building-and-recc-chat

[potent portal]

The HDD

[round cloud]

Ya, i dont plan on ever using an HDD again tbh

[potent portal]

That's why most HDD cages have rubber feet, anti vibration feature

I still use a few because I need mass storage. I have 14TB total and it's almost full again.

[round cloud]

Nice. I bet I fill my 2tb up pretty quickly and will maybe spring for a 4tb nvme and hopefully not think about capacity until next pc build

I like having a large number of games to choose from, and they’re getting to be ridiculously big

Pc looks cool tho, I put a pic in build pics

[potent portal]

Looks pretty good yeah. I'd pull that 24 pin cable through a bit more, it just looks neater that way hidden in the back.

[round cloud]

The mobo one? Ill try it next time I poke around

[potent portal]

I do have to say it looks a lot better than my first build

[round cloud]

Well, I did build one with my dad like 15 years ago haha. And I basically had to build this one twice. I was determined to have it look decent

[jovial mica]

A 5600G+gigabyte B550M+550W nzxt PSU, any suggestions in improving my build around the same price

Also I'll do a GPU upgrade in the future and maybe swap out a new CPU after a couple of years

[plucky timber]

pcpartpicker list?

[restive halo]

I have https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JchDZJ
I'm thinking a integrated gpu/cpu and storage for a PC for my wife. She wants to build it with me as her first pc

[obsidian wigeon]

4600g will do

[restive halo]

@earnest olive @cyan ravine Build done.

[restive halo]

That's what I figured but I wasn't sure if there was a better option. What would be the gpu upgrade path? 6650xt?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[restive halo]

Ok

[obsidian wigeon]

around that level of gpu perf will give you a good experience

[restive halo]

Heard. Thanks

@obsidian wigeon Any deals on 4600g?

[obsidian wigeon]

lemme see what's the cheapest cpu with integrated gpu for the board

[restive halo]

It's only $99 lol wow

[obsidian wigeon]

seems to me 4600g is cheapest out of all rn

yeah, $99

[restive halo]

5700g provides more longevity though correct?

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

it performs more like a 3700x

but certainly faster than 4600g by a good chunk

[restive halo]

Then 5600g is in the middle

5600g or 5700g says they are able to game at 1080p?

[cyan ravine]

🔥

nice!

looks really good, might suggest flipping the fans at the bottom so the gpu is getting given fresh air, that's it

[restive halo]

Thanks. First build I have done in that style of case.

[cyan ravine]

it looks great man, the effort shows

[restive halo]

I was thinking that but though about the bottom usually being the dirtiest part and did not want it sucking dirt or dust up into the pc?

[cyan ravine]

is there a filter at the bottom?

[restive halo]

I'll show you after I fix up a few stray wires. I also flipped the fans up top to pull air in through the radiator

[cyan ravine]

oh that works

as long as you have a guided intake route or two

otherwise it'll just suck dust through every hole and it gets so dirty

[restive halo]

Intake at the top all the others are out take. Maybe switch the back fan to intake so it flows to the front and over the gpu?

[cyan ravine]

you could do the side fans ye?

[restive halo]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

see if I can link a video just to uh, demonstrate negative pressure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLX54ounENY&ab_channel=LinusTechTips

simple rule is, more intake than outlet = you're good

the radiator doesn't matter too much if you go intake (I know it does but in the right case it really doesn't)

so you can use it as a bit of a dust filter

[restive halo]

I'll switch the side fans then it will be 4 in 3 out

[cyan ravine]

ye that's perfect

It looks great though

[restive halo]

Take a new picture when it's done

Thanks

I have done so many builds since I started on discord lol. You learn more and more every build.

[cyan ravine]

I just like looking at these builds you guys do, and it's just materialisation of proper spending

no super expensive needless motherboard

no pretty and flashy fans

a proper aio not worth a fortune but still great

like you can tell just by looking at it, it looks great but also, it's not overspent

[plucky timber]

for me

the case makes all the difference

[cyan ravine]

very rarely am I moved by something that goes beyond what I recommend in price

[plucky timber]

most parts are usually covered up

[cyan ravine]

oh yeah def

[plucky timber]

but the case is always on full display

[cyan ravine]

But I can tell most of that build before I even write it out

[plucky timber]

My old motherboard was ugly but you won't notice it unless you actually look for it

[cyan ravine]

I've just done so many of them now lol

board is a620m/b650m pro rs
ram is teamgroup 5600 cl32 most likely

frozen notte 240 aio

thermalright c12c fans by the looks of it?

judging by the shutter

so probably a decent ssd like a p41 plus

I think that's a 30 series MSI which is fine

sorry no

that's probably a 4070ti

Gaming classic

yee I see the rgb now

4070/ti

[earnest olive]

😔

not gonna lie these unifans are pretty great I don't regret it

$40 for 3 brand new

since the ones I bought used had dead LEDs lian li sent me warranty replacements

[cyan ravine]

But 12$ per premium fan is fine imo

It's when it's more like, 25, 30, 50

Then I start wondering like hey, there's a gpu upgrade in that

Or a case upgrade, cpu, storage etc

I can't help it, I've done the routine for so long it's engraved into me

[south cliff]

but im getting higher temps and there is no air blowing out of the top

higher temps is only 2*c

C

[potent portal]

I was referring to the GPU

[south cliff]

oh

so they are prolly the wrong way

[potent portal]

Guess we both got mixed up now that I look at the convo

On most case fans the side with the frame is the direction of the airflow unless you specifically got reverse flow fans

[south cliff]

look its like flipped

[strong raft]

Direction of blades spinning is irrelevant

[potent portal]

Which way does the bottom fan spin? Clockwise or counterclockwise?

[south cliff]

it looks like its spinning right or clockwise

maybe im just stupid

[potent portal]

If it's clockwise then the air direction is normal

[south cliff]

ill send pic of what they look like

ram wont sync to signal rgb

its alright tho

[potent portal]

Chipset drivers installed?

[south cliff]

where do i see

[potent portal]

Device manager

If you have things with yellow "!" then you're missing drivers

[south cliff]

nope nothing has that

[potent portal]

Reseat your RAM then, that helps sometimes.

[little osprey]

Sceptre Curved 24.5-inch Gaming Monitor up to 240Hz 1080p R1500 1ms DisplayPort x2 HDMI x2 Blue Light Shift Build-in Speakers, Machine Black 2023 (C255B-FWT240) https://a.co/d/hs5XHGR

Is this worth the price?

240hz for $130????

[mossy venture]

I would rather a good quality 144-165hz monitor than a mid 240hz monitor around that price point

One sec

[potent portal]

Curved 24 inch, no thanks

[little osprey]

I don’t like curved but this is looks good

240 HZ for $130

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824160515?Item=N82E16824160515&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-160-515-_-10212023

[little osprey]

Is worth it

[potent portal]

It would be a crappy VA panel

[mossy venture]

Why ask if it's worth it and then make a statement that it is worth it

[little osprey]

Sorry meant to say is it worth the price

[mossy venture]

A higher quality panel would be much more worth it, a lot of people won't notice a big difference between 144hz and 240hz

[potent portal]

It's worth the price if you can accept the low quality

[mossy venture]

But the difference between a mediocre VA panel and a solid ips panel, the monitor I linked, is like night and day

Also is $35 cheaper

For an overall better experience

[little osprey]

Can you find one for $149ish? Looking for good hz, and a good quality

[mossy venture]

That one is high quality and high refresh

[potent portal]

The vast majority of people can't tell the difference between 144 hz and 240

[mossy venture]

There aren't any solid 240hz choices under in a $150 budget

[little osprey]

My gaming laptop is 240hz, so am just looking for a monitor around there.

[formal girder]

144hz was the sweet spot for me on 1440P and should be great for 1080P

[little osprey]

Thank you for the tip

[mossy venture]

The cheapest is $165 and still a worse panel than the 144hz one I linked

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zcqrxr/msi-g244f-238-1920-x-1080-170-hz-monitor-g244f

Or, 180hz (which no human can tell the difference from 170) https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zzVmP6/gigabyte-g24f-2-238-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-g24f-2

[weak flint]

do you guys even use dp?

[potent portal]

Displayport? That's the best option usually

[mossy venture]

I'd say more people use dp than hdmi

[weak flint]

really?

[potent portal]

Gamers at least yes

[little osprey]

Got one for 27’

[potent portal]

There's a reason GPUs have 1 HDMI port and 3 DP

[mossy venture]

Between my partners, mine and my brothers 5 monitors none of us use hdmi

[mossy venture]

27" at 1080p isn't a great experience, unless you sit really far from your monitor

But one sec

[weak flint]

yeah but ive only seen 5 people like daily drive it, and besides i barely used it im fine with 120hz lmfao

[little osprey]

Am currently doing 1440p

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yHJp99/aoc-27g15-270-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-27g15

[potent portal]

I'm only using my HDMI port right now because my secondary monitor is 900p 60hz lol

[mossy venture]

What?

[weak flint]

i was wondering how that 540hz rog monitor worked cause does dp even support 540hz?

[potent portal]

Yes it can

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CGVY3YYB?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[little osprey]

Going to pick this

Thank you

@mossy venture I recomend you joining Amazon Affilste and making some extra money

[potent portal]

Can't share affiliate links here

[little osprey]

Ooooooooo

[potent portal]

I wish we could too because then I would actually be able to make some money here while I'm also "working" (managing a team that mostly runs itself)

[south cliff]

ask if they can make that change

[potent portal]

They can't

It would harm the recommendations we make

[little osprey]

if it harms the recommendations

then people will argue

[earnest olive]

ngl it was a really good feeling to remove some cables from the back of my pc lmao

makes me want to get more of them

less splitter hell

I have a 1 to 11 powered splitter lmao

[obsidian wolf]

this is A tier right

?

[potent portal]

yes all the RM series is

[obsidian wolf]

aight

doing a swap up

what do you think?

Later down the line swap the 6950 for a 4090 or a xtx

[mossy venture]

Those fans are 8x the price of rgb black fans from thermalright that perform better

Xpg core reactor 850 is the same tier for $15 less, but rme is good

Frozen notte 240 is half the price for very similar performance

Case is expensive but if you want that look it's good

[late fjord]

Been using those thermalright fans since Monday and they work very well

[hot monolith]

Someone help, I can't seem to install my GPU into my case. The metal bracket thing can't go into the right place

[lethal tapir]

Line it up first and slot both the mounting bracket and the pcie board at the same time

[hot monolith]

where do I slot the bracket into though

not enough space

[lethal tapir]

The case

[hot monolith]

one minute

[lethal tapir]

Does the back have some kind of cover like this

[hot monolith]

what cover

[hot monolith]

oh my god

thanks

[lethal tapir]

Those screws look like they're under some cover

[hot monolith]

I understand

bro you won't believe it

[lethal tapir]

Cool cool

[hot monolith]

I'm helping my friend build a pc with the same parts as mine

don't remember removing that thing

So I was lost

thanks man💀

[lethal tapir]

Classic

[hot monolith]

when I was making mine

[little osprey]

Is 6700 XT/6750 XT still good value and capable enough for 1440p?

[mossy venture]

Yeah

6700xt is the lowest gpu I'd buy with the intent of running 1440p on though

[hearty mist]

So i have a room i can make a mancave/ gaming room

What do u guys recommend i do first

[mossy venture]

I have no idea how to make a gaming room, but if there's anything specific you're looking to buy I could give reccs for that

[little osprey]

Need GPU dual fan model recommendations that are 290mm or less

Oh wait NVM PCPP has length filter

[hearty mist]

Wall panels

A desk

Should i paint

Or get wall panels

[mossy venture]

If you want soundproofing then get the foam tile things

If not then paint

[south cliff]

It was becasue of gcc it was messing up signal rgb i guess i just unistalled it and were good now

bro 25ghz

i guess i actually won the lottery

[teal dome]

Get a desk, pc setup, led lights on walls, wall panels, maybe paint to a lighter cooler your choice tho, figurines maybe or display stuff like keyboards

[weary galleon]

These don't really soundproof btw

They help with reverb but aren't going to like stop noise from traveling through walls

[weary galleon]

I wish they did tho. Good soundproofing is expensive and/or bulky

[teal dome]

guys

why does my computer have a seizure when i try to use tabs side to side

[jagged ember]

I thought they did

They attenuate noise

[weary galleon]

This article explains it

https://soundproofcentral.com/soundproof-foam/

[sterile elk]

Paid 360$ cad for this

Case new
Gtx 1070 8gb
I5-6600 new
16gb ram ddr4 new
Psu 500w
240gb ssd
500gb hdd
Windows 10 pro activated

How much can it be sold for

[little osprey]

Uhhhh

@dusky hearth

Hey Canada man

[dusky hearth]

💀

[little osprey]

What’s the market like up there

[dusky hearth]

crap

almost said the s version of crap

[little osprey]

He’s using CAD and I dunno what to tell him

So I thought you could help him

[dusky hearth]

maybe like 400 cad - 500 at most for it to actually sell

not optimistic about 500

this guy tweaking

similar specs ish, older cpu though

list it for $500 obo

[little osprey]

Ew

4690K

4790K 💪

[lyric thistle]

4790 non K

[little osprey]

Cringe

[lyric thistle]

The real based is what makes the masses cringe

[obsidian wigeon]

it's canada

450 cad ain't much

[teal dome]

400 usd no?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

327

looks reasonable enough for the parts it has

[teal dome]

still a lot for ddr3

gotta upgrade the whole pc and maybe use the gpu

[strong raft]

ddr3 is less of a performance factor than that cpu

[lyric thistle]

If that's your takeaway then don't buy it lol

Get a standalone 1070

[potent portal]

CAD value took a dive early august

[lyric thistle]

It was me I devalued Canada

[latent condor]

Is rx6600 good with ryzen 5 5600

for games like elden ring or apex legends

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9YjyWt

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

are these parts bought?

[latent condor]

not yet

[obsidian wigeon]

what's your budget for the whole build?

[latent condor]

730 but under 700 would be ideal

also amazon only

[obsidian wigeon]

it's better to shop from many different places tho

[latent condor]

that would be okay if they shipped to many different places

[obsidian wigeon]

alright

[latent condor]

oh btw are evga powersupplys okay?

[obsidian wigeon]

model over brand

evga has bad and good units

[latent condor]

80+ bronze 550w

[obsidian wigeon]

lemme make you a list in a bit

[latent condor]

i have a list i just need a power supply and ssd

I have a pc this one is for a friend

[obsidian wigeon]

i can do better for em

[latent condor]

ok

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hZxD34

Boop

Go with an rx6700 instead if you want under 700

So non-xt

[latent condor]

lil to expensive

also only amazon ships there

[cyan ravine]

Alr
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WhfHWt

[latent condor]

is this good? https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Bronze-Warranty-Compact-100-BP-0550-K1/dp/B0B1S1PN6H/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2PQTE2LUZDNVR&keywords=power+supply&qid=1697952182&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6906984011%2Cp_36%3A1253505011%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A16955317011&rnid=16955315011&s=pc&sprefix=powersuppl%2Caps%2C284&sr=1-2

[obsidian wigeon]

aw felix 2 fast

but do felix's list

[manic cloak]

The heck is a 6750 GRE

[obsidian wigeon]

GRE is the middle child of non xt and xt

so it's like nvidia super cards

[manic cloak]

Ah

Is it even worth?

[obsidian wigeon]

depends on the price

[lyric thistle]

6750 GRU

https://tenor.com/view/computer-internet-minions-hacker-computador-gif-15124942

[obsidian wigeon]

12 gigs version is probs the one to get

289 bucks

[manic cloak]

10gb for 20$ cheaper

But then again

20$ more for 12gb

[obsidian wigeon]

there's big diff in perf tho

10 gigs is the 6700 rebranded

12 6700xt

[mossy venture]

Bad for the price

[frosty roost]

Searching for a budget build, any links?

[cyan ravine]

what's your budget and need

[frosty roost]

@cyan ravine So I game, COD, New games coming out too, budget like 700

@cyan ravine Also, I got a case already

[obsidian wigeon]

which case?

@frosty roost https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QGnLcH

here's a list for ya

[frosty roost]

Thanks

[little osprey]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155708196433?

I might just buy it, what do you think?

To be fair my 1440p needs aren't that demanding

War Thunder and CS2 can't be that intensive?

Unless the $150-$200 extra is worth it for 6800 XT/7800 XT

[cyan ravine]

NITRO IS THE BESTTTT

Best GPU brand ever

I'm 100% simp

[cyan ravine]

for 1440p I would consider it

[little osprey]

The backplate looks awesome it'd just be a little odd with my blackout build

[little osprey]

Alright

[cyan ravine]

there's so many positives about a nitro that frankly it won't matter

tiny things

like separate vrm plate for memory cooling

fans with front disconnects so no need to disassemble gpu

fan and rgb plugs for mobo sync

vbios switch with a 3rd option for switching using their software (no need to open pc)

divot in the pcie slot near the tab for easy removal

swappable fans for clear rgb options

solid anti sag brackets

like

I could simp all day

bloody

2 HDMI AND 2 DP

NO ONE ELSE DOES THIS

ah but maybe not on the 6700XT

the build quality on nitros are superb tho imo

at least from what I've experienced

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDxxFT/phanteks-d30-120-643-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-ph-f120d30_drgb_pwm_bk01_3p

Thoughts on these fans?

[little osprey]

So it wouldn't be a bad choice to grab it?

[little osprey]

Meh, stupid expensive just for the cableless connection

[limber oyster]

Lian li is $5 less

Not that expensive

[cyan ravine]

30$ a fan is terrible 😂

if you like shiny then get shiny

I would never advocate them tho

C12C's are a better package at $4 a piece

[cyan ravine]

not really no, just consider higher tier for 1440p imo

6700xt at 1440p isn't even bad, just, if you plan to use it a long time I'd def think about it

[mossy venture]

$30 on a single fan is insane

[mossy venture]

Yeah this is the best way to put it

[cyan ravine]

the only time I'd spend $30 on a fan is alphacool apex, because they're proven to be just, far better than anything else

you get your money's worth

quieter than any other fan

more powerful

steel chassis

floating motor

[mossy venture]

I'm gonna spend $90 on 2 liquid bearing fans or whatever they're called from corsair

[cyan ravine]

LOL

maglev?

[mossy venture]

Maybe? Idfk

[cyan ravine]

[mossy venture]

The only corsair products I know the names of are like one aio, psus, and cases

[cyan ravine]

they only have like one aio name anyway

H

then you add the i for intelligent

[mossy venture]

H115i is the one I know of

I dont even know if that's just the 240mm one or if it's multiple

[cyan ravine]

I believe it's the 280mm

[mossy venture]

I just don't bother to learn product names when I know they're bad products

Felix

Is a 13900h 4060 16gb ram 1tb ssd laptop at $1100 (hp envy) worth posting to tech deals

[cyan ravine]

kinda?

problem is it's a 13900h not a 7945hs

[mossy venture]

For productivity it seems decent, bc of the cpu

[cyan ravine]

ye but 13900h is a volcano

[mossy venture]

Ah

I think I need to repaste my ideapad

[dim forge]

[mossy venture]

Just installing something small when it's plugged in gets the fans kicked on to max

[cyan ravine]

I mean valaue wise that laptop not too bad

just the caveat of a hot laptop as a result

not really something I'd use as a "lap top"

[mossy venture]

Yeah, I'm assuming it also eats power?

[cyan ravine]

iykwim

ye

[mossy venture]

Lap bottom

Obviously

[lyric thistle]

[cyan ravine]

[little osprey]

I wanna avoid having to upgrade but then again I also gotta accommodate a 1440p monitor

Is there anything on Nvidia's end worth considering for 1440p?

[limber oyster]

Looked into them...too bad they're not argb

[little osprey]

If you're buying them for the aspect of RGB just go with RGB strips

Not worth overpaying for some mediocre fans just for fancy RGB

[cyan ravine]

or

c12c's

literally $4 a fan and they're better than most of all other fans out there

[limber oyster]

Thing is I'm also trying to lessen my cordage...I'm using Alphacool Aurora rise's rn.

[little osprey]

Cable management

[cyan ravine]

yeah but you're paying almost 8x the price to do it

and imo the cable management benefits of those sorts of fans isn't even that amazing

speaking from experience

[jagged ember]

For how much more than normal fans?

[thorn mural]

Ok so i got these thermalright 120mm rgb fans

3 pin argb

but my motherboard (b450 tomahawk max ii) doesn't have 3pin on it

it has this 4 pin RGB thing so how would i go about getting my RGB to work on my fans

it doesnt matter if it syncs to my motherboard i just want the lights to turn on

[minor cypress]

Hey guys I finally got all my computer parts delivered to build my first gaming computer.

I’ve heard of this thing called “Bios” for motherboard. How do I find out if I need to do that once I set up my computer?

This is the motherboard I bought 👇

[warm cave]

Howdy there! I've got a build question.

My current build I have an AIO for my CPU which is a 360mm mount, and it takes up the front of the case. I'm looking at getting a Suprim 4090, and it's radiator would take up the top of the case, that would only leave the little fan at the back of my case as exhaust, would this be okay to do?

[little osprey]

You’ll have to turn on or restart the PC and while it’s booting press the delete key

[plucky timber]

It would not be ideal

[little osprey]

At least that’s the most common BIOS key, it can vary for brand and board

[plucky timber]

It's going to choke the airflow

[little osprey]

May we inquire what case?

[warm cave]

Airflow 4000d

And I thought it might

It's already a tight squeeze

[plucky timber]

you would also have no intake

Considering that you're using high power parts

Not going to be a good time

[warm cave]

I thought about instead going with a 4080, I do a lot of 3D rendering and wanted the extra juice of a 4090. But with the 4080 I won't have to switch out my power supply, and won't have to move my fans around.

That being said, what's the optimal option to do.

[plucky timber]

hmm

That's a dilemma

On one hand the 4090 is legitimately useful for this use case

On the other hand

Power consumption and heat

[warm cave]

The way I see it. If I move up to a 4090. I would probably have to up my PSU, get a bit more ram, and get a new case.

[plucky timber]

or

You could anyways get a 4080 and a 5080 down the line

Probably won't cost you much more

[warm cave]

Yeah, i'd save $700 going with a 4080 over 90.

plus the extra crap to buy

[plucky timber]

yeah

[warm cave]

So.. With that being said, my current 3080 has a bit of a hard time in the case I have now. My radiator takes up the front of my case.

while the 2 fans up top, and one fan at the back is oriented for exauhst, is that also optimal?

[plucky timber]

It's better to have the aio up top

[warm cave]

It doesn't fit 😦

[plucky timber]

For airflow and pump reasons

Oh

That annoying

[warm cave]

It is.

It barely fit in the front. I had to throw the fans in the front of the radiator to be able to fit it in there.

[plucky timber]

I used to have a pc with radiator in front

I got a new case and rearranged the radiator

Very noticeable temperature drop

[warm cave]

Hmm.. Maybe 4080+ new case. MAn I didn't wanna put crap into a new case, lol.

[plucky timber]

At least for the GPU

[vague oracle]

His intake and exhaust would be fine

Both parts would be on radiators too, not a big deal

[warm cave]

That's my problem. When I'm knee deep in UE it just puts off some heat and them fans be SPINNING

[plucky timber]

There's also the motherboard vrms

[vague oracle]

Basically a custom loop setup

[plucky timber]

They would also need cooling

[vague oracle]

Meh not really

I’ve got intake on all of my rads and my temps are fine

[vague oracle]

What’s your power supply?

[plucky timber]

to be fair most of the really hot components would be liquid cooled

[warm cave]

850w

[plucky timber]

So that does help a bit with internal case temperature

[vague oracle]

What model?

[warm cave]

uhhhhh

UHHH

Hold up

[vague oracle]

If the model is good, it’ll handle a 4090 fine

And what CPU?

[warm cave]

Rm850x

I9-13900k

[plucky timber]

Yeah that is a solid psu

[vague oracle]

You’ll be fine ngl

[warm cave]

It wouldn't be adventageous to switch to 1000w?

[vague oracle]

I’m assuming you’re not overclocking right?

[warm cave]

I'm not doing any over-clocking

Naw

No need

[vague oracle]

You could but it’s not necessary

[plucky timber]

The headroom would be nice but

you don't need it

Unless you want to use the 4090 and the 3080 together

[warm cave]

Just wanna make my work faster.

[vague oracle]

I’m running my 13900k and 4090 off of a 1000w but stock I’ve never seen the 4090 go over 450w, and the 13900k over 350w

[plucky timber]

If your engine supports multi gpu rendering

[vague oracle]

PSU wattage won’t help make it faster

[warm cave]

Naw. But the upgraded gpu will haha

[warm cave]

I've never thought about that. Or looked into it.

[plucky timber]

Multi gpu is actually pretty solid for your kind of workload

[vague oracle]

What’s the workload?

[warm cave]

I was gonna sell my 3080 to a buddy to help recoup the cost of the big money card.

[plucky timber]

3D rendering

[warm cave]

Yeye.

[vague oracle]

And what program?

[warm cave]

Maya, UE, substance, Marvelous designer. A whole lot of gpu intensive software.

Well.

Maya aside of that.

[vague oracle]

NVLink at least for 3090s was mostly used for the extra vram instead of the computing power

Combining a 4090 and 3080 ehhh im not sure if it would help or not

[plucky timber]

Don't they support multi gpu without nvlink?

Or maybe I'm mistaken

I remember something about multi gpu not needing sli

Maybe I'm misremembering things

[warm cave]

Not sure.

[vague oracle]

You can multi GPU but it won’t pool the gpu memory

[warm cave]

But ya, I was gonna sell it to him for $500.

[vague oracle]

Instead it’ll just process it in parallel

[plucky timber]

I see

[warm cave]

I have a 10g LHR 3080

So an upgrade to a 4080 would be a big upgrade as well.

Delicious vram and cudacores.

Idk man. $700 is a big diffence in cards.

[plucky timber]

Usually I'd say go for the 4080 but with your kind of workload the 4090 does pose a legitimate advantage

[warm cave]

It does. Man..I have to do some thinking

So, you're saying that I should be fine with my case and PSU if I went with a 4090?

[plucky timber]

If you don't put another gpu inside

[frigid night]

I'm looking for a build in the $1k range. 12th gen Intel or newer. Nvidia or AMD. Main games that will be played is FF14/WoW and some racing.

[vague oracle]

Yeah

[plucky timber]

FF14 as in final fantasy?

lol i could max that out with a 3070 mobile

Should not be too hard

[frigid night]

Yep. I was thinking 3060, but there might be something else out there for price/perf. I haven't kept up with prices for a long while now.

[plucky timber]

You may be able to go under 1K

[frigid night]

I was also thinking a 12400f, but idk which mb to get

[frigid night]

Still want high fps in those games.

[plucky timber]

With 3060 level performance

But yeah you can scale it up a bit

With 1K

[vague oracle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XKVwYN

[frigid night]

Under 1k would be nice as long as the guy can get good fps in watery areas. That's his main concern.

[vague oracle]

I slapped this together

[plucky timber]

There you go

[vague oracle]

If used GPU then you can get a 6800xt in there

[frigid night]

Oh awesome.

[vague oracle]

Wait did it have to be an intel cpu?

[mossy venture]

That other list is good but id change it up a bit https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C8DqHG

Can also do https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3jd9Cd

[little osprey]

@mossy venture you suggested me a monitor but what’s your thoughts on this? https://www.gamestop.com/pc-gaming/monitors/pc/products/msi-27-in-optix-mag274r2-fhd-1920x1080-165hz-gaming-monitor-optixmag274r2/328256.html

[mossy venture]

Good for the price, 1080p at 27" isn't the best

Will see pixels unless you have pretty bad eyes or sit pretty far from the monitor

[lyric thistle]

Nice for further away

Just imagine a 22" one closer, and then push the 27" back

[south cliff]

Is 1440p for 32 inch fine? Just wondering because that’s what I got

[strong raft]

Well Similar ppi to 1080p on a 24" afaik, so not bad at all

[mossy venture]

Yeah, 1440p is great for 27-32"

34" is fine with 1440p too, but that's UW

And yeah what chillin said

[teal dome]

thats a good price ngl

ips with 165hz

[mossy venture]

Yeah but 27" 1080p

I'd rather this https://www.newegg.com/account/referral/3HPLNC?v=pdp-_-USA-_-24-160-515-_--_-US231001-_-0-_-N82E16824160515-_-&n=c13b87dcfe21566da78c88300c508c86

[teal dome]

wish it was there when i bought my monitor lmao

[mossy venture]

Yeah it was $110 or $120 when you did

[frigid night]

The PSU in this list only comes with 2 PCIe cables. Both can daisy chain, but figured it'd be worth mentioning.

[little osprey]

If I was sitting in a chair very close

It wouldn’t be ideal?

It’s a $230 monitor for $95

165HZ 27’

[mossy venture]

Just bc msrp is $230 doesn't mean it's worth anywhere near that

The monitor I linked, the aoc one is just as good if not better and 24"

But if you want the extra screen space that one isn't necessarily bad

[south cliff]

Is it still worth to get the valve index over the oculus quest 3 they go for around the same price if I get a used index?

[cyan ravine]

Quest 3 looks amazing

Hard to say no to it at the right price

[south cliff]

What better about it than the quest 2

[mossy venture]

If I remember right literally everything

A large jump in perf, more comfortable, I think they balanced it better and there's less weight on your face? Better tracking

[south cliff]

My quest 2 looks horrible in games only time it looks good is when I connect it to my pc

Like in blade and sourcery

It’s horrible looking on the standalone

I thought I saw something like 50 percent more pixels

[cyan ravine]

Eh

It's not that bad

<owns quest 2

You get a little screen door but hey it's not gonna have crazy assets

The difference is a mobile phone chip vs a full desktop

But the quest 3 adds more pixels so less chance of screen door and better ergonomics

Those were the two things I noticed

I just don't use vr enough to consider quest 3

Will say if you haven't already, consider the meta fiberoptic cable

It's kinda worth it

Expensive, but a good bloody cable

[south cliff]

I don’t get screen door effect when I turn there is just like a black line for a quick second till it loads in

Like a big one to

[cyan ravine]

[south cliff]

That covers like 1/4 of the screen

Until it loads the stuff in

[cyan ravine]

I've not really noticed anything like that

[south cliff]

It’s happened ever since I got my switch

I guess I just got a bad one

[cyan ravine]

Sounds more like a render issue than a hardware issue

Unless you have dead vram somewhere in the mix

[south cliff]

Yeah could resetting the switch help?

[cyan ravine]

Switch?

How's the nintendo switch related

[south cliff]

Bro I’m stupid

Oculus

It’s late

Brain is not braining

[cyan ravine]

Oh all good

So when you say switch you mean oculus ye

[south cliff]

Ye

[cyan ravine]

Hmmmm

I feel like there'd be a lot of documentation on this

Lemme google rq

Hmm

Maybe try setting the render resolution lower

If not, do a ddu of the amd card

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[cyan ravine]

Then reinstall to 23.10.x

Save things before you do it

[south cliff]

No like on my oculus

[cyan ravine]

It's happening on pc link ye?

[south cliff]

Standalone

[cyan ravine]

Ah

[south cliff]

No

[cyan ravine]

Do you turn down the res standalone?

[south cliff]

Yea

It’s at recommended

And 90hz

[cyan ravine]

Ah

Hmm

Someone said it's fps related

Which is...

Useful

I suppose there's validity in that statement tho cos you run render of what's in front but the chip can't keep up with fast turns

Maybe what you actually want is a PSVR2

Foviated rendering or whatever it's called

Foveated I was close

Someone said to change the position of the lenses

It might compensate? Idk

Oo ok

@south cliff can you enable like, any motion smoothing settings

Apparently compensates if you've got it

Sorry I'd check myself but I'm not near the Q2 rn

[limber oyster]

Anyone have any 32GB ddr4 laptop ram recommendations

[lyric thistle]

The ones that go into the lqptop

[limber oyster]

I meant brand wise

[lyric thistle]

The ones from the companies

[limber oyster]

...

[potent portal]

Specs don't matter much on laptops, they usually run jedec anyway. Just get the cheapest.

[obsidian wigeon]

but do match the speed they run

like if laptop uses 3200

get 3200

[mossy venture]

this is fine https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2x16GB-Laptop-Memory-CT2K16G4SFRA32A/dp/B08C4X9VR5/ref=sr_1_3?crid=OOT94L7PLXFI&keywords=laptop+32gb+2x16&qid=1698067136&sprefix=laptop+32gb+2x16%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-3

[lethal tapir]

How many rgb cables can I stack on the same input

5?

12?

[mossy venture]

determine voltage of the port and voltage of what's being plugged in

[lethal tapir]

I'll hafta look at the mobo manual later but I think it's 5v/3a

[earnest olive]

amperage

better avoid mismatching voltages lol

[restive halo]

What do you guys use to check temps?

[lethal tapir]

Laser temp gun

I had my icue ram stick change colors based on the mobo utility readout

[restive halo]

Heard

Also getting a blinking red light here

[lethal tapir]

That's probably just the "I'm thinking" light on the front of every case

Check the manual tho

[cyan ravine]

Looks good

[restive halo]

Ram is not running full

https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb/p/N82E16820331845?

It's running at 4800 should be at 6000 no?

[mossy venture]

Gotta enable expo/xmp

[cyan ravine]

Yes it should

[restive halo]

Damn I thought I did lol. Let me recheck it

Done

Ok just need to check Temps and it's ready to drop off

[quick kite]

Looking for some help here, not sure what the best step is here, looking to grab some upgrades to my computer at black Friday, 2 main ideas I have. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YR2bKX this is my current computer. I want to either upgrade my processor or graphics card. I know I'm towards the end of the generation I'm using of amd CPUs and will likely need a new mobo and ddr5 ram, on the other hand I was thinking of instead grabbing an rx 7800xt as I'm thinking of heading down the red route instead of Nvidia. Any thoughts?

[mossy venture]

Cpu is fine, though I'd aim higher than a 7800xt coming from a 3060 ti

[quick kite]

Based on the toms hardware hierarchy chart it seems like it'd be a very large jump for me?

[mossy venture]

Itd be around 30-40%, but it just wouldn't really be worth the money imo

7800xt is similar to a 3080

It's obviously your choice, it's your pc and your money

[quick kite]

Ok, depending on pricing I might be able to try and get a 7900xt

[mossy venture]

7900xt has dropped as low as $730

Or maybe it was 720

Not sure

[quick kite]

Don't think I wanna go for the latest from Nvidia, can't justify the pricing difference between them

[mossy venture]

Oh also, 1080p or 1440p?

[quick kite]

1440p

Sorry should've mentioned that

[mossy venture]

Yeah nvidia pricing is terrible this gen

The 3080 cost $700 and was within 10% of the 3090. The 4080 costs $1200 and is 20-25% worse than 4090

[quick kite]

Crazy

Is there any brand you'd recommend for amd GPU, never really shopped for one so I'm not sure what would be best. I absolutely love the ASRock 7900xt and the sapphire 7800xt, the all black scifi look is incredible

[mossy venture]

Anything is fine really, there's some that are better than others but just the cheapest when you buy is fine

Same holds up for every single card this gen, with how overbuilt they are. Last gen you'd tend to want to avoid mech 2x on amd and ventus on nvidia, with a few other models not being great

But generally especially on amd it's doesn't matter much

Also btw, 7900xt>3090

[quick kite]

https://www.newegg.com/account/referral/JBART9?v=pdp-_-USA-_-14-202-437-_--_-US231001-_-0-_-N82E16814202437-_-sapphire-radeon-rx-7800-xt-21330-01-20g&n=8f4e4090eaad3dba527b540f4201b319

Love this design personally

[mossy venture]

7900xt pricing kinda sucks rn though

$800 is expensive for it

[quick kite]

I see that

[quick kite]

Many going for around 900+

For the 7900xt

[mossy venture]

4070 ti is actually cheaper

$760

Which makes it a pretty viable choice rn

Sorry 770

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#X=0,80000

But prices will change a lot by the time you're buying most likely

If you found a cheap 7800xt or 6800xt that'd be fine too, just at $500 not a worthwhile jump from 3060 ti

[quick kite]

Awesome thank you, glad to hear my processor isn't obsolete yet with the new gen gpus

Was worried about having to upgrade pretty much everything

[mossy venture]

Oh nah 5800x is still plenty capable

I wonder how it does with a 4090 at 4k

It can't be that bad

Summoning @cyan ravine

[quick kite]

That I'd like to see lol

[mossy venture]

With 4k being very gpu focused, it might not be terrible

5800x3d and 4090 at 4k isn't bad at all

[cyan ravine]

What going on

[mossy venture]

5800x and 4090 at 4k

How bad

Just for curiosities sake, no one's building that

[cyan ravine]

Slight bottleneck

I'd say between about

10-20%

Maybe less

[mossy venture]

That's about what I figured lol, was gonna say 15%

[cyan ravine]

20 is extreme

[mossy venture]

Ty

[quick kite]

Interesting

[cyan ravine]

Np

[cyan ravine]

4090 is just that insane

[mossy venture]

At 1440p I wouldnt go for anything over a 7900xt though idt

[cyan ravine]

Yeah 7900xt is solid

[mossy venture]

Or 4070 ti

[quick kite]

Yeah seems to not be worth it passed that

Not much increase if any

[mossy venture]

(Or 3090/ti/3080 12gb/ti Or 6950xt, theyre all very similar in performance)

[cyan ravine]

The problem is beyond a point you start to lose the full benefit of the gain, as the cpu holds it all back

4090 would still be faster, but by a very small amount due to the bottleneck

[mossy venture]

Used 6950xt for $400-450 would be a great option

[cyan ravine]

Far under the actual performance mark

[mossy venture]

Or 6900xt

[quick kite]

Felix what do you think, should I go for a 7800xt or 7900xt, coming from a 3060ti at 1440p. I was looking at the 7800xt cause I think price to performance wise it's a great deal but bacca suggested I wait to see how pricing for the 7900xt looks

[mossy venture]

There's also 3080 refurbs for $400 or so, which is another good option

[cyan ravine]

Is this with a 5800x?

[mossy venture]

Yeah

Already owned

[quick kite]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

Either or, both would be good at 1440p imo

[mossy venture]

Existing build up here

[cyan ravine]

7900xt kinda a bit better due to the performance jump over 3060 ti

[mossy venture]

I just don't think the 7800xt is that much better over 3060 ti to warrant $500

[quick kite]

But is the 7900xt worth the extra 300-400$

[cyan ravine]

Uh, is bq ok?

[mossy venture]

It's c tier

[cyan ravine]

Maybe new psu

[quick kite]

I'm getting a new psu

[cyan ravine]

Kinda is yeah

[mossy venture]

It doesnt die, but it has issues with transients

[quick kite]

That's in progress

[cyan ravine]

It was 700 not too long ago

Near 715$, the 7900xt is amazing value

[mossy venture]

Want some reccs? There's psus capable of handling a 4090 for $80-100

[quick kite]

Sure

[mossy venture]

And yeah, if 7900xt drops on black Friday that's the only reason I'd consider it

[quick kite]

I was looking at one from Corsair 850w gold for about 115$

[mossy venture]

Like $700 or thereabouts

[cyan ravine]

Sounds like rme

[mossy venture]

Corsair does have some good psus but they tend to be pretty expensive for what they are

[quick kite]

Seasonic was likely my next choice

What's your recommendation

[cyan ravine]

Seasonic is a huge pass rn

[mossy venture]

A tier 850w for $100 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7pmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-1

[cyan ravine]

Nothing worth the seasonic price

[quick kite]

Really

[cyan ravine]

Except in like, germany

[earnest olive]

psus are like the one segment where corsair has products that compete on value lol

[cyan ravine]

Yeah man

[mossy venture]

Brand doesn't really matter much, it's model thats important

[mossy venture]

Uk it's reasonably priced too, the focus gold

[cyan ravine]

Yeah brand is pointless, seasonic just resells like all the others

UK too? I knew it was gx

[earnest olive]

isn't seasonic an actual oem?

[stoic island]

For most of their PSUs they make their own

[earnest olive]

that's what I thought

[cyan ravine]

Yeah they do resell

Sorry it's 4am

[earnest olive]

seasonic also oems for other brands as well I think

[stoic island]

The crappy units like s12iii are resold of other brands

[quick kite]

Thank you

[earnest olive]

mmmm crispy s12iii

[mossy venture]

And if you don't want to deal with a mail in rebate, this is also just as good as the rme https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CFbCmG/adata-xpg-core-reactor-850-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactor850g-bkcus

[cyan ravine]

They oem for stuff like asus

[quick kite]

This discord is much nicer than most computer discords I've been in lmao

[mossy venture]

Wait guys

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7v3mP6/seasonic-focus-gx-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gx-850

[earnest olive]

I love the smell of burning PCs in the morning

[mossy venture]

$105 focus gold 850

[stoic island]

Yea but not common now afaik

[cyan ravine]

That's kinda worth tbh, but depends what's in the 90$ range

[mossy venture]

Seasonic focus gold is actually a viable option rn, if you would rather it

[quick kite]

I had one legit tell me I should just throw my whole computer in the trash and start over (same exact build as above)

[earnest olive]

lol what

[mossy venture]

Lol sounds about right

[earnest olive]

that's a pretty nice computer you got there I don't see what there is to throw away 💀

[mossy venture]

It's expensive for what it is, and I'd have spent the money differently, but that doesn't make it bad

[cyan ravine]

Could I have it

[quick kite]

I had a screenshot of the message, I'd have to dig for it lol

[earnest olive]

yeah feel free to throw it away into my mailbox

[mossy venture]

Dyk what discord that was?

Sounds like ltt

[earnest olive]

no need, we've all seen the type

[quick kite]

It was techsource

[cyan ravine]

LOL

[quick kite]

Yup

[earnest olive]

people that think hardware is instantly obsolete as soon as it's no longer current gen

[mossy venture]

Mm yeah sounds about right

[earnest olive]

techsource? never heard of it

[mossy venture]

3090 old tech

Garbage

[cyan ravine]

Most pc discords are super judgemental, we've really lost our fangs for that as a discord ourselves

Tho we aren't totally harmless

[quick kite]

Most of this I've gotten on sale or resellers, the kraken cooler I only paid 50$ for

[earnest olive]

13900KS made obsolete by 14900K

[mossy venture]

It's like a mix of ltt and corsair disc, but worse

[quick kite]

Much worse

[mossy venture]

Oh nice

[cyan ravine]

A meme YT channel almost on par with framechasets

[quick kite]

Yup was brand new sealed in box too, no issues

[earnest olive]

I looked at the stock all core turbo of the 14900K and... it's the same as what I can run on my 13700K

what a fantastic meme

[mossy venture]

Yeah most of us aren't fans of corsair or nzxt products for the most part because of how bad value they are, but if you get them on sales like that that's great

(Corsair cases and psus are great a lot of the time though)

[earnest olive]

I can also run my e-cores at the same speed as the stock 14900K lol

just got less of them

too bad my 13700K is obsolete now

[quick kite]

I had a Corsair case, went for the hyte y60 just cause I think it's neat and it has a lot more cable management space

[cyan ravine]

14650k

[mossy venture]

12900k made obsolete by 13100

[vague oracle]

I should overclock my 13900k for daily

[earnest olive]

it's last gen so it's ewaste that can't even run games anymore

my 4080 is about to become obsolete ewaste when the 4080 super 20gb comes out

[vague oracle]

It’s ewaste, send it to me

[earnest olive]

done

[vague oracle]

I’m at my doorstep, where is it?

[mossy venture]

Both are trash when the 5050 4gb comes out

[quick kite]

Only regret with the build really is not waiting for GPU prices to drop before upgrading from my 2060 super.. that and the ram isn't actually 3800mghz as advertised, only runs at 3600

[earnest olive]

sending it to you pre delidded with a hammer

[mossy venture]

Or the 8500xt

[earnest olive]

3800 xmp?

[vague oracle]

That exists?

[cyan ravine]

While he's at it can your doordash your pc too cos it's ewaste

[earnest olive]

probably can run 3800 just fine but your imc/board doesn't like it

[mossy venture]

It exists just not commonly

[quick kite]

Overpaid by a lot for the 3060ti cause I was impatient

[stoic island]

3866 maybe?

[earnest olive]

xmp is never guaranteed to work

[mossy venture]

I basically paid like $950 for my 3060 ti

[earnest olive]

and a lot of zen 3 chips don't cooperate with 3800

especially without manual tuning

[vague oracle]

You’re not alone, I paid 1.4k for a 6800xt and 1.3k for a 3080 12gb

[cyan ravine]

3800 is a fclk hole

[mossy venture]

It did pay itself back because I mined on it though

[quick kite]

Mine was around 500 I think, got it at microcenter

[mossy venture]

That's not even a bad price tho

[cyan ravine]

3733 or 3866 likely work on a 5800x with a little patience and tuning

[quick kite]

MSI ventus was the only one they had unfortunately

[mossy venture]

Above msrp yeah, but still a pretty solid price for the pandemic

[cyan ravine]

3733 is basically guaranteed to work

[mossy venture]

At one point they were going for what, $1300?

[earnest olive]

lol I remember paying 750-800 for 5700xts

[mossy venture]

I paid $210 for a 1650

I'm a failure

[earnest olive]

asrock a320m-hdv: allow me to introduce myself

[quick kite]

Yeah but seeing prices right now definitely feels bad lol

[mossy venture]

Understandable

[earnest olive]

I was gonna say seeing new stuff come out will always make you feel bad about your current pc

[mossy venture]

I want to upgrade my gpu, but first off I'm broke and second I have absolutely no need to whatsoever

[earnest olive]

then I remembered that the 4060ti and 4060 exist

so nvm

3060/3060ti owners laughing

[mossy venture]

4060 ti is a 3060 ti with the 3 crossed out and a 4 written above it

[quick kite]

That's the boat I'm in, ofk if I need to upgrade but I definitely have some performance issues running some new games which is why I want to

[earnest olive]

I wanna see benchmarks of 4060ti vs 3060ti g6x

[little osprey]

240mm Frozen Notte overkill for 3600X?

[quick kite]

Running 1440p high or ultra settings normally

[earnest olive]

what's your goal for it

[mossy venture]

I don't even have performance issues, I play valorant and minecraft 99% of the time

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Also not a good match in general for amd

[mossy venture]

A stock cooler is more than enough for it

[earnest olive]

ask yourself what you're doing before you get a cooler for your cpu that's worth almost as much as the cpu

[quick kite]

I don't play many new games, I do like to check out some new titles for the crazy cool graphics

[mossy venture]

A 214xt would probably keep it at what, 50° gaming?

[earnest olive]

probably

[little osprey]

Didn't get a stock cooler with the one I bought

[mossy venture]

I want a new gpu so I can do more timespy

[earnest olive]

stock cooler keeps 3600x cool enough in prime95

[mossy venture]

But for that I should just steal the 5700xt I bought for my partners build and toss it in mine, and see what I can do w that

[little osprey]

But I have the AIO laying around with no use so I either use it for benching or toss it in the rig to save money

[earnest olive]

lol come over and pick one up I got like 8 amd stock coolers lying around

[mossy venture]

Oh then just throw it on the 3600x

If you already own it why not

[little osprey]

Bought a 3600X for a rig I'm putting together for someone and it didn't come with a stock cooler

And the only cooler I have laying around is an AIO

[earnest olive]

you ever just juggle amd stock coolers for fun

[mossy venture]

I like to try skipping them on a lake

[quick kite]

I bet that works well

[mossy venture]

Also now that I have a job again once I have some money saved I think I might start building pcs to sell them

Which btw sips, im not working for geek squad but I am working at best buy

[earnest olive]

play jenga with stock coolers

I got 3 intel stock coolers too

kinda miss my old xeon with the copper intel cooler

that thing was funny

running prime95 at 65c on an intel stock cooler

woooo

[earnest olive]

best buy employee discounts 😳

[little osprey]

Yeah I could just half ass a PC today with a P300A, RGB PNY DDR4, 240mm AIO, and some case fans

[earnest olive]

I have a friend that works at best buy and every time he needs help with a part list I have to filter it by best buy only lol

[mossy venture]

Yeah im actually curious about this

[earnest olive]

get ready to buy some corsair ram and samsung ssds

lol

[mossy venture]

I want to replace mine and my partners side monitors anyways, I might see what cheap options they have

I will never buy corsair ram I refuse

[earnest olive]

even used?

[mossy venture]

I'll spend the extra $10-20 to avoid it

Used maybe

And if it's ddr5 sure

[earnest olive]

I bought a few used corsair ram kits

[mossy venture]

So I'll never buy corsair ddr4*

[earnest olive]

ddr4

I think ddr5 is more worth avoiding than ddr4 no?

doesn’t corsair pull some locked pmic shenanigans on their ddr5

[mossy venture]

Oh if they do I haven't heard of it, but I wouldn't put it past them

Not that I know what pmic is. I'm assuming a setting for tuning

[earnest olive]

you know how the voltage stuff is on the memory modules for ddr5

that’s the pmic basically

[mossy venture]

Ah

[earnest olive]

I think corsair modules are locked to like 1.35 or 1.4V

[mossy venture]

So basically a lot less ram tuning headroom?

[earnest olive]

@cyan ravine can you confirm

[cyan ravine]

?

[earnest olive]

corsair pmic bad?

thank you smart man

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah

On corsair ddr5

[earnest olive]

confirmed corsair pmic bad

[cyan ravine]

Iirc if the sku has a C not an X in it

Pmic locked

[earnest olive]

I think it’s only tCL anyways? so it’s not the end of the world

but it’s still annoying lol

[cyan ravine]

Locked 1.415 or 1.435

[earnest olive]

especially when you are paying more for it than the competition

[cyan ravine]

I mean it's more like the whole thing is just a voltage Rubik's cube

[earnest olive]

does anything besides tCL scale with voltage on H16 M/A?

[restive halo]

It says it's running at 40' but smells hot and feels warm

[earnest olive]

damn, your pc is running at 40 feet?

that’s crazy

[restive halo]

😑

[cyan ravine]

Having less freedom to choose your ram vdd or vddq is annoying af especially with intel scaling

[restive halo]

[earnest olive]

oof vddq too huh

[cyan ravine]

Iirc yes

Pmic lock is both voltages

[earnest olive]

ok yeah nvm that’s probably a bigger problem than just tCL scaling

[restive halo]

Is there a better test I can run

[earnest olive]

for what

thermals?

[restive halo]

Yeah.

[cyan ravine]

Occt is solid

[restive halo]

Again says running 40 degrees but seems hot