building-and-recc-chat

[stable cove]

So my gpu came with a triple cable and then my power supply came with this other cable 450w. I don’t think I can use both at the same time because of the plug so which do I need more?

[obsidian wigeon]

You use the 450w one

Cuz it's a 4080

Uses the newer 12VHPWR cable

You can also just use the triple 8 pin if you want

That 3 cable end is for the psu

The other end is for the gpu

[strong raft]

To be clear, use the psu cable. (no point using the 3 headed medusa adapter unless needed)

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[little osprey]

Hey guys. Need some help choosing a psu. Montech Titan 1000W 80 PLUS for 177€ or Seasonic Focus GX-1000W 80+ Gold ATX 3.0 for 197€?

[cyan ravine]

for what cpu and gpu

@little osprey

[little osprey]

7900xtx and 7950x3d, I know a 850w can do. 1k for future upgrades

[cyan ravine]

eh

what is the pc being used for

7950x3d and 7900xtx don't really have a lot of positive use cases

[little osprey]

Just want the best gaming performance paired with 4k video editing + streaming. And something that will last longer

[cyan ravine]

4K gaming is pretty hard to do

you'd want a separate card with passthrough imo

also, especially at 4K, you don't need anything ridiculous

7800X3D is solid, I know a ton of content creators out there with it

and ultimately the fastest X3D chip

[little osprey]

for video editing also?

[cyan ravine]

ye

if you aren't editing while gaming it's actually pointless

and most cases you aren't so

[little osprey]

and what about recording and streaming (while gaming)

[cyan ravine]

you have gpu encode

it should be fine

sir what's your budget for the pc, I'll show you a good streaming build

[crimson zinc]

@little osprey

Trust felix

[little osprey]

3k€

[cyan ravine]

what country

[little osprey]

But needs to be from: coolmatica

Because i live on an islane

[stable cove]

It’s gonna take me a good while to figure out where all these cables go onto but once I plug them all in right my power supply will turn on

[cyan ravine]

white or black pc

hey

@little osprey

black or white

bro peaced out on me 💀

[little osprey]

Any color, i really dont mind

Im here

[cyan ravine]

alr

jeez this website is so painful to sift through

[little osprey]

It is , right?

[cyan ravine]

it is painful

but

I think I'm getting somewhere with it

do you need wifi

@little osprey wifi yes or no

https://www.coolmatica.pt/store/processadores/96390-processador-intel-core-i5-13600kf-24mb-smart-cache.html
https://www.coolmatica.pt/store/motherboard/105311-motherboard-asrock-b760m-pg-riptide-4710483942211.html
https://www.coolmatica.pt/store/coolers/88830-cooler-deepcool-ak620-120-mm-preto-6933412727316.html
https://www.coolmatica.pt/store/memorias-dimm-desktop/103525-memoria-gskill-ripjaws-s5-64gb-2x32gb-ddr5-6400mhz-preto-4713294233165.html
OR
https://www.coolmatica.pt/store/memorias-dimm-desktop/94313-memoria-gskill-ripjaws-s5-32gb-2x16gb-ddr5-5600mhz-cl30-4713294231963.html
https://www.coolmatica.pt/store/discos-ssd/97090-ssd-solidigm-p41-plus-m2-2tb-pci-express-40-3d-nand-nvme.html
https://www.coolmatica.pt/store/placa-grafica/98731-grafica-sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-amd-24gb-gddr6-4895106293267.html
https://www.coolmatica.pt/store/caixas/103776-caixa-matx-nox-infinity-epsilon-rgb-8436587974205.html
https://www.coolmatica.pt/store/fontes/84771-fonte-modular-msi-mpg-a850gf-850w-atx-preta-4719072754273.html

[dim reef]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F3Yz9c peak or no

[cyan ravine]

give me a minute I'm not ready

roughly looks like this (pick 32gb or 64gb)
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/LzzrL9

[little osprey]

Is saphire better than the hellhound 7900xtx? They are about same price

[cyan ravine]

yes

they're both good but sapphire a bit better

I uh

scanned basically a vast majority of the selection

[little osprey]

And only 1 120mm cooler is enough?

[cyan ravine]

this seems like the more cost effective but still high end side of the parts you could pick there

it's a dual tower

it'll be more than enough for a 13600kf

we have a couple people here who daily that exact config

my only comment to you @little osprey

32gb can be enough

but 64gb would be putting a lot of extra life into the system

I did look at X3D, the 7800X3D on that website they are gouging

7900X3D was unironically better than both the 7800 and 7950

sat right between the two but had by far the best price

but the prices weren't great

you could however slot in a A620M tuf wifi

and 7900x3d

straight into this list

[stable cove]

So far I only found one SATA cable on my case. Does that mean I only need to plug one sata into the supply?

[cyan ravine]

if you really want to jump on X3D

though I will say the gains are marginal

what I put up there will be more than enough for what you want to do

Consider 4080 Super cards if and when they decide to turn up at that store

Nvenc can be a lot more convenient, it doesn't really perform any better than AMD

hope this helps

I've put way too much time into that LOL

[cyan ravine]

can definitely do better

[little osprey]

Thank you for your help and sorry for that time you put into it

Yeah the prices are high

[cyan ravine]

all good

[little osprey]

For a game like fortnire the 4080 super would be better than the 7900 xtx I guess

[cyan ravine]

they're comparable

it's just nvenc for streaming can be a bit nicer

can be

[little osprey]

And for an ssd , isnt there a faster one? Or it won't make a difference?

[cyan ravine]

won't make a difference

actually, maybe a fair bit

sorry

I forgot about 4K scrubbing

I'll have another look in a moment

[little osprey]

Thank you 🤌🏻

[cyan ravine]

@dim reef https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9BQQgB

OR

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tzmz9c

One of those two would be WAYYYY better

7800XT is also an option

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/43WJ7P/sapphire-21330-01-20g-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-21330-01-20g

would bring you under 1200 if you needed the budget

e.g
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mGmz9c
OR
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xfs7dH

ok, ssd

@little osprey I see like, two options and they're a lot more expensive than the benefits would really be worth

https://www.coolmatica.pt/store/discos-ssd/99470-ssd-m2-pcie-40-nvme-team-group-2tb-mp44l-4800r4400w-525550k-iops-765441062078.html
https://www.coolmatica.pt/store/discos-ssd/96834-ssd-xpg-gammix-s70-blade-m2-2tb-pci-express-40-3d-nand-nvme-4711085933072.html

Latter is like, peak

but it's not worth some 35% more for it is the thing

even if you do it for a career in a lot of scenarios

I'd just stick to the P41 Plus imo

[cyan ravine]

mhm

[stable cove]

Then what do I do with my pcies? The gpu only has one outlet?

[little osprey]

Wow this gammix is really fast , god damn. If I need 4TB should I pick 2 of them? I will have a LOT of video files

[cyan ravine]

If you can justify it I suppose yeah

But imo it's not gonna be world changing

if you need two ssd's get one of the S70 one of the P41

you don't need both for active 4K edit, just record to the fast drive and use the other to copy between

that is worth the maybe 30 seconds a day

and that's kinda what I'm weighing up in my head rn, it's a lot for a very small convenience even to go to the gammix

[little osprey]

In terms of time , between a 4k one and a 6k how much?

[cyan ravine]

and a 6K?

oh read speed

[little osprey]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

ignore those numbers

it's marketing

[little osprey]

Ok got it 😆

[cyan ravine]

they sustain that speed for like, 45 seconds then drop to nothing

pretty much all do that

let me go have a double check but I'm pretty sure the p41 plus is solid

here you can read with me

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/solidigm-p41-plus-ssd-review/3

[little osprey]

In terms of downloading videos from youtube the speed is limited to the ethernet speed right?

[cyan ravine]

compare the p41 plus numbers to roughly SN770/Platinum P41

and you can see where the P41 Plus vs Gammix lie

[cyan ravine]

yes

and for the record

P41 Plus is QLC

but it's a very VERY good QLC drive

if that matters to you

Ok my take

it's not that far behind an SN770

in terms of pure peak numbers yes, but you'll rarely be utilising that

so the difference will be fractions of a second

you really won't feel the difference unless you scrutinise it side by side

[obsidian wigeon]

Yep, you don't need to use those. The gpu only has one connector

[little osprey]

Thank you so much for your hel felix

[cyan ravine]

It's all good

[little osprey]

[cyan ravine]

At some point I should monetize my help

Meh, maybe later

[little osprey]

I will have a better look at eveything once I get back from work

[cyan ravine]

no worries

as far as performance it'll be mostly the same

just much more budget friendly

well, I say mostly, it's just the ssd and cpu really

but you don't really need those things as much

but as I said, 7900X3D and S70 gammix are an option

they just won't make a huge difference overall

if you were doing like constant media exporting at 4K, then multi-thread would be big, but editing and gaming involved, nah, not really as heavy

more of a "I will save a few seconds here and there" investment

[rain carbon]

Is sapphire generally better than hellhound or just with the xtx

[cyan ravine]

sapphire is generally better imo

they add QoL features to their cards that just make the interactivity and quality feel so much more genuine

if they're the same price, for sure Sapphire

but those extras aren't worth more than like...$15

because at the end of the day all AMD cards are pretty much heavily-based off or are reference

[rain carbon]

Ah alr

[cyan ravine]

I don't really otherwise discriminate AMD cards unless there's a known cooler issue or a card has a particularly low power limit

some are slightly better in some circumstances, others vice versa

electrically almost all identical

some...discrepancy on the low end, but nothing usually meaningful

it's not like Nvidia where choosing something like a ventus or gamerock over a founders can mean the improvement of the card quality by literally double

if that makes sense

[stable cove]

So I got this cable with my motherboard I found 4 holes it can plug into but where do I put the other side?

[dim reef]

thanks

[rain carbon]

I gotcha, thanks for the info

Ive been looking at cards and a lot of people say the 7800xt hellhound has hella coil whine in comparison to sapphire, so despite the fact the hellhound is 20$ less the benefits still might be enough for me

[obsidian wigeon]

It's for sata drives. You don't need those unless you want to add a sata drive

The other end that's not connected to the board is for those drives

[stable cove]

Thanks I’ve been plugging cables in and unplugging them back out and might take a while to get it right. I have the power supply plugged on and I’ve been turning it on and it hasn’t been doing anything. Either I’m pressing the wrong button on my pc or I don’t have all the right cords plugged in. Hopefully once I figure that out I’ll be past the frustrating part. Just would be nice to turn it on for a second to see which way the fans are blowing air

So what do I need to do before my pc will turn on or do anything?

[obsidian wigeon]

Is there any debug LEDs on?

You need to plug your monitor to the gpu too

Wait for like 5 mins

[cyan ravine]

powercolor this gen in general seems to have a lot of complaints about coil whine, but similarly

they also have quite good coolers

so there's happen circumstance to say the complaints of coil whine are because people can hear it in the silence better

[rain carbon]

I have open back sennys so noise is a big one for me

[cyan ravine]

I do too

honestly coil whine is a lottery

[rain carbon]

Ive heard that yeah

[cyan ravine]

I have a sapphire card with coil whine

so like

go figure?

[rain carbon]

I mean from what ive seen any top end card will have coil whine lol

I just want minimal

[cyan ravine]

that's more down to luck

[rain carbon]

Yee again ive read a lot of people saying that

[cyan ravine]

if you get it, then if your case is reasonable enough you likely won't here it

I see nothing wrong in throwing 20 more to a sapphire

but at the same time

20 is over the limit a bit imo

I'd spend 10-15

sapphire is good

honestly powercolor is too

just lacks the quirks of sapphire

the things that make it worth the 15$

[rain carbon]

My overall build is already pretty expensive, i dont think 10 bucks'll hurt much

[cyan ravine]

up to you really

[rain carbon]

Def, thanks for the input tho

I might wait for prices to go down again

[stable cove]

So far no

[obsidian wigeon]

Then no worries

It's doing its thing

[stable cove]

Well I’ll plug an hdmi into my gpu and maybe turn the power supply on and then wait 5 minutes. It’s just nothings been happening yet so I hope I didn’t buy all these parts for nothing

[obsidian wigeon]

You have to have the psu turned on

Flip the switch to on if it has one

[stable cove]

So I haven’t put my cooler in because I had to unscrew all the sides of my case to reach the cables. Is it a bad idea if the pc is running for just few seconds without one? I just wanna make sure things work before I put it on and put my cases sides back on

[obsidian wigeon]

It's ok, but the pc will probably not boot in some cases

Where the board requires a fan to be plugged into cpu fan header

[stable cove]

Ok so maybe I have to do that in order to get it turned on

Alright got my hdmi cord in my gpu and I turned on my power supply. Fans not moving and it’s not doing anything yet so do I wait?

[obsidian wigeon]

That sounds like you haven't plugged things in correctly

Are the case fans hooked up to the mobo?

[stable cove]

I think so they’re not moving though. Maybe I need to plug them in a different spot

[obsidian wigeon]

Hm, ok

You have everything installed right?

Cpu, ram, gpu, ssd, cooler and fans

[stable cove]

Yeah I’m pretty sure I put those components on. Shouldn’t I plug the cords in correctly before I put my air cooler on? Things huge

[obsidian wigeon]

Ye

You wanna do that for ease

[stable cove]

My motherboard has 4 holes for system fans? Aren’t those where I plug all my fans?

[obsidian wigeon]

Mhm

[stable cove]

Alright

I’ve had this cable but haven’t found anywhere to plug it into that would fit

Hopefully I don’t have to buy even more equipment. Felix’s build should’ve had everything I needed

[stable cove]

Trying to put on as many cables correctly as possible

[obsidian wigeon]

They're molex

Probably not needed for anything

[stable cove]

Yeah there’s no way that power supply possibly could be broken I just bought it. It’s probably just getting things plugged in the motherboard right is a pain for someone building a pc for the first time ever

So I got these cables sticking out of the case? Have any idea what I’m supposed to do with these? Plug them into each other or plug them into another cord?

[potent portal]

Those look like RGB cables. Specifically VDG, and most computers won't use those.

Or they could just be the fan power and they made them look weird for some reason, it's hard to tell. Do they have any writing on them?

[stable cove]

No

[potent portal]

Does the end look like any of these? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/589689072692494356/994365352412717106/20220616_191303.jpg

[little osprey]

Best video card for $400-500? For FPS especially for fortnite. Looking at a 7800 XT

[cyan ravine]

7800xt is def it

or 6800 xt if it's a little cheaper

[rain carbon]

From what ive seen they go same

[little osprey]

I bought a 7800 XT like 6 months ago. 7800 XT ASUS TUF 16GB, and its still the same price bruh

[little osprey]

Is it major difference or no?

[cyan ravine]

a couple %

[potent portal]

7800 XT just has newer features like AV1

[little osprey]

how much % we talkin

[cyan ravine]

it's almost margin of error

[rain carbon]

For 400 going down with the 6800 is a solid choice too

[cyan ravine]

5% ish

so like

[little osprey]

how much would I save?

[analog hearth]

I think the difference is marginal. my 6800 XT can get around 200 fps (probably more) in MW3 at 1440p

[cyan ravine]

if 6800xt is 20 cheaper

sure

7800xt also as Fal said, has next gen stuff

so it's...dependent on situation

[little osprey]

7800 XT prices havent changed...

Still $500

Though they would decrease...

[rain carbon]

Basically at that price range you stick with amd

[cyan ravine]

pretty much yeah

[little osprey]

So the 6800 XT is $20 cheaper.

Would rather just get the 7800

[cyan ravine]

4060Ti is worth thinking about at less than 350

but yeah

4070 is like

always 530+ which is disgusting

[little osprey]

Do you think there is a video card that is better than the 7800 XT for $400?

[stable cove]

To think installing the cpu was the most stressful part. To me that seemed awful easy except with the cpu in it took effort to close it

[analog hearth]

4060 Ti is a 1080p card, right?

[cyan ravine]

used 3080ti if you're lucky

[stable cove]

And here I am struggling horribly with the cables

[little osprey]

I saw a dude selling a 7900 XTX for $600 a couple months ago, sucks I didn't get it

[cyan ravine]

kinda sorta is pretty much yes it truly is, thanks nvidia forthestupidbitbusissuethatplagues40series

[cyan ravine]

would've been insane

[little osprey]

Like I want a 7800 XT because I build it before, but the no price change is outragous

[rain carbon]

Id be scared the thing wouldve been messed up in some way

[rain carbon]

At least the no price change shows its quality

[cyan ravine]

a good value card will hold it's value

and it's literally been

one of if not the best value new gen card

period

see: 6700XT

[stable cove]

I literally had to unscrew my entire case to get to the cables without breaking anything.

Found one of my cases fans cables but the cord is too short to reach the motherboard

So I have a sata cable that has just a c labeled on it so what does that mean?

[analog hearth]

c for sata

[stable cove]

Ok

Nevermind I found an extension cable

I’m gonna keep on trying. This might take forever but hopefully once I figure this out the power supply will finally turn on. Maybe the motherboard partially controls its function

I might try that paper clip method to ensure my power supply works. This is kinda stressful

[stable cove]

Alright great news I inserted a tiny staple into the wire of my power supply and turns out the fan was spinning so thank god it works I just gotta get the cables put in right so thank god I’m not out of luck

[mossy venture]

You did what

Oh

Ok

I thought you meant you stapled one of your power supply cables

[stable cove]

No I just took a tiny staple piece bent it and inserted it into the fan plugs like with the paper clip and that did the trick

So that means I’m not out of luck I’m just stuck on the cables. I also bought a splitter for my air cooler so that I could plug both fans into one socket. The cpu cooler

[stable cove]

I might keep my pc covered in a bag to reduce dust and then come back later. My legs and butt get hurt from sitting on the floor for so long

Sometimes I need to take a break and come back later

[lyric thistle]

You don't need to put it in a bag

[cyan ravine]

If anything a bag would be terrible cos of the static

[lyric thistle]

👆

[stable cove]

Ok then it’s just this is really going to take a while

Does the pc need the cooler plugged in order to turn on?

I just need it in for a few seconds to see if the fans are blowing air the right way

[lyric thistle]

you should install it properly before trying to turn it on or putting it in the case

once it's screwed down onto the cpu you can put the fan that came with it on with the wire attacher thingies

assuming heatsink, for radiators just put the fans on if they're not already installed

fans have airflow indicators, arrows that indicate what direction they spin and what direction airflow goes in, but you can also figure it out by looking at the fan blade design

it's just a rotating scoop that pulls air

[stable cove]

Well thanks. I’m gonna have to make sure all my cords are plugged in the motherboard correctly before attaching the cooler. My air coolers massive

And I’m probably having trouble plugging the cables in right now because I have my power supply on and plugged in and it’s been doing absolutely nothing

[lyric thistle]

each time you go into the computer to unplug/plug in something, you should turn off the psu

[stable cove]

Well only time I turn it on is when I’m testing it

Wouldn’t the pc have turned on if my cables were put in right?

[lyric thistle]

good good

should be, if you're briding the right pins on the front io pinout

took me like three tries to get the right pins lol

[stable cove]

I think the cpu cables go on the upper left of the cpu where the two 8 pins are

[lyric thistle]

friend was describing it as the two pins in the top right while I had her on video call and I took that as from the perspective I had the camera at, didn't work and a minute later we got the right pins

yes

[stable cove]

So with the power switch, rest button, and hhd I’ve found where they go on the mother board is there a certain way you put them in there or a certain side?

[lyric thistle]

I thuink they have a + and - pin and they need to be plugged in to their corresponding match, + on the cable to + on the board, - to -

the plug on the cable should be labeled which one's which, and you should be able to find the same situation on the board side by looking at the board manual

my case came with the front io all grouped together properly with a collar which is nice

so when you don't have the power switch plugged in, you just need to bridge the pwr + and - with a screwdriver

[stable cove]

Well hopefully I see those. Those cables are awful tiny

The power supply probably won’t turn in unless the power switch is placed right

[lyric thistle]

if you bridge the power switch pins with a screw driver, it will turn the computer on

assuming all essential power cables are plugged in like CPU and motherboard, and assuming the psu switch is in the on position

[stable cove]

Think my gpu came with a triple cable because it might require a lot of power to run. Think it needs three pcie slots

[lyric thistle]

three slots?

is it a three wide card then

I assume you went with a high end late model card and those are almost exclusively 3 slotters

[stable cove]

It’s just if I’m getting anything wrong it’s probably the power switch, reset switch and those because some plugs only go in one way so it’s impossible to get a lot wrong

Ok so on these tiny cords I found an arrow on the left side

[lyric thistle]

probably means the + pin? idk

[stable cove]

I haven’t been able to find a power led do some cases not have those?

[lyric thistle]

I guess so

my case has it, power button lights up

but Ithink my other case doesn't

coolermaster nr200 and thermaltake h18tg respectively

[crimson zinc]

What’s a good budget 12gb card?

Like max $400

Trying to challenge myself

[mossy venture]

6700xt

Used 3080 12gb/6800xt/6800

[crimson zinc]

6750xt? Or just basic 6700xt?

[mossy venture]

Either or

6800 is 16gb and is 410 new

[crimson zinc]

[mossy venture]

6750xt is basically a slightly oced 6700xt

I wouldnt pay more than $15-20 extra

If it's a better model too, maybe $30

[crimson zinc]

I’ve been restricting my limits of where and how much I do lists, along with checking if parts are good or not via pinned lists
Seeing if I can start being a reliable source of information for people

[mossy venture]

Thats dope dude

[crimson zinc]

Looking at restriction suggestions online too

[mossy venture]

Honestly a lot of my recommendations come from other people. Thermalright aios? Felix. Hynix ram? Felix/pato. Most of my goto cases, all my mobo knowledge, most of what I know is just an accumulation of this server lol

[crimson zinc]

I’m learning through a lot of the experts here. Like you and all others mentioned.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dMcpRK sub 1500

With a decent monitor

[mossy venture]

What I'd change to that
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BgtGwg

Or can do 7600 and ddr5

[obsidian wigeon]

not the 3060

pls don't

[flint sapphire]

can you fit in a 6800 tho

[crimson zinc]

That’s so much better

[mossy venture]

I mean 1500 budget w monitor I think can do 7600+4070s

[crimson zinc]

1111 is a wild number to see

[mossy venture]

Can almost fit a 7900xt. Takes off $100 to go down to 4070 super
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fH7LYN

[crimson zinc]

[near garden]

Hey guys I just got some ram Corsair vengeance 32gb 3600mhz and I have an msi b550 gaming plus with a ryzen 7 3700x

The pc doesn’t seem to boot up with the ram

I tried my old pair works just fine would that mean the ram is faulty ?

[mossy venture]

Clear cmos

?cmos

[jolly river]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[near garden]

i ended up goin to the bios and removing the memory speed from 3600mhz to auto and it ended up booting up but now im trying to figure out if i can push it to the advertised 3600speed without it not posting

[fading iris]

Would this Cooler Master MasterAccessory Vertical GPU Card Holder Kit V3 White, Premium Riser Cable PCI-E 4.0 x16-165mm, PCIe 3.0 Compatible, Adjustable Length for E-ATX|ATX|Micro ATX Case (MCA-U000R-WFVK03) https://a.co/d/1TjaOkc gpu holder be compatible with a 7800xt from sapphire pure

And after that I would like to ask if it would also be compatible setup with the gpu would it still have enough room to comfortably be in this case

https://www.newegg.com/white-sama-4503-atx-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-009W-00046?Item=9SIB41TJZ34830&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIB41TJZ34830-_-02072024

[stable cove]

I might have to wipe my cpu before I apply thermal paste. I touched the surface a little with my finger a few times.

[lyric thistle]

Tbh I did too but temps are fine lmao

I probably touched the underside even

[fading iris]

Speaking of that somewhat

Starting to buy pc parts so don’t gotta worry abt it but how often do y’all switch thermal paste

[lyric thistle]

Never

[fading iris]

Never heard of it being switched but I’m jus assuming that ofc after a certain amount

💀

Well damn

[lyric thistle]

Should do it every few years

[fading iris]

Oh

I have a other question since ur here

I could search it up but too lazy, n I’m a little stupid with pc stuff but r vertical monitors u see just regular monitors turned sideways

[lyric thistle]

Basically

[fading iris]

Like I know that’s a stupid question but they all seem to be almost the same length off of first glance

So I didn’t know if it was a specific brand that was rlly doing it or if mfs jus started flip in it

Thx though

[lyric thistle]

I forget how you rotate the screen in software

[stable cove]

Do you need a hard drive for sata cables? I heard that’s where they’re plugged into and I’m not sure if my pc case has individual hard drives. I think the sata cables are important and can’t be skipped

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah

They're purely optional

It's just another type of storage protocol

You're using an nvme ssd that runs on pcie, so there's already a storage solution installed

[stable cove]

Found my motherboard manual but for some reason its not showing the positive and negative for the power switch or reset button and I think I need those put in right or my pc nor my power supply will turn on

[lyric thistle]

If you ever get SATA drives you'll need SATA cables

3.5" or 2.5" hard drives, or 2.5" SSDs

(2.5" hard drives basically only exist because they're smaller for fitting in laptops but you can put them in a desktop anyway)

[stable cove]

Are sata drives required for the pc if you have storage in the motherboard?

[fading iris]

@cyan ravine

https://www.newegg.com/white-sama-4503-atx-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-009W-00046?Item=9SIB41TJZ34830&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIB41TJZ34830-_-02072024

With this case could this gpu holder and a 7800xt. Comfortably fit in?

https://a.co/d/1TjaOkc

[vivid copper]

The positive and negative don't matter with the other terminals because it's just a switch...it's either on or off.....and it won't effect anything with your PSU....as long as you have them plugged in your mobo will receive power when you click the power button on your case

[vivid copper]

no

[stable cove]

Thanks right now I’m just taking a break, researching, and asking questions. Just because I’ve been having trouble with plugging cables into the correct spots so might take me days to get my pc on. If I don’t get those cables in my power supply will do absolutely nothing

It’s just a pain in the bottom for me right now because I wanna make sure everything is put in right before I install my air cooler. Mines massive

[lyric thistle]

I assembled the basics on my motherboard box before putting it all in

Just CPU and GPU installed with PSU plugged into CPU GPU and mobo, obv cooler installed as well

[stable cove]

Isn’t the cooler gonna cover up the motherboard ports? There’s several spots you gotta plug your power supply cables and probably the case cables too

I am probably gonna have to read my motherboards online manual and see if there’s information somewhere about where everything goes

[vivid copper]

It depends on the cooler....and if you're smart you run your cables where they need to go before you put your board in. If it's an air cooler I install it before...for AIOs they are usually the last thing i install.

[lyric thistle]

Like where? You should be able to plug things in when it's installed

[stable cove]

At least some cables are almost impossible to get wrong

Psu cables

[obsidian wigeon]

I would read the manual and go from there

[lyric thistle]

It might be a little tight on the CPU power but it should be okay

[obsidian wigeon]

Researching and getting strayed far with a worried mind is just gonna ruin things

[stable cove]

Well seeing other people read their motherboards Manuals will help me figure out what to look for on mine

There was a smart zero fan setting on my power supply. When I tested it with a bent staple piece the fan blew with the main switch on but the smart zero fan one off.

Is that how it will work when actually plugging it into the pc?

[lyric thistle]

Yep

I just have the zero rpm fan turned off on my PSU because why not have the PSU fan running

Better cooling and essentially an extra case fan

Not much noise anyway

You can toggle the button at any time I guess

[vivid copper]

Yes. Most better made PSUs will have a zero fan mode where the fan will only cut on when the PSU is under a certain amount of load. Just like most GPUs do as well.

[obsidian wigeon]

I would enable the fan anyway

Keeping it running doesn't really reduce its lifespan

[lyric thistle]

Airflow go brrrr

[cyan ravine]

Should do

[fading iris]

Thx

So I'm going for a mainly white build but I got my power supply in black since my budget wouldn't allow me to spend extra for a white one

If I buy a white cable set on Amazon(can link if needed) should that have the same cables or nah

https://a.co/d/2vgnYbM

[strong raft]

Quick psu labeling pic for some people. If psu has a 12vhpwr cable and you're using 40 series gpu, 6+2 cables are likely unused. Thin wide connector near top 6pin port is the sata power many fan/(a)rgb hubs plug into.

This should be helpful also. rbg note: rbg is 4pin & 12v, Addressable rgb is 3pin & 5v.

[lyric thistle]

isn't the first slot m.2 thing only for asus boards

[strong raft]

well it's a general preference to use the cpu lanes also, even if it's not a big deal.

[potent portal]

No, it applies to most modern boards

[lyric thistle]

like I mean the slot not working with 10th gen

[strong raft]

oh that's not specific to Asus, and wasn't just a 10th gen issue. Was mainly 10th gen in 500 series mobo.

[potent portal]

That's not an issue people have run into for a while. Occasionally you'll get someone with a board that doesn't want you to use the top slot for whatever buggy reason.

[fading iris]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cJ8VHG

Sorry if wrong channel but at bottom of list it says possible compatibility issuesm if the motherboard is running a older bios version

So how would I know which version my specific one is using if I haven't received it yet

[cyan ravine]

Those look fine, you stick them on the end of the psu cables that came with the psu itself

Asiahorse is supposed to be very good, though I haven't got much in the way of first hand experience

[potent portal]

You won't know until you get it. The best way to be sure it's not a problem is to get a board with flashback so you can update easily.

[fading iris]

😭

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[fading iris]

Lol

[cyan ravine]

How much was the 7500f

[fading iris]

I suck with the whole driver and bios n that whole genre of stuff

Got no damn idea

[cyan ravine]

💀

[fading iris]

Found on on eBay unused at like 198. Buyer is legit

Haven't found any new ones tho

[cyan ravine]

I'd get a 7600 for 198 if it were possible

[fading iris]

Each new one I find that is from a legit site it isn't the same one n idk enough to know difference between half

Lemme check what I had before

[cyan ravine]

7500f for 198 is edging close for a small price dock

I'll take a look myself if I can brush up the list a lil

[fading iris]

Before I had a 5 7600 in it

But someone told me to jus switch because they perform the exact same but the 7500f doesn't have a igpu but I shouldn't have to worry Abt that

N considering 2 people said it n it favored my budget I didn't question😭 haven't bought the cpu yet tho

I have bought the memory, case(not case in list but case from before in chat can resend if needed), power supply, and I think that's it

Ordered motherboard which was a a620m rs pro wifi because I didn't wanna figure out the whole wifi duration but cancelled order n switched on list to a b650m pro rs

The pro rs wifi was out of budget n yes I know for good wifi to connect it's alrdy gonna be another 20. Sorry for a lot of typing n bad formatting

[cyan ravine]

Meh, just the psu really
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YRJp99/corsair-rm750e-2023-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-na

Gf1 2024 hasn't been tested yet

And it's not verified good

It's speculative to be worse than the older gen (new oem)

[fading iris]

😔

I have been failed

[cyan ravine]

Hey odds are it's not terrible

[fading iris]

Will it at least do with the setup ? Like will it effect the performance badly?

Because I slowly plan on changing most things in the setup besides gpu

[cyan ravine]

Unlikely to be bad, more just verification of a degree of safety

[fading iris]

So gaming on high settings should still be fine or possibility I should try n return

[cyan ravine]

If it's the 2024 I'd urge a return if free

If not 2024 keep it 100%

[fading iris]

Lemme check rq

[cyan ravine]

It's unlikely to be an issue

Thermaltake tends to (TENDS TO) have decent options for their higher end

They changed to a new supplier for 2024 tho, ce-link

And I've read from a few that it resembles a worse unit used by other brands

So it's speculative

It may have been reviewed one sec

Also I gotta jet in 5

I can't stay

[fading iris]

Idk what any of this means but if your going to check the review then thank you

[cyan ravine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/s/2kJxBO8udi

In a nutshell

So yeah, if it's possible swap it imo

It probably won't be terrible, but it's advisable to switch

Anyway I'd love to look into this more but I really gotta go

[fading iris]

Ok thx

[cyan ravine]

Remember, I mean this for the 2024 unit

Not 2023 or older

Good luck

✌️

[fading iris]

Cya n thx again

[vivid copper]

https://www.provantage.com/amd-100-000000597~7AAMD3MU.htm

From a legit distributor in Ohio.....after shipping and tax tho it's probably really close to the price of a 7600 so that might be the better way to go to be honest. And remember the 7500f will be a tray processor, so no retail box or anything like that. As it's really supposed to be an OEM only part.

[fading iris]

I know u wouldn't purposely send a sketch link but have u or anyone u know done business with this site or did u just find it

It's def cheaper then the other so I don't mind jus wanna confirm

[obsidian wigeon]

7500f isn't the same as 7600 however

And like he mentioned before, it's probably more expensive if shipping and taxes are added

[fading iris]

I heard the 7500f and the 7600 r almost exactly identical

Just the 7500f doesn't have a igpu but that I won't have to worry about a igpu at all and I don't need tow orry lol. Somewhat true or true or just flat out false?

That site is just a ducking hassle dude. Each time. I put adress it adds a damn extra zip code meaning it ain't even ship I think.

[vivid copper]

Yes i've gotten CPUs and GPUs from them in the past. My personal opinion is if you are that concerned about it, just grab an 7600. That way you'll have piece of mind and you'll 100% have a warranty... for me I live in Ohio and if i ordered one after taxes and shipping it would come to about $208. MC has the 7600 for $199 so for me it would be $216 after tax. I'd just pay the extra 8 bux for the extra 100 mhz and igpu.

[fading iris]

N I haveto out in loads of information just to see if result😭

What is mc

Or can you send link for that 7600 either I'd appreciated

[vivid copper]

MicroCenter

They don't do shipping so if you don't have an actual store near you that doesn't help

[vagrant thistle]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/99dfGP

Thoughts ?

[vivid copper]

Right now the cheapest 7600 is $220. You have to decide if the extra $20 ~ $40 bux is worth your piece of mind....

[fading iris]

Isn't the motherboard technically lacking like couldn't you get a cheaper ram and then just upgrade motherboard

[rain carbon]

Id probs put a little more into your power supply

[fading iris]

Idk I just noticed price difference don't take my advice lol

[vagrant thistle]

U talkin ab me ?

[fading iris]

Yeh they r

[vagrant thistle]

I mean what do y’all think

I just don’t know too much about motherboards or power supply

To make a good decision just really looked at some YouTube guides for the cpu and gpu lol

So can’t say idk

[fading iris]

My motherboard opinion isn't valid I rlly don't know much Abt parts at all

[vagrant thistle]

Same boat as me I know everything else is good to go just motherboard and power supply picked in a rush

[rain carbon]

The motherboard i think is fine, itll do what you need for that build

[vagrant thistle]

How about power supply

I could’ve got 750 but went with a 850 jus in case

Idk though

[rain carbon]

Id probs go up a to something like this honestly as a buffer https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/fxGhP6/corsair-rm1000e-2023-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020264-na

[fading iris]

Well the one I'm building has 436w or somewhere around there and I was told to get a 650 or a 750w

[vagrant thistle]

What do u know would work for sure

Obv not over the top but

Will get the job done

[fading iris]

I have only heard y need to go 100 over

If u have cash I would upgrade

[vagrant thistle]

Alright ye

[fading iris]

The one they linked is 1k watts

[vagrant thistle]

Yeah I might as well just in case

[fading iris]

Idk I think 850 would be enough but nothing against future proofing lol

[rain carbon]

750 mightve well jusr been a bomb

[fading iris]

😭

[rain carbon]

Look up the differenc between gold, plat etc

[vagrant thistle]

Bru idk anything about pcs just watched some vids and this what I came up with

[rain carbon]

Its the efficiency of your power supply

[vivid copper]

you're probably not going to be able to get that density of ram to run/xmp at that speed...that board is only rated and QVL'd to 6000 with dual ranked memory...so i'd stick with 6000 cl 30 and i don't know what prices are like but I don't see a reason to why you'd grab an XTX over a 4080 super. And unless you'd gonna have no other RGB, I'd get the elite version of the H9 or get the non RGB version of the kraken. Your PSU is fine.

[fading iris]

Some videos u watched they may not of had as much wattage as u

[rain carbon]

I wouldnt call myself an expert either so im giving what i know and waiting for more experienced peeps to chime in lol

[vagrant thistle]

Na the rgb gotta stay it has to look good

[fading iris]

Real

[vagrant thistle]

I ordered 10 Lian li fans as well

😐

[vivid copper]

So you ordered this stuff already?

[fading iris]

😭

[vagrant thistle]

No not the parts

[fading iris]

Idk much but I do agree ur r is overkilll

Ram*

[vivid copper]

So what have you purchased already?

[fading iris]

32gb ddr5 would prob do imo

[vivid copper]

It's not even about the amount of ram...it's the speed that's the issue.

[vagrant thistle]

What do I need to switch

[fading iris]

But with a downgraded ram card wouldn't he be able to comfortable run at their max due to rest of his parts being good enough?

Power supply guaranteed I think

[vagrant thistle]

I can upgrade if necessary

[fading iris]

I would go with 850 since I feel like u rlly don't need 1k but I would ask meezy since other. Dude said 1k

[vagrant thistle]

Na the 1k is fine

Is like 50 dollars more

[fading iris]

Wait for meezy to reply abt ram

[vagrant thistle]

Alright

Wait wait holdup

[fading iris]

I do see his point Abt switching gpu but ur GPU would handle still rly nc

[vagrant thistle]

Wait na I’m trippin

I put 64 instead of 32

[fading iris]

😭😭

[vagrant thistle]

💀💀💀

[fading iris]

That's what I was saying

[vagrant thistle]

Na na my cart has 32 on Amazon my bad

That’s my fault

[fading iris]

Like u overkilled that aspect imo

😭

[vagrant thistle]

Na yeah I don’t need that my bad

[fading iris]

Rest should be fine in my noobie opinion

[vagrant thistle]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cKKwpB

Alr there

Yeah so should I still upgrade

Power supply though ?

[fading iris]

If u want

Imo it's like ram situation

[vivid copper]

I don't know what you've purchased or not...and it hard to filter through all the banter but this would be my recommendation and I'll let you decide from there.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dPQk7R

[fading iris]

I fr think that at 636w u don't need over 360w over

Imo u would be fine with simple 200 over aka around 850

Only saying that because I was told 850 with my 450w setup was overkill lol

[obsidian wigeon]

850w is all you need

for anything that's good value for gaming

[fading iris]

^

[obsidian wigeon]

that whole build needs adjustments tbh

[fading iris]

Well damn

😭

Foxy can I send u mine?

Some parts I have already bought so not fully able to change everything but I'm also just curious on opinion

[obsidian wigeon]

sure

[vagrant thistle]

Adjustments like how though

[obsidian wigeon]

cooler is pretty expensive

[vagrant thistle]

Nope

I want it

[obsidian wigeon]

unless you really want the screen

[vagrant thistle]

I’m sorry

Yes

[fading iris]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CZWk7R

[obsidian wigeon]

welp, is the case also what can't be changed?

[fading iris]

Screen is mandatory I agree with this genius

[vagrant thistle]

No no I’m just like asking if the build will run fine

[fading iris]

Yes imo😭

[obsidian wigeon]

it will, but everything about it could be optimized

[fading iris]

Ts will run more then fine with the GPU n a insane cooler

I think they r jus saying if u wanted to get highest quality out of ur budget will still having goodluckd there r tons of improvement's

Foxy I sent my list check it out when u got time

I have bought power supply,SSD, a different case and like one more thing

[vagrant thistle]

Na na if it will run completely fine at it’s full capabilities then that’s all I’m worried about

[fading iris]

Tricky question

At its full capabilities means what?

Certain parts are more compatible with other parts yknoe

[vagrant thistle]

So like yeah that’s what I mean

[fading iris]

So like u could technically optimize everything we foxy said n degrade the cooler while upgrading a diff part or switching a diff part

[vagrant thistle]

I know the gpu and cpu run great together

And the memory ssd r good

(I think)

[fading iris]

Personally. I feel like ur chillin

U could of picked better parts all together from what I have heard

But that doesn't make the build bad

[obsidian wigeon]

I'm making these optimizations for free, don't worry lol

[fading iris]

😭

[obsidian wigeon]

And it'll save you money

[vagrant thistle]

Na man it just needs to run 140 frames and still make people

Squeal at the sight

When they walk in

[fading iris]

If ur only goal is 140 fps ur fine

😭

Beyond fine at that

I think u may be overthinking. Cause from what I see. Foxy is Abt to get u more bang for buck at a cheaper price with same if not better quality

[vagrant thistle]

Na yeah I’ll check it out

Either way the check comes in in a couple hours

So yeah

Loooool

[fading iris]

U prob wont like color or aesthetic tho

[obsidian wigeon]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/j769BL

[fading iris]

Me PERSONALLY I say the cooler stays but hey that's jus me

[obsidian wigeon]

144 fps? this thing will do 144 even at 4k in games that matter

so pretty overkill for any games if you're planning 1080p

[fading iris]

He had a 7900 xt before

But meezy switches it to a something super

[cyan ravine]

@fading iris did you check the psu

[fading iris]

What's a PSU again

[cyan ravine]

No.

[fading iris]

It's too early and I alrdy am stupid enough

Oh power supply

[cyan ravine]

The gf1 psu you got

[fading iris]

I'm ngl idk what to do

[cyan ravine]

@vagrant thistle catch me up on what ur asking earlier

[obsidian wigeon]

500 pounds less for same pc

[cyan ravine]

I'm happy to help give my 2 cents for a list

[obsidian wigeon]

they were asking if everything works well together or not

[fading iris]

Mb

[cyan ravine]

This ye? Feedback?

[fading iris]

Now I gotta retype all thid

Yes feedbacj

[vagrant thistle]

It’s saving me money a lot

[cyan ravine]

Alr lemme have a look

Quick question

[vagrant thistle]

Still though na

[cyan ravine]

How adverse are you to saving money versus maintaining an aesthetic

I'm very good at saving money

[vagrant thistle]

Aesthetic is mandatory

[cyan ravine]

Ok I'll keep it in mind

[vagrant thistle]

This thing has to make the females squirt

At the sight

[cyan ravine]

Ok 😂😂😂

Is this just a gaming build yeah?

[obsidian wigeon]

kek

gaming with aesthetics

[vagrant thistle]

Yeah I just really be gaming hella

[cyan ravine]

Alr

[vagrant thistle]

And I guess on discord calls 24/7

[fading iris]

So pretty much if the power supply breaks down a year from now I would be sad but at same time I wouldn't mind spending the extra 100. The problem is that I want to get pc parts by end of month n depending on how much other stuff is n how much the one u showed is price difference wise I wouldn't want to drop extra cash on power supply knowing that in 7months I will have cash to switch it before it dies

[cyan ravine]

I can see a few things I'd suggest

[obsidian wigeon]

corsair rme is usually the default good choice

[fading iris]

But at same time I'm not stupid even tho it's knew I don't want it to harm my PC or fry something due to getting a newer one

[cyan ravine]

If you can send me pictures or details I can identify if it's the psu you could trust or if it's the new one I'd be sus about

[fading iris]

Irl picture or from website I bought from

[cyan ravine]

@vagrant thistle dead set on the case or can it be similar

I know similar, similar better, and similar cheaper

[fading iris]

Oh also not to join y'all's convos but ab u might wanna check size of case n size of rest of ur stuff

Don't think u will have the problem but I have seen some people have a smaller set of components but ehir case is super big so it looks less aesthetics pleasing

Depending on if u want a big PC or something or something that is kinda jammed in n closer together

[vagrant thistle]

Cooler staying I can deal with motherboard / power supply / ssd / memory ram needs rgb and look slick other than that no not cooler for sure case and gpu is already bought so yeah….

[cyan ravine]

For the cooler

I could genuinely save you at least 100 pounds and give you a bigger screen

That does way more

Nzxt cam is also kind of a pain to deal with for their aios

[vagrant thistle]

I mean I can give it a look

[fading iris]

😭

[vagrant thistle]

I need 3 fans though

[cyan ravine]

That's fine I can do an aio

[vagrant thistle]

Alr lem c it

[cyan ravine]

I'm gonna list a few alternatives here

[fading iris]

Check this out on @Newegg:Thermaltake GF1 (2024) Fully Modular ATX 750W Power Supply - 80 PLUS Gold - Ultra Quiet - Zero RPM, PS-TPD-0750FNFAGU-P https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-2024-series-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-p-750-w/p/N82E16817153461?Item=N82E16817153461&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-17-153-461-_-02092024

Here is power supply I got exactly from new eg

[cyan ravine]

Need a couple more minutes

[fading iris]

Ok jus wanted to send so I don't forget

Also when u do reply plz @ me in it cause I might gtg so won't see it until later

[cyan ravine]

@vagrant thistle rq tell me if you like any of these cases

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/7qQKHx/montech-king-95-pro-atx-mid-tower-case-king-95-pro-black

This case has a whole 1080p screen for 50 pounds

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/qJyH99/jonsbo-d41-mesh-screen-atx-mid-tower-case-d41-mesh-screen-black

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HjHqqs/jonsbo-d41-std-screen-atx-mid-tower-case-d41-std-screen-black

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Jk7scf/lian-li-o11-vision-atx-mid-tower-case-pc-o11vx

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/sHYmP6/fractal-design-north-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-nor1c-01

[analog hearth]

That Jonsbo case looks cool

[cyan ravine]

Still got more coming

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/BhFmP6/gamdias-neso-p1-microatx-mini-tower-case-neso-p1-b

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2djBD3/hyte-y40-atx-mid-tower-case-cs-hyte-y40-b

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/TZdG3C/jonsbo-tk-2-20-atx-mid-tower-case-tk-2-black

[lyric thistle]

I don't think this is helping your case

[cyan ravine]

@vagrant thistle ok my suggestions https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/twp6L9

All the cases I listed work, some need fans, some don't

For the cooler, you can buy a 1080p mini screen off of Amazon for like, 70 pounds

Mount it to your case in the place of a fan

And you can run dynamic wallpapers, games, whatever you like off it

Lot more versatile, old phones can substitute that for free

Instead of paying like, £180 for a screen basically

There are also cheap tower coolers with screens that are very affordable that look nice too

The ssd could definitely be swapped. For one, this is a gaming build, and the difference between gen 3 and 4 is like, fractions of a tenth of a second in loading times in games. If you played hours easy day, you'd save seconds for like, twice the price

Also since 980 pros are infamously grabbed into a lot of controversy with not honouring warranties and the fabled read only bug that affected millions of 980 and 990 pros

The ram is a LOT better. It's slower but it's basically the same stuff underneath but a way more functional and effective kit. The rgb looks way better on teamgroup ddr5 than g.skill trident z5. I own kits of both

You could dial the same xmp from the teamgroup kit onto the g.skill kit and they'd be functionally identical for like, 5 minutes of bios time

The psu is better value

The cases are, as I've said, worth a look in

As an owner of a nitro+, they're nice, but not really worth it

If you really want that specific aesthetic though that's the only card that would give it. The hellhound looks really good too tho imo

Sticking to the same overall aesthetic, the same as to what you would have overall would be this to me:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LpJKMV

The only drawback is it's not a panoramic glass, but you also have the o11 vision option for that

But performance wise, the nitro+ isn't worth it, hellhound will perform basically identical for 200£ less

[stable cove]

Ok maybe I’ll leave that mode off until I know my whole pc will turn on. I’m probably gonna have to get the power button in the pc and plug everything in correctly before the power supply turns on

That power supply won’t just turn on or do anything by itself

[cyan ravine]

The mode doesn't matter

It won't

If you don't press the power button nothing will happen

That switch just means the difference of the fan running all the time, or just when it needs to

Source: I have one

[stable cove]

I mean the power supply probably has a fan on it for a reason it’s probably supposed to be spinning

[cyan ravine]

Nope

Only if it needs to

Modern psu's selectively run the fan for temp management and otherwise leave the fans off to keep the noise profile down

It doesn't harm the psu whatsoever

They put it on there with the full intent it's by design to last in either mode

[lyric thistle]

I don't even see the point, it doesn't make enough noise

[cyan ravine]

My 1600W's do

[lyric thistle]

I can hear the coil whine in my monitor over it lol

[cyan ravine]

Boy do they make noise

When that fan goes you do hear it

But on a lot of units the fan is indeed silent

So, running or not, it's just a preference thing

Zero reason to be concerned

It's not some doomsday switch lol

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

[fading iris]

Felix do u think it will last 7 months?

Don't need it for a long long run because after PC is done built I will switch budget to games then go PC aesthetic like cords n GPU holder n etc

Then after 4 months after they i will prob then switch it

I just don't want it to mess up performance or fry anything. I know it's not best option I just need to know if it will do for year max but prob 7 months

[cyan ravine]

It's in all likelihood fine

It's just worth verifying

If it turns out to be like

Tier C

Then it's underwhelming for your spec

[stable cove]

I may still leave the zero fan off just until I know the pc works. The power supply fan should start spinning if everything is plugged in right

[cyan ravine]

But if it's almost as good or is the older version it's gonna last a VERY long time

@fading iris send me a picture of the box

I can tell straight away without any need to worry or panic

Or send me the link to the article you bought from

[fading iris]

I left home I don't have a picture of box ATM sadly. Will the link do it u need pic of box

I tried to DM n ur dms closed but here is the link

https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-2024-series-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-p-750-w/p/N82E16817153461?Item=N82E16817153461&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-17-153-461-_-02092024

I bought it directly from this link

Idk if the one on Amazon is exact same but it was gf1 2024 n they had almost 5 star reviews. A few people had problems but I feel like that'd with every product lol idk tho

[stable cove]

So when I finally get my pc cables plugged in right shouldn’t all my pc fans start spinning?

[cyan ravine]

Ah ok

[cyan ravine]

Not until you turn it on

I'll have better look to see if I find anything on that unit @fading iris

[fading iris]

Ok thx

Also have u looked at my build in general before?

[cyan ravine]

I remember it

[fading iris]

If not I don't need u to change anything just curious if it could run r6 and fortnite n maybe val on high settings

[cyan ravine]

7800xt 7600/7500f (either or cpu is fine imo)

It would

[fading iris]

And apex prob. My last PC has terrible quality so not hoping for ultra settings on any game but just avg high settings with a nc feel to it

[cyan ravine]

All the games you listed run very easily on rdna3

So it's gonna be fine

[fading iris]

😎 thx

Out of curiosity what happens when u get the avg virus?

Hasn't happened to me besides years ago on a old laptop but with built PC's or pre built PC's what do u replace like the whole PC or only.the CPU or what

[cyan ravine]

The what virus

?

Oh

You mean just a virus in general

Well any number of things can happen, they're viruses

Maintain good search habits and avoid dodgy websites and windows security should do a good job of the rest

Ok @fading iris

I have combed like

Almost everywhere

I have one more source I can ask, I'll lyk within the next 24 hours

But if I don't get a clear answer from them, I'd strongly urge either waiting for reviews on that unit or swapping to the RM750e

It's better to not risk a big problem imo

Odds are it's a perfectly fine unit, but since there's a possibility it could be terrible, I just wouldn't risk it

[fading iris]

Ok thx. Hmu when u get second.verificstion

[potent portal]

+adblock

[stable cove]

So doesn’t the power supply need to turn on before the pc can turn on?

[potent portal]

The switch needs to be on, but when you press the power button it sends a signal through the motherboard, which then tells the power supply to turn on.

That signal runs off of 5VSB (5 volt standby) power that is always active when the power supply is plugged in and the switch is on.

[stable cove]

So yes I need to have the power supply switch on before the pc

[fading iris]

I would do so many things to not have taxes dude

[fading iris]

Idk a better place to ask but when I had a worse PC and it was trash I had to turn down my resolution like crazy. This meant I had to turn in game res down and also went into the game file n pretty much altered the resolution in that file. I was curious when I build my PC and I ofc will be playing on order settings. When I re download val will the resolution stay altered? Or will it technically be different since I reinstalled on a new device. Because I'm wondering if my riot account will know the game file or wtv idk

[cursive wharf]

The good ones, like UBlock Origin.

Not the bad ones, like AdBlock Plus

[naive latch]

Can someone help me with some decisions with ram and my cables and psu

[fading iris]

Size matter slightly more then performance to me which I know is stupid but I rlly would prefer a 27inch n a curved is a plus plus. I know this request is very unlikely n a bit of contradictions but if u know any plus send

The above message I copied and pasted n it's for a monitor for my setup so eone said my setup means I should prob get a 1440p monitor

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CZWk7R

Said setup

[stoic island]

What's the budget?

[stoic island]

What exactly do you need help with?

[naive latch]

I want to either get custom cables or cable extensions but idk which one to get

I have the pq850m and a 4070ti super

I’ve heard that you shouldn’t get extensions for the 12vhpwr

[frigid jackal]

if I hit this w/ a hammer should I be chilling

[naive latch]

Should be fine just make sure you use a dead blow hammer so no energy is absorbed

[fading iris]

For monitor under 180 preferably around 140 to 160 despite how that sounds

[frigid jackal]

its over

[naive latch]

AsiaHorse PSU Cable Extension Sleeved Kit, ATX Compatible with Universal Connectors, 30cm in Length, Compatiable with 3090Ti 4070Ti 4080 4090, with Cable Combs

Buy me this salad

[pearl gulch]

Hi, I don't look at hardware except for once every 2 years. Last time I was building a PC was during the GPU scarcity. Is that still happening? Is there anything else I need to look out for this time around?

[pseudo pollen]

gpu scarcity is gone, you should be able to get a really good gpu for msrp or lower :)

[pearl gulch]

thanks. vmaybe I'll just do pc part picker again

Is samsung's evo pro series still king of SSD's for performance / speed / reliability or have things stabilized in that space?

[crimson zinc]

We can help you develop a list

[pearl gulch]

ill take any help I can get 😛

[pseudo pollen]

a lot of good ssd's have come out, and samsung is just overpriced rn

[pearl gulch]

hmm, guess I'll start looking around. going for 2 TB minimum, equivalent or better to the 980 evo pro in speed and then best price, I guess.
My current SSD had bad sectors out of the gate, so trusting the name brand for reliability means less to me now.

[naive latch]

What’s your budget

[stable cove]

Think a Q tip and a drop of rubbing alcohol would clean a cpu without damaging it? I know I touched the surface a little to make sure it was in place

[pearl gulch]

between 2 and 4

[naive latch]

Thousand?

[pearl gulch]

yes

I'll probably lean closer to 2, just because that's where I've always leaned, but I can go up to 4.

[naive latch]

Throw a 4090 and a 7950x3d in a nv7 with the good ass Corsair cooler idk the name get 64 gbs of ddr5 7200 cl30 and a b670e

You want a solid 2 that looks good

I just built one

[pearl gulch]

got a link to your build so I can look it over?

[naive latch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BbYjh3

i changed the ssd to the asgard am4 and the gpu to the white version

also changed the ram to the gskill trident white

you can change the cooler because your budget was way bigger than mine but that one is good enough for that cpu

also since your budget is bigger get a better white psu

[pearl gulch]

thanks. baseline helps a lot. not sure what you mean by white psu, but I'm sure I'll find out soon enough

[naive latch]

white power supply

if your going for a white build

[pearl gulch]

the word white is what I don't understand

[naive latch]

if not thatll take like 200 off the build

ah

[crimson zinc]

@pearl gulch lemme make you a list

PC build questionnaire
———————
Your Country+Currency:
Your Budget:
What is needed?(include peripherals if needed):
Your desired use:
Any Aesthetic choices:
Your progress on the build(0%-100%):
Size preference(micro, atx, etc.):
Particular programs you want to run(blender/Witcher 3/etc.):

@pearl gulch fill this out for me

[pearl gulch]

PC build questionnaire
———————
Your Country+Currency: USA; $.
Your Budget: 2,000-4,000
What is needed?(include peripherals if needed): 3 -4 monitor support, no more than 1 Display Port on GPU, integrated bluetooth support, M.2 newest gen SSD 2-4 TB, HDD with at least 6 TB for high read/write needs, no SLI bridging, strong virtualization support, integrated TPM, not dedicated.
Your desired use: Gaming, low end game development, Video recording and editing.
Any Aesthetic choices:
Your progress on the build(0%-100%): 10%
Size preference(micro, atx, etc.): no real preference on size. ATX works
Particular programs you want to run(blender/Witcher 3/etc.):
Unreal Engine development, blender, video capturing apps, games of random graphics requirements, will buy Win 11 Pro, VS Code, Visio and other similar apps.

agh, hit enter early

[fading iris]

They wouldn't fit in the budget regardless but does any cooler with the little digital screen Infront put images on the little screen or is it only that kraken one?

[stoic island]

I don't think pq850m has dedicated 12vhpwr, so you'll need an adapter either way. Extensions for 12vhpwr just needs to be double checked to be 16awg and need to be triple checked to be completely plugged in.

[naive latch]

It doesn’t😦

[stoic island]

They're even putting screens on air coolers now like on the ak620 digital lol

[naive latch]

Aren’t the adapters the ones that burn up

[fading iris]

Is the wire extensions u buy on Amazon r they same as wires that come with power supply?

[stoic island]

They were burning up on the interface between the adapter and GPU iirc, mainly due to bad contact

No

[fading iris]

The power supply to fit in budget i got was black n idc since it won't rlly be seen at all but what Abt the wires they r black so I'm tryna buy white wires but it only says wire extensions

https://a.co/d/awzWEsI

[stoic island]

The pin outs from PSU to the cable aren't always the same, but the pin outs from the cable to the components are standard

So extensions will generally always work

Getting replacement cables takes some research

[fading iris]

I know these r sort of popular so I'ma trust they work

[crimson zinc]

@cyan ravine out of my league

[pearl gulch]

what makes it out of your league? the development end is for fun and isn't high end. It is mostly a gaming PC

I don't plan on using CAD software or anything, so really just pumped up GPU, RAM, SSD and an extra (maybe RED worthy) HDD for media/anything that reads and writes a lot.

I planned on doing air cooling only, but that didn't work out too well on my current PC... temps are dangerously close to 'needs to be looked at' when I play Space Engineers

[stoic island]

I'll try to make a quick list but what I know is a bit out of date

[pearl gulch]

I think I'm a little out of depth on the GPU side of things. I'm not used to the way they display chipsets and then have a bunch of manufacturers.

[potent portal]

Could do a 7950X3D/4090 in that budget

[stoic island]

Btw do you really really want newest gen for SSD? Gen 5 is cool and all but it basically all takes active cooling rn

[pearl gulch]

probably not

[stoic island]

I was thinking like 14700k 4080 super

[pearl gulch]

that's part of the reason I'm here asking

[stoic island]

E cores might be nice for rendering/coding

[pearl gulch]

so maybe I'll just stay gen 4

[potent portal]

If the primary purpose is gaming then core count is secondary

[pearl gulch]

my current CPU is 8 cores, 16 logical, so pretty sure its all up from there.

[stoic island]

Fair, but it's nice having e cores to dump random workloads on, like make blender render with e cores while playing games or smth lol

But performance would suck

[pearl gulch]

e cores?

[stoic island]

Efficiency cores

[pearl gulch]

I likely won't game and render at the same time.

[stoic island]

Intel adds more smaller weaker cores that you can use to do other things with

But yea probably unnecessary now that I think about it

[pearl gulch]

I used to work on the same computer and use multiple Virtual desktops, but then they required SSO and a Azure domain joined profile to log into half the stuff, so I don't do weird stuff like that anymore, just use a crappy KVM switch

[pseudo pollen]

also, only 1 display port?

[pearl gulch]

HDMI preferred, because of my other peripherals and bad history with DP

[potent portal]

You can always use DP to HDMI cables, because the high end GPUs all have at least 2 DP ports

[naive latch]

You guys got a good psu suggestion with white cables?

[potent portal]

GF1 snow

[pearl gulch]

I just assumed I'd get the same loss of performance that you get with most conversion cables. do you retain the functions like USB port sharing from monitors if you use DP to HDMI cables?

I've only ever allowed conversion cables for my work computers, so I have no idea if my monitors' USB connections will carry over.

[pseudo pollen]

usb sharing usually requires another separate usb cable iirc

[potent portal]

What you're describing sounds like a KVM and yes that requires another cable

[naive latch]

Any others just so I can have a few options

[pearl gulch]

then I don't know how my speakers work 😛 they are plugged into the bacxk of my monitor

or my headset

[pseudo pollen]

just get white extension cables

[potent portal]

That's just the audio passthrough

[naive latch]

Can’t

My psu doesn’t have 12vhpwr

[pearl gulch]

oh, I'm mixing up features, sorry.

[naive latch]

Might as well get one with white cables

[pearl gulch]

Maybe it's time to downgrade to 2 monitors. I don't really use the third monitor anymore.

simpler is bettah

[fading iris]

U selling third?😭👀

Or just gonna save it

[stoic island]

Took a while because my mobile data was a little spotty and I was on mobile, but here's a start
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wt4HQP

Can prob get better or more ram, I just know the 5600c32 kit is hynix, not sure about the rest of the kits

Ssd wise it's not the cheapest e18 drive but I have trust issues with s70 and xs70 switching parts lol

[cursive wharf]

How much modelling you doing? Are you doing large environments with high details? If so, 48GB RAM may be more ideal.

[fading iris]

Selling third?

[cursive wharf]

Also it's pretty uncommon to "need" anything more then a 7800X3D (or in general a higher core count CPU) for game dev. It's rather uncommon to do large compiles as most of the time you'll only compile code you wrote.
Though with that said, you do have the budget for 7950X3D so it is kinda recommended in that sense. But it'll rarely help the everyday junior gamedev.

[pearl gulch]

I will likely sell 2, they are gen 1 - 4k monitors. pretty old lol

[fading iris]

Idk Abt gens

[strong raft]

They mean probably 60-75hz, etc.

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cxj6L9

The other list is much more cost effective

Can do a combination of the two too

Or third option
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BY7tsh

[pearl gulch]

ima look at em all 😛

[mossy venture]

If you dont really need high multi core perf, 7800x3d best option for you

[pearl gulch]

I don't. affordable and performing is better to me.

[crimson zinc]

Decide what you’re going for?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QH2mBL
This is my list atm

[pearl gulch]

not fully done picking through the lists people made for me, have them all open in separate tabs while dealing with some RL issues

[cursive wharf]

4080S + AW3423DWF monitor would be more ideal. Cheap VA monitor doesnt really stand up to actually good quality OLED. Lowering GPU from 4090 to 4080S well makes up for the monitor upgrade

[dry remnant]

What’s the play here?

Just built my pc, powered on and this is what i see

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n3bcFs this is the build btw

Can I press Y? It’s the first time I’ve turned this on

Techies please help me 😅

Nvm I figured it out

[strong raft]

Yep, helps to read part of the screen. (although it is a semi confusing message if not having seen it before)

[mossy venture]

7800x3d fs then

[mossy venture]

Here's one more to look over, sorry
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y87tsh

You can go 7900xtx or 4080 super, $900-950 for xtx or $1000-1100 for 4080 super, both around 30% worse than a 4090.

For that much cheaper, it is FAR better value

There are also certainly cheaper case options, I just like the look of the sky two lol

32gb is plenty for gaming, so can also save $55 and go for a 32gb 6000c30 kit

[potent portal]

That room is a lot cleaner than some of the people I've seen here

[mossy venture]

And storage you can swap in an 8-16tb hdd for $65-150, I would recommend refurbished