building-and-recc-chat

[mossy venture]

Like this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304194684486?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=cMVgVGLbSiy&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[pearl gulch]

how dare you apologize for helping me

[stable cove]

So this is one of the cables that is in my case but there’s no where on the motherboard or power supply to put it so do we need this one or is it just for lights?

My online motherboard manual says something about a data hard disk drive. Do I need to go buy one of these?

[naive latch]

Vetroo 1000W White Power Supply ATX 3.0 Ready Dual PCIe 5.0, 80 Plus Gold Full Modular

What y’all think abt that

[charred fern]

it just means any storage device

like a sata ssd or m2 if supported will work

[rain carbon]

How do yall here feel when you get asked the same questions all the time

Id imagine it gets repetitive

[stable cove]

Yeah it’s just Felix only gave me the 2 tb storage for the motherboard. I’m just not sure if I need the sata drive for my pc to turn on or not

My case manuals telling me I need an ssd or hdd drive so wonder if I need to buy one or not in order to get my pc turned on

[stoic island]

All you need is 1 drive of any kind connected internally and it should be able to boot

Doesn't matter if it's a m.2 SSD or 2.5in SSD or 3.5in HDD

[stoic island]

Rely on your motherboard manual for anything about operating it, case manual only tells you where things go

[vivid copper]

I'd find a better PSU from a more reputable brand.

[naive latch]

Are there any reliable extension brands that would change my psu cord to 12vhpwr

Bc I can keep the one I have if I get that connector

[vivid copper]

What PSU do you have?

[naive latch]

Qp850w

[vivid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-rabbit-cute-gif-15676652

[naive latch]

Hold up I forgot the name and I took it out of my cart

The pq850m

[vivid copper]

So do you own that one already or are you looking to buy a PSU with a 12VHPWR connector?

[naive latch]

Well I ordered it unaware it didn’t have one

I was just gonna send it back but I wanted to go ahead and order whatever my replacement is but if I don’t have to I won’t

[vivid copper]

Cancel the order. Has it shipped?

[naive latch]

Yeah

That’s why I’m tryna find out of if I should get a new one or if a connector or extension will work

[vivid copper]

Welp you got a couple of options, if you want to use extensions you can. Cable mod has just the 12VHPWR extension by itself...or sells it with a kit for all your cables.

[naive latch]

It doesn’t have one for mine I already checked

It doesn’t have cables

I don’t know abt extensions because idk what im plugging into what

[vivid copper]

Extensions will work with any PSU they are universal

[naive latch]

Wait would this work then or should I just go with an extension

[stoic island]

Keep in mind cablemod just recalled some of them
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2024/GPU-Angled-Adapters-Recalled-Due-to-Fire-and-Burn-Hazards-Manufactured-by-CableMod

[naive latch]

AsiaHorse PSU Cable Extension Sleeved Kit, ATX Compatible with Universal Connectors, 30cm in Length, Compatiable with 3090Ti 4070Ti 4080 4090, with Cable Combs https://a.co/d/02xkG1L

[vivid copper]

Not talking about the 90 degree adaptors...their actual cables are deemed safe still.

[naive latch]

It comes with a cable but idk if it works with any psu

[vivid copper]

Yes that whats Cable Mods extensions are. It basically replaces Nividia's adaptor you would get in the box.

[stoic island]

The full cables are fine for now, but just keep it in mind until we get more info on if this extends to their extensions

[naive latch]

CableMod E-Series Pro ModMesh Sleeved 12VHPWR StealthSense PCI-e Cable for EVGA G/G+ / P/P+ / T (White, 16-pin to Quad 8-pin, 60cm) https://a.co/d/cKHBeIk

So this would work with mine psu to my gpu

And it’s not gonna blow up

[vivid copper]

no wait that's not an extension

That's a cable replacememnt

[naive latch]

Okay so not that

Lemme go look again Hol up

[vivid copper]

https://a.co/d/gmi1lSv

[fading iris]

Can someone help me with a personal irl banking question?

[vivid copper]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask that.

[fading iris]

No it's nothing crazy just never learned how to deposit money so I found out but was curious as to if when I show up would I jus show id n credentials

[naive latch]

CableMod Pro ModMesh Sleeved 12VHPWR StealthSense Cable Extension Kit (White, 16-pin to Triple 8-pin) https://a.co/d/73LNNnv

Would that be it with everything else

[fading iris]

Sounds stupid asl but even tho I'm 18 everything was setup by dad n never learned so jus needed someone for quick advice

[naive latch]

Or do I need to do it separately

[fading iris]

Wdym wouldn't it be with everuthing

R u asking if those would come with ur power supply when u buy?

[naive latch]

Nah im tryna not blow my pc up and get a 12vhpwr extension

[fading iris]

😭

[vivid copper]

Yeah that's the whole kit....would have everything you would need.

[fading iris]

Idk anything Abt that so ignore anything I said

[naive latch]

Thank you very much sir

[fading iris]

But it's same as the wires u get with power supply jus a diff color I think

[vague oracle]

Basically you need ID and account number

[covert vapor]

My bank just asks account number for deposits

[fading iris]

I don't know account number since my banking app wont show but someone told me to in and show id which should work. Thx

Also is fhd for a monitor bad?

[strong raft]

Not at 25" or smaller

[mossy venture]

Fhd means 1080p

[cyan ravine]

Extensions work by slapping them on the end of your existing psu cables. Also, for the PQM PSU you wanted to order. You can use Seasonic based cable kits instead for a direct replacement.
It's a Seasonic focus PSU basically. Excellent unit for $100 USD

Cablemod and I think even moddiy have a kit based on that. Makes a much easier time overall for cable management

[cyan ravine]

My two cents
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WJHXZJ

You could also take one of Bacca's lists and stick this open box trinity 4080 in and get a similar budget result

$931 open box 4080
https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zt-d40810d-10p-o

It's still in stock and arguably a better purchase than a 4080 super for a card with a 4 slot cooler

[cyan ravine]

@naive latch sorry I rechecked my source, it's seasonic-based not RMx based

Slight mistake, just in case you'd already read that

[cyan ravine]

@pearl gulch updated this with a monitor. You can use extra spare monitors you already have or cheap ones off like, fbmp or an old pc for the others

If you wanted to go really jank

Like 1 really good and 3 meh ones for organising

Or you could do like, g272qpf and do like, 3 or 4 of them

But for production I suggest OLED for it's bonkers colour accuracy (great for games too)

[pearl gulch]

thanks

[manic cloak]

UM

UM

https://tenor.com/view/jackpot-aj-paul-777-jack-rabbit-gif-27438555

It’s real suspicious though

I mean like it doesn’t mention if it’s broken, Facebook page checks out

God

What’s up with these deals

[cyan ravine]

I feel like anyone who's owned a 3080ti would definitely know what it's worth

But that said

Even at 150 if it's broken

Might still be worth looking at if the profile looks ok

Cos you got like $300 to spend there before it becomes not worth fixing

[manic cloak]

Plus if it’s a year old

Possible warranty

Just possible

[strong raft]

Could be 2nd owner though. Card released about 2.5 yrs ago. In-person sale or not at all for stuff like this

[fading iris]

I feel like any sane person would search up price tho to get a value

Like even if u think it's worth 100 bucks u would probably search it up to find out what it goes for used or somewhat damaged or wtv the case is

[reef moss]

Could someone find me a different motherboard for this build? I see a lot of complaints about the current

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B6ZQgB#compatibility_notes

Just worried

Preferably around the same price range

PC build questionnaire
———————
Your Country+Currency: $USD
Your Budget: 1000
What is needed?(include peripherals if needed): 2-3 Monitor Support. Wifi Adapter, Preferably 1-2tb storage
Your desired use: Gaming / Recording / Blender use
Any Aesthetic choices: Nothing in particular. Easy to clean? haha
Your progress on the build(0%-100%): 0%
Size preference(micro, atx, etc.): nothing insanely bulky but I have room for a 2016 omen prebuild and those are built like tanks so anything is better than that
Particular programs you want to run(blender/Witcher 3/etc.): Modded b03, Modded mc, blender, streamlabs

I also prefer Ryzen over Intel but if intel will do what I need better thats fine

[obsidian wigeon]

1k?

ok

[reef moss]

is 1k too cheap for what im looking for?

[hardy remnant]

Hi, i got a quick question regarding NVME's. I had this list made a while back and now finally got to buying the parts, the 2 NVME's are the last parts I am missing, but the Teamgroup one is hard to come by and just as expensive as the PCle 4.0 one. Is anything stopping me from just buying the Western Digital one twice?
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/p3npmD

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G32HQP

Here's my two cents

1k is a decent budget

I can't really get it down below 1k, it's $60 over

It's possible but I'll have to step down to AM4

[obsidian wigeon]

sn770 is a decent choice, but there's definitely cheaper options

[hardy remnant]

if you got any recs by all means go ahead

I wouldn't mind shaving a few euros

[obsidian wigeon]

hrm

looking atm

[reef moss]

60 over is no big deal

[obsidian wigeon]

it seems the sn770 is cheaper than p41 plus

[obsidian wigeon]

that's good

[hardy remnant]

storage and ram prices kinda skyrocketed a while ago

[obsidian wigeon]

btw is this a gamer pc?

you don't need pcie 4.0 if that's your use case

[hardy remnant]

mostly 3D / adobe suite

[obsidian wigeon]

alright

id probably grab the sn770

[hardy remnant]

alright I'll grab that twice then, there is almost no price difference anyway atm

tyy

[mossy venture]

If you'd do a mail in rebate, this case is solid too
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n3wmP6/magniumgear-neo-air-2023-atx-mid-tower-case-mg-ne520a_dbw02

And if you want cheaper this is fine too
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/b4hv6h/xfx-speedster-qick-319-core-radeon-rx-6750-xt-12-gb-video-card-rx-675xyjfde

[reef moss]

👀

I switched the Mobo to a MSI PRO B650M-A

[obsidian wigeon]

no need

b650 is more money for not much substance tbh

[hasty cove]

Anyone able to help me, bluetooth decided it doesnt wanna work anymore and im not smart enough to figure it out

[stable cove]

So one guy on YouTube was building his pc and said the power supply fan actually was supposed to be facing downward due to the little dust filter on the very bottom of the pc case? Is that true? I’m not sure if it is. All that’s gonna do is blow air towards the floor

[obsidian wigeon]

psu orientation depends heavily on the case

and no, most psus pull in air from where the fan is located

and it exhausts out the back

[lyric thistle]

Remember that fans are rotating scoops

Look at the fan blade and imagine the air being scooped

[forest lava]

Bugs bricked my PC and idk if there's any way to save it

[mossy venture]

What happened

[stable cove]

I probably should just put the fan upwards then

[vivid copper]

PSU fan is intake....so you want cool air entering your PSU and 90% of cases are designed to have your PSU intake air from the bottom or side of the case

[cyan ravine]

If the case has it, it can be better to have the fan down as it takes in cooler air

[stable cove]

Alright

[cyan ravine]

Or outward (some cases don't have a psu chamber on the bottom)

[stable cove]

So the guy on YouTube was correct

[forest lava]

I don't know what specifically happened, but all I know is that I woke up to the smell of burnt electronics and went to the pc, and nothing works. I checked out the PC as much as I could (I lost the damn screwdriver but I could open the back, front, and storage drawer), nothing seemed burned, so I'm assuming it's the psu

[cyan ravine]

I mean, you can have it inward, just as long as it's not totally blocked

Any semi-competent psu should be fine in either orientation

[mossy venture]

What psu do you have, and were there any electrical surges or blackouts over night?

[cyan ravine]

Just outward is typically better

[mossy venture]

Do you have the pc plugged into the wall, or a surge protector, or some type of power strip?

[forest lava]

It's an EVGA 80+ gold 650w psu, idk the specific model name

And no blackouts

the PC was plugged right into the wall

[stable cove]

So when we first turn the pc on don’t we have to spam the delete button on our keyboard for the motherboard screen to pop up on our monitor?

That’s what most YouTubers did and I feel if I don’t nothings gonna pop up

[cyan ravine]

Well you will want to

At least once windows is on there

Until that point it will either just wait for you to press it or just take you into bios anyway

[mossy venture]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/how-to-test-a-psu-power-supply-unit/

[cyan ravine]

When you've set up bios then you won't need to do it anymore

[forest lava]

I happen to have none of those three items

[forest lava]

I can't find the PSU jumper either

[mossy venture]

A staple maybe?

[golden viper]

Ok so I've been trying to diagnose this weird problem for a bit now. My son's computer when turned on power cycles a few times then sometimes let's you get into windows, which is fine for a bit but sometimes it will just randomly power cycle again but sometimes it enters a "how you can try to repair your pc" screen. That screen will say 2 options "restart" and "advanced options". I've tried running virus/malwear scan, removing the ram sticks and re seating them, starying it up with 1 ram stick (switched between the 2), re formatting both drives but keeping windows files, reformatting both drives clean and reinstalling windows from a clean slate. Most recently after the full wipe and windows re install it was staying on for hours while re downloading games back to his pc but after turning it off for the night and coming back to check it and start the downloading again it did the whole power cycle and to the "repair" screen again... I'm lost any help would be great. Build is
Asus prime Z-590p
I5 10400f
16gb of patriot 3200mhz ram
Operating system is on a 500gb m.2 only thing on that module
All other stuff is on a 2TB ssd
Air cooled cpu
Msi 2060 super
Hope I didn't leave out any important details. Amd thanks in advance.

[thorn coyote]

We got paper clips, doing the test now

What is the AC connector?

[forest lava]

Evil is the person who invented the 24 pin connector

We tested it, PSU doesn't work

I think that's a good thing? Pretty sure if it did work then that meant something worse was broken

[crimson zinc]

Time for a new PSU

[golden viper]

CMD prompt says both drives are "ok" and error checking found nothing. Ran a 3rd party malware and virus scanner and still nothing.

[mossy venture]

Yeah id replace psu and see if the pc boots

Typically a good psu kills itself before it can kill anything else in the system, but its not 100%

[fleet tendon]

Hey can anyone help me with my friend's pc?

It's been restarting really often, cant even get into windows most times

[stable cove]

So do we plug our hdmi cable into our motherboard or gpu before we do this? That’s what connects our computer to the monitor and shows up the screen

Both have hdmi plugs so just wanna be certain

[lone flame]

always plug into the gpu

[stable cove]

Fantastic news my pc turned on and my bios appeared so what should I do next? Turn my pc back off and install windows on another device?

[stable cove]

I wanna install windows but is there anything I should do before I do that? Right now I’m just sitting my the motherboard bios screen

[viral horizon]

my friend bought a prebuilt pc from walmart and added a custom gpu and says its crashing alot now. is it cuz of the psu or?

[mossy venture]

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[mossy venture]

Have him do that

[stable cove]

So should I update my motherboard bios before I try to install windows?

[mossy venture]

If the pc boots without updating bios then you don't need to

If it doesn't boot without updating bios you have to update bios first because you can't install windows without getting to bios.

[stable cove]

I mean I was just sitting right next to a bios screen so does that mean it boots up?

[mossy venture]

Yes.

[fading iris]

Would these https://a.co/d/aNf3wAi

Work.with this exact power supply in my setup https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CZWk7R

[stable cove]

Ok so maybe I can just install windows and possibly get off this screen

[mossy venture]

I'd grab this psu instead btw
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NBYRsY/corsair-cx-2023-750-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020279-na

Gf1 is new and different platform than the old gf1, so we don't know if it's good or not

This'd also be fine
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Kh3NnQ/thermaltake-toughpower-gf-a3-tt-premium-edition-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0650fnfagu-l

I believe those cable extensions should fit

[fading iris]

I know its a risk. Me and Felix talked about it but I think I'm gonna take the risk since a lot of parts will switch on atleast 5 months no.exxageration

As long as it's able to withstand 5 months without destroying everything it should be gone by then. Same with CPU cooler and

[mossy venture]

Why you changing it in 5 months?

[vivid copper]

Looks like TPM and secure boot are enabled by default, so XMP you ram, reboot and install windows

[fading iris]

The cooler?

[mossy venture]

The psu

[little osprey]

Bro why did I get notified about this chat

[mossy venture]

Your mom

[fading iris]

Because I heard it possibly may not be as good as older models. So that's main reason but I wanna switch to a white 850w even tho color won't rlly matter

My budget is strict as of now but after a month my budget will. Be able to spend decent amount on some parts

[mossy venture]

Why not just get the lil bit better psu for now? Did you alr order it?

[fading iris]

Jus need PC by end of month or early next month then need another month to buy tons of games n PC accessors like GPU holder n etc n then after that rest would go to switching parts

Yes lol

[mossy venture]

Ah alr

[fading iris]

I could technically still return it I think I have like 17 days left or smth

I jus don't wanna go thru hassle idk

Having to return it then wait for it to get finalized then waiting a day to two to get money back into account

Dad controls finances for most part so I'm just tryna get everything out of the way. If I waited it would do a slight setback despite it being something so little

[stable cove]

So I enable XMP on my ram, reboot, and install windows?

[fading iris]

I would of gone with the Asia horse or wtv it's called extensions but this one was 5 bucks cheaper n has white tips it wtv

[mossy venture]

Jaxx check dms rq

[fading iris]

I know y'all can't suggest a site that bypasses it but did any of u get ur windows 11 for under 70?

[mossy venture]

I just have never paid for it

Since I've used the same Microsoft account from my first laptop for every single machine I've had since then

[vivid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-saturday-night-live-yep-yup-yes-gif-2871158352032044666

[fading iris]

So if u have a Microsoft account it will naturally update?

[mossy venture]

Gotta download windows to a USB, download windows on the pc, and then sign in

[fading iris]

But to do that I gotta go on a different computer n buy windows there ?

[stable cove]

very well time for me to get off this bios screen

[stable cove]

well I'll do what bigmeezy said and hope all goes well and I can get off that bios screen

Actually glad I bought a thermal paste spreader that way i wouldn’t make a mess on the motherboard when I put my cooler on

[fading iris]

Would these https://a.co/d/aNf3wAi

Work.with this exact power supply in my setup https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CZWk7R

True bacca said they think they will or they most likely will but just wanna confirm

[pseudo pollen]

yeah

[stable cove]

Very sorry I’ve asked a ton of questions. It’s just the very first time I built my own pc so I’m trying to do everything as safe and carefully as possible to not drive anything unstable or screw something up

[stable cove]

Ok so got a problem. I’m installing windows but it’s not showing my WiFi or any WiFi anywhere all it’s showing is this

My network should’ve showed up right there

[fading iris]

Idk what I'm talking about but have u tried re connecting Ethernet and checking that nothing is wrong with tip of both sides

Oh if neither of those work n u don't get a response from someone who knows what they r talking about maybe just take a step back. Disconnect Ethernet cable. N search up how to install or connect Ethernet cable n then start from that step 1

Maybe fixing it isn't the issue but jus properly doing it from start is idk thi

[obsidian wigeon]

that doesn't work anymore btw

[strong raft]

wtf is MS doing then.

[stable cove]

Do we need an Ethernet cable to connect to the internet with a gaming PC? We shouldn’t need that at all

[potent portal]

Gotta download and extract your net drivers to the installer USB so you can tell it to load them. They need to be installed at the same time you're picking the drive to install to.

Windows has Wi-Fi drivers but it can't recognize all the chipsets. New ones it especially has issues with the default drivers.

[stable cove]

So I gotta turn my pc off and download something else on my drive?

We shouldn’t need an Ethernet cable at all on this and my WiFi should’ve showed up there

[waxen salmon]

Is amd privacy view worth it

[obsidian wigeon]

privacy view sounds like a gimmick

[lyric thistle]

No

Don't bother

[cyan ravine]

No it's not a gimmick

[potent portal]

Is privacy in public spaces a big issue for you? All it does is blur areas far from your mouse cursor

[cyan ravine]

It kinda works

[vivid copper]

being a$$hats....ran into this problem with the last build i did for my ex's daughter...Wifi drivers was not installed initially and no option for a local account, it required me to log into a MS account....didn't feel like doing and going through all the work-arounds so i just ethernet'd it.....

[cyan ravine]

And darken the screen when you look away

[potent portal]

If you have a high res camera yeah

It can eye track too

[cyan ravine]

Yes

For people that do sensitive (or are sensitive) working in public it's quite a handy tool

[strong raft]

The oobe thing is totally dead? Those bastages -- luckily I've simply been used to ethernet since before wifi was actually decent, otherwise I'd personally care more.

[cyan ravine]

Windows dynamic lock is helpful too in an office space

[waxen salmon]

Should I download these MSI MSI already downloaded chipset for motherboard is this for graphics card

[cyan ravine]

@stable cove read chillin's message here

[potent portal]

Yes, MSI gets old versions compared to direct from AMD

[vivid copper]

so unfortunately your boards wifi drivers aren't being automatically installed or recognized by w11 (probably because it's a newer non intel wifi card) so you're going to have to ethernet it to get it setup, while there are other ways since you are new this is going to be the quickest and easiest solution if possible. Once you get it setup you'll have to manually install your boards wi-fi drivers.

[strong raft]

I just read this also, but idk

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[fading iris]

What PC cable extension should I look for for the gf1 2024 psu

Whenever I look at cable extension there r diff PC. Some r 4 PC others r 6pc idk which to get.

[obsidian wigeon]

cablemod

[fading iris]

Yes that's it

Mb*

[obsidian wigeon]

asiahorse is ok too but get cables with as low AWG as possible

[fading iris]

What is awf

[obsidian wigeon]

higher means thinner and less capacity

[potent portal]

American wire gauge

Higher gauge, thicker cable

[obsidian wigeon]

oh

i flipped it around lmao

my bad

[potent portal]

But it's weird because higher gauge is actually smaller number

[fading iris]

Is 16 awg good enough?

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

[fading iris]

Or too high

[cyan ravine]

The ones you linked in the other chat, just stick them onto the ends of the cables that came with it

Asiahorse 16awg is good

[fading iris]

So that's how it works

Also I linked wrong one

[potent portal]

16 is fine for anything less than a 4090

[cyan ravine]

Well it's a good one

[fading iris]

Sirlyr Pearl White PSU Extension Cable Kit • Custom Sleeved Power Supply Cable Mod for PC Build • 16AWG 24Pin ATX /8 (4+4) Pin EPS CPU /8 (6+2) Pin PCI-E GPU PSU Cables • 4PCS with Cable Comes 11.8In https://a.co/d/dnkfnDv

I know

[cyan ravine]

18 is fine on a 4090

[fading iris]

I would rather save the 6 bucks if possible

[cyan ravine]

I daily 18

Lol

[potent portal]

Some cheaper cables will claim to be 16 awg but they're actually 20 with a thick jacket pretending to be 16

[fading iris]

Cat fishing is insane

[cyan ravine]

Terrible problem in this market

[fading iris]

Is the extension cable kit good?

Also our or curiosity with these do u gotta click em or connect em on or wtv the fck

[cyan ravine]

The asiahorse ones are

Or ez-diyfab

[fading iris]

I thought the way it worked were they were completely diff cables that I jus didn't need to worry about black ones n jus connected white ones instead

Sirlyr Pearl White PSU Extension Cable Kit • Custom Sleeved Power Supply Cable Mod for PC Build • 16AWG 24Pin ATX /8 (4+4) Pin EPS CPU /8 (6+2) Pin PCI-E GPU PSU Cables • 4PCS with Cable Comes 11.8In https://a.co/d/dnkfnDv

These ones

[cyan ravine]

I have no idea about sirlyr

[potent portal]

That would be custom cables. They exist but they're more expensive than extensions.

[fading iris]

So how does sleeved work again

So I actually have to clip it over like right over?

[potent portal]

Side note: Amazon reviews should be ignored entirely because there's so many ways to scam through them.

[fading iris]

N in ur opinion n experience does it look nc

Cause with the way it's described wouldn't it show some black from some angles

[potent portal]

The black part of the cables would be behind the motherboard tray

[fading iris]

The end tip?

Idk this is all too confusing I'ma jus buy 18 dollar one n trust that it fully covers or watch reviews online

[stable cove]

Alright looks like I’ll have to buy an Ethernet cable to plug my computer into and see if I can get my motherboards WiFi drivers on it after I get windows installed it. I think I have no choice

It sucks that my pc can’t just find my WiFi without having to download this stuff. Most devices find WiFi no problem at all

[cyan ravine]

@stable cove did you read any of our messages

[obsidian wigeon]

Even my laptop doesn't find wifi when I reinstalled windows

[cyan ravine]

3 people told you to use the OOBE bypass to skip the wifi part

[stable cove]

I tried the without WiFi method and it didn’t work because when I pressed enter the pc didn’t restart

[obsidian wigeon]

The bypass doesn't involve restarting

[cyan ravine]

Yes it does

Uh ok

Let me see what the new method is

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

okie

my bad once more

[stable cove]

If there’s a new method it’ll help me end this faster because I won’t have to buy an Ethernet cable and wait for it to come to my house.

[cyan ravine]

So just checking, this didn't work @stable cove yes?

Try it twice or three times to be sure

[stable cove]

All in caps?

[obsidian wigeon]

mhm

[cyan ravine]

Yes

This is from a microsoft rep like, a week ago

[lyric thistle]

Yep

This is what I did

[cyan ravine]

Oh and you built your pc like a week or 2 ago

Perfect

So this should definitely work

[lyric thistle]

Not like my wifi driver would've worked before doingg it lol

Because ujhhh

I didn't have it

Yeah bypass needing network connection so you can finish setting up and get to desktop

Then get your wifi driver on a flash drive and install it

[stable cove]

So Fai gave me a motherboard WiFi driver download so after this hopefully I can extract that from my drive and put it on my pc

[lyric thistle]

I guess you can use your phone, downloading and transferring it over usb

[cyan ravine]

Or a usb stick

Which everyone should have at least one in the house

[stable cove]

Yeah my motherboard WiFi driver is on my usb I just gotta install it onto my gaming computer

Should I click on Mai setup?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[stable cove]

Alright

[lyric thistle]

I had no idea where my flash drives were for like a year so I had to get creative lol

Thankfully it's simple, the phone is the flash drive

[storm arrow]

Why is the 4080 super 1700 on Newegg lol

[potent portal]

Third party sellers

AKA scalpers

[cyan ravine]

Medieval scalpers seem pretty terrible to me

[storm arrow]

That's crazy might as well get the 4090

[potent portal]

You can report those sellers to [e-mail]
At least you could during the shortage, don't know if it's still active

[potent portal]

Sure, if those weren't being scalped too for $2200

[storm arrow]

Right how long before you think ide get my hands on one at launch price

[cyan ravine]

Just get the zotac open box 4080 for $931.49

Call it a day

https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zt-d40810d-10p-o

Direct from manufacturer

[potent portal]

Considering that the 4080 super is within margin of error of the regular one that is a good option

[storm arrow]

Sounds good to me

[cyan ravine]

It's a better buy than the 4080S at msrp

And yet people downvoted it

Weirdest thing imo

4 slot cooler you never even hear the fans

[potent portal]

Probably scared by "open box" but it's sold directly from zotac

[cyan ravine]

Their loss

Lol

Better vrm too

4080S has a worse pcb

[potent portal]

It's most likely just one that was returned for whatever reason, and they tested it

[cyan ravine]

Seems to be a lot more than just 1

I've recommended that link to a lot of people lol

[potent portal]

(probably returned because they realized the 7900 XTX was better)

[storm arrow]

Ouch

[cyan ravine]

Kinda is yeah

Depends what you're doing

Raw perf it def is

Like 10%

[storm arrow]

Just gaming

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[potent portal]

XTX all the way for just gaming unless you're literally only playing cyberpunk

[cyan ravine]

I mean tbf considering we'd be assuming they bought it for like, 1150

He's very right in that xtx is better

[storm arrow]

Any specific brand?

[cyan ravine]

Almost all XTX are the same electrically

It's really just a cooler or vbios choice

AMD is a lot more strict about quality of the card

Sapphire pulse is always my go to now

Great QoL features and often one of the cheapest

Xfx merc is a second favourite for me

They're the noisiest but best vbios and cheapest, also tends to have very good bins

[stable cove]

don't we need to activate windows to get the most out of our graphics card?

[potent portal]

No, the two have nothing to do with each other

[stable cove]

It’s just I tried to run VR and it said my graphics card didn’t meet the minimum requirements so I’m not sure if that’s because the gpu is underpowered or something else and I wanna see if I can fix it

Because I have a 4080 like that should be enough to do plenty

Hope my gpu isn’t damaged. It shouldnt be

Maybe I should switch and do three pcie cables instead

[plucky timber]

That is a software issue

Nothing to do with power

!ddu

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[plucky timber]

Try this

[stable cove]

Yeah I just really wanna try and fix that

[stable cove]

At least there’s people here who know what to do in certain situations

[obsidian wigeon]

You need to install gpu drivers

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/218113/en-us/

download from here

and install

[vagrant thistle]

I’m sorry I know it’s overpriced I just couldn’t hold back man the hard on was too big

😣

[stable cove]

What about what the other guy said to do? I do that too?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

that's not important

at least not for your problem

[stable cove]

Hopefully I'll stop running into these problems soon. I didn't see this stuff coming at all. kind of a pain

[obsidian wigeon]

we all start somewhere

[stable cove]

And I doubt this is the manuals of our parts so that's frustrating

[obsidian wigeon]

installing drivers is kinda a standard practice you learn to know as you build a pc

or do something like reinstalling windows on a laptop

[stable cove]

Well I'll just swing buy if I run into another problem. Thanks for guiding me through this

[stable cove]

I’ve had my built computer on all night staring at a lot of stuff installing under windows update in the settings

[stable cove]

Just got on my hp reverb g2 with my built pc and everything works fantastic. the home menu loads almost immediately and I can have several things open at once without my pc lagging at all

My dell computer could not do all that

[obsidian wigeon]

Grats

[stable cove]

So all the drivers I have installed already took up a terabyte on storage so I might need to buy a massive upgrade. What option would provide me a lot more pc storage? I don’t want that to get overcrowded?

[pseudo pollen]

They shouldn't take up a terabyte

Maybe 50gb max

[obsidian wigeon]

^

What did you download lol

Drivers are like at most 500 or so megabytes

[stable cove]

I got no idea I think my pc downloaded a lot of stuff and installed several updates.

I’m not really sure what happened but nonetheless at least vr runs like a blast

[cyan ravine]

Ain't no way your drivers are a terabyte

[stable cove]

Then maybe something else is taking space up

[cyan ravine]

You didn't like, just click the nvidia driver download 1333 times or something

Drivers should be a couple hundred megabytes

Something else is taking up space or you've stuffed your downloads file up 3000 times over lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

resetting my laptop wasted so many hours

[lyric thistle]

here's another thing to download so you can look at all the things that you downloaded

it's called wiztree

[obsidian wigeon]

i was too lazy to find a usb drive

[stable cove]

https://diskanalyzer.com/ that it?

[lyric thistle]

yep

[stable cove]

Yeah I'll need to download that later and see whats going on

I may just look for a storage upgrade anyway. I could be downloading a lot of vr games on steam

[cyan ravine]

Just a cheap m.2 that's pcie gen 3 or 4

You don't need anything crazy for games

The experience of a game will be almost identical on just about any ssd out there of reasonable quality

[lyric thistle]

forza motorsport 7 seems to be pretty bad on ssds and even worse on nvme drives

[cyan ravine]

I don't recall such issues

I was playing it just lately too

380fps 4k on a 4090 hits different lmao

The game like, looks actually kinda great with high refresh and maxed

[obsidian wigeon]

does it have 60 lock on mp?

[cyan ravine]

Oh wait I think I know what maniac is talking about

The car menu

All the cars in that game are fully rendered in the menu

[obsidian wigeon]

damn

[cyan ravine]

And it leads to significant load time differences

[obsidian wigeon]

that hits the ssd hard

[cyan ravine]

Yes it was a problem actually

Since all previous games used preview images

Suddenly the xbox would never load the car in time when picking it in multiplayer

So you had no idea which was the right one if you had two

That wasn't even the worst problem though

But I'll grant that one, it was a thing

[lyric thistle]

loading the cars and apparently leaving the track/loading another

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Forza Motorsport 8 has worse iterations of it

[lyric thistle]

it doesn't hit the ssd, the drive just waits on the game

[cyan ravine]

I'd have no idea what it does, just know from experience what I see

It's jank for sure

[lyric thistle]

for whatever reason the game's consistency is killed if it's not on a hard drive

ssd too fast or I guess

[stable cove]

So I’m pretty sure I got my fans in the right spots. Should I make adjustments on the rotations or leave everything the way it is? I honestly don’t know if I should be concerned about temperatures anymore or not. Especially because I bought a dual air cooler and it’s probably just gonna get hot anyway. Not to mention Felix said a pc can be running 95 degrees c 24/7 and be perfectly fine. Maybe I’ve really been overthinking that stuff

[lyric thistle]

just play your games and forget about it for a while

[obsidian wigeon]

Fan curve can be adjusted

But if you like what the bios has set for you already, no need to mess with it

[cyan ravine]

I really think you need to calm down

You've gotten way further than most without issues

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[cyan ravine]

At this point you've gotten past even what some pre-builts can't achieve

[obsidian wigeon]

Some pre-builts actually come with corrupted os

msi

[cyan ravine]

Or viruses and malware

Or McAfee

Or a broken mobo slot

No thermal paste

Faulty ram

No xmp

Yada yada

The list goes on and on

Since most people that make pre-builts are lackey's who do 9 to 5 on that stuff themselves and make human mistakes

[stable cove]

You’re probably right I did accomplish a bunch and got vr working

[jagged ember]

Leave it haha you'll be fine with stock settings

Mess with fan curves later if you want, just enjoy PC for now

[stable cove]

Yeah you’re probably right I should enjoy vr

[jagged ember]

I just did it because I didn't like hearing the CPU fan at lower temps

[lyric thistle]

I just let the bios do its thing

[jagged ember]

Also fair

It won't overheat with stock fan curves

If you're running on stock settings

i.e. you're not over clocking your cpu or GPU

[cyan ravine]

I always do fan curves

I hate when a pc ramps up and down constantly

[jagged ember]

Yeah, it's just down to acoustics mostly

If the fan noises annoy you to no end while you're using your pc then you should definitely do them

[cyan ravine]

Though tbh

My x3d system

I could leave the fans like always under 30% without issue

There's just way too much cooling in that pc now

It took all I have for an i9 in it, now x3d just lives in the arctic circle

[jagged ember]

Bros bing chilling in there fr

[cyan ravine]

If I still had the 3090 in there I could probably run it with the fans at 20%

[jagged ember]

Just have no fans

Passive cooling

[cyan ravine]

Real

[lyric thistle]

put it on the back of your bike and leave the side panel off

ride as fast as you can

[cyan ravine]

That wouldn't cool it down

I'd be sweating buckets right in front of it

[lyric thistle]

get a front rack

fresh air

[cyan ravine]

What do you take me for

A bike maniac

[lyric thistle]

yes

you are a bicycle

[cyan ravine]

I'm in a pc discord and I'm not an AMD simp

I don't have amd bicycle

[lyric thistle]

you have sprocket and chain and handlebar

[cyan ravine]

I have a many of these things

Dammit

He saw through me

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/simon-cowell-laser-eyes-gif-10617238

[flint sapphire]

Quick someone build me a 2k pc sfx

[cyan ravine]

Here

Lol

2K sfx prolly like

7800x3d

Small tower cooler

A620i lightning wifi

32gb vulcan 5600 cl32

P41 plus 2tb

Cheapest smallest xtx like sapphire pulse, montech century mini 750w, and some small sff case

[fading iris]

Wasn't able to link my shopping car but here is my list on new egg. I saw my CPU went from 220 to 209. I was curious if there r certain parts that I should maybe buy early because their price may go up instead of down

[cyan ravine]

Your address is in that pic

[fading iris]

Thank you

IDC enough but thx may delete n resend tho

Only name n area code

[cyan ravine]

Up to you

Only thing I change from what I saw there was the ram

You can get basically identical for $10 less

Silicon power, or the same teamgroup deltas but 5600 cl32

[fading iris]

I know

[cyan ravine]

Silicon power should be 6000 cl30 tho

[fading iris]

I saw n I actually had it on my list but I realized my list allows me to spend the extra bit

[cyan ravine]

So like

It's the same but cheaper

[fading iris]

I like the lightup😎

[cyan ravine]

Oh alr

I mean 10$

Just my two cents (or 500 of them)

[fading iris]

I did some math with giving mighself less doubt n I should have 1100 to spend by end of month

N this list is 1062 which is also why I was wondering if I should buy any parts early

[cyan ravine]

Did you see my comment on the psu

[fading iris]

No lemme check

[cyan ravine]

I couldn't confirm anything from anyone

Just that the cables are 16awg

[fading iris]

Oh yeh I saw that mb

Ima take the risk honestly

[cyan ravine]

Alright

[fading iris]

As long as it doesn't fry everything or mess up everything in 5 months Iy will be gone by then

In less then 6 to 8 months the monitor, power supply, and maybe storage will be changed

[cyan ravine]

By then there will be reviews of it

So you'd know if it's good or bad

[fading iris]

That's what I was thinking

[fading iris]

Out or curiosity does anybody wanna post their wallpaper? Don't need inspo jus curious as to what y'all's style is

If this is wrong channel to do such someone tag a diff one jus thought would be stupid to do in general

[dusky hearth]

i use wallpaper engine

worth the cost imo

[pseudo pollen]

I mean

It's alright, some wallpapers are cool on there, I got the entirety of shrek downloaded from there

[crimson zinc]

@cyan ravine would I be able to pull off using this cooler instead of the one in the second pic

Keeping temps cool as possible is the ideal situation

[earnest olive]

why would you downgrade the cooler if "keeping temps cool as possible is the ideal situation" lmao

how does that make any amount of sense

sure the se-214-xt will work on a 7800x3d but is it really that important to save that $15 on a build high end enough to call for a 7800x3d?

keeping temps cool as possible means liquid helium

[crimson zinc]

Wasn’t sure if it would be a downgrade

I’m sorry

[earnest olive]

just look at them

there is a 2x size difference there

se-214-xt is a great budget cooler but it's still a budget cooler

[potent portal]

I do space themes like this, there's a lot of free ones on the microsoft store

[crimson zinc]

What cooler would be best for that?

[earnest olive]

uhhh

[crimson zinc]

(Not helium cuz that’s a lot of money)

[earnest olive]

liquid helium is definitely not meant for dailying

just get the pa120 it does the job for cheap enough

you're not gonna gain any performance from going lower than 70c

[crimson zinc]

But just high end liquid cooling

[earnest olive]

and it's quieter than liquid coolers on a 7800x3d

[crimson zinc]

Price doesn’t really matter on this list

[potent portal]

High end custom loops typically use distilled water with anti-growth additives

[earnest olive]

liquid coolers have a pump as a noise floor

pa120 stays quieter than a pump on a 7800x3d

speaking from personal experience

never once heard any noise from the pa120

I hear my galahad 360 all the time

[potent portal]

My LFII 420 has a fan rattling now so it's really loud lol

[earnest olive]

oof

[potent portal]

More fans = more noise

[earnest olive]

I've had terrible experiences with the fans that came with the galahad

[potent portal]

The blades skip off the radiator when it's starting or stopping the fan

[earnest olive]

but at least they sent replacements without question multiple times

guess they know their QC sucks lol

I got 5 fan replacements for an aio with 3 fans

within 2 years

[potent portal]

My Torrent had one of the 180mm fans blow the bearing so they sent me one no questions asked too. It just took a while because they were rearranging their warehouse. And the first one they sent broke a blade off in shipping. But the second replacement is great.

[earnest olive]

oof

yeah 2 out of 5 replacements I got were bad on arrival

either clicky/rattling bearings or bad LEDs

they're good fans when they work but they seem to struggle with... working

the ones I have right now have been going for more than a year now so maybe these are the good ones

[crimson zinc]

Sorry for bothering

I’m just cutting down stuff if it’s just needlessly expensive

[earnest olive]

don't worry about it

asking is how you learn that it's not needlessly expensive

better to ask than to make poor decisions without asking

seen people build $2k gaming pcs with an i9 and 3050

[mossy venture]

Well with a 7800x3d, the cooler really does not matter much. It will run hot no matter what, but it won't throttle with a 214xt. It would likely be a few degrees difference between a 214xt and a pa120 se, felix has an am5 cpu (either 7700x or 7800x3d, I forget) in a custom loop and it either almost hits or does hit the 80s

Would have to ask him to double check on the last part, but its one of the two

[earnest olive]

he has a 7950x3d

[mossy venture]

Lemme see the parts list?

Ah

Doesn't he have multiple am5 cpus?

[earnest olive]

I had 7800x3d under pa120 in a 24c ambient room peaking at 70c in prime95 with default fan curve

[mossy venture]

Meanwhile my 13600k was hitting 80c before contact frame in p95 under a 280mm clc

[earnest olive]

meanwhile my 13700k hits 102c in p95 and throttles significantly under a 360mm clc and contact frame

[mossy venture]

Stock?

Tbf I do have a uv on my 13600k

[earnest olive]

yeah at stock too

[mossy venture]

Before it was hitting 100c at stock in cinebench, let alone p95

[earnest olive]

still wants over 400 watts at stock and my cooler is only capable of sustaining 320

[mossy venture]

Since z690 feeding it 315w

Yeah

[earnest olive]

well, "motherboard stock", not intel stock

[mossy venture]

You're the one (and felix) who figured out why my cpu was hitting 100c about a year ago now

[earnest olive]

wouldn't doubt it

wasn't the board giving it like 1.45v for funsies

[mossy venture]

Something like that yeah

Still don't know if the cpu was damaged or not

[earnest olive]

mm crispy chips

[mossy venture]

It was at most at those temps for maybe a total of 5 min

Likely less, and that was between multiple attempts

[earnest olive]

it won't degrade that quickly at 1.45v

not 5 minutes

[mossy venture]

Yeah I didn't think so, but I also don't know much about degradation

I'm a noob when it comes to cpu oc and ram tuning

[earnest olive]

I'm just not interested in aggressive CPU ocs anymore

[mossy venture]

I just don't have any need to do either

13600k 3060 ti at 1440p, not really cpu limited lol

[earnest olive]

I'm just dailying a 100mhz bump at the stock voltage

still interested in daily ram oc though, that's where the real gains are at

might do some experimenting with disabling e-cores when I have free time

[mossy venture]

Yeah im glad my rams at 3600c16 now, better than 3200c16

I could likely do 3600c14 or better but I just really don't feel like it

[earnest olive]

life is better after I settled for 4000c15 lol

my chip did not want to run 4133 stable

I want to play with ddr5 but can't justify an upgrade for a long time

[mossy venture]

I could try 4000c16, it might be stable with my current settings

[mossy venture]

Same

I wanted an excuse to build a second system on am5 but my excuse no longer works

Was gonna have my pc in another room and there's a TV in our bedroom, was gonna do a pc for that TV for story games and such, but I can no longer use that other room

So no reason to have two systems in my bedroom

[little osprey]

Alright PC pros

Someone is offering 150

Thoughts

[obsidian wigeon]

150 is too much

you're lucky the guy is offering you that much

[cyan ravine]

He's actually not lying

150 is about the new price

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[cyan ravine]

$158
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/g94BD3/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-37-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000065box

If you go with 5600 (same chip just they scratched off the X) it's way cheaper than that

[mossy venture]

Yeah crazy price

[cyan ravine]

Most used 5600/X's go for around like, 100-110

Lol

[mossy venture]

200 is 7600 money

[cyan ravine]

@little osprey you nearly scammed a guy

[little osprey]

Man

Forget everything

Wait

AMDs can't fit inside Intel motherboards right?

[mossy venture]

No

[little osprey]

Okay

Someone is willing to trade it for a 7600

Thoughts

@mossy venture

[cyan ravine]

Wtf

That's a steal

Bruh where do you live so I can tap into this oil deposit

[obsidian wigeon]

lucky

[mossy venture]

huh

[cyan ravine]

Bro's literally trading and selling over market price for used

Most desirable 5600x in the world

[obsidian wigeon]

is 7600 perhaps an i5

[cyan ravine]

Haha I forgot that exists

It could be

[obsidian wigeon]

it goes both ways

[mossy venture]

Maybe it's even better, maybe it's an rx 7600

Also I'd be weary of it being a broken 7600

[obsidian wigeon]

7600xt makes me sadge

why exist

[mossy venture]

It makes everyone sad

[obsidian wigeon]

other than to bait people who doesn't know much

"but 16 gigs"

[cyan ravine]

@little osprey find out which 7600 it is

[little osprey]

R5

Bro yet another one saying they going to Amazon

Like bruh couldn't thought of that before coming to me

[cyan ravine]

Should've just sealed the deal I guess lol

[little osprey]

I did

Above that I said "Deal"

And then dude said that on the ss

Bro says he'll rather get a 3700x instead for cheap

With a 4060 💀

[little osprey]

@mossy venture how do I tell him in the nicest way possible

[mossy venture]

"the 7600 beats the 5800x and 5600x by around 20%. The 5600x and 5800x perform almost identically for gaming, as single core performance is what matters for gaming. The 5800x also runs a lot hotter and requires a much better cooler. "

[little osprey]

He says he's "getting a twin AIO cooler from a guy tomorrow" 💀

100% tryna waste my time

Probably a potential scammer if I wasn't so clever on these PC topics

[potent portal]

Half of that convo makes no sense at all

So yeah could be a scammer

[little osprey]

Definitely

[obsidian wigeon]

scammer for sure

[fading iris]

Is the a620m pro rs wifi motherboard compatible with dsr5 ram?

[strong raft]

ddr5, and yes because it's AM5 socket.

[fading iris]

Ok thx

[late fjord]

After 2 years with my 5800x, I wish I had just gotten the 5600/x or a 5700x. It's been nothing but a pain managing temps.

[analog hearth]

nah I personally would use the extra two cores

especially given modern GPUs being bottlenecked even by six-core CPUs now

[late fjord]

I just need to learn how to undervolt and all that.

I'll be getting a 7800x3d soon ish though

[analog hearth]

I'm currently using a 13700K, which I probably won't have to upgrade for a bit and I can just increase RAM and upgrade my GPU for a while

[obsidian wigeon]

you won't need undervolt on 7800x3d

88w is all it needs to go nyoom

[analog hearth]

Surprisingly easy. I was able to just Google it and learn what's a safe voltage and how to test for whether your voltage is safe

[late fjord]

My 5800x is going to go into my other build with a 3060ti. It's more compact so I'll def need to do something to reduce temps

[obsidian wigeon]

fair enough

[late fjord]

It's a Sama IM01 case.

[analog hearth]

dang bruh I didn't know the 5800X had a TDP of 105W

I doubt you'll have issues cooling that CPU with that case. it looks like there will be enough space inside

you can put a 240mm radiator up top. shouldn't be bad for cooling at all

[late fjord]

Its a nice case. Was using it for capture and stream but recently been using it as a back up or to bring to friends houses.

[analog hearth]

I have a case that's about that same form factor. only I have a triple-fan GPU inside and I should probably find a way to prevent GPU sag when moving it around 💀

[late fjord]

It's a bit more cleaned up now. But it's super compact but still space for a decent sized card

[analog hearth]

Maybe I'm crazy but I would make that top fan on the right an intake so the CPU cooler can get some air

[late fjord]

I could give that a try. Makes sense

[analog hearth]

Idk if the top is filtered so there may be more dust coming into the PC, but it would keep that 5800X alive

[late fjord]

It's not. But Im sure i probably could order a magnetic filter.

[analog hearth]

I wonder if they make fan filters that are 140x140mm and 120x120mm

that would make sense imo

[late fjord]

Before this I had that asrock deskmeet x300. But that was a nightmare. Airflow was horrible. Only way the case worked is if you were only running a igpu

[analog hearth]

bruh why can't we have motherboards like this

that's an adorable PC though

bruh I want an mITX motherboards that has four slots for memory

[cyan ravine]

The 5800x is definitely not a single tower cooler cpu

Maybe if you power limit it to hell

[late fjord]

I might be able to clip on another fan if I get the brackets. Not sure how much that would help lol.

[late fjord]

The b660 version is better. But the case is just very limiting.

[mossy venture]

Why?

Do you use 128gb+?

[analog hearth]

It would just be nice

[mossy venture]

2 dimm boards are also better for ram tuning, especially on ddr5

[potent portal]

Considering even my 420mm AIO struggles with it on all core loads, this is very much true. 85-90C playing some games. Granted, it's overclocked, but undervolted.

[analog hearth]

For me in particular, I usually use mITX motherboards with spare parts (for secondary builds). And typically I'll just add in whichever parts I have, including memory

[fading iris]

Is a HVA panel better or worse then a IPS panel. And also what would be pros n cons. Like is IPS better with fps but HVA has better or worse color resolution or wtv. Just curious

[potent portal]

IPS is usually the choice for gamers because it has better motion clarity, color accuracy, and response times. VA panels have better contrast, that's about it.

[fading iris]

I’m stupid I knew ips was better then Va but I thought HVa was a whole different type of monitor panel

Thx tho

[potent portal]

You're not stupid, they do that intentionally to confuse you

The same reason that Acer has their model names

[weak flint]

or in other words, your stupid to believe it

[cyan ravine]

Or how cars have 30 model names for the same car

Oh no I have the turbo X not the LS E

Marketing is social engineering, and that's why reviews are always worth looking at

[stable cove]

So I watched a video and I need to downgrade to windows 10 because there’s software I can’t use in the latest windows 11 update but the video I saw a guy do this said it could release all your data. So what should I do before I go through this procedure to avoid losing all my drivers I installed for WiFi and my graphics card?

[stoic island]

If it's only the latest update, you can just roll back your w11 update to an earlier w11 version, that would probably be easier?

[fading iris]

Is the difference between ips and VA super noticeable at 24 inch monitors

I know ip is better for sure. But I'm assuming it would be way noticeable on a 27 or even 32 inch monitor

[potent portal]

Size doesn't matter, IPS generally is clearer during fast motion like snap shotting or running in games

The thing that matters as size increases is the resolution. 27" is largely accepted as the point where you should get 1440p, with 4k possibly starting to make sense at 32" or larger. This is due to pixel density. If you have a large, low resolution monitor you can easily pick out individual pixels from a normal sitting distance.

[fading iris]

I will infact be going with the ips

Finally ordered GPU aswell

[little osprey]

What would be the best GPU for $200-400?

I am looking for a 4060 ti, is that any good?

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ny3gXL/gigabyte-m34wq-340-3440-x-1440-144-hz-monitor-m34wq-sa

Much very wow

[crimson zinc]

Would you be okay with used?

If you could stretch an extra $100

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256410449759

[lone flame]

6000 series used or new if you can find them still

6800 is solid https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Speedster-SWFT319-Graphics-RX-68XLAQFD9/dp/B09KW68M2G?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

6700 XT and 6750 XT are also really good if you can find them still

[crimson zinc]

^ that too

[lone flame]

A 6750XT on amazon new https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Speedster-QICK319-Graphics-RX-675XYJFDP/dp/B0B34M1YLW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=18LHSYAM7UC71&keywords=6700+XT&qid=1707769577&s=electronics&sprefix=6700+xt%2Celectronics%2C332&sr=1-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.c3015c4a-46bb-44b9-81a4-dc28e6d374b3

nothing from current 7000 series or 40 series is really a standout in that category since all the decent cards start at like 500+

[weary galleon]

yo we have quite similar builds

Mines a lot messier lol

[analog hearth]

Y'all aren't gonna believe this

I need more fans though

[fading iris]

Not 409 IPS😭

[analog hearth]

it's a 21:9 monitor huh

[fading iris]

Idk what allat means

Getting a 24 inch 1080 IPS for now. By June or at Max late July I'ma switch to a 27 inch 1440

Hopefully IPS but haven't checked prices for 27 inch ips

[potent portal]

It's barely better than a 3060 ti and on average loses to the 3070

Might as well get a used 3080 for the same price as the 4060 ti

[late fjord]

I debated between that case and the sama

[pseudo pollen]

d30>>

[rough totem]

I remember learning about the difference in pixel density of HD monitors between 24 and 27 inches, but I got greedy and got the 27 inch anyway

[mossy venture]

Did you regret it?

[rough totem]

No, actually. It was probably easier for my mother to see

also, she was already complaining that it was a widescreen monitor instead of square

It was the biggest thing within the budget, is what I was getting at there

[mossy venture]

Then you made the perfect choice

[rough totem]

I'm not giving past me enough credit, I'm sure

[desert plover]

what yall think of my build ?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mh29vj

[mossy venture]

if you havent bought it yet https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MPY9vj

[desert plover]

too late

but thanks lol

I actually went over budget on it

[rain carbon]

I feel like anyone whos ever built a computer has went overbudget

All the higher end things that are "just a wee bit more expensive" are too tempting 🥹

[crimson zinc]

buy em

I’m not a good influence

[flint sapphire]

Typically overspending starts on peripherals

[obsidian wigeon]

a wee bit too expensive for much better performance

such is reality

[flint sapphire]

“This monitor has more hz this mouse is lighter this keeb is more gamer “

[crimson zinc]

I downsized like $400 by just getting super simple peripherals(I use controller a lot so I didn’t need a l33t g4m3r keyboard and mouse)

And a good monitor for my 4090

[flint sapphire]

all ive done is upsize; eventually landed on a $45 keycron keyboard (after 2 other keebs that im embarrassed by) eventually went to a logitech gpro superlight; got some schiit amp and dac for my sen 6xx's... i think im happy now

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wZcC9c

My stuff is simple simple

[crimson zinc]

I think my original list was like $4,600

[flint sapphire]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7mrn6 this is my rig

[potent portal]

Quite similar to mine

[crimson zinc]

Sennheiser

[unique rapids]

Whats the difference between these 2 Ram Values? https://ibb.co/0m9P84Y

[cyan ravine]

One would be system ram, the other video ram

[strong raft]

Behold: Detective Chillin. green "MEM" is Vram. I duplicated pic from John, lol. usage \ process might be what a certain program is using, but idk. In my pic below, my "top" open program is using 2600ish RAM & 1692 Vram. John, your igpu and it's Vram was max'd out.

[cyan ravine]

Ah

I don't use rtss so that explains me

[strong raft]

Bad techie, haha (jk-ish). -- I only run certain OSD readings because it influencs how much is on the AB hardware monitor graph. Plus, hwinfo is course better w/ some things.

[deep raven]

This could sound stupid but are there any 300W-400W PSUs that I can possibly fit In an SFF Dell Optiplex 5040?

[analog hearth]

No

Not inside

SFF? 300-400W? What monster are you forming?

Oh wait

Thought it was one of those micros

[deep raven]

PC Building: 3rd World Country edition

[deep raven]

So can It possibly fit?

or do I have to remove the side panel out of the equation to make this even feasible

[analog hearth]

Idk

[deep raven]

I'll try finding out the hard way

It'll be an ugly sight but If it means saving $200-$300 from buying an actually good and fresh build so be it

[potent portal]

They use a modified 12VO spec and server PSU case parts so no standard power supply will fit

You could rig up a server PSU to fit but it won't work for the stock motherboard, and the case won't fit standard motherboards either.

[fading iris]

Any good 27 inch curved monitors. True bacca n someone else showed me a nice MSI 27 inch that was good but I was wondering if I was to increase my budget if there r any 27 inch curved that aren't super expensive but ofc not cheap with super bad quality

[potent portal]

Most of the cheaper curved monitors use cheap VA panels, and as a result they look pretty bad

The only reason to get a curved 27" monitor imo is for a sim racing rig where they're in surround layout

It's too small for curved to matter

The ones that start to look decent are around $300+

[fading iris]

Ok thx

[fading iris]

How big of a difference would there be in performance with a a620m pro rs wifi and a b650m pro rs wifi

Strictly for gaming pretty much

I realized I have enough money to either bring up the budget of my monitor up by 30 dollars or upgrade my a620m pro rs wifi to a b650 pro rs wifi

Because it's for gaming I want to bring up budget for monitor up since I know that would help for time being but at the same time if the performance difference in the b650 is higher then I would switch motherboard. What's y'all's opinion?

[potent portal]

The only difference between A620 and B650 is CPU overclocking support

[mossy venture]

Side by side you would not see a difference

There's mobos worse than the a620m pro rs wifi that are fine for a 7950x3d

[potent portal]

If you're getting an X3D chip there's effectively no difference because you can't overclock those anyway. The memory you can overclock on any AM5 board. (except some OEM boards like HP)

[mossy venture]

Also I just found out that there's literally no difference between the a620 and b650 the other day aside from ocing

I thought the a620 had a lot less m.2s

[potent portal]

Nope, because in practice most B650 boards aren't anywhere close to the limit of the chipset anyway

[fading iris]

Thank you

I don't know anything about over locking and think my performance will be fine enough to where I don't have to worry about over locking so just gonna stick with a620

[stable cove]

So I’m gonna try to switch from windows 10. How do I ensure my WiFi and graphics card drivers don’t get wiped out and I can recover them?

[potent portal]

If you do an "upgrade" install then it'll figure all that out for you.

You can see if you're eligible for that upgrade with the PC Health Check app.
https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp

It also suggests things you might need to adjust to comply with the requirements, like enabling TPM and secure boot in bios.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/how-to-check-if-your-device-meets-windows-11-system-requirements-after-changing-device-hardware-f3bc0aeb-6884-41a1-ab57-88258df6812b

[fading iris]

Does anyone use or in the past used sleeved power supply cables

[potent portal]

Yes

Both with sleeves from the factory and custom sleeves you heat shrink on

[fading iris]

Idk which these r but what I'm tryna figure out is do I replace the power supply cables with these or do I connect them to the power supply cables as a "extender" In a way b then connect white part to motherboard and other parts

[potent portal]

Asiahorse? That would be an extension

It goes between your PSU cable and the motherboard

[fading iris]

Ngl I jus ordered what I thought would work and just assumed they would help lol

Okay thank you

I don't mind either was just kinda confusing

[stable cove]

Alright I think I know what I need to do now. I'll have to buy an external pc hard drive. Put all my data on it. Switch from windows 11 to 10 and then put everything back on

[dusky hearth]

you dont need an external one

tho sometimes external drives may be cheaper than internal, though usually they use white label drives which may be of lower quality

[fading iris]

I don't think he will be using external after that but idk

I think he just only needs something to quickly and safely transport the data then he will use internal after prob but once again I'm not him just assuming since I have seen him having trouble prior with stuff not working on windows 11

[weary galleon]

Is there a particular reason you're trying to downgrade a windows version?

[pseudo pollen]

windows 11 sucks

[weary galleon]

Is this a "I hate general change" statement or do you actually have issues with 11 that you don't with 10?

[pseudo pollen]

it's many different things that stacked over time

mostly little things

[stable cove]

I need to downgrade to windows 10 because the update in windows 11 won’t let me use the software to play my go reverb g2 so I have to downgrade to windows 10 until I get my BigScreen beyond

Then I’ll switch back to 11

[stable cove]

So looks like I gotta buy an external hard drive to back up my data

[dusky hearth]

wouldnt it be easier to buy a new like, 1tb nvme or smth, then install windows 10 on it

instead of buying a drive to backup data to

that way you dont have to reinstall windows twice

only once

you dont have to use a high end nvme, just like a p41 or whatever

and afterwards you can use the nvme as high speed game storage

[stable cove]

Can a pc have both windows 10 and 11 on one system though?

[dusky hearth]

you can dual boot, yes, or you can disconnect the drive that has windows 11 on

[cyan ravine]

You can have as many windows installs on it as you like

[stable cove]

I mean 2 internal drives might not be a bad idea. Maybe it’ll make it easier to switch back to windows 11 when I feel like it because one will have it on there

[potent portal]

Neuter the data collection and "AI" features, debloat the installer, and it's better than 10.

[pseudo pollen]

The interface is what really got me when I got forced to install it about a year ago, I have it on my laptop and it's not the worst, some things are way bettter. But some elements of the interface suck

[potent portal]

You can change that too

[cyan ravine]

You can make the interface literal windows 10

[golden viper]

Ok so I've been trying to diagnose this weird problem for a bit now. My son's computer when turned on power cycles a few times then sometimes let's you get into windows, which is fine for a bit but sometimes it will just randomly power cycle again but sometimes it enters a "how you can try to repair your pc" screen. That screen will say 2 options "restart" and "advanced options". I've tried running virus/malwear scan, removing the ram sticks and re seating them, starying it up with 1 ram stick (switched between the 2), re formatting both drives but keeping windows files, reformatting both drives clean and reinstalling windows from a clean slate. Most recently after the full wipe and windows re install it was staying on for hours while re downloading games back to his pc but after turning it off for the night and coming back to check it and start the downloading again it did the whole power cycle and to the "repair" screen again... I'm lost any help would be great.
there is 0 overclocking on this pc including X.M.P. The build is Asus prime Z-590p
I5 10400f
16gb of patriot 3200mhz ram
Operating system is on a 500gb m.2 only thing on that module
All other stuff is on a 2TB ssd
Air cooled cpu
Msi 2060 super
Hope I didn't leave out any important details. Amd thanks in advance.

[cyan ravine]

Xmp is off?

Just double* checking because 10400F supports a maximum memory speed of 2666 natively

[analog hearth]

thank the lord there's a technician reading. I'm not reading all that bruh

[dusky hearth]

me when i hate internal drives so i put all my drives into a SAN and use fiberchannel frfr (i will never do that, fiberchannel is too specialized, would only use iSCSI)

[potent portal]

JBOD master race

[dusky hearth]

real

[fading iris]

Difference between hd, qhd, and wqhd in short explanation

[potent portal]

HD = 720p
FHD = 1080p
QHD = 1440p
WQHD = Ultrawide 1440p

[fading iris]

Wqhd for Va panel 27inch curved bad?

Atleast u think it’s Va

[potent portal]

It depends

What model

[analog hearth]

never seen a 27" WQHD

Given standards, that defies physics

[potent portal]

Smallest I know of is 34" but the height is the same as a 27"

[cyan ravine]

Isn't wide 24", 27"

[potent portal]

It's possible that it was mislabeled, that happens sometimes

[cyan ravine]

So it would be wqhd, a rare 24" qhd but also wide

[analog hearth]

nah that's like saying one inch is equal to five inches

[cyan ravine]

Buv that's what the wide about man

We out here quotin nikado in main chat for dis man

[analog hearth]

Nikado is WQHD fs

[cyan ravine]

IT IS 27"

26.5" IS WHD

24" WIDE

WTH IS THIS MONSTROSITY SCREEN

27" WQHD

There's like 4 screens in existence with 24" QHD

[potent portal]

UWHD is 2560x1080

[cyan ravine]

This is like the ultimate unicorn

Yes uwhd is the half wide

Not the double wide

[analog hearth]

I thougt WQHD is just 21:9 1440p

[cyan ravine]

Ye

And uwqhd is the thick ass 34"