building-and-recc-chat

[cyan ravine]

so you paid 150 for this 3060 ye?

[scarlet rampart]

Hp logo lol

[scarlet rampart]

well 300 but gave him 150 for now

[cyan ravine]

so 3060's go for 300 new

make of that what you will

[fossil cedar]

I think your friend turned the 3060 upside, read it upside down but flipped the 3 in their head

Or they scammed you

[cyan ravine]

nah

300 for a 3060 isn't really a scam

[runic spruce]

I mean it’s not much of a scam

He only payed 150 out of 300

[cyan ravine]

it's a new price? a bit gross

[potent portal]

And that's the 2 fan models

[cyan ravine]

but up to him to take that up if he thinks he deserves it for better

[fossil cedar]

Well scam is a bit harsh but 300 for a 2nd hand 3060 is gross

[cyan ravine]

yes

it's a bit gross

but we are well aware this isn't a 3090 tho lol

[runic spruce]

Oh nvm

I thought he paid for the whole pc

[fossil cedar]

Glad i asked for a pic now

[scarlet rampart]

No i have my own pc he js sold me the gpu

so finding out what card it is, is accomplished. Whats next guys.

[runic spruce]

Just out of curiosity but did task manager not show u what the gpu was? Nvm again

[cyan ravine]

try the second pcie slot if you have one

with the gpu

[cyan ravine]

he can't even get that far yet

[scarlet rampart]

Sadly

[scarlet rampart]

Only have one

[cyan ravine]

oof

ok

does your old gpu still work in the slot?

[scarlet rampart]

Yes

It turns on with my old

One

[cyan ravine]

hmmm

what's the pcie spec of your motherboard

do you know?

[scarlet rampart]

nope

But i have the motherboard box if that helps

B560m ds3h

Gigabyte

[cyan ravine]

ok pcie 4.0 works on that board

idea

put the old gpu back in

go to bios

find your pcie speed of your "PCIE_16 x1" slot

set it to 2.0

[scarlet rampart]

Ok one sec

[fossil cedar]

Wait, what cpu

[fossil cedar]

Only with 11th gen tho

[cyan ravine]

ye true

that could be the underlying problem

but setting to 2.0 would find that

[fossil cedar]

True true

[runic spruce]

If that doesn’t work, i think the card might be bricked bc there’s no backplate on it and static n stuff. Just guessing tho- I might be wrong

[fossil cedar]

Static hasn't been an issue for like 15+ years

Linus literally has an issue of touching ram putting like 100v through him or something and it works just fine

[scarlet rampart]

What was the keybind again

For bios

F something

[cyan ravine]

delete

[fossil cedar]

Usually del or f2 /f12

[potent portal]

He brought the static guy to zap parts too https://youtu.be/1ugJ1BJx0HE?si=FOyP49j-TIojm1bu

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i could picture him just blanked on his name

[scarlet rampart]

Ok

So

It says please select boot device

Windows boot or enter setup

[fossil cedar]

Sounds like you missed the bios entry

[potent portal]

Whatever key it says for "enter setup" will get you into bios

If it says one

[cyan ravine]

with the gpu in???

[scarlet rampart]

Yes my old gpu

[cyan ravine]

ah

enter setup

[scarlet rampart]

Ok im in

Where would i go

Tweaker settings system info or boot

[cyan ravine]

you'll have to look around

it might be in boot, could be in settings

[runic spruce]

Look for something that says pcie

[scarlet rampart]

Ok

Got it

Says

Pciex16 : pcie 3.0 x16 @ 1.0 x16

[cyan ravine]

at 1.0??

oh wait

it's idle

that's probably why

set it to 1.0

or 2.0

then save exit

[scarlet rampart]

Doesnt give me a option to change

[cyan ravine]

it doesn't?

[cyan ravine]

oh not the right menu lol

[scarlet rampart]

Trying to find it

I js cant find it

[cyan ravine]

look under settings

go to like

the first or second menus and search in there

it'll be somewhere around there

sorry it's been a while since I used a gigabyte bios

[runic spruce]

Btw after u do find it and made sure the gpu works. Change it back so your gpu won’t be limited on bandwidth

[cyan ravine]

ye

you'd likely switch it to 3.0 later

but 2.0 and 1.0 we could check for slot issues

[scarlet rampart]

Would it pc cpu pcie link speed

[cyan ravine]

yes

[scarlet rampart]

I see a pch pcie link speed

[cyan ravine]

set the pcie x16 speed

to 1.0 or 2.0

it'll be around in that section somewhere

[runic spruce]

Wait a minute

[scarlet rampart]

there an option for auto gen1 gen2 or gen 3

[cyan ravine]

gen 1 for now

[runic spruce]

@scarlet rampart did u plug in the 8 pin cable on the side

On the 3060

[cyan ravine]

set to gen 3 later

ok set gen 1

save and exit

then power the pc right off when it turns back on again

[runic spruce]

The one u bought

[cyan ravine]

take the old gpu out, put the new one in, try with it all plugged in

[scarlet rampart]

Oh damn

I aint even notice that

[runic spruce]

Ain’t no way

[scarlet rampart]

He aint give me no cable

…

[runic spruce]

😭😭😭

[scarlet rampart]

So that was the problem?😭😭😭

[runic spruce]

I’d assume yes

[cyan ravine]

wait it wasn't plugged in??

[runic spruce]

I saw it in the beginning but I didn’t a question it

[cyan ravine]

LMAO

[runic spruce]

Omfg can’t believe we all missed that

[cyan ravine]

hahahaha

I thought it was

I looked at it

and like

with every pc full of black cables

"looks good"

[runic spruce]

Bro I thought he was just showing the gpu off

[cyan ravine]

oh it's the damn motherboard pattern

it looks like half the cable

LOL

[scarlet rampart]

☠️

[runic spruce]

@scarlet rampart dude your power supply should have the cable

Maybe

[cyan ravine]

SHOULD

omg a psu without a pcie cable

would be tragic

worse than those flex atx units

[scarlet rampart]

Time to open up my pc case even more

[cyan ravine]

@scarlet rampart look for a 6+2 plug

or cable

[scarlet rampart]

I have a 600w gold power supply

[cyan ravine]

6 pins plus 2

[scarlet rampart]

It should have it right?

[cyan ravine]

yeah it would

100%

[runic spruce]

I’m going to sleep, I’ve lost brain cells from this

[scarlet rampart]

Lemme check the back

[scarlet rampart]

Thanks bro

😂

[runic spruce]

Np

[cyan ravine]

can't believe the motherboard pulled the army camo trick on me

made me think it had power

smh

so when you plug it in

make sure the pc is off

but if it comes on after that

excellent

set your gen 1 back to gen 3

then save and reboot

[scarlet rampart]

???

This one

[cyan ravine]

no

[scarlet rampart]

Oh

[cyan ravine]

that's 4+4

you want 6+2

[scarlet rampart]

Can u send a layout for reference

[cyan ravine]

it'll say like

GPU

or pcie

on the side

[scarlet rampart]

Bingo

Pci-e

?

[cyan ravine]

ye pcie

plug all 8 pins into the gpu

make sure it's lined up properly

and not kinda in

[scarlet rampart]

Ok

Hold up

Putting it bac in

I have like 4 of them

[cyan ravine]

just use one

[scarlet rampart]

Does it matter which one

[cyan ravine]

the one closest to the psu as far as the cable goes

if it can reach

[scarlet rampart]

Ok

Then i turn it on?

Felix

I love you bro

IT TURNED ON

alright if u dont mind sending me the direct link to download the drivers

Would i need to do that

[cyan ravine]

google nvidia drivers

it's like

the first link and it's an nvidia website

[cyan ravine]

remember, flip back in the bios, the gen 1 we changed

back to gen 3

it makes a difference

[scarlet rampart]

what series would it be

[cyan ravine]

30 series

3060

desktop not mobile

[scarlet rampart]

theres

30 series (notebook) or js 30 series

whats the difference

[cyan ravine]

just 30 series

notebook is mobile

[scarlet rampart]

alri bro its downloading and then change it back to gen 3

appreciate your help bro

[cyan ravine]

yep

then you're good

[scarlet rampart]

have a nice night dude

[cyan ravine]

[leaden mauve]

Just added these lol

[lone flame]

@cyan ravine this was my list

[analog hearth]

just get the black/RGB-less versions of each part

[cyan ravine]

@lone flame still would do this

if not go for a cheaper single tower

like

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q6H7YJ/thermalright-assassin-x-120-refined-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120-se-d3

and ditch the fans that come with the case, stick the c12c's in

you can also do cable replacements for the psu

sleeved cables, it would look quite good imo

[analog hearth]

What case is that?

[leaden mauve]

Corsair 900D

[analog hearth]

I see. Did you cut some of the front off to make that mod?

[leaden mauve]

There's no mod

There are front bay panels i can pop out

[analog hearth]

ahhh gotcha

I wish we still had 5.25" bays

[proven salmon]

Hay im changing my aio cooler but after unscrewing everything it still doesn’t come off should I pull hard or is there a trick to it

[mossy venture]

The paste might be stuck, you could turn the pc on to heat it up rq, turn it back off and turn take it off

[dusky hearth]

twist the cooler and what may help

[cyan ravine]

ryzen?

[dusky hearth]

if you have a ryzen cpu on the am4 socket or earlier, you may pull the whole cpu out with it

💀

"where did the cpu go"

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[proven salmon]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

yeah it happens

suggestion

put it back together

run the pc doing a cpu test for like

10 minutes

let it warm the paste up

then switch it back off, try take it off again

[proven salmon]

Can I use a hair dryer?

[cyan ravine]

give it a tiny twist

uh

idk maybe

might hurt the aio pump

[proven salmon]

Im replacing it so I don’t really care about the pump

[cyan ravine]

don't break it 💀

you might be able to sell it

[proven salmon]

Should I warm it from the back of the motherboard or the side?

[cyan ravine]

oh god idk

it was your idea

I'd do the cpu test lmao

measure twice cut once as they always say

[proven salmon]

I really don’t want to break my cpu but I really don’t want to put everything back

[cyan ravine]

I get that man

but it's ryzen

and it's doing a ryzen thing

if you want to minimise the risk, I'd do a proper job of it

[proven salmon]

You right

[leaden mauve]

Ikr

Ikr

Ok discord

[leaden mauve]

@analog hearth

I like the utility they have

A lot of different uses

[analog hearth]

I just want a screen on my O11

[cyan ravine]

old phone works

[proven salmon]

Got it off 🫡

[cyan ravine]

reheat worked?

[proven salmon]

No actually what happened was when I put the screws on. the top came off so I just pulled and twisted

[cyan ravine]

LOL

[proven salmon]

What can I use to take all the thermal paste off

[cyan ravine]

nice

[proven salmon]

Got lucky

[cyan ravine]

anything that's not like, aloe vera tissues

plain tissue paper, paper towels

[proven salmon]

Alr thx

[cyan ravine]

isopropyl alcohol

iso wipes

combo of some or others

all works

just make sure you get everything up off it

and be careful how you hold the cpu

[proven salmon]

Oh I’m taking the cpu out only the aio

Im not

[cyan ravine]

you should clean both if the paste has been on there more than a couple days

and make a fresh application

[proven salmon]

Alr

[limber oyster]

Welp, RIP to my big rig

[pseudo pollen]

what did you do to it?

[crimson zinc]

Made love to it*

[pseudo pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-mcdo-gif-26175141

[limber oyster]

Having to sell it

[pseudo pollen]

Nooo

[crimson zinc]

…because you made love to it.

[crimson zinc]

@cyan ravine or @obsidian wigeon I need one of you for laptop questions

[limber oyster]

Yeah

[void mango]

how do i put a 280 mm aio in here (not a new build just new case) its a 5000d airflow rgb

[limber oyster]

Thin radiator and fans

[obsidian wigeon]

that side panel has to go

[void mango]

i removed it, i put it on top?

as exhausting

[onyx oxide]

Hi everyone! I'm still a little new to computers and wanted other peoples opinion. I recently got myself an NZXT computer and gave my old computer to my wife. Recently she's been getting more and more into PC gaming and I wanted to give her an upgrade. I was hoping to get some ideas and price points to start looking around. Here are her specs currently, Thanks in advance!

So far I need new CPU cooler, because the one she has now looks like it got custom made in some shop, and RAM. But I'm clueless for graphics card and if I should upgrade the CPU.

[obsidian wigeon]

you should upgrade all theee

ram, cpu, gpu

[flint sapphire]

Ram imo you can hold off on

[obsidian wigeon]

Ryzen 5 5600 would be good

gpu to something like rx 6600 for starters

gotta figure out what's the psu inside the pc tho

[flint sapphire]

I’m guessing it’ll probably be a 550watt

[onyx oxide]

Correct. Kratos M1 550 to be precise

[obsidian wigeon]

ah gamdias

unfortunately it's a low quality unit

i wouldn't trust a more powerful gpu on those

[onyx oxide]

Of course it is... It was a prebuilt I bought a while ago and the company is now no more so I can't exactly work with them to see if they would have deals or anything for upgrading

[obsidian wigeon]

cheapest psu you can get without risk of failure is apevia prestige

[onyx oxide]

Ok. So a PSU, GPU, and CPU.... any sales happening? lol

[obsidian wigeon]

lemme dig pcpp real quick

[onyx oxide]

That would be amazing! thank you so much

[obsidian wigeon]

if you don't mind tiktok, Newegg has amazing deals over there

[onyx oxide]

Really? Seems like a weird place to have them but I'll definitely take a look

[obsidian wigeon]

newegg has been promoting their tiktok from what im seeing

gpu I would say an rx 6600 is all one needs for getting into gaming

cpu, 5600

[onyx oxide]

Would it at all be cost efficient to just sell the one we have now and just purchase a new one? That's also been floated around in our talks. But with such lowend stuff, I thought getting the pieces would be easier

[obsidian wigeon]

you could sell the gpu and cpu

but you wouldn't even see $100 outta em

so yeah, not worth it

[onyx oxide]

I also saw an RX 6500 XT for 120

[obsidian wigeon]

oh the whole pc, well

it's probably $200 at most

6500xt is kinda bad

running it on a pcie 3.0 platform would be a bottleneck

[onyx oxide]

Ok, that's why I come to ask before just going "Big number means good" lol

[obsidian wigeon]

it has a measly amount of 4 pcie lanes

6500xt is slower than 570

fyi

[flint sapphire]

The good old 6500xt

[tawny raven]

is the i7 10700 too slow if i drop a a770 in my pc

[obsidian wigeon]

no

[onyx oxide]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NWZZXHQ?th=1 <<< This one @obsidian wigeon ?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

there's 600w version tho

probably out of stock

hm, there's segptep 80+ gold for 59

i'd go for it

[onyx oxide]

I was actually able to find one for 51.99

[tawny raven]

what about a 4070ti

[onyx oxide]

https://www.amazon.com/Apevia-ATX-PR600W-Prestige-Certified-Compliance/dp/B07NWZQX1J/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1YCUTYY72YT4I&keywords=apevia+prestige+600w&qid=1704344710&s=electronics&sprefix=Apevia+%2Celectronics%2C104&sr=1-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc

[obsidian wigeon]

4070ti, still ok if you run 1440p

[tawny raven]

i have 1080p 144hz monitor

[onyx oxide]

Recommendation for CPU Cooler/paste?

[obsidian wigeon]

then 4070ti will definitely be too fast

[tawny raven]

so then whats the highest i should go without wasting money a 4070?

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q6H7YJ/thermalright-assassin-x-120-refined-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120-se-d3

use the paste with the cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

something like a 4070 yes

[tawny raven]

would a 430 watt psu be enough if i get a 4070. i have 430 watt with the 10700 with power limits unlocked and a arc a750 and i dont have any issues with crashing

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

tbh you're constantly risking it with just 430w

but yeah, you can with the 4070 stock

it should not consume more than 200w

[tawny raven]

the highest i seen my cpu get is 150 watts and i think gpu like 180 watts

[obsidian wigeon]

id suggest a psu upgrade in the future

as soon as you can

[tawny raven]

like 550?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

or the apevia prestige

cheap as it gets

[tawny raven]

i have that one too

its good but the double fan one

i was getting 100c with single fan

[plucky timber]

how

[tawny raven]

idk only in the cinebench testing

[plucky timber]

oh

[tawny raven]

but the double fan one i get 75c

[plucky timber]

cinebench stresses the cpu out

it doesn't reflect real world workloads

in normal use cases the cpu won't get that hot

[tawny raven]

my cpu is older

maybe thats why

[plucky timber]

no

[obsidian wigeon]

10700 is toasty

the assassin x single fan ain't enough

[plucky timber]

He was using cinebench tho

so even despite the fact the 10700 is toasty

realistically it shouldn't reach 100c in other workloads

[honest anchor]

Hello anyone have tried the MSI b650m-p? Is yes is it enough for 7600x??? Pls advise.

[obsidian wigeon]

don't get 7600x, get 7600, and pair it with asrock pro rs a620m

[honest anchor]

Apparently msib650m-p already bought from a friend

☹️

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

for how much?

the board is fine

just that it's not worth the price

[honest anchor]

It was 100$

[obsidian wigeon]

ok

[potent portal]

Any board should work with a 7600/7600X, they don't draw too much power

[obsidian wigeon]

that's great

is 7600x bought already?

7600 is the same cpu

tbh the whole am5 stack of boards with adequate cooling will handle anything

b650m-p in particular will work perfectly up to 7800x3d

[potent portal]

The most a gamer should buy is the 7800X3D and that barely pulls any power so yeah

[honest anchor]

Hes thinking whether with x or non x version

[potent portal]

Whichever is cheaper, but keep in mind non X comes with a cooler and X doesn't

[obsidian wigeon]

7600x is only worth it if it's cheaper

[honest anchor]

I was thinking about the VRM on the board.

[obsidian wigeon]

it's bland, but for $100

it's a fine deal

$25 more and you would get wifi and better board, but it's ok

[honest anchor]

7600 it is then

[potent portal]

The 7600 chips could run on a 6 phase vrm no sweat, so anything with 8+ with or without a heatsink on the vrm is fine

[honest anchor]

Will it be ok with 7800xt?

[potent portal]

The motherboard doesn't care about the GPU

As long as it's newer than a GTX 750

[obsidian wigeon]

4070 and 7800xt are same price currently

[honest anchor]

No i mean pair with 7600

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

it's perfectly good

[honest anchor]

We were eyeing on this

[obsidian wigeon]

small white fee

not bad

[honest anchor]

Nice

[obsidian wigeon]

sapphire is one of the best amd aibs

[honest anchor]

Ye we looked up unfortunately 4070 not on sale in our area.

[obsidian wigeon]

7800xt is better anyway

more vram

[honest anchor]

R5 7600 and 7800xt it is then

Anymore recommendations for white cases?

We were going for montech air 100 or pop mini air

[potent portal]

I'd lean towards the pop personally

But I'm a fractal design shill

[obsidian wigeon]

montech air 100 for cheap's sake

but i also am a fractal design shill

so pop if you have cash

[crimson zinc]

@obsidian wigeon what’s a good gaming laptop

For mid-tier gaming, but also schoolwork

[obsidian wigeon]

tuf a16 on best buy

if you wanna save money then the refurb laptops that bacca posted

[crimson zinc]

Does the a16 have a good battery life?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

it's pretty stellar

you can disable the dgpu

[crimson zinc]

Is there a possible way to find one with an RGB keyboard

Like the 17?

[obsidian wigeon]

the a16 has backlit, but it's white

[crimson zinc]

Then may I ask for some specific details to help find the right one

[obsidian wigeon]

sure

i mean the cheapest one atm is the refurb acer predator with 13500hx

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-aorus-15-6-144hz-gaming-laptop-fhd-intel-i5-13500h-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4050-512gb-ssd-black/6534579.p?skuId=6534579

there's also this, but it needs ram upgrade

8gb wouldn't cut it

[crimson zinc]

Sorry, was in shower

Fiancé needs; good battery when not on charger, lighter than 6lbs(due to OI), and be able to handle schoolwork and games.

And she wants RGB keys. She had an OLD Alienware 14

[obsidian wigeon]

rgb and 6 pounds

[crimson zinc]

She fell in love with the key colouring

[obsidian wigeon]

well you're looking to spend more tbf

[crimson zinc]

Not a problem

[obsidian wigeon]

alright, lemme look around

so rgb and light

[crimson zinc]

[obsidian wigeon]

okay, looks like the tuf a16 is 4.16 pounds, but yeeeeah

no rgb

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-slim-5-16-gaming-laptop-wuxga-ryzen-5-7640hs-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-8gb-512gb-ssd-storm-grey/6534469.p?skuId=6534469

boop

oof small batt

60wh

[crimson zinc]

I was just about to say

[honest anchor]

Ok il go for pop then, the mini looks so nice

[obsidian wigeon]

https://a.co/d/7e5OTfd

so far nitro 16 is your best bet

big batt

ryzen

has mux

ah heck, its 6 pounds

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-g14-14-165hz-gaming-laptop-qhd-amd-ryzen-9-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-512gb-ssd-moonlight-white/6535495.p?skuId=6535495

[dim forge]

Guys

[obsidian wigeon]

@crimson zinc look at this one

not too fond of 1440p but eh

[dim forge]

Would u pick a 12450H over a 1235U laptop? It’s for college and I would only play league of legends on it lol

[cyan ravine]

I would very much prefer the power if I needed it

Then step the laptop down for battery life later

But depends on the price

[dim forge]

Power meaning?

[cyan ravine]

Power

MT performance

STONKS

THORS ENERGY

THE MIGHTY UNBENDABLE WILL OF 1000 SUNS

[dim forge]

They cost the same, but the 12450H laptop (acer aspire 5) has a bit better build quality that the 1235U (lenovo ideapad 1)

[cyan ravine]

POWERRRRR

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[dim forge]

The acer one also has usb c charging port

[cyan ravine]

Those are both decent choices afaik but I'd go objectively better in a dollar for dollar situation

[dim forge]

hmm price diff is like 20 bucks, with 1235U being cheaper

I’m just too unsure

Bc I’m also worried that I might feel buyers remorse 😭

[cyan ravine]

I'd pick objectively better

In thin n lites you go best bang for the buck hands down imo

If they have a ryzen option GET IT, because ryzen battery life is >>>>>

[dim forge]

cuz I’d like a laptop with a dedicated gpu but that would just go over my budget, and there is no need for a laptop with a gpu since I alrdy have a desktop pc

[dim forge]

I know, but they dont have any 7530U laptop

Just 7520U which I’ve been told is pretty mediocre and worse than 5500U

ugh I hte being poor and having to worry about making the right choice in a 400usd laptop

[cyan ravine]

Oooo

7520?

Ah, yeah, 5500u would be better

Well I mean, 12450h still runs on TSMC process

Just you need to play with settings to pull the efficiency curve out of it

Unlike ryzen

12450h I'd put in the same tier as like

Or 6600h

Yeah 6600h-ish

With more multithread and worse battery

[dim forge]

Like to not overheat and drain my battery life?

[cyan ravine]

Mhm

Throttlestop if it works

Or control panel power plan

Things like armoury crate have it built in too

[dim forge]

Okay okay

[cyan ravine]

Idk if acer has oem software

[dim forge]

Well I think I’ll pick the aspire 5 with the 12450H

I just hope

[obsidian wigeon]

acer has software too

[cyan ravine]

It should be fine

[dim forge]

There won’t be a laptop deal in like

A week

bc it happened twice with my desktop pc

I bought my 2060 for 189usd only for 6600 to drop down to 179 a month later

And I bought an overpriced 12100F and a month later a 12600KF went down to 160 😭😭

At least this is a laptop and I know for a fact I won’t get a better deal at least in local stores

Thank you felix

[cyan ravine]

All g

[timid hill]

do you guys have recommendations for am5 motherboards?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

a620m pro rs wifi

or the b650 version if it's the same price

[cyan ravine]

A620m pro rs wifi
A620m gaming x
A620i ax
B650 hdv/m.2 (if at $125)
B650m pro rs wifi (if at $125)

Anything more is evaporative spending on AM5, all you lose with A620 is cpu OC and for X3D it's locked anyway and does barely anything on non-X3D

[timid hill]

ok

ty

[cyan ravine]

Np

[rugged sparrow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vb82z6

Kind of scuffed but friend wants a decent computer under 2000 CAD

prices are in USD in the link

[mossy venture]

I'd change all of that

Also there's a Canadian pcpartpicker

Give me like 10min, doing smthn

[rugged sparrow]

i’m outdated of all computer parts

so whatever you suggest should be good

[mossy venture]

Is he gaming?

Does he care about aesthetics, does he need wifi

And is he open to an amd gpu

[cyan ravine]

If all they do is blender, is really one of the very few reasons to stick to an nvidia card in 2024

[mossy venture]

Felix pmd is B tier right?

And didn't see the blender part, ty

Wait

Idt he mentioned blender was that just a general statement?

This is first option, can change gpu as wanted.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KwzLbL

[cyan ravine]

What is pmd

Did you pm'd me?

[cyan ravine]

General statement

No blending here

[cyan ravine]

Not a clue what that one is

[mossy venture]

Second option https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/s782z6

[cyan ravine]

Only 1300?

[mossy venture]

Ye pretty nice with a 7800xt

[cyan ravine]

No like

2000 budget

1300?

Lol

[mossy venture]

Wait yeah

I looked at cost of the first pc

[cyan ravine]

Not saying they're bad lists

Lol

[mossy venture]

Not the budget

Yeah nah mb, ima fix the first one up

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3HGgCd

Case can be changed as wanted too

@rugged sparrow

[cyan ravine]

I'd uh

Maybe steer away from atx nova mesh

Matx is good, heard unfavourable things about atx

[mossy venture]

Ah is it that had?

Sips has used it and said it's solid if I remember right, but one sec lemme change it

Actually I'll just link some suggestions
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jD92FT/fractal-design-focus-2-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-03
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/pqzhP6/phanteks-eclipse-g360a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec360atg_dbk02
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/gWFbt6/fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-07

Honorable mentions to 4000d airflow and ap201, id say buyers choice between those 5

[cyan ravine]

Did he? Then I rescind my comment

I trust sips more than others

Here's what I'd do
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DDZ76D

6400 would work cos itx board

But not on matx/atx cos 1dpc vs 2dpc

[rugged sparrow]

thanks, sorry I was in class

[mossy venture]

No you're good, Felix's list is also a great option

Any questions, feel free to ask

[lone flame]

my jaw hit the floor when i saw the gpu price but forgot its ca

[cyan ravine]

I'll jaw drop your floor in a minute

[lyric thistle]

I'll drop your floor jaw in a minute

[cyan ravine]

[mossy venture]

Yeah its about $802, so a noticeable bit higher than us pricing even after converting

[dusky hearth]

i paid $500 for my 6750xt

[fossil cedar]

i paid €700 for my 3070 but then i mined it all back and more and gigglebyte put my caps on with superglue and one fell off so got full refund and copped a 3060ti FE 😎

[dusky hearth]

lmao

[formal mica]

How bad is sagging for a gpu

[fossil cedar]

depends

[formal mica]

Has someone's board actual broke from sagging

Can't tell if it's sagging is real bad or not probably just going to 3d print a support. I'm getting a new case that comes with a gpu support bracket in the coming weeks

[fossil cedar]

nah thats fine you could use with dusting your pc tho

[formal mica]

Not worried about since getting a new case

Cpu fans look great

[cyan ravine]

Yes, there are a lot of cards, particularly from the last 2 nvidia gens, that have died from sag

Memory chip closest to the pcie slot suffers

It's good practice to get an anti-sag support, tho it's not fullproof

Also thats a lot of dust lolol

I remember seeing this pc when it was sparkling new

[formal mica]

it hasnt even been a year since I got to lol

[formal mica]

havent even seen the worst part

[valid nacelle]

Alright I don’t know if the specs are good or bad but here they are

gtx 1060, ryzen 3 3100, 32gb of 3200mhz ram, 550w psu, and a320 motherboard which is ryzen 5th gen ready

[mossy venture]

Um

I dont know what you're asking

Is that a current pc you're looking to upgrade?

Smthn you're looking at to buy?

[valid nacelle]

I’m looking to buy it off of facebook marketplace

It’s really cheap and I’m a brokie so yeah

[mossy venture]

How much?

[lyric thistle]

It's a decent though modest build, it's better than what I have currently that I built for like 500 USD in 2021 I think

[fossil cedar]

you could o do a way better build for 500 now

also a320 is technically 5th gen compatible but it might as well not be its so hit and miss and weird bugs n stuff

if its compatible on an a320 the board manufacturer almost defintely half assed it

[lyric thistle]

I actually don't know how to do a 500 build anymore

Used to do them all the time but now that I want 1080p max settings I'm up to around 900

[formal mica]

Is the rgb on this costumizable at all this is th as rock 7900xtx?

[lyric thistle]

I guess low end 10/11 gen Intel and high end 1000 Nvidia could be a 500 buck build

[fossil cedar]

i mean its not the best but its 500ish and not terrible https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rc9Hn6

[dusky hearth]

it should be, if you have the phantom
the leds are argb and there is even a physical switch to just turn them off if you dont want them

[manic cloak]

windir\Logs\CBS\CBS.log.

uh

my computer found corrupt files there

repaired them

No clue if thats good or..?

[potent portal]

Corrupt files are never good, and that's just where it stores the log that says what it found

[lyric thistle]

Ah but you see fixing corrupt files is good

[potent portal]

If you copy that file (C:/Windows/Logs/CBS/CBS.log) to the desktop and open it in notepad, search for the word "corrupt" and you'll see what it found and what it did.

[dusky hearth]

my windows keeps making corrupt files lmfao

[lyric thistle]

Stonks

[potent portal]

You sure it's windows and not your drive

[cyan ravine]

Bad ram?

[dusky hearth]

probably windows? it's been doing this for quite a while

i mean

[cyan ravine]

Or just bad bluetooth drivers

[dusky hearth]

im running at jedec 💀

[cyan ravine]

My apex pc, it will occasionally give me corrupt errors

Every single time

[lyric thistle]

I'll run you jedec in a minute

[dusky hearth]

though i also have 2 kits for 48gb ram... which also tends to get to like 90% usage lmao

[cyan ravine]

Bluetooth

[dusky hearth]

💀

[cyan ravine]

Every time it's bluetooth

Like

[dusky hearth]

i havent tried reinstalling bluetooth yet

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-what-the-hell-gif-24191318

[lyric thistle]

My PC doesn't have Bluetooth

[cyan ravine]

WHY ALWAYS THE BLUETOOTH THO

[potent portal]

idk what it is but bluetooth is one of the most buggy things that's used daily

[cyan ravine]

I DON'T EVEN TURN IT ON

IT JUST DECIDES TO SUICIDE EVERY DATE NIGHT

[dusky hearth]

☠️

[potent portal]

That's starting to sound like "it's not you it's me"

[lyric thistle]

Computer is jealous you're spending time with your significant other

[cyan ravine]

I've talked about this before tho right?

How wireless drivers have bricked my installs?

It's just another strike to the wireless category here

[potent portal]

You need a new wireless chipset

[cyan ravine]

Bruh I need to upgrade my whole country really

Still on dial up in some areas around me

*violent fax noises *

[manic cloak]

?

[limber oyster]

Found the downside to this case

No GPU airflow

[crimson zinc]

I always use a Bluetooth adapter

I can never get my MB bt to work

[formal mica]

yea I thanks I just went to the gpu maunfactor and they had something called polychrome sync which let me change colors

[limber oyster]

Mine always works

Asus for the win

[cyan ravine]

Not really an asus thing but anyway lol

[limber oyster]

Every board I've ever used came with wifi/Bluetooth cards

[potent portal]

(knock on wood)
Hopefully it stays working for me, my latest board has been good. Range is a little short but a new antenna can fix that.

[limber oyster]

I shoved my antenna in the case

[cyan ravine]

That almost completely ruins the point of wifi

But ok

Lmfao

[limber oyster]

I mean....I don't notice any downsides....yet

[lyric thistle]

well

my case is the wifi antenna pretty much with my lenovo

[cyan ravine]

You stick your antenna in a metal box, range will definitely be reduced

[limber oyster]

I also use my PC at hotels so.....

[cyan ravine]

Get a lot of interruptions with faraday effects as well

[limber oyster]

I also game with the lid open

[lyric thistle]

two antennas on a wire each mounted on the back and the front of the case under plastic caps

probably better than genuinely putting antennas inside of the case but yeah

[limber oyster]

Imagine soldering the wires to the case and actually using the case as an antenna

[formal mica]

Whats fans(that are RGB) do you think looks the best in the O11 vision black?

[cyan ravine]

B12/K12 thermalrights

I'm a fan of minimalism tho

[formal mica]

Oof

[cyan ravine]

Eh? They're good fans

[formal mica]

Not saying they are bad

[cyan ravine]

Noctua A12's but sold cheap and in good colours lol

With rgb too

I suppose if you want more RGB

C12C?

Or more premium

Lian Li P28

[lyric thistle]

they need to bring c12c price to arctic p series

[cyan ravine]

Tho over a B12 isn't much, you pay for daisy chain

[lyric thistle]

I want my cake and eat it

[cyan ravine]

C12C is just all the way better save for lacking pst daisy chain tho

[lyric thistle]

14 bucks for 3 fans

crazy

[formal mica]

what brand

[cyan ravine]

B12? Thermalright

[lyric thistle]

B12and

[cyan ravine]

https://www.thermalright.com/product/tl-b12/

[lyric thistle]

B=B 12=R and=and

[formal mica]

wasnt popping up on amazon

[cyan ravine]

https://www.thermalright.com/product/tl-k12/

K12's are top stuff

Think like, phanteks T30 performance almost

P28 Lian Li is much the same

C12C's just below them

I mean even arctic p12 max isn't half bad value now

P12 max has some acoustic issues tho

[lyric thistle]

unfortunate

I love the 5 blade design

[cyan ravine]

Hey it could be worse

Could be a maglev corsair

Those things are noisy af and terrible airflow

[formal mica]

you know i cant understand why they charge 100 bucks for 3 rgb fans lian li

[lyric thistle]

small loss, it's corsair :)

[cyan ravine]

It's pretty bad

And the fans themselves are mid

[formal mica]

I mean its the Aio also likee 150 to 200

[cyan ravine]

P28+p28 rgb kit would be the best from them imo

[formal mica]

when I can just but thermalright

[cyan ravine]

Ye

Which cpu have you got?

[formal mica]

7700x

[cyan ravine]

Mmm

Probably ok with a frozen edge

Avoid pbo maybe

[formal mica]

to be fair everything im buying is literally a cosmetic upgrade my pc is already built

Yea I was going to do frozen edge

[cyan ravine]

Ye I getchu

Frozen edge is nice af

Not the best for amd, but it's great for a 360mm aio, the price you pay is amazing

[formal mica]

I got no clue how im going to setup in the o11 vision.

[cyan ravine]

The fans themselves are like 12$ each

Run the aio as side intake or outlet

Bottom intake

Back anything tbh

[formal mica]

well im assuming its atleast a little better than my thermalright fan cooler

[cyan ravine]

Ye it would be

I mean in a vision it'd look good

You can resell the other stuff

[formal mica]

thats what I wanna do

but no clue how to do all that

[tawny raven]

which cpu is good for playing youtube videos and sending emails

[cyan ravine]

r/hardwareswap would be where I'd go

[formal mica]

the most basic one there is

[tawny raven]

which one

[cyan ravine]

Just about almost anything nowadays

[formal mica]

theres

dozens of cpus

[cyan ravine]

12100 would be good

5600g

[formal mica]

are you looking to buy a new cpu or just buy a whole computer

[tawny raven]

laptop

[formal mica]

...

just go buy a cheap laptop at walmart

anything will work

for what you are wanting atleast

[cyan ravine]

Chromebook even probably just fine

[formal mica]

They gave us a chrombook at school and it work fine for what you want out of it

[lavish anchor]

Not sure if Im in the right chat, but I just built a computer with my son. Am installing Windows 11, I can get the computer to connect to my wifi as part of the install. Shouldn't the computer automatically know how to serch for networks or may we have done something wrong during the build? Thanks

[formal mica]

but you could also just use a cellphone or a ipad or any electronic for what you are wanting

[formal mica]

drivers

does you motherboard have wifi?

some dont or you need to download the driver off the manufacter website I had to do that for mine

mightve read that wrong

[lavish anchor]

Thanks. Not sure I will check.

[crimson zinc]

I’m just dumb

[earnest olive]

what model motherboard

[timid hill]

is the 3070 a good gpu

im thinking about buying

[mossy venture]

Purely depends on price

[timid hill]

its on ebay rn for 220

[mossy venture]

Yes

[timid hill]

ok

[cyan ravine]

If legit yes

[little osprey]

https://amzn.to/48LoBQ5

[potent portal]

$200 cheaper https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-11322-02-20g/p/N82E16814202429

[cyan ravine]

Sapphire >>>> Asus

easily

[plucky timber]

The EVGA of Radeon

[limber oyster]

If RTX go Asus/EVGA (Depending on generation)
If Radeon go Sapphire

[obsidian wigeon]

asus isn't even the best on nvidia

value wise anyway

[cyan ravine]

Suprim >>>>>>

[cyan ravine]

also this, FE >>>>>>>>>>
tbh

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

fe is the best value

[cyan ravine]

FE cards are really overkill now

didn't used to be that way tho

[obsidian wigeon]

i remember them being meh before

[cyan ravine]

ampere and ada they've come quite good

definitely not the best? but if you're gonna pay into that performance bracket, they are solid

and it's a reluctant recommendation because nvidia is knowingly trying to push towards aib-less cards

the big whinge behind EVGA pulling out (So they say anyway)

[limber oyster]

I'm probably gonna do a Radeon my next GPU upgrade/replacement

Not a fan of Nvidia's newest connector

[dusky hearth]

i mean

some aibs are using the regular old connector

[limber oyster]

Not many in the 4090 tier

And if I'm gonna replace my $1500 3080 rtx (was $1500 when I bought it) with another rtx it's gonna be something worth it. 4080 atleast

But for the price of a 4080, I could get a 7900xtx

[plucky timber]

Doesn't the 7900xtx outperform the 4080

or was it 4070ti

[lone flame]

technically out performs both in some games

[plucky timber]

How the mighty have fallen

[lone flame]

it falls short in raytracing stuff as usual since nvidia is just better for that stuff

if you care about just rasterization and more vram xtx the way to go for that

[plucky timber]

I never use RT despite the fact that I have a 3070

[mossy venture]

Rt on a 3070 would not be a pleasant experience

[lone flame]

if you dont care about the features that nvidia has like dlss and stuff then xtx might be the move

id wait though since nvidia is launching supers in late january

could lower the price on some stuff if they dont be super greedy about it

[potent portal]

Sure but you can't say we're not expecting 7% more performance for 8% more money

I'm pretty sure the price leaks are intentional so nvidia can gauge consumer reaction to the prices and adjust

[pseudo pollen]

4070 ti super might actually be a good deal if it releases at the leaked performance and price

It's like getting a slightly worse 4080 for 4070 ti prices

[thorny loom]

We are talking about nvidia right?

[weary galleon]

Are y'all talking about a specific game here?

I have a 3060ti and (with dlss) it's held up well for the raytracing I've used

Haven't played cyberpunk (or Alan wake 2) but it was more than enough for metro Exodus enhanced edition and is doing ok in the new Avatar game

[mossy venture]

any game ive tried rt in on my 3060 ti has dropped me around 40-80 fps

[weary galleon]

Yeah for Avatar I get around 60 but damn is it beautiful

Medium/high settings and quality (maybe ultra quality I forget) dlss, 1440p monitor

[pseudo pollen]

3070 is about anybody will need in terms of performance for games (imo) like unless you're doing 4k for some reason, there's little gain.

I currently have it, and I can run most games at 70fps ish on absolute max settings 1440p

with another 4k secondary running

[runic spruce]

just preference tbh, but most people prefer 144 fps

[pseudo pollen]

Ngl I can't tell the difference between high and ultra settings

[potent portal]

Many people can't

It's often just subtle changes to shading and shadows

[earnest olive]

Nobody will ever need more than 640KB of memory

[pseudo pollen]

technically yeah, but at least a 3070 is useable

[earnest olive]

you missed the point entirely

[pseudo pollen]

I do that alot

I apologize for my incompetence

[fickle peak]

Can someone help me find a good gaming white pc

[pseudo pollen]

prebuilt?

[fickle peak]

Yes

[pseudo pollen]

not sure if many of those exist

What's your budget?

[fickle peak]

Arround 2k

€

[pseudo pollen]

Which country?

[fickle peak]

or just do not prebuild

Germany

Not prebuild

[pseudo pollen]

prebuilts are usually really bad value

[fickle peak]

custom

[pseudo pollen]

so custom is best

[fickle peak]

yeah try custom

like some custom white pc

[pseudo pollen]

no white gpus in that price range

probably want to add a cooler but it should be fine

with a cooler https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/yMhbVW

[fickle peak]

Thx

[mossy venture]

7800x3d doesn't come with a stock cooler

[pseudo pollen]

oh wait what

[mossy venture]

Nice list though

[mossy venture]

This is the one I made, both are nice choices but at this price diff I'd go with the 4070 ti https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/nyYkbL

Could do a mix of both too

Could spend some more for a white psu, which gives you white cables https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/nFkWGX/msi-mpg-a750gf-white-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a750gf-white

[pseudo pollen]

cable extentions too

[fickle peak]

Thx bro

[plucky timber]

lol I'm not looking to get anything

And besides I don't really have any good upgrade options

laptop 🤷‍♂️

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/ethan-laptop-portable-gaming-laptop-gif-19843599

https://tenor.com/view/laptop-smoking-fire-burning-lag-gif-19373925

[plucky timber]

Yeah I don't really have an option considering that it literally costs more to ship a pc across the pacific

Can't really upgrade it but

🤷‍♂️ priorities

[formal mica]

clean it

[dusky hearth]

Get a better keyboard

[formal mica]

https://goblintechkeys.com/ you can get a new keyboard and mouse pad here thats what i did

[dusky hearth]

And put the glasses in any position except right on the lens

[jade oxide]

more rgb

[formal mica]

What do you guys think I need. I was thinking of putting leds under the monitors since it's really dark in my room?

[tawny raven]

what about the beats case and the bullet

what do we do with that

[jade oxide]

bigger desk mat

[formal mica]

trash it lmao

[tawny raven]

the asian cat too?

[dusky hearth]

I was just about to say to trash it as well lmao

The cat can be the centerpiece

[formal mica]

naw put that on next to the monitor

thats my phone lmao probably the flash

does my man have a budget to fix the setup or was this just jokes to see what we would say lol

[dusky hearth]

Put it on top lmfao

[formal mica]

on top

Like on the monitors or the shelf?

[dusky hearth]

It's not as bad as it sounds

It's those monitor light bars

https://www.amazon.ca/Computer-Monitor-Reading-Gesture-Brightness/dp/B09JKSVQBC/ref=asc_df_B09JKSVQBC/?tag=googlemobshop-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=579055289697&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3216294549972751938&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000802&hvtargid=pla-1640616920627&psc=1&mcid=bf50ec9ded1b3675b8d9c92e0b9924a7

[tawny raven]

thats alternates setup

hes just says its someone else so he feels better about himself

[formal mica]

dood just needs to clean it up a desk thats used often should never get that bad lol

[formal mica]

true lol

[dusky hearth]

Real

[formal mica]

LOL

[dusky hearth]

Damn, you really got your alt account to DM yourself

[tawny raven]

yea thats sounds like the only logical explanation

made a fake account to replicate mine to make me look bad.

[formal mica]

to be fair i just tried to add the dood

No response tho

defiently a alt

Anyone got any recommendtions for bluetooth headphones that dont break in 6 months

[potent portal]

Budget?

[formal mica]

anything just not something 1300 dollars

[tawny raven]

the beats wireless as shown in the setup pic

that one is good

[formal mica]

headphones

earbuds annoy my ears sometimes

[tawny raven]

headphones causes dents in the head tho

[formal mica]

boi

[potent portal]

Nothing ear 2?

[formal mica]

that thing is alrady there loll

been wearing headsets for the past 6 or 7 years lol

[plucky timber]

"dents in the head"

I don't even know how he came to that conclusion

[formal mica]

idk if you could call it a dent but my hair defiently has a handband still on it when I take my headseat off

[obsidian wigeon]

that's just your hair

[formal mica]

well

[plucky timber]

soft rubber/foam pads do not dent a human skull

I feel dumb for having to explain this

[formal mica]

dood

it was a joke atleast to me

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

anyway

[potent portal]

Well, ok if you're going for full strap headphones there's a few questions to ask. What features do you want, like ANC? What sound stage are you looking for?

[obsidian wigeon]

i would check rtings for audio

[formal mica]

ok

lets do this