more pull than that

[analog hearth]

took longer than expected because I lack redundancy 💀

[crimson zinc]

What, you don’t like 2 separate buttons for files/camera, and pictures?

[analog hearth]

still looks like trash 💀💀💀

[cyan ravine]

I love having a button to pay for someone else's subscription available ALL the time

[crimson zinc]

Literally

I press the button, and get brought to another page

On accident

[cyan ravine]

Thank god there's another page

I would probably uninstall the app if there wasn't

I fat finger this app way too much

[lyric thistle]

who doesn't

[crimson zinc]

Boom, instantly gifts and charges you every time you push it

[lyric thistle]

phones are bad

[crimson zinc]

Unfortunately, I can’t drag a 20lb pc into a hospital in another state at will

[lyric thistle]

then don't

[crimson zinc]

You drive a hard argument…

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-we-do-a-little-trolling-pvz-plants-vs-zombies-sunflower-gif-3337450740418381518

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/flowey-flowey-the-flower-undertale-frisk-gif-18561722

[late fjord]

Bit of coil whine on this card

[cyan ravine]

Is it a quiet card

Otherwise

[potent portal]

Set a fps limit and it usually goes away

[lyric thistle]

card likes to pump out as many frames as you let it

/ as many as it can

[late fjord]

Thankfully I wear headphones usually

[cyan ravine]

Quiet cards you'll hear the whine more

[late fjord]

Think part of it was the default fan curve too. Changed that and it's not as bad now

[limber oyster]

New drive is in, os is cloned over, and new psu is in

[fading iris]

Just got a 25 dollar gift card. Any good games on steam? Under 25 with tax

In general into more fps games so if there r some that aren't super popular but a nice fan base you could suggest that but I am especially into horror games

[potent portal]

Battlebit

[cyan ravine]

Battlebit

[south cliff]

W

[fading iris]

Searched it up does it have a lot of options for guns n stuff or just a nice game when ur bored only

[potent portal]

The 2 big things are 254 players on one map and fully destructible environments with decent physics

It's still early access so they're adding new things and balancing as they go

About 50 guns so far I think

Different gameplay modes