building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

How much would my 3000g mobo 16gb 2400 512gb aio combo sell for?

[little osprey]

Depends on the specific parts

What’s the motherboard, RAM, and storage?

Also 2400 is pretty slow for DDR4 let alone when the market is shifting towards DDR5

I'm aware

I'll get you the parts list in a bit

Alright

[obsidian wigeon]

my guesstimate is

[little osprey]

Gonna be blunt you’re not gonna get much noting the 3000G is only dual core

[obsidian wigeon]

$60-70

[little osprey]

For all of it?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[little osprey]

Unfortunately that sounds about right

[little osprey]

Oh hail naw 🤣😅

[potent portal]

Without knowing specific parts, here's my guess
3000g - $20
Mobo - $40
Memory -$15
SSD - $15
AIO - $25

I can give a more exact number once you put together the part list

[little osprey]

I had one and I can't get into my account

Athlon 3000G
MSI B450M Gaming Plus
ADATA XPG Z1 8x2 2400MHz
PC711 SK Hynix 512GB
Corsair H55
+- EVGA SuperNOVA 120-GP-0650-X1

The motherboard has issues with the audio controller not working

So id probably have to list the combo as fp/nw

[little osprey]

And the CPU and Ram have been OC'd

Which I'm pretty sure is important?

Not ever for longer than 2 months though

[potent portal]

I was almost dead on once I checked ebay used prices.
3000g - $25
Mobo - $40
Memory -$15
SSD - $15
AIO - $25

You don't need to list as "for parts" just make sure that you list any defects

No one needs to know it was overclocked, it barely matters unless you pushed the voltage too high

[little osprey]

So it'd be fine to list the whole combo somewhere for about 120$? Thanks

Decent enough I suppose-ish

[potent portal]

You can list it a little higher than that because people will try to haggle it down

[little osprey]

I was hoping the egpu would pay for itself though 😭

[potent portal]

Maybe list for $150 and take an offer above $120

[little osprey]

Bet that's smart

Thank you

[potent portal]

I've done a lot of selling lol

That way the buyer thinks they won but in reality you did

[little osprey]

Where do you think this'd sell best?

I was thinking r/hwswap

[little osprey]

Yeah

[little osprey]

Idk that you can even post a listing like this on eBay? 😭

What would you post it under

[potent portal]

You can but the shipping would be really expensive

I'd post locally, facebook market, craigslist, etc

[little osprey]

Alright

[potent portal]

You can sell just about anything that isn't illegal or expired on ebay

[little osprey]

Should I add my PSU to this and just get a new cheaper one or nah?

Edited it to include it in the message

[potent portal]

Honestly I'd keep the power supply, that's a decent enough B tier unit

You could put that into the eGPU dock

Whatever you could sell the PSU for isn't worth buying another one

[winged crystal]

Gonna be a silly question.... what direction should i face the cpu fan when i install it on the motherboard?

[lyric thistle]

depends

honestly doesn't matter too much

generally to the back or upwards

[mossy venture]

What cooler

Though generally, you want the fan to blow the air out the back of the case

[winged crystal]

Enermax ETS-N31 CPU Air Cooler

Ideally the back, got it

[little osprey]

Alright thanks

[winged crystal]

What would be better (if it matters) the enermax little packet of thermal paste that came with it or (i have a tube) silicon 500 thermal paste?

[potent portal]

It barely matters

Just use the one the cooler came with

[jagged ember]

It'll make a tiny difference yeah

But not worth buying anything extra for

[winged crystal]

Hopefully i didn't break anything.... had to put quite a bit of force to get it to clasp...

[potent portal]

That's normal. It can be scary the first few times.

[split cliff]

what is this

[potent portal]

Heatsink for a SSD

[cyan ravine]

One with a fan that's probably loud but also good too

[burnt stratus]

My ssd has a heatsink

A big one too

[pseudo pollen]

good for you

[tepid crater]

See now that's what I need. Cause the only ssd port I have with a heat sink is disabled. But the other one is enabled with no heat sink. Thinking that's why my ssd fried

[potent portal]

Temperature won't kill the drive, it'll just slow itself down and keep itself about 20 degrees below any kind of critical temp

[tepid crater]

Hmm. Has to have been that PSU then

[leaden raft]

my pc is back to running like doodoo and i just do NOT understand why

[tepid crater]

Your using a HDD?

Virus's?

Background programs running?

[leaden raft]

no

[leaden raft]

no

[leaden raft]

dont think so

im pretty mindful w task manager

[tepid crater]

If macaffy has found its way into your pc it'll cause your pc to run terribly aswell

[leaden raft]

whats that

[tepid crater]

It's an "ant virus" that's just malware in disguise

[leaden raft]

o

[tepid crater]

Same for Norton anti virus

[leaden raft]

i dont think so

would they show up in programs or on a virus scan?

[tepid crater]

If you've downloaded mods for a game it's possible it piggy backed onto them. Programs it should, virus scan no

Also when was the last time you did a driver update?

and I don't mean just your graphics drivers

[leaden raft]

o

uhh'

[high field]

So I’m going to be building a new pc

And I’m going to be using the then 7 5800x3d with a Msi 4070 ti and a Corsair iCUE H100i Elite CAPELLIX XT Liquid CPU Cooler with it over heat

[potent portal]

The 5800X3D is one of the hottest processors that is currently relevant

It will overheat on just about anything but the best 360mm AIOs

And I wouldn't put anything Corsair makes into any list that starts with "best"

[leaden raft]

only ones i see for options are Intel Corp bluetooth and Intel - net

but i have on intel pieces

so idk

[austere basalt]

Alright, update guys

[cyan ravine]

Would strongly recommend not going 5800x3d new

7600 is cheaper, cooler, newer, faster

[austere basalt]

PC worked fine Monday, then yesterday evening it crashed 8 times 🙃

[leaden raft]

if i sent my hwinfo64 summary would it reveal anything bad?

[austere basalt]

All I did was have a few partial installs on games but that's about it, no new software. Oh and a windows update and new graphics driver

[potent portal]

There's no personal info in the data if that's what you're asking, just specs and sensors

[leaden raft]

could i send that here?

[potent portal]

Yeah

[leaden raft]

having trouble troubleshooting

[austere basalt]

I ran a 4 hour memory test on Occt and got a blue screen with memory_management... so am I looking at faulty ram?

[leaden raft]

i feel that these specs shouldnt be running games at 60fps on low-mid settings or have tearing when i dont have applications open...

[high field]

Is for msfs only

So the 3d would be the best option for me

[cyan ravine]

Ah

Still try and get one used instead

The new price is not really worth it unless you already have an AM4 motherboard

[high field]

Used? Or I could get the 7800x3d

[cyan ravine]

7800x3d would be a better buy

[high field]

And the motherboard I got is the b550 with the 5800x3d

[cyan ravine]

It also can run on the stock box coolers unlike the 5800x3d

[high field]

Or should I do the b650 with the 7800x3d

[potent portal]

7800X3D is the single best gaming processor right now so if it's in budget there's no reason not to get it

[cyan ravine]

I'd do a620m with a $20 tower cooler and 7800x3d

Cos 7800x3d does NOT overheat easily at all

And doesn't need any extra features in a mobo to run at full performance

You weigh it up vs a 5800x3d with a b550 and h100i aio, I bet the 7800x3d could end up cheaper

And a solid 20% odd faster if not more

[little osprey]

||You need LN2 to cool the 7800X3D otherwise it’ll explode||

[cyan ravine]

Why post that now

Lol

You'll confuse them

[little osprey]

I’m bored in class

[leaden raft]

anything raising eyebrows?

[potent portal]

That's the 14900k

[little osprey]

Nuh uhhh

[potent portal]

You could try adding some memory voltage and see if that helps stabilize it

[little osprey]

I can run a 14900K on a DS3H just fine

Maybe

Theoretically!

[cyan ravine]

Yes, corsair vengeance ram

[potent portal]

If you're ok with being hard capped on power

[high field]

Would my collier still be good for my setup though

[cyan ravine]

Like, the highest candidate for both bad memory chips and rma in the ddr4 department

[cyan ravine]

You can use a $20 tower cooler on a 7800x3d let alone any aio

You could use a stock cooler even, it runs just fine on the basic amd one

It's been tested before

7000x3d is much better for heat management than 5000x3d

[potent portal]

If you got the 5800X3D, no it would not be enough. It would be more than fine for the 7800X3D.

[austere basalt]

@potent portal

[cyan ravine]

It would not surprise me if your sticks are basically Samsung C, and have decided to die on their own and need a warranty claim

[potent portal]

3600c16 tho

[cyan ravine]

I thought it was 3200

[high field]

Corsair iCUE H100i Elite CAPELLIX XT Liquid CPU Cool

[potent portal]

I misread

[cyan ravine]

It's 3200

Lol

It's the trash bin

[potent portal]

Yeah it's probaly C dead

[potent portal]

Could be memory or your SSD still

[leaden raft]

wait so my rams dead u think?

[austere basalt]

Would it help if I gave you the error codes?

[potent portal]

Not really

[cyan ravine]

my guess but it might also not be, things like a new windows update or a bios change can also do that

new video drivers

etc etc

[potent portal]

From what you've described I would say it's 75% chance being the memory, 20% chance it's the SSD, 5% chance other

You can rule out the SSD by installing Windows on another drive

[leaden raft]

anyway to diagnose?

i have a nvme

[high field]

So would I need to get a new mother board the b650 and the 7800x3d and the new AIO cooler

[cyan ravine]

ram test

[potent portal]

Drives are cheap, might not be a bad idea to get another

[high field]

What do u think

[leaden raft]

i have two nvme in here

[potent portal]

Oh, then you can use the secondary one to install windows and pull the main out

If you still get errors, it's the memory

[cyan ravine]

do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jzj989

[leaden raft]

damn

its prolly the memoryu then

this is my 3rd clean install of windows

[potent portal]

On the same drive though

[leaden raft]

nah

[potent portal]

So if the drive itself is bad...

You already tried installing on 2 different drives?

Is that what you're saying?

[leaden raft]

correct

[potent portal]

Ok then yes it's your memory

[leaden raft]

i tried on it both of the nvme on the board

[high field]

I would want to get liquid cooler not a fan got any suggestions for one?

[cyan ravine]

this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GnF989

[potent portal]

Why though, liquid coolers are louder and don't live as long

[cyan ravine]

although that^

you really don't need it

[high field]

Just always used them this will be my 5th pc

[cyan ravine]

it'll be $30 extra just on aesthetics basically

no performance gain

nor sound gain

[potent portal]

Air cooling has come a long way in the last decade, $40-50 air coolers compete with $125 240mm AIOs

[leaden raft]

rlly??

[cyan ravine]

yes

[leaden raft]

might gotta consider for my sff build

[cyan ravine]

Thermalright peerless assassin >>>>>

[leaden raft]

is there a way to test the memory to see

[cyan ravine]

to explain what I mean by this, new Ryzen just runs hot no matter what unless you do some really jank modding like delidding, so you will have basically the same results from a $20* tower vs an $800 triple radiator custom loop

[cyan ravine]

try testmem5 anta777 extreme

https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/

[leaden raft]

total 32683Mb, available 1593Mb

assuming thats the failure

[cyan ravine]

no that's by design

it's showing numbers up to 14 yes?

not numbers up to 5

[leaden raft]

huh

[cyan ravine]

tests up to 15 no?

[austere basalt]

I'm curious, if I have occasional crashes while installing games (sometimes not) would that still be indicative of ram issues?

[leaden raft]

no

[potent portal]

Yes

[leaden raft]

up to 5

[austere basalt]

On top of it crashing during a ram test

[cyan ravine]

then you need to load the anta777 config

click load config

and search the same folder for anta777 config

then it'll close, then you relaunch it as administrator and it should show the profile has loaded

[leaden raft]

ok

now i see 15

[cyan ravine]

ok, let it run for 3 cycles

if it shows any errors at all, you have a ram problem

if not, then you most likely don't have a ram problem

it should take about a couple hours

[potent portal]

Well, you still have a ram problem. It's called Corsair.

[leaden raft]

what am i doing wrong lol

[cyan ravine]

yes but we can look past that

[leaden raft]

i cant open it

[potent portal]

Open what

[leaden raft]

call function. core #22 invalid DLL

[cyan ravine]

wot

[leaden raft]

i did run as administrator

riddle me that

[cyan ravine]

oh just press ok

until it goes away

it'll still work

or should still work

[leaden raft]

why does it pop up 25 times lol

[cyan ravine]

idk

32 threads in your cpu?

[leaden raft]

this right?

my computer is LAGGING

[cyan ravine]

oh no it's not

wrong config

anta777 extreme config

2020high is different

load coonfig and try again

[leaden raft]

?

Extreme1@anta777

this one

[cyan ravine]

yes

[leaden raft]

why is my pc lagging so much rn gah

[potent portal]

Because it's hitting every core 100% and filling your memory, it's supposed to do that

[leaden raft]

ok

[cyan ravine]

it's time to close the things you are doing and let it run until it's finished (will take a couple hours)

[leaden raft]

You mean no more fortnite???😭😭

[potent portal]

Just be glad we didn't suggest the pcbdestroyer profile

Took like 12 hours on my computer last I ran it

[leaden raft]

Where will I see errors

[potent portal]

In the box under where it says "start testing"

[leaden raft]

Okie

[potent portal]

Or a pop up dialog box

[leaden raft]

And if I don’t see any my rams not dead?

And I got a diff issue

[potent portal]

Probably not bad but memory is a pain to diagnose

[leaden raft]

Unless the tests take progressively longer this is flying

[potent portal]

It starts to combine the different tests as it progresses

[cyan ravine]

big red number in box

[cyan ravine]

it's something like, 25 or more tests in one cycle

[leaden raft]

Ah ok

So there’s no way to check the progress then

[cyan ravine]

you can

[leaden raft]

I c

[rustic linden]

Anyone know why when I enable launch csm mode, save it and exit, it turns back off?

[potent portal]

Probably because you have a UEFI OS installed

[rustic linden]

How do I fix that?

[potent portal]

Uninstall windows

[rustic linden]

I’m trying to install it

[potent portal]

CSM is for older operating systems and hardware that can't support UEFI

Like older than Windows 7 old

[rustic linden]

Is the bios outdated

Cuz I can’t install windows

[potent portal]

What's the error you're getting

[rustic linden]

I don’t have the system requorements

It doesn’t tell me what

[potent portal]

What processor do you have

[rustic linden]

I5 8400

[potent portal]

Ok yeah you'll need to enable TPM and secure boot

Newer versions of BIOS do that automatically but an older board might not

[rustic linden]

Secure boot is enabled

I turned on tpm 2.0

Let’s see if it works

[potent portal]

If it doesn't you can bypass the checks

[rustic linden]

Um pc isn’t posting anymore

Great

Is it like installing something?

It’s on but no post

[potent portal]

It's probably setting up the secure keys

[rustic linden]

I’d assume

I think this take a few minutes

[potent portal]

You might need to do something like set secure boot to custom mode and then back to standard

Or you can remake your windows USB using rufus and use the bypass option

[rustic linden]

It still hasn’t posted

[potent portal]

Right so you probably need to clear cmos

Did you check if there was an update for your bios?

[rustic linden]

No

[potent portal]

What model motherboard

[rustic linden]

B360m

[potent portal]

That's the chipset

[potent portal]

Asus Prime B360m-A

Ok that's a pretty old version of the bios

[rustic linden]

Just realized

[potent portal]

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/PRIME-B360M-A-ASUS-3202.ZIP?model=PRIME B360M-A

3 years newer

Says it supports windows 11 without changing settings now too

[rustic linden]

Can I put that and windows on the same usb?

[potent portal]

Yes

[rustic linden]

Alr

[leaden raft]

@potent portal @cyan ravine

Is this done?

[potent portal]

nope

[leaden raft]

Dang

So far so good tho eh?

[potent portal]

ye

[untold pecan]

what’s a good list of parts for liquid cooling pc

i currently have a NZXT starter pro PC with a kraken X in it

but it’s having issues with over heating

[mossy venture]

Custom loop?

There is not a single cpu or gpu that would require a custom loop

Is the case in that kit an h510 or h510 elite?

[rustic linden]

Damnit not enough space

[potent portal]

What, really? The bios is only a few MB

[untold pecan]

H510

[potent portal]

:h510:

[untold pecan]

sad beans

i wanted to do a prebuilt again but ima build a new pc and sell this nzxt pc

i have a parts list and it’s just expensive

[potent portal]

Dangit discord why you take my money and then no nitro

[leaden raft]

How do I know when I’m done

[rustic linden]

@potent portal

[lyric thistle]

most functional computer

[mossy venture]

How much do you want to spend

Do you need wifi, do you care about looks and if so what aesthetic would you like, what do you use the pc for, what resolution is your monitor/do you want a new one

[untold pecan]

3k , i do need wifi and i’d like a white theme , Im just using it for gaming with mediocre coding skills . i have a 2560x1440 monitor

[mossy venture]

Dope, do you want an aio?

Also how much storage would be suitable?

[untold pecan]

preferably 2 TB , i do want an AIO

[potent portal]

Just hit enter

[potent portal]

It'll tell you in a popup "testing completed, of errors not found" which is because the original programmer speaks russian natively

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mwDdFs

Plenty of other case options if you're not a fan of that one

You could do a 4090, but the cheapest right now is over 2k, which is very very much not worth it

Also I forgot to ask if you're in the US?

If you're not that list likely won't work

[untold pecan]

I am in the US

[mossy venture]

Ah alright

Could also do a 4080, but xtx is a lil bit better and is cheaper

Cheapest 4080 white last I checked is 1280 or so

Ah 1260

[potent portal]

Not a lot of white AMD cards though

[mossy venture]

If fine with black gpu, could do $1070 for a 4080 or $950 for an xtx

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PGWzK8/gigabyte-eagle-geforce-rtx-4080-16-gb-video-card-gv-n4080eagle-16gd
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GtXJ7P/xfx-speedster-merc-310-black-edition-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx-79xmercb9

[leaden raft]

thats what happened

so whats the issue

[high field]

Which option would be better for msfs

Ryzen 9 7900X 12 Core 24 Thread
Red Devil RX 7900 XTX
MSI Mag Mortar Mobo
Trident Z Neo 32GB 6000mhz CL30
Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360MM AIO
Corsair SF1000L
WD Black SN850X 2TB NVME
Arctic P12 Max Case Fans
ASUS AP201 Tempered Glass Case

Or
Ryzen 5800x3d 8 core 16 thread processor
Msi 4070 ti gaming x slim 12 GB
Corsair icue h100i elite capellix xt
Msi mag b550 tomahawk max WiFi atx am4 mobo
Team group t force 32 gb (4x8) ddr4-3200 cl16 memory
Team group t-force z 1 tb solid state drive
Corsair 5000d case
Evga supernova 750 gt
Corsair icue sp120 elite 47.7 com 120 mm fans

[potent portal]

Definitely 7900X + 7900 XTX

No contest

[high field]

For msfs

Cause it will be what’s it only used for

[potent portal]

Yes

The 7900 XTX beats the 4080, except in ray tracing which that game doesn't have iirc

Ah no it does have RT but you have to manually enable it?

[high field]

How would I do that

[potent portal]

There's a config file you have to edit

It's a beta feature so that's why it's not in the regular settings, ok that explains why I thought it didn't have it

[mossy venture]

Also why 7900x over 7800x3d?

If multi core is necessary 14700k

[potent portal]

Yeah bacca is right the 7800X3D would be the better CPU for gaming

I think it's a prebuilt system though

[high field]

Nah

It’s not a prebuilt

Just options from a few I’ve built

[potent portal]

In that case there's a LOT that I would change on that list

You could easily save $500 and get better performance

[high field]

From which pc

[potent portal]

The first one

[high field]

How

What would u do to build everything

For just Microsoft simulator

[mossy venture]

Answer these questions

And what's the budget

[high field]

Me?

[mossy venture]

Ye

I asked someone else but the same questions apply

So just easier to reply to it then type them out again

[high field]

Completely new build just for Microsoft simulator

[mossy venture]

Sorry for the blunt phrasing

[high field]

I want the graphics to look the best in ultra settings

It’s use is just for Microsoft simulator

[mossy venture]

But there's other things to consider

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sBYCrv

[mossy venture]

Like do you need wifi or are you using ethernet

[high field]

Ethernet

[mossy venture]

Do you care about aesthetics

And if so what look would you want

[high field]

Why not a liquid cooler?

I want it to last years

I don’t want it to reach high temperatures

[high field]

No not really performance and keeping it cool temperatures

[mossy venture]

Liquid coolers have a life span of 3-5 years typically

[potent portal]

This is exactly why not a liquid cooler

Plus the 7800X3D runs very cool, it runs on the stock Wraith cooler

So if anything a 5 pipe single tower is more than it needs

[mossy venture]

Psu is very overkill https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rR6Z28

Also mobo tbf

[high field]

?

[potent portal]

That's the style of air cooler I picked

5 heat pipes, single tower

[mossy venture]

Actually this mobo https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n8nypg/asrock-b650m-pg-riptide-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pg-riptide

Since you don't need wifi

Fals list is also really good

Can have your pick between the two or a mix thereof

[potent portal]

A dual tower looks like this

2 metal sections

So a single tower has just one

[high field]

What temperature does the fan stay at running msfs

If ur running ultra

[potent portal]

If you're running ultra then the GPU will be doing most of the work and the CPU will be chilling, maybe 60C tops

[high field]

What monitor would u recommend

[high field]

Oh ok

[potent portal]

How much are you willing to spend

$750 gets you an OLED these days I think

[high field]

Less then 500$

[mossy venture]

Would you rather 1440p 144hz, 1440p 240hz, or 4k144hz

And 27" or 31-32

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mQbTwP/gigabyte-m27q-p-270-2560x1440-170-hz-monitor-m27q-p

[mossy venture]

@high field

[high field]

Lemme see

[mossy venture]

^, m27q-x, 27qs, m32u

[high field]

This so stressful on what to get lol

[potent portal]

4k at ultra settings you're looking at 60 fps

[mossy venture]

Imo 27qs at $300 is what I'd go for

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TdbRsY/hp-omen-27qs-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-omen-27qs

[potent portal]

Which is perfectly acceptable for that game, but I prefer higher so I'd go 1440p

[mossy venture]

Though if it's literally just msfs you won't be getting over 144-170

So ye I'd agree with fal on m27q-p for 1440p

[high field]

Yeah same I want the best of best

[high field]

What do u guys thinks temps would be on the 2nd option

[potent portal]

Thermal limit

[high field]

What’s that mean

[high field]

So would this be my best option for monitor though?

[potent portal]

The highest the CPU allows itself to get, and the point where performance is reduced to produce less heat

The 5800X3D is one of the hottest CPUs right now

It throttles on everything but the best 360mm+ AIOs

[potent portal]

That's one of the best in category, even compared to higher priced monitors

And I did a little double checking and MSFS does prefer the 4080 over the 7900 XTX by a fair bit, which makes it one of the rare exceptions. So here's what you end up with now. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bXq2rv

Plus then you get frame gen if you want it

[high field]

Frame gen?

Also let me get back to u on everything u sent really like the build u made me I heard that graphics card pretty heavy 😂💀

https://youtu.be/2cDHiTplmH8?si=o-iG6gVAMh4UkxWw

This video I believe he uses the same card

But the 5800x3d

[potent portal]

DLSS 3.0 where it uses AI to generate every third frame. It can get a little muddy looking at low fps but it can be used to smooth things out.

[high field]

Oh on that monitor?

[potent portal]

Youtube is borked for me for some reason I don't want to deal with right now

[high field]

Oh

[potent portal]

No it's a Nvidia 40 series feature

[high field]

Oh

[potent portal]

So you could get the DLSS 3.0 by going nvidia instead of AMD for the GPU, which will also be good for when they take RT out of beta since Nvidia still pretty much wipes the floor with AMD in that.

And it's only an extra $100 so not too bad imo

And yes the GPU is heavy but you can add any kind of support to it and it's fine. Whether that's 3D printed, bought, or built out of Lego.

[tawdry lance]

What would you guys recommend for a gaming pc for around $1250 USD?

[potent portal]

1080p or 1440p? Wifi? Any other needs or preferences?

[tawdry lance]

1440p, no wifi, just a general gaming pc for all types of games.

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s7NH4M

[high field]

Do u have a suggestions for stands?

[mossy venture]

I was about to post one but thats better

[potent portal]

That $500-700 range on GPUs is pretty bad selection right now

But $600 for one of the best 6950 models is decent enough

[potent portal]

Like a GPU support?

[high field]

Got a quick question about that 2nd option I said in my original option what if I where to change the cpu to 7800x3d and change the motherboard

[high field]

Yeah

[potent portal]

You could go simple https://www.amazon.com/Graphics-Card-GPU-Support-Bracket/dp/B0BZ87YT7S
Or fancy https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Addressable-Graphics-Adjustable-G276ARGB/dp/B08YYB3WM2?th=1

[high field]

Thank you

[high field]

But keep everything else in the 2nd option I sent just change the cpu and mobo

[potent portal]

You'd need to change the memory too
But it's still a much worse GPU

[mossy venture]

Yeah, id say it's a toss up between that and 6800xt at 485

7900xt is down to 730 which isn't terrible

[potent portal]

That's only slightly out of reach for this budget though

[mossy venture]

It's decently ahead of 6950xt now, but still meh value

[high field]

Just why so to change the 4070 ti cause I heard it super good for msfs

[mossy venture]

Yeah this is the closest I could do with it https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xw4QRK

The 4080 fits in your budget very easily

And its much better value than the 4070 ti

[potent portal]

The XTX compares to the 4080 in msfs, not the 4070 ti which falls a good 15-20% behind

Which is why we're about to get a 4070 ti super that falls between the 4070 ti and 4080

💩

[obsidian wigeon]

for $900?

[potent portal]

Probably

[lost marsh]

Anyone have a mini itx build for around $1300, That can edit and create videos?

[potent portal]

What program

[high field]

I’ll let u know if I have any more questions but thank you very much for helping me out I very much appreciate as I was very confused on what to get

[potent portal]

What program would you be using for editing?

[lost marsh]

Adobe premiere pro

[potent portal]

Ok so that does prefer Nvidia

How big of a case can you do?

[lost marsh]

i was going to get the thermaltake tower 200 mini chassis

[potent portal]

How big are the projects in file size and/or resolution?

[potent portal]

I think this is about the best you could do https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4RDdFs

[high field]

@potent portal

What’s better for msfs 4070 ti or 4070

I know the ti better but is it worth extra 300$

[potent portal]

On 1440p ultra the 4070 will not be playable

Below 30 fps in the air, maybe 20 on the ground

[tepid crater]

@potent portal so here's one for you. Remember how my pc wasn't recognizing my SSD on boot and wouldn't boot from it? Now that I'm running off my HDD it's now showing my SSD as a viable storage with all my data still on it...kinda wondering if windows didn't shut down my pc on me since my windows 10 wasn't an active subscription before

[potent portal]

No that wouldn't do anything, that just keeps you from using the "personalization" menu

[tepid crater]

Wondering why it's decided to recognize it now though

[potent portal]

Bad drives can drop in and out

[tepid crater]

Think I'm gonna transfer all the data over to my HDD then while I can

[high field]

So would the TI be better?

[potent portal]

Very much so, but sheesh there's a lot of veriety in the results people are getting

I'm trying to find a more reliable source

One person with a 5800X3D went from a 4070 to a 4070 ti and got 25% more fps

[high field]

What’s the source is if u don’t mind me asking

[potent portal]

Some random on the flight sim forum

[high field]

Oh could u send a ss

[potent portal]

That's why I said I'm looking for a more reliable source

[high field]

Oh ok

There’s these 2 YouTube videos if u YouTube isn’t broken still

[potent portal]

I can try

[high field]

https://youtu.be/pENBbVzED3o?si=mhPsYM1YZPgt90MT

https://youtu.be/cQTcFRPMAGs?si=KDqL6vXvjAJucO0G

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

also my canadian friend wanted a red/black themed build w/ basically unlimited budget. made this for him and saved him like 1500 cad so far from his list he made, wanted thoughts

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ddHTrv

[potent portal]

Those numbers don't add up, the 70 ti should be getting fps in the 90s if the 4070 is in the low 70s but for some reason it's in the 60s? There's definitely inconsistency in the testing somewhere.

[high field]

Yeah kinda stuck on which one to get

Cause people say the 4070

Some people say 4070 to

Ti

[potent portal]

There's one that makes more sense https://youtu.be/bErFaei1LOI?si=fJSm0LC4Et6ydu-M&t=84

73 fps vs 89

[lone flame]

4070ti is only 12gb vram??

pffffffffft

[potent portal]

"only"

[lone flame]

ok but like

850usd for that

[potent portal]

Well yes that is one of the major complaints, but to add more memory for parity with AMD cards they'd have to redesign everything down to the core

[lone flame]

maybe they should of thought of that when actually designing it lol

[high field]

So do u think it’s worth the extra money to spend for the ti for msfs

[lone flame]

also can you look at this please @potent portal

[lone flame]

radeon has competitive options with more vram for cheaper unless you need the benefits nivida has

[high field]

Nah not getting a amd gpu

My pc is just for msfs

[pseudo pollen]

Everything seems fine, I can't do the conversion from cad to USD in my head though, and don't buy that windows key

[potent portal]

Personally yes, I think going from 70s fps to 90s is very noticeable, and once you turn on DLSS you'll actually be able to get closer to the monitor refresh rate so it doesn't tear as much.

[high field]

Sweet

[cyan ravine]

Would definitely say not the ram since this passed

Remind me what exactly was the behaviour again

I'm very tired lol

[potent portal]

Overpriced fans
Liquid cooling 100% unnecessary
Can go cheaper on memory, that CPU doesn't care
850W is overkill
Saved a couple hundred overall https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/syqM34

[cyan ravine]

Ditch the Y60, pick a Y40

[potent portal]

That was their choice for the theme

[cyan ravine]

Y60 is never good with air cooled large gpus

Try 4080 maybe, that's about it

[potent portal]

4080 is an extra 400 cad

[cyan ravine]

I mean if they insist it's whatever, but most people I see running high end in a Y60 run open case cos it's just that bad

I'd also go pick a <CL34 ram kit

[potent portal]

7800X3D really doesn't care, you'd be chasing the 1% at that point

[cyan ravine]

Yes but resale and longevity is actually advantageous

Instead of two or more ram kits, just one across several gens is possible

[potent portal]

Tell that to my 3200 c16

[cyan ravine]

Hi 3200 C16

Hynix ram can dial to 10K whereas samsung and Micron can dial to 6K

Boop

Colour matched is nice lol

Actually sapphire pulse would look better with the red accents

Oooo
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dNYKh3

Then a custom cable kit with red and charcoal @lone flame

Try asiahorse, cablemod, ezdiyfab

[flint sapphire]

Oooo I like that colorway, def pick up asiahorse cable extensions

[cyan ravine]

The one time red vulcan ram could look really nice

Maybe one more S12 fan for a full set of 7 for flair

[high field]

What do u think of the attic freezer pump instead of the fan

[obsidian wigeon]

not necessary

[high field]

Really

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

the cpu runs just fine on single tower air cooler

[high field]

Alright

What about the 7800x3d vs the 7950x3d

@obsidian wigeon

[obsidian wigeon]

for gaming it doesn't matter

[high field]

It’s for msfs only

[obsidian wigeon]

ye then 7800x3d should be fine

[high field]

The Ryzen 7 9550x3d is not better

[cyan ravine]

Zero reasons

Just stick with 7800x3d and a single tower

[high field]

Why not the 2 tower though

Wouldn’t it keep cooler

[potent portal]

Only slightly. Not enough to affect performance or longevity.

[high field]

Oh ok

ASUS tuf 4070 ti etc ti oc edition

Is it better then the msi 4070 ti gaming x slim

@potent portal

[potent portal]

Functionally they're the same, if they're a similar price then pick your favorite

[split cliff]

anyone else think i forgot something? (building pc)

[obsidian wigeon]

that's all you need

minus paste since coolers come with one

[cyan ravine]

Swap to arctic mx-6 it's way better than MX-4

Basically the same price as well

<Used both

[split cliff]

does AIO coolers come with it as well?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[split cliff]

how do u determine how much fans can connect to your motherboard

need to know that so i know if i need fan splitter cables

[obsidian wigeon]

you can get fans that you can daisy chain

[split cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vFGhP6/phanteks-d30-120-643-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-ph-f120d30_drgb_pwm_wt01_3p

do these come with the splitter cables?

the fans i bought are all in 3 packs

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

but oh god these fans are super overpriced

[analog hearth]

Bro getting the wrist strap 💀

Just plug your PSU in and touch it every once in a while if you don't feel comfortable without a wrist strap

[olive cypress]

Is this... Good?
Or is it going to become rtx 4000 experience with the power cable?

[obsidian wigeon]

that looks like hazard

[cyan ravine]

The problem with 40 series was the cable plug not seated

It looks seated so doubt it

Pcie cabled have enough redundancy that a couple 12v pins could slip out and the pc is still ok (some gpus/psus will recognise this and shut down the pc)

[olive cypress]

I'll take that

[high field]

Which one is going to keep my the coolest out of all of these 3 because I don’t want any issues with my new pc running hot

Cause I’m worried it might get to hot with the thermalight assassin

[cyan ravine]

what I've been trying to say is they'll all run the cpu at the same temperature and same performance

upgrading makes basically no difference because the cooling bottleneck isn't the cooler

[mossy venture]

Ag620 but what cpu is it

Oh 7800x3d

[high field]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

watch this video for the first 5 minutes and it will show you what I'm talking about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgiBcD7bBaw

[mossy venture]

The single tower is fine, but if you really want a better cooler either ag620 or phantom spirit

Am5 is limited by the ihs thickness, and thermal transfer

[cyan ravine]

it runs at basically max performance even on the stock cooler

[mossy venture]

Meaning past a certain point it literally just can't transfer heat any better

[cyan ravine]

yes so pretty much all coolers give the same result

[high field]

So then which one of the 3 would I be having the best temperatures and would last longer

[cyan ravine]

all the same

[high field]

How so

[cyan ravine]

^

look this graph

[mossy venture]

If you want to feel better about the cooling, just get the ag620.

[high field]

Is the single tower just fine though

From the ag620

[cyan ravine]

yes

[high field]

What’s the graph representing sorry

[cyan ravine]

performance

box cooler vs a 240mm aio

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbrain-images-ssl.cdn.dixons.com%2F2%2F2%2F10177122%2Fu_10177122.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=86db7fc02eb7b2ce06a8ee144967860a842c80b549edbf0f4bdab304bea18a14&ipo=images

this vs. this

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fd3fa68hw0m2vcc.cloudfront.net%2F39b%2F233963739.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=62fa1f757985b89a2b37e11ed1e662e3497a32187c72fd5af0ff67a54689f3b0&ipo=images

it only runs a couple degrees hotter but the performance is identical

i.e making it cooler does absolutely nothing

[high field]

The box coolers?

[cyan ravine]

yes

the one that comes in the amd box

[high field]

Still don’t understand the graph kinda sorry

[cyan ravine]

those are all extreme stress tests

pushes the cpu way harder than any game will

and they use scores to determine performance

the resulting score across both test cases is the cpu performs within 1% of itself, basically whether it had a super cooling solution, or an ice block

[high field]

Oh ok but which one on the graph is the the aio and which one is the box coolers

[cyan ravine]

it's labelled lol

[high field]

So inclusion the box coolers are better then the aio

[cyan ravine]

*as good

as good

because the 7800x3d is not limited by the cooling, but by it's own design

so overspending on cooling makes no sense at all

it should still run within the spec under torturous conditions for a number of years regardless if it's 86C, or 77C, or 50C

it's designed to behave like that

[high field]

Ok thank you so much appreciate the help I order everything last night just want to make sure the single would be very good for me

[cyan ravine]

It's ok. If you understand, it was worth it 😂

[high field]

Yeah for sure

[cyan ravine]

And I can say as someone with a 7000X3D and a custom loop

I got the scars

Lol

[high field]

Oh nice

Another quick question which ssd would u recommend also this entire setup is for msfs only

[cyan ravine]

cheaper than that but decent

make a list in here

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

of what you bought

I might make some suggestions

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VxfFf7/silicon-power-a60-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp002tbp34a60m28
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/srvD4D/solidigm-p41-plus-1-tb-m2-2230-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ssdpfpnu010tz01
One of these two would be far better bang for the buck

[high field]

Let me get back to you in 20 mins if that’s all good with u

So I can make a pc part maker

[cyan ravine]

ok

[high field]

@cyan ravine

[mossy venture]

Why is that 4080 so expensive

[high field]

I got it for 1k don’t worry

lol

[mossy venture]

Ah alright

[cyan ravine]

ok

I would change

motherboard, case, fans

the rest is solid

[mossy venture]

Also you don't have to pay for windows, especially if you've already had a windows 7 or newer device.

[high field]

Case I won’t change I know it’s overpriced and same with fans

[mossy venture]

You just download windows to a USB, install it, and then log in to your Microsoft account

[high field]

I got windows 11 pro on my 1070 pc rn lol

[mossy venture]

Corsair icue is absolutely trash by the way

[high field]

This new pc will be a huge upgrade

[mossy venture]

Like

It's malware

It actively hurts your performance

[high field]

I know all of u guys hate them but many pcs I have are corsair never have had a problem

[high field]

Just curious why the motherboard

[mossy venture]

Brand means nothing, models are what matters

And just bc you haven't had issues with them doesn't mean there isn't better

The case is fine, psu is fine, just their fans are such bad performance at that price

[high field]

True

[mossy venture]

$13 3 pack c12c beats them

[high field]

Yeah but just wondering about the mobo I got

[mossy venture]

The mobo isn't bad just really expensive

[cyan ravine]

as I explained before, the $125 options are just as good as the 300$, 500$, 900$ options

[mossy venture]

$110 b650 hdv can run a 7950x3d without issue

[cyan ravine]

it's just overspending

the $100 A620m Gaming x can run a 7950x stock without problems

performance is within the same range

like you'd have to give me a really good reason to agree with spending more than $150 on an AM5 motherboard

[high field]

I’ll think about the mother board but still stuck on the m2.ssd

[cyan ravine]

the SSD I already gave two suggestions

[cyan ravine]

^

[mossy venture]

Mp33, a60, m371, m450, m480, p41 plus, ud85

[high field]

Are none of them from Amazon

What’s the difference from the m2.sad I showed from urs just curious

[cyan ravine]

much better value for very little real world performance difference

go back to the cooler thing

it's spending a lot for basically no benefit

[mossy venture]

If you want gen 4 to have gen 4, ud85 is reasonably priced atm

Or was yesterday anyways

[leaden raft]

yo

idk if you saw

that ram test came back no error

[cyan ravine]

I did but was tired

and I'm not sure what the issue was

I sort of just, inserted myself into that convo following along

[leaden raft]

oh ok

you seemed knowledgable about the software so i appreciate the help

[cyan ravine]

I mean

assuring your ram is ok is a big step

in most of any pc diagnosis

so it's not wasted

I'm just unclear what the initial problem was

[leaden raft]

just awful performance

even when not in games or anything

[cyan ravine]

this is x570 iirc ye?

[leaden raft]

like discord open was enough to see my cursor skipping

[leaden raft]

the mobo?

[cyan ravine]

mhm

[leaden raft]

i do beliebe

[cyan ravine]

try adding a positive voltage offset

either through curve optimiser (best way) or straight core voltage

this is NOT a static setting

static is bad

avoid static voltage and static overclocking

only do offset

[high field]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VxfFf7/silicon-power-a60-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp002tbp34a60m28

[cyan ravine]

good drive

I've recommended it for years now

[high field]

What’s the difference from this

Forgot what u said

[mossy venture]

gen 4 doesn't make a difference for gaming

or download speeds unless you have incredibly fast internet

[cyan ravine]

yeah, to keep it simple, it's basically, you spend all that extra for basically zero improvements in a gaming pc

[mossy venture]

you might notice a second or two boot time, but still sn850x is not good value at that price. 1tb gen 4 ssds tend not to be

[cyan ravine]

@leaden raft btw when I say this, don't go more than say, +10 on the curve optimiser, or +0.050V on the voltage offset

too much can be a REALLY BAD THING

but this should be relatively fine

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pJ3gXL/teamgroup-t-force-cardea-z44q-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpq002t0c327 this would be my choice for a gen 4 drive atm

[cyan ravine]

Windows has an iOPS limit

iOPS iirc is, instruction operations per second

every ssd and hdd runs up to a certain degree of iOPS

[high field]

My speeds are 800-900 mbps

[cyan ravine]

and basically once you pass this, going higher makes no difference to your pc experience except in extremely niche scenarios

[high field]

Wouldn’t I want a gen 5 since my pc am5

[cyan ravine]

like extreme internet speeds, large single files in the gigabytes on constant copying, rendering and video editing for a job

very very niche scenarios that 99% of people don't experience

[mossy venture]

No

That has nothing to do with eachother

[cyan ravine]

and that, when it comes to gaming pc's, stops at sata ssd's.

i.e windows can't leverage better iOPS than numbers that can be achieved by even sata ssd's, let alone gen 3, gen 4, gen 5 ssd's

so you run into a bottleneck

[high field]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vXLdnQ/silicon-power-ud85-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp01kgbp44ud8505

[cyan ravine]

the funny result is a basic ass ssd can really run to the same speeds as a top of the line ssd in normal conditions

and a gaming pc falls right into this use case

[high field]

Also keep in mind this pc is just for Microsoft simulator later as well

[cyan ravine]

yeah

[high field]

My game alone is 500gb

[cyan ravine]

I know

but you can definitely cheap out a little on the ssd

going gen 4, gen 5 just for the advertised speeds is a marketing trap that the industry has set for consumers

[high field]

Oh these ssd are only if I wanna cheap out on it?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

it's perfectly fine to run a budget gen 4 ssd

[cyan ravine]

no my point is you can cheap out and have basically the same results

just like the cheap cooler

you're only playing a game

go with a solidigm p41 plus at most

[high field]

Alright I’ll buy that one

Can u send the link again

[strong raft]

Should wait for next week, lol.

[little osprey]

Contemplating if 13600K and 7800 XT was the best I could do for 1440p

Granted at the time of buying my CPU it was cheaper than a 7800X3D

[high field]

This one @cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

yes and that's not a bad price either

bit high

about $5 too high

[high field]

But this one would be my best option to get then that one I sent a picture of earlier?

Cause they are both the same

Just one is more then the other

[cyan ravine]

they are basically the same in games

[high field]

Why do u say basically?

Cause I want the one that will be better performance and will last longer and won’t have any problems

[cyan ravine]

because I can say 99.9999% the same

but I can't say 100%

so "basically"

[cyan ravine]

there's no "last longer" in any of these decisions

all pc hardware is made to last a set life by the manufacturer

If you're thinking I'm giving you advice to pick a 10 year ssd over a 5 year one, no one not heavily invested in the pc space would have the knowledge of that

futureproofing is almost completely a myth in the pc space

[high field]

Yeah that’s true

But thank you so much I will go ahead and purchase the other one

[high field]

^

[cyan ravine]

souunds good lad

you're saving yourself good money with each little change here

money you can put into other things, or just keep for yourself

while you enjoy the same experience

it's the most of what I like to see around here, good value buying

[olive cypress]

Problems... E V E R Y W H E R E.
I don't know if this is a coincidence but I was running my sleeper build with heaven benchmark to monitor gpu temps, side panel was off, I then wanted to try the temps with it on, as soon as It made contact with the pc it bluescreened wtf
Error is "System_service_exception"
Was it just a big coincidence? Or some strange stuff happening with the cables inside maybe
Idk

[potent portal]

Loose cable on something is my guess

[olive cypress]

I mean, there only are two cables directly on the side that get squished (not much) by the panel as I close it but they're just the graphics card cables (cables, not the connectors)... I'm trying again in a few minutes

Why every pc I own and build has a problem uuhh
Maybe I'm the problem :PepeHands:

[winged crystal]

I was looking to get additional pcie cables and each one i look at says "for this power supply only" do i have to get power supply specific cords or can i get any ?

[pseudo pollen]

You're not alone, I've built and rebuilt my pc and both times it's had problems (probably due to bad ram/windows) but whenever I build someone else's it's worked fine.

[winged crystal]

@mossy venture

[mossy venture]

Specific to psu

Some manufacturers have a few psus that use the same cables

Like corsair rm, rmx, rme, and a couple others use the same cables

What psu is it?

[winged crystal]

Thats a shame. Ok.

be quiet! Straight Power 11 850W Fully Modular 80 PLUS Gold Silent Power Supply

[mossy venture]

Yeah contact be quiet

[olive cypress]

Mmmh
Likely a strange coincidence

[winged crystal]

Totally got (for the old pre built) a coolmaster and thermaltake only cable and used it. The prebuilt is the trident 3 and uses an external power supply like a laptop :p

[mossy venture]

Yeah that's a big nono

Like, major no no

[winged crystal]

Oh

Well its been going strong for 2 months running almost 24/7

[olive cypress]

These are some surprising temps considering the GPU has almost no space to breath

Yeah
It's slowly getting worse

Barely hits 69 nice
But is really really loud

[high field]

Should I get the small or large gpu support

[cyan ravine]

either or

you need it for a gigabyte 40 series

[high field]

Yeah

[high field]

Fs cause there so heavy wait does mine already come with one?

Cause I heard some of the 40 series they do

[cyan ravine]

no clue

but gigabyte card's are fragile around the slot, they need the extra support

like need it

[high field]

Yeah I’ll definitely be getting one just cause I spend so much money on a graphics card I don’t want it to sag

Would u suggest I get the small or large support

Not sure which one to get

I got the 5000d corsair case

[cyan ravine]

I have no idea either

[modest arrow]

Cpu: https://geni.us/KQIR ($94)
GPU: https://geni.us/cEBWU ($259)
Motherboard: https://bit.ly/453ULnZ ($76)
Memory: https://bit.ly/44YBKn2 ($33)
Storage: https://geni.us/hmuvpYA ($48)
Psu: https://geni.us/GnuA3 ($33)
Case: https://bit.ly/451srm2 ($61)
Psu cables: https://geni.us/aMvR ($20)

Rate the 650 dollar budget pc?

Half of the parts are on Amazon and the other newegg

[high field]

Oh definitely probably the large the small I think is way to small

[mossy venture]

Geni.us links aren't working for me

Assuming 12100f and 7600 by the prices?

If you could use tiktok shop I think you could do a lil bit better, but thats ntb

Though I also don't know what the psu is, which is important

This is with estimates, since there are coupons you can use and prices are already lower than basically anywhere else

It's all sold by newegg through tiktok shop
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QD3YWt

Except gpu

And can do cheaper with 16gb ram or 1tb ssd

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VnnRFs

[pseudo pollen]

I wanna make a pc with some parts that I already have (12400, nr400, p12's, ssd)

[manic cloak]

6800xt sapphire for 350$ used?

any good?

it is from 2021 though..

[mossy venture]

Pretty decent

[manic cloak]

apparently he put in storage after 5 months but no clue how long

[untold pecan]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KbVp34

i edited homeboys parts list he made for me

how is it

[mossy venture]

Not great

Are you gaming?

[untold pecan]

OOF

ya i am

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DyhH4M

The aio isn't needed but I figured you wanted the aesthetic of one

Went with a similar case look, but nv7 is a lot better airflow wise than h9 elite

[untold pecan]

ohhh thank you

[mossy venture]

H9 or h7 flow wouldn't be a bad choice

If you've any questions about the changes lmk

[untold pecan]

i enjoy the open glass look

[mossy venture]

O11d and it's variants are also a good choice

[untold pecan]

thank you!

would upping the cpu do anything

[mossy venture]

Nah 7800x3d actually beats the 7900x3d at ties

[untold pecan]

thank you so much

[mossy venture]

Happy to!

Also two other things

[untold pecan]

what’s up

[mossy venture]

One, mobo doesn't have wifi so acrually I'd switch it to b650 aero g if you don't have ethernet

And if you're open to an amd gpu, the 7900xtx slightly beats the 4080 and is cheaper

$950 for a black one and $1070 for a white one

[languid nimbus]

Question, I’ve got a 2tb hdd currently. Wanting to replace it with an ssd. If I do so, is there an easy way just to copy everything from my hdd onto the ssd? Is it as easy as literally just “copy+paste” onto the new drive?

[mossy venture]

Nah, but macrium reflect would do it for you

Free program

[untold pecan]

ASUS ROG B650 correct

[languid nimbus]

Ah sweet, I’ll screenshot that so I can download it

Thanks!

[mossy venture]

Gigabyte b650 g

One sec lemme see if I'm being stupid

Ah it's not as cheap as it was, not worth anymore

The b650m pro rs wifi would be fine for you, $125, but if you want smthn nicer, you dont see the mobo color much https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ng2WGX/asrock-b650m-pg-riptide-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pg-riptide-wifi

Or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tz2WGX/asrock-b650e-pg-riptide-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650e-pg-riptide-wifi

[untold pecan]

I added the E

2300 is still really good for my price

i’m trying to sell my starter pro pc from nzxt and use that to pay for most of it

thank you a lot for helping me

[abstract torrent]

-i5 11400f 2.6 GHz

-MSI RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G OC

-Corsair vengeance rgb pro sl 16gb (2x8) DDR4

-MSI B560-A PRO ATX Motherboard

-Lexar NM610 PRO 500GB ssd

-XIGMATEK Master X Pro with4 ARGB FANS + X-POWER 700W

is this a good build?

[obsidian wigeon]

what's the price?

[modest arrow]

Oh dang thanks

[analog hearth]

@torn peak better than my build

[manic cloak]

This is only 700$ at my local Best Buy.. Should I pick one up?https://www.amazon.com/OMEN-Generation-i7-10700KF-Processor-GT13-0080/dp/B08KHNNLDK

[mossy venture]

thats pretty good, but upgradability is nonexistent in those builds

[potent portal]

HP would find a way to make proprietary PCIe if they could, but they settled for everything else

[mossy venture]

with tiktok shop tho, can do this with a used 3080/6800xt or similar https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dCJ389

12600k is also 150 or so rn could swap to that

[winged crystal]

The pc im building for a coworker post :). I found my test bench psu wasn't sufficient enough to get the one im building for myself to post... have to wait for the gpu imma use to come in on monday for proper test

[little osprey]

@potent portal lookin good?

[potent portal]

Looks ok to me

[little osprey]

alr 👍🏾

[burnt stratus]

Baby aio

Will handle the 3000g fine

[little osprey]

all thats needed for a 3000G 😭

[burnt stratus]

Barely even needs a cooler bruh

Just blow on it

[potent portal]

Yeah honestly you don't even need to screw down the cooler, just set the heatsink on top of it

[blissful gorge]

Hello, can somebody help me i just finished the pc and it doesnt turn on, the cpu cooling fan works and the psu but the gpu doesnt

[little osprey]

Do you only have one eight pin plugged into the GPU?

[earnest olive]

that would do it lol

those power inputs are not optional

[pseudo pollen]

Also work on cable management

[mossy venture]

Very solid but imo I would change some things. Atx mobo wint help you. What are you using the pc for?

I'd do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FvbBrv

7600 beats the 13400f by a decent bit in gaming, and stock cooler is fine. That mobo can run a 7950x3d fine, it'll be able to run 8000 series cpus at least, and possibly whatever gen comes after that, so you have an upgrade path

Ram is slightly better, not a major difference but also cheaper so why not. Storage, gen 4 doesn't make a difference for gaming, so did a 2tb gen 3 drive instead. Gpu, all 40 series gpus are kinda overbuilt, meaning even the worst models don't overheat

So can save the $35 there. 7800xt at $485-500 is also a good choice (imo better choice than 4070, but thats just me. If you want nvidia, 4070 at $515 isn't terrible)

If you want an nvidia cpu, 12600kf is $140 atm

And is solid

It's just a gen older 13400f essentially

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r84rcH

Sorry last thing, I just saw this sale, this psu would be fine too, and when you upgrade in the future you won't need a 12vphwr adapter, but the rm750e is a better quality psu https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CC3QBGDL

[earnest olive]

nothing wrong with silicon power ram

i've personally bought and used more than 10 kits from them

there are very little differences between different models of the same GPU

the differences matter a bit more if you plan to overclock, but even then it's not that major

main considerations should just be the company's warranty policy, aesthetics, price, noise

i've overclocked at least one gpu from every major manufacturer

the differences in performance really only matter if you're doing competitive oc

[earnest olive]

nvidia cpu

but yeah, bacca knows what they're talking about

just in case an additional vouch would make you feel better about it

[mossy venture]

Yes nvidia cpu

My favorite

[earnest olive]

nvidia cpus are a thing... not sure if i would recommend them for a typical consumer