building-and-recc-chat

[static parcel]

Alr

[dusky hearth]

Older ones may have a switch

[static parcel]

Wouldn’t it ruin the whole white

Theme

Cause it’s black

[potent portal]

If you're bringing a monitor over the pond then you might need to switch that power cord too

[static parcel]

Oh nah

I got one here

Just the pc I’m building in the us most likely

[mossy venture]

White builds with a black gpu can look really nice, it's all personal preference

You can also take the gpu shroud off and paint it yourself

[static parcel]

👀

For uk https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YJcxsh

Alr gonna save this

[potent portal]

Good old plasti-dip does the trick for me

[dusky hearth]

Paint it black

[static parcel]

💀

[dusky hearth]

Rolling stones

[static parcel]

Any benchmark videos for these specs

[potent portal]

I wanna see the sun blotted out from the sky

[static parcel]

Also anyone know any good gaming headphones like good and mic 2

New set up

May aswell

[dusky hearth]

Just search r5 7600 rx7800xt

Might not have the exact specs

[static parcel]

Alr

[dusky hearth]

E.g. ram, but there should be at least 1 with the cpu and gpu

[lyric thistle]

Eclipse

[dry tinsel]

the light around in an eclipse is so pretty

the sky lights up differently than any other time

[serene onyx]

Guys, do you think the kedier fish tank cases are any good>

?

Ive been checking them out and ngl they look hella cool, but idk if there good or not

Too good to be true maybe?

[dusky hearth]

They cost more than the o11

At least in my region

[serene onyx]

oh

damn

I just want to know if the kedier fish tank cases are worth it

cause 99$ for a fish tank case with like 5 fans, idk sounds too good ot be true

[dusky hearth]

How much does the o11 cost for you

Also tbh it probably includes very cheap fans

Most cases that include fans tend to have some pretty bottom of barrel

The Fractal torrent includes good fans but they aren't really standard size

[serene onyx]

130$

[dusky hearth]

Ah

[serene onyx]

You're right

[primal linden]

is 750w good enough for a rx 6800

[dusky hearth]

Yeah

[primal linden]

ok

[round cloud]

It’s beginning to materialize

[primal linden]

It’s all coming together

[round cloud]

Oh yeah

Thanks to the ppl in here that answered my questions 🙏 everything should be here before next weekend.

[leaden mauve]

computer

[primal linden]

yes

[leaden mauve]

wait dude you're missing something

there you go

[dusky hearth]

Where's the amogus

[primal linden]

We the people

uhh

ASUS AP201 PRIME

My best speech in years

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmyhere-sussy-gif-26955632

[primal linden]

Memes in build chat?!?!

[primal linden]

let me see how I can relate this to builds

uhh

[primal linden]

The gpu doesn’t care

[primal linden]

lemme make this build related

HMMMM

[leaden mauve]

i can

[leaden mauve]

i love my x670ee strix i got for 50 bucks

[primal linden]

How

[leaden mauve]

broken ebay board > RMA > free open box board sent

[primal linden]

ok

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-legion-gx-gold-pro-sf-750p14xe-750w/p/1HU-024C-00032?Item=9SIAMNPC9T1160&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAMNPC9T1160-_-10012023 good psu?

[mossy venture]

Not bad, but evga g5 750 is same price and better

[primal linden]

ok spooky bacca

[upper condor]

Having some weird issues. Replaced my 7700X with a 7800X3D, reinstalled windows drivers etc all was working. Started working back on my PBO , was fine until just now. PC will boot, DRAM light is red then off red than off until eventually PC shuts down

Tried to clear CMOS using the pins but it doesn’t seem to have helped at all

[upper condor]

More of a few quick switches between CPU and DRAM ending on DRAM

[little osprey]

Best 240 HZ monitor in the market? with a good budget?

[stoic island]

Clear cmos using battery method in the mean time

[stoic island]

Define what you mean by a good budget, 200$? 300$? 400$? And what resolution?

[little osprey]

200 1440p

[upper condor]

Can’t remove it from my mobo, don’t know why

It’s really jammed in there IG

I used the jumpers connected right to the battery and problem persists

[stoic island]

1440p240hz starts at around 300-400$ so you'll have to look for used

[stoic island]

like you can't get the flap thing to pop it out?

Battery method is more reliable than jumper, it's just a sanity check

[upper condor]

I can’t see the flap is the thing

Not sure if it broke off or what

Got it

It seems like…not totally seated

Like it’s loose

I can just kinda spin it around for some reason

Should I get a new battery or what?

[stoic island]

that's really weird

if you have an extra one anywhere I'd replace it

[upper condor]

Yeah I do and I put it in

I’ll wait like 10 minutes and see if it changes

[stoic island]

for reseting cmos? take it out and unplug from wall

[upper condor]

Oh yeah I already did that I mean like to give it time to boot

The first time I reset with jumpers power was off but not unplugged 😨

But the issue existed before that so

[little osprey]

Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

what about 165hz

[stoic island]

about your only option
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824281243

[dusky hearth]

?

[round cloud]

Nvm

[upper condor]

@stoic island new battery didn’t help at all

[stoic island]

rip

[mossy venture]

Best option for 1440p 240hz rn https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6WBzK8/lg-ultragear-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-27gr83q-b

$349

[upper condor]

anything i can do? or anyone/where i can go to for more help?

[stoic island]

can't think of anything rn

[upper condor]

Randomly started working lol

[little osprey]

Na man budget is $200

You got 165 hz?

[cyan ravine]

Pretty much what was posted here and you have just over 5 hours left to buy it

1440p 144+ for good screens is generally 230+

A1A is decent for $200

[potent portal]

This is the only $200 1440p high refresh monitor I know of, and I'm pretty sure it's garbage. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BycgXL/asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aqa1a-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-tuf-gaming-vg27aqa1a

[potent portal]

VA tho 🤢

[stoic island]

hence decent, not good lol

[potent portal]

$230 really is where you want to start your 1440p budget

If you could stretch that extra $30 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JPrYcf/gigabyte-g27q-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-g27q

[cyan ravine]

Ye then you get to G27Q or Omen 27qs

And arguably excellent panels

[little osprey]

all good

[mossy venture]

I think qs is the 240hz normally $350+ one

[mossy venture]

https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-Monitor-FreeSync-Premium-E275B-QPD168/dp/B097G21FHC/ref=mp_s_a_1_5? This isn't bad for the price

[storm arrow]

The beast has arrived

Do you remove the sticker on the ssd

[cyan ravine]

No

[storm arrow]

Okay so just screw the plate right on top

[cyan ravine]

Yes, make sure it's inserted properly

https://youtu.be/BL4DCEp7blY?si=1FJCjAI4O5Ps2mKm

This should tell you pretty much everything you need to know

[primal linden]

Anybody know any budget 1tb m.2 ssd’s

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JtxRsY/msi-spatium-m371-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-30-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-spatium-m371-1tb

[primal linden]

ok

[cyan ravine]

M450 also has had sales for 25

But not rn

[primal linden]

Sadly

[cyan ravine]

If you wait a week tho then maybe?

[potent portal]

Yeah prime deal days oct 10-11 I think it was

[primal linden]

yeah im probably gonna try to buy the parts around those dates

fanstastech and prime at same time

[potent portal]

Ask again around that time then

[primal linden]

Ok

[potent portal]

Deals will change daily at this point, storage is getting so cheap it's crazy

[little osprey]

good suggestion

[round cloud]

Can I use my dell wd19 docking station with my gaming rig 🤔

Trying to figure out how to readily swap between work and game PCs

Need to connect to 7800xt based system with mini dp and retain the data functionality if possible

[potent portal]

KVM usually does the trick

[dusky hearth]

the glorious https://www.store.level1techs.com/products/p/14-kvm-switch-triple-monitor-2computer-pne46-fxlmw

[round cloud]

Damn, that’s expensive. But if it does everything it looks like it does, that’s pretty cool.

[dusky hearth]

it's the only DP switch that can even support multi-monitor switching in existence basically

[potent portal]

Yep lvl1techs makes the best KVM I know

Most others you have to sacrifice a LOT, like limited resolutions and refresh rates.

4k120 over KVM? Unheard of on any others

[round cloud]

Yea I just have to unplug and plug stuff in. In a temporary living situation with not a ton of room atm

Kind of a pita tbh

Imma have to get creative

[manic cloak]

5600G sucks right? especially for 75$ or?

• 5600/x is really high rn 😭

[mossy venture]

$75 is nice for it if you need the igpu

Tbh even if you don't need it it's ntb

[manic cloak]

nah

that like 400$ fbm build I had

needs a cpu and gpu

[mossy venture]

Ah

It'd be fine for that

[manic cloak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Ah

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QzG8Jy

[mossy venture]

Or 4500 for $50 off tiktok shop

[manic cloak]

now it's w/o the 6700xt deal so

[mossy venture]

Maybe a bit cheaper

[manic cloak]

oh my

apparently active local seller

@mossy venture opinions?

or maybe brand new 7800xt

[mossy venture]

I find the box with gpus in the background a bit sus

[obsidian wigeon]

same

[dusky hearth]

Gpus stacked in a box with no protection

Seems safe

[plucky timber]

miner alert

minings don't kill gpus

miner kills gpus

hurts to think how many gpus died due to miner incompetence

[dusky hearth]

How many miners have a tech background

On one hand they need to know how to set it up

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QvQyKX

Finalized the list for my itx. Going to microcenter tomorrow to look at cases

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/fireplace-fire-burn-flame-gif-14161404

[leaden mauve]

its just a battery, its fine

[lyric thistle]

If the incompetence is miner, the damage must not be that bad

[plucky timber]

ahahahhahahahahaha

It is that bad

[nova apex]

any good coolers that will fit my b660 matx board, intel 12400f i5… if can get under 50$ (with still good quality) that will be great

just not sure what to look up

https://a.co/d/0jqDV4r

is this one good?

[dusky hearth]

there are better value now
but imo if your budget is only $50, just use the stock cooler, it's good enough

actually

wait it's usd i asssume

you can get a TR peerless assassin se for like 30

[cyan ravine]

For 12400

Id-cooling se 214xt / 224xt

Almost always $20 and plenty good

There are also a number of notable thermalright options

For $17 - $19

[dusky hearth]

i feel like the stock cooler is good enough for a 12400f tbh

[cyan ravine]

It is but it's noisy

[dusky hearth]

esp with gaming since you won't be fully loading your cpu

[nova apex]

stock cooler came with one blade broken so u don’t want to be using it for long

[dusky hearth]

damn

i want to see lmao

[dusky hearth]

did it just like

randomly happen

lmfao

[nova apex]

nono

came like that

[dusky hearth]

ah

[nova apex]

got it from box and the blade fell out

[dusky hearth]

have you fixed the cable management yet

is this an old image lmao

[nova apex]

pic from saturday

cable management not fixed

[dusky hearth]

💀

[nova apex]

when new cooler comes i’ll fix

[dusky hearth]

procrastination

[nova apex]

at its finest

[dusky hearth]

lmfao

[nova apex]

so what cooler?

[dusky hearth]

what felix said

[nova apex]

?

[dusky hearth]

yeah

[nova apex]

bet

[dusky hearth]

the one i recommended is overkill for your chip but is also under your budget

[nova apex]

does felixs come preapplied paste?

which isn’t an issue but i can’t tell

[dusky hearth]

basically all coolers should include paste either preapplied to the coldplate, or in a tube

or sometimes a sauce packet

[cyan ravine]

If it doesn't come with paste take it back until it does

All coolers should come with paste

Lol

[nova apex]

i’d hope anyway

alr ty y’all

[dusky hearth]

unless you buy secondhand

but that's probably a given

[dusky hearth]

me

[cyan ravine]

Head chef of.pastes

[dusky hearth]

how kpx is made

[cyan ravine]

Vince like

lick

Needs more lead

[dusky hearth]

real

[mossy venture]

214xt

[nova apex]

vs this? edit: wait… i kinda just realized 🥸

[lone flame]

#tech-deals sub 900 XTX let’s goooo

[nova apex]

for the bracket, do i really need to unscrew the whole mb from case or is there another way

[dusky hearth]

if your case has an open hole in the back, no

if it doesn't, yes

[nova apex]

can i cut a hole

[dusky hearth]

technically

yes

but you would want to take off the mobo to cut a hole

so that you dont break the mobo

💀

[nova apex]

i can just use like

a knife

i’ll make it work

[dusky hearth]

good luck

💀

[nova apex]

i just don’t wanna go thru rewiring

(am joking bout cutting a hole)

[dusky hearth]

you're gonna have to go through rewiring anyways 💀

[nova apex]

for just one wire yea

i think i do have a hole

[dusky hearth]

it's a little bit more than just one wire

[teal dome]

[nova apex]

i knew that

[dusky hearth]

all your cables need.... a little work

lmfao

[nova apex]

i’m aware, it’s my first build

cut me some slack

[dusky hearth]

dw im just joking (but you should fix it eventually)

[nova apex]

i will when my new cooler comes just cause convenience

and procrastination somewhat

[earnest olive]

well rewiring is pretty easy even if you take the mobo out cause they’ll just be sitting there already routed and positioned so all you need to do is plug them back in

ah, cable management

I mean… cable management is optional

I had pretty poor cable management for my first build and it took me like 3 months to fix it

[dusky hearth]

i will make an ied with the best cable management to ever be seen for it to disappear from the planet in 20 seconds

[cyan ravine]

Cable management is like road works

After a while it becomes endless

Unless you do it perfectly first time

https://tenor.com/view/jeb-kerman-kerbal-3d-ksp-gif-25981608

[earnest olive]

it’s fun when you have a complex build with a ton of cables and bothering to do cable management makes it harder to work on the pc

have a friend that’s selling me a 3 pack of AL120 unifans for cheap to replace my failing side intakes

less cables

[cyan ravine]

AL120 fans are nice

If you like noisy 40-60% pwm

[earnest olive]

couldn’t care less

[cyan ravine]

Alr lol

[earnest olive]

maybe at 100% they’ll begin to rival the air purifier behind it lol

[cyan ravine]

I don't understand why their rpm range bottoms out at 40% tho

[mossy venture]

What's louder, that air purifier or clc stock fans

[cyan ravine]

Got completely turned off when I learned that

[earnest olive]

I actually wonder if setting my current fans to 0% has contributed to the issues they’re having now

[mossy venture]

Clc stock fans are louder than my actual room fan at its highest setting

[earnest olive]

touched the back of one today and it was at quite a high temperature

turned it up to 40% and the temperature went way down

[cyan ravine]

Wtf

[earnest olive]

wonder if the leds are burning out because of high temps

[cyan ravine]

LOL

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/ied-better-call-saul-bomb-your-honor-gif-24668812

[earnest olive]

not directly because of high temps but

I wonder if the higher temps shortened their lifespan

they’ve been running for over 15k hours

but haven’t had any issues with leds on the radiator fans which are always spinning

while I’ve had to replace 4 case fans that spend most of their time at 0%

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/pipe-bomb-so-cool-pipe-bomb-hatsune-miku-gif-3979886170462943769

[earnest olive]

when the case fans are spinning the bottom fan is blowing across the hubs of the side fans and the bottom side fan is blowing across the hub of the bottom fan so I guess they are cooling each other

when logically you’d expect spinning to increase the operating temperature lol

anyways, can’t really complain about a 15k+ hour lifespan

they’ve done their duty

[earnest olive]

is it like… 40% and then 0%? or you can’t turn them off

cause my current fans are 40% and then 0%

[cyan ravine]

40% and 40%

[earnest olive]

but 40% is very low rpm anyways

I see

[cyan ravine]

It's not really

It had an annoying hum

[earnest olive]

I meant on my current fans

[cyan ravine]

Oh my bad

[earnest olive]

40% is like 600 rpm and I can’t hear it even if I try to lol

[earnest olive]

let’s see if it can cover the gpu coil whine lmao

the gpu coil whine is the only sound I can hear coming from my pc over the air purifier

I hate it

[cyan ravine]

I just couldn't get over it. They were so expensive and I didn't need a baseline for a waterloop as big as mine

After that I went to P12's

[earnest olive]

idk how asus is getting worse each generation with coil whine

[cyan ravine]

Now I want B12's

[earnest olive]

how much did you pay for them?

[cyan ravine]

The proper price

[earnest olive]

I’m getting the complete 3 pack for $40 if that helps lol

[cyan ravine]

I thought they'd look nice for an expensive high end rig with the side accents

It's just a gimmick imo now

[cyan ravine]

Tbf the 40 series cards are running much cooler and with quieter fans now

It in that sense is also a little more noticeable with those changes

[earnest olive]

the coil whine is louder than 100% fan speed

[cyan ravine]

Yes

The same on mine

Tho mine isn't sharp it's a flat tone

[earnest olive]

my 3090 strix was also terrible on all 3 psus I tested

oh

mine is an actual whine that changes pitch

it’s terrible

sounds like asus packed a demon in there

[cyan ravine]

Ye I've been there before lmao

I think my eagle did that?

FWEEEEEEE IIIIIIIIIII

[obsidian wigeon]

hah

eagle screeches

[earnest olive]

the only thing I don’t love about this card

it’s so overbuilt and premium feeling in every other way but why did they skimp on this

can I have uhh 0.25 cents of glue or something

[dusky hearth]

💀

tbf

it's usually the smallest details that get overlooked

[cyan ravine]

If you find the problem child you can cover it with a putty to make the sound deafened

[cyan ravine]

On a strix tho?

[dusky hearth]

i mean

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cyan ravine]

Honestly this gen of strix I've never been more disappointed lmao

[earnest olive]

it’s gonna take a lot to cover myself with putty

I have a tuf but yeah my 3090 strix was pretty bad too

[dusky hearth]

fill a swimming pool

[cyan ravine]

Oh tuf mb

[earnest olive]

yeah… all the good used deals are asus

[obsidian wigeon]

asussy

[earnest olive]

sad

[cyan ravine]

Tbh I think the tuf is better

[earnest olive]

I just end up with asus gpu every time

[cyan ravine]

You're not overpaying for asus

[dusky hearth]

[obsidian wigeon]

getting a laptop is worth it for asus fee here tbh

[earnest olive]

I like the double hdmi and the ease of flashing to strix vbios

[dusky hearth]

speaking of tuf, i hate "military grade" marketing

[obsidian wigeon]

1st year accidental damage warranty

[cyan ravine]

Double hdmi is nice

[dusky hearth]

means absolutely nothing

[earnest olive]

just hope I never have to RMA it lmao

[cyan ravine]

It's def meme worthy 💀💀💀

[obsidian wigeon]

im glad i got this tuf lappy

and 2 years international warranty

not like i need that anyway

3 years for strix/zephyrus stuff

[earnest olive]

I’m still happy with it just because of the price

ended up keeping it instead of reselling it as planned

sold the 1660ti to a client instead

[obsidian wigeon]

"tuf" a drop from half a body height messed up the fan bearings

im waiting for mom to be free so i can rma lmao

[earnest olive]

damn

I dropped my gp66 from 1.5m and nothing happened, it was in a backpack though

not sure how much that helped

[obsidian wigeon]

mine slipped out of the backpack

[earnest olive]

padded in two sides I guess

[obsidian wigeon]

i forgot to zip it up and bro picked the bag up

[earnest olive]

damn

[obsidian wigeon]

it slipped off ofc

dropped on a corner

that dented the lid

[earnest olive]

time for him to study fan bearing repair

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

well asus will accept rma for this damage

in thailand they offer 1st year accident warranty

damage is covered

you remember that strix prebuilt i scratched the hell out of its mobo?

yeah, they accepted that too

[earnest olive]

💀

[obsidian wigeon]

gave me brand new board

so surely they'll give me new lid and fans

[muted egret]

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZHzFgB

where can I make it better

[fossil cedar]

Do tou own anything yet?

Because uh not going am4, not getting a Nvidia card, getting a cheaper mobo cooler and case and ssd

[muted egret]

nothing

but the person wanted

ddr4

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/hNcRvj

budget is around 1.5k-2k

gpu there is at the wrong price

[cyan ravine]

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/tNzFgB

Go up to 7700 ryzen to max out 2k

[muted egret]

huuuuh

okeee

tyty

[cyan ravine]

Actually

@muted egret

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/nv4BjH

Fits in 2k

[muted egret]

ty

passed the message

[cyan ravine]

Np

[pseudo pollen]

That's the psu that blows up

[cyan ravine]

Nope

Pgm is the one that blows up

Udgm is a different design

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[cyan ravine]

I know because I had one blow up in my hands (or rather died from ocp)

[pseudo pollen]

Didn't know that, very interesting

[fossil cedar]

Different model entirely so makes sense

[dusky hearth]

smh you released the spoon after pulling the pin, you're supposed to hold the spoon till you need to throw it

[serene onyx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vrK2mD

Guys check out this build I made, is it any good? Also, can someone find a better wifi mobo

The one I actually wanted to put on there is like sold out

[mossy venture]

If you're fine with a different case https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rFzFgB

214xt also not needed, stock cooler is more than fine

@serene onyx

[serene onyx]

Alrighty thanks

[serene onyx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rFzFgB

What about this other build, is this build i made any good?

im trying to keep it below 550$. Im trying to make a pc for my cousin for his bday

[plucky timber]

Do you really need a cooler for an 12100F?

Pretty sure it can run fine on stock

[serene onyx]

Your right

What do i do about the mobo

its sold out

[limber oyster]

Found my itx case

[dusky hearth]

how do you lose it

[limber oyster]

Found the itx case imma buy

[dusky hearth]

OH

that makes more sense lol

[limber oyster]

Lol

[muted egret]

Imagine the case just running from his desk

[cyan ravine]

Yours doesn't?

[serene onyx]

Uses the fans as properlors to fly away

[muted egret]

Dawg

[limber oyster]

I do have noctua 150 cfm 3000 rpm fans

[plucky timber]

But which model is it

NF-P12?

NF-F12?

[limber oyster]

The industrial 120mm

Have 7 of them

[plucky timber]

uh

There's a bunch of them

[limber oyster]

Imagine 6 of those in a itx case

[dusky hearth]

Idk if 6 could fit in a itx case at all lmao

Maybe 5

Idk about 6

[limber oyster]

Put some inside and some outside of the case

[dusky hearth]

Real

[limber oyster]

Double stack

[dusky hearth]

Stack the fans 5 layers

[limber oyster]

Lol

fans go WWWWIIIIRRRRR

[teal dome]

put some on your monitor for better cooling

if theres no space

[cyan ravine]

Man's really want the gaming setup to sound like a stadium from 500m away

[jagged ember]

Bro wants the jet engine in his room

[teal dome]

performance >

[cyan ravine]

If I want performance I'd get B12's or Apexes

[stoic island]

nah how else are you going to get the finger chipper performance without actual finger chipping risk

[cyan ravine]

Electric pencil sharpener?

[restive halo]

Ok so I need a $1500 4060ti build. Strictly for gaming

[cyan ravine]

First question immediately

[restive halo]

1080p now but might upgrade to a 1440 monitor

[teal dome]

why 4060ti

lmao

[cyan ravine]

You can buy refurbished 3080's for the same price as a 4060ti

So yes

[restive halo]

That's what he wants

[cyan ravine]

Who wants

Lol

[teal dome]

prob his friend or some

[restive halo]

Lol

[earnest olive]

the fan noise means it's working

[cyan ravine]

Idk a 4060ti is basically a 3060 ti, if they insist I can, but like, good 30% or so slower than a 3080

[restive halo]

We can just build the best possible gaming build for $1500

[cyan ravine]

Just a heads up

[earnest olive]

this...

[cyan ravine]

I can definitely do that

[earnest olive]

i physically reacted to this message

[teal dome]

lmao

[earnest olive]

i was building better gaming pcs for $650 a full year ago

[teal dome]

they prob already have it bought or some

[earnest olive]

$1500 for a 4060ti? disgusting

[restive halo]

Lol I told him I'm going to change it lol

[earnest olive]

good

[teal dome]

amd or nvidia?

[earnest olive]

thank you for confiscating his koolaid

[stoic island]

aren't there 1200$ 4060ti prebuilts lol

[restive halo]

Lol

[earnest olive]

ironically, that was with an nvidia card

[teal dome]

used?

[earnest olive]

of course

[restive halo]

New

He wants new parts

[teal dome]

i was talking to mushroo

myb

[restive halo]

Lol

[earnest olive]

nvidia still thinks their 30 series gpus are worth what their msrp was 3 years ago

and unfortunately too many people agree for them to stop thinking so

[mossy venture]

If he really wants an nvidia gpu that isn't refurb https://pcpartpicker.com/list/29KsL9

[restive halo]

I like AMD but that just me

[mossy venture]

Can do better/cheaper than that too

[cyan ravine]

Probably a good 2x as fast?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/skDQ6D

[earnest olive]

this still beats the crap out of a 4060ti lol

[mossy venture]

Yeah that was my reasoning

[cyan ravine]

XTX I think even has better RT than a 4070 or 4060Ti

[teal dome]

bro loves bitfenix cases 💀

[mossy venture]

Cheapest 4070 tis are $800 still lol

[earnest olive]

you can even raise it to a 4070ti without breaking the budget

[cyan ravine]

I love a cheap mesh box with fans, there's no other reason

[mossy venture]

4070 $280 cheaper for what, 15% worse perf?

[earnest olive]

bitfelix

[teal dome]

real

[earnest olive]

how does a 4070ti do vs XTX in RT?

[cyan ravine]

Now I want to shill

[mossy venture]

G300a is $45 rn as a cheap alternative

With c12cs

[cyan ravine]

4070ti is slightly better

[teal dome]

45??

[cyan ravine]

Xtx rt perf is like

3080 12gb?

[mossy venture]

Yeah I believe so, unless sale ended

[cyan ravine]

3080?

It's around there

Maybe a little higher

[earnest olive]

interesting

[teal dome]

where is the sale?

[mossy venture]

Oh it's a mir apparently

$55 before the rebate

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6pBzK8/phanteks-eclipse-g300a-1-fan-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec300ga_dbk01

[teal dome]

mir?

[mossy venture]

Mail in rebate

[cyan ravine]

Ooo I'd take that for 45

[earnest olive]

could make much worse choices to shill for

[teal dome]

buy 3 fans for 15

[cyan ravine]

Get c12c's instead

[mossy venture]

It might be pcp showing the wrong price

[cyan ravine]

Yeahhh

[mossy venture]

I think its $50 after rebate

So meh

[earnest olive]

we love to see a company that actually cares about putting out good budget products

[teal dome]

after the rebate do they send you cash?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/V8Dkcf/cougar-mx331-mesh-x-atx-mid-tower-case-mx331-mesh-x

That would be fine too

[teal dome]

rather get a matx tho

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C7wmrv

Boop

Kinda dig it

Just need a black wifi board for 125 amd pls

[teal dome]

isnt the 7900xtx best card at amd?

[mossy venture]

B650 pro rs wifi same price rn

[teal dome]

or is there better

[cyan ravine]

Yes but everything else is black

[mossy venture]

Fair

[earnest olive]

i have purchased enough bitfenix nova mesh argb to build a small military base

[mossy venture]

Could do white ram 6000c32 for $5 more

[cyan ravine]

I mean, white board? Can still look ok

But it's like

Wearing a suit with sneakers

[restive halo]

After shipping it will be over $1500

[teal dome]

is it good case? im picking it up

[cyan ravine]

How much more

I can make it better

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/29KsL9 this is still fine

[teal dome]

should i buy more fans for it or is it fine

[mossy venture]

Though if he'd go amd

One sec

[earnest olive]

fans are more than half the reason to buy it

the preinstalled fan configuration is more than enough for any system you should be putting in it

[teal dome]

alright

[mossy venture]

Can cut price in some places if he wants cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2x9wcH

[earnest olive]

it's one of my favorite cases for budget flips

cheap way to get a lot of rgb while still having good airflow

[teal dome]

nice, also opinion on bitfenix prodigy? 2022

[earnest olive]

be careful about maximum gpu length though

its maximum gpu length is pretty small

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RYWJMV

[teal dome]

it fits my card tho

6700xt

[earnest olive]

it doesn't end up being a problem because, again, it's a budget case

but just pointing it out

[teal dome]

oh ok

[earnest olive]

i had a 5700xt that barely fit in it

like 1mm clearance left

[teal dome]

fr?

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cyxxsh

[earnest olive]

had to get creative to even insert it into the case

[mossy venture]

Can also go cheaper with 6950xt/7800xt

[earnest olive]

5700xt nitro+

[teal dome]

is it bigger?

mines a 3 fan

will it fit

[restive halo]

https://a.co/d/08vlk3L I have this case if it helps

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wX26rv @restive halo

1450

Or 7600 cpu for 1340

If he likes white

[earnest olive]

check the numbers

3 fan doesn't say as much as you think it does

my 3 fan gpu doesn't fit in an o11

[restive halo]

All white build possible?

[cyan ravine]

We could also fit rgb in this budget if he wants it

[mossy venture]

Could go even cheaper and still have a better build than a $1500 4060 ti build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dZ26rv

[cyan ravine]

Uh

[teal dome]

323

[cyan ravine]

I can do all white but not gpu

[earnest olive]

i am pretty sure 323 is too large for that case

but again

check the numbers

[cyan ravine]

Unless you want to pay a LOT for white gpu

[earnest olive]

i might be misremembering

haven't built a pc in a while

[teal dome]

it says 345

[restive halo]

No all good. Just waiting on his reply. Appreciate everyone

[earnest olive]

you're fine then

[teal dome]

ok

[earnest olive]

i think i was remembering the meshify c at 315 💀

[mossy venture]

For all white including gpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GL4Zwg

[cyan ravine]

@restive halo https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MvbRvj

Oh what

Wait

[mossy venture]

If fine with black gpu https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rGxxsh

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MvbRvj

[mossy venture]

From there can go cheaper with 12600k/b760m pro rs

[cyan ravine]

There we go

[mossy venture]

Lol almost identical build felix, just cpu diff

[cyan ravine]

Yis

[mossy venture]

Ok I'm out to watch one piece now have fun

[cyan ravine]

It's a huge jump to 7900xt though

Like 20-30%?

[mossy venture]

Yeah its worth it

[cyan ravine]

Yeah

[mossy venture]

Could also go 2tb ssd with the 7600 lists

If they would like to

[restive halo]

He said black and white

[cyan ravine]

He wants black and white?

[restive halo]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

Hm alr

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WCDQ6D

Can do white or black for the fans, either works

Same for the 214xt, white or black, whichever he would like more

Actually same for ram too, identical black kit is the same price

[cyan ravine]

?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XzkH28

[mossy venture]

Any of the like dozen lists posted is fine

[cyan ravine]

Pretty much

Pick the colours mix n match lol

[mossy venture]

Also if he likes the look of an aio, notte is cheap and not unreasonable, though it is certainly not needed on any of the three cpus

[restive halo]

Lol I appreciate it. As always you guys go above znd beyond

[cyan ravine]

[restive halo]

He likes the AIO look

[cyan ravine]

Alr

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J7pQ6D

Hows this

7700x fits in this list for 1481

If that's still under for including shipping

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HBhv34

Notte is nice too, it comes with an infinity mirror

Like an nzxt kraken but both better and cheaper

This is also pretty good too
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mTzXyg

Would argue better overall

I'd have to shuffle things a bit for black and white tho but it's doable

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2bTZwg

Probably the best list of them all imo

@restive halo

[restive halo]

Said he wants Nvidia now

😑

[cyan ravine]

Ehhh

Well the list won't be as great but ok

[restive halo]

3080? Or is better possible

[cyan ravine]

Much better is possible

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pZ9wcH

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/hog-boar-emoji-mindblown-mind-blown-slideshow-meme-gif-26390794

[cyan ravine]

But I struggle to recommend this cos

In a drag race the 7900xt is comparable in both raster and rt combined

[dusky hearth]

💀

[cyan ravine]

And it's 720 vs 800?

[dusky hearth]

it's always the brand

[cyan ravine]

So like, 10% cheaper for the same overall performance from amd instead?

And more vram?

[restive halo]

He wants raytracing he said

[earnest olive]

mr. felix please build me list. me only want micron ddr5. thanks.

[cyan ravine]

Ye, the new amd cards can do ray tracing

[restive halo]

That's what I thought

[cyan ravine]

It's just a little bit slower than nvidia, but they're faster in raw fps so it makes up for the difference

[restive halo]

The 7900xt has raytracing yes?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[dusky hearth]

7000 series in general has rt yeah

[earnest olive]

me liked crucial ballistix. now only want micron ddr5 to be loyal. thanks.

[dusky hearth]

real

[cyan ravine]

I can link a review rq devi one sec

[restive halo]

Thank you

[cyan ravine]

@restive halo
Found a good side by side
https://youtu.be/fIuBheJiNDg?si=_62hbsG9VrBWiwQ8

[restive halo]

Hahaha

That's the one I just sent him lol

Nice

[cyan ravine]

Yeah I'm looking for something easy to understand that shows off it's current RT capabilities but it's not easy

I get snippets here and there but not anything whole in a simple short vid sorry

[restive halo]

He still says he wants nvidia

[earnest olive]

hey. felix. you know, i was thinking. my old corsair ddr3 pretty good. so i want ddr5 corsair with micron chip. can you do it? thanks

[restive halo]

4070 ti or 4080

[cyan ravine]

Well if he's set on it by now then it's fine

Nah 4080 won't fit

Like at all

[earnest olive]

$1200 gpu in $1500 budget lol

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pZ9wcH it's pretty much this

Maybe 12600K? But it'll be slower in games

Faster in work

[earnest olive]

will 4080 bottleneck by i7 4th generation? i7 good right?

...now i kinda wish i actually tested that

i tested i7-4790K + 3080

[cyan ravine]

That's about as good as it gets from intel

Wait

No

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4GdGL9

now it's about as good as it gets from intel

Lol

It's like, 5% slower in games for like, 40% faster in work?

Lolol

Alr well hope that helps Devi I'm out for now. Big day ahead

[noble ridge]

Hi, was hoping someone could help me out a bit. I've not really dabbled in networking, hence am a complete newbie to all of this. Recently I moved to a larger house and have noticed a major drop in wifi speeds at the edges of the house. Regardless of whether it's a 2.4ghz or 5ghz band, I get a max of about 20-30 megabit on my 200 megabit plan

I was hoping someone could help me find a way to boost signal strength to those edges of my house while maintaining the speed and latency

[plucky timber]

#electronics would probably be a better place

[cyan ravine]

I'd say #electronics-and-networking, but...well

[potent portal]

Any solution is going to add at least a little bit of latency.
If latency is a major concern then I'd recommend either running ethernet cables or using powerline ethernet. You can add more routers at the end of a powerline network to increase wireless coverage. The disadvantage of powerline is you may lose some speed, depending on the age of your wiring.
A tri band mesh network would be good but adds a little more latency.
I do not recommend using repeaters or extenders.

[noble ridge]

How about access points, I was recommended using those. Was told they maintain the speed while not really adding to the latency

[noble ridge]

Sorry, wasn't really sure which one wd b appropriate

[cyan ravine]

Oh no didn't mean that to you, don't mind me, something else

Lol

I agree with Fal, mesh networking is pretty good even if it's a small latency hit

Access points are like, an additional link in the chain? Rather than meshing being a part of the same link as the main router

So the latency is much lower

Hope that makes sense

[noble ridge]

I see, I don't think that system would be in my budget though

[cyan ravine]

Meshing can be pretty affordable

[noble ridge]

Ah, so like what's the difference between that and a repeater/extender

[cyan ravine]

Here's an easy comparison, you know christmas lights how they're in a row?

Think of an extender or access point as another christmas light in the row

Whereas a mesh router would be another light side-by-side to the first light instead

[noble ridge]

My main point of concern w mesh is that I live in India, we hv solid concrete walls instead of those plaster walls you find in the western countries. Hence I'll need multiple mesh devices to get the full coverage. Plus, we have a very heavy tech tariff. So even cheap products r quite expensive here🥲

[cyan ravine]

Ah yeah I know india can be insanely expensive

There isn't really a better way to go about it tho, apart from what fal said with powerline adapters (both adapters need to be on the same circuit) or ethernet

[noble ridge]

Will I need a new SSID n connection for the new AP or is it just gonna work off the SSID and connection of the main router modem combo?

[cyan ravine]

Otherwise you will be looking at like a 50ms+ latency hit

[cyan ravine]

Depending how you set it up, either or

In my experience you get the freedom of choice

[noble ridge]

So like i can set it up without having to buy a new connection from my ISP?

And still hold the same speed and latency benefits?

[cyan ravine]

Not the same latency no

Same speed yes

Latency +50ms or more with AP or extender

It's enough to make gaming feel horrible

<Take it from the dummy who tried it lol

Mesh is great, powerline is great, ethernet is great. If you are doing anything latency critical like games, don't do AP

[noble ridge]

Ah.....well that's sad af. My PC is in one of those edge rooms

[cyan ravine]

I kinda surmised it from the discussion yeah

You really want something that offers you a low latency solution

[noble ridge]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

Better to bite the bullet and get the solution known to work well than try being cheap imo

Been there done that

[noble ridge]

M on a college student budget, so yeah, that's y I want it cheap😭. Got a largeish apartment with 6 other room mates n they ain't willing to pitch in

Lemme see what I can do

Ty fr the help

[cyan ravine]

Heh

Maybe look at stringing a long ethernet then

If anyone complains tell them they weren't willing to help out

[noble ridge]

💀

[cyan ravine]

(don't take me seriously LOL)

[noble ridge]

XD

Well, ty, got a basic understanding of this network stuff, ill figure smthn out

[cyan ravine]

Np

I'd love to give proper recommendations but we don't really have any place for collated info here about it

Nor am I allowed to offer discord links to reputable sources

If you get the basic premise tho then it's fairly easy to be smart about it

[noble ridge]

Not allowed to on this server or just generally, because if u hv sm good recommendations, I don't mind a DM convo

[cyan ravine]

I can drop a dm link to a discord

Add me rq

[noble ridge]

That much I got a grasp on, should be able to further figure stuff out frm youtube vids n what not

[dusky hearth]

(Take him seriously)

[cyan ravine]

The devil on my shoulder fr

[dusky hearth]

The angel*

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

[manic cloak]

Ladies and gentlemen

He lives in the neighboring city

[dusky hearth]

Wh

[manic cloak]

He had it in a nice build ngl

[dusky hearth]

Why does someone want to buy the build but not the gpu lmfao

[manic cloak]

So I think this is a buy

Not the rig itself

Just the card.

[round cloud]

If I’m looking at spending more like $800 on a gpu, u guys think amd still the way to go? Don’t care about ray tracing.

[manic cloak]

Ofc

[round cloud]

I’ve been very indecisive about this process lol I might as well just get a bigger gpu now or I’ll be thinking about it forever

[manic cloak]

US right?

[round cloud]

Yep and near MicroCenter

[manic cloak]

ok ok and do you have a current build?

[round cloud]

They have decent deals on the 7900xt but not 7900xtx

Yea, I have a full new build in the works. Everything’s otw

[manic cloak]

Send it

If you have a pcpp

[round cloud]

Let me see

[round cloud]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8ZwC6D

7800xt has been ordered from Bestbuy but cancellable

[manic cloak]

You bought all of this alr, can’t return some?

Cause ngl the Samsung ssd is not worth unless you’re doing video editing or something?

Same with sata unless you alr bought.

And I could PROBABLY find you better ddr5 + you have a micro atx w a mesh cover case so it’s likely you won’t even see the rgb on the ram

Also

Where did you buy the 7800x3d?

[round cloud]

By SATA do you mean the crucial? Yea, it’s from previous build so irrelevant I suppose

Samsung NVMe I now realized was bad value. Bought from Microcenter. I assume no prob to return.

I got the non rgb version of the ram from Newegg.

I don’t care about RGB at all. I’d rather not have it tbh. I would be annoyed if I had a part with lights that can’t be turned off.

I bought the 7800x3d from Amazon

[dusky hearth]

I don't look at my pc but yeah I have random parts with rgb lmao

I don't want to download software to turn it off so it just runs

[manic cloak]

When did you buy the ssd?

[dusky hearth]

They said previous build

So probably at least a year

[manic cloak]

Ah

So I’d recommend this

Give me just a second

[round cloud]

I should edit the list to be more clear on that but on mobile

[manic cloak]

Nono it’s fine

Same here I’ll fix tho

Which microcenter @round cloud

[round cloud]

Houston

[manic cloak]

Congrats

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MDjqmD

Hold on

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jFZqmD

[round cloud]

Haha I was looking at 6950xt but was talked into 7800xt on here

[manic cloak]

Recommend to: Return ram & cpu. Why? Microcenter has 599.99 6950xt deal w buying any CPu at microcenter.

[manic cloak]

Yikes

Might wanna have somebody review your build then 😭

Anyways return ram, aio, and cpu.

Go buy the cpu (if they have it) at microcenter, then get the 6950xt from there aswell, if you gotta price match the cpu do it.

Ram same price but certified Hynix cause of its CL

[cyan ravine]

Iirc there's a really good reason why we suggested the 7800xt

But I can't remember why anymore

I feel like the result strayed a ways off from where we started tho

[round cloud]

They did

The nvme i just got at mc

[cyan ravine]

But the ram aio and ssd I definitely wouldn't have suggested unless the ram was an mc deal

[round cloud]

Aio, got at MC

[cyan ravine]

How much were all these things?

I think we need more context

Microcenter prices aren't shown on pcpartpicker

[round cloud]

Cpu cooler was $95 which I think is ok? I like how it looks

Samsung nvme I should return

[manic cloak]

Is the aio and ram not good Felix?

[manic cloak]

You could keep that if you want

If you need to save money then frozen notte

[cyan ravine]

If the ram was free in a bundle at mc, free is always better

[manic cloak]

It isn’t

[round cloud]

Sec

[manic cloak]

The ram on my list is just the same price

Lower CL

[cyan ravine]

Sadly you can buy a notte for the same performance at like, 60% of the price lol

[cyan ravine]

Hold on I'll tidy up the list

[cyan ravine]

Oh those might be bacca's sticks

The 6000 cl32's

Specifically cl32

Yes?

It's printed on the sticker on the back of the ram, you can read it on the back of the packet

[round cloud]

Don’t have it

Yet

[cyan ravine]

Ah

[round cloud]

I don’t see the cpu much cheaper anywhere else and am looking forward to the starfield code

[cyan ravine]

Here's what tidied up should look like

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4X2zfy

Try cross compare your prices to see what's cheaper and what's not

This is basically like for like

I wish I could remember why we picked this cpu/gpu combo

I feel like there was a really really good reason

@mossy venture do you remember why we did this combo?

[round cloud]

There’s value in sticking with what I have where I can. My psu is already mounted lol. It actually works well in the case, the plug orientation is rotated so it it’s much easier to fit

[cyan ravine]

Ofc

But whatever you can switch I would

[round cloud]

Not a big price diff between 7700 something and 7800x3d

[cyan ravine]

For example any cl36 ram is basically trash

(bar the obvious 8000 sticks)

[round cloud]

Is the ram I ordered not good?

[cyan ravine]

I need the specific sku to double check

But if its 6000 cl36 then no I would absolutely return

They have a better oloy kit for the same price

[dusky hearth]

Is starfield even worth it

[cyan ravine]

Skyrim fan? Yeah kinda

[round cloud]

ND5U1660320BRLDE

[cyan ravine]

Keep it. Good kit

[cyan ravine]

How much?

90$?

[round cloud]

$90.99

[cyan ravine]

Keep it

The pcpartpicker had a different kit

All good

The aio however, if it's not too late, definitely switch

The notte is basically equal to the SE for almost half price

Ssd...yeah I'd switch it if it wasn't $80 or less

980 pro that is

[round cloud]

Ya know there was a $20 coupon I had for it and forgot to use.

Which would make it def worth keeping

[cyan ravine]

Would it be 80$?

If not then there's a better ssd for that price

[round cloud]

Wym

[cyan ravine]

There's a couple ssd's I'd pick over a 980 pro tbh

980 pro had the firmware scandal that Samsung offered no warranties for

Basically drives returned en masse for locking people out after a certain amount of time and use

Alternatives...

S70 blade

P41 plus

P31 gold

Sn770

Sn850/sn850x

Xs70

Z440 pro(?)

That should be quite a few options to give you ammo for changing over the ssd

If not the 980 pro for $80 is still decent

2tb

[round cloud]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/652516/solidigm-p41-plus-series-2tb-ssd-pcie-nvme-40-x4-144l-3d-qlc-nand-flash-m2-2280-internal-solid-state-drive

Nah I paid $130 for the Samsung, def gotta return I think

[cyan ravine]

Ah

Yeah p41 plus def better then

For $60? That's a steal

Wayyy better

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Sorry. The coupon was for the aio

[cyan ravine]

Oh I see