building-and-recc-chat

[mossy venture]

Corsair 240mm betrer

[potent portal]

True they'd probably go nuts for this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fLjRsY/corsair-icue-link-h150i-lcd-631-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9061010-ww

[mossy venture]

Also smh not enough corsair

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9fMwHG

[potent portal]

If you do all corsair they're going to call you out on that too

Gotta strike the balance if you want to bait them properly

[mossy venture]

True

[crimson zinc]

Surprised Corsair hasn’t dipped into 4090s and made an RGB one yet

[zenith cargo]

what new ryzen am5 cpus can I pair well with my 6900xt for 1080p high fps?

[earnest olive]

get a 7800x3d

[potent portal]

The 7800X3D is the single best gaming CPU right now

But even the 7600 can handle a lot of fps

[lone flame]

[potent portal]

Case in point lol

[stable cove]

Thought everyone in here hated Corsair

The water coolers the fans

[potent portal]

We don't hate them per se, they just make some bad or overhyped products

There's better for cheaper usually

[lone flame]

my psu from them is noisy so i prob wont use them again

i had a mech keyboard from them a few years ago that just broke

keys double typed a bunch

got a 70 dollar keychron that i love the feel of last march

[potent portal]

You can RMA the PSU, whether it's coil whine or the fan they usually honor it

It's not likely you'd get two bad ones in a row

[lone flame]

i dont know how to rma stuff lol ive never had to do something like that

[potent portal]

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025379691-How-do-I-get-a-replacement-for-a-defective-product

[mossy venture]

May I ask why you're running 1080p on a 6900xt?

[earnest olive]

they make good products and bad (or good but overpriced) products, they just tend to get memed on because they have dedicated fanboys buying all the products regardless and treating it like a status symbol

it's like the apple of PCs

[mossy venture]

But ye 7800x3d is the only cpu I'd recommend for 1080p with a gpu that strong

7600 for 1440p would be good

[lone flame]

if i was actually running my 6950 rn it'd be running 1366x768

[earnest olive]

my friend using 3060ti to play league of legends on a 900p 60hz monitor:

[stable cove]

When we put windows on a flash drive aren’t we gonna have to do on another device? Because all I have right now is my old computer from Dell so that’s where I’ll have to install it from to put on the drive and transfer to my gaming pc

[crimson zinc]

Just remember the Razer pc case

[earnest olive]

yes

[potent portal]

Yes*

[earnest olive]

you can do it with a laptop

[potent portal]

Any device really can do it, except some apple ones

I've done it with my android phone

[earnest olive]

or an android phone if you have a USB-C flash drive or appropriate adapter or whatever

[potent portal]

A lot of high end phones come with the male C to female A adapter

[earnest olive]

interesting

[potent portal]

My pixel 6 did for example

[earnest olive]

my high end phone did not

I have a flash drive that does both A and C though

[cyan ravine]

LMAO

[dusky hearth]

pixel 8 does as well

actually

wait nvm

nvm about the actually part

it does include it

[crimson zinc]

What are some of the best sticks of 48GB ram?

[mossy venture]

2x24 or 2x48

[crimson zinc]

2x24

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RV4Zxr/gskill-ripjaws-s5-48-gb-2-x-24-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-f5-6400j3239f24gx2-rs5k

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WmCZxr/gskill-trident-z5-rgb-48-gb-2-x-24-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-f5-6400j3239f24gx2-tz5rk

[cyan ravine]

1st of those 2 prob

Ripjaws sinks are better

[mossy venture]

^

[potent portal]

Honestly they all use the same die so you can overclock them all to similar potential

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/864Y89

I don’t think I can upgrade and still fit the theme anymore

I used my space age build to swap out some much nicer looking parts.

I get the keyboard for free, so that’s why it’s the only non-priced part

[mossy venture]

Looks very nice

Cooler price hurts me but for the theme I understand

[crimson zinc]

It hurts me too

But it’s either that or the thermal assassin

Wait

What’s the difference

[mossy venture]

Se I think stands for slim edition, at least it does on their aios

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WGbTVW

[mossy venture]

So might be skinnier?

[crimson zinc]

Swapped to the slim then

[mossy venture]

Not sure if there's any perf difference

[dusky hearth]

then those are 24gb sticks

[crimson zinc]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/vxl3js/thermalright_peerless_assassin_120_pa120_vs/

Seems to be just slightly smaller and have less fins

[weary galleon]

I thought SE was special edition lmao

My "slim edition" cooler still works perfectly fine though lol

[wide blaze]

I just got my new pc but it keeps booting to bios rather then going straight to windows

I changed the boot priority to windows

but yet it doesnt want to boot to windowes

[crimson zinc]

@wide blaze it’s telling you to get off Roblox for the 15 hours you’ve been on /s

[strong raft]

Se, short edition. - less fins, shorter.

[wide blaze]

bro what

[potent portal]

Does it give any kind of message before it goes to bios?
If not try updating bios.

[wide blaze]

how to update bios

[wide blaze]

nope just the same message press f1 to startup and then it sends me to bios before I go to windows

[potent portal]

Can you get a picture of the screen where it says to press F1

Since it lets you boot it might be something simple like you didn't plug anything into the CPU fan header

[wide blaze]

alright hold on

The thing is the cpu fan is perfectly fine

the speeds are normal

when I checked

[potent portal]

Yeah it's exactly what I thought

The fan might be working fine, but is it plugged into the header labeled CPU_FAN

If it is then you can go into the settings and tell it to ignore the fan

[dusky hearth]

or move the header

move the cpu fan to the correct header

[wide blaze]

it’s in the right place

how do I tell it to ignore it

[potent portal]

There should be a search option in bios

Search for CPU fan speed

[wide blaze]

it’s finally booting up into windows

thank you

[potent portal]

Here's your latest bios too if you want to update that while you're at it
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-STRIX-X670E-E-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-1807.zip?model=ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI

[wide blaze]

I just built the pc today so I was a little scared

[potent portal]

Generally "if it ain't broke don't fix it" applies to bios so if you have any other issues try that update

Your memory appears to be running at a non-optimal speed, do you have DOCP on?

[cyan ravine]

Ddr5-3600 seems odd

[potent portal]

Exactly my thought lol

[wide blaze]

uh

I might

Idk I havent tweaked with bios

just installed windows 11

[potent portal]

It would be on the first screen that comes up with bios on the left

[wide blaze]

uh

I'll go into bios

and check

[potent portal]

Turning that on will help a lot in games. Judging by the memory size you probably have two 32GB sticks?

Hopefully it's 2 and not 4

[wide blaze]

uh

itx 4

[potent portal]

Ooh boy

You're in for a fun ride

DDR5 doesn't work so well with 4 sticks

[cyan ravine]

Well if you run into problems, first thing I'd point fingers at is the 4 stick config yeah

[wide blaze]

so far

I haven't run into anything

[potent portal]

Is it a kit that came with 4 or did you take two 2 stick kits

[wide blaze]

but the bios

[potent portal]

Because it's running slower than my DDR4

[mossy venture]

Wait 4x8 or 4x32

[cyan ravine]

4x16

[potent portal]

4x16

[mossy venture]

Ok good lol

[cyan ravine]

Docp doesn't look like it's running atm

Hence ddr5 3600

Which is worse than ddr4 lol

[mossy venture]

That's an odd jedec no?

[potent portal]

Much worse from the jedec latency

[wide blaze]

uh

is there anything i should do

[potent portal]

First answer this

[cyan ravine]

When you bought the ram

Did you buy 2 packs

Or 1 pack

[wide blaze]

hold on

lemme look at what I bought

[cyan ravine]

Alr

[potent portal]

A link would be fantastic if that's what you're getting

[wide blaze]

its 4x16

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kQFbt6/corsair-dominator-platinum-rgb-64-gb-4-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl36-memory-cmt64gx5m4b5600c36

[potent portal]

Ok good, it should be able to do that speed with 4 sticks

[cyan ravine]

Bleh

[wide blaze]

so nothings wrong

[potent portal]

So all you should need to do is go into bios and enable DOCP

[cyan ravine]

It's not running 5600 yet

[wide blaze]

oh

hold on

[cyan ravine]

Can't say nothing's wrong yet

[potent portal]

It'll take some time to train when it restarts so don't panic

5 minutes is normal for that much memory

Only the first time too

[wide blaze]

im gon finish this maden game then i'll restart it

and change the bio

[cyan ravine]

To fix your cpu fan speed error it's 1 of 3 things:

1. Plug a fan into CPU_Fan
2. Fix the existing fan and plug on CPU_Fan so the rpm registers properly (bent pins)
3. Under 'monitor' in bios advanced section, set cpu fan warning to ignore (pretty sure it's called low speed limit)

[potent portal]

B die too

[cyan ravine]

Bleh die

[wide blaze]

I fixed the cpu fan warning

I had it plugged into the right spot

[cyan ravine]

Good, next thing is make sure docp is working and set your aio pump to max speed (if you have one)

Via bios

[potent portal]

Honestly... max speed would be overkill. Any AIO would be overkill on a 7800X3D. A 120mm AIO with the pump at 70% would work.

[wide blaze]

I ddont wanna go max speed

[covert crypt]

could someone tell me if this ram i bought is any good ?

DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000)
Timing 30-40-40-96
CAS Latency 30
Voltage 1.40V

[wide blaze]

I just want standard

[potent portal]

Based on those specs alone it seems good

[cyan ravine]

Good but how much

And how many gb

[covert crypt]

newegg price lol 284.97 CAD and 64gb

[cyan ravine]

Ah I see the kit

Not too bad

This right
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/QJ3gXL/gskill-ripjaws-s5-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3040g32gx2-rs5k

[covert crypt]

Running it with these Specs:

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D
MOBO: Asus Tuf Gaming X670E + Wifi
GPU: None for now waiting on the 4080 Super or ill buy a used 4070 TI and wait for 5000 series

and ya

[cyan ravine]

Aio pumps are 9/10 times designed for max speed

There are rare occasions like galahad, ek elite, and deepcool LS where something like 70% is acceptable

[cyan ravine]

How much was that board?

[potent portal]

Too much whatever it was

Doubtful they need the X670E features

[cyan ravine]

That's what I'm trying to find out lol

[earnest olive]

how is my anime going to stream fast enough if i don't have 16 5.0x4 nvmes in raid 0?

smh

[covert crypt]

there was a promo Mobo + CPU - $808.99 CAD

[cyan ravine]

Oof

I literally minecraft oof'd irl

[covert crypt]

why what happened lol

[potent portal]

A 200 CAD mobo would have been the most I would recommend

[cyan ravine]

Ok I need to dig a little deeper here

What is getting plugged into that motherboard

[earnest olive]

hmm

[cyan ravine]

Let's go through it

Cpu, 2 sticks of ram

Gpu

What else?

[potent portal]

@cyan ravine

[covert crypt]

oops here https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9tfmRK

[potent portal]

POST screen tells all

[cyan ravine]

Wrong dude

[potent portal]

derp

[cyan ravine]

AAAAAA

[earnest olive]

👀

[wide blaze]

uh it no longer offers me the option to go into bios

[cyan ravine]

HOW MUCH HAVE YOU ORDERED MY DEAR FRIEND

[wide blaze]

when loading in

[covert crypt]

everything but the GPU

[cyan ravine]

Ok how much can you cancel

[earnest olive]

i physically recoiled at this LOL

[potent portal]

Mash delete or escape when the keyboard turns on

[obsidian wigeon]

omg

[earnest olive]

oh no...

[obsidian wigeon]

2.1k cad with no gpu

[covert crypt]

why whats wrong with it lol

[earnest olive]

you spent more on your pc with no gpu than i spent on my full 4080 build 😭

[cyan ravine]

If I told you I could get you virtually the same and save you hundreds

Would you be willing to work with me

[obsidian wigeon]

expensive mobo, and fans

[crimson zinc]

And ram

[covert crypt]

i mean im hoping not to upgrade for a while thats why i went overboard

[crimson zinc]

You didn’t need to

[cyan ravine]

There's nothing wrong with being overboard

It's being overboard but smarter

We'd get the same result

[earnest olive]

gotta go overboard in the right places

[crimson zinc]

^

[potent portal]

You could spend way less. That whole PC including the GPU should be 2k cad.

[cyan ravine]

Well, including the GPU is a stretch

But I can easily see a few hundred

Easily

You just have to trust me

[covert crypt]

also bought this https://www.amazon.ca/Thermalright-Controller-Support-Computer-Splitter/dp/B0989TTS3H/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=21GY7FWSJCKST&keywords=PWM+Fan+hub+pc+case&qid=1706410337&sprefix=pwm+fan+hub+pc+cas%2Caps%2C158&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

[cyan ravine]

That fan hub is fine

I am familiar with it

But the rest

We can improve

A lot

Give me a couple minutes

I will make a list that gives the exact same performance and a better aesthetic

And save you money

[wide blaze]

I put the docp

on

[covert crypt]

i mean i was gonna go silent wings 4 instead of noctua but someone told me noctua better just dont mind the ugly aesthetic cause its gonna be attached under my Secretlab Magnus desk like my current computer

[earnest olive]

felix did you buy a 4060ti

[potent portal]

Did it still boot to windows after? If yes then you should be all set

[wide blaze]

yes thank you

[potent portal]

Awesome

[cyan ravine]

Jesus I've saved way more than a couple hundred

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Cpvdt7

Add another mp44l if you want more space

I can go even cheaper than this for identical results

Omg I forgot to change psu

Hold on

[covert crypt]

oh i like my WD NVME i kinda saved a lot on those and the case i got it as a combo with PSU lol

my list isnt accurate of the amount on list

[cyan ravine]

How much is it in total

Like nvme's and the combo involved

I fixed the above list and swapped psu

I can go even cheaper and the performance would be identical

[potent portal]

The thing is the WD drives are so overkill, you can't possibly come close to using their full potential unless you're copying large files from one to the other (200GB+) or if you're doing 8K video editing

[cyan ravine]

Boop
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/zHgFpB

I can still go cheaper

[potent portal]

Here's what I ended up with https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LLTpWt

[covert crypt]

lets see..

Case + PSU COMBO
Corsair 4000D Airflow w/ Pre-installed RM850e Power Supply, Black $229.99 from $259.99 CAD

Storage:
WD Black SN850X 1TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 SSD - $119.99 from 214.99CAD
WD Black SN850X 2TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 SSD - $189.99 from 379.99CAD

Mobo + CPU COMBO
ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI 6E Socket AM5 + AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core/16-Thread - $808.99 from $998.99CAD

RAM:
G.SKILL Flare X Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop Memory Model F5-6000J3040G32GX2-FX5 - $284.97 CAD

Total: 1823.93

[potent portal]

You could add this to my list and you'd still be spending less than the original list showed https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/XPjNnQ/asrock-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-phantom-gaming-d-oc-video-card-rx6800xt-pgd-16go
Or a 7800 XT

[covert crypt]

what i really wanna save on is the Noctua Fans is there a better alternative to them that is just as good cause its 37.90CAD x 6

[cyan ravine]

Almost fit it all in under 2100

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/83pzGP

I'm down to 1254

[potent portal]

The absolute biggest money sink in your current parts is the motherboard. No motherboard should cost $800 unless you're doing liquid nitrogen overclocking or need server features.

[cyan ravine]

It still will perform the same, just no 64gb

Which is pointless for gaming anyway

[covert crypt]

its not $800 for MOBO, its MOBO + CPU total

[cyan ravine]

Yeah I'm up almost 600, those ssd's are terribly not worth it

[cyan ravine]

The mobo combo is not that bad

But not the best either

On a gaming x3d build it won't be better than an a620

Like at all lol

[potent portal]

That could be worse, but you won't be able to use half the X670E features anyway

[cyan ravine]

Pretty much

[covert crypt]

why's that? is it because its not supported? how can i utilize all the features

[potent portal]

X3D doesn't support overclocking

[cyan ravine]

Because this is a gaming pc ye?

[covert crypt]

gaming and video editing/photoshop

[cyan ravine]

X670E brings features for things absolutely unrelated to gaming

[potent portal]

And the idea of X670E is to have tons of PCIe lanes for large amounts of PCIe devices, like multiple video cards or 20 SSDs

[cyan ravine]

More i/o, more lanes

[cyan ravine]

Ironically it's cheaper to get 4 sticks of ram in CA

Instead of what we normally suggest, 2

[potent portal]

4 will be slower though

[obsidian wigeon]

ddr5-3600

[cyan ravine]

@covert crypt do you need wifi

[obsidian wigeon]

[potent portal]

Also having 64GB WILL sacrifice performance for capacity, the most you can go without losing speed is 48GB (2x24GB)

[covert crypt]

i use LAN cable, i just like always having the option to use wifi if i ever need to

[potent portal]

It's 4x16GB Corsair B die too

Cursed

[cyan ravine]

Guys

That's a different person

That was sebastian lol

[potent portal]

Yeah but it's still cursed

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

a620 has wifi boards as well

[covert crypt]

is this fan even good Thermalright TL-C12CW 66.17 CFM 120 mm Fan? i see its 8.99 each

if its just as good compared to Noctua then i can swap that

[potent portal]

They're decent. A little louder than noctua but that's like comparing a Corvette to a Ferrari

[obsidian wigeon]

you don't need noctua good but they're very good

[covert crypt]

its not gonna even be seen so i dont care for RGB even my current build is all black lol

it just hovers under my desk so im not gonna even see it

[potent portal]

Arctic P12 and P14 fans are usually good and good price if you can find them

Ah nvm, more expensive

Here ya go, 20 cad for 3 https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/JmfnTW/thermalright-tl-c12c-x3-6617-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-tl-c12c-x3-d6

[cyan ravine]

Still doing better
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/zpcGt7

[potent portal]

Got the build list itch today eh

[covert crypt]

ideally i like no RGB lol moved on from it a while ago xD wont be able to see it to enjoy

[cyan ravine]

That's a small change

[potent portal]

Same. What little RGB I do have at least is functional. They change color according to CPU and GPU temps.

[cyan ravine]

All gone
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pkM4wg

The fans are swap ins so all rgb gobe

Gone

Or alternatively turn it off

[covert crypt]

lol lots of swapping, but my main money sink is the MOBO rioght?

[cyan ravine]

Actually your main money sink was the noctuas

C12C's are barely any worse, and you can get 6 for the price of 1

[covert crypt]

gonna do a return on those and swap for those thermal takes i was annoyed it costed over 250after tax

gotta wait for amazon to deliver it and then do a return zz

[cyan ravine]

Ye I would

The ram was ok

The ssd's I'd swap both

If you must have fast perf, the mp44l is good, but we can get a little better

[potent portal]

Even with the deal you got, if you swap the SSDs to the MP44L you'll save 100 cad

And you'd never notice a difference in performance

[cyan ravine]

This would be better, far better than the two WD's
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HBKKxH

S70 blade stonks

The cooler you could stick with

Dual tower is fine

For $9 more that's negligible for definitely better

[potent portal]

The cooler is good for a future CPU upgrade, think of it that way

[cyan ravine]

The mobo I would swap for sure, but the combo I would say makes it not terrible

If you want a 4000D, I could go either way

[potent portal]

It's about as good as the top noctua cooler but half the price

[cyan ravine]

But the psu could definitely be swapped

Rmx shift is not worth it like ever

Lol

Great unit, even on a deal it's not good

[covert crypt]

oh its rm850e not shift that was added by accident

[cyan ravine]

Rm850e huh

[potent portal]

Ah RMe is good

[cyan ravine]

225 for both?

[potent portal]

But honestly even the RM750e would be enough with a 4090

[cyan ravine]

Hmmm 229 for both isn't bad

Can be a little better but 25 for aesthetics is fine

[covert crypt]

but black not white

[potent portal]

Ah yeah that's good

[cyan ravine]

So fans, def change, ssd def change

Case, psu, mobo, take or leave

Gpu go cheap, aim for a founders

Don't spend more than msrp+50-ish

Before tax obv

[potent portal]

Even if you just change the fans and SSDs that'll save you 300 cad

[cyan ravine]

Oh wait cad

[covert crypt]

CAD and 13% tax lol

[cyan ravine]

Fixed it lol

Ofc tax on top

[covert crypt]

$19.90

• $6.49 Shipping. An Import Fees Deposit may apply at checkout.

Thermalright TL-C12C X3 CPU Fan 120mm Case Cooler Fan

[cyan ravine]

Ram I could go either way, they have cheaper trident sticks tbh, and on x670e I'd be willing to try 4 sticks of 16gb

It can work

If you know what you're doing

I don't normally suggest it though

But in this case it's cheaper

[covert crypt]

i have 4 DDR4 G SKill Ripjaws 16gb and it caused my current PC problems and i had to remove two and it worked again

[cyan ravine]

Yes but ddr4 is different

[covert crypt]

unfortunate i cant use it on the new mobo

[cyan ravine]

Ddr4 is quad rank* at 4 sticks

Ddr5 is octa rank

It's much harder to run

They use similar memory controllers from the ddr4 days to run ddr5

Iirc sized down to 7nm process

It's quite easy to say it's just twice as hard to run

[covert crypt]

so MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard instead of the 670E?

[cyan ravine]

But it might be doable on the x670e

[potent portal]

The biggest change on DDR5 is moving the PMIC to the sticks themselves for better voltage regulation

[covert crypt]

gonna have to see if there is a combo lol

[cyan ravine]

If you want to save every dollar yeah, it's solid

Most b650's are great

Unless you need a LOT of storage for editing, like, way more than 3tb, I'd consider b650, or even a620

[potent portal]

4 sticks at 6000 might be tricky but can be done

[cyan ravine]

It's quite good on am5

[covert crypt]

no combo deal unfortunately

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1832&item_id=229136

[cyan ravine]

I could take or leave the mobo tbh

It looked bad at first but not as bad after I checked everything

If having extra lanes appeals to you for extra storage later, no harm in it

[covert crypt]

ya i like extra storage my current computer has 2 NVME + SSD + HDD

[cyan ravine]

But on the other hand, a620m pro rs wifi is cheap af

[potent portal]

Swapping the mobo to a mATX B650 could save you another 100 cad, or you can keep the X670E "just in case" you need it later by adding another handful of drives

[cyan ravine]

If you intend to use more than 2 ssd's I can see reason to x670e imo

But if you don't really intend to then I'd consider a lower tier board if possible

[covert crypt]

im most likely gonna end up with 4+ storage again all my past desktops

i had to add more

[cyan ravine]

Matx can look good in a 4000d

Imo anyway

[potent portal]

3 is about the limit for me, lots of B650s have 3, but 4 puts you right into $400+ territory

[cyan ravine]

Yeah but for video editing I am a bit swayed

[covert crypt]

i was initially going to for this but i needed more NVMe possibilities so i went with the tuf x670e cause i have option to add more

[cyan ravine]

Ok that board is just garbage tbh

[covert crypt]

it just looked nice

[cyan ravine]

Sorry to be rude lol

[potent portal]

bios is trash

[cyan ravine]

Yeah that's all that it has going for it

It's a asrock spinoff

But the problem isn't that

It's that it's really just some $150 asrock charging 320

[potent portal]

Gotta pay for that metal covering, all that thin aluminum has to cost $200 alone right?

[cyan ravine]

Gigabyte gotchu it's called gaming x

[potent portal]

But, but... that's not the premium aluminum

[covert crypt]

what was wrong with my current ram selection again? G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory

[cyan ravine]

Nothing really, just there was a cheaper trident z kit

I got lazy and kept picking the identical ripjaws lol

I think ultimately you'd have saved a couple hundred talking to us today tho lol

[cyan ravine]

Going back to this. Founders has the best pcb at msrp typically

But 4080S is worth it because of the msrp

[covert crypt]

ya much appreciated xD , this fan hub in the most unlikely of chances i go rgb it wont be supported on this right

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0989TTS3H/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[cyan ravine]

I'd stick to the closest to msrp as you can

That's the one you linked earlier right

[covert crypt]

ya

[cyan ravine]

That one's fine

I'm pretty sure some circles speak highly of it

The fans we sent you though

They daisy chain

So you may not need it

Daisy chain as in they all link together

Lol

[covert crypt]

i usually have this but sold out https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_136&item_id=123778

and ah ok

[covert crypt]

i was actually debating on buying a used 4070TI once the 4080 super comes out thinking it'll lower the prices and people will start selling it cheap and then buy the 5000 series when it comes out

[cyan ravine]

You could

For the right price

Nothing wrong with a 4070 Ti if you can find it for like

I wanna say

Sub 700 usd?

They wouldn't be that old

[covert crypt]

my bro got one for 900 CAD today lol for a few months of use apparently

[cyan ravine]

I wish I remembered the conversion rate

Lol

[covert crypt]

668.57 USD

[cyan ravine]

Yeah that's not too bad at all

4070 super is also considerable

If 4070 ti seems nice

[covert crypt]

ill be running the new computer without a gpu for a while think it can run League of legends just fine without a GPU, ill use my old computer until its gone soon for video editing/gaming

[cyan ravine]

Hmm

720m I wouldn't know

It might be ok for LoL

It's pretty weak tho

[obsidian wigeon]

it's ok for lol

[potent portal]

Turn on FSR

Render 720p

[obsidian wigeon]

turn on afmf

[potent portal]

Not sure that works on iGPU yet

[obsidian wigeon]

frame gen on LoL

[cyan ravine]

Does

FMF on radeon 700

[potent portal]

Oh good, I know that was the ultimate goal but I didn't know if the beta got that far yet

[covert crypt]

someone on reddit:

[obsidian wigeon]

i wouldn't bother

just run igp for a bit

grab a proper gpu

[cyan ravine]

If it's for a few days yeah I'd just wait for gpu

4080 super drops soon tho

[obsidian wigeon]

31st

[covert crypt]

last question...

my company covers 1K CAD for monitors, any recommendations? i was thinking of selling my two monitors and use a wide screen i heard i can use it to dual monitor as well?

Current monitors:
Monitor 1: GIGABYTE 27" 170Hz IPS 1440P KVM Gaming Monitor 0.5ms FreeSync Premium, 2560 x 1440 SS, 92% DCI P3, HDR Ready, 1x DisplayPort 1.2, 2x HDMI 2.0, 2x USB 3.0, 1x USB Type-C Height Adjustable M27Q
Monitor 2: AORUS CV27Q 27" Frameless Height Adjustable Curved 1500R Gaming Monitor, Quad HD 1440p, 90% DCI-P3 Color Accurate VA Panel, 1ms 165 Hz, HDR, FreeSync Premium Pro, VESA, Zero Bright Dot Policy

Was looking at:

Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 49" LS49AG952NNXZA 5120 x 1440 (2K) 240Hz 1ms (GTG) FreeSync Premium Pro G-Sync Compatible, DisplayPort HDMI, Height Adjust VESA Tilt Swivel Curved Gaming Monitor

[cyan ravine]

M27q is alright for a decent price

G9 non-neo is good

Neo has cracking problems

[obsidian wigeon]

them pirates cracking the monitors smh

[cyan ravine]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_700_1965&item_id=175090

[covert crypt]

thats my current monitor

[cyan ravine]

M27Q is good for video work

Alternatively

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/cRNxFT/lg-27gr95qe-b-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-27gr95qe-b

Or

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/wywypg/alienware-aw3423dwf-342-3440-x-1440-165-hz-curved-monitor-aw3423dwf

Those are decent

[covert crypt]

is it good for dual monitor gaming/editing?

in addition:
My bro said that a single ultra wide is not good for gaming as most games aren't optimized for wide screen and dual monitor on one monitor isnt as great compared to two actual monitors?

[cyan ravine]

He's not wrong

But on the other hand

You can just use the m27Q as a second screen

So you got options

It's really up to how you want to go crazy with it imo

The g9 neo has a dual screen feature that addresses the issue we're discussing but unfortunately again, cracking problems

Quite a fatal flaw

[covert crypt]

unfortunate 😦

[cyan ravine]

Vanilla g9 is good tho

[potent portal]

The G9 also definitely needs to be color calibrated, out of the box it's pretty bad. Once it's calibrated, it's very color accurate.

[cyan ravine]

QLED stonks

[potent portal]

Too bad about that edge lit tho

[cyan ravine]

My experience isn't that bad tbh

I wouldn't say it's terribly noticeable

Maybe panel to panel variation

I would definitely say it looks way better than an ips tho by a mile

[potent portal]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-g9#test_1381

[cyan ravine]

I believe you but I've also used a g9

And I have a g7 at home, same tech

[covert crypt]

no wonder when i looked at the store display it looked pretty awful .. the non neo version that is

well thanks for your assistance peeps 🙂 i look forward to my new PC

was going to ask about thermal paste but i think Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler already comes with one

[potent portal]

Yep

[manic cloak]

I hate how I wanna throw a AIO on a 7600 or even a 7500F

but it's such low wattage that a low profile could even cool it

[potent portal]

The stock cooler can even cool those

[manic cloak]

ik

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805706406548.html?

Opinions on this?

[potent portal]

Unnecessary unless you're using liquid metal

Even if thermal paste did manage to get under the IHS it won't hurt anything since it's non conductive

[crimson zinc]

@potent portal have a little challenge for you

If you’re up for it

[plucky timber]

did someone say challenge

[crimson zinc]

Yes I did @plucky timber

Would you like one

I actually have quite a unique one for you

[plucky timber]

pog

Sure

[crimson zinc]

Are you aware of the site “3dbenchmarks”?

[plucky timber]

nope

[crimson zinc]

Ah, it’s not free

I won’t make you do that

[plucky timber]

oof

[crimson zinc]

https://www.pcgamebenchmark.com/ratemypc

This instead

Get the lowest possible score.

[obsidian wigeon]

it says 2070 is only 127% faster than riva tnt 2

the heck is this site

[plucky timber]

More like 127000%

[obsidian wigeon]

and rx 580 58% faster

wtf

[plucky timber]

Userbenchmark derivative

[obsidian wigeon]

timeless gpu???

[mossy lion]

i was wondering if chat can help me with my build. This is my current build https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jrart4216/saved/6hgyFT . Chat told me a buy a monitor first before anything. which i did and this is the new monitor i use for gaming https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4Z8RFY9?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 . I was wondering what would be the next item to upgrade my build

[vivid copper]

List is set to private

[mossy lion]

sorry how about now https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jrart4216/saved/6hgyFT

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jrart4216/saved/6hgyFT

[vivid copper]

Still private

[mossy lion]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MRCZjH

[obsidian wigeon]

if you're just gaming, 5800x3d is a step up

and gpu upgrade maybe, if you want more fps at 1440p

[vivid copper]

Unless you're unhappy with your performance you don't need to upgrade anything. Enjoy your PC.

[obsidian wigeon]

but i agree with this one

if it's already good enough, enjoy it

[vivid copper]

Only thing i would do is get rid of those mixed ram kits and just get a solid 2x32 or 4x16 kit if you need that much ram....

[mossy lion]

what did you have in mind

[obsidian wigeon]

like a 4070 super?

[mossy lion]

i did want to change it any suggetions maybe something in white and rgb?

[mossy lion]

can you post a link?

[obsidian wigeon]

you should only buy one at 600 btw, which is the msrp

[cyan ravine]

You really have 48gb?

[mossy lion]

still don't know what that lol

[mossy lion]

yes...

[cyan ravine]

My better question is do you need 48gb or has 32 been ok

Cos just taking out 16gb would make the pc quicker

[mossy lion]

not sure i just always thought more ram was better...

[cyan ravine]

Not really

Even if you buy the same sku the chance of mixing sticks is really high

What I mean by that is

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HCkH99/gigabyte-windforce-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-gv-n407swf3oc-12gd

like this thing

[cyan ravine]

Mixing chips because brands use multiple suppliers

[obsidian wigeon]

or perhaps this

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hfjRsY/asus-dual-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-dual-rtx4070s-12g

[cyan ravine]

And no 2 different chips behave the same

4070 super is a decent suggestion

Also new psu, case, even ssd I would wager be a decent idea

[vivid copper]

If he does all that he might as well do a new build...lol...

[cyan ravine]

He's asking for suggestions

I'm not gonna pretend like these things don't deserve it

It's a question of what he wants to do

[obsidian wigeon]

4070s is only a bit behind 4070ti

for $200 less too

[cyan ravine]

Bbq psu, mixed ram and mid tower are all deserving of it

[obsidian wigeon]

oh the evga bbq

[mossy lion]

in all honesty i was planning on making another build because this chat has always mentioned that i spent to much on the build...

[cyan ravine]

You would get a fair bit for flipping the cpu board and ram tbh

Sell the 16gb kit separately

People like strix, it inflates the value for no reason other than it has strix in it

Like when people read the word "sport" on a car lmao

[mossy lion]

ok so one thing at a time what is the next part i should change then please?

[cyan ravine]

For me it would be solving your ram situation

Personally thinking running just 32gb might be enough for your needs

Then sell the 16gb kit

Then I'd consider psu or case

The NV1 is a mid ssd but if it works, it works. It could be an old one before they swapped the parts to be a terrible ssd

i.e really quite good

The 4070 super would be the next genuine upgrade after that

A 5900x should be fine with that at 1440p

I say the same about the psu btw, if it works, it works. But I'd consider swapping it out in the future

[mossy lion]

should i also change the ram i have or should i just keep the 2x16?

[cyan ravine]

I would stick to 2x16

But that's said

Provided it's enough for you

You mention "chat" a lot

So I'm guessing you stream, edit, and all that

There could be a valid requisite there to have more if you find 32gb isn't enough (You'd know quite easily)

[mossy lion]

so the current 2x16 i have is good, or should i buy a new one?

2x16

[cyan ravine]

Current is good

[mossy lion]

no here in discord

[cyan ravine]

Ah

Well 32gb is probably enough then if it's just discord streaming

Depends on the game though a bit

Like tarkov for example eats 32gb

But 32gb is typically more than enough for a vast majority of things

[crimson zinc]

I have 48 cuz I plan on doing a lot of heavy duty stuff with modeling

[mossy lion]

Well typical games I play are turn based, wow, pal word, and war frame I find myself gaming the most

[cyan ravine]

Those sound fine

Reason I'm not listing 64gb is ddr4 is outgoing

If you need more, I'd flip the am4 mobo, ram and cpu

Then go to a new platform with ram that can carry over

Give me a sec, I'll make a list

Things that could be healthy suggestions

You can compartmentalise it and take from it what you think may help

[mossy lion]

So if I wanted to change my 2x16 to white and one that has rgb would say that's a yea or naw?

[cyan ravine]

Nah

Not for ddr4 imo

[vivid copper]

Then do that...you don't have to ask for anyone's permission to do so...you're looking for validation not suggestions...rememeber it's your build do what you want to make yourself happy b....

if you're okay with your parts then you're good...don't feel the need to upgrade because somebody told you, you should

[mossy lion]

I was asking for more if it's a good idea or not before I go searching something that might not be good for my build 😁

[vivid copper]

That's subjective tho....what do you think?

Do you think it's a good idea?

[mossy lion]

Not sure I am new to building pc this is my first build so if there is a way to improve I'll take any advice

If anything I wanted to change it for the since of the rgb and I wanted to have a white build

[vivid copper]

Let's put it like this...there is always something to improve or upgrade...it literally will be a never ending cycle

new hardware is constantly coming out...you will never have the latest or newest or best parts

[cyan ravine]

@mossy lion https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bW7sPF

Pick from this any of the things we suggested

But remember cpu mobo and ram all go together

You can also do the 32gb version of the ram, I believe that one is near $100

I'd start by just taking out the 16gb kit tho from what you have first

That will make the pc faster alone

[mossy lion]

Can you explain what you mean by faster?

[cyan ravine]

Mixed sticks no longer a factor

Your pc will be literally snappier

[mossy lion]

So you mean I can't change one part but instead I need to change all three at once?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

If you do one, all 3 need to be done on just those

If you're still not clear on the ram thing I can explain a bit deeper

[mossy lion]

Please 😁

[cyan ravine]

So ram is sold in this case by OLOy

But oloy itself, supplies from several manufacturers

To apply the ram chips, to each ram stick

Those ram chips work to completely different pcb schematics (the stick itself) and run under different favourable conditions on each motherboard

Think of it like

Apple juice, orange juice, pineapple juice etc

They're all juice

All nice

But all different flavours

From completely different circumstances

[vivid copper]

then grab some rgb ram, sell and get rid of the two unmatched kits you have and go back to gaming....like i said you'll always be trying to get new stuff if you come back and keep asking what more can i do.....the only time you need to upgrade is when you're not getting the performance you want....but i'll leave you to it....that's your ram.....https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fkBG3C/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-tf4d432g3200hc16fdc01

[cyan ravine]

DDR4 famously has a reputation at the 3200MHz mark of selling most of any chips at that speed. And Oloy has many suppliers

Corsair vengeance is particularly bad at this

Sometimes with a lone kit having chips from two different suppliers

When these chips mix, they require different, parameters to run on a motherboard

[mossy lion]

Thank you for the advice 😁

[vivid copper]

no problem b...good luck

[cyan ravine]

Or in this case we call it timings

Ram can be very finicky

If the timings aren't a good match, the board will use slower timings until it does match

Bit like gears inside a clock

So when you mix ram together

From different manufacturers

The board can potentially run it, but it will stretch to wider timings to make both work

And the result from this is, the wider timings are much slower

This can also lead to things like windows instability, blue screens, dying windows installs

World's your oyster really on that one

By taking out the two 16gb sticks, it allows the ram that remains in there, to train much faster

They refresh and cycle faster, and can make the system wayyy more stable

Mixing kits is generally considered just a bad idea from the implications

[mossy lion]

Ok this makes more sense

[cyan ravine]

There's a chance that's not zero but close to zero, that both kits in there are identical just in different capacities

But it's so rare I've never seen it, like ever

[mossy lion]

So basically I am spreading the resource from my PC to thin which is causing my PC to work more then it should

[cyan ravine]

Unless the person knows how to match them, never by chance

[cyan ravine]

A little bit? It's more like the pc has an injured foot so it can't run as fast

Even though it has the better ability

[mossy lion]

Ok got it

[cyan ravine]

And I really would opt against buying new ddr4

At the very most get a used white kit, if that's an imperative

And sell what you have rn

Ddr4 is getting old now, no point putting new investment into it

[obsidian wigeon]

sell and upgrade

the most logical way to it

[cyan ravine]

Like I'd have a bit of a different take if this was a brand new pc and it was entry tier

But not really for an existing pc imo

[obsidian wigeon]

the gpu itself is still worth quite a bit on ebay too

at least 300 bucks

[mossy lion]

So just for the since of asking then if I ever wanted to have more ram in a build its always best to buy sticks that are in the same package. Example 4x8 right?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Always better

Or 2 packages from the same place at the same time

[mossy lion]

umm does it make a difference if i don't have the box i bought it in...

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[cyan ravine]

Not really

[obsidian wigeon]

doesn't matter as long as the gpu is in good condition

[mossy lion]

so never online then?

[cyan ravine]

Online counts

[obsidian wigeon]

offline would be easiest to match, but online works too

[cyan ravine]

If you bought 2 lots of 2x16 off amazon from the same article at the exact same time, it counts

[obsidian wigeon]

only offline option i recc is if you're close to a micro center

[cyan ravine]

Very very low chance it's a different batch

I would definitely say 4x16 is easily the safer bet tho

But 2x 2x16 would have a pretty good chance of matching as well

Just as long as it was purchased the same time

[mossy lion]

ok makes sense

so aside from the removing the ram what would be next?

[cyan ravine]

I'd be picking between psu and case personally

[mossy lion]

does it matter which one?

[cyan ravine]

Not... particularly?

Maybe a bit more urge for psu

But both would be good QoL changes

[mossy lion]

sure i will do that next 🙂

thank you for help

[cyan ravine]

All good

You can reuse that psu btw, but I'd do that for something more low end

[mossy lion]

well to be honest i do want to run a dual pc set up

[cyan ravine]

Say an igpu build, maybe arc a580 build, 6600xt maybe

[mossy lion]

should i just save it then?

[cyan ravine]

Hey there you go, arc a580 encoder build might be nice

I would yeah

Used psu's especially the meh ones don't sell for a lot

Only the really good ones

Like, rmx, ax, g6, gf1 etc

[mossy lion]

should it wouldn't be wise to reuse my old pc parts from this build for my second one then?

[cyan ravine]

No it would be quite a decent idea tbh

There is real merit to running dual pc for streaming, just more of a question of how valuable that would be to you

Like if you're very much capable of doing what you can rn, and it won't feel like an enormous upgrade, then maybe not

It does boil down to objectivity

A half decent laptop can be quite useful for this role instead, for example

[mossy lion]

well what if i told i have never stream yet so i am not sure...

[cyan ravine]

Ah

Well I'd wait until you've started first

[mossy lion]

but i do like the idea of dual pc step u, and that is something would like to get done before i start

[cyan ravine]

All down to you at the end of the day

I would wait until I got my groove first tho

You might find you need something else first

Like for example, a touch deck

Better mic

Green screen

Ambient lighting

Software licenses

Etc etc

All these little things can make a big difference

Camera

Anyway

That's a topic for another day, I gotta get going

Hopefully this was useful

[mossy lion]

so i have a pretty decent mic. With a sound mixer, and xlr cable, and nexigo webcam

ok thank you for your help 🙂

[cyan ravine]

No worries

[jagged ember]

I'd say you can start off trying to stream on the same PC you're playing the game on

If you're totally fine with that for now, maybe you won't need to spend extra on the second pc just yet

[stable cove]

So there’s something I should told you all a bit ago. I’ve had all this saved money in my safe for a while now. Like since Felix got me down to a $2,000 pc price there should still be at least $12,000 left in there after I buy my computer. So if you’re wondering why I’m not the most concerned about money then that’s why. My pc should last at least 5 years and whenever I’ll need to buy another one I’ll be long ready. Especially if it doesn’t cost that much

I’ve been holding onto that money since 2019

[dusky hearth]

there's no such thing as futureproofing in pc hardware, but 5 years is fairly easily doable

also why do you keep that amount of money in a safe and not a bank or investing it lmao

the value of that money will just continue to fall

but usually you dont just buy a computer and leave it for 5 years, you normally upgrade x part after like 2 years or whatever, or until you need some better hardware

and then once you upgrade to the point that your cpu doesnt keep up, or such, then you upgrade the whole system

[analog hearth]

it's probably possible to buy a whole setup at the beginning of a new generation for consoles and have it last until the end of said console generation (including the cost of the computer)

[dusky hearth]

yeah

[analog hearth]

theoretically

[dusky hearth]

most servers are put into service and retired after 10 years

gaming is slightly different, and you probably want to upgrade your gpu once every few years or so, so that you can keep up with modern games, but if you're fine with lowering some settings for more newer games, even at 1080ti is still capable

hell, some people even play vr with a 1060 even though it's absolute 💩

[analog hearth]

it's crazy to me that some people still use a 1060 despite it being released in 2016 lol

[mossy venture]

This pc will easily last you five years. That's exactly why you're better off with a heatsink

An aio is much less likely to last you 5 years, and unless something kills your pc like a power surge or something being faulty, it will easily last 5 years and beyond

[stable cove]

Upgrading a single part will only cost a few hundred dollars except maybe the graphics card

[dusky hearth]

well

some parts are cheaper, some are more

[stable cove]

In 2 years I’ll definitely be ready to buy a new part

[dusky hearth]

if you stick with only mid-high end (not top of the line) then it's going to remain around $700-800 ish for the gpus

ram upgrade may be more like $100-200 ish

i would probably upgrade the parts only as required or 3 years + for gpu

[stable cove]

Well people said 4090 was the best gpu on the market and 4080 is right next to that I shouldn’t have to change it for a while should still be an excellent graphics card

[dusky hearth]

3090 was the best gpu on the market just a bit over a year ago though lmao

now it's just a high end card basically

and yeah, like bacca said, if you want to have a reliable pc, use an air cooler, aios have more points of failure

servers are almost always air cooled

[weak flint]

GeForce 256 was the bet gpu on the market just abit over 24 years ago though lmao

[dusky hearth]

real

[stable cove]

24 years ago was before I was born I’m only 21. But gonna be 22 in June

[weak flint]

oh nice im gonna be 54 soon too!

[stable cove]

Ok so we got people in here who are much older

[weak flint]

woops wrong chat shouldnt continue before i get ban lol

[dusky hearth]

honestly i think the majority of active members here are in their 20's-30's

[mossy venture]

Ram won't need to be upgraded likely, it's gauranteed hynix they could easily do 6400c28-30-30-68

Well if the cpu will handle it

[stable cove]

And about that investing might not be a bad idea but I’ve heard markets can always crash so that’s a serious responsibility. And savings accounts a bank normally only draw one penny a month so the interest is just pathetic. That’s work I’ll have to do outside the server. Pretty irrelevant here

[dusky hearth]

true

[dusky hearth]

hedge funds have less risk, and normally you would have a diverse portfolio, though yes do your own research for risk/reward analysis
also savings accounts are more than just a penny/m if you put all 14k into it

sure, it wont be much more

probably more like 8 cents a month or smth

[stable cove]

I should be good with rtx 4080 for a while. Felix got me a fairly cheap pc for one of the best cards in the market and performance should be absolutely amazing

The graphics in vr might look a dozen times better than they did on my meta quest and through my Dell computer

I should’ve ditched that thing long ago

[tawny violet]

As I already said

If you can afford to, wait until the 4080 Super is out

it's significantly cheaper for about the same performance (supposedly)

[analog hearth]

I second this. The 4080 Super releases January 31st. Just wait lol that's like three more days from now

[vale birch]

Hello channel, I'm hoping someone has advice for this. I recently purchased a Lenovo Legion T5 AMD Ryzen 9 7900 w Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti. It's been pretty good so far but looking to get some extra vram. Is it possible to purchase a second vcard (let's say a 3090 24GB and use them in combination? If so, what's the best way to go about this?

[mossy venture]

What do you use the pc for?

And you would likely need a new power supply

[tawny violet]

VRAM is specific to your graphics card
You'd need to entirely replace the 4070 Ti
I think you should probably just keep that 4070 Ti and wait for 5000 series
Or potentially get something like a 7900 XTX if you really wanna upgrade

But like those are also like 900 USD so

It'd be a costly upgrade

[frosty roost]

Looking for a build that will PUMP this game, https://store.steampowered.com/app/2429640/THRONE_AND_LIBERTY/

Steam

THRONE AND LIBERTY

Welcome to THRONE AND LIBERTY, a free-to-play MMORPG that takes place in the vast open world of Solisium. You can scale expansive mountain ranges for new vantage points, scan open skies, traverse sprawling plains, explore a land full of depth and opportunity. Adapt your fight to survive and thrive through strategic decisions in PvP, PvE or both ...

Release Date

Coming soon

▶ Play video

[tawny violet]

Do you mind getting used parts to save on cost?

Cuz if you don't

[manic cloak]

Ngl

I think FMFR is a bust with Fortnite

[tawny violet]

Cuz that's not a very demanding game you wanna play so

You don't need something insane

[tawny violet]

Isn't that AMD frame gen?

[manic cloak]

the fluid motion thing they announced ya

I got the beta drivers for it

[tawny violet]

Honestly frame gen is a bust for competitive games as a whole

[manic cloak]

Techincally it works with Direct 11 but.. It's only for the little overlay stats

[tawny violet]

Just why bother?

[manic cloak]

fr

[frosty roost]

Budget or brand new any which way works

[manic cloak]

Cause Fortnite as "Performance" aka chapter 1 very original graphics, direct 11 and direct 12.

[tawny violet]

Besides with a 7800 XT you'd never need frame gen for comp gaming

[manic cloak]

The frame gen doesn't affect the game

only the "statistics"

[frosty roost]

But before you go on making something here are my current 2 rigs

[tawny violet]

Do you plan to play anything else or only that particular game?

What resolution do you wanna play it at?

[frosty roost]

@tawny violethttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/sYGdt7 X-99 DELUXE

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G6fyJf z170-A

[mossy venture]

Budget?

[frosty roost]

So I have a LG widescreen

Those two are my current builds

[tawny violet]

I mean the rec is a 1660 Ti

[frosty roost]

If i could upgrade either LMK

[tawny violet]

It's really not a demanding game

Nevermind

[mossy venture]

I mean

[tawny violet]

I was wrong

[mossy venture]

It's pretty demanding

[tawny violet]

That's the min spec

[mossy venture]

Ye

[tawny violet]

My bad

I did a stoopid

[mossy venture]

I would keep ssd from first and psu from second

[mossy venture]

No you're good

[tawny violet]

Hm 2070 as recommended
I guess a 6750 XT would be really good with a 7600 and 32gb 5600 CL32

[mossy venture]

What is your budget to spend?

[tawny violet]

But I'd have to check the other 2 rigs to see what's worth salvaging

[mossy venture]

Imo only the rmx and the ssd in the first one

[tawny violet]

And yeah budget determines a lot

[mossy venture]

Possibly the cooler from one

[frosty roost]

So budget for a new one 1500$

[tawny violet]

Oh and where do you live

That's pretty important

[mossy venture]

Alright, few min

[tawny violet]

Cuz markets are different

[frosty roost]

Basically any you suggest if i could upgrade me current 2

us dollar currency

[mossy venture]

Wifi or ethernet?

[manic cloak]

performance "rn" for Fortnite yet i'm only rocking with barely 144 frames on all epic on 1440p

[mossy venture]

And you in the US?

[frosty roost]

Ethernet

Yea

[mossy venture]

Got a microcenter nearby?

[frosty roost]

i think they just made one

[tawny violet]

@mossy venture you think this would work for 1500?

[mossy venture]

1500 I'd do a better gpu

[tawny violet]

Eh

Doesn't have to spend all of it

But fair enough

[mossy venture]

Check if they have the 7800x3d bundle for 500

[tawny violet]

You can probs fit a 6800 XT into that cost

With the 7800X3D

And it'd be a better experience

[frosty roost]

PC Parts me a build if you all could, most welcome!

[tawny violet]

We're trying to play off of Micro Center being based and stocking a cheap 7800X3D bundle

Which you can't really PCPartPicker sadly

Check their website if the bundle is available

[frosty roost]

I usually search onto newegg so its all good

[mossy venture]

Without microcenter, I would do this with your ssd and rmx 850 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/48NB7R

[tawny violet]

Ya don't have to lock yourself to one store

[frosty roost]

Ok thanks for ur help

If you would chose a more less expensive video card which one?

[mossy venture]

And with microcetner
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rWhY89

[mossy venture]

7800xt

[tawny violet]

You can go 6800 XT even (if you can find one in stock)

Depending on price it can be better value

[mossy venture]

For a cheaper build I would say
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WhHnMV

[frosty roost]

Great thanks!

@mossy venture could you let me know which M.2 DRIVE and power supply for this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/48NB7R

[mossy venture]

The rmx 850 you already have for psu

And the ssd in this list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sYGdt7

You could also contact the cooler manufacturer and get an am5 mounting bracket

That cooler would be fine

[frosty roost]

Well you see i have those on display

[mossy venture]

?

[frosty roost]

So I talked it over and i may not disasemble them

[mossy venture]

Ah

Ok one min

How would you feel about swapping the psu in that build and using that one for this build?

[frosty roost]

A new one would be fine

no worries

I might as well

[mossy venture]

If you did swap it out, this would be fine
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bVD7YJ/asus-tuf-gaming-b-450-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-450b

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DKzHbL

Ssd and a good 850w in that list, if you decide not to swap the other psu out

[frosty roost]

Cool thanks

Ill go the route

@mossy ventureHey Bacca sorry to bother you again but with those 2 builds i gave you not a simple Graphics card upgrade would run that game without issues?

Thanks for you help again

[mossy venture]

It would likely run but I doubt well. Look up a YouTube video of either of those cpus with say a 6700xt in the games you're trying to run

If it seems satisfactory, then go for it

Overall a cheap new build would be better imo, even less than the cheap list I linked earlier

[frosty roost]

Well if you have the time, let me know im a noob at building CPUS a friend is helping me as well

I will reference this info to him

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xCNB7R

[frosty roost]

Great ill check that out

Thanks for ur help bud your great

[mossy venture]

Anytime, and feel free to ping me if you have any other questions

A used gpu is also a great option

You could likely find a 6700xt/3060 ti around 260 or less, and around 150-200 something 20 series 2070 super or better, or 6600xt/6650xt

[frosty roost]

@mossy venturehttps://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-7600-gv-r76gaming-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932621?Item=N82E16814932621&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com--PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com--PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-HUD3Q5GHZMWFcHe1c1hqIQ This has raytracing right

opps

long link

[mossy venture]

It can do ray tracing but I wouldn't really recommend it

[frosty roost]

I see, alright just checking

[mossy venture]

If you want rtx I wouldnt go for anything less than a 4070 honestly

[frosty roost]

right ill compare

[mossy venture]

Ray tracing especially on 30 series and earlier, and any amd gpus currently, is not a very pleasant experience

[frosty roost]

RTX is amazing

[mossy venture]

7000 series is at about where 30 series was for Ray tracing, which is a big step up from 6000 series and it will keep improving, just right now it tanks fps

[mossy venture]

From what I've experienced it's mediocre most of the time. Some games it's implemented well, but for the most part it just tanks your frames without making much of a visual difference

[cyan ravine]

4080 super releases in 2 days. Better card for less money.

Wait for it.

[frosty roost]

Ok

[gentle pollen]

I am trying to reinstall windows on my PC. I forgot how to wipe my boot drive from bios. Can someone help me? Thank you in advance!

[stable cove]

Alright I’ll wait.

[stable cove]

Just message me a new build when it releases. I don’t wanna pick a wrong unfitting pc part again.

[potent portal]

You shouldn't need to wipe it from bios, but some boards have a "secure erase SSD" function.
Normally you can just delete the partitions from the Windows installer.

[gentle pollen]

Just found out when I watched a video. Currently my issue is I am not getting to the windows install so I changed boot priority

Oh wait, is the Win11 download I installed onto my USB a one time use?

[tawny violet]

Installed?

[gentle pollen]

?

[potent portal]

No it's not one time use

You might need to reset secure boot to setup mode

[gentle pollen]

Where do I find that?

[potent portal]

It's normally under something like "windows 8 settings"

Disable secure boot, restart, enable

[gentle pollen]

I do it from within windows?

[potent portal]

No bios

If your motherboard has a search you can use that

[gentle pollen]

It does.

What are other names it might go by?

[potent portal]

Secure boot is the only name I know for it

[gentle pollen]

I found secure boot outside of search window but it has no enable or disable option.

[potent portal]

Then it's probably just a status page and the actual setting is elsewhere

[gentle pollen]

It should be with boot settings shouldn't it?

Could it be called Bootup NumLock State?

[potent portal]

No and no

It'll be under some advanced settings menu

Alternatively you can clear your CMOS and it should wipe the secure boot too

[gentle pollen]

Will do that

[potent portal]

It'll undo your overclock though

[gentle pollen]

That's fine.

My goal right now is to simply get my PC stable without any issues with curseforge and such.

Once that's resolved I can always redo my oc or whatever

What is fTPM?

Ahhh my boot priorities aren't detecting my boot drive?

[potent portal]

Firmware Trusted Platform Module
You don't need to worry about it right now

[stable cove]

Is rtx really bad?

Because that’s what I’m focused on