building-and-recc-chat

[cyan ravine]

CL36 too

Massive pass

32 or less, or CL46 from a specific t-create kit

5600 CL46

Not the micron one

Good luck with it, try not to spend more than a handful lol

[lunar bone]

Found this kit

https://oreol.eu/kompyuternaya-tehnika/kompyuternye-komponenty/operativnaya-pamyat/gskill-trident-z5-rgb-ddr5-32-gb-6000mhz-cl30-f5-6000j3040f16gx2-tz5rs

[stable cove]

Hopefully I find a good case and motherboard for my pc. All the other pc parts shouldn’t be too difficult to pick. Think Z790 is a pretty good motherboard

[timber stump]

So after a while of being on I get this noise

[mossy venture]

Z790 doesn't mean much

There's good and there's bad ones

For most people, a b760 around $130-160 is a much better choice

[dusky hearth]

that just sounds like a fan hitting a cable lmao

[tawny violet]

That'd be based

my pick for a mod would probably be the Enterprise trying to flee while hit by Borg fire (so the Enterprise is held up in the air)
Kinda sad it costs as much as a 6800 XT here, BEFORE shipping...

[timber stump]

Why it only does it have a while but not immediately? I don’t see anything hitting a fan

[dusky hearth]

if the fans arent spinning (e.g. fan curve has the fan speed set to not run unti x temperature) then the fan wouldnt spin and hit something

it could also be scraping on the case or smth

though the sound is more of a hit

[tawny violet]

HOLY HECK

SHIPPING THAT BORG CUBE COSTS MORE FOR ME THAN THE CASE ITSELF

650 bucks for shipping while the case itself only costs 600

having a fully built one (with shipping) is literally Tier 1 SI money

5100 dollars

Sheesh

[covert vapor]

Gonna ship it to you in a space ship

[tawny violet]

Deadass

I mean
It's really cool

380mm cubed

[gentle pollen]

To all the masters of cable management here, what are your tips on making cables look less messy, my biggest issue right now is that my cables have a large variance in length?

I am already using Velcro and zip ties to tidy it up a bit.

[cyan ravine]

Pretty much

More velcro if you want more better

[high field]

Should I return my 4080 and get the 4080 super

[cyan ravine]

Or consider full psu cable replacements to go even further

[cyan ravine]

When did you buy it

[tawny violet]

Can't remember whether the 4080 super is actually gonna be cheaper or not

[cyan ravine]

Is

999 msrp

So chances are the 4080 bought here is more expensive

[high field]

Bought it in November but today is my last day to return it

[high field]

If u look at Best Buy they are already coming out with prices for some 4080 supers

[cyan ravine]

How much before tax

[high field]

I got it for 1,059.99

[cyan ravine]

Mmmm

Ima be real here

Everyone and their dog will be after those nvidia cards

It's a serious improvement over their entire offering

1059 is not that bad

Yes the 4080S will be better, but more of a point of "can you manage to get one?" is where I'm getting at here

It's been a while since I've seen people hyped for gpus like this

[tawny violet]

Yeah I'd keep it

Better a cod today than a pike 3 months from now

[crimson zinc]

[high field]

But tbh with u I feel like I could get one because I’ve got gpu on lunch all the time

[cyan ravine]

Well said

[cyan ravine]

I mean if you're confident go for it

Just my two cents really

[pseudo pollen]

if not, just get something different on release date

[cyan ravine]

I know those super cards will sell out fast

[pseudo pollen]

doubt it imo

[tawny violet]

I think they might

Lots of people didn't get 4000 series non-90s

[pseudo pollen]

There'll be more people than the original 4000 series launch, but not sell out amounts

I was considering a 4070ti super, but I realized that I barely use this 3070 that I have

4070ti super would be overkill

[crimson zinc]

Don’t rely on past experiences

Just remember that you’re not the only one buying

[cyan ravine]

I have not seen people talk as much about cards like this since like

Ampere

[cyan ravine]

That's fine

Sorry late reply

[lunar bone]

Haha no problem

Already saved up more than half the PC price and will be ordering half of the parts very soon.

Just a lil update

[cyan ravine]

Nice

[crimson zinc]

Which is better for friend

[cyan ravine]

I swear there's cheaper

[crimson zinc]

She wants one of those and refuses to listen to me

[cyan ravine]

There is

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/s8vD4D/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-rgb-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-su032gxlwu60afdhsw

That^

[crimson zinc]

I guess I’m gonna have to argue with her that she’s wrong
Thank you Felix

[cyan ravine]

Don't guilt trip me like that wth

LOL

Always pick the cheaper one

[crimson zinc]

I’m not lmao
Making a diss at her that she’s stubborn

Sorry, I don’t word things very well on account of the autism

[cyan ravine]

I'm not offended

Don't worry

But like

They're all 3 the same underneath

Except there's a clear price difference

[cursive wharf]

RGB component are bad and overpriced. RGB fans/strips give the same effect and can be controlled with one program. With components, you either run 5 separate programs or try to use SignalRGB/OpenRGB which isnt guaranteed to work with all components. You also have more control over what happens when no software is running, as a lot of the time it just defaults to fast RGB vomit which is pretty unsightly.

[crimson zinc]

Okay, then what about her storage?
She has a teamgroup 1tb
Anything I can do to get her up to 2tb?

[cyan ravine]

Second teamgroup 1tb

Or if all new, change to a 2tb teamgroup

[crimson zinc]

My build has just fans and peripheral RGB
I don’t waste moneys anymore on RGB

[cyan ravine]

(yes I can be vague here, the teamgroups are all cheap)

[cursive wharf]

Ye, but try to tell your friend what I said

[crimson zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/barack-obama-finger-point-finger-pointing-pointing-gotcha-gif-4809228

[cursive wharf]

As in she bought one, or plans to buy one?

[crimson zinc]

Plans to

I’ve been helping all morning with just finding a proper case and gpu

[cursive wharf]

2tb Mushkin Tempest or 2tb Team MP33 then. Tempest is a bit cheaper rn in the US.

[crimson zinc]

Good catch

[cyan ravine]

There's also 2tb mp44L if she must have a good one

For like a few $ more

[crimson zinc]

I didn’t know intel had its hand in GPUS

[dusky hearth]

fold the longer cable if it's significantly longer

[crimson zinc]

@cyan ravine what’s a decent monitor that could accommodate a 4090 level of display? Nothing too pricy, but just enough to get by.

[dusky hearth]

Kinda like this (my multimeter cables were the only thing near me that I could show an example of even though they're the same length lmao)

You cable tie the fold together and boom it's shorter

You would want to do it in the "basement" of course

[crimson zinc]

I’ve seen AW3423DW recommended a bunch of times.

And the Acer Predator X27U bmiipruzx as a cheap one

[modest kraken]

https://pcbuilder.net/rigs/MZS540/
pls someone give me feedback on this i have about 1,700 to spend and its my first time building a pc

[cyan ravine]

4K 120 or 4K 144

M32U, FV43U, LG C3, odyssey G9/G8

There's not really a good overall 1440p option imo

Waiting for a good woled 1440p UW to show up

[mossy venture]

Are you in the us

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xqNhGP if you want it cheaper switch the gpu to 4070 ti

Ah you need monitor too

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4FCX34

[cyan ravine]

@modest kraken boop
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y3s4Jy

Oh monitor? Ah

[modest kraken]

uk but 1700 usd bc i need other stuff

[modest kraken]

why micro atx?

rather balance it out not super gpu heavy

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9dvyQP

Added monitor

[cyan ravine]

It's sff, no real reason for it

[modest kraken]

i like this but do i need a cpu cooler or is stock ok

no overclocking still

also why 2x16gb ram

[cyan ravine]

Are you buying this in the uk

[modest kraken]

yeah

[mossy venture]

Do you need wifi

Also matx and gpu weight has absolutely nothing to do with eachother

[modest kraken]

i have ethernet availible

[mossy venture]

Not including monitor, 1300 gpb
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/B8yP9c

If that's too much lmk, I'll do a cheaper list

Any questions ask

[cyan ravine]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/D8mTt7

[mossy venture]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/yxytt6/lian-li-lancool-205m-mesh-microatx-mini-tower-case-g99oe744mx10am
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/y2mNnQ/cooler-master-masterbox-td500-mesh-v2-atx-mid-tower-case-td500v2-kgnn-s00
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZnrRsY/cooler-master-td300-mesh-microatx-mini-tower-case-td300-kgnn-s00
Some other case options too, whatever you like best

[cyan ravine]

Where air 100

[mossy venture]

Oh I forgot ram in my list

[cyan ravine]

Forgot monitor too

[mossy venture]

I saw you linked it in your list so I didnt

[cyan ravine]

Oh okie

[mossy venture]

Also I'm not a huge fan of air 100, less gpu clearance than a lot of the other good cases around the price so have to be more careful when upgrading gpu

Unless I'm thinking of the x3

[cyan ravine]

Wym

5 slots clearance

Lol

Yeah maybe a noctua 4080 but that's really it

[cyan ravine]

X3 is atx

I'm not really sure which one

[mossy venture]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8pRP9c

[cyan ravine]

Nova m?

Nova m is like 4 slot iirc

[mossy venture]

I remember one of them has issues with some of the cheaper xtx/7800xts

[cyan ravine]

Nani tf

Oh you mean length??

[mossy venture]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

Oh then yes air 100

[modest kraken]

i ment gpu heavy on cost

cattch me up sorry i went afk for a se

sec

[mossy venture]

This is what id do

[cyan ravine]

What's the pc being used for

[modest kraken]

gaming/work

so balanced gpu/cppu

[cyan ravine]

What kind of work

[mossy venture]

Since 1700 usd is about 1330 gpb

[modest kraken]

school work

[cyan ravine]

Gpu heavy is fine

[mossy venture]

What school work

[modest kraken]

uni work

[mossy venture]

Is it simple stuff

Or is it coding, game dev, software design, cad, heavy stuff like that

[modest kraken]

lets say heavier work

[mossy venture]

Like what

[modest kraken]

economics

[cyan ravine]

Like...

Graphs??

[mossy venture]

Some heavier work is gpu heavy, and some is cpu heavy

[cyan ravine]

Excel??

[modest kraken]

not sure exactly

balanced

[cyan ravine]

If it's anything like stock trading, an igpu is more than enough

[modest kraken]

yeah i would say that

but give some more flexability

[cyan ravine]

And any half decent cpu from like the last 5 years

[modest kraken]

if something arises

[mossy venture]

7600 is plenty from what it sounds like

[modest kraken]

photoshop

design

[cyan ravine]

Photoshop is light

[modest kraken]

ok idk

@quartz oar

speak

[mossy venture]

If you want better multi core performance, I guess this, sacrificing around 8% gaming/single core performance and you lose out on upgradability
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gg4fDZ

[modest kraken]

what u want it for

[quartz oar]

what’s happening

[quartz oar]

all of them

[modest kraken]

its for this guy not me

but im helping him

[quartz oar]

yep

[cyan ravine]

What kind of degree u doin

[quartz oar]

the main use is gaming tho

idc about the rest

[quartz oar]

i’m not in uni

[cyan ravine]

So it's just, whatever then

[quartz oar]

hold on

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[mossy venture]

Then this list, or the one felix linked

Or a mix thereof

[quartz oar]

restart, i didn’t mean idc but the main is gaming and then the other things like cad, etc on the side

just so it can run it all at a decent level

[cyan ravine]

This pc would run anything decent it's more a question of the bias tbh

[mossy venture]

Hold up

[cyan ravine]

But it sounds like what we have is fine

[mossy venture]

Is this the same list leebrenner was asking for

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[mossy venture]

Or is this a whole separate list

[cyan ravine]

He was asking for a guy

[mossy venture]

Ok

I thought so but it also seemed like they both were asking for separate lists

[cyan ravine]

Question @quartz oar

1330 budget

Or 1700 budget

Gbp

[modest kraken]

he also needs keyboard mouse so leave some room for that

[cyan ravine]

Lol

Need to confirm the budget here in pounds first

[modest kraken]

yeah 1700 pounds @quartz oar

rightt?

[quartz oar]

yes

about 1500-1700 gbp

same list as lee sent

[cyan ravine]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cNFN28

Thereabouts

There's a cheaper lg there one sec

[quartz oar]

wow 760 for graphics card

[cyan ravine]

Nvm can't confirm the cheaper screen

Yeah this is what I'd do

[quartz oar]

memory is ram?

[cyan ravine]

Yep

[quartz oar]

thought so

Ok ty

[cyan ravine]

Be that or this
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7QngqR

But the first of the two is better imo

[quartz oar]

i heard the 4070 isn’t always as good as some lower ones tho

[cyan ravine]

The vanilla 4070 ye

But 4070 ti isn't that bad at all

Rather one of the best of new nvidia tbh

Until the super cards drop

[quartz oar]

Ok ty

I’ll have to build this myself?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Unless you want something properly worse

Throw a friend 50 quid to build it

If you're worried lol

Better than paying some random 300 quid and they often don't do it perfect either

As well as shorter warranties for prebuilts

[crimson zinc]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-odyssey-g7-28-4k-uhd-ips-amd-freesync-premium-pro-g-sync-compatible-smart-144hz-1ms-gaming-monitor-black/6519254.p?skuId=6519254

? This good?

[cyan ravine]

Mmmm not for 580

Try 450 then I'd be smiling

[quartz oar]

this all comes with warranty?

[cyan ravine]

@crimson zinc https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cN3gXL/acer-xv322qk-v-315-3840-x-2160-144-hz-monitor-umjx2aav04

Yes

All with warranties

[quartz oar]

also i’m guessing there’s many vids out there than i can watch to put it together

[cyan ravine]

Most longer than the year that a prebuilt has

Ye

[mossy venture]

Robeytech has a good tutorial I liked

[cyan ravine]

Hell if anyone is around here they could answer some questions too

[mossy venture]

I haven't seem them but j2c and gamers nexus prolly have some

[cyan ravine]

Only teasing

[cursive wharf]

This aint no teasing matter. This is very serious. ||/s||

[quartz oar]

ok ty boys

[crimson zinc]

It is $480 with my $100 bestbuy giftcard I haven’t used since ours went out of business

[cyan ravine]

Still would lean to the $450 one I mentioned

[crimson zinc]

I didn’t even see that

Much better pick

[cyan ravine]

It's 350 with the gift card yo

Lol

[gentle pollen]

Gotcha, by basement you mean where the cables aren't normally seen?

[quartz oar]

would i be able to pay monthly?

[dusky hearth]

Yeah

[manic cloak]

I got hacked :) =

anyways what did i miss

[crimson zinc]

Depends where you buy

Usually companies like Affirm, ZIP pay, Klarna, and others like those will let you.

[crimson zinc]

@mossy venture same girl I was helping earlier now has a request for a “high end” blue case

I’m not sure what she means by high end

[obsidian wigeon]

that's vague af

[mossy venture]

Budget?

I mean? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8qFbt6/fractal-design-pop-xl-air-atx-full-tower-case-fd-c-por1x-06

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mpcG3C/fractal-design-pop-air-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-por1a-06

With pop xl I'd probably get an atx mobo over matx, with how huge it is

[obsidian wigeon]

blue tho

[mossy venture]

Overpriced But
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WggFf7/lian-li-lancool-iii-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-3r-x

[obsidian wigeon]

not just fans

[mossy venture]

Idk any good blue cases aside from maybe an n200 variant?

These looks OK?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BZnypg/montech-sky-two-atx-mid-tower-case-sky-two-morocco-blue

Oh king 95 has a blue variant
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RbxxFT/montech-king-95-atx-mid-tower-case-king-95-prussian-blue

@crimson zinc

[crimson zinc]

You’re telling me

[mossy venture]

Can you link the list we ended up with?

Anything bought yet?

[crimson zinc]

I’ll ask her for it
And as far as I know, no

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DTJrt7

This is the list she sent me

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G78N28

[crimson zinc]

Saves a few bucks
I’ll shoot that one over for them to use instead

[mossy venture]

Also white psu, so white cables which will look nicer

I'm also not so sure about the peripherals

I'd ask in #peripherals-and-displays

[crimson zinc]

I’ll probably talk about it with them, since they dont really need oled

[mossy venture]

I forget the reasoning behind the monitor, if not a super big reason for oled can save $400 and go IPS

[crimson zinc]

That’s what I’m doing with my monitor

Oh, earlier monitor question was for me, not them

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/83wsjH

That's what I'd do overall, though I doubt those speakers are good value either, I just know nothing about speakers

I'm also unsure on the keyboard and mouse change, I'd still ask in peripherals chat

[cyan ravine]

@crimson zinc
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZVQJTY
My two cents. Tho I tried to minmax it in the second one and it came out wayyyy better.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YpkMmD
Headphones here:
https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-sennheiser-pc37x-gaming-headset

Would need to wait for the 7800x3d sale is the only catch, or go to a micro center, or just accept the regular price rn for 50 more tbh*

[stable cove]

Does about everyone use pcpart picker? Looks like one of the best sites to purchase pc parts online

[cyan ravine]

Mhm

[crimson zinc]

It’s a fantastic place to keep track of parts and pick a list that works.

[plucky timber]

I use it as a reference

[stable cove]

Yea plus it lets you know if parts are compatible or not I think

[plucky timber]

eh

It's kinda basic

But yeah it is helpful

[cyan ravine]

It can be wrong sometimes

Cos it's made by pc people

Pc people which have strong opinions and refuse to bend on certain things

As it goes for this whole space really

[stable cove]

Shouldn’t most parts be compatible with your motherboard though? Because most parts get latched onto the motherboard and then put in the case

[cyan ravine]

Motherboard is strictly the least compatible part of a pc with the cpu

Because those two need to go hand in hand

Everything else obeys standard atx spec

[crimson zinc]

There’s a very big lack of speakers on pcpp

[stable cove]

Well that just makes it hard because you gotta match a motherboard with the right cpu

[crimson zinc]

It’s all just pebbles

[cyan ravine]

Honestly with a Sennheiser set I wouldn't really bother with the speakers anyway

[cyan ravine]

Yes, like a puzzle piece, they are entirely made for each other

But pcpp filters out incompatible motherboards so you're lucky in that regard

[stable cove]

I mean you got two types of cpus intel and Amd

[cyan ravine]

Yes with multiple sockets

AM4 completely doesn't work with AM5 for example, and they're both ryzen

[stable cove]

For an am5 motherboard you’d need a Amd ryzen 5?

[crimson zinc]

Let’s just all get ARC 7770s and cry

[cyan ravine]

AM4 vs. AM5

No they both have ryzen 5's 7's and 9's

But notice how different the cpus look underneath

They fit into completely different sockets

[stable cove]

Yeah ones got an empty square in the middle

[cyan ravine]

And pins

The other one is instead flat with no pins at all

Meanwhile these are the sockets each go into

[stable cove]

Thank one terabyte of storage would be enough for rtx 4080? Because a guy on YouTube said something about the storage getting real hot

[plucky timber]

I don't think storage capacity correlates with the gpu

[quartz oar]

i can’t post images?

[lyric thistle]

keep talking for image perm

[quartz oar]

i can send links though right

just want to know if a pre built pc i found is good

[lyric thistle]

yep

[quartz oar]

https://www.currys.co.uk/products/pcspecialist-flux-300-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-7-rtx-4060-ti-1-tb-ssd-10253261.html

is that any good for a pre build

[obsidian wigeon]

price?

i would like screenshots as well, the site has region lock

ah, i looked into it

that's pretty bad value

[quartz oar]

but the specs on it

they are ok?

[obsidian wigeon]

not for the price they're asking

@quartz oar buy this from cyberpower pc uk

in prebuilts tab

much faster gpu

[quartz oar]

alr ty

[cyan ravine]

Both not good at all

But anyway

[quartz oar]

why aren’t they good?

[cyan ravine]

16gb ddr4, wd green

B660m-k

And no listed psu

Shorter warranty

[quartz oar]

just throwing random letters at me here

[cyan ravine]

Low and slow ram, basic ssd

B660m-k mobo

And no listed psu

Shorter warranty than building from scratch

[quartz oar]

i can add more ram to it change it anyways

i can’t buy in full atm tho

so i’d have to get part by part

[cyan ravine]

Some impressive losses there compared to what we talked about

[quartz oar]

ik but i can’t pay monthly for the parts

[cyan ravine]

You should save up then really

Financing can end in trouble

We've had a few people even through here that have been ruined by financing

Pc gaming is a luxury, not a need

[quartz oar]

how so

[cyan ravine]

Heh

@obsidian wigeon remember kenzie?

[cyan ravine]

If you miss a payment or put yourself into debt you will be racked up fast for interest

[obsidian wigeon]

i merely recc that thing cuz of 4070

also yeah, i do

[cyan ravine]

You know you don't expect a broken arm or leg but 💩 happens

I would wait until you can just about afford it

[quartz oar]

realistically the pre builds are enough to run games at a decent level

[cyan ravine]

Sure, but you're definitely parting ways with a couple to few hundred quid in assembly and delivery

It's not that hard to build a pc, it's like lego but for adults

Or as I said, throw 50 quid at a mate who knows how

[quartz oar]

alr ty

[stable cove]

One guy said cyberpowerpc was sort of a scam for some reason. Shouldn’t we just buy from Newegg or pcpartpicker and out the pc together ourselves so we’re certain everything is screwed in just right?

[mossy venture]

Cyberpower is fine

Nowhere near as good as building yourself, but for a pre built company they're towards the side of better value/quality typically

[stable cove]

Well than it’s either pc parts or Newegg. Those seem like the best two to me and building a pc doesn’t seem too hard after the research as long as you get parts that all fit in each other

[severe hull]

I'm looking into the corsair case. Can I take the pre existing fans and run them with the fans on case. Is that a mother board thing

[mossy venture]

What corsair case

And I don't understand the questio

[severe hull]

The corsair you can control with lights

With app

So how do you control the other lights or is it just with power on

[mossy venture]

I would not use icue

It's actively malware and hurts performance

Use openrgb

[rugged moon]

guys i have a question my pc came with two of these, and i lost one and this one stopped working for some reason and im getting no wifi on my abs pc at all. is there anything i can do? or do i have to buy something else

ahh i cant send pics

but basically its a wifi antenna that attaches to the pc

[mossy venture]

Also checkout the phanteks nv5, o11 variants, and montech king 95

[severe hull]

Thanks bacca

Have to do case mother board and psu and my son will be ok for a bit

[potent portal]

Can confirm, I've seen iCue use 100% of a CPU core in the background just for a simple effect

[tawny violet]

Wow that's almost actually good value

[severe hull]

A pc with a built in gpu. What needs to be done to install a gpu , no physically. Will jt register or do I need to turn it on ?

[stoic island]

If you're just using the integrated graphics on the CPU, you can just plug your display into one of the display outputs on your motherboard and it'll use the igpu once you turn it on.

[severe hull]

You mean plug into gpu I don't want it to register igpu any more

[stoic island]

Wdym by "no physically" then? I thought you didn't have a dedicated GPU

If you want to use the GPU, plug into the GPU instead of mobo and turn it on

[lyric thistle]

Looks like a case

[stoic island]

Looks like too much glass

[cyan ravine]

If it's one of those mountable wall cases

Meh

Not worth anything over like 110 imo

[crimson zinc]

be quiet! Shadow Base 800 FX ATX Mid Tower Case
How about this

[cyan ravine]

Meh

Nothing really great about it in 2024

[crimson zinc]

It’s reviews are good

It looks nice

[cyan ravine]

Pretty meh tho

[crimson zinc]

I just wanna find something that looks sleek and quiet

That also isn’t garbage looking

[cyan ravine]

O11 vision

[lyric thistle]

How does a case look quiet

[cyan ravine]

Idk tbh

The fans make the noise not the aesthetics

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-computer-smash-gif-22104112

Whoops it made noise

[cyan ravine]

Oh god the p6 is not what I thought

Definitely not one of those

[lyric thistle]

There's some other Core whatever some such that looks like the H18

I like the way that one looks but I'll probably never build a computer with it

[shut rampart]

My pc feels delay, when ever I install that new monitor, like the clicks on YouTube takes about a sec delay to actually click

[crimson zinc]

I meant that runs quiet

I am a dumb

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K2bbcH

I am done picking parts

This is the build I’m buying

I’ve looked at everything in reviews, and charts

If it wasn’t needed for performance, I picked it for myself as a theme/just liked it

I will not need up upgrade for years

The budget didn’t matter for this

[vivid copper]

would probably grab a better gen 4 drive with dram if that's the way you wanna roll and you don't need a bluetooth adapter....board has wifi/bluetooth built in

and don't forget fans....

[crimson zinc]

That’s just cuz I need one for an old build anyways

[crimson zinc]

Will buy those at a local pc store

[crimson zinc]

@mossy venture

Any colours and doesn’t matter if RGB or not

Should I make like a small 2080/3060 build?

[mossy venture]

That much easily gets you a 7800xt/4070

Is it a commission?

Edit as you want https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Px8z6

[severe hull]

Thank you !

You guys have no idea how much help you all are

Took my oldest sons gpu and put it in my youngest son's pre-built that had an igpu

The first pc is going to get a new mother board , New psu and case soon ! We already have the new cpu that hasn't been installed.

[hidden nexus]

Hi folks, for those who used the PC Builder, what are your experiences with it? It's been over 15 tears since I've built a PC and honestly, I am not confident in whatever skills I have. If this system had 64GB RAM I would just buy it, but it doesn't, so I am thinking of using the PC Build. https://www.newegg.com/asus-g22ch-dh978-rog/p/N82E16883221779

[viral horizon]

could somebody pls help, i just got done dusting my pc with some canned air and for some reason my gpu fans wont spin

[vivid copper]

You'd be alot better off building your own PC especially at that price point. You'd get a substantially better build. Also 32 gigs is pretty much standard nowadays. What use case would you have for needing 64 gigs of ram?

[vivid copper]

Most modern GPUs fans don't spin unless they're under a certain load or temperature. Play a demanding game or run a benchmark.

[viral horizon]

ok, i was just scared, thank you

the screen wouldnt come up for a bit so i was worried, disassembled my pc again, and then came back only to wait a little longer and it coming on

sometimes im really stupid

thanks

[hidden nexus]

I was thinking the same thing, but it's been so long for me. I currently have an Aurora R9 with 32GB and I'm not happy with memory usage when I'm doing certain things like using Unreal and Premiere Pro. It's also sluggish at times with Chrome, so I figured my next system would have more RAM

[vivid copper]

That's alot of tabs you must have open but premier etc. can benefit for more ram. Wouldn't go more than 64 gigs tho. Unless your doing like VMs and stuff. But if you're at least borderline tech savy and/or are willing to at least put in some research and effort the outcome will be 200 times more beneficial. It's not really hard at all. It's like adult legos.

[vivid copper]

https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-build-a-pc-the-ultimate-beginners-guide
https://youtu.be/BL4DCEp7blY?si=4dNH1JLeSdJRIphZ

[hidden nexus]

Very helpful, thank you!

[crimson zinc]

You can always ask anyone here for advice or help choosing parts as well.

[hidden nexus]

Yeah, I plan on doing that! I'm toying around with the PC Build tool atm

[dusky hearth]

pc building in regards of connecting all the parts hasnt changed too significantly in the past 15 years; most of the complexity of today's builds are mostly from people adding things like RGBs or displays inside of their cases to glam it up, but if you're doing the good old just plain builds, it's still pretty similar

always can come back here to ask for help when in doubt

[vital magnet]

someone send me a build list? max budget $1,600 and I prefer AMD

[analog hearth]

Here you go bro I even had enough budget to include some RGB
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bRHP9c

[mossy venture]

Do you need wifi?

And do you already have a monitor? If so, what resolution?

This is the quick one I made, but one sec ima make a second one https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cHbmQP

Depending on what you do, this might be better for you
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xtHP9c

About 20% better cpu performance, about 15-20% less gpu performance

[vivid copper]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rfC7yg

[formal girder]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6K3Qh3 i might do this unless Hyte makes an itx version of their Y60 and call it Y20

[mossy venture]

Could do https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vB6GVW

[cyan ravine]

Best list

With maybe this if needed
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v2qPxr/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx7900xt-pg-20go

Or more optimal

[mossy venture]

Oh also, the extra for this kit is very worth it imo
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dFMMnQ/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-rgb-gaming-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-su064gxlwu60afdhsw

Better ram helps with 1% lows and overall system performance, it's a pretty noticeable difference between those two kits

[cyan ravine]

Yeah I was about to post that

The sapphire pure 7800xt is also a cheaper white gpu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Y4HJy

[mossy venture]

Iirc it's for workstation, I think they need nvidia for something

[cyan ravine]

Oh ic

Optix or cuda I'd understand

[formal girder]

optix for blender

[mossy venture]

For cpu tho, 7700 is a decent bit better than 13400 for both single and multi core, and you have upgradability

With ram swapped
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FTsdvj

[frigid jackal]

Valorant says it needs secure boot enabled but when I enter biod and search for it it’s enabled? my harddrive is formatted correctly as well as tpm is on

[frigid jackal]

Nvm I got it :3

it was tpm 2.0 when I went to check

but when I switched from auto to 2.0 it actually registered i guess

[cyan ravine]

Yeah windows is a bit touch and go with security device recognition

[dusky hearth]

anybody know what the die sizes are for the zephyrus g15 2022 for the 6900hx and 3070ti mobile

wait

i think i can figure it out just by searching those chips lmao

208 mm² for the cpu but what is the length and width

ok the 3070 ti mobile is a square chip, so i can figure out that it's basically 2cm by 2cm

[fossil cedar]

The square root of 208

[dusky hearth]

but it isnt a square die

it's like rectangular

[fossil cedar]

Why you needa know?

[dusky hearth]

trying to figure out what size of ptm7950 pads to buy lmao

[plucky timber]

what if you cut it

[cyan ravine]

buy a big one and use scissors

yeah exactly

lol

[plucky timber]

I like how we said it at the exact same time

[dusky hearth]

i mean, i dont want to buy too much lmao

[cyan ravine]

it gets cheaper the more you buy bulk

II bought a huge pad for like $20

[plucky timber]

how do they compare to regular thermal paste

actually aren't they just thermal paste but cleaner application

[dusky hearth]

idk, alec was the one that told me to use this over liquid metal for my laptop specifically lmao

[plucky timber]

hm

oh

they melt when heated

that's cool

[cyan ravine]

yes

[dusky hearth]

actually, should i get it in paste form or should i get it in pad form lmao

oh wait it's 9 i should get ready for class

[cyan ravine]

pad

paste needs curing

don't

it can also be very much a miss

[dusky hearth]

Damn

I wonder how much buying a whole roll of this would cost lmao

[gentle pollen]

If one of my PC fan's LEDs are flickering does that mean a cable might not be fully connected?

[dusky hearth]

It's possible

[gentle pollen]

Strange, i think it was just my software it's fixed now.

Using SignalRGB

[vague oracle]

Just get like a 40x80mm pad and cut it

[vague oracle]

It’ll be slightly worse performing than LM in a regular case by 3-4C

Asus laptop coldplates aren’t the best QC wise so they aren’t flat

Which in turn gives meh thermal results

[analog hearth]

#general-chat

[gentle pollen]

I think one of my P12s has gone bad. the light keeps flickering and it can clearly tell when I am trying to change the color signal but fails at maintaining light or changing to proper color.

[crimson zinc]

@cyan ravine Mr smart man

Fiancé has changed her mind once more
I cannot keep up with it
She wants a girly girl pink+white RGB build that goes well with her desk https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C9T93KQP?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

$3k budget

[lyric thistle]

Do they make that desk in pastel green

Oh looks like they do kind of

The lights in the pictures make it hard to see the actual desk color smh

[crimson zinc]

I don’t like the size of the desk, but it’s what she wants so I digress

[lyric thistle]

Why's that?

[crimson zinc]

We don’t have the largest gaming room

[lyric thistle]

Pretty big then

[crimson zinc]

I gotta fit her manual wheelchair in there somehow

[lyric thistle]

Well I mean if it fits in the end then it works

Hopefully not inconvenient for her getting in and out of the room at least lol

[hidden nexus]

Following up on my earlier post. It's been 15 long years since my last build, and I'm taking the advice here not going with a pre-built and putting it together myself. But it's been so long that I need some advice and guidance. I am going to use it for gaming, but primarily for game development (Unreal) and video editing with Adobe. Form factor is also a big deal for me, so I need something compact. So here's what I am thinking: https://newegg.io/2c02d5cd any feedback is appreciated

[mossy venture]

I would change most of that

Give me a few

[mossy venture]

The game dev and video editing you do, is it cpu focused?

What programs do you use/plan to use?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XKJYbL

4070 ti super also comes out soon, should be around the same price

Depending on what programs you use, 14700k+4080 super might be more fitting for you

13900k and 14900k are very similar, the only 14th gen cpu that is actually different from their 13th gen equivelant is the 14700k, it has 4 more e cores compared to the 13700k

[potent portal]

Sounds more like the header isn't giving enough power

[potent portal]

Adobe apps mostly use the CPU, with the GPU mostly used for acceleration.
Seems like Unreal likes lots of fast cores for compiling. Nvidia is also well ahead of AMD for this engine, especially with RT effects enabled. VRAM is usually a non-issue, but faster system memory will help with compiling. Fast storage can also be important since projects can easily reach 100GB+.
TL:DR priority order is CPU, RAM (48GB), GPU, SSD, other parts.

[hidden nexus]

Amazing! Thank you so much for the help and insight!

And yes, the main impetus for me getting a new system is that Unreal has really been taxing my current system, especially if I have any other apps open. Even Chrome kills my memory usage when I have Unreal open.

[potent portal]

Yeah the reason for upgrading you to 48GB of memory is that's the highest you can go without compromising speed. You should have plenty of room for a large project and whatever other programs you're using, too.

Here's that list with the faster 48GB memory, compared to the slightly slower 64GB Bacca picked. It would be easy enough to overclock the memory to 7000 or so, maybe higher if you're lucky, which you can't reliably do with 64GB.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cLyvN6

Either way is perfectly fine, and which is better will depend on exactly how many other programs you're running. 32GB is enough for large Unreal project alone, so any other memory hungry programs you're using like Chrome would be added on to that.

[mossy venture]

I fully agree with everything fal said, hes a lot more knowledgeable than me for this

[hidden nexus]

I bow to you both!

[little osprey]

i am trying to get something that will maximize performance on rust. what is a good cpu/gpu combo

[potent portal]

What budget are you looking at because without a budget I'm recommending a 7800X3D and 4090 lol

[mossy venture]

^^

Rust likes x3d cache iirc

[strong raft]

And 4080S or similar would knock off around $600.

[brittle tinsel]

Im considering building a new pc down the road more dedicated to gaming as my current one isnt all that geared for it.

I play alot of tarkov in my free time and from what I have read, ram speed has a lot to do with tarkov as it seems to limit amd processors. Apparently intel isnt as sensitive and I would like my gaming system to be somewhat future proof as it will be built in the future anyway lol.

for intel cpu with ddr5 ram, is size or speed recommended?

[gentle pollen]

was working fine for the past few weeks though?

[brittle tinsel]

Im looking at a 7200mhz 48gb kit CAS 36 at the moment

[potent portal]

The way to troubleshoot it would be to put only that one fan on a header to eliminate other variables

[gentle pollen]

will try that this weekend

[mossy venture]

I would suggest just getting a gauranteed 24gbit hynix kit and just manually setting it to 7200mhz

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RV4Zxr/gskill-ripjaws-s5-48-gb-2-x-24-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-f5-6400j3239f24gx2-rs5k

All hynix a die is the same, can just take the xmp of a 7200mhz kit and slap it on a cheaper hynix a die kit

[potent portal]

Those 24GB sticks are POG

That's the kind of thing you can buy now and keep using for 8 years

(probably, future is funky)

[mossy venture]

It's the B die of ddr5

[potent portal]

Seby got what, 11,000 or something like that on one stick?

Granted that's LN2 but still, that's just on a random retail g.skill stick

[potent portal]

I thought B die was the B die of DDR5

[mossy venture]

Wait there's b die for ddr5?

[potent portal]

Yes, it's the same B die that samsung used on DDR4 retrofitted to DDR5

[mossy venture]

Oh huh

Is that why it's so mid?

[potent portal]

Yep

It's good up to about 6000-6400 which is a little higher than you could expect for the same voltage on DDR4

The super tight primary timings it can do were great on DDR4 too, but barely useful on DDR5

[crimson zinc]

@potent portal mind helping me with fiancé’s demands

[potent portal]

I'm about to jump off to do some work but if no one else gets to it I can later

[crimson zinc]

🫡

[crimson zinc]

.

[mossy venture]

give me a few

wifi?

[crimson zinc]

Yes pls

Oh wait, we use Ethernet

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mHyvN6 can change gpu for a 4080s

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bYjfDZ

could spend a bit more on mobo if you want and explore case options

[crimson zinc]

I’ll probably get her that case and layer pink sparkly stuff on it.

[mossy venture]

can also set fans to pink rgb

[crimson zinc]

You right, good idea

[dusky hearth]

Plastidip

[brittle tinsel]

is there a big difference between 3090 and 4090? (other than the price obviously)

[strong raft]

Really? It's at least 60% faster, probably more like 75%-80% but I haven't checked recently. 3090 to 4090 is basically the biggest gen to gen increase.

[mossy venture]

Yes

4070 ti already beats the 3090

4090 is around 60% better I believe

[brittle tinsel]

I was looking at a 3080 12gb LHR but spending that much on a gpu why not do the little extra for 4090 you know? I mean I would be financing it so payments wouldnt be bad

[dusky hearth]

Sunk cost fallacy

not the same thing but close enough lmao

[brittle tinsel]

Yes and No. I didnt originally consider the 2 until I had seen a benchmark of a 3080 TI and 4090 on the same game with the same CPU. the 4090 had a higher average on ultra settings

my current rig only has a 1060 3gb card so I dont know anything more than 50FPS on lowest settings lol

[dusky hearth]

Lmao

Honestly speaking, a 4090 or 3090 is kinda wasted on gaming, assuming that you're only gaming

[brittle tinsel]

I feel it was of great sin in the PC community to pair a R9 3900x with it but I built this during the pandemic/GPU crisis.

[dusky hearth]

Lmao

[brittle tinsel]

The build would be strictly gaming. Ill just keep this rig around for other stuff.

I have no interest in 4k gaming. but definately 1080p high/ultra settings maybe 1440p but I only have 1080p monitors at the moment

[dusky hearth]

That is an.... Waste of a 4090 lol

You'll be cpu bottlenecked

Get at least 1440p

[brittle tinsel]

even on an I9 intel instead of amd?

[dusky hearth]

Not sure but 1080p doesn't really let the 4090 stretch its legs lmao

[brittle tinsel]

like I said, if it could run 1440p high settings with good fps then I would definately upgrade monitors. but if we are talking 1440p 100 vs 1080p 150+ I would prefer the 1080p

well I didnt really say that, I only said maybe 1440p 🤣

[dusky hearth]

Oh yeah since you seem set on a 4090, I highly recommend getting into VR as well, perhaps an index kit and ordering a big screen beyond and using the index while waiting for that lmao (would end up costing $2k+tax if you bought both

That should theoretically make the 4090 work a little harder lmao

that being said, i'm not 100% sure that you would enjoy vr, and the index isnt exactly cheap either, but i mean.... lmao

[brittle tinsel]

im not set on the 4090. I guess I can see how that could be taken. Im just trying to factor in a good GPU and CPU that would be a good combo for playing both CPU heavy games and GPU heavy games at high settings with a good avg fps. I just dont know enough about gpus to pick one.

I have heard that the amd R9 5950x cpus are better for gaming than R9 3900x but I feel intel will still probably be better for gaming only rig.

somewhat future proof would be nice

[dusky hearth]

if you want to save a bit of cash, and get 4080 performance, AMD's 6900xtx isnt a bad choice

better value for your money

yes, the 5950x would be better than the 3900x, but current gen amd cpus are the 7000 series

i believe it was the 7800x3d is the current gaming top dog?

im also not completely up to date on current pc hardware lol

[mossy venture]

How much is the 3080 12gb...

[brittle tinsel]

the one I was looking at was listed at a little over $1,000

[mossy venture]

Oh god no

4070 is $535 for the same performance

4070 ti is $750 and beats 3090 ti a lil bit

4080 super is about to launch at $1000 or 4070 ti super at $800, grab one of those

Or a 7900xtx

I would recommend upgrading cpu with any of those though

[earnest olive]

3080 for 1k 💀

i bought a 3080 10gb for 300 last year lol

[earnest olive]

if you want to stay on am4, get a 5800x3d instead of a 5950x

5800x3d might be a bit weak paired with a 4090 but it's the best gaming cpu for am4

[mossy venture]

Unless you need multi core perf. And overall, a platform upgrade to a 7600 isn't much more than 5800x3d

[brittle tinsel]

im not worried about sticking to am4. the "gaming rig" I am looking at building will be a whole seperate computer.

[mossy venture]

Oh dope

[earnest olive]

probably a 7800x3d then

[mossy venture]

7600/7800x3d for sure

[earnest olive]

if you got 4090 money then you got 7800x3d money

[mossy venture]

Or 14700k if you need multi core perf

[brittle tinsel]

according to toms hardware though the r9 7950x3d is the gaming top dog I guess

[mossy venture]

Ehh

[earnest olive]

kinda sorta

[mossy venture]

7800x3d effectively same performance

[earnest olive]

it's a lot of extra money for a cpu that sometimes beats the 7800x3d in games by a little bit and sometimes loses by a little bit due to scheduler shenanigans

[mossy venture]

Unless you're playing at 1080p and care about every single last frame, go 7800x3d

[earnest olive]

in general it's basically accurate to consider their gaming performance to be the same

i'd rather run the 7800x3d cause i don't want my cpu scheduling to depend on xbox game bar lol

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dq9sjH

[brittle tinsel]

im not worried about every last FPS. as long as its north of 120ish im happy.
if I could do 1440p north of 120ish FPS than I would do 1440p (once I upgrade to 1440p monitors)

[mossy venture]

You could do 1440p easily

1080p would be a crime

7800x3d 4080 super best I'd go for, 4090 at $600 more I'm guessing is going to be around 10% better, possibly up to 15%

[earnest olive]

the gap between 4080 and 4090 is pretty huge

[brittle tinsel]

The main title im worried about good performance in is escape from tarkov. but with out rough that game is to run, I feel if I could achieve my goal on that game, every other game is fine

[earnest olive]

doubt 4080 super is a 20% jump over 4080

[mossy venture]

Ah fair

So probably more like a 20% difference, unless they did a 3080 ti

[earnest olive]

ah i remember getting my 3090 down to 6 fps in tarkov

that was fun

[brittle tinsel]

🤣 yeah. tarkov isnt "optimized" much

[earnest olive]

i may have to been running at a slightly unreasonable resolution

[mossy venture]

Lowest I've seen on my 3060 ti is 28 fps with a 60 fps cap in cold war

[brittle tinsel]

why cap so low?

[mossy venture]

Because cold war rtx

[brittle tinsel]

ray tracing im assuming

[mossy venture]

I wanted to see how low it'd keep frames, with a 144 fps cap it didn't go over 58

[earnest olive]

20480x11520 gaming

wanted to see if i could make the 3090 run out of vram lol

it did in fact run out of vram

[dusky hearth]

just put a game on vram

[brittle tinsel]

what rig do you have orange? without pushing limits what is your average tarkov performance?

the biggest issue I have with tarkov on my rig is when I aim down sight with a magnified scope the game freezes for a solid second or 2. maybe 3 if its streets of tarkov.

[earnest olive]

nah tarkov was straight up using 24gb

i don't actually play tarkov lol i have no idea

i borrowed my friend's account to mess around

[brittle tinsel]

If I could narrow it down to a slight gpu upgrade would fix my main issue I would just do that. but idk. 3900x, 32gb 3600mhz ram with a 1060 3gb. game is on an sata 6gb ssd

[earnest olive]

probably running out of vram

[mossy venture]

1060 will not run tarkov well

Especially 3gb

[earnest olive]

tarkov eats vram and 3gb is a breadcrumb

[brittle tinsel]

it runs fine on every map but streets of tarkov. I cant use picture in picture optics on streets, or shoreline (shoreline has an issue with the snow for me.)

[earnest olive]

aiming down a scope has to draw a new scene with different textures since you're suddenly rendering something from far away

[brittle tinsel]

are there any cheap options to better this build so I dont have to do a large financed sum at the moment?

[earnest olive]

probably why the 1060 3gb is struggling so much

[mossy venture]

Just upgrade gpu

If you have a microcenter nearby could also grab a 5600x3d

[earnest olive]

yeah you could just start by upgrading gpu and then carry it forward to a new build later

[mossy venture]

I'd say wait for 4070 super to launch

[brittle tinsel]

thats what I meant when asking for a cheap option, I knew I should have been more clear.

[earnest olive]

a 4070 super would run tarkov great at 1440p

[mossy venture]

Grab that or a 4070/7800xt when their pricing drops (hopefully)

[mossy venture]

Sorry

[earnest olive]

my 3090 was getting 180-200 fps at 1440p max settings in tarkov

[mossy venture]

Missed that part

[brittle tinsel]

if there is a microcenter in florida I think its hours south and I dont drive because of a medical condition

I thought about maybe trying to find a cheap gtx 1080 but I fear used cards

[earnest olive]

1060 3gb to 4070 super is such a large upgrade that you can't even put a comparison number on it anymore lol

[mossy venture]

Could grab a 5600 or 5700x used and sell the 3900x

Should about break even

[earnest olive]

like raw raster power i think it's only an 8x upgrade but the actual experience is going to be a lot more than 8x better

[brittle tinsel]

if you were in my shoes and didnt have a large budget. what would you upgrade to from a 1060?

[earnest olive]

well what's your budget

[brittle tinsel]

Like the most I can spare at the moment is probably $200 but im sure I could use a credit card or finance up to $400 or $500 if its from a store.

[earnest olive]

used 3060 could be a good option, it's a lot newer than 1080 so less sus to buy used

used 3060s can be found for 200 and under

[brittle tinsel]

im more fear of them used for mining. Ive heard they are mined on for x amount of time then sold off. I dont know what damage mining does to em so I avoid used

[earnest olive]

20 hours ago on HWS

well

[brittle tinsel]

hws?

[earnest olive]

mining doesn't damage the card if the miner took proper care of them

if they didn't then they can have early fan failures

sometimes cooked vram if they really abused the cards

usually just fine to buy with buyer protection and then test the card on video

but understandable if you don't want to deal with used cards

could get a new rx 6600 for 200

that's practically the only viable option for a brand new card at 200

[brittle tinsel]

so I just jumped into a scav raid on streets of tarkov (the worst map performance wise) and im running
30% cpu
80% ram
and steady 100% gpu

(all while recording at 1080p 60fps)

[earnest olive]

cheapest nvidia card that you can buy new that isn't a pile of burning garbage is the 4070 at 535

[earnest olive]

sorry to say no surprises here

1060 3gb loses to igpus at this point

[mossy venture]

I would say 6650xt or 6600xt depending on pricing against 6600

It's normally like a $20 difference for a pretty noticeable performance jump

[earnest olive]

those are ridiculously overpriced rn

[mossy venture]

Ahh alr

[brittle tinsel]

I know, im a little worried about the ram being 80% though, isnt that pretty high for 32gb 3600mhz?

[earnest olive]

30-40 price difference from 6600 for the cheapest 6600xt/6650xt

[mossy venture]

Yeah cheapest is $240 damn

[earnest olive]

idk, i know tarkov likes to eat ram but i saw 20gb/32gb usage, probably you have a lot of stuff open and/or a lot of bloatware on your system

[mossy venture]

Speed doesn't really affect it but tarkov likes to eat ram (lol sips sent that right as I typed it)

[brittle tinsel]

I mean I got quite a few chrome tabs open as well as discord and my recording software

[mossy venture]

What about in the background

Anything using high amounts of ram?

[earnest olive]

as a firefox user i'm obligated to say it's chrome's fault

[brittle tinsel]

tarkov using 20gb
chrome 2gb
wall paper engine and discord 300mb each
anti malware and streamlabs using 200mb each

180mb for my msi software and like half gig for steam

120mb for task manager

[earnest olive]

interesting

using 180mb for wallpaper engine and 300mb for steam rn

anyways

there's nothing explicitly bad about being at 80% ram usage

you don't gain performance from having unused memory

and the system will free up memory dynamically when there's memory pressure

you should be concerned if your ram is hitting 100% or high 90s

ram is meant to cache data for quick access so high ram usage just means it's doing its job

[brittle tinsel]

wall paper engine could be using more cause I ran the x64 version. I guess it uses more ram.
but im going to disable it now because its been glitched for weeks and I just havent bothered fixing it

[little osprey]

why is my nvme enclosure using a "Intel SS DPEKNW020T8 SCSI DISK DEVICE" driver

its plugged into usb

[plucky timber]

That's probably the name of the controller

[deep raven]

Yo guys, Is It worth the extra money to go from a Ryzen 3 Pro 4350G to a Ryzen 5 5600/G?

[obsidian wigeon]

not really no

[lunar bone]

Might wanna put that money to a dedicated gpu

[deep raven]

R3 Pro 4350G + RX 580 It is then

Tbh I also planned on getting the 5600 then a 6600 XT

But I like saving money

[lunar bone]

Yeah just get the 580 and then you can upgrade to the 5600 or 58/5600x3d

[deep raven]

👍

will do

[vague idol]

Can someone tell me why my some on my pc stays of after I power it off

[obsidian wigeon]

gotta turn psu off or unplug it

the lights are indicators for the parts getting power

[fossil cedar]

Honestly get a 6600xt/3060 or better before even think about upgrading your cpu

[deep raven]

I'll keep that advice stored as long as I can

[dusky hearth]

Unless your cpu isnt enough for your use, not much point in upgrading it now

[potent portal]

Enable "ErP Ready" setting in bios. This enables a deeper "sleep" state when powered off that disables the 5VSB on most devices, which those lights are probably using.

[tawny violet]

Wait I thought that if I turn it off
It's off fully

Wacc

[potent portal]

ErP was created years ago as an energy saving standard. It never really caught on as a default option, but it's been on motherboards since about the time of Vista.

Enabling ERP mode in the BIOS allows the system to enter low-power states during periods of inactivity or when the system is shut down. These low-power states help conserve energy by reducing the power consumed by various hardware components, such as the CPU, memory, and peripherals.

https://www.electronicshub.org/what-is-erp-mode-in-bios/

[torn mesa]

um can you recc a mobo with wifi? i think its just a lot easier that way

[mossy venture]

There aren't cheap ddr4 wifi lga 1700 mobos, but one sec

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nnnhTn

Do those instead

[crimson zinc]

@split cliff what are those fans?

[zenith cargo]

My asus monitor won’t turn on

[split cliff]

phanteks d30, here’s the whole build https://pcpartpicker.com/b/J43Zxr

[zenith cargo]

I just installed an aio

[crimson zinc]

Sweet.

[zenith cargo]

Won’t turn on

[zenith cargo]

Real

[open jungle]

Does anyone know the Pinout to the Phanteks sfx 850w platinum PSU?

It’s not available on cablemod ;-;

[open jungle]

Can’t find the pinout anywhere

Only the 750w

[rain carbon]

Got a build im workin on and have a lot put into, opinions? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pFBmWt

Initially i had a 6800xt in the build, but its like 20 bucks more new so i didnt see any point going the 6000 series route

[obsidian wigeon]

don't see anything that can be changed

or needed to be

[rain carbon]

Good to hear, i was thinking maybe the motherboard i could get a bit cheaper but eh theres only so far i can go really

And stock fans im guessing'll be fine

Since im not too worried about noise

[cyan ravine]

Excellent list tbh. Rare that we see someone who gets it almost completely in one

I think if there's anything

...

Yeah this would be a bit better for the same price

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zQhv6h/asrock-a620i-lightning-wifi-mini-itx-am5-motherboard-a620i-lightning-wifi

But the one you have is fine

[fossil cedar]

Id get thus gpu instead, cheaper and shorter so easier to install in that itx case
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mHpQzy/gigabyte-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-gv-r78xtgaming-oc-16gd

[formal notch]

Hello

I have a problem with my newly assembled computer. When I turn on the back switch on the computer, power

there is power in the machine before I turn on the power switch. I can see some led light in the machine. Is there anything wrong in assemble? How to solve it ?

[potent portal]

That's normal

[earnest olive]

to elaborate, many modern mobos power LEDs using 5VSB (5 volt standby), you have nothing to worry about

if it does bother you you can disable it in bios or switch off psu when not in use

the name of the bios setting may vary by platform/motherboard brand

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NGcgXL/asus-dual-oc-geforce-rtx-3060-12gb-12-gb-video-card-dual-rtx3060-o12g-white

Thoughts for price to performance?

Currently using a 1080 GTX and I play on 1080p

[mossy venture]

Complete ass ngl

The low end value is kinda messed up atm

4060 is terrible value, 7600 is alright but isn't much of an improvement in terms of value over the 6600xt/6650xt

For a $300 budget I'd do 7600, 6700, 6700xt, or used

But 3060/4060 are just terrible value in general

[limber oyster]

Trying to stay Asus and RTX rn but below $400

[mossy venture]

Why

Why in all hell

Rtx I can at least understand

But asus?

Really?

[limber oyster]

I have an Asus GTX 1080 rn and driver updates are easier if I stay Asus rtx

I can do them from the Asus app

[mossy venture]

Drivers are completely separate from the AIB manufacturer

Ok

GeForce experience it takes 3 clicks to update drivers

I'm done with my input here, sorry but I just straight up cannot help you. For reference, the 3060 barely beats the 1080 in raw raster performance

[limber oyster]

I see

But yes, brand aside, trying to stay at 2 fans, 2x8pin max, and below $400

I have a Corsair sf750 psu

[pseudo pollen]

go get a used 3070

or 3080 if you can find it

[weary galleon]

Absolute dookie

3060 is the opposite of good price/perf

[rain carbon]

Appreciate it 🙏

[lyric thistle]

I don't think I'd quite put the 7600 and 6650xt at the same bracket as 6600xt

It's not a significant difference at least

I feel like it would be a waste to go from a 1080 to a 6600xt

Looks like pretty much a sidegrade

6700xt would be a good choice

[mossy venture]

I said in value tho, 7600 at 260 wasn't really worth it over 225 6600xt/6650xt

[lyric thistle]

Yea gotta find them for cheaper ig

Damn I guess 6600xt is only good value used

[limber oyster]

Do they have dual fan 3080?

[pseudo pollen]

yes, but it's not good cooling (unless it's the noctua version)

[lyric thistle]

They need to make an Arctic p14 dual fan

[crimson zinc]

Would anyone mind making a top-of-the-line 4090, 4K gaming build?

Like you can throw any game in existence at it, and it’ll handle it.

[mossy venture]

4k as in the resolution or 4k as in the budget

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WhxcmD

[rain carbon]

Both 4 thousand dollars and more than able to run 4k

[mossy venture]

Yeah I just went for that lol

Though 7800x3d for sure if just gaming

Overspending a lot for not much gained tho

Imo https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g7fPYN

[crimson zinc]

Resolution

I’m talking like, you had a 10K budget, wanted to do everything. Modeling, editing, gaming.

@mossy venture

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bc68Xk

Actually no

Since dual ccd bull crap

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zd8JRK

[rain carbon]

Less overspending, but still more than beefy enough to tolerate 3d modeling

[runic spruce]

@open jungle what case is that

It looks really nice

[open jungle]

Fractal Design Ridge

[rough totem]

I was about to ask

[open jungle]

i love this thing lol

[rough totem]

I've been thinking a lot lately about how much empty space there is in gaming rigs, the actual computer makes up a small portion of the rig. This is the alternative that I dream about.

[lyric thistle]

itx building gonna be fun

[open jungle]

I enjoyed building mine

It’s still not officially finished, I need more storage lol

And 2 80mm fans on top

[lyric thistle]

damn 80mm

[open jungle]

yer

the case is only 4.3 inches wide lol

[lyric thistle]

xd

smol

[open jungle]

just a lil bit lol

[rough totem]

Has anyone ever seen a case around the dimensions of a desktop HP or Dell, with a place for a DVD drive?

[open jungle]

like the optiplex systems?

[lyric thistle]

usually the cheaper older cases are like that

[rough totem]

Yeh

[lyric thistle]

check around pc part picker, looking at lower prices

[open jungle]

i mean my friend is using an old hp system rn lol

i7-7700k and a 3060ti fe

[mossy venture]

Not a bad pairing

Especially if they play at 1440p

[open jungle]

ive got a 13600kf and a 3080FE

[lyric thistle]

I still have an old case from a pc I parted out to build this one

[open jungle]

just a bit of an uprade from the 4790s and 1070

[open jungle]

75hz 1080p

I’m not much better, 165hz 1080p

[lyric thistle]

higher anti aliasing or something at least balances out the lower power 7700k

[open jungle]

Granted I’m planning on upgrading to 1440p soon

[mossy venture]

Check #tech-deals

Great price on a monitor

If you can rn

[open jungle]

I’m going Dell again

[mossy venture]

I'm on a 13600k/3060 ti at 1440p165hz

Why

Brand is irrelevant for monitors

Well

Brand is irrelevant 95% of the time with pcs

[open jungle]

Height adjustability is known good and I like my current Dell monitor

[rough totem]

Good line of credit

[mossy venture]

You won't find a deal like that one from Dell, but you do you

[rough totem]

Same reason Wile E. Coyote still shops at Acme

[open jungle]

The one I got for Christmas was 150

Granted it’s 1080p

But yeah

[mossy venture]

Yeah thats pretty mediocrely priced

Solid 1080p144-170hz monitors hover around $110-120 typically

1440p 144-165 around 190-220

[open jungle]

Yeah, fair point

[mossy venture]

1440p 240hz at $250 with a good panel is pretty rare

[open jungle]

The I’m looking at is 300

[mossy venture]

Idt I've seen it drop that low aside from I think 27qs once

What model?

I'll bring up a comparison

[open jungle]

Gimme a sec I’ll get the model

Dell G2724D

[mossy venture]

The xv272u isn't on this site, but 27qs uses a similar panel so it functions for the comparison
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/hp-omen-27qs-vs-dell-g2724d/39521/41041?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

[open jungle]

CHONGUS

[mossy venture]

Here's some other great options
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/k8GnTW/gigabyte-m27q-270-2560x1440-170-hz-monitor-m27q
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4xWJ7P/gigabyte-gs27q-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-gs27q
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BkzXsY/gigabyte-gs32q-315-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-gs32q
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W6QKHx/msi-g272qpf-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-g272qpf

The two GS monitors I'm unsure of

M27q is really really nice

[crimson zinc]

@mossy venture sorry for asking a lot lately. I’m just planning for a 4090