building-and-recc-chat

[cyan ravine]

this could be any i7 then

LOL

wait

ur not naz

[verbal plover]

its probably that tho

idk any other bdo mmorpg

[cyan ravine]

too many things nowadays that stand for something

[verbal plover]

true

[upper ore]

It was black desert online lol

[cyan ravine]

lol

[lyric thistle]

as if it would be anything else

this though

it's definitely that

[shut rampart]

hi

my mointor just came in and it wont turn on 😦

[pseudo pollen]

Ok

Plug it in

[shut rampart]

i did

seems to be the cable

[pseudo pollen]

Try a new one

[shut rampart]

where am i going to get a new one

[pseudo pollen]

Make sure to plug it into the gpu

[shut rampart]

it is its not turning the mointor on not the dp

[pseudo pollen]

Idk man, you want me to look in your house for you?

[shut rampart]

yes

ur allow to come to my house

[pseudo pollen]

See if there's a power switch on the monitor somewhere

And press the power button for a few seconds

[pseudo pollen]

Where you live

[cyan ravine]

if the monitor is switching on then ye I'd find any display cable you could substitute to test it

[pseudo pollen]

Power cable

[shut rampart]

the monitor isn't switching on

[cyan ravine]

if not turning on at all, that's different

[shut rampart]

tried differnt plug still not on

[cyan ravine]

is it one with a power brick

or just a cable

[shut rampart]

cable

[pseudo pollen]

If anything you can just return it

[cyan ravine]

if you can try another cable

maybe hope

if not yeah

I would claim dead on arrival

[shut rampart]

where am i going to get another cable lol

[cyan ravine]

they use standard cables most of them

send a picture of the monitor side

[shut rampart]

its an nitro xv271u

can monitor really be doa

[cyan ravine]

yes

dead psu or loose cable *inside

but send a pic of the power cable

[cyan ravine]

lol

can you disconnect iit

[shut rampart]

cable

[cyan ravine]

i wanted to see the plug

I guess I wasn't being specific tbf

[cyan ravine]

that's a standard kettle cable

[shut rampart]

ok so me return it

[cyan ravine]

C13 power cable

if you have one in your house, it will work with the monitor

you can find these in most electronics

[shut rampart]

I dont

[pseudo pollen]

One connected to PC will work

[shut rampart]

??

[pseudo pollen]

Just to test

What

[shut rampart]

what

[cyan ravine]

standard pc power cables are this cable

this exact cable

[pseudo pollen]

One included with your psu

[cyan ravine]

not all but most

[shut rampart]

oh

ok

[cyan ravine]

if no turn on then it's deadge

if turn on then new cable is like, $5

not worth a return for $5

[shut rampart]

1 sec let me turn off my pc

[cyan ravine]

alr

[shut rampart]

It is dead

[cyan ravine]

ooh dear

[shut rampart]

No light

It was a great run

[cyan ravine]

didn't turn on when you tried pressing a button or something?

[shut rampart]

No

Me click no work

[cyan ravine]

welp, time to lodge a return

sucks but it happens

[shut rampart]

Me chatting with Amazon support

[cyan ravine]

they may even arrange a courier

you could see if they could drop off a new one then they take the old one back

[shut rampart]

They said they will just refund me and I would have to buy another one

Anyone want a doa monitor

[cyan ravine]

they don't want to take the broken one??

[shut rampart]

Nvm they just said that

[cyan ravine]

LOL

was gonna say

not bloody cheap

haha

[shut rampart]

Which one is it?

[cyan ravine]

you said 271u no?

not 272u

[shut rampart]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

the $200 one there is a really good deal

[shut rampart]

What’s the difference

[cyan ravine]

older

[shut rampart]

I paid 217 plus tax on Amazon

[cyan ravine]

the $200 one is good

can confirm

it's a revised panel, one of the better budget 1440p options

[shut rampart]

Watch it be doa again

So the older one is more money?

[cyan ravine]

I will never recommend Acer again if that happens lmao

[cyan ravine]

good question, not sure why, the XV272U is very good tho

XV271U M3 is a couple years old afaik, not a lot of info out there about it

meanwhile 272U has a lot of good reviews

[shut rampart]

Now I got to remove the stickers from the box 😦

[shut rampart]

It worked!

But now can’t change to 180hz

[cyan ravine]

What worked

[shut rampart]

It turn on

But stuck at 60hz 😦

[pseudo pollen]

Check cable

[shut rampart]

It’s a dp

[cyan ravine]

Does it set to 165 or 144

[shut rampart]

I will try 165

No 165

No 144

I had replace it with an old monitor and it was able to do 144

[cyan ravine]

Is this a new pc

[shut rampart]

Old

[cyan ravine]

What gpu is it

[shut rampart]

6700xy

Xt*

[cyan ravine]

Oh that should work the heck

Check the screen menu

See if it's something in there

[shut rampart]

Just say 50

60*

[cyan ravine]

Does it say anything in the manual?

[shut rampart]

No

[cyan ravine]

Hm

Is this the 272u?

[shut rampart]

YES

ops caps

[cyan ravine]

Do you have a hdmi cable

[shut rampart]

the box gave me one

yes

[cyan ravine]

Try hdmi

See if it's a port thing or a driver thing by doing this

[shut rampart]

hmm

hdmi worked for 144 hz

prob a cable then

any cheap dp cable

[cyan ravine]

Cable or port ye

[shut rampart]

cable

[cyan ravine]

No I mean, it could be the port on gpu or monitor being the suspect

Or yes cable

For a cheap cable I'd pick almost anything DP1.4a tbh

Or DP2.0/2.1

If you want a brand, amazon search "dtech"

[shut rampart]

this was my cable

https://www.amazon.com/IVANKY-Displayport-DisplayPort-Compatible-Grey-6-6ft/dp/B078HVDMW2/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3KJ93EZTJ0I4P&keywords=dp%2B2.1&qid=1705008914&sprefix=dp%2B2.1%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-5&th=1

[cyan ravine]

Ah

That would be your problem yes

[shut rampart]

what is it

[cyan ravine]

1.2 doesn't do even 1440p 144hz iirc

[shut rampart]

idk if its 1.2 or 2.1

idk it doesn't say on the branding

[cyan ravine]

Ah no it did do 1440p 144

Weird tho it failed even that

[pseudo pollen]

still going?

[cyan ravine]

That would have to be a very old cable tho

[shut rampart]

yeah it failed 1440p at 144

bought it like 3 years ago

so prob yeah

I will buy the 16k verison one

since its 2.1

[cyan ravine]

You could try 1440p 120hz on the dp cable

I mean if that still works it's usable

For something else I mean

[shut rampart]

but the hdmi they gave me allow me to do 144hz

[cyan ravine]

Ye

Don't main the dp

Just curious if it could still semi perform

[shut rampart]

ok

120hz no work

[cyan ravine]

Either that's not even 1.2 or something in that handshake is buggered lol

Did you use it on your previous monitor?

[shut rampart]

yes

at 1080p it gave me 144hz

[forest lava]

Is the archibald guy right?

[lyric thistle]

archibald

[mossy venture]

There are "better" graphics cards, but not at that price point unless you're going used

4070/7800xt price might come down with 4070 super launch

Though I'd save the $10 and do
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gCvD4D/powercolor-fighter-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx7800xt-16g-foc

[forest lava]

ty

My friend's trying to get a new pc but he also has someone else giving him advice and I wanna make sure it's not one of those brand bias people

[mossy venture]

What's his budget for the whole pc?

I can throw together what I'd do for you to compare against

[forest lava]

Probably $1400 or something by now

I asked him a while ago but his budget might have increased

[mossy venture]

Oh 4070 ti/7900xt 100%

[forest lava]

What about $1300 just in case?

[mossy venture]

Is he just gaming?

[forest lava]

Mostly

[mossy venture]

And does he care about aesthetics/rgb?

[forest lava]

I don't think so

[mossy venture]

Sick

[forest lava]

He just wants a strong pc

[mossy venture]

Do you know if he uses ethernet?

[forest lava]

He doesn't from what I know of

[mossy venture]

Ok last question, does he need a monitor?

[forest lava]

Yeah definitely

[mossy venture]

Ah alright

Ok first option, over $1300
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7f3vN6

Gonna do a cheaper one

[forest lava]

a 7600 will be enough for a 7800xt build?

[mossy venture]

This is the cheaper option imo
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hyvhGP

100%, 7600 won't limit a 7900xt at 1440p

Xtx it does a little bit

But honestly 7600/xtx is a fine pairing

12400f might limit it a bit, it depends on the game

But it's still a very capable pc. On the flip side of doing cheaper, could do https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6NRyQP

6800 is around 10-15% worse than 7800xt I think?

But you get a better cpu, as well as cpu upgradability

Imo I'd rather 7600/6800 over 12400f/7800xt

He could also do a used 3080/6800xt or better for around 350-450

[desert plover]

can anyone give me an idea on the performance I'm going to get on my build? I've already bought my cpu and cpu cooler, and I know the 3060 isn't the best, but it is what fits my budget currently. I'm open to criticism though

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9P96KX

[potent portal]

For only $10 more you could have gotten a 6700, but what's done is done.
Performance will vary by game, resolution, and settings.

[desert plover]

I assume that's a different cpu

[potent portal]

No it's an AMD GPU that gets about 15% more performance than the 3060

[desert plover]

ah

I'll look into it

[potent portal]

Oh nvm the 6700 I was looking at is out of stock

[desert plover]

lol

any thoughts on my other parts? I don't think I need to worry about those, they look pretty good for me

[potent portal]

There is this though, the 6700 XT gets slightly better performance than the 3060 ti on average. https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6700-xt-11306-01-20g/p/N82E16814202399T?Item=N82E16814202399T

Which is about 20% more than the 3060

[potent portal]

Could have saved some money on a few things but nothing jumps out as "bad" parts

[desert plover]

does the cpu go on the 6700 XT? idk if that's a dumb question but it looks like there is a cpu slot on it lol

nah I'm tripping

[potent portal]

No it goes on the motherboard, what you're probably looking at is the MLCC (capacitors) behind the GPU core

[desert plover]

yeah idk what I was thinking lmao

if I were to get the 6700, would my current power supply be sufficient?

[potent portal]

What's cool about the GPU is it has an argb header on it too, that's a nice bonus

750W would be enough for a 7900 XTX or 4080, even a 4090 when paired with a lower power CPU

[desert plover]

okay👍

I think I will probably go with the 6700 then

[mossy venture]

If you're gaming https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zymJTY

That would give a lot better perf

Ah you alr bought the cpu and cooler

[potent portal]

Yeah that would be the min/maxed list, but they already bought most of the parts

[mossy venture]

Ohh thought they just said cpu and cooler they bought, mb

[desert plover]

yeah I wanted to get some more opinions on my other parts before I locked in my choices yk

[potent portal]

Oh you're right, I remembered wrong

[mossy venture]

I'd do that list with the cpu and cooler you bought then, if it's still in budget

Otherwise I'd do 6800 at $400

If you can cancel the cpu order, 12600k is $170

Same cpu but has an igpu

[desert plover]

what's the difference between the 12600k and and the KF variant?

[mossy venture]

And if you wanted to go ddr5
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JDbxWt

[mossy venture]

K has igpu

Kf doesn't

[potent portal]

F means no integrated GPU, that's it

[mossy venture]

Hey heads up, I meant to include fans in those lists

[desert plover]

which means integrated graphics..?

[mossy venture]

The thermalright c12c 3 pack black tgb is $14 on amazon, go for those

[potent portal]

The Intel iGPU is mostly useful for driving a secondary display or troubleshooting

[mossy venture]

Gpu built into the cpu. It doesn't hurt to have, it's good to have for troubleshooting and some other occasional things, like streaming

But otherwise it's the same cpu and $15 cheaper

You could also go for am5 with a 7600, it comes with a stock cooler and costs the same as the 12600k and the cooler you got ($200)

And is a bit better, as well as has an upgrade path

12600k sockets best cpu is already out. 7000 series is the first generation on its socket, so likely at least 2-3 gens to come

[desert plover]

I heard about that from someone else actually

[potent portal]

Ryzen 8000 is looking pretty noice, a good 15-20% better

[desert plover]

not being able to upgrade because it's the current most recent cpu

[mossy venture]

This would be the 7600 list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qry334

[desert plover]

very cool

[crimson zinc]

You know what would be an absolute game-changer for pc building?

[potent portal]

Less cables?

[desert plover]

real

[earnest olive]

wireless psu

[crimson zinc]

Having a program that would create 3D models of every single part you could put into it.
Then, you could build PC’s and see if they would fit all the parts+how it looked in a 3D model before you built it/buy.

[earnest olive]

12v over bluetooth

[earnest olive]

PCBS

[desert plover]

brain

[crimson zinc]

Is that a thing already

[earnest olive]

doesn’t have everything but it has a lot of things

[potent portal]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/pc-building-simulator-2

[earnest olive]

there you go

wouldn’t really be a game changer though

figuring out physical compatibility isn’t that difficult

[potent portal]

It's still cool for seeing how everything looks all put together

[earnest olive]

yeah

[desert plover]

@potent portal I think I'm gonna take your advice and get the 6700XT

[potent portal]

20% more fps for 10% less money is an easy W to me

[desert plover]

I'm wondering though, I cant find the exact same model on pcpartpicker, is that an issue? I just wanna make sure every is completely compatible

[potent portal]

It's out of stock on pcpp, it'll fit though

[desert plover]

alr thanks

[potent portal]

It's this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tCLFf7/sapphire-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-nitro-video-card-11306-01-20g

You can add it to the list and manually set the price

[desert plover]

awesome, thanks for the help

one last question, do you think it would be worth buying the refurbished one off Newegg? brand new is about 500 it looks like, and I'm always looking to keep cost down

I don't want to sacrifice quality though

[pseudo pollen]

If it's now much more, get the new one

[mossy venture]

For 6700xt?

There's plenty of models around 300-330, if you want new go for one of those

[desert plover]

refurbished is 260 on Newegg

yeah

[mossy venture]

If you're fine with refurb, $260 is a pretty nice price

[desert plover]

I just don't know if I would be sacrificing any performance with the refurbished one

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c3RYcf/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-video-card-axrx-6700xt-12gbd6-3dh

No

You would not be

[desert plover]

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6700-xt-11306-01-20g/p/N82E16814202399T?Item=N82E16814202399T

alr

that was my only concern

[potent portal]

GPUs don't lose any performance with use, as long as they're clean enough that they're not overheating. Even used mining cards are fine.

[manic cloak]

I wonder how good the 4070 super is to the 7800xt

I heard it’s exactly on par or even better

[obsidian wigeon]

4070 super will be a good chunk faster

it's just a 4070ti with 85% cuda so

expect it to beat 7800xt

same vram, same bandwidth

[manic cloak]

Ofc I had to buy a 7800xt a month before too 😭

[obsidian wigeon]

eh, no one could've guessed

just enjoy the 7800xt

[mossy venture]

If you compared to two side my side with show fps off, you likely couldn't notice a difference

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

there is a difference but i don't think it's worth feeling bad over

4070 perf is still pretty strong

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/d6kD4D/apevia-case-xcruiser3al

What in the heckerino is this

[plucky timber]

This screams 2000s

[crimson zinc]

It screams no flow

[plucky timber]

Yeah?

But drive bays

[crimson zinc]

Looking it up
Seems like it’s just made of cheap plastic and has molex connectors for everything

[plucky timber]

It's a 2000s design

Literally every case looked like this

[crimson zinc]

There’s a lot of these types made by this company too

Seems they just popped out whatever was drawn on a napkin lmao

[plucky timber]

Everyone made these cases

[crimson zinc]

I can tell

[plucky timber]

And these aren't bad

[crimson zinc]

Coming from being on Xbox like 3 years ago, a lot of the cases I thought were cool in my Xbox days, are decades old now

[plucky timber]

They're still good for servers

[crimson zinc]

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-0319-00088

How do you feel about this boeing

[plucky timber]

Looks flimsy

[manic cloak]

I wonder when nivida gonna get good like drivers software as AMD

[crimson zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-steve-carell-laugh-good-one-banana-gif-4958026

[plucky timber]

POV: LInux user

[crimson zinc]

POV: I’m too stupid for that

[timber stump]

Hey I’m trying to plug in my pc case fans into the motherboard but I’m stuck with this lhe connector that doesn’t quite fit the system fan slots on it I’m plugging it into a b550 auros

[plucky timber]

that is not a fan connector

[strong raft]

proprietary. goes to case hub or something. -- yep, we know it doesn't go straight to mobo though.

[plucky timber]

could be an extension

[timber stump]

It does say LHE

All I have is that, the rgb, and this

Unless I connect this piece to one of the psu females but other than that I don’t see how to connect it to the motherboard because the rgb only turns on the rgb right?

[vivid copper]

that is a molex connector...that goes to your PSU

[strong raft]

said psu is often labeled perif/peripheral, but here's what all look like:

[timber stump]

Does it matter which one I use? I think my gs 700 has a couple molex cables

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[limber oyster]

Something interesting about my PC. It's a Asus b550-i with a 7 3700x, a Strix 1080 8GB GTX, Corsair sf750 80+ gold, and 32GB Corsair vengeance RGB pro ram. My motherboard has the debug LEDs, and my white one for VGA is always lit even though my system boots and displays just fine. I can even game on it stably. No thermal issues either

[cyan ravine]

might just need a reseat

[limber oyster]

Meh

I don't have a screwdriver

It boots, I'm not worried

I still find it interesting tho

[cyan ravine]

my x570 does that then maybe a few weeks later I get insufferable boot issues

ymmv ig but up to u

[limber oyster]

Oof

Honestly wish I could swap my 1080 GTX with my 3080 strix, but oh well

Can't do custom loop in my itx case

[cyan ravine]

can't do air?

[limber oyster]

My 3080 is in a custom loop rn and I forgot where I put the stock cooler

[crimson zinc]

Grab a spare off something like eBay or Mercari

[limber oyster]

Nah

I don't really use that much GPU power anyways

It's mostly CPU or RAM

Like id probably benefit from a Ryzen 9 vs a 3080

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FCPQzy/cooler-master-haf-700-evo-atx-full-tower-case-h700e-ignn-s00

Is there a reason this is $700?

[cyan ravine]

it's a ridiculous case

good but ridiculous

it has a lot of rgb and a little screen on the front

plus it's a rare full tower size

[limber oyster]

I'd go 1000D instead

[cyan ravine]

I'd do enthoo pro 2 at that size tbh

[limber oyster]

I use the Asus tuf gt502

Basically the lian li od-11 xl or whatever it's called, but cheaper

[cyan ravine]

honestly the only thing stopping me from going enthoo pro 2 is the cost for more rads

I can easily run a dual system config in it

[limber oyster]

I'm just waiting for the newer motherboards where all the connectors are on the back to become more mainstream and a full size ATX case similar to the gt502 to be available

[cyan ravine]

you've got montech king95 no?

[limber oyster]

I just stated what case I have

Twice

[crimson zinc]

is that case any good? Or is it just inflated price?

[cyan ravine]

you were asking for a case like GT502

I answered.

[limber oyster]

Yeah up before that

[limber oyster]

@cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

I read that

bruh

[limber oyster]

Then why ask if I use a montech?

[cyan ravine]

you asked for a case like GT502

I didn't

I offered an option

"Hey, look at this case, you might be interested" context

[limber oyster]

I don't think thats compatible with the newer boards where ALL the connectors are on the rear

[cyan ravine]

it's not

[limber oyster]

Yeah, then it's not gonna work

[cyan ravine]

It's just making convo lmfao

[limber oyster]

I'm looking for a case that's similar to the 502 AND compatible with those boards

While waiting for those boards to be cheaper

[crimson zinc]

Cougar Gemini S

How’s that case @cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

can already tell the airflow is terrible

[crimson zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/on-my-way-ill-get-you-wicked-witch-wizard-of-oz-gif-17005757

I just want a destiny themed build

[cyan ravine]

O11 vision

[crimson zinc]

Seems a little too open

[cyan ravine]

open?

it's a case with 3 sides of glass?

unless you mean like open plan open

lol

[leaden mauve]

corsair

900d

[limber oyster]

9001D

[tawny violet]

To all the cable management wizards that can make any build looking sharp and clean
What's your trick? How do you manage cables to not be seen?

[formal girder]

zip ties, cable ties, and/or Custom Cables

[tawny violet]

So just a crapton of zipties?

[lyric thistle]

only the amount that's needed imo

not that many

[tawny violet]

And maybe some post-its to label cables so if something breaks you know what to unplug to replace it?

[lyric thistle]

post its?

[tawny violet]

Since there's a lot of like
RGB cables that are a pain to remember what plugs where

[tawny violet]

Little sticky note thingies

Though I might just make the jump and order a small pallet of Arctic P12 PST ARGBs and use those exclusively

Just cuz you can daisy chain like 8 of them off of a single standard case fan header, so it'd be really easy to cable manage them all

[potent portal]

Post its don't stick for very long in dusty environments. If you want something along those lines you can do the little cable flag labels.

[grave sail]

Hello! I'm new to discord, I just built a new computer and right out the gate having issues with the thing staying on. I have already swapped out the power supply and the HDD. Now I am at a loss on what else is going on.

[potent portal]

What specs do you have? Do you have any debug lights on? What slots are your memory sticks in?

Did you remove the plastic from the bottom of the CPU cooler?

[grave sail]

I am running a 13th gen intel i7, with patriot venom DDR5 RAM, my sticks of memory are in A1, A2.

it also boots up to the bios and then just shuts off.

[crimson zinc]

Are there any better cases that do this same system as a display?

[mossy venture]

Do slots 2 and 4

And secure all connections and make sure ram is fully slotted in

[crimson zinc]

It seems like there’s a big problem with airflow in this so I’m looking for alternatives

[potent portal]

Which is usually A2/B2

[potent portal]

What motherboard? You may need a bios update for 13th Gen on some boards

[pseudo pollen]

airflow comes from bottom, so everything basically goes to the gpu, I have a similar case (ap201) and I have the back fan as intake into the cpu

so everything is pretty cool under load

[crimson zinc]

What recommendations would you give for flow to the gpu?

[pseudo pollen]

fans or?

[crimson zinc]

Yes, I am too inept for water cooling

[pseudo pollen]

I have p12 max

gets kinda loud at high rpm, but 1500 is pretty quiet

[mossy venture]

C12c or p12s

[crimson zinc]

Do you know of any free/low cost hardware monitoring software?

[lyric thistle]

HWiNFO

[pseudo pollen]

I prefer HWmonitor

[lyric thistle]

I used to when I didn't know about HWiNFO

[crimson zinc]

https://www.amazon.com/D41-Computer-Mainboard-Support-335-400mm/dp/B0BQJ5S99L?th=1&psc=1

So this is a good case if I replace base fans?

[pseudo pollen]

I used hwinfo first

[pseudo pollen]

Yeah, just make sure to have a flat surface (like desk) under it

[crimson zinc]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CDW9WCK2?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

This’ll be the desk o use

[potent portal]

I prefer hwinfo because it has more integrations with other software. I use it with Fan Control to read my GPU sensor data and control my bottom fans.

[crimson zinc]

@potent portal

https://mycherrytree.com/products/star-trek-picard-pride-edition-borg-cube-atx?variant=43596268634367

[potent portal]

THE CUBE

[crimson zinc]

I think I’ve found fiancés pc

It is this

Could you make me a list of parts compatible to that with a similar level of power? (So I can save $1190)

[potent portal]

US?

[crimson zinc]

Yes

[tawny violet]

I'll remember that, cheers for the tip

Also holy mother of God that build fee

[crimson zinc]

Yeah, I’m gonna build it myself lmao

Apparently this case is quite nice for airflow and space

She will literally cry if she gets this thing

[tawny violet]

Just make sure to use the extra airflow plate

But yeah it can probably house something pretty powerful
Maybe not 4090 powerful, but still

I'm honestly kinda tempted to get one myself

Like it just looks so good

[crimson zinc]

They’re custom made. None are the same.

They’re the only people licensed in the world to do a Star Trek pc component

[plucky timber]

Those fans are a crime

Reeeee

They should be green

[potent portal]

They can be green

It's only rgb in the picture to show it's rgb

[plucky timber]

Ah

I'd mod it

Take out the force field at the front of the case

And replace it with voyager firing torpedos into the cube

[potent portal]

This would be a little better than the system they priced out, sorry about the delay. Wait for the 4070 ti Super to launch in 12 days.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VD2w89

Or just get a 7900 XT instead of the nvidia card, similar price but much better performance

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q7TgqR

Well maybe the 4070 ti super will match the 7900 XT after all. We'll have to see.

[crimson zinc]

I’ll send this to her and see if she likes it.

[frigid jackal]

are these the jumper pins?

nvm

it says clr_cmos

lmao

Tried to increase the speed of my ram from 2600mhz to the 3200mhz it should’ve been at and I had to restart the cmos because of it

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[frigid jackal]

oh

is that normal

that I had to dot hat

[cyan ravine]

depends on your specs

oh god that was a bad typo

LMAO

I didn't realise the d and c were so close on a keyboard

uh yeah depends on your specs

and the age of the ram and kit

[frigid jackal]

4060 ddr4 3200mhz 4x8gb

[cyan ravine]

what cpu tho

[frigid jackal]

i5-12400f

[cyan ravine]

mobo?

b660 ud?

[frigid jackal]

b760

[cyan ravine]

or b760?

hmge

that should work

[frigid jackal]

do’t think it matters but 650w lol

[cyan ravine]

so what exactly happened when you switched it

[frigid jackal]

was setting up brother’s new prebuilt… and I went to check the speed of the ram in task manager and it was at 2600 and not the 3200mhz so i went to bios -> advanced mode and saw the system memory multiplier at auto 2400 so I set it manually to 3200 and when I booted I got the red led for vram

actually not sure if it was for the vram but im assuming so

then I reset the cmos

Should XMP be enabled?

maybe I changed the wrong thing as well lol

[cyan ravine]

ok question

did you buy both sets of 2x8 together

or a 4x8 kit all at once

[frigid jackal]

all at once

prebuilt cane with it

well ig im not sure

either way its the sane brand of ram for each

[cyan ravine]

what ram is it

[frigid jackal]

do you mean the brand or like specs

[cyan ravine]

anything you can give me really

if you can take them out and send them with the stickers on the back it would help a lot too

[frigid jackal]

well the website doesn’t specify but it’s t-force and its 4x8gb ram 3200mhz

sure

[cyan ravine]

ah

oh yeah t force will still give me a hint

yeah send me a stick pic

lol

[frigid jackal]

fs

[cyan ravine]

oh sorry

[frigid jackal]

not sure if it matters but it shouldn’t be too surprising that it’s nzxt

[cyan ravine]

can I get all 4 sticks

sorry I'm a bit lewd

[frigid jackal]

😭

[cyan ravine]

I was trying to compare manu dates

[cyan ravine]

first 4 numbers of SN are year and week of the year

no they're all the same kit

100%

interesting

ok next thing

[frigid jackal]

I’ve never taken this many before 🥵 not sure if i took them out right

[potent portal]

Serial numbers are sequential too, nice

[frigid jackal]

pretty sure Imm chilling tho

[cyan ravine]

try put 2 sticks in only

run 3200

[frigid jackal]

2 and 4 right

[cyan ravine]

ye

if it works

try 4 again cos it's a reseat

[frigid jackal]

i didnt realize the bottom part was a clip

my monitor doesnt have it like that

[cyan ravine]

oh yeah some boards are

[frigid jackal]

prolly chilling tho

[cyan ravine]

click top and bottom

[frigid jackal]

question

do I reset the cmos rn

prolly not right

[cyan ravine]

nah

[frigid jackal]

Ok didn’t destroy the ram

🙏

is this right?

[cyan ravine]

if 2 work at 3200 but 4 don't, it's one of three things:

1. dead stick
2. board doesn't like 4 sticks which leads to 3:
3. they didn't test these systems at all at 3200 (which is what's in front of us)

nah

go out of that

[frigid jackal]

knew it lol

[cyan ravine]

go up to XMP

[frigid jackal]

yup

[cyan ravine]

then click profile 1

[frigid jackal]

yep

[cyan ravine]

it will auto load 3200 16 20 20 20 40

1.35v

[frigid jackal]

[cyan ravine]

that's the xmp...lol

it's a basic hynix kit usually

[frigid jackal]

ok do I save and exit then put in the rest of the sticks

[cyan ravine]

save and exit

wait for 2 to post

go to bios

turn off

then immediately put 4 in

try again

it should just try with 3200

[frigid jackal]

bios -> turn off xmp -> dave and exit -> turn off pc -> install the rest -> bios -> try xmp?

[cyan ravine]

bios

turn on xmp

save exit

wait for new post

back to bios

turn off

put sticks 1 and 3 in

turn on again

wait for post

go to bios

check for 3200

[cyan ravine]

2 sticks?

[frigid jackal]

after I saved and exit it was blakx screen so I restarted pc and it showed this

[frigid jackal]

yeah

2 and 4

[cyan ravine]

ok enter bios

then turn off

then take out the current sticks

try the other two

[frigid jackal]

won’t let me enter buos

double clicking

[cyan ravine]

lol

[frigid jackal]

nvm

[cyan ravine]

turn it off completely then

[frigid jackal]

the battery fell out of my mouse

[cyan ravine]

[frigid jackal]

oh nvm

still wont let me in

[cyan ravine]

just turn off then

[frigid jackal]

👍

[cyan ravine]

take out the first 2, put the other two in slot 2 and 4

try the same thing again

sounding like a bad stick or slot rn

[frigid jackal]

got damn unclipping the bottom one just made them fly out 😭😭

[cyan ravine]

yeahhh

if I had a dollar

[frigid jackal]

hmm

might have screwed smthn up

put the ram in

[potent portal]

I had one do that and it managed to break a header on the bottom of my board

[frigid jackal]

clicked in the top

tried to do the bottom and it made a noise

[cyan ravine]

a crunch?

[frigid jackal]

ngl not sure

had headphones on

[cyan ravine]

is it in

[frigid jackal]

i took it out

[cyan ravine]

yea try again

[frigid jackal]

the bottom clip didnt go by itself

[cyan ravine]

if you're unsure about the way the ram went in I always just opt for a do over

[frigid jackal]

failure again

[cyan ravine]

interesting

try slots 1 and 3 now

[frigid jackal]

I’m hearing very tiny little voices crunches when I insert them

voices?

i did not type that

autocorrect 💀💀

[cyan ravine]

THE VOICES

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[frigid jackal]

anyway

yeah

reslly tiny crunches

[cyan ravine]

that's ok

try 1 and 3 now

[frigid jackal]

[cyan ravine]

it should clip top and bottom, but not all sticks are created equal

[frigid jackal]

do I push both sides in equally

ir top first

then bottom

[cyan ravine]

some just, their tolerance is still good enough but they a chungus really

[cyan ravine]

ye

[frigid jackal]

[cyan ravine]

it should click top and bottom

[frigid jackal]

didnt fly out this time

seems normal

just telling me to do 2 and 4 instead

[cyan ravine]

yeah ignore that

try xmp now

[frigid jackal]

this worked

didnt show error

[cyan ravine]

is it 3200 tho

are you sure

[frigid jackal]

yeah

[cyan ravine]

ok

dead slot

or borked slot really

[cyan ravine]

turn it off now

[frigid jackal]

would it not have warned me when I entered bios the first time?

turn off xmp?

[cyan ravine]

no

leave on

try 2 OR 4 slot now

[frigid jackal]

kk

[lunar bone]

[cyan ravine]

ye looking like it

lately I feel most pretty serious pc issues seem to come from prebuilts

which is understandable due to transport

[frigid jackal]

saved and exit and it wont display rn

[cyan ravine]

it won't?

oh hold on

wait until it tries all the way to bios

[frigid jackal]

it said save and exit then restart?

[cyan ravine]

ye

that's fine

[frigid jackal]

led flickering back n forth between smthn rn

[cyan ravine]

cpu and dram

ah

ok

[frigid jackal]

yeah

do Injust wait?

[cyan ravine]

yes

until it comes back to bios that it failed

still going?

[frigid jackal]

yea

[cyan ravine]

it's failed

ok

not dead slot

something else

[frigid jackal]

hip hip

hooray

[cyan ravine]

gimme a sec let me verify something

ok

so what ima say is you should probably take up warranty here with nzxt if you're not confident with taking a pc apart

it's not giving you the advertised 3200

this could be either the board is just a bad same or something is wrong with the cpu imc

I really doubt 2 or 4 sticks of ram are faulty but you could keep trying to shuffle them to maybe see

[frigid jackal]

i got butter fingers lol would not be able to do that

tbh

might just leave jt at that

turn off xmp

[cyan ravine]

yeah something isn't right imo

xmp off is a huge perf drop

[frigid jackal]

could I keep it on and not have any issues is my question though

[cyan ravine]

as it looks like at this stage no

something is wrong

[runic seal]

Is this a channel for parts?

Like help

[frigid jackal]

so if its off its just 2666mhz

or whatever it was at before

[cyan ravine]

yep

[runic seal]

I just need help on finding a Power supply that works with my build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KQFQL9

[cyan ravine]

but 2666 with slow af timings

[frigid jackal]

ngl

[cyan ravine]

so it's a lot worse than 3200 xmp

[frigid jackal]

I have 2x16gb in my pc at 2666mhz because of my motherboard

[cyan ravine]

I would personally take that up as a warranty claim tbh

[cyan ravine]

yeah but b760m supports 3200

[frigid jackal]

and I’ve been running games like tarkov pretty well

[cyan ravine]

either you haven't tried playing out of jedec or your 2666 kit is an xmp lol

[frigid jackal]

yo ngl I would too but w/ a mom that isn’t tech savvy whatsoecer

and mexican

[cyan ravine]

jedec off is slow, you get mad stutters

[frigid jackal]

I’m scared to do warranty

[cyan ravine]

I suspect it's honestly the cpu

I haven't known any 12th gen or newer to not do 3200 out of the box

it's supported by default

if it doesn't run that, it's faulty

by spec definition

[frigid jackal]

going to leave it for now with xmp off

[cyan ravine]

alr

[frigid jackal]

will discuss and decide w/ mother at a later date

or if I become confident enough

I’ll come back and ask for assistance with whatevr

and by butter fingers

I also mean

[cyan ravine]

try and aim to get it done before the year warranty is up, cos they won't help you after that

[frigid jackal]

sausage fingers

i think

[frigid jackal]

yep

bad exp with nzxt so far

my build is from late 2020

[cyan ravine]

prebuilts really in general aren't great

[frigid jackal]

they neevr responded to emails about the fire prone psu yhey gave me

[cyan ravine]

it's better to learn to build

the h1????

wait

HOLD ONE

HOLD UP

[flint sapphire]

I mean prebuilts are fineeee

[cyan ravine]

ARE YOU STILL USING THAT RISER CABLE

[frigid jackal]

nahhh

[cyan ravine]

oh good

phew

[frigid jackal]

i switched everything w/ the psu

[cyan ravine]

good

[frigid jackal]

but if I were to have been using it still

what wouldve happened

hust curious

this sounds like one of those cliche

movie moments LMAOO

[flint sapphire]

Small house fire potentially

[cyan ravine]

the riser shorts to the case, and can create a lot of heat, leading to a house fire yeah

they had a bandaid fix but they should have responded to you

that's disgusting

for future reference lad

NZXT really in general

not great lmao

[flint sapphire]

Aesthetics tho

[cyan ravine]

not even

[flint sapphire]

Like 8/10

Excuse you

[cyan ravine]

bruh they copy everyone else

[flint sapphire]

White out and blacked out boards tho

[cyan ravine]

only thing they did original was the toilet case

[frigid jackal]

Ngl

[cyan ravine]

freaking urinal cake h5

[flint sapphire]

What about the cable hiding sheet metal

[cyan ravine]

[frigid jackal]

I wasn’t too sure whether or not my psy was the one that caught fire

[cyan ravine]

oh yeah, did you know bequiet is copying that now

[frigid jackal]

it was like 11 months into owning it w/ no problems

[flint sapphire]

[frigid jackal]

and I looked it up rn and apparently I bought it 6 months after their statement abt the fires

[flint sapphire]

Be quiet is untouchable because of the long boi screwdriver

[cyan ravine]

also that's not NZXT's idea, that's from the guy who heads up Hyte now

[frigid jackal]

so maybe I replaced it for no reason

[cyan ravine]

it wasn't the psu, it's the riser

but you replaced the riser

[frigid jackal]

oh yeah

[cyan ravine]

so all is well

[frigid jackal]

don’t think it mattered if i did or not is what I’m saying

[cyan ravine]

oh the psu? probably

[frigid jackal]

no no

like the riser

bc

I bought it months after their statement abt it

[cyan ravine]

depends

if it had plastic screws holding it in

yes it didn't really

if it had metal screws

NOPE

[frigid jackal]

anyways

I have the 4 sticks in

should I do the jumpers

ir just boot and go to bios and turn off xmp for now

[cyan ravine]

do the jumpers

pc off when you do so btw

[frigid jackal]

tep

taking out all peripherals too

[cyan ravine]

don't need to worry about that part

lol

hold the power button with the pc off for 10 seconds

that's really it

[frigid jackal]

fr?

intel website said to do it lol

maybe just

[cyan ravine]

i've never done that

[frigid jackal]

an extra precaution

[cyan ravine]

actually no

that's a lie

I USED to do it

years ago

[frigid jackal]

😭

[cyan ravine]

I never do it now

if you hold the power button it drains power from the whole system

much easier

[frigid jackal]

is there any way to check jn task manager if its using all sticks?

unless its completely ruled out that one is dead or a slot is frad

[cyan ravine]

it'll say 32gb

it's just about completely ruled out dead slot

more sus it's board to cpu rn

all 4 sticks booted to 3200 iirc

and not just, did so straight away

in fact suggestion @frigid jackal

if you can get the chance

[frigid jackal]

anyone else think the idea of wifi attenas are kinda silly

[cyan ravine]

try a 2x16gb kit of 3200 ram

[frigid jackal]

sure

will get the ones from my pc

also

[cyan ravine]

I just remembered, if it's board layout, then it may actually just hate the idea of 4 sticks

[cyan ravine]

restart

and wait for it to load to windows all the way

otherwise you'll trigger drive repair

[frigid jackal]

hmmmm

dont think I did anything last time

oh acrually

yeah I did

I had the pc still on top of my desk, turned it on to see if it worked with all four sticks again

saw it went to the screen and immediately powered off

lol

we chillin

[cyan ravine]

?

screen?

[frigid jackal]

like uhhh

the screen where u click to go into the password thing

[cyan ravine]

login

[frigid jackal]

yeahhh

[cyan ravine]

lmao

[frigid jackal]

basicallt

[cyan ravine]

at 3200??

[frigid jackal]

it was mt bad

wait

[cyan ravine]

....

[frigid jackal]

nah

what it was at b4

[cyan ravine]

ok

[frigid jackal]

lmaooo

imagine it just worked

randomly

wouldve been crazy (😞)

coping rn

[cyan ravine]

lmao

[frigid jackal]

Anyway

thanks for the help

will be back soon perhaps

[cyan ravine]

alr

[frigid jackal]

man im tripping so hard

that I tripped and my mouse fell

ok bye

[lunar bone]

Hey felix

You remember the build you put together for me?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cc4GVW

If I had a few extra $ to spend, what should I change out? Lets say $50-100 more. Like maybe some better cooling/aesthetics

[cyan ravine]

Iirc from searching, a lot of those things were lucky finds

If you can manage a gpu upgrade to like a 6950xt then sure

But otherwise I wouldn't really bother with it tbh

Buy a 50-100$ keyboard?

Keychron C1 brown switch is kinda nice

[lunar bone]

Im not buying the gpu at the moment, I have an rx590 to go with the build

Could put the money towards that though

[cyan ravine]

Mm

That's what I'd maybe do, if you want a peripheral upgrade

Good monitor could be doable for 200

[lunar bone]

Yeah I could go with a keyboard change

[cyan ravine]

#peripherals-and-displays is the better place to ask for the usual recommendations

[lunar bone]

I have the g pro x superlight so the mouse is good

[cyan ravine]

Ah yeah superlight I'd keep

Good mouse pad?

[lunar bone]

Decent, although small, because I dont have a lot of desk space available

But yeah Ill go to #peripherals-and-displays if ill be going with a new keyboard

[cyan ravine]

There are a few good small options

You can also consider a desk pad to cover under keeb* too

[lunar bone]

Although I kinda want to switch out the ram for something a bit more aesthetically pleasing

[cyan ravine]

If you can match the xmp for a couple more euros go for it

I will say avoid corsair if possible but if it's the cheapest then it's arguably ok

[lunar bone]

Alright good to know

[cyan ravine]

There are a lot of brands

Silicon power

Adata xpg

Patriot viper

G.skill ripjaws or trident z (iffy with the latter)

Corsair vengeance/dominator (avoid as much as possible)

Teamforce deltas/vulcans (great)

Teamforce t-create (excellent)

[lunar bone]

Okay okay

Will check

[cyan ravine]

V color are great

Like always great

Their entire lineup afaik is hynix

Could be wrong but they clearly state the type of ram it uses and hynix is what you you want

[lunar bone]

Ahh teamforce or team group?

[cyan ravine]

They can be very good yeah

Just make sure you match the xmp

5600 CL32

6000 CL30

6400 CL32

Aim for one of those primarily

5600 CL28 also excellent

But that's ripjaws only iirc

[lunar bone]

Okay will look for some great deals, thanks

[cyan ravine]

Np, the CL numbers just confirm that it's good ram

Means the system will run faster than other kits and the resale on it will be better in a few years (hynix is a bit coveted)

[lunar bone]

What about cl40 lmao

[cyan ravine]

CL40 is a massive pass

It's literally anything

[lunar bone]

Haha figured that. Alrighty

[cyan ravine]