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occt power is nice for stressing cpu and gpu simultaneously
can be good for testing your case airflow lol
Downloading now

I literally downloaded p95 to run with occt the other day cos I forgot about the power test

I'm getting old ig
alright grandpa let’s get you to bed
Think I will sleep ye
What should I run
Click on power
right I forgot it’s actually nighttime for you lmao
Then press start
I just got out of a lecture that had no right to be as heavy as it was at 8am
How long do I let it run
until you’re satisfied lol
you really don’t need to run thermal testing on your pc unless you’re suspecting an actual problem
so if you’re just doing this for your own satisfaction then only you can answer your own question
Looks perfectly fine to me. GPU is a tad warm but completely within spec.
Heard thank you
It's also registering the AMD Radeon graphics and then the 4070ti graphics separately
Is that normal. I have never used this program
Normal
Ok
Your CPU also includes a basic integrated GPU
Just like to check everything
what model 4070ti is that?
MSI Gaming trio
Also just out of curiosity, what cooler for the cpu? Stock?
that temperature made me think it was a blower model
or maybe your case is restrictive? idk
Might need custom fan curve
It's probably a "silent" fan curve by default
under 2 minutes of load
I hope so lol
that cooler looks pretty beefy, they would have had to screw up the design enormously to get temps like that at higher fan speeds
Question for anyone that might have an answer. In order for me to do a BIOS flashback on my motherboard, do I have to have another computer to download the file to a usb so I can BIOS flashback the new motherboard???
FYI, I never built a gaming computer before and I’m watching a YouTube video from “PC Builder” that is helping me along with my new gaming computer
I guess another good question is, does every motherboard have to be flashed if I bought it new right out of the box?
The motherboard I bought is brand new called “ASRock B650 Pro RS WI-FI”
It's pretty rare that a current AMD motherboard like that requires an update to run.
You could set up the flashback using an android phone with a USB adapter if you didn't have any other computer.
Ahh ok. Would I be fine then if I continue to build my computer than? I haven’t put anything together yet
Currently have all my computer parts laid out on a table. I was waiting for a reply before I start to put things together ☺️
Yes you're fine to continue
Awesome thank you @potent portal
Flashback doesn't require having other things on the board besides power but it won't hurt if they are on, in case you did need to flash
Understood ☺️
Alright here I go!
Good luck, feel free to ask if you have other questions
recommendations for gpu thermal pads?
I need a little bit of both 1mm and 0.5mm thickness
I went with these personally, but anything right around that W/mK rating
https://a.co/d/bQhieRs
Update your Intel chipset drivers
This computer starts up and the as soon as you log in this pops up and you can't use your mouse or keyboard
Start it in safe mode and update it
If windows fails to start 3 times, it'll go to the advanced menu where you can select safe mode
So hit the reset button when it tries to start 3 times until the menu comes
Holding the power button to force shut down works
Alternative options exist if you have a windows install USB ready
Startup settings
Safe mode
https://www.amazon.com/OwlTree-100x100mm-Efficient-Conductivity-Resistant/dp/B096ZNHY8F so are these a big no no?
The thermal pads fill the air gap between the heat-generating device and the heat sink or metal base. With the characteristics of softness and elasticity, the thermal pads can cover very incomplete surfaces. Heat can be conducted from the internal device to the metal shell or the heat sink plate ...
the w/mk is like half
That's enough for GDDR6 but not GDDR6X
After it reboots pick safe mode with networking and you should be able to download the update
GDDR5 only uses about 2.5W so 6 W/mK should be sufficient.
However the one I linked is only a little bit more cost and far better. Your choice.
I need both 1mm and 0.5mm tho
So if i do need a g6x pad ill go with what you sent but for now i think the owltree one has better value
Thx for the input
There's both in the link I sent. It's not in order, it has 1mm, 1.5mm, then 0.5mm.
Fair enough. Happy to help.
Ah must have missed that
Got it in safe mode
Is that Ryzen 9 in your name your current processor?
That my pc. This is a PC someone dropped off that's a friend lol
Gotcha. What CPU?
3700x I believe
Ok so still Ryzen
Nope a 5600 not 5700
Alright so you'll need to update this chipset driver (it's the same for all AM4 systems) https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/b550
The winring0x64 driver is usually associated with RGB programs. Which do they have installed? It'll need to be updated too.
Signal I think
Server address could not be found
Not registering internet I don't think
@potent portal I have a feeling my psu cables are not compatible with my M/B unless I’m blind
What cord exactly?
I’ll take a pic so it’s easier to see. This is my first time building a gaming computer, so I’m not good at explaining things.Lol
All good. That how you learn and that's why we are all here.
@restive halo
So I took a picture of my motherboard I’m pretty sure that’s the area of where the cable plugs into and then I also took a picture of the PSU where the motherboard should plug into
And when I’m looking at my cables, it doesn’t look like I have the one I need
On the motherboard that looks like your cpu port
Is there a cord labled on the plug cpu
The 24 pin motherboard one goes on the right side of the board
Ahhhhh
The CPU 8 pin will be the one that breaks into 4+4 cables
Falcie is correct of what I was asking about
Sorry I didn’t know how to phrase my question right
That first picture I assumed is where I connect the psu to MB
Ok well the port you took a picture of on the psu is the 24 pin but the pic on the motherboard is 8 which is your cpu
All good.
I’m going on three hours and I have yet to put my motherboard in my case lol
It should be in your case if your wiring the psu
I’m watching a YouTube video from PC builder and pausing and rewinding
Unless your testing
@potent portal I don't think mine is registering the internet for some reason in safe mode
Here is the area where I plug my psu I believe what falcie was talking about which is 24 pin
Yes
So the other end of connection to my PSU Hass to be a 10 pin or 18 pin?
If you're on wifi it might not load the driver. Even though it should if you selected safe mode with networking.
Both, it'll split off
Ahh ok I’m looking at my wires that came with my PSU
Ethernet
And you picked safe mode with networking?
You can always disable the RGB app in safe mode so it doesn't trigger the driver warning, and download in regular mode
I thought I did but it's acting as if I did not lol
What does EPS stand for? In terms of cables
Entry-Level Power Supply Specification
It's one of those acronyms that's lost it's meaning and the meaning never mattered to begin with lol
eps just means it's for cpu basically
don't think too hard
don't plug it into your gpu
or you'll melt the connectors
Normally you can't do that anyway because of the keying
right
But I've seen some lazy power supply designs where you could...
fair enough
Still a scary experience, and some power supplies don't even have short circuit protection
(We'll never, ever recommend one that doesn't have that)
@potent portal
Ok so as a stopgap disable (or uninstall) anything having to do with RGB
That could be EVGA software, openrgb, motherboard software, lots of things can access it
iCue is another
It might not be obvious
For example EVGA Precision X1 accesses that driver
So does Logitech software
If it's unclear just disable all startup programs
Dragon Center
That'll do it
Delet it
He uses it for his rgb
You can control the RGB using openrgb, it's lighter impact on the system and has way more options. Plus it doesn't spy on you.
Ok I'll put it on there for him
Oh and when you uninstall dragon center I recommend using revo uninstaller to do it
MSI loves to leave behind little pieces of itself without telling you
Which of course interferes with other software
@potent portal OK I’m ready to put my motherboard in my case. Do I need to remove these standoffs?
I’m using MicroATX MB
Ok.
I also think I need to rearrange the middle 2 because they don’t line up with the MB That’s the way it was. I haven’t touched anything yet.
Oh actually, never mind
Yeah it looks that way. You'll want them on the M peg holes
Ahh ok
It looks like that case also allows you to slide the board down a little to make more room at the top for liquid cooling, if you're doing that
No liquid cooling for now. Just a normal fan cooler.
Ok, stick with the 7 and 7M holes then
Do I have to use all eight holes on my motherboard? @potent portal
No
Technically speaking you could get away with as few as 2
But more is good to be more secure
Ok 👍🏾
@potent portal Deleted Dragon center
Still crashed and won't let me install
Going back to safe mode. I might have to do a fresh install. 😬
Next thing to try would be disabling all startup programs
If that doesn't help still then yeah you might have to go nuclear
Ugh lol
I know Avast will throw a huge fit if you try to uninstall it and probably make you log in to the account to approve the uninstall so that's probably out
Unless you do have access to said account
Disabled all start ups and installed the drivers
Ah so it let you this time
Good, that means you can narrow down the misbehaving program to something that was in the auto startup menu
Sorry. I did not realize that was a bad word. I apologize
That's what the bot is for. It happens.
So one of his aps was breaking crap.
@potent portal lol found it first try I was right lol Mobi games playstore
Welp sketchy launcher doing sketchy things
I know that driver can be exploited to hide a crypto miner virus
Of course lol
You can use revouninstaller for an easier time doing a full uninstall
It can check for residual files and registry things apps leave behind
Thank you
Thank you all as always
If i am selling my computer and need to get rid of the data on my ssd. How do i do it while keeping windows on it?
Factory reset from settings
Yes that, and if you want the data to be unrecoverable run a secure wipe of your free space after. Since it's a SSD only do one pass or you can ruin the nand. CCleaner is one tool that can do it.
Technically you can just run the SSD TRIM command and get similar results.
can i please get some help
i just put the cpu and my cpu cooler in my computer
the motherboard is put on
the 8 pin cpu connector is on
the 24 pin is on
and the caseport where the fans are connected, led switch, p switch are they all are connected to a sata connector
please it wont turn on
i dont want 1000 bucks to go to waste
pelase
Did you flip the PSU switch
yes
Did you plug the display into the GPU
ive turned it on and off
i dont have a gpu yet
the cpu has igpu
Okay
Probably plugged in front panel io wrong
So just pull that all out, take a screwdriver, confirm the location of the power switch pins
i hope it didnt but i set my motherboard on my bed when working on it
And put your screwdriver between the two power pins
Probably not? Things are pretty static resistant these days but I can't exactly rule it out-
Try shorting the power pins first with a screwdriver or knife
On front panel io on the motherboard
Refer to the manual
And take a pic before you do it just in case
of the rear io on the motherboard
Ask if you do not understand
or just the motherboard in general
So remember the stupid little bundle of cables that fit one or two pins
yeah
yeah
i have the port connector plugged into a sata connector i think
but i resecured everything, i turned on the psu
i press the power and yea
oh
I just need you to short the power sw ones
Commonly the 3rd & 4th pin from left on the upper row. Fpanel is also usually bottom right of mobo
Fair, but still check your manual to be sure
Or also look at the mobo, it's often labeled. 
True, sometimes silkscreened into the pcb
It's always the front panel headers
That is often a good starting point for "doesn't turn on at all"
This is the third case I've seen in the last 5 weeks
I mean they are really annoying
there should just be a standard
Like it can be backwards compatible
Just merge the headers all into one thing
The layout could be the same it's just less confusing
Well there is a standard. But Asus in their infinite wisdom decided they don't need to listen to the standards and made a giant connector for no reason. Then Gigabyte followed suit.
They saw apples proprietary cables and connectors and thought "yeah that's not stupid at all"
💀
"10 pin connector? Nah lets do a 20 pin, that won't take up too much space and we can say it's better because different."
What
How much money did yall "save" by designing, testing, and specially manufacturing proprietary plastic clips instead of using standard
Because everyone knows if you want to combine the normal 10 pin header with the 4 pin speaker header you need a 20 pin header to do it
The funny thing is they do when they feel like it
Both of these are X570 too
the industry should come together
And make a single plug for the 10 pin
Like there's no virtually difference across boards
Saves time trying to plug in several tiny little headwrs
Some cases do come with a single header
fr?
Good to hear, enjoy pc
Yeah there's like some cases with one fat header for it
Could probably count the number of cases with that on both hands
It's too good
If you look closely at the asus 20 pin connector there's 2 sets of pins that do the same thing. They had to modify their 20 pin to match up with the normal 10 pin just in case someone gets a case with that single plug.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
oh hey btw
Like
now that i got it on
The usb header is one thing
how do i get windows to boot onto bios?
Do you have a USB drive ready with the installer?
You get bios to boot into windows
yeah
can i plug it into any usb port or
Yep any port will do. Preferably rear yes but front should be fine unless there's an issue with it.
i already tried it but it wont let me boot
its an asrock bios
maybe im not using it right
Which boot device did you select?
Press F11 when the Asrock logo comes up and it'll bring up a boot selection menu
ok
brb
ok it works
i thank you guys so much
this was such a fun journey
heres my buildb tw
gpu isnt here yet but
it works!
That first build is always the most fun imo. I enjoy a good challenge and figuring out problems.
Enjoy!
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 3600X, GeForce GTX 1660, Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower
Any idea what’s wrong?
Prob tpm is off
BIOS setting?
Trusted platform module
@honest knot, also the board you found for me has working front IO despite what the listing said
Windows 11 decided to mandate the fancy security thing
So can I not enable it or something?
W
IKR
You should be able to enable it
Alright, I'll go look for it RQ
It's probably cuz their case front i/o got busted or smth
Or maybe they inserted the case cables in the wrong place?
Eh it doesn't matter at least it works
Yeah for $50 it ain't bad
✅
Hi everyone, first time posting in here and looking for some help. Bought a new comp and I've built a couple PCs in my life but I have no idea why this computer won't even turn on. Yes, I've checked if the power switch was on lol
Should be it?
It looks already enabled
Any debug LEDs, any other signs?
So I'm confused
Nothing on the board the only light I get is from the Internet cable in the back
Go to CPU configuration and fTPM switch
Oh I saw that one sec
And switch to CPU fTPM
I just disassembled it all and put it all back in and double checked all my connections
And enable secure boot
Alright
Got a part list?
Take the power button connector off and touch the pins together with a screwdriver.
And just double check the PSU is switched to " I "
?
Go to security and enable secure boot
If secure boot is already enabled, set it to custom, then set it back to standard, accepting the factory defaults
Shared List https://newegg.io/fcb5679
Cooler I took off but it was a cooler master ml360L V2 argb
You'll probably need a bios update, but that wouldn't cause it to not turn on
Won’t let me enable it
“User Mode”?
Try install default keys
?
If it would turn on I could go into the Asus bios to update that. I'm not even sure this thing has any LEDs I didn't see any on the actual board
There's usually some near the 24 pin that are used for diagnostics
Did you try this @quaint burrow
It has come to my attention that my BIOS is over a year old
mine is almost a year old, it's not much of an issue
Ok guys I fiddled with all the power cables and finally got it turned on sooo thanks!
Now I have no display great more troubleshooting time 😞
Yeah now it’s just refusing to boot from the USB with secure boot on
Make sure the display cable is plugged into the GPU
Lol it is
Always have to start with the basics, I know it gets annoying sometimes lol
Monitor on the right input?
It's from old comp it better be I haven't changed anything
Resocketed ram and vid card still nothing also
Hmmm do I have to disable on board vid card with a pin still or is that an old school problem?
Mostly old school thing but you can try using the integrated GPU if you have one
At least temporarily
Any lights on near the 24 pin cable?
I mean RGB is real so yes but not the ones you're thinking
Ok so it did probably post properly and the issue is somewhere between the GPU and the monitor
Well I stuck an HDMI and display port with two different monitors and still getting nothing on either screen
Did you restart after changing cables
Yes
so good news
the computer works
im actually using it to write this rn
but anyways its doing just fine]
what are some normal temps btw for the cpu
i usually get around 40 c when im using it for normal activites
and 70 for gaming
that sounds normal
Aye
don't use that calculator thing
Ah
Every system has a bottleneck, they're fundamentally misusing the term
^
bottleneck is such a superfluous topic
no point trying to use a calculator because it all comes off assumptions
it also varies with each workload
It's a dumb metric for measuring performance
can frame rate be affected by the monitor?
If there's any sync involved yes
wdym by sync
Gsync, vsync, freesync
like if the monitor is connected to a pc via cable
There are technologies which are commonly used to sync the gpu with the monitor for frame output
Improves frame pacing
And governs it
im using an igpu for the time being
Lol
So why do you want to know this question
idk
i just thought my computer would run faster than it would
i mean it works alot better
i mean it has 32 gb of ram
ryzen 5 7600
1 tb of storage
it's abn 550
@mossy venture
W
You gotta find me a Bluetooth and WiFi card on TikTok if possible
Imma use the coupon and buy
gimme a few and i gotchu
Thanks
How do I connect those antennas
as in you cannot see the pcie slot looking face on at the pc?
Ok
but your solution might be an m.2 wifi card with a USB bluetooth connector
well thats annoying
not sure it'd fit, I'd ask someone else
And my m.2 is behind the gpu I think
that'd be fine, would just have to take ouyt the gpu to put it in
that small one would normally be what you put a pcie wifi card in
mm
one sec
It isn't tiktok but this is m.2, if you end up having to buy one not on tiktok https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Wi-Fi-Gig-Desktop-AX200-NGWG-NV/dp/B085M7VPDP/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?
Alright
@mossy venture I got another one
15$ of no min spend
Is this one good? https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8kghcFj/
Yeah thats good
Alright
Alright dumb question
I daisy chained the RGB cable for the Frozen Notte and two Thermalright fans
For some reason the fans and pump are auto defaulting to green and I dunno if it was a software issue or hardware issue because neither were showing up on SignalRGB
I tried downloading the ASRock’s RGB software for the board but it wouldn’t open, I’ll try again tonight but dunno what else to do
Rig ain’t for me so I just wanna put on RGB software that’s easy to use
I assume ARGB? If so, did you set the LED count to amt of LEDs that can be addressed (remember to think about what is hooked up in series and what is hooked up in parallel).
@little osprey
There's two ARGB fans and the one ARGB pump
All of which are daisy chained onto a single header
Wait
One second need to check the manual and see if the header was addressable or not
Yeah I should have the three pin daisy chain plugged into 24
SignalRGB was weird, I might try to use ASRock's RGB software again or use OpenRGB just to confirm if the board is reading the header or not
Which one the best @ or dm me I’m trying to see which one to buy
Would you be willing to build your own? With tiktok shop you can do a lot better for $400
If not, first one is the best
Na I rather not
This one
Really? I'd have gone with the 5600x/6600 one
Waaaaay better than a 1660
The 6600 is more comparable to a 1080 even, 2 tiers up
I think he meant the second one
Question for anyone. I currently have only 5 fans to install. I will get more later. What is the best configuration for me to place my 5 fans?
The rear of the case is the top if you are looking at the picture. Sorry I should have taken it the correct way so it doesn’t throw you off
@potent portal
3 front intake, 1 top rear exhaust, 1 rear exhaust
It would probably be side intake but close enough
Same diff
Yes
Awesome thank you 😊
np
Anyone free for FaceTime? Idk where some wires go 😅 or video chat if that works on this app
Disregard
So I just realized my Motherboard does not have a USB 3.0 and a USB 3.1 Gen 2 connection. Will that be a big problem?
My case is the Lian Li O11 Mini and those are the 2 front panel system I/O ports
Does that mean I bought the wrong MB for my case? Cause if so that sucks cause PC Part Picker said they were compatible
usb 3.1/3.2 or w/e are these bigger ones, normal/older usb2.0/3.0 are these smaller ones. USB32 w/e = usb 3.2, which is what you use if the case cable matches. Certain things on mobos are slightly-standardized like this.
@strong raft so per my manual for my case. I have a usb 3.0 wire and a usb 3.1 gen 2 wire.
Where would each go? 🤔
Cool I’m gonna try it
smaller 1 in last pic is usb C, seems to have multiple names on some mobos. haha
Lol bro you saved my life they fit. The wording in my manual was throwing me off smh 🤦🏽♂️
@strong raft ok 1 more question
HD Audio wire
I’m 99% sure it plugs in here
yeah
The difficulty I’m running into, is it should just slide into place. I also checked that I have the pins lined up so I don’t break anything. But I’m having a hard time putting it on
Is that because the wire is brand new??
Ok, I didn’t want to put too much force cause I didn’t want to break anything 😅.
I’ll try it now and let you know how it goes @pseudo pollen
Sounds good
props on 1 of the best ssds. If there already something under the top slot ( ssd sized silver/white heatsink)? if not, we just prefer that a single ssd goes there.
Hmm I’m putting pretty good force on it, more than I feel I need to @pseudo pollen
make sure that the pins line up, and just push, it will take a bit more force then you think it would
I have the word “HD AUDIO” face up towards the MB to match the pins fyi
Copy I’ll try again
Yes I have a solidigm SSD under there to for a total of 2 SSDs ☺️
Uh, I'd put a heatsink on that p44 pro ssd
It kinda, needs one
Understood
eh not totally if anything like the how a plat P41 normally is, but that's going by TPU who basically couldn't make it thermal throttle even w/ a 600+ GB write on a 2TB model. (although I did heatsink mine gotta admit)
Bruh this dam Hd Audio wire is a pain. I feel like I have to really shove it in
It slides 1/4 of the way so I know for sure it’s matched correctly. But when I try to put it in the rest of the way it’s being difficult
They had a heatsink on it
It's on the same power tier as a 980 pro
It absolutely needs one
just shove it in all the way then, it's not the end of the world if you break it, since it doesn't really matter unless you use the from audio ports
Yeah I’m trying rn lol
@minor cypress ek nvme heatsinks can be found relatively cheap, very effective and low profile. Try anywhere not their main website
Very very good sinks, worth keeping
@pseudo pollen I gave up and just put it on as much as I could sigh
If anything I’ll take it to my local computer store to find out why
Do you even need the front audio ports though
@potent portal idk, I was just plugging it in just because 😅
I was just following my manual
no video?
I found a YouTube video where it shows it just sliding in easily but mine doesn’t
So I’m just gonna leave it for now
I think it's better to leave it loose if it won't fit to avoid any psu overcurrent trips
I spent an hour trying to do it 🤦🏽♂️ 😂
It's honestly one of the best connectors for that to happen
One of the most optional ones yes
True, but left alone could be the worst
Audio drivers are terrible
No need to add more fuel to that fire

Onboard audio really is garbage 99/100 times
Ye but it's still usable
It'll work after tweaking for 6 hours and then randomly stop working for no reason
Ryzen moment
💀
Ryzen is so much worse too
If it breaks it's almost unfixable
To the point where spamming the reinstall is the lottery luck solution
Realtek 
I'd take an old sound blaster card over onboard
Guess what's in my two new rigs?

Well I have a dac if I want proper audio
It's useful if I need to just plug my headphones in rq
Which happens a lot if I need a video conference
That's why I'm so glad my headset just uses a generic USB DAC
If the headset dies I can still use the dac
Hello, I'm new to this server. I've been playing Cities Skylines for a couple of years. I upgraded my RAM on my basic desktop PC (Dell Inspiron 3670) a few months ago and this has worked out quite well (32GB). With the new CS2, it seems my graphics card just can't cut it. I tried playing CS2 for the first time today and each time I selected a menu item to build out any asset, the entire map turns a bright yellow and I can't see what I'm doing at all. My research implies my low level graphics card is the culprit. I want to be sure I don't purchase a graphics card that won't fit or function in my existing PC. PCs have evolved a lot since I was building desktops in high school so I honestly don't know what specs to be looking for to ensure an appropriate fit and function. I'd prefer to keep the purchase under $100 but would be willing to go up to $200 if necessary. Input greatly appreciated. Thank you 🙂
True, there's also the apple usbc dac
Subverts the onboard altogether
Idk the gene one seems alright
My ux was apparently decent too by freq response
Those aren't cheap boards tho
It's nothing compared to a separate dac either
I have the hyperx cloud 2 so it's pretty independent, I can use the headset on my PS4 by plugging into the controller too
I'm happy with it and that's what matters right?
Cities skylines 2 seems to struggle on anything rn
When the best in class graphics card can barely do 30 fps in it's home turf, it's a heavy as hell game
Just prefacing this because you might find 100$ or 200$ mightn't be enough
Could get a used 6600 XT for $165
Seems people are complaining a lot. part of me wonders if I should wait and see if the patches and bug fixes the devs work out over the next few weeks would be a good call.
I would say so yeah
What do you have now is the question
What are the specs I need to check to be sure it'll fit? I honestly don't remember and it's been ages since I built PCs from scratch.
Cpu, gpu, ram, psu
1650 super, yeah that'll be showing it's age all right
Indood
Looks like the link with specs gives upgrade options further down the page.
Do you have an i3 i5 i7 or i9
Looks like that stock power supply doesn't have any PCIe connectors
Does it fit a standard PSU?
it does
it's an atx case
but so tiny it can only fit the mobo itself
gpu can't be too long
I hope so cos dell uses those sausage ones
Hoo boy
whole new rig is a better way
Definitely not ATX
Or some brute force and carelessness
External power for GPU? Adapters? lol
And that case doesn't look wide enough for a standard psu either
i5. and according to this link i5 should be sufficient https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/cities-skylines-2/22585
Yeah it would be LOL
Yeah I know this isn't ideal but I can't invest in a whole new computer. When I purchased this desktop in 2020, it was just for working from home
I hoped that some wise upgrading would make it possible for me to play
Peach, your pc has a common dell problem
It's the only game I'm currently playing
Dell does cheap, out of style, or custom spec
To make things as affordable as possible for them
Yeah, I definitely didn't have gaming in mind when I purchased.
So what you get is a pc that works
But if you want to change anything it's dead on it's feet
If we recommend you a gpu the best we could do is a higher power LP card
Which isn't that strong
Rather all for a couple options iirc (expensive those ones) it's worse than what you have
Cos the PSU isn't up to scratch
If you wanted to run the psu externally tho, and be a little jank, that works
A 3050 would meet the game spec and there's models without supplemental PCIe power
Does it? At what reso tho lol
You'd be looking at 1080p low/medium probably
The lp 4060 would probably be about as high as I think possible
Minimum is a 970
i pray 4050 is 75w for desktop
but looking at laptops..
4050 is probs not 75w card
lol
I hate that used 3050s are more expensive than used 6600 XTs
nvidia fee™
on other news..
they're all equipped with 610m 
rip to mini pcs
oof
that's crazy
Thanks for trying to help. I'm just going to have to table this for now
I think your best bet peach
In a high pop city yeah, everything struggles there
And this is a weird recommendation from me
4060 LP
It's low power, so it'll slot right in
But it's not cheap
It'd run your game tho
Well enough imo
If a 2080S struggles to hit 24fps, it's a big hill to climb LOL
Those cards go second hand near 200
You could grab one of those? And add a separate psu for $52
Apevia prestige 600w
But if you want a clean upgrade it eould be the pricey 4060 LP
Just because dell does what it does
They don't make life easy lol
Psu sucks man, the cables come 2 attactched
Better than what he has
Well it's a cheap decent unit
Which is basically nothing
Yeah
Yeah peach has none

It's gonna come with caveats anyway
The days of cheap psu's are long behind us
Blame the ukraine conflict for that
Caveats? What are those
Drawbacks
Controversial take lmao
Hey I'm not taking a side saying that lol
Wish cheap semi mod or modular psus still exists
But psus did get more expensive due to sanctions aligning with the event
^
The war disrupted a lot, partially due to the major sanctions against russia and allied nations
Neon supply suffering
Well all in all, I appreciate everyone taking the time to try to help me out. Seems I'm correct, the g card is the problem but upgrade options seem moot because of the usual Dell issues. I think I'll need to make a gaming PC a reward for meeting my big end of year goal. I can play CS1 in the meantime.
Noble gases you need for large caps
Cs1 is still playable?
yep
Cities skyline 1
Not an issue with CS1.
Context
Ohhh
yes Cities SKylines
It's not cs1 like csgo
Yeah ikr lol
nope
Since the minimum GPU is a GTX 970 and that'll struggle a lot with medium population, the 1650 is below even that
Sorry to disappoint, haven't played any FPS games since college and I never enjoyed them or was ever any good
Naw bro it’s fine, I just did not know what it was
I loved Civ 3 for ages, was my fave game for a long time. So in 2021 when I was looking for a new game to try, I found Cities and just couldn't stop watching YT videos of others playing.
@white shadow come back here when you're ready to build a new pc
Aim for a budget of about
Thanks. I will
Yeah
$700 USD would make an awesome starter PC
Yes sir and it runs 1440p if I wanted to but prob not gonna get
Picked up a WiFi card for 8 bucks today
From TikTok shop
Or if not that @white shadow then this like we talked about
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Mt9wrH/gigabyte-oc-low-profile-geforce-rtx-4060-8-gb-video-card-gv-n4060oc-8gl
$325 before tax
Oh wait
@white shadow nvm it needs a power connector wtf
I was mistaken 
pinging him so much why
And maybe salvage the parts
Yeah, seems the consensus
Yeah, I got no easy answer here haha
Yeah I'll def take my ram and both my drives to my build
I'll see what othe parts I can salvage
Definitely not with the given budget yeah
Molex adapter 
Thanks again all, I gotta go. Have a great day/night 🙂

Bruh I thought that said 4080 for a sec
Bruh a 4080 LP would be like 10 fans long
Freaking lightsaber with all that rgb
Only missing a grip to swing with 
My wallet is itching to buy something, idk what I should
So many good options to buy
4080 lp
I’ll make one
Is there a decent monitor that’s smaller than the FV43U but bigger than the M32U?
^for anyone like me who doesn't know how large those are, in between 32" and 43"
If you want 16:9 I think the choices are slim
According to pcpp there are 14 monitors in that range, the cheapest is $615
LG C2 42"
Anything in the middle just, doesn't really get recommended if it's not an ultra wide
Alright well I’ve nailed down why the ARGB on the AIO and fans isn’t being picked up by software
After reading a few posts and looking at my own box the only mention of ARGB software seems to be Aura Sync which I presume is referring to Asus’s thing
While the fans may support different software, I have them daisy chained onto the AIO ARGB cable
So I’ll get the wifi cable hooked up today and pray to God that the Aura Sync thing works
why do you need specifically wifi for aura sync?
just use armoury crate to preset it
same thing
or open rgb
if it's not being picked up by the motherboard it may not even be plugged in properly
asus software just auto detects all strips in the stream, I know cos I do it
have you been using it without any internet
Using what?
the pc
Yes
Why not grab your own PC for internet
you know you can usb tether your phone for internet right
I can?
mhm, it's a pretty normal feature nowadays
Well yeah I ran a cable
Alright I’ll try when I get home

Thanks
I forget how to do that every time
Just hook up your charger to your computer and go to your phone settings and enable USB tethering
Yeah plug in your iPad block
The two hot pins jammed into two USB C ports
I literally have to spend like 10-30 minutes figuring it out each time because I try via Bluetooth and wifi direct first
I even do dual connections
My network module doesn't have functioning Bluetooth for whatever reason so obviously that doesn't work
like band steering or combine my phone tether and cable net
my net, albeit slow and high ping to the states
it can be quite good if I brute force the hell out of it
Hi. Can anyone help me with finding some parts to build a computer that can run vrchat? Im in California.
Any good ways to measure how much power my computer draws in a day on average?
Smart UPS
is that a app?
No it's hardware
Oh. Any software I can use?
Doesn't need to be exact, just need a rough estimation.
You could log your stats with hwinfo
Oh, okay.
How do I log the stats, or is that the same as just running HWinfo in the background.
There's a button with a sheet of paper with a green plus over it, the tooltip shows "logging start"
Yep
Will it update to the same log when I start it again or do I need to make a new file?
You'll be able to read the data in any app that can open .csv files.
You'll need to start the logging and it'll ask where to put the log every time you want to use it. You can set a hotkey in settings and tell it to start on boot at least.
Gotcha.
Trying to figure out what my 5700G's power draw will be when I reuse it for a server soon.
My budget is flexible. I have no parts because i dont know which ones to get.
Processor Intel® i5-4590 / AMD FX 8350 equivalent or greater Memory 4 GB RAM Graphics NVIDIA GeForce® GTX 970 / AMD Radeon™ R9 290 equivalent or greater DirectX Version 11 Storage 21.5GB (~1.5GB for application, remaining for content cache)
Vertex shader 5.1
Pixel shader 5.1
Is what it told me i needee to run vrchat but i dont which pieces of hardware are consideree more powerful and bettee than what they suggested
Like id like to get 8 to 12 ram and 2 tb storage memory
This would be an ideal starter option. It's decently mid-high end and should handle just about anything you throw at it. You can save some money if you wanted, or go even higher end.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p4Rb28
Part List - Intel Core i5-12400F, Radeon RX 6700 XT, Phanteks Eclipse G300A (1 Fan) ATX Mid Tower
Wow did you put the list together for me? If thats the case yeah ill probably save up to the get higher end parts then. Would the Seagate brand barracuda work with this setup?
You could add any HDD like that to this with no issues for extra storage
There's not a whole lot of reason to get them these days with SSDs being so cheap though
If you had it already then you can pop it in
Yeah thats why i asked. I got some 2 tbs seagates in my storage brand new. Wanted to see ifol i could use em. Sweet. Thanks for the help! Greatly appreciate it!
Is there a specific motherboard i need for this?
Any B660 or B760 should do. Or if you wanted the option to overclock a K CPU later you can get a Z690 or Z790.
I'd recommend a board with DDR5 memory and not DDR4
You could also go AMD instead for a little bit more performance for a little more money
Noted. Again thanks👍
@potent portal dang I thought 3 120mm Lian li fans would fit on the rear as Intake
In the Lian li mini snow case
Would it be ok if I put those 3 on the bottom of case as intake and then my last 2 as 1 rear exhaust and 1 top exhaust?
top should be intake
and bottom should be exhausr
if i'm correct
@manic cloak I have 5 fans total
oh
I did 3 bottom as intake
1 top exhaust
1 rear exhaust
The way the pic is that’s is right side up
ikik
If anything I’ll change it later
you should be fine with 1 exhaust rear, 2 or 3 top intakes
5th fan you can throw anywhere
bottom should usually be exhaust though
cause there's not gonna be as much air flow compared to top from the bottom
I guess you could say air follows gravity? 
Some of the wackest stuff I've heard.
uh no
you should actually keep the bottom fans as intake for this case
or the gpu will be choked from air
back exhaust
side intake
no need for top fans
Is there a way when you press a key it turns on mic but when you press again it like turn off mic
Push to talk sucks and I don’t wanna hold it when I’m talking
How do?
not sure how
or use voice activity
Wat dat
Hmm alright I’ll try
not speech, but rather loudness of sounds
Thanks fox
too sensitive it picks up everything
I have a bunch of background noise so yeah
too low and you have to raise your voice
Might not be able to do that
Unhinged
Any idea as to why Windows is acting up when I run anything in the USB ports?
Keeps saying power surge or something and the USB port is drawing more than the PSU can handle
It happens with a USB drive and wireless mouse/keyboard
I’ve tried different ports too and it still shows up until I click on the notification and click close even though it claims it won’t work until I restart the PC
But the mouse/keyboard and USB drive work just fine despite this?
Could it be the lack of an IO plate?
Have you updated bios?
:(
It sounds like it'd be related to ryzens usb drop out issues, or the mobo is faulty
Everything works fine after I close the notification but I’m just confused why it’s showing up in the first place
Listing for the motherboard said the USB 3.2 header didn’t work but it works for me
I’ll check but I’m still confused
Everything else works fine, she’s gonna pick it up this evening
Just trying to get everything quirked out before then
If AMD mobo have you tested CPU, chipset, and "indirect" chipset controllers (indirect being non-internal chipset controllers connected to chipset)?
@south cliff is that bottom fan set to exhaust??


