#building-and-recc-chat

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cyan ravine
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Occt cpu small extreme steady fixed threads, all threads

earnest olive
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occt power is nice for stressing cpu and gpu simultaneously

cyan ravine
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And occt 3d standard, difficulty 8, utilisation 98%

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Oh yeah power

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Just do that

earnest olive
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can be good for testing your case airflow lol

cyan ravine
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Oops

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I forgot they had a combined test omfg

restive halo
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Downloading now

cyan ravine
cyan ravine
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I'm getting old ig

earnest olive
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alright grandpa let’s get you to bed

restive halo
cyan ravine
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Think I will sleep ye

restive halo
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What should I run

cyan ravine
earnest olive
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right I forgot it’s actually nighttime for you lmao

cyan ravine
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Then press start

earnest olive
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I just got out of a lecture that had no right to be as heavy as it was at 8am

cyan ravine
earnest olive
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filled out 4 pages of notes

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and my handwriting is really small

restive halo
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How long do I let it run

earnest olive
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until you’re satisfied lol

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you really don’t need to run thermal testing on your pc unless you’re suspecting an actual problem

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so if you’re just doing this for your own satisfaction then only you can answer your own question

restive halo
potent portal
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Looks perfectly fine to me. GPU is a tad warm but completely within spec.

restive halo
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Heard thank you

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It's also registering the AMD Radeon graphics and then the 4070ti graphics separately

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Is that normal. I have never used this program

potent portal
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Normal

restive halo
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Ok

potent portal
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Your CPU also includes a basic integrated GPU

restive halo
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Just like to check everything

earnest olive
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what model 4070ti is that?

restive halo
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MSI Gaming trio

earnest olive
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huh

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didn’t realize the cooling on that model was that underbuilt

mossy venture
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Also just out of curiosity, what cooler for the cpu? Stock?

earnest olive
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that temperature made me think it was a blower model

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or maybe your case is restrictive? idk

mossy venture
earnest olive
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either way it’s not a dangerous temp

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just higher than I’d expect

potent portal
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It's probably a "silent" fan curve by default

earnest olive
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under 2 minutes of load

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I hope so lol

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that cooler looks pretty beefy, they would have had to screw up the design enormously to get temps like that at higher fan speeds

minor cypress
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Question for anyone that might have an answer. In order for me to do a BIOS flashback on my motherboard, do I have to have another computer to download the file to a usb so I can BIOS flashback the new motherboard???

FYI, I never built a gaming computer before and I’m watching a YouTube video from “PC Builder” that is helping me along with my new gaming computer

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I guess another good question is, does every motherboard have to be flashed if I bought it new right out of the box?

The motherboard I bought is brand new called “ASRock B650 Pro RS WI-FI”

potent portal
minor cypress
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Currently have all my computer parts laid out on a table. I was waiting for a reply before I start to put things together ☺️

potent portal
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Yes you're fine to continue

minor cypress
potent portal
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Flashback doesn't require having other things on the board besides power but it won't hurt if they are on, in case you did need to flash

minor cypress
potent portal
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Good luck, feel free to ask if you have other questions

thorn mural
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recommendations for gpu thermal pads?

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I need a little bit of both 1mm and 0.5mm thickness

potent portal
restive halo
potent portal
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Update your Intel chipset drivers

restive halo
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This computer starts up and the as soon as you log in this pops up and you can't use your mouse or keyboard

potent portal
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Start it in safe mode and update it

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If windows fails to start 3 times, it'll go to the advanced menu where you can select safe mode

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So hit the reset button when it tries to start 3 times until the menu comes

restive halo
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no reset button. It's led

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F2

potent portal
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Holding the power button to force shut down works

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Alternative options exist if you have a windows install USB ready

restive halo
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I do

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I have a boot usb

potent portal
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Startup settings
Safe mode

thorn mural
# potent portal I went with these personally, but anything right around that W/mK rating https:/...
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the w/mk is like half

potent portal
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That's enough for GDDR6 but not GDDR6X

thorn mural
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ah i never specificed the gpu

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my bad

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Its going on gddr5

potent portal
potent portal
# thorn mural Its going on gddr5

GDDR5 only uses about 2.5W so 6 W/mK should be sufficient.
However the one I linked is only a little bit more cost and far better. Your choice.

thorn mural
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I need both 1mm and 0.5mm tho

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So if i do need a g6x pad ill go with what you sent but for now i think the owltree one has better value

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Thx for the input

potent portal
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Fair enough. Happy to help.

restive halo
potent portal
restive halo
potent portal
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Gotcha. What CPU?

restive halo
potent portal
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Ok so still Ryzen

restive halo
potent portal
restive halo
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Signal I think

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Server address could not be found

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Not registering internet I don't think

minor cypress
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@potent portal I have a feeling my psu cables are not compatible with my M/B unless I’m blind

minor cypress
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I’ll take a pic so it’s easier to see. This is my first time building a gaming computer, so I’m not good at explaining things.Lol

restive halo
minor cypress
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@restive halo

So I took a picture of my motherboard I’m pretty sure that’s the area of where the cable plugs into and then I also took a picture of the PSU where the motherboard should plug into

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And when I’m looking at my cables, it doesn’t look like I have the one I need

restive halo
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On the motherboard that looks like your cpu port

minor cypress
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Ohh lol ok

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I must be blind lol. Let me look at my manual

restive halo
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Is there a cord labled on the plug cpu

potent portal
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The 24 pin motherboard one goes on the right side of the board

potent portal
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The CPU 8 pin will be the one that breaks into 4+4 cables

restive halo
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He is looking for his cpu cord at the moment

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6+2 is pcie

minor cypress
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Falcie is correct of what I was asking about

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Sorry I didn’t know how to phrase my question right

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That first picture I assumed is where I connect the psu to MB

restive halo
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Ok well the port you took a picture of on the psu is the 24 pin but the pic on the motherboard is 8 which is your cpu

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All good.

minor cypress
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I’m going on three hours and I have yet to put my motherboard in my case lol

restive halo
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It should be in your case if your wiring the psu

minor cypress
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I’m watching a YouTube video from PC builder and pausing and rewinding

restive halo
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Unless your testing

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@potent portal I don't think mine is registering the internet for some reason in safe mode

minor cypress
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Here is the area where I plug my psu I believe what falcie was talking about which is 24 pin

restive halo
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Yes

minor cypress
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So the other end of connection to my PSU Hass to be a 10 pin or 18 pin?

potent portal
potent portal
minor cypress
potent portal
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And you picked safe mode with networking?

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You can always disable the RGB app in safe mode so it doesn't trigger the driver warning, and download in regular mode

restive halo
minor cypress
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What does EPS stand for? In terms of cables

potent portal
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Entry-Level Power Supply Specification

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It's one of those acronyms that's lost it's meaning and the meaning never mattered to begin with lol

obsidian wigeon
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eps just means it's for cpu basically

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don't think too hard

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don't plug it into your gpu

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or you'll melt the connectors

potent portal
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Normally you can't do that anyway because of the keying

obsidian wigeon
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right

potent portal
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But I've seen some lazy power supply designs where you could...

obsidian wigeon
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that's why i say to never mistake em kekw

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toasty gpu smell

potent portal
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tbf it would just trip scp

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shorted 12V to ground

obsidian wigeon
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fair enough

potent portal
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Still a scary experience, and some power supplies don't even have short circuit protection

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(We'll never, ever recommend one that doesn't have that)

restive halo
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@potent portal

potent portal
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Ok so as a stopgap disable (or uninstall) anything having to do with RGB

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That could be EVGA software, openrgb, motherboard software, lots of things can access it

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iCue is another

restive halo
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Looks like MobiGame might be causing it.

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No rgb software showing up installed?

potent portal
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It might not be obvious

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For example EVGA Precision X1 accesses that driver

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So does Logitech software

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If it's unclear just disable all startup programs

restive halo
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Dragon Center

potent portal
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That'll do it

restive halo
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Delet it

potent portal
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I would

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It's basically useless bloatware

restive halo
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He uses it for his rgb

potent portal
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You can control the RGB using openrgb, it's lighter impact on the system and has way more options. Plus it doesn't spy on you.

restive halo
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Ok I'll put it on there for him

potent portal
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Oh and when you uninstall dragon center I recommend using revo uninstaller to do it

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MSI loves to leave behind little pieces of itself without telling you

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Which of course interferes with other software

minor cypress
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@potent portal OK I’m ready to put my motherboard in my case. Do I need to remove these standoffs?

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I’m using MicroATX MB

potent portal
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You can take out the bottom 2

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But you don't have to

minor cypress
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Ok.

I also think I need to rearrange the middle 2 because they don’t line up with the MB That’s the way it was. I haven’t touched anything yet.

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Oh actually, never mind

potent portal
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Yeah it looks that way. You'll want them on the M peg holes

minor cypress
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Ahh ok

potent portal
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It looks like that case also allows you to slide the board down a little to make more room at the top for liquid cooling, if you're doing that

minor cypress
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No liquid cooling for now. Just a normal fan cooler.

potent portal
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Ok, stick with the 7 and 7M holes then

minor cypress
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Do I have to use all eight holes on my motherboard? @potent portal

potent portal
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No

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Technically speaking you could get away with as few as 2

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But more is good to be more secure

minor cypress
restive halo
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@potent portal Deleted Dragon center

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Still crashed and won't let me install

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Going back to safe mode. I might have to do a fresh install. 😬

potent portal
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Next thing to try would be disabling all startup programs

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If that doesn't help still then yeah you might have to go nuclear

restive halo
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Ugh lol

potent portal
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I know Avast will throw a huge fit if you try to uninstall it and probably make you log in to the account to approve the uninstall so that's probably out

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Unless you do have access to said account

restive halo
potent portal
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Ah so it let you this time

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Good, that means you can narrow down the misbehaving program to something that was in the auto startup menu

restive halo
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Sorry. I did not realize that was a bad word. I apologize

potent portal
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That's what the bot is for. It happens.

restive halo
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So one of his aps was breaking crap.

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@potent portal lol found it first try I was right lol Mobi games playstore

potent portal
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Welp sketchy launcher doing sketchy things

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I know that driver can be exploited to hide a crypto miner virus

restive halo
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Of course lol

jagged ember
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It can check for residual files and registry things apps leave behind

restive halo
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Thank you all as always

rustic linden
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If i am selling my computer and need to get rid of the data on my ssd. How do i do it while keeping windows on it?

potent portal
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Yes that, and if you want the data to be unrecoverable run a secure wipe of your free space after. Since it's a SSD only do one pass or you can ruin the nand. CCleaner is one tool that can do it.

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Technically you can just run the SSD TRIM command and get similar results.

viral horizon
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can i please get some help

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i just put the cpu and my cpu cooler in my computer

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the motherboard is put on

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the 8 pin cpu connector is on

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the 24 pin is on

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and the caseport where the fans are connected, led switch, p switch are they all are connected to a sata connector

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please it wont turn on

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i dont want 1000 bucks to go to waste

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pelase

jagged ember
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Did you flip the PSU switch

viral horizon
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yes

jagged ember
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Did you plug the display into the GPU

viral horizon
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ive turned it on and off

viral horizon
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the cpu has igpu

jagged ember
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Okay

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Probably plugged in front panel io wrong

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So just pull that all out, take a screwdriver, confirm the location of the power switch pins

viral horizon
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i hope it didnt but i set my motherboard on my bed when working on it

jagged ember
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And put your screwdriver between the two power pins

viral horizon
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it had styrofoam under however

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and the led works for the motherboard

jagged ember
viral horizon
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so whats a psu pin

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this is the one i got

jagged ember
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Try shorting the power pins first with a screwdriver or knife

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On front panel io on the motherboard

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Refer to the manual

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And take a pic before you do it just in case

viral horizon
jagged ember
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Ask if you do not understand

viral horizon
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or just the motherboard in general

jagged ember
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So remember the stupid little bundle of cables that fit one or two pins

viral horizon
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yeah

jagged ember
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That extend from the case itself

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And plug into a small set of pins

viral horizon
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yes

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oh thats what you mean

jagged ember
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But are really hard to get plugged in right?

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Yeah those

viral horizon
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yeah

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i have the port connector plugged into a sata connector i think

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but i resecured everything, i turned on the psu

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i press the power and yea

jagged ember
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These

viral horizon
jagged ember
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Yep

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Id check your motherboard manual for the front io pin layout

viral horizon
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let me switch them then

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alright

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thank you

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be right back

jagged ember
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I just need you to short the power sw ones

strong raft
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Commonly the 3rd & 4th pin from left on the upper row. Fpanel is also usually bottom right of mobo

jagged ember
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Fair, but still check your manual to be sure

strong raft
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Or also look at the mobo, it's often labeled. kek

jagged ember
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True, sometimes silkscreened into the pcb

viral horizon
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IT WORKS

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HOLY CRAP

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FINALLY

plucky timber
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It's always the front panel headers

potent portal
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That is often a good starting point for "doesn't turn on at all"

plucky timber
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This is the third case I've seen in the last 5 weeks

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I mean they are really annoying

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there should just be a standard

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Like it can be backwards compatible

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Just merge the headers all into one thing

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The layout could be the same it's just less confusing

potent portal
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Well there is a standard. But Asus in their infinite wisdom decided they don't need to listen to the standards and made a giant connector for no reason. Then Gigabyte followed suit.

lethal tapir
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They saw apples proprietary cables and connectors and thought "yeah that's not stupid at all"

plucky timber
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💀

potent portal
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"10 pin connector? Nah lets do a 20 pin, that won't take up too much space and we can say it's better because different."

plucky timber
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What

lethal tapir
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How much money did yall "save" by designing, testing, and specially manufacturing proprietary plastic clips instead of using standard

plucky timber
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Do you need 4 pin for the power button lol?

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Asus moment

potent portal
plucky timber
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Oh it's one of those

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💀

potent portal
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Because everyone knows if you want to combine the normal 10 pin header with the 4 pin speaker header you need a 20 pin header to do it

plucky timber
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Just

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Literally put it next to the 10 pin header

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Asus moment

potent portal
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Both of these are X570 too

plucky timber
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the industry should come together

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And make a single plug for the 10 pin

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Like there's no virtually difference across boards

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Saves time trying to plug in several tiny little headwrs

potent portal
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Some cases do come with a single header

plucky timber
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fr?

jagged ember
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Yeah there's like some cases with one fat header for it

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Could probably count the number of cases with that on both hands

lethal tapir
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It's too good

potent portal
# plucky timber fr?

If you look closely at the asus 20 pin connector there's 2 sets of pins that do the same thing. They had to modify their 20 pin to match up with the normal 10 pin just in case someone gets a case with that single plug.

plucky timber
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

viral horizon
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oh hey btw

plucky timber
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Like

viral horizon
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now that i got it on

plucky timber
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The usb header is one thing

viral horizon
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how do i get windows to boot onto bios?

plucky timber
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The hd audio is one thing

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Like come on

potent portal
plucky timber
viral horizon
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can i plug it into any usb port or

plucky timber
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Yep

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Any

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Would recommend rear ports to be safe

potent portal
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Yep any port will do. Preferably rear yes but front should be fine unless there's an issue with it.

viral horizon
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i already tried it but it wont let me boot

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its an asrock bios

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maybe im not using it right

plucky timber
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Which boot device did you select?

potent portal
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Press F11 when the Asrock logo comes up and it'll bring up a boot selection menu

viral horizon
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ok

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brb

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ok it works

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i thank you guys so much

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this was such a fun journey

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heres my buildb tw

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gpu isnt here yet but

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it works!

potent portal
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That first build is always the most fun imo. I enjoy a good challenge and figuring out problems.

viral horizon
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yea

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anyways im gonna go

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see ya

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bye!

potent portal
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Enjoy!

little osprey
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Any idea what’s wrong?

stoic island
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Prob tpm is off

little osprey
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BIOS setting?

stoic island
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There's a way to bypass it too iirc

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Ye

little osprey
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TPM

stoic island
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Trusted platform module

little osprey
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@honest knot, also the board you found for me has working front IO despite what the listing said

stoic island
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Windows 11 decided to mandate the fancy security thing

little osprey
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So can I not enable it or something?

little osprey
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IKR

stoic island
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You should be able to enable it

little osprey
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Alright, I'll go look for it RQ

honest knot
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Or maybe they inserted the case cables in the wrong place?

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Eh it doesn't matter at least it works

little osprey
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Yeah for $50 it ain't bad

honest knot
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little osprey
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@stoic island

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?

quaint burrow
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Hi everyone, first time posting in here and looking for some help. Bought a new comp and I've built a couple PCs in my life but I have no idea why this computer won't even turn on. Yes, I've checked if the power switch was on lol

stoic island
little osprey
stoic island
little osprey
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So I'm confused

quaint burrow
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Nothing on the board the only light I get is from the Internet cable in the back

stoic island
little osprey
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Oh I saw that one sec

stoic island
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And switch to CPU fTPM

quaint burrow
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I just disassembled it all and put it all back in and double checked all my connections

stoic island
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And enable secure boot

little osprey
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Alright

potent portal
little osprey
stoic island
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Go to security and enable secure boot

potent portal
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If secure boot is already enabled, set it to custom, then set it back to standard, accepting the factory defaults

quaint burrow
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Cooler I took off but it was a cooler master ml360L V2 argb

potent portal
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You'll probably need a bios update, but that wouldn't cause it to not turn on

little osprey
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Won’t let me enable it

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“User Mode”?

potent portal
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Try install default keys

little osprey
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?

quaint burrow
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If it would turn on I could go into the Asus bios to update that. I'm not even sure this thing has any LEDs I didn't see any on the actual board

potent portal
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There's usually some near the 24 pin that are used for diagnostics

potent portal
quaint burrow
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Not yet but I can try that

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Just tried and nothing hmmm is my PSU dead then? Hmm

little osprey
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It has come to my attention that my BIOS is over a year old

mossy venture
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mine is almost a year old, it's not much of an issue

little osprey
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BIOS is refusing to update

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Hmmmmmmm

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NVM I got it

quaint burrow
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Ok guys I fiddled with all the power cables and finally got it turned on sooo thanks!

quaint burrow
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Now I have no display great more troubleshooting time 😞

little osprey
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Yeah now it’s just refusing to boot from the USB with secure boot on

potent portal
quaint burrow
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Lol it is

potent portal
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Always have to start with the basics, I know it gets annoying sometimes lol

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Monitor on the right input?

quaint burrow
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It's from old comp it better be I haven't changed anything

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Resocketed ram and vid card still nothing also

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Hmmm do I have to disable on board vid card with a pin still or is that an old school problem?

potent portal
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Mostly old school thing but you can try using the integrated GPU if you have one

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At least temporarily

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Any lights on near the 24 pin cable?

quaint burrow
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I mean RGB is real so yes but not the ones you're thinking

potent portal
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Ok so it did probably post properly and the issue is somewhere between the GPU and the monitor

quaint burrow
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Well I stuck an HDMI and display port with two different monitors and still getting nothing on either screen

potent portal
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Did you restart after changing cables

quaint burrow
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Yes

viral horizon
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so good news
the computer works
im actually using it to write this rn
but anyways its doing just fine]
what are some normal temps btw for the cpu
i usually get around 40 c when im using it for normal activites
and 70 for gaming

analog hearth
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that sounds normal

lunar abyss
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Aye

manic cloak
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Idk if this is “real” or not

obsidian wigeon
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don't use that calculator thing

manic cloak
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Ah

potent portal
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Every system has a bottleneck, they're fundamentally misusing the term

obsidian wigeon
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^

plucky timber
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"calculator"

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I'd love too see their methodology

cyan ravine
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bottleneck is such a superfluous topic

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no point trying to use a calculator because it all comes off assumptions

plucky timber
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It's a dumb metric for measuring performance

viral horizon
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can frame rate be affected by the monitor?

cyan ravine
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If there's any sync involved yes

viral horizon
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wdym by sync

cyan ravine
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Gsync, vsync, freesync

viral horizon
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like if the monitor is connected to a pc via cable

cyan ravine
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There are technologies which are commonly used to sync the gpu with the monitor for frame output

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Improves frame pacing

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And governs it

viral horizon
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im using an igpu for the time being

cyan ravine
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Lol

viral horizon
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yeah

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i dont have my gpu yet

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but im thinking of getting a radeon 6700xt

cyan ravine
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So why do you want to know this question

viral horizon
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idk

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i just thought my computer would run faster than it would

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i mean it works alot better

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i mean it has 32 gb of ram

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ryzen 5 7600

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1 tb of storage

cyan ravine
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I see

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What monitor do you have

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And power supply (full complete name pls)

jagged ember
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Oh he's sent a link before

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But yes send it again sir

mossy venture
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it's abn 550

teal dome
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@mossy venture

mossy venture
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W

teal dome
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You gotta find me a Bluetooth and WiFi card on TikTok if possible

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Imma use the coupon and buy

mossy venture
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gimme a few and i gotchu

teal dome
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Idk if this is good

teal dome
mossy venture
teal dome
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But the only problem is how I connect it

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My pcie for that card is below my gpu

mossy venture
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Like, behind it?

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Or below it

teal dome
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How do I connect those antennas

teal dome
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Like idk but it covers t

mossy venture
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The antennae are outside the case

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Can you send a pic?

teal dome
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Like right behind it

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I have a gen 3

mossy venture
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as in you cannot see the pcie slot looking face on at the pc?

teal dome
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My motherboard doesn’t have it I can’t connect it

mossy venture
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send one face on

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there should be a pcie 1x slot a decent bit lower than the gpu

teal dome
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Ok

mossy venture
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but your solution might be an m.2 wifi card with a USB bluetooth connector

teal dome
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Loading

mossy venture
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well thats annoying

teal dome
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I just put it there?

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Right below the gpu lol

mossy venture
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not sure it'd fit, I'd ask someone else

teal dome
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And my m.2 is behind the gpu I think

mossy venture
#

that'd be fine, would just have to take ouyt the gpu to put it in

teal dome
#

My mobo doesn’t have things to connect the antenna with

mossy venture
#

that small one would normally be what you put a pcie wifi card in

teal dome
#

Probably

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How could I get the card to fit in tho

mossy venture
#

i have no idea

#

it would probabl be simpler to just use an m.2 wifi card

teal dome
#

Probably

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There is no one with m.2 on TikTok shop

mossy venture
#

mm

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one sec

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It isn't tiktok but this is m.2, if you end up having to buy one not on tiktok https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Wi-Fi-Gig-Desktop-AX200-NGWG-NV/dp/B085M7VPDP/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?

teal dome
#

Yeah might get the m.2 one

#

How about Bluetooth?

#

Do I just buy one of those usbs?

mossy venture
#

that you could find a usb one on tiktok

#

yea

teal dome
#

Alright

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@mossy venture I got another one

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15$ of no min spend

mossy venture
#

Yeah thats good

teal dome
#

Alright

little osprey
#

Alright dumb question

#

I daisy chained the RGB cable for the Frozen Notte and two Thermalright fans

#

For some reason the fans and pump are auto defaulting to green and I dunno if it was a software issue or hardware issue because neither were showing up on SignalRGB

#

I tried downloading the ASRock’s RGB software for the board but it wouldn’t open, I’ll try again tonight but dunno what else to do

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Rig ain’t for me so I just wanna put on RGB software that’s easy to use

cursive wharf
#

I assume ARGB? If so, did you set the LED count to amt of LEDs that can be addressed (remember to think about what is hooked up in series and what is hooked up in parallel).

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@little osprey

little osprey
#

All of which are daisy chained onto a single header

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Wait

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One second need to check the manual and see if the header was addressable or not

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Yeah I should have the three pin daisy chain plugged into 24

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SignalRGB was weird, I might try to use ASRock's RGB software again or use OpenRGB just to confirm if the board is reading the header or not

lunar abyss
#

Which one the best @ or dm me I’m trying to see which one to buy

mossy venture
#

If not, first one is the best

lunar abyss
#

Na I rather not

lunar abyss
#

Think that was the first one

potent portal
#

Really? I'd have gone with the 5600x/6600 one

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Waaaaay better than a 1660

#

The 6600 is more comparable to a 1080 even, 2 tiers up

pseudo pollen
#

I think he meant the second one

minor cypress
#

Question for anyone. I currently have only 5 fans to install. I will get more later. What is the best configuration for me to place my 5 fans?

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The rear of the case is the top if you are looking at the picture. Sorry I should have taken it the correct way so it doesn’t throw you off

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@potent portal

potent portal
pseudo pollen
#

It would probably be side intake but close enough

potent portal
#

Same diff

minor cypress
#

3 front intake is to the right of my mother board yeah?

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@potent portal

potent portal
#

Yes

minor cypress
#

Awesome thank you 😊

potent portal
#

np

minor cypress
#

Anyone free for FaceTime? Idk where some wires go 😅 or video chat if that works on this app

minor cypress
#

Disregard

minor cypress
#

So I just realized my Motherboard does not have a USB 3.0 and a USB 3.1 Gen 2 connection. Will that be a big problem?

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My case is the Lian Li O11 Mini and those are the 2 front panel system I/O ports

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Does that mean I bought the wrong MB for my case? Cause if so that sucks cause PC Part Picker said they were compatible

strong raft
#

usb 3.1/3.2 or w/e are these bigger ones, normal/older usb2.0/3.0 are these smaller ones. USB32 w/e = usb 3.2, which is what you use if the case cable matches. Certain things on mobos are slightly-standardized like this.

minor cypress
#

@strong raft so per my manual for my case. I have a usb 3.0 wire and a usb 3.1 gen 2 wire.

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Where would each go? 🤔

strong raft
minor cypress
strong raft
#

smaller 1 in last pic is usb C, seems to have multiple names on some mobos. haha

minor cypress
#

@strong raft ok 1 more question

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HD Audio wire

I’m 99% sure it plugs in here

pseudo pollen
#

yeah

minor cypress
#

The difficulty I’m running into, is it should just slide into place. I also checked that I have the pins lined up so I don’t break anything. But I’m having a hard time putting it on

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Is that because the wire is brand new??

pseudo pollen
#

Just put a little force into it

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and don't go at an angle

minor cypress
#

Ok, I didn’t want to put too much force cause I didn’t want to break anything 😅.

I’ll try it now and let you know how it goes @pseudo pollen

pseudo pollen
#

Sounds good

strong raft
#

props on 1 of the best ssds. If there already something under the top slot ( ssd sized silver/white heatsink)? if not, we just prefer that a single ssd goes there.

minor cypress
#

Hmm I’m putting pretty good force on it, more than I feel I need to @pseudo pollen

pseudo pollen
#

make sure that the pins line up, and just push, it will take a bit more force then you think it would

minor cypress
#

I have the word “HD AUDIO” face up towards the MB to match the pins fyi

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Copy I’ll try again

minor cypress
cyan ravine
#

It kinda, needs one

minor cypress
#

Understood

cyan ravine
#

Like absolutely needs one

strong raft
#

eh not totally if anything like the how a plat P41 normally is, but that's going by TPU who basically couldn't make it thermal throttle even w/ a 600+ GB write on a 2TB model. (although I did heatsink mine gotta admit)

minor cypress
#

Bruh this dam Hd Audio wire is a pain. I feel like I have to really shove it in

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It slides 1/4 of the way so I know for sure it’s matched correctly. But when I try to put it in the rest of the way it’s being difficult

cyan ravine
#

It's on the same power tier as a 980 pro

#

It absolutely needs one

pseudo pollen
minor cypress
#

Yeah I’m trying rn lol

cyan ravine
#

@minor cypress ek nvme heatsinks can be found relatively cheap, very effective and low profile. Try anywhere not their main website

#

Very very good sinks, worth keeping

minor cypress
#

@pseudo pollen I gave up and just put it on as much as I could sigh

pseudo pollen
#

it shouldn't be doing that

#

eh, it is what it is, it might still work though

minor cypress
#

If anything I’ll take it to my local computer store to find out why

potent portal
#

Do you even need the front audio ports though

minor cypress
#

@potent portal idk, I was just plugging it in just because 😅

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I was just following my manual

pseudo pollen
#

no video?

potent portal
#

If you don't think you'll need it then you can leave it loose

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/unplugged

minor cypress
#

So I’m just gonna leave it for now

cyan ravine
#

I think it's better to leave it loose if it won't fit to avoid any psu overcurrent trips

minor cypress
#

I spent an hour trying to do it 🤦🏽‍♂️ 😂

pseudo pollen
#

It's honestly one of the best connectors for that to happen

potent portal
#

One of the most optional ones yes

cyan ravine
#

True, but left alone could be the worst

#

Audio drivers are terrible

#

No need to add more fuel to that fire

potent portal
#

Onboard audio really is garbage 99/100 times

cyan ravine
#

Ye but it's still usable

potent portal
#

It'll work after tweaking for 6 hours and then randomly stop working for no reason

cyan ravine
#

💀

#

Ryzen is so much worse too

#

If it breaks it's almost unfixable

#

To the point where spamming the reinstall is the lottery luck solution

potent portal
#

Realtek StabbyFroge

cyan ravine
#

Indeed

#

I've had to reinstall windows a few times thanks to realtek

potent portal
#

I'd take an old sound blaster card over onboard

cyan ravine
#

Guess what's in my two new rigs?

#

Well I have a dac if I want proper audio

#

It's useful if I need to just plug my headphones in rq

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Which happens a lot if I need a video conference

potent portal
#

That's why I'm so glad my headset just uses a generic USB DAC

#

If the headset dies I can still use the dac

white shadow
#

Hello, I'm new to this server. I've been playing Cities Skylines for a couple of years. I upgraded my RAM on my basic desktop PC (Dell Inspiron 3670) a few months ago and this has worked out quite well (32GB). With the new CS2, it seems my graphics card just can't cut it. I tried playing CS2 for the first time today and each time I selected a menu item to build out any asset, the entire map turns a bright yellow and I can't see what I'm doing at all. My research implies my low level graphics card is the culprit. I want to be sure I don't purchase a graphics card that won't fit or function in my existing PC. PCs have evolved a lot since I was building desktops in high school so I honestly don't know what specs to be looking for to ensure an appropriate fit and function. I'd prefer to keep the purchase under $100 but would be willing to go up to $200 if necessary. Input greatly appreciated. Thank you 🙂

cyan ravine
#

True, there's also the apple usbc dac

#

Subverts the onboard altogether

#

Idk the gene one seems alright

#

My ux was apparently decent too by freq response

#

Those aren't cheap boards tho

#

It's nothing compared to a separate dac either

potent portal
#

I have the hyperx cloud 2 so it's pretty independent, I can use the headset on my PS4 by plugging into the controller too

#

I'm happy with it and that's what matters right?

cyan ravine
#

When the best in class graphics card can barely do 30 fps in it's home turf, it's a heavy as hell game

#

Just prefacing this because you might find 100$ or 200$ mightn't be enough

potent portal
#

Could get a used 6600 XT for $165

white shadow
cyan ravine
#

I would say so yeah

potent portal
#

What do you have now is the question

white shadow
cyan ravine
#

Cpu, gpu, ram, psu

potent portal
#

1650 super, yeah that'll be showing it's age all right

cyan ravine
#

Indood

white shadow
#

Looks like the link with specs gives upgrade options further down the page.

cyan ravine
#

Do you have an i3 i5 i7 or i9

potent portal
#

Looks like that stock power supply doesn't have any PCIe connectors

cyan ravine
#

Does it fit a standard PSU?

obsidian wigeon
#

it does

#

it's an atx case

#

but so tiny it can only fit the mobo itself

#

gpu can't be too long

cyan ravine
#

I hope so cos dell uses those sausage ones

potent portal
#

That does not look like ATX to me

obsidian wigeon
#

hm

#

alright

#

honestly for such a game

cyan ravine
#

Hoo boy

obsidian wigeon
#

whole new rig is a better way

cyan ravine
#

If it's not they need a whole new rig

#

Custom mobo, custom psu

#

Custom case

potent portal
#

Definitely not ATX

cyan ravine
#

Or some brute force and carelessness

obsidian wigeon
#

ah welp

#

the weird proprietary dell bs as usual

cyan ravine
#

Lmfao

#

Ripw

potent portal
#

External power for GPU? Adapters? lol

cyan ravine
#

And that case doesn't look wide enough for a standard psu either

white shadow
cyan ravine
white shadow
#

Yeah I know this isn't ideal but I can't invest in a whole new computer. When I purchased this desktop in 2020, it was just for working from home

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I hoped that some wise upgrading would make it possible for me to play

cyan ravine
#

Peach, your pc has a common dell problem

white shadow
#

It's the only game I'm currently playing

cyan ravine
#

Dell does cheap, out of style, or custom spec

#

To make things as affordable as possible for them

white shadow
#

Yeah, I definitely didn't have gaming in mind when I purchased.

cyan ravine
#

So what you get is a pc that works

white shadow
#

I would have chosen differently otherwise

#

haha, yeah

cyan ravine
#

But if you want to change anything it's dead on it's feet

#

If we recommend you a gpu the best we could do is a higher power LP card

#

Which isn't that strong

#

Rather all for a couple options iirc (expensive those ones) it's worse than what you have

#

Cos the PSU isn't up to scratch

#

If you wanted to run the psu externally tho, and be a little jank, that works

potent portal
#

A 3050 would meet the game spec and there's models without supplemental PCIe power

cyan ravine
#

Does it? At what reso tho lol

potent portal
#

You'd be looking at 1080p low/medium probably

cyan ravine
#

The lp 4060 would probably be about as high as I think possible

potent portal
#

Minimum is a 970

obsidian wigeon
#

i pray 4050 is 75w for desktop

#

but looking at laptops..

#

4050 is probs not 75w card

#

lol

potent portal
#

I hate that used 3050s are more expensive than used 6600 XTs

obsidian wigeon
#

nvidia fee™

#

on other news..

#

they're all equipped with 610m PepeRealizes

#

rip to mini pcs

cyan ravine
#

Um

#

So 2080 super gets 24 fps 1080p

obsidian wigeon
#

oof

cyan ravine
#

With a 13900k

obsidian wigeon
#

that's crazy

white shadow
#

Thanks for trying to help. I'm just going to have to table this for now

cyan ravine
#

I think your best bet peach

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

And this is a weird recommendation from me

#

4060 LP

#

It's low power, so it'll slot right in

#

But it's not cheap

#

It'd run your game tho

#

Well enough imo

#

If a 2080S struggles to hit 24fps, it's a big hill to climb LOL

#

Those cards go second hand near 200

#

You could grab one of those? And add a separate psu for $52

#

Apevia prestige 600w

#

But if you want a clean upgrade it eould be the pricey 4060 LP

#

Just because dell does what it does

#

They don't make life easy lol

teal dome
potent portal
#

Better than what he has

cyan ravine
#

Well it's a cheap decent unit

potent portal
#

Which is basically nothing

teal dome
#

Yeah

cyan ravine
#

Yeah peach has none

#

It's gonna come with caveats anyway

#

The days of cheap psu's are long behind us

#

Blame the ukraine conflict for that

teal dome
#

Caveats? What are those

cyan ravine
#

Drawbacks

teal dome
cyan ravine
#

Hey I'm not taking a side saying that lol

teal dome
#

Wish cheap semi mod or modular psus still exists

cyan ravine
#

But psus did get more expensive due to sanctions aligning with the event

obsidian wigeon
#

^

potent portal
#

The war disrupted a lot, partially due to the major sanctions against russia and allied nations

cyan ravine
#

Neon supply suffering

white shadow
#

Well all in all, I appreciate everyone taking the time to try to help me out. Seems I'm correct, the g card is the problem but upgrade options seem moot because of the usual Dell issues. I think I'll need to make a gaming PC a reward for meeting my big end of year goal. I can play CS1 in the meantime.

cyan ravine
#

Noble gases you need for large caps

white shadow
#

yep

cyan ravine
#

Cities skyline 1

white shadow
#

Not an issue with CS1.

cyan ravine
#

Context

teal dome
#

Ohhh

white shadow
#

yes Cities SKylines

cyan ravine
#

It's not cs1 like csgo

teal dome
#

I thought it was counter strike

cyan ravine
#

Yeah ikr lol

white shadow
#

nope

potent portal
#

Since the minimum GPU is a GTX 970 and that'll struggle a lot with medium population, the 1650 is below even that

white shadow
#

Sorry to disappoint, haven't played any FPS games since college and I never enjoyed them or was ever any good

teal dome
cyan ravine
#

Lol

#

We're chill

#

Hey btw

white shadow
#

I loved Civ 3 for ages, was my fave game for a long time. So in 2021 when I was looking for a new game to try, I found Cities and just couldn't stop watching YT videos of others playing.

cyan ravine
#

@white shadow come back here when you're ready to build a new pc

#

Aim for a budget of about

white shadow
#

Thanks. I will

cyan ravine
#

...

#

700? Before tax

#

That would get you a good tower

teal dome
#

Yeah

potent portal
#

$700 USD would make an awesome starter PC

teal dome
#

Even around 500 with deals

#

My pc was a steal

cyan ravine
#

500 with tiktok

#

Honestly worth it

teal dome
#

Yes sir and it runs 1440p if I wanted to but prob not gonna get

#

Picked up a WiFi card for 8 bucks today

#

From TikTok shop

cyan ravine
#

$325 before tax

#

Oh wait

#

@white shadow nvm it needs a power connector wtf

#

I was mistaken kek

teal dome
#

Honestly build a new pc

#

So much better

pseudo pollen
#

pinging him so much why

teal dome
#

And maybe salvage the parts

white shadow
#

Yeah, seems the consensus

cyan ravine
#

Yeah, I got no easy answer here haha

white shadow
#

Yeah I'll def take my ram and both my drives to my build

#

I'll see what othe parts I can salvage

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

Why make an lp card if you can't run it at 75W

potent portal
#

Molex adapter thisisfinefire

cyan ravine
#

Actually?

white shadow
#

Thanks again all, I gotta go. Have a great day/night 🙂

cyan ravine
vague oracle
cyan ravine
#

Bruh a 4080 LP would be like 10 fans long

#

Freaking lightsaber with all that rgb

#

Only missing a grip to swing with kek

vague oracle
#

My wallet is itching to buy something, idk what I should

#

So many good options to buy

cyan ravine
#

4080 lp

vague oracle
#

I’ll make one

#

Is there a decent monitor that’s smaller than the FV43U but bigger than the M32U?

weary galleon
#

^for anyone like me who doesn't know how large those are, in between 32" and 43"

weary galleon
#

According to pcpp there are 14 monitors in that range, the cheapest is $615

cyan ravine
#

Anything in the middle just, doesn't really get recommended if it's not an ultra wide

little osprey
#

Alright well I’ve nailed down why the ARGB on the AIO and fans isn’t being picked up by software

#

After reading a few posts and looking at my own box the only mention of ARGB software seems to be Aura Sync which I presume is referring to Asus’s thing

#

While the fans may support different software, I have them daisy chained onto the AIO ARGB cable

#

So I’ll get the wifi cable hooked up today and pray to God that the Aura Sync thing works

cyan ravine
#

why do you need specifically wifi for aura sync?

#

just use armoury crate to preset it

#

same thing

#

or open rgb

#

if it's not being picked up by the motherboard it may not even be plugged in properly

#

asus software just auto detects all strips in the stream, I know cos I do it

little osprey
#

No Ethernet

cyan ravine
#

have you been using it without any internet

little osprey
#

Using what?

cyan ravine
#

the pc

little osprey
#

Yes

lyric thistle
#

Why not grab your own PC for internet

cyan ravine
#

you know you can usb tether your phone for internet right

little osprey
#

I can?

cyan ravine
#

mhm, it's a pretty normal feature nowadays

little osprey
#

I’ve done it before

#

I just thought I needed wifi or Bluetooth

cyan ravine
#

that's hotspot

#

not quite the same

#

but same outcome

little osprey
#

Well yeah I ran a cable

cyan ravine
#

if you run it over wifi or bluetooth it's hotspot

#

over cable it's tether lol

little osprey
#

Alright I’ll try when I get home

cyan ravine
little osprey
#

Thanks

lyric thistle
little osprey
#

Just hook up your charger to your computer and go to your phone settings and enable USB tethering

cyan ravine
#

pretty much

#

tho usb cable not charger

lyric thistle
#

Yeah plug in your iPad block

cyan ravine
#

big wall plug into pc

#

it's easy enough to do I forget how to do it every time

lyric thistle
#

The two hot pins jammed into two USB C ports

#

I literally have to spend like 10-30 minutes figuring it out each time because I try via Bluetooth and wifi direct first

cyan ravine
#

I even do dual connections

lyric thistle
#

My network module doesn't have functioning Bluetooth for whatever reason so obviously that doesn't work

cyan ravine
#

like band steering or combine my phone tether and cable net

#

my net, albeit slow and high ping to the states

#

it can be quite good if I brute force the hell out of it

signal olive
#

Hi. Can anyone help me with finding some parts to build a computer that can run vrchat? Im in California.

potent portal
#

What's your budget for the computer?

#

And do you have any parts already?

gentle pollen
#

Any good ways to measure how much power my computer draws in a day on average?

potent portal
#

Smart UPS

gentle pollen
#

is that a app?

potent portal
#

No it's hardware

gentle pollen
#

Oh. Any software I can use?

#

Doesn't need to be exact, just need a rough estimation.

potent portal
#

You could log your stats with hwinfo

gentle pollen
#

Oh, okay.

#

How do I log the stats, or is that the same as just running HWinfo in the background.

potent portal
#

There's a button with a sheet of paper with a green plus over it, the tooltip shows "logging start"

gentle pollen
#

Found it.

#

So just keep it running till I close the computer?

potent portal
#

Yep

gentle pollen
#

Will it update to the same log when I start it again or do I need to make a new file?

potent portal
#

You'll be able to read the data in any app that can open .csv files.
You'll need to start the logging and it'll ask where to put the log every time you want to use it. You can set a hotkey in settings and tell it to start on boot at least.

gentle pollen
#

Gotcha.

#

Trying to figure out what my 5700G's power draw will be when I reuse it for a server soon.

signal olive
#

Processor Intel® i5-4590 / AMD FX 8350 equivalent or greater Memory 4 GB RAM Graphics NVIDIA GeForce® GTX 970 / AMD Radeon™ R9 290 equivalent or greater DirectX Version 11 Storage 21.5GB (~1.5GB for application, remaining for content cache)
Vertex shader 5.1
Pixel shader 5.1
Is what it told me i needee to run vrchat but i dont which pieces of hardware are consideree more powerful and bettee than what they suggested

#

Like id like to get 8 to 12 ram and 2 tb storage memory

potent portal
signal olive
#

Wow did you put the list together for me? If thats the case yeah ill probably save up to the get higher end parts then. Would the Seagate brand barracuda work with this setup?

potent portal
#

You could add any HDD like that to this with no issues for extra storage

#

There's not a whole lot of reason to get them these days with SSDs being so cheap though

#

If you had it already then you can pop it in

signal olive
#

Yeah thats why i asked. I got some 2 tbs seagates in my storage brand new. Wanted to see ifol i could use em. Sweet. Thanks for the help! Greatly appreciate it!

#

Is there a specific motherboard i need for this?

potent portal
#

Any B660 or B760 should do. Or if you wanted the option to overclock a K CPU later you can get a Z690 or Z790.

#

I'd recommend a board with DDR5 memory and not DDR4

#

You could also go AMD instead for a little bit more performance for a little more money

signal olive
#

Noted. Again thanks👍

minor cypress
#

@potent portal dang I thought 3 120mm Lian li fans would fit on the rear as Intake

#

In the Lian li mini snow case

#

Would it be ok if I put those 3 on the bottom of case as intake and then my last 2 as 1 rear exhaust and 1 top exhaust?

manic cloak
#

and bottom should be exhausr

#

if i'm correct

minor cypress
#

@manic cloak I have 5 fans total

manic cloak
#

oh

minor cypress
#

I did 3 bottom as intake
1 top exhaust
1 rear exhaust

manic cloak
#

send a pic

#

cause tbh

#

i think that's wrong

minor cypress
manic cloak
#

unless you have the whole pc upside down

#

I doubt that's gonna work

minor cypress
#

The way the pic is that’s is right side up

manic cloak
#

ikik

minor cypress
#

If anything I’ll change it later

manic cloak
#

you should be fine with 1 exhaust rear, 2 or 3 top intakes

#

5th fan you can throw anywhere

#

bottom should usually be exhaust though

#

cause there's not gonna be as much air flow compared to top from the bottom

#

I guess you could say air follows gravity? kekw

strong raft
#

Some of the wackest stuff I've heard.

obsidian wigeon
#

uh no

#

you should actually keep the bottom fans as intake for this case

#

or the gpu will be choked from air

#

back exhaust

#

side intake

#

no need for top fans

teal dome
#

Is there a way when you press a key it turns on mic but when you press again it like turn off mic

#

Push to talk sucks and I don’t wanna hold it when I’m talking

obsidian wigeon
#

physical mic switch kekw

#

bind a key to turn on and off mic i guess

teal dome
#

How do?

obsidian wigeon
#

not sure how

teal dome
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My headset has mute button but idk how to work it

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It doesn’t work

obsidian wigeon
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or use voice activity

teal dome
obsidian wigeon
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it turns on and off your mic based on your speech

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sensitivity is adjustable

teal dome
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Hmm alright I’ll try

obsidian wigeon
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not speech, but rather loudness of sounds

teal dome
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Thanks fox

obsidian wigeon
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too sensitive it picks up everything

teal dome
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I have a bunch of background noise so yeah

obsidian wigeon
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too low and you have to raise your voice

teal dome
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Might not be able to do that

teal dome
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Gotta get it right

little osprey
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Any idea as to why Windows is acting up when I run anything in the USB ports?

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Keeps saying power surge or something and the USB port is drawing more than the PSU can handle

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It happens with a USB drive and wireless mouse/keyboard

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I’ve tried different ports too and it still shows up until I click on the notification and click close even though it claims it won’t work until I restart the PC

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But the mouse/keyboard and USB drive work just fine despite this?

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Could it be the lack of an IO plate?

lyric thistle
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:(

little osprey
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It’s on the newest version

mossy venture
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It sounds like it'd be related to ryzens usb drop out issues, or the mobo is faulty

little osprey
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Everything works fine after I close the notification but I’m just confused why it’s showing up in the first place

mossy venture
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Does it happen with the cases usb ports too?

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Or just the motherboards

little osprey
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Yeah

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Rear and front

mossy venture
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Odd

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Made sure usb front panel connector or whatever it's called is secure?

little osprey
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Listing for the motherboard said the USB 3.2 header didn’t work but it works for me

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I’ll check but I’m still confused

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Everything else works fine, she’s gonna pick it up this evening

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Just trying to get everything quirked out before then

cursive wharf
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If AMD mobo have you tested CPU, chipset, and "indirect" chipset controllers (indirect being non-internal chipset controllers connected to chipset)?

frigid night
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@south cliff is that bottom fan set to exhaust??

storm arrow
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Which 4090 gpu should I go with

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Gigabyte aorus a good one?