#building-and-recc-chat

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obsidian wigeon
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nope

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it's just cad

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prices have remained unchanged

cursive wharf
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Maybe Im just remembering mATX as ATX. Cuz mATX isnt death at least

obsidian wigeon
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only micro atx is the cheap option

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$109 for non wifi asrock b650 hdv

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in us that is

cursive wharf
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Also ye thanks

split cliff
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no red lights, still black screen.

I took all ram off and CPU red light was always on

then took one ram stick inside and CPU red light still there

then re applied CPU, red lights are gone, black screen

obsidian wigeon
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tested with cpu reinstalled and ram installed?

split cliff
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yes

obsidian wigeon
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if all else fails, grab a usb drive and update bios

split cliff
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literally everything was working until i did the XMP

obsidian wigeon
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you will need a separate pc tho

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or a laptop

split cliff
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the BIOS is already up to date tho

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unless CMOS reset also put it back to old firmware?

obsidian wigeon
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nope

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it just resets settings

split cliff
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how to usb drive and update bios? i have the usb drive

cursive wharf
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Can also sometimes fix corrupted BIOSes

split cliff
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with the BIOS stuff in it

obsidian wigeon
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is the usb formatted in fat32

split cliff
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yes

obsidian wigeon
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you'll need to download bios for your board, flashback version

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rename it accordingly, all that stuff

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after that you plug it into the usb port outlined in white

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use the flashback button

split cliff
obsidian wigeon
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pc off

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but keep it plugged in

cursive wharf
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With PSU switched on

split cliff
obsidian wigeon
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hold flashback button until you see an led light up

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yeah sure, i don't mind

split cliff
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🙏

cursive wharf
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If that doesnt work, consider unplugging all unessentials for POST

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Storage drives, GPUs, fans, etc

obsidian wigeon
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i suspect it's just bios broken by xmp on 4 sticks

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cuz cmos reset evidently didn't work

cursive wharf
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Hopefully

severe hull
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@mossy venture

split cliff
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i assume that’s “updating”

obsidian wigeon
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yes

split cliff
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hopefully that’s a good sign

obsidian wigeon
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the blinking means it's working as intended

split cliff
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that the mobo is okay

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what indicator should i look for when it’s complete?

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it says it will stay a Solid Green if the flashback fails

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what about if it’s a success

analog hearth
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I'd just wait for something to show up on the screen

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or report back to us if the light shows a different pattern/color

split cliff
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the green is flashing a bit faster now

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than b4

analog hearth
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what's the motherboard model?

split cliff
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ASrock steel X670E

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that’s not the full name

analog hearth
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steel legend?

split cliff
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yes

analog hearth
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ah the niche meme motherboard (at least the B450 version lol)

split cliff
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Alright

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no green LED is lit up

analog hearth
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yours is probably better lol. don't worry

split cliff
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good sign?

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what to do next? power on PC?

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do i remove the USB stick that’s inside the BIOS USB

analog hearth
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If the LED does not light up at all then please disconnect power from the system and remove/disconnect the CMOS battery from the motherboard for several minutes. Reconnect power and battery and try again.

split cliff
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ok so remove the cmos after i power everything off

split cliff
analog hearth
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Probably keep it in

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I would follow the instructions (take out the CMOS battery and wait a few minutes [like five or so minutes], put it back in, then turn it back on) just to see what happens

split cliff
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alright cmos battery is out

analog hearth
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okay now don't turn the PC on for a second, wait about 5-6 minutes, put the CMOS battery back in, then turn the PC back on

split cliff
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i’ll wait 6 min

analog hearth
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you may have to go through some extra BIOS setup after this

split cliff
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🙏🙏 plz for once in my life i pray god that this works

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swapping the mobo would be the last thing i wanna do

analog hearth
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new to PCs?

split cliff
# analog hearth new to PCs?

2nd time build but overall i was better with building and stuff but for mobo and technical stuff i am still not very good

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@analog hearth ok i am gonna put the cmos battery back now

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and power it on

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the screen is still black ……

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@analog hearth :/

analog hearth
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give it a second. it's possibly configuring itself

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kinda like when you put a new CPU in the motherboard

split cliff
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the red lights have stopped blinking

analog hearth
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changing BIOS settings does some weird stuff sometimes. I changed an iGPU setting in my BIOS once and it turned off my computer and turned it back on (not restart, off and back on. it was weird)

split cliff
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still black screen

analog hearth
analog hearth
glad swallow
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CPU - Intel core i5 13600K
Memory - 32GB Gskill Trident Z5 DDR5 6000 CL 36
Motherboard - Asus Prime Z690-A
Graphics Card - Asus Dual 4070 OC White
Power Supply - Asus TUF 750w 80 Plus Gold ATX 3.0
CPU Cooler - NZXT Kraken Elite 240 RGB (For 360mm AIO + $75) Storage - Western Digital SN850X 1TB
Chassis - Deepcool Ch560 Digital White

analog hearth
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if not, ping Foxy again. he may know more than me lol

split cliff
analog hearth
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interesting

glad swallow
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Is a 12th gen i7 12700kf better then a 13th gen i5 13600k

analog hearth
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@obsidian wigeon sorry for the ping but we need your advice lol

split cliff
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so the mobo works?

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it just won’t display?

obsidian wigeon
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seems to be the case

split cliff
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should i plug my displayport from GPU to mobo?

analog hearth
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try that just in case

split cliff
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with the computer still on right?

analog hearth
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yes

glad swallow
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Can anyone review the specs I sent?

split cliff
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OMFG

obsidian wigeon
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nice

split cliff
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this is what happened after i plug DisplayPort into the mobo

obsidian wigeon
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lol

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looks like the gpu is the culprit

split cliff
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really?

obsidian wigeon
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make sure it's properly installed

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and that power connectors are connected

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yeah

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cause the mobo is fine

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it's using the igpu

split cliff
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GPU works tho?

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oh wait

obsidian wigeon
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can you see your dedicated gpu

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radeon graphics is the integrated one in the cpu

split cliff
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why would my GPU be at fault when it stopped working after i did XMP on 4 ram sticks

obsidian wigeon
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there's a lot we haven't verified

split cliff
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RTX 4080, it was working fine

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until i did XMP on 4 ram sticks

obsidian wigeon
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but i feel the gpu stopped being detected somehow?

obsidian wigeon
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disconnect monitor from mobo

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plug it into gpu

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see if that does something

split cliff
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no signal

obsidian wigeon
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yup

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gpu related issue

split cliff
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XMP broke my GPU…?

obsidian wigeon
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idk how but all you can try is reinstalling the gpu onto the board again

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wait, check bios pcie mode settings

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pcie slot 1 might be on auto, and that's what's causing it to not detect the gpu

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set it to pcie 4.0 mode

analog hearth
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Idk if it would do anything but try without the GPU extension cables (unless I'm blind and that's 3 8-pins to a 12-pin or something)

obsidian wigeon
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it's just the included adapter

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connected to psu cables

analog hearth
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ah gotcha

split cliff
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safe way to unplug GPU?

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pull back?

analog hearth
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just be careful

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PSU cables suck lol

split cliff
obsidian wigeon
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get into bios

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it should be somewhere in advanced menu

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amd pbs

split cliff
obsidian wigeon
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graphics features

split cliff
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so…

obsidian wigeon
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hm

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okay go back to first page of advanced menu

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it might have changed places with am5

split cliff
obsidian wigeon
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pci config

split cliff
obsidian wigeon
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damn this is complicated

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try cpu config tab

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if there's nothing of interest try onboard devices

split cliff
analog hearth
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Display Priority

split cliff
analog hearth
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but it's already set to external graphics

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hmmm

split cliff
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yea…

obsidian wigeon
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that's pretty weird

split cliff
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restore onboard defaults?

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nvm that’s LED

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should i try resetting the BIOS setting

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ahhhh i have to leave for work in 10 min

obsidian wigeon
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nah

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resetting bios ain't gonna solve it

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we'll try later with gpu taken off and installed back in

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i hope the gpu didn't die or something

split cliff
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if it did i hope it’s returnable

obsidian wigeon
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it is

split cliff
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but i peeled the plastic wrapping on the top already

obsidian wigeon
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we just gotta be sure first

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nah that's fine

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just don't peel any labels

split cliff
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does newegg send a new one for replacement (worst case scenario)

obsidian wigeon
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yes

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they always send one for replacement if you contact for an rma

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but not return

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return is asking for refund

split cliff
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alright

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i’ll continue this tonight after work

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🙏

high field
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Yeah my 4080 black screen has to do with the cable it’s a huge issue with the 4080 and 4090

split cliff
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idk the full letters

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my GPU suddenly stopped displaying after i did XMP on a 4 ram stick on mobo

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that’s weird how XMP disabled my GPU’s display

obsidian wigeon
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cables could have come loose somehow too

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verify that when you have the time

glad swallow
vague oracle
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💩 cooler and mobo

glad swallow
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why is the mobo not good?

split cliff
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@obsidian wigeon i managed to delay work for an hour

vague oracle
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It’s low quality and ram support ain’t the best

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Bottom of the barrel pretty much

split cliff
obsidian wigeon
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reinstall it

glad swallow
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cosair then?

vague oracle
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If you want something solid and white there’s this

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And only $10 more than the prime

glad swallow
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wifi?

vague oracle
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Yep

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WiFi 6E

glad swallow
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same price actually

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ok i know cooler is still the same but thats just want i want for aesthetics

cursive wharf
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Also it doesnt look like you found the PCIe version setting. I'd be surprised if AsRock doesnt have that somewhere in their AM5 mobo.

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Should still try looking for that and setting to Gen4 instead of prolly Auto.

glad swallow
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intel and nvidia yes

vague oracle
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Just because you can get a white 7800xt for ~500ish

glad swallow
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i could get a black 4070 card and just paint the shroud too but

split cliff
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@obsidian wigeon reinstalling GPU does not help

obsidian wigeon
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hrmm

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until you can change pcie settings or try with different gpu

cursive wharf
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Use different video port?

glad swallow
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4060ti 16gb better than 4070 12gb?

weary galleon
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Don't think so

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Unless you're doing some sort of productivity task that really needs the vram

split cliff
obsidian wigeon
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4070 roasts 4060ti

cursive wharf
obsidian wigeon
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yeah without this i'd probably declare gpu as ded

glad swallow
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how small is the h6 flow?

cursive wharf
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Could try chipset PCIe slot instead of CPU PCIe slot

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So basically the non-main x16 PCIe slot

split cliff
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WAIT

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is this the pcie setting?

obsidian wigeon
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hurray

split cliff
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change 4 to enable?

obsidian wigeon
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we found it

split cliff
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what about target speed etc

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why pcie 4? is that where my GPU is?

obsidian wigeon
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no

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we gotta figure out which of the many pcie lanes are the correct one

split cliff
split cliff
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i put it where GPU usually sits

obsidian wigeon
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is there any cpu pcie menus?

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this one menu you're in is for chipset

split cliff
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this was the menu before

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what’s this?

glad swallow
split cliff
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@obsidian wigeon

obsidian wigeon
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link speed x16

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gfx lanes config set to not auto

split cliff
split cliff
obsidian wigeon
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set link speed to gen 4

split cliff
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set x16 to gen4?

obsidian wigeon
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yes

split cliff
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ok done

obsidian wigeon
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and show me what selecting pcie/gfx lanes show

split cliff
obsidian wigeon
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hm

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keep it on auto

split cliff
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ok

obsidian wigeon
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that should be all you need

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save and exit

split cliff
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ok

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keep DP plugged into mobo?

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or GPU

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i’ll just keep it in mobo for now

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OMFG IT WORKED

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@obsidian wigeon is there anything i should change now? for the BIOS. leave it as gen4?

obsidian wigeon
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um well

split cliff
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before, GPU 1 (integrated graphics) wasn’t detected

obsidian wigeon
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if you feel brave

split cliff
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now both GPU displays

obsidian wigeon
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use xmp

split cliff
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XMP is no problem with two ram sticks right?

obsidian wigeon
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if not return ram and get a 2 dimm kit

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ya

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it might be problematic with 4

little osprey
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Y’all are still at this?

obsidian wigeon
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sorta

little osprey
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Been long enough I could crunch five and a half hours of sleep

split cliff
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also is there like a complete way to reset everything? @obsidian wigeon

Aka: nvme into unallocated storage, bios is factory default, windows is not installed, bios act like first boot and will go to bios with no window OS detected on any nvme m.2)

split cliff
obsidian wigeon
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reinstall windows

split cliff
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i am so glad that at the end

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my setup nothing broke

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i’m just gonna replace the ram

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return it etc

obsidian wigeon
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but tbh just use the pc

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get working ram

split cliff
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after so many weird troubleshoots

split cliff
obsidian wigeon
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it's no problem

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ram is the only pain spot

glad swallow
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whats the best white psu for the money that comes with a 12VHPWR cable

obsidian wigeon
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there's no need for the psu side to have the cable

glad swallow
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even for the 4070 gpu?

obsidian wigeon
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even less so

glad swallow
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wtf is this guy telling me then

obsidian wigeon
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nonsense

strong raft
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12vhpwr gpu side to 2x8pin psu side is common and very safe. 4090 is the only one that would really "need" more than that. kek

obsidian wigeon
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^

glad swallow
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so say i order the asus rog strix 850g i will need no cable to ensure a complete build?

little osprey
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All modular PSU’s come with their own cables

strong raft
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If psu doesn't have their own "12vhpwr" adapter*/cable, then you of course use what comes w/ the gpu.

glad swallow
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understood

obsidian wigeon
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grab this bad boy

glad swallow
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lol this guy is saying if i got a black psu it would come with that cable

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but if i get white it doesnt....

obsidian wigeon
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wot

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don't listen to em

glad swallow
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i just want to post a list and someone say nice so i can put my fricking amex in and get some cash back

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see

obsidian wigeon
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that's dumb

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i didn't give you 750w cuz 850w is just $10 more

glad swallow
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ik ik kraken sucks but other than that opinions?

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id have to order soon before the asus psu goes back on backorder

mossy venture
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For psu amp v2

obsidian wigeon
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why that psu

mossy venture
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Has new connector too, and is 1000w for same price and tier

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The rest you know my input on

glad swallow
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no specifc reason

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at least i have g.skill ram!!!

mossy venture
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I mean

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Teamgroup 6000c30 white rgb is just as good

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$27 cheaper

glad swallow
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maybe $20 more than teamgroup

obsidian wigeon
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hey if it makes you happy, enjoy your new pc

mossy venture
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Brand is completely irrelevant

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Especially asus atp

obsidian wigeon
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im not being sarcastic, just neuteal

glad swallow
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i cant be happy until someone can approve and say it will work and perform well, yes it could probably perform better

mossy venture
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It's literally just like.

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Why

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Like why specifically those parts over the other ones that perform just as good or better for less

glad swallow
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asus is?

obsidian wigeon
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it's just question of why

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they will work together

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just why spend extra basically

mossy venture
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The pc will work. It's decently capable. But it is dismal value.

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Even for that aesthetic and performance

glad swallow
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ok changing psu out to rm850 i had chose that before but someone recommended the asus one since it has this mysterious cable

obsidian wigeon
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good

glad swallow
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is the 790 really that bad where you'd never put it in a system

obsidian wigeon
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no

glad swallow
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and as for the ssds, i plan to do them in a raid 0 array so i can allocate say 500gb for operating system and have 1.5 tb for storage

obsidian wigeon
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we just prefer value over personal preference

glad swallow
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which is logical

glad swallow
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that msi mobo has a good amount of usb slots

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compared to the asrock

mossy venture
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Usb hub is like $5-10

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I wouldnt Base a mobo purchase on usbs

glad swallow
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not just a impression

mossy venture
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I'd focus on m.2s, vrms, and if a z690 bios flash

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Also I'm begging please don't spend $80 on a 1tb ssd

glad swallow
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what are the main issues people experience with a kraken?

mossy venture
glad swallow
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well i understand that but the plan is to do a raid 0 array which allows for faster speeds

mossy venture
glad swallow
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and you can allocate space for specific stuff

mossy venture
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Raid would actively hurt your use case

obsidian wigeon
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rip data tho if one drive fails

mossy venture
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It is completely useless for gaming.

glad swallow
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yes youd lose everything

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thats why youd need to back it up

mossy venture
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It doesnt change that raid is pointless for gaming

obsidian wigeon
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annd in turn requires another drive to keep backup

mossy venture
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It also makes no sense to spend $650 for the "better" model. 40 series coolers are overbuilt

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The ventus 2x will not even come close to overheating in gaming

glad swallow
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so whty dont i get the 2tb sn850x then i believe its 10

mossy venture
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And is much cheaper

glad swallow
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120

mossy venture
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Because 120 is still a bad price for it, but sure go for it. Still better than the 1tb ones

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The 2tb gm7000 still far better value

glad swallow
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in terms of

mossy venture
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I have to go

glad swallow
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okay thank you for your help

south cliff
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Better price

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its 93.50 cents

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sn850x 120

glad swallow
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2tb or 1

south cliff
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2tb

glad swallow
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and the 1tb is 79

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for sn850x

south cliff
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and its a litle faster

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your gonna need more than 1tb

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there is no way your not gonna need more than 1tb unless you only downloading a few games

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your storage fills up withoug you realizing

glad swallow
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which i am

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2tb for operating system and say 10 games?

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2tb sn850x is 114

split cliff
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already have windows installed, is it safe to remove current installed ram (4x16) to a different brand stick (2x32)?

vague oracle
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A good mobo actually does help a lot on DDR5 platforms

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And it’s fully white

strong raft
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Hopefully not 12th gen though. $70ish over msi Force for instance is quite a bit too, unless 6400+ on ram is all important. kekw

vague oracle
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It’s a 13600k

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High frequency does help a lot

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He’s getting an A-die kit so 7200MT/s is doable on that Aorus elite

glad swallow
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on my list/

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?

strong raft
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That extra 600-800mt/s helping a lot is a stretch, but benchies will be fun

vague oracle
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If you want, with that 6000c30 gskill kit you can get it running at 7000 or 7200MT/s with a bit of manual tuning

vague oracle
glad swallow
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whats stock? on them

vague oracle
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Stock (JEDEC) is 4800, XMP is 6000

glad swallow
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they have the same ns as teamforce

vague oracle
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CL means basically nothing

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Barely affects anything

glad swallow
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most people enable xmp no?

vague oracle
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Yeah XMP is an overclock

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You’re also able to manually overclock it which nets big performance gains from tightening secondary timings and raising frequency

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DDR4 wise, manually OCed 2133 outperforms a 3600 XMP

glad swallow
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ok im going to stick with the sn850x 2tb

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id save another 100 if i got the msrock mobo

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well like $50

cyan ravine
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Can't think of any recent time if ever, there being a good reason to buy an sn850x

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If you want good Gen 4, get P41 Plus, there's not really anything better beyond that worth buying

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You might get lucky and see P44 pro on tiktok sales for dummy cheap, I think that's really the only time

glad swallow
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well

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the ingridients have been purchased

south cliff
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does the ftw3 and the ftw3 ultra 3090 have the same thermal pad like layout?

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would these work

limber oyster
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New case arrives tomorrow

glad swallow
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if im getting an h6 case and my cpu cooler will be mounted on top, one rear exhaust fan should i bother getting fans for the bottom?

limber oyster
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My case

south cliff
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case

limber oyster
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Look at pic

south cliff
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oh nah thats a printer

limber oyster
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Nope, that's a itx PC case

south cliff
limber oyster
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It's a travel case

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It's by Cyberpower and was released with a i5 4500k build

south cliff
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i mean i like it

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looks cool

limber oyster
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It's the only one i could find ANYWHERE

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And it was $220 with the PSU on ebay

south cliff
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220 is crazy

limber oyster
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Well it has a 850w PSU and it was literally the only one for sale online. And it's OLD. So.....

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I can go turn around and resell the PSU for like $75-100

south cliff
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not that psu

limber oyster
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You don't know my local market lol

south cliff
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your right

limber oyster
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I've seen lga1151 itx boards going for $500

south cliff
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goly

limber oyster
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And being sold next day

south cliff
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holy

limber oyster
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Am4 as well

burnt dawn
latent saddle
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do yall know if the zotac twin edge 4070 have a dual bios?

cyan ravine
# burnt dawn I'm helping a friend to sort out a pc partpicker list, would apperciate feedback...
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I would recommend a *$715 4070 Ti if I had to suggest a high end nvidia card

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otherwise 7900XT/X

burnt dawn
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Okay

cyan ravine
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And just a little background here, the 7800X3D runs on an AMD stock cooler, and the result of both builds would be the exact same performance

burnt dawn
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I see

cyan ravine
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oh oops I forgot the psu

burnt dawn
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I thought x3D chip would run hot

cyan ravine
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one sec

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nah man

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the old ones diid

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the new gen ones are fine on basic coolers

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the RM750e is like $70 off newegg tiktok rn

burnt dawn
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Seeing ID cooling SE

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is one tower really enough to cool the 7800x3d?

cyan ravine
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ye

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hold on I have a video

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first ten seconds has a graph that tells basically the whole story

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but the test is a stock box cooler from amd vs an aio

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and all the synthetic tests, the results are basically identical

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and these are harder tests than games, so that should set the precedent here

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ok I updated all the lists @burnt dawn

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sorry, forgot the psu lol

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if you can check out the newegg tiktok shop they have a ridiculous level of discounts on a LOT of things

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like an RM750e psu is like $70

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a 2tb P41 Plus ssd is like $45?

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you could get cheaper ram

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you could also get an $87 A620M gaming X

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if he didn't need wifi and/or fine with not a full white theme

shut rampart
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hi

burnt dawn
cyan ravine
south cliff
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ive seen some things were people thermal pads were not workng and they added thermal paste and it dropped temps a lot

cyan ravine
#

ye

shut rampart
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Is this an m.2

cyan ravine
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if you have like, old, bit dodgy thermal pads

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a dab of paste fixes it right up where it's torn

cyan ravine
shut rampart
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ok ty

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going to buy one at tiktok shop

cyan ravine
#

nice

south cliff
#

i think the guy that io bought it from said that the og owner replaced thermal pads and i think they are the kritical pads and i have seen some things about them that they make the vrm temps really cool but the gpu temps high

shut rampart
#

less then 100gb left on my other m.2 😢 god damit cod

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1t or 2?

cyan ravine
#

which points to bad thickness

south cliff
#

yeah sadly

cyan ravine
south cliff
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i really dont wanna buy new ones

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they cost alot for me

cyan ravine
#

it doesn't need to be measured, it just goes on

south cliff
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isnt it kinda messy tho

cyan ravine
#

yep

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it works really well though, and does dry a bit over time

south cliff
#

is there like a kit i can buy for the 3090 instead of having to buy separate thicknesses

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like a thermal pad kit

cyan ravine
#

yeah K5 kekw

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your other answer is a waterblock lol

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or a bunch of ptm7950

south cliff
#

or just buy sepereate thicknesses ?

cyan ravine
#

mhm

south cliff
#

dammit

cyan ravine
#

K5 pro is yuck but it's the cheapest most effective method

south cliff
#

or it could be just ther thermal paste

cyan ravine
#

you buy like, 3 sticks worth, will do a whole 3090

south cliff
#

and or not tightened down right

cyan ravine
#

maybe?

south cliff
#

im going to try it tommorow

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just to get it out the window

cyan ravine
#

but I know of a couple people who had this with kritical pads

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specifically on ftw3's

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they're like, too stiff?

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not quite the right thickness

south cliff
#

damn im kinda sad now

cyan ravine
#

I think there are others who use, I think gelid?

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but you're still buying a bunch of separate sizes

south cliff
#

i mean it just runs at like 80

cyan ravine
#

80 core or 80 hotspot

south cliff
#

core

cyan ravine
#

what's the hotspot

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and your power draw

south cliff
#

can i check on x1?

cyan ravine
#

those are the two that matter

#

you can check on hwinfo 64

south cliff
#

i get like 350 watts

cyan ravine
#

on which evga?

south cliff
#

ftw3 ultra

cyan ravine
#

you should be able to do 450W on that card no issue

south cliff
#

might be more tho i will check real fast

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right now its at 60 doing nothing

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hot spot 72 but let me run furmark or something

cyan ravine
#

60 idle??

south cliff
#

yeah

cyan ravine
#

fans off?

south cliff
#

like 10 percent

cyan ravine
south cliff
#

bruh this is bad

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i know

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alr let me run furmark

south cliff
cyan ravine
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lol.

south cliff
#

93 on gpu hot spot

cyan ravine
#

hm?

south cliff
cyan ravine
#

how many watts

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wait

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how many watts first

south cliff
#

341

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no 420 my bad

cyan ravine
#

420 is better

south cliff
#

i was looking at gpu rail

cyan ravine
#

ah

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ok

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last question

south cliff
#

gpu power max 420

cyan ravine
#

how much fan is it giving it

south cliff
#

let me open x1

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so i can see

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about 60-64

cyan ravine
#

that

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seems not that bad actually

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hotspot to core is good

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mem junction is on the hotter side but as is the case with ftw3 normally

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I would kinda just run with that but with a slightly better fan curve

south cliff
#

i also have a pig tail

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running on it

cyan ravine
#

wouldn't make a difference to temps

south cliff
#

i gotta wait till like thursday

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how to do i do a btter fan curve

cyan ravine
#

I can't remember with precision x1

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I'm sure there's a hundred youtube tutorials tho

south cliff
#

ok i will check them out

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do you think i should replaste the gpu tho

cyan ravine
#

not really no

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mem junction 110 would be concerning but not 104

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the mount is good cos 13 degree delta between core and hotspot

south cliff
#

106 at the end

cyan ravine
#

mmm

south cliff
#

should i run a longer test

cyan ravine
#

I feel like asking other evga owners their mem junction temps might give some insight

south cliff
#

im going to run 3dmark

cyan ravine
#

there are plenty 3090 cards out there that just sit locked at 110 mem

south cliff
#

it might just bee the fan curve

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im going to try 70 percent

cyan ravine
#

alr

south cliff
#

im still going to repast my cpu because why not

tropic jacinth
#

is it better to build a pc with 800$ cad or buy a prebuild?

potent portal
#

You'll get much better parts building it yourself

tropic jacinth
#

yea thats what farvak said

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okay thank you, could you possibly reccomend some parts?

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or like a list?

cyan ravine
#

for 800?

tropic jacinth
#

yea

cyan ravine
#

can you use newegg tiktok

potent portal
#

Cad

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Probably not

cyan ravine
#

oh right

tropic jacinth
#

wym?

cyan ravine
#

nvm

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forgot it's a canada list

tropic jacinth
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lol

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soooooooooooooo

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could you please help me make a list?

#

I was thinking i should get a used 5700 xt what do you think

south cliff
#

alright on 3d markl i got 93.3 on hot spot 81.1 on gpu temp and 106 on memory junction and max watts 420.684

cyan ravine
#

about the best I think can be done

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sorry this

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wrong mobo in the other one

tropic jacinth
#

oml tysm

cyan ravine
#

go with a used 5700xt if it's cheaper

tropic jacinth
#

thx

cyan ravine
#

alternative if you want a better case

cyan ravine
south cliff
#

83 junction 106

cyan ravine
#

confusion

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is the junction 106 or 83 lol

south cliff
#

106

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mem 1 mem 2 mem 3

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the highest was 83

cyan ravine
#

interesting

south cliff
#

i would just like the gpu temp to go down so the fans dont ramp up as loud

cyan ravine
#

well the answer to that question is unlikely to be a yes

#

if anything it deserves more fan lol

#

your 13C delta on the hotspot to the core temp describes that it's mounted properly

#

at least from what I can tell

burnt dawn
#

oh yeah felix

cyan ravine
#

what's up

burnt dawn
#

i have a 5800x3d and that thing runs "warm", reached 79 C on 280mm AIO using cinebench 2024

cyan ravine
#

ye, old x3d is like that

#

5800x is worse, it's a complete volcano

south cliff
#

im going to try 80 see if that helps

burnt dawn
#

I see, I have edited the pc case out to an non rgb one since he dont want RGB stuf

cyan ravine
#

fair enough

#

as long as it's a decent case that's no worry

burnt dawn
#

and I can just tell him to not plug in the rgb header when he puts on ID cooling cpu cooler

cyan ravine
#

yea pretty much

#

I could do a non rgb build rq?

burnt dawn
#

he just wants fuctionality and reliability

cyan ravine
#

alr

#

one moment

#

I'll drop the non-rgb suggestions here then ima dip

burnt dawn
#

thanks Felix

cyan ravine
#

@burnt dawn does he need wifi

burnt dawn
#

let's say its both in case

cyan ravine
#

alr

tropic jacinth
#

hey felix do you think that maybe i can get 16 gb of ram instead of 32 so i can save a bit money?

cyan ravine
#
cyan ravine
south cliff
#

80 percent temp was 79

cyan ravine
#

I can make it much cheaper

south cliff
#

no matter what fan speed its either 81 or like 79

tropic jacinth
#

ok kk

#

mobo has wifi right?

cyan ravine
#

this cheaper list doesn't hold on

tropic jacinth
#

mobo has wifi right?

cyan ravine
#

the last one does, as do the other 3

tropic jacinth
#

other 3? wait are you with me? lol

cyan ravine
#

yes

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the last list has wifi

#

the second last does not

#

the 3 before that have wifi

burnt dawn
#

Rare to see a Asrock GPU

cyan ravine
#

PG XTX is actually a bit goated

#

It's basic but gives you the highest tier XTX experience despite this

#

It's beefy af too despite being basic

burnt dawn
#

How do you make a good PC list like that? Staying on top of new tech by watching yt and stuff?

#

and thank you lol have a good day Felix

cyan ravine
#

All good, I'm still here for another minute

#

About, uhh

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2, 2?

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2 years of practice at this point

#

just knowing from reviews most of what performs as what, and how good it is

#

I tend to do extremely price optimised stuff here

#

While still considering a couple design choices, like say, colour

#

@mossy venture and @potent portal are much the same

#

we've all been doing this for quite a while lol

#

Alr time for me to dip

#

Good luck with the builds lads

manic cloak
#

Officially a year ago

#

I got scammed by microcenter

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Jkjk, 12600k + z690 asus tuf gaming wifi ddr4 mobo for 300$ and my g27f 2 monitor for 150$

#

For the prices then, amazing

#

Now I kinda lose out around 50$ cause of the tiktok shop

south cliff
#

ok so i undevolted the 3090 at about 100 percent its gets around 75-76 degrees and max power draw was 360 watts

high field
high field
obsidian wigeon
#

i was diagnosing the problem, making speculations

#

don't worry lol

high field
#

I got a new cable tomorrow that might fix the issue but this is so dumb because it’s been going on for a year now and they still have fix it

split cliff
strong raft
#

12vhpwr, and xmp w/ 4dimms bekng unstable could also he a factor on the "black screen".

high field
#

Cause yeah I still have the black screen problem so annoying

obsidian wigeon
#

have you tried changing pcie settings

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set it to gen 4 for cpu

high field
#

How do u do that

obsidian wigeon
#

dig around in bios

zenith cargo
#

Can I buy this specific extension cable or do I need to buy a whole kit?

potent portal
#

There's definitely individual cables you can buy

zenith cargo
#

do you know where I can find them

potent portal
#

I'm partial to cablemod but they can be pricy. Fully customizable though.

#

Asiahorse is a cheaper brand I see recommended, I think you can get them on amazon

zenith cargo
#

whats the difference from a 8+8 or 6+2

#

which one fits mine?

crimson zinc
tranquil basin
#

For PC building first timer, what tutorial vids do you guys recommend?

south cliff
mossy venture
split cliff
#

@obsidian wigeon doomed

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apparently putting the pc to sleep and turning it back on

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causes gpu to not be detected again

obsidian wigeon
#

hm?

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ah heck

#

windows moment

split cliff
#

how to factory reset mobo?

obsidian wigeon
#

cmos reset

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if that doesn't work you gotta redo the pcie settings again while display is connected to mobo

split cliff
#

this is so weird ugh

tranquil basin
south cliff
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split cliff
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how do i combine drive 1 partitions

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after i make them unallocated

south cliff
#

wdym

split cliff
#

i wanna reinstall windows

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but i wanna combine all the partitions b4 i do that

south cliff
#

for what

split cliff
#

r u able to combine the partition after reinstall?

south cliff
#

i dont think you can

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which ones?

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the drive 1s?

split cliff
#

yes

south cliff
#

oh you dont need those

split cliff
#

i wanna make them all unallocated and then merge them

south cliff
#

im pretty sure they are like throw away files

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i you dont need to

#

im pretty sure

split cliff
#

so if i reinstall windows on drive 1 partition 2

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i can’t combine partition 1 and 3 later?

south cliff
#

those are throw away files

#

like 16mb is nothing

#

but check with someone else first

split cliff
#

oh wait

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deleting them merged them

#

ok there we go

#

that was what i meant

#

xd

south cliff
#

lol

split cliff
#

@obsidian wigeon i finally fixed it after constantly thinking about it at work today

#

it is now detecting GPU and defaults to GPU

#

for some reason, the motherboard loves to keep booting using integrated graphics

#

so what i did was i uninstalled windows

#

deleted all SSD and they are all unallocated

#

forcing the mobo to boot to BIOS

#

when windows was installed, i think the mobo registered the amd integrated graphics as the main boot always

#

so i basically removed that registration

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cmos reset

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put in my windows installation drive again and used DP into GPU

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now when i boot, mobo has nowhere to go? except for the GPU

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idk if it makes sense

#

PC is now entirely fixed

split cliff
obsidian wigeon
#

indeed

split cliff
#

it’s like windows registered mobo as its boot key

#

it has to go through it to boot

#

@obsidian wigeon thank u for ur help yesterday and today, it was helpful and i gained knowledge for future builds

#

really appreciate it man

obsidian wigeon
#

you're welcome

#

im glad i was of great help

split cliff
#

@obsidian wigeon i just hope now that the “smell” from my PSU isn’t plastic burning. cuz idk what plastic burning even smells like. i can only smell that weird smell if i put my nose against the PSU real close. i can’t smell it if i don’t put my nose close. lol

tranquil basin
obsidian wigeon
#

some can smell funky

cyan ravine
#

First time I've seen a post having psu burn-off like a new kitchen appliance or oven

#

Man, this guest guy is on another level 💀

obsidian wigeon
#

lmao

south cliff
mossy venture
#

Obviously can do better custom, but pre built idt I've seen better for that tier of pc

#

Though you'd want to upgrade the ram

mellow meteor
#

alright, thanks

split cliff
split cliff
limber oyster
#

I'm sad, just realized I can't do a water loop in my new case

potent portal
#

Not with that attitude. A Dremel and some creativity can fix that no matter what case it is.

limber oyster
tall knot
#

Heavy rendering, running server, 3d modeling, editing, work, data processing and gaming ofc. Everything

Ignoring the fact that there is no gpu or cooling in this list, would this be a decently built top of the line pc for the above use cases still or should I upgrade a certain part before I buy the parts.
(Yes the storage is split up that way for a reason)
(Also yes intel is preferred)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fw99t7

analog hearth
#

@split cliff I'm glad your build is finally working :)

mossy venture
tall knot
obsidian wigeon
#

Corsair ram is bad

obsidian wigeon
#

I'd replace em for g.skill

#

Team group, adata

tall knot
obsidian wigeon
#

Corsair is hit or miss with qc on their ram

tall knot
obsidian wigeon
#

ye

#

No probs

tall knot
#

I'm just buying alot of the stuff Amazon has on sale rn and it doesn't include ram yet

#

Ok cool thanks

#

Oh yeah would that PSU be good enough for a 4090 and custom loop for everything all said and done?

obsidian wigeon
#

yep

#

1000w is enough

#

with good amount of legroom

tall knot
#

Gotcha Thanks

obsidian wigeon
#

can squeeze 850 but since you have the bag

#

might as well splurge on 1000

#

13900k can and will guzzle 300w+

little osprey
#

Corsair is bad

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BAD

#

The world would not change one bit if they were to cease to exist

potent portal
#

They make exactly 1 good product, PSUs

obsidian wigeon
#

and now one good keeb

little osprey
#

Thermaltake

potent portal
#

Corsair's cable system makes it super easy to find and make compatible custom cables, or add new standards to your old power supply like when they made the 12VHPWR cable

#

Now if I want to use a 40 series GPU I don't need to use the stupid 4x 8 pin adapter, I just need $20 to modernize my old RMx.

empty cape
weary galleon
#

The case is good and the CPU is good

#

Pairing a 3060 with a 7800x3d isn't great

#

Personally I would opt for an air cooler bit if you really want liquid go for a 280mm or 360

empty cape
#

why the 3060 isn't great?

#

any suggestion on the air cooler?

weary galleon
#

More of a budget card and not great price/performance. I'd go for a 3060ti or 6700xt minimum, but with a 7800x3d something more powerful would be better

empty cape
#

ok

weary galleon
#

Thermalright peerless assassin is good

empty cape
#

is the mobo good? never paid that much for a mobo before

weary galleon
#

Or thermalright phantom spirit

empty cape
weary galleon
weary galleon
empty cape
#

ok thanks

little osprey
cyan ravine
# little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YH7WBL can someone let me know if this is good or ...
#

ask in #peripherals-and-displays for a good DAC+AMP recommendation or stick to the sound card build into the motherboard. We don't really recommend add-in sound cards here

#

I can highly suggest a $5 Apple usb-c DAC off of amazon

#

it tears the pants off of most sound cards, and is amazing value for money

#

$8 sorry

#

then use it with a good headset like a pc38x

little osprey
#

alr thank you

cyan ravine
little osprey
#

these are just builds you recommend right?

cyan ravine
#

yes

#

I mean in terms of performance

#

they are a good nearly 2x faster in some cases

little osprey
#

im on a strict budget rn

#

like 1.1-1.2 before I sell my current pc then maybe 1.3-1.4 with the money from selling my pc

cyan ravine
#

If you can use newegg tiktok shop these lists could go way cheaper

#

the reason I say that and not offer a second list, is cos the step down is a bit significant from here

#

otherwise you go to 6950/6900XT, or otherwise 7800XT

little osprey
#

yeah

#

im just tryna upgrade to something better that will last a while before needing a new upgrade

cyan ravine
#

these all will

little osprey
#

my current pc is 4 years old and thats before whenever the parts came out

cyan ravine
#

you'll be on a mobo that can take any drop in upgrade

#

and all 3 gpus are mid range

little osprey
#

mobo?

#

Im new to this

cyan ravine
#

motherboard

#

in a couple years you should be able to buy another cpu from a newer amd gen and just drop it in without any real problems

#

that's even if you need to

#

7600 is really competent

near garden
#

Question I built my pc like 2 years ago I added 16gb of ram 3600 I’ve noticed I need more so do I have to get a new 32gb kit or can I mix a random 16gb kit because I dont see the kit I have currently anymore for sale on stores it just has to be the same speed if I do ?

cyan ravine
hollow crag
#

Do cpus come with thermal paste

potent portal
#

No but coolers do. If there's a stock cooler in the box it'll be with that.

hollow crag
#

So the 7600 would?

#

No idea

#

But it is an essential for building a pc yes?

potent portal
#

Yes, I believe the paste is pre-applied to the stock cooler too

#

The 7600 comes with the cooler, the 7600X is higher power so it does not

hollow crag
#

Amazing, thanks

analog hearth
#

bruh

mossy venture
#

And that made sense to me too

lament scarab
#

I was wondering if anyone could help me spec out a PC to be used as a Plex Server while Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals are floating around.

My storage needs are already satisfied and that I would like to build in a smaller form factor. No monitor, keyboard, mouse, or operating system needed.

I would like to be able to support three or four 4k transcodes simultaneously. I don’t really know the amount processing power required for that or if Intel/Amd has any proprietary technology which would be beneficial to this use case. I also don’t know if this would required dedicated graphics or not, but I would assume not. I would need a motherboard that supports 10 GB Ethernet and has at least 4 USB 3.1 port with a bus that can support a good amount of simultaneous data transfer.

Budget would probably be around $300-$600. Any help would be appreciated.

high field
#

4080 still black screen for me

potent portal
# lament scarab I was wondering if anyone could help me spec out a PC to be used as a Plex Serve...

This is about the cheapest I can make that meets your needs. The key factor is the AV1 encoding support on the A750, it makes transcoding way faster and better quality. There's also very few motherboards that have 10Gb ethernet so you have to add an adapter. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7N9Gn6

#

The cheapest motherboard with 10Gb without going for used parts is $300

high field
#

Any fixes to my issue?

potent portal
#

Short of the things I've already suggested or changing parts, no idea

brazen pond
#

Yo

#

Rtx 3060, Ryzen 7 5800x, b550m ds3h motherboard, 650w psu the play or nah?

potent portal
#

5800X is in a weird spot. The 5700X is identical performance so might as well either go with that and save money or upgrade to the 5800X3D for up to 25% more fps.

lament scarab
potent portal
#

Nothing that would be an issue with a Linux Plex server

#

The cards have been in the kernel since 6.0

brazen pond
potent portal
#

The DS3H would also not be able to handle the power of the 5800X now that I think about it. Smol heatsink, overheats easily.

brazen pond
#

But like tbf I just got the 5800x because it was a hella good deal on Amazon

little osprey
#

Corsair RMX 850 or MSI MPG A850G PSU

potent portal
brazen pond
#

I’ll have to upgrade next year or something

#

I hear 5800x overheats very easily

#

Also idk if my cpu cooler on my old b365m ds3m will support b550m, kinda worried it might not be. I forgot which one I bought 😅

potent portal
#

Yes, nothing short of a strong 240mm or average 280mm AIO will keep the 5800X cool. I have one on a strong 420mm and it still hits 80C.

#

And that's undervolted

brazen pond
#

Damn man

little osprey
#

who makes best AIO? 360mm for friend

potent portal
#

AMD or Intel

little osprey
#

Intel 14600k

brazen pond
#

Is nvenc h264 that much better than amd’s h264?

potent portal
#

Not really

#

Not anymore

brazen pond
#

That’s the one of the main reasons why I chose nvidia over amd

#

Damn

#

I should’ve done more research

potent portal
brazen pond
#

This build was from like 3 years ago (the one I’m upgrading now) and haven’t really been part of the pc building community ever since so I barely know anything about the latest tech and the best parts

#

But do you think 650w psu is good enough for my build?

potent portal
#

Yeah plenty, as long as it's C tier or better

little osprey
#

Would a 4070ti run games well on 3440x1440p Ultrawide?

potent portal
#

Depends on the game. Baldur's Gate 3? Sure. Starfield? Not on your life.

little osprey
#

BETHESDA?!

#

TAKE MY LIFE SAVINGS AND CHILD

potent portal
#

I'm holding onto mine until the creation kit is ready

#

The game is rather repetitive and empty without mods

little osprey
#

Heh heh

#

Yeah my mod list goes with me to the grave

potent portal
#

I have a rather tame list compared to other people in skyrim, only about 150 mods total