#building-and-recc-chat

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dusky hearth
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i havent done the performance optimizations for my g15 so igpu only lasts like 4 hours at most for me lmfao

lyric thistle
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I'm guessing the system for it will be a lot more durable considering it's done with usbc

dusky hearth
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also doesn't help that i have a fair amount of background programs after over a year of using it

pseudo pollen
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It's a possibility though, but it's very unlikely to happen in the first place. I think the modular ports also are meant to be modular, being easily repairable is just a bonus imo

dusky hearth
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do you have any sleep issues with your g14? my g15 somewhat often has the issues, but it could be caused by like, asus's software or smth idk

lyric thistle
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My Lenovo desktop has had sleep issues lmao

lyric thistle
dusky hearth
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device not wanting to go to sleep
also the average windows modern standby issues
and sleeping just crashes the system for some reason (or maybe it shut off from overheating, not too sure, because i have to throw the laptop in my bag to go to my next class or such)

lyric thistle
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I might have solved the auto sleep on mine but I still wake up to the damn thing idling awake after making it sleep before going to bed

desert gulch
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Never had those issues, I throw mine in my bag and open it next class, and it just immediately face id and logs me in. I have fiddled with the windows sleep settings a bit and Ive updated my bios so yeah

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The one thing I notice is if I have like Spotify or something open and am not actively using it and come back in like 10 minutes (I have sleep timer set to like 30 mins) and I try to move my mouse it is at like 2 fps and has to kinda wake up, but that's probably some efficiency thing it does to conserve power

lyric thistle
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Tosses Spotify into the page file or something

desert gulch
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Not that I've ever had an issue with not having enough battery tho

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I charge mine once every 3 days or so and it charges in like an hour or something

dusky hearth
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you need to charge your laptop as often as i need to charge my watch skullcry

leaden mauve
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I need to charge my brain soon

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But I'm hungry

dusky hearth
leaden mauve
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I could eat a

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Eat a

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A

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Whole pizza.

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(I'm standing in a pizza place rn)

lyric thistle
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But are you standing in a pizza

leaden mauve
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I'd rather not

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That's bad for my shoes and a waste of food

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And cleaning the floor would be unpleasant

dusky hearth
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What if 20 dolar

lyric thistle
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Suit yourself

leaden mauve
desert gulch
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I charge mine once a month

frigid night
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Man. I have to charge my watch every night

lyric thistle
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Bro has thorium batteries

lyric thistle
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hmm

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computer won't sleep again lmao

potent portal
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Give it a few years. The first nuclear diamond batteries will be going into smart watches. You'll never need to charge it, ever.

lyric thistle
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it'll burn brighter if you light it on fire

latent condor
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Is an rx6600 8gb a good choice for a $700-$750 build

cyan ravine
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It's not bad

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Dependin how you do it/time of sale, a 6600xt/6650XT/7600 could also fit

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But 6600 isn't bad at all, you probably have some $50 that could be trimmed tho

lethal tapir
latent condor
manic cloak
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cause I’m buying a 200$ 6700xt, and it was inside that.

dusky hearth
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it's not basically an external gpu
it is an external gpu

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well

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the enclosure

obsidian wigeon
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it's just an enclosure

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can't find anything bad about it

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it is a gpu just in an enclosure

manic cloak
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Ah

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Alr sweet

dusky hearth
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iirc it's a pretty good enclosure, even considering the price

obsidian wigeon
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yeah

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you're getting two birds from one stone in this case

dusky hearth
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if your laptop supports usbc PD 100w, (and doesn't need more than 100w charging) you can just power it and connect it to the egpu with just that one cable

obsidian wigeon
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or did the owner sell gpu separate?

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if it comes with enclosure it's a steal lmao

dusky hearth
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technically my g15 supports 100w charging but it needs more than 100w lmao

manic cloak
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Uhh let me send

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Also idk if this is any good 💀

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The VII I’m talking about

dusky hearth
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370 is worth it tbh

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just buying the enclosure new is 300

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and you'll just need to spend another like

manic cloak
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Idk what I’d need the enclosure for tbh

dusky hearth
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$20 maybe for a thunderbolt cable

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oh

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you don't have a laptop?

manic cloak
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Nope 💀

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My name

dusky hearth
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i see

manic cloak
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Makes it obvious lmao

dusky hearth
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any friends who might want it?

manic cloak
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Uhhh tbh, maybe my cousin? Issue is

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I could build him a pc for around 600$

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With all used parts

dusky hearth
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i mean, if they have a laptop already (with thunderbolt or usb4 compatibility)

manic cloak
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Cause he has like a crappy i3 7th gen laptop

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Nah probably not

dusky hearth
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i3 7th gen supports thunderbolt 3, at least the desktop variant

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if the laptop itself has it, that's a big question lmao

manic cloak
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Ya I’m telling you, he only had 64gb of storage

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Roblox, minecraft and discord is the only thing he can really run

dusky hearth
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maybe

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i mean

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you could sell just the enclosure to a friend for like, $185 so it's slightly cheaper than buying seperate

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split the cost lmao

earnest olive
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it's not worth strapping an egpu to a laptop with a 7th gen i3 in it

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the enclosure is worth more than the laptop

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and it'll probably be bottlenecking even like a 1050ti

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i3-7100u is dual core, 2.4ghz with no turbo, and 3mb of cache

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with ddr4-2133 jedec as max support

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that laptop more than likely has it in single channel as well

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could even be lpddr3-1866 or ddr3l-1600

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$600 used pc would be much more cost effective for him

mossy venture
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Or there have been a lot of good laptop sales, there was a 3050 4gb 1240p one for $500 the other day

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Actually that was yesterday

earnest olive
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now i'm actually curious how low you'd have to go on the gpu to not get bottlenecked by i3-7100u + 4gb single channel ddr3L-1600

mossy venture
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3050 6gb one for $600 was a couple days ago

earnest olive
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think it could handle a gtx 750?

mossy venture
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Well 7100u has worse single and multi core than a 3470

earnest olive
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feel like you'd have to go weaker than gtx 750

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it's also gonna be limited to pcie 3.0 x4

mossy venture
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If I remember right my 3470 was limiting my 1030 gddr5

earnest olive
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maybe a gts 450 lol

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the infamous scam card

mossy venture
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Why's that?

earnest olive
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the fake 1050tis all over wish/aliexpress are usually rebranded gts 450

mossy venture
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Ah

earnest olive
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i wonder if it's the same companies that used to make scam gpus that are now making those legit desktop gpus using the laptop gpu cores?

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maybe they figured out it's more profitable to sell real products that won't get returned idk lol

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it's not that easy to make gpu pcbs even if you're slapping a piece of crap on as the core

terse jackal
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CPU needs a new cooler yes

mossy venture
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Better cooler won't help much until you change case

terse jackal
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Case ideas?

tawny violet
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Pretty much anything with a mesh front and at least 2 or 3 fans would lower temps

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Beyond that it's all about what you need it to do (hard drive slots? RBG?)

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Oh and how much builder convenience you want

mossy venture
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Does size of case matter to you?

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And how much would you want to spend

terse jackal
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$200-$250 absolutely most,aesthetics matter, size don’t care

mossy venture
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Oh there's plenty of sub$100 options

terse jackal
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Thank god

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People are saying my cooler has to go

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But LF2 is just so ugly

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I need an alternative for my ryzen 7 5800x that isn’t that ugly

mossy venture
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You don't need an aio, but if you want one frozen notte is the way to go

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One sec

terse jackal
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My temps currently are 85-90 at full load cpu

mossy venture
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For both aio and case

terse jackal
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White

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Aio idc

mossy venture
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Could do ls720 or notte 360 as well

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The frozen magic has an lcd display like corsair and nzxt aios

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There's plenty of other case options too btw

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If you dont like that one

tawny violet
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@terse jackal is an AIO mandatory?

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Cuz if not
I can very much recommend the AK620

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IIRC it comes in white too

mossy venture
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Ak620 is good but it's not great priced anymore

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Thermalright has a lot of cheaper dual towers that are just as good for less

tawny violet
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It's still better in price/perf than an AIO

mossy venture
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True

tawny violet
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And since he said he doesn't like the LF2

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I went for my alternative recommendation

mossy venture
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Though you can't get 360mm performance from an air cooler

tawny violet
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Eeeeeehh

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Do you even need 360mm performance for a 5800X?

mossy venture
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Need, no, but it'll still be hitting 80s-90s with pbo on under a good dual tower

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5800x is toasty

tawny violet
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I suppose

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Ryzen is really weird to me sometimes

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Like a 12c doing better with temps than an 8c

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It just messes with my brain ngl

terse jackal
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@mossy venture any other case recommendations

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Do i need a 360??

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280s fine right?

mossy venture
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Aio model matters a lot

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But depending on the model a 280 is fine yes

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And g360a, 903 max, basically any fractal design case with a mesh front, p400a

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There's some others too I forget the names of, I'll find some

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H5 flow, 4000d airflow, o11, lian li ii mech c, lian li 216, fractal design pop air, montech x3, nova mesh se

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Some of those fit 280s/360s some dont

earnest olive
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a 5800x scales with as much cooling as you can give it

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just like ryzen 7000 lol

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my 5800x hit 90c under 360mm aio in 1 second when I pushed it to 170W

terse jackal
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@earnest olive what’s your point? Do you mean like there’s no hope? 😂😂

earnest olive
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no

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it means 240 is fine, 280 is fine, 360 is fine, 420 is fine, mora 1080 is fine

terse jackal
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Heard

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What’s your suggestion, 240? Or 360?

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Like overall

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What’s the performance increase i can expect with better temps

earnest olive
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in games? nothing

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you'll gain some funny cinebench points with 360

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all core workloads may get a small boost

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new case will probably make a bigger difference than new cooler

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that h60 is probably due for an upgrade but the h510 is a bigger problem for cpu temps

terse jackal
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So case > cooler for my build right now

earnest olive
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yeah if you can afford both do both but if you have to prioritize one then prioritize case

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you can just put a pa120 air cooler on the 5800x for like $34 too, don't have to get an aio

terse jackal
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I’m confused

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I thought i was doing the LF2 and a H5 Flow

earnest olive
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that's fine too

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just supplementing the information you've been given

strong raft
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If aio, 280 would be good because it's 2fan but nearly 360 performance. (Just my personal though)

little osprey
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When should one choose E-ATX and when should one choose ATX

dusky hearth
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eatx isn't a real standard

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but i'd assume it's just when you want more io or smth

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unless there's no benefit then there's no reason to get it

desert gulch
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If you don't know if you need eatx, chances are you don't

strong raft
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Many Eatx mobos are just an inch or so wider, like the z690 evga dark if I remember correctly. Indeed not much reason to actively hunt for em.

cyan ravine
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@terse jackal launch it, click "sensors-only"

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Then scroll down to gpu until you see gpu core and hotspot temperatures

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It'll also show vram temperature

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Memory junction is the name

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Should be the top 3 reported values for your gpu

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The thing with programs like, afterburner for example is the core temp may be the dictator of the card's behaviour, but many many other sensors are just as important and can trigger the thermal shutdown if too hot

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I really have doubts now that what's happening is the mobo

terse jackal
cyan ravine
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What was happening before definitely was telling, completely different symptoms

terse jackal
cyan ravine
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Ok

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So

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Start the game up and see what hwinfo says

terse jackal
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Any way I can record it

cyan ravine
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Which gpu is this btw

terse jackal
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the shut down is semi random

cyan ravine
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Just go to menu

cyan ravine
terse jackal
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2080 Super 8 GB

cyan ravine
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Alr

terse jackal
cyan ravine
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Which model?

cyan ravine
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Then check temps

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After like, 30 seconds in the menu

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*I'm fairly sure it's the gpu rn

cyan ravine
terse jackal
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windforce gigabyte

cyan ravine
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Alr

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It'll be out of warranty by now

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So we'll just have a close look at temps

cyan ravine
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You can alt tab to hwinfo at any time to check

terse jackal
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It's modded minecraft that we're talking about here btw

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The issue happens on many games however

cyan ravine
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Many games is more telling to a hardware side

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Or potentially ddu

terse jackal
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how do you mean

cyan ravine
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Nvidia drivers are so messed up when they break

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They can look like anything

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Like produce actually anything as a problem

terse jackal
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I did DDU though remember?

cyan ravine
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You did? I just woke up remember

terse jackal
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ah yes

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haha

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I did, before the OS reinstall

cyan ravine
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Ok so it's more likely thermals

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Play for a little bit and just alt tab out to check again

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We're gonna baby steps this

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Then after that I want you to try gaming with 100% fan

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On the gpu

terse jackal
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Okay got it to happen

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Let me check the recording

thorn mural
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is the 450bt from evga okay for 3300x/1070 for gaming only (no overclocking)

terse jackal
thorn mural
terse jackal
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Okay 74 @cyan ravine

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Recording shows when I freeze in game and eveything

cyan ravine
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That climbs hilariously fast

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Like wtf

terse jackal
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yeah like omg

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haha

cyan ravine
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Ok I'm fairly convinced

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Try gaming with afterburner manually setting the fans to 100%

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Just locked

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Then try playing for like, 10-30 minutes

manic cloak
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Felix quick question

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I can’t drive, guy is willing to bring the 6700xt to me for 250$, or the 3070 for 250$ lives in the neighboring city which I can walk to

cyan ravine
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Ooof

manic cloak
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OR should I wait it out and see if I can get people to drive up to wherever the hell he lives for 200$

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200$ 6700xt*

cyan ravine
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$200 is great but petrol costs are involved anyway

manic cloak
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Downside to both of this is.. no pc to test

cyan ravine
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So 250 is reasonable

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3070 is better for 250 tho imo

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Granted what we know

manic cloak
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And 200$ is wayyy better for the 6700xt?

cyan ravine
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It is if you can get up there without specifically driving up there

terse jackal
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okay so @cyan ravine put this up to 100% and see what happens when i launch game?

cyan ravine
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Yep

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It should be a noisy gpu

terse jackal
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yeah shes loud

cyan ravine
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But if the problem disappears then it's thermals for sure

terse jackal
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no issues.....yet

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@cyan ravine what can we do if its the GPU

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looking like having fans at max is working

cyan ravine
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Repaste

terse jackal
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How hard is that on a scale of 1-10

cyan ravine
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If you're careful prying it open not to break anything?

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As easy as a cpu cooler change tbh

terse jackal
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okay

cyan ravine
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Just be very very slow prying

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It may seem like it won't happen

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But patience as the thermal pads and paste peel slowly will stop pads ripping and the gpu board from ripping of pieces

round cloud
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I have purchased a 7800 XT

cyan ravine
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Nice

round cloud
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It'll arrive mid next week

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I might be able to sort everything else in person at microcenter

terse jackal
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@cyan ravine got her open

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Does that look bad

cyan ravine
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The paste indeed looks a bit dry

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But we'll see

terse jackal
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Okay wipe it all away

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And re apply

cyan ravine
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Yep

terse jackal
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How much for something this small like half a pea size of thermal paste

cyan ravine
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Then reapply, cover the whole chip

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No cover it

terse jackal
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Okay I’ll also watch a video

cyan ravine
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Enough for a layer and no shiny bits seen

terse jackal
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Okay

cyan ravine
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You miss a bit? That bit gets hot

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Not like a cpu where the ihs helps for stuff like that

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The bits getting hot will be likely the reason your gpu shuts off so you want a full layer

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Not crazy thick, just covered

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Then we'll try again but well put your fans back to normal

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Not 0 but "auto" in afterburner

round cloud
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I found a Fractal Design Meshify 2 Black for $136 open box at Micro Center...that should work eh?

cyan ravine
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A bit expensive but if you love it then yeah?

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Huge case btw

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Very difficult to carry I would reckon

round cloud
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Yea

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Now that im watching this vid, its too big

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Eh, a 4000D for $76 is there, too

primal linden
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rad

cyan ravine
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76 for a 4000D is nice. Standard pc size

primal linden
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how many fans does it come with

cyan ravine
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2 iirc

primal linden
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eh

round cloud
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i'm down to buy fans

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i like the tan ones lol

cyan ravine
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Thermalright c12c's

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The tan ones are expensive for no benefit

primal linden
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true

cyan ravine
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Thermalright makes black better fans for 1/3 the price

primal linden
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you get some arr gee bee on a budget

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cooler and 5 fans

round cloud
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i dont really want RGB.

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Maybe a small amount of lighting would be cool, but I would want it like static white and night bright

cyan ravine
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Thermalright B12's are the tan noctuas

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For 15$ not 35$

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You'd be basically be paying $20 for the colour lol

primal linden
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if aesthetics is worth 20 bucks you can do it if you want

terse jackal
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This looks sus

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The thermal pad on the left

cyan ravine
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I wouldn't that's more than the fan cost lol

terse jackal
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Is that alright?

round cloud
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nah

terse jackal
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It looks like they got thermal paste on it

round cloud
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whatever better than average bang for buck black fans

cyan ravine
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Oh

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Maybe?

terse jackal
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Is that fine?

cyan ravine
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That shouldn't matter

terse jackal
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Okay

cyan ravine
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It's gddr6 iirc

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No big deal

terse jackal
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So i can’t just put it down like a CPU cooler?

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I need to spread it?

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The thermal paste

round cloud
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Arctic P12 fan - is it what it sounds like

terse jackal
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@cyan ravine

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Sorry for spam tagging LUL

cyan ravine
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need

terse jackal
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How to spread with what

cyan ravine
terse jackal
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How thick

cyan ravine
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Just enough to cover all the shiny

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Lol

terse jackal
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Okay haha

cyan ravine
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Use like

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A plastic glove and your finger

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Or an old credit card

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Something old with a flat side you don't need

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You shouldn't really need much more than a line as long as the chip is basically

terse jackal
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Fine too much too little?

cyan ravine
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Looks good

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Pop it back on, screw in a cross formation

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Bit by bit

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Then other screws of the gpu back on

terse jackal
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So one corner than the next corner

cyan ravine
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Then give it another go

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Ye

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You got it

terse jackal
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Kay here we go

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Crashed @cyan ravine

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Temps went from 60-77 within 54 seconds

cyan ravine
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...hmm

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The pads didn't seem dry to you at all did they?

terse jackal
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Nah not at all

cyan ravine
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Oh actually

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Big question

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Do the fans turn on

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Like at all

terse jackal
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Yeah haha

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They are blasting right now as it just crashed

cyan ravine
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Cos if it just sits there and the hysteresis means they don't turn on before it crashes

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That would just mean the stock bios is garbage

terse jackal
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So as the GPU gets hotter. The fans get louder while watching temps, so I don’t think that’s the problem.

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Wtf keyboard

cyan ravine
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Not 61 to 77 in 10

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But 54 is a lot better

terse jackal
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Lol yeah i suppose but I’m still defeated

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I mean, I’m just gonna have to get a new graphics card, right? Can this issue even be fixed?

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Oh heck something new

cyan ravine
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It can be fixed

terse jackal
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The vga debug light is on

cyan ravine
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Reseat the gpu, and we try again

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Flip the pc off

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Take it out, back in

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My second guess is a stage could be failing under heat

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Not sure yet though

terse jackal
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CPU just reseated today as the mobo was replaced

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OMG I CANT TYPE

cyan ravine
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I mean a gpu stage

terse jackal
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Okay so it’s currently in failure

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Like before I’ve manually shut it off

cyan ravine
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The fact that it was fine with the fans up is telling that it's the gpu rn, something is unhappy

terse jackal
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And the VGA light flipped on

terse jackal
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okay so take out GPU and re seat it, make issue happen again with what changes?

cyan ravine
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Nah not again

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It won't be core or vram

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My guess next is you make a new fan curve

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A custom one that is stronger

terse jackal
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It sounds broken to me

cyan ravine
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Or rather more efficient

terse jackal
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Idk how to make a custom fan curve like at all

cyan ravine
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If you can get it back on then it's not broken lol

terse jackal
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There is the option to test the graphics card in a different PC that I know works

cyan ravine
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You could try that yeah

terse jackal
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That’ll have to wait till another day though

Should I start looking into graphics card alternatives?

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Also thank you for all of your help

cyan ravine
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It's ok

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I'd just keep trying until you get it to turn back on

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Then we'd make a custom fan curve with afterburner

round cloud
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I need a PSU...750 or 850?

cyan ravine
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Or perpetually run the gpu at like 70% fan

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If the stages are running too warm then it's possible you could get failing stages

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There's nothing on them after all

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Not like newer cards that extract that heat

terse jackal
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Well the pc does come on and passes boot - I’m saying that when the pc crashes the fans get loud monitors turn off and VGA light turns on until manually powered off

cyan ravine
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Actually I'm wrong I can see the pads for the stages

cyan ravine
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So just make a manual fan curve then

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You do it with afterburner

terse jackal
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The VGA light wasn’t coming on with the other mobo

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Weirdly enough

cyan ravine
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Oh? But still crashes?

terse jackal
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Yeah

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Strange as heck

cyan ravine
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So just pop into afterburner and you'll make a fan curve profile

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You'll run it basically all the time

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I'd pick a short fan hysteresis of like

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1-2 seconds

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And then have them rap up to 70%+ beyond somewhere around 73C

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Play with it a bit though

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Only you will know what you'd like for a working fan curve

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It could just be that in the right hands this gpu just needs a brief bake to reflow

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It's quite possible given the age anyway

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Not something I recommend trying btw

terse jackal
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I will ask though

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How did it pass all stress tests @cyan ravine

cyan ravine
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?

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Best buy are dummies dude

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Most pc warranty people are

terse jackal
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Fair 😂

cyan ravine
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The number of times I've had arguments and been proven right from them lad

#

It's the same for most people who claim warranty

#

Guilty until proven innocent

terse jackal
#

I just have no idea how to build a custom fan curve that’s like way out of my depth

#

I can reapply thermal paste and undo some screws but eeeek with the software stuff

cyan ravine
#

It's a bit of trial and error, but very straightforward

#

You can hammer it out honestly in a minute or two

terse jackal
cyan ravine
#

Ye

#

So I'd just say after about 73C the fans should be up fairly high by then

#

Then I wouldn't be too worried

#

Apart from that one point, set it up how you like

limber oyster
#

What's a good itx case that can fit into a small backpack? I looked into the revolt 3, but it looks a bit thick. Under $200 preferably

cyan ravine
#

Terra?

#

or go even smaller to a minisforum

limber oyster
#

Here's my build I'm looking at

mossy venture
#

If gaming, 6700xt. If tasks that require nvidia gpu, 4060 is same price as 3060 12gb

#

Also same specced oloy kit of ram is $55

#

For same color

limber oyster
#

Star craft, Forza horizon 5, cyberpunk, and Warframe at medium to high graphics, 1080p, 60fps max

mossy venture
#

6700xt would do miles better

#

For $20 more

limber oyster
#

I'd rather the RTX for cyberpunk...personal preference

#

I did debate Radeon, ngl

mossy venture
#

3060 won't do rtx

cyan ravine
#

rtx on CP with a 3060 sounds like murder

#

unadulterated, uncensored

#

pure death

limber oyster
#

Ok

#

4060 maybe?

#

Trying to keep the build under $1100

cyan ravine
#

and have rtx and sff?

limber oyster
#

Yes

cyan ravine
#

I think you gotta draw the line somewhere lol

#

RT on anything sub 3080/4070 is not a good time tbh

limber oyster
#

I have been wanting to up my 3080 to a 4090/7900xtx, might reuse that

limber oyster
cyan ravine
#

at that point I think I'd take 1440p

limber oyster
#

Thing is in taking this to travel so...

mossy venture
limber oyster
#

Hotel TV is why I'm saying 1080p

#

Very few go higher

cyan ravine
#

4070 works

#

I would go used 3080 tho

limber oyster
#

Hence, itx build

cyan ravine
#

better value

limber oyster
#

Get a sapphire nitro+ for my home PC and reuse my Strix 3080?

cyan ravine
#

that would be preferable imo

#

strix is a fairly short 3080 too iirc

#

like 330mm

limber oyster
#

I just hope I have the screws for the stock cooler still....

cyan ravine
#

did you not screw the cooler back together before you put it away?

limber oyster
#

Wouldn't fit in the box I put the cooler in when I put it in storage

#

Didn't reuse the stock box since cat ...ruined it

cyan ravine
#

I see

#

ok

limber oyster
#

I know I put the screws with the cooler

cyan ravine
#

well hopefully it's all in a bag or something

#

lol

limber oyster
#

But I haven't opened the box in a while

brittle tinsel
#

I don’t know the exact processor yet but was wondering If 520 watts would be enough to handle an 1151 socket and an rx570? Installing a gpu for a friend and they don’t know the processor. I could just remove rhe cooler I guess but I don’t have anything on hand to remove old thermal paste

#

I know just the socket doesn’t help much, I’m mainly looking for the highest possible power draw from that socket

dusky hearth
mossy venture
#

Yeah I'd be weary of the model, but as long as it's not terrible it should handle a 570 and then some

limber oyster
#

Avoid thermaltake PSUs

#

I used a 500w 80+ white thermaltake PSU before, it caught fire. Warrentied four times. Each one burst

cyan ravine
#

Well yes, the thermaltake whites are well known for being computer bonfires with zero protection

#

Pretty much bottom of the barrel there

#

💀

mossy venture
cyan ravine
#

There are plenty of good thermaltake psus too yeah

#

Like GF3

brittle tinsel
#

I’ll do some looking on it, but I’ve never heard of it

mossy venture
#

Mm, id be weary

brittle tinsel
# mossy venture Mm, id be weary

Gpu and cpu only pull full power if being used at 100% right? If so it should be fine, they only plan on playing roblox and Minecraft. I’m giving them the 570 cause I have em laying around and don’t need em so figured they could use it rather than pay for one

mossy venture
#

Yeah that should be fine

round cloud
#

What should I do with my prebuilt i5/2070 rig with a broken side panel? It’s an ibuypower pc. No replacements available.

Should I put the pc in a new case and sell it whole, or part it out

little osprey
#

Most pre-builts have a lot of undesirable parts like the PSU or mediocre RAM (Just making assumptions) and the average person realistically only would want one specific part from such a rig

mossy venture
round cloud
#

Kk

#

This is exciting

terse jackal
#

Budget $400 - Need GPU
Notes: I do not care if it's AMD or Nvidia but I think I slightly prefer Nvidia.
Wants: Not ugly, Fast Shipping, I will do used HWS or eBay, Prefer new.
Needs: To be an upgrade. I don't wanna same level GPU as the 2080S I have.

fringe iris
mossy venture
#

There's open box 3080s from zotac on ebay for $400-420

mossy venture
terse jackal
#

Stay away from Blowers right?

mossy venture
#

I dont think there are any blower 3080s, but one sec I'll find you a link

fringe iris
#

Is 13600k worth the upgrade from 12600k? I have all ddr4 in my pc right now i was thinking of upgrading to ddr5 possibly a 13700k bundle.. hopefully around cyber monday - black friday sales

mossy venture
# terse jackal Stay away from Blowers right?
mossy venture
#

And if you change mobos/ram, go for the 7800x3d or 7600

terse jackal
fringe iris
#

Yeah im just gaming.. why would it be pointless if I ask?

mossy venture
#

Yeah thats fine

terse jackal
#

Wait no returns though

mossy venture
fringe iris
#

Ahh gotcha Thank you

mossy venture
#

One sec

mossy venture
#

And do you plan to soon, or waiting a while?

fringe iris
#

About $500 something ive seen bundles on microcenter for that price

#

With ram.. cpu and motherboard.. i was thinking probably about cyber monday and Black Friday time

mossy venture
#

Oh, 7700x bundle for $400

#

You can sell your 12600k for $150, mobo for atleast $100, and ram for atleast $50

#

If you're near an mc you won't get better than that 7700x b650 32gb ddr5 bundle

fringe iris
#

My microcenter is about an hour drive i have about 3 near me so that would work

mossy venture
#

Nice

fringe iris
#

Thats a good deal too

#

Thanks!

mossy venture
#

Yeah its the best price/perf you can find rn

#

7800x3d alone is $370 minimum lmao

fringe iris
#

Jeez.. is ryzen better for gaming? I thought intel was leading

mossy venture
#

It switches, when 7000 series and 13th gen were still early 13th gen was better price/perf

#

But now for gaming am5 is all around better

#

For multi core tasks 13th gen is better

fringe iris
#

Good to know, thanks do you have that link?

mossy venture
#

For the 7700x bundle?

fringe iris
#

Yeah

fringe iris
#

Thank you!!

mossy venture
#

And that mobo would be fine for a next gen x3d chip very likely, like an 8800x3d whenever those come out

terse jackal
#

@mossy venture how's a Asrock 6700 XT

mossy venture
#

Good for $320 max new, $250 max used

nova apex
#

i have everything except my cpu, is it ok to install stuff on motherboard then when i get my cpu i install that or should i wait till i have everything

mossy venture
#

Yeah thats fine

nova apex
#

is my mb safe to sit out?

#

cuz isn’t like static bad?

mossy venture
#

Nah you're good

pseudo forge
#

Need help struggling to get my 4080 into my mobo

#

It’s not clicking in

dusky hearth
pseudo forge
#

Yes

#

It’s just not sitting in from the other side

dusky hearth
#

you might have to do a small amount of wiggling, there are holes in the case for the pcie slot side to go in

#

but you might not have aligned it correctly

#

try to insert the card closer to the case

pseudo forge
#

I feel like I need to wiggle it a little but afraid what if the PCB cracks

#

Think it’s in lol

dusky hearth
terse jackal
#

Okay someone sent me "I got them second hand off someone on Reddit about a year ago or less. Used as for renting gpu power for under 5 months, thermals replaced to improve longevity, and mined during the downtime with strict thermal limits. After 5 months they were just put in storage"

For a 3080 gaming x trio. Should I stay away? - $440.

mossy venture
#

440 is overpriced for a 3080 10gb

terse jackal
# mossy venture 440 is overpriced for a 3080 10gb

This was his response to me saying that’s too high “Eh MSI is prob one of the best brands now that EVGA is out of the game. They offer replacements for $55 if anything goes wrong in the future. And This 3080 wasn’t used for much either”

mossy venture
#

Then not the right seller for you

#

You might have more luck with r/hardwareswap if you have a reddit account

#

For $440 I'd spend an extra $60 for a new 7800xt which outperforms a 3080 10gb

terse jackal
#

Why is a Thermalright Frozen Notte 240 $53 compared to every single other cooler for like $89-$150 at the same 240

#

It’s so highly recommended but also cheap and i know expensive doesn’t equal better but that’s a large price gap

dusky hearth
#

low cost automation

terse jackal
#

But is it that good

mossy venture
#

notte is a great aio

terse jackal
#

Like for my Ryzen 7 5800x is it really going to get the job done

mossy venture
#

incredible for the price

#

it competes with some of the best aios out there

terse jackal
#

Because they run HOT

dusky hearth
#

5800x is hot?

terse jackal
#

Yes

dusky hearth
#

well, hot, idk if it's HOT

mossy venture
#

it is

terse jackal
#

It’s definitely HOT 😂

mossy venture
#

as hot as the 5950x

terse jackal
#

But if the notte can get it cooler than I’m down to purchase that but if it’s going to give me the same temps as I’m already getting or greater less than 5c difference if rather get an ugly LF2

dusky hearth
#

but it's like, limited to under 200w due to am4 or smth right? i dont remember

mossy venture
#

if you want better temps without needing as big of a case, 240mm notte is fine

terse jackal
#

I would but my budget bro

#

I need a GPU

mossy venture
#

notte 360 is $73 iirc

#

there's some fairly cheap cases that'll fit that

#

don't need any additional fans either

terse jackal
#

I wonder if h60 Corsair aio or if the notte will better cool it

#

I just wish i could know without committing

teal dome
#

Look up tier list of aios or@some

mossy venture
#

the h60 is 120mm

#

120mm aios are generall worse or similar to $20 single tower coolers

#

240mm aios as long as they aren't trash are similar to dual tower coolers

#

which is a huge difference

#

@terse jackal

#

you could also get a $35 air cooler and be fine

terse jackal
#

Ah i see

#

So it’s really because i only have a 120 rather than a 240

terse jackal
#

Thermalright is great i know that but i definitely want water

manic cloak
#

Is the sapphire pulse or xfx 6700xt better?

#

Just for cooling and etc, ik same performance

earnest olive
#

which xfx?

dusky hearth
#

overclocking? or nah
if not, they should both perform approximately the same tbh

also there are 2 fan and 3 fan versions and different models

manic cloak
#

And it’s the uhh

#

@earnest olive

earnest olive
#

swft 309 should be more premium than the pulse

#

sapphire and xfx are both great AIBs

manic cloak
#

An

#

An

#

AH**

lyric thistle
#

An...

slow valve
slow valve
#

yup

little osprey
#

No reason to go 4070 for gaming

#

Realistically better suited as a workstation GPU

mossy venture
slow valve
#

My friend is the one who sent me the list, I'm not the one buying or building it

little osprey
#

I just realized

mossy venture
little osprey
#

MFW 650W on 4070

mossy venture
#

Oh also do you alr have a monitor?

mossy venture
#

4070 pulls like 190w?

little osprey
#

I guess

#

How much does 13700K draw?

slow valve
little osprey
#

Also why 13700K for gaming?

slow valve
#

Doesn't care for asthetics and WiFi would be nice, he doesn't have a monitor for it yet

mossy venture
#

Alr and total budget?

#

Including monitor

slow valve
#

around 2k

mossy venture
#

Oh sick, kk

#

Oh wait one more question

#

Microcenter accessible?

slow valve
#

microcenter is accessible

mossy venture
#

Even better, 7700x bundle there for $400

#

That for cpu, mobo, and ram

mossy venture
#

If wanting cheaper, one sec

#

Wait that needs a cooler, sorry

#

Then if they want cheaper, I'd drop gpu to 6950xt/6900xt/7800xt

#

All of those gpus beat the 4070

slow valve
#

Thanks!

#

I'll run them by him

mossy venture
#

If he has any questions feel free to ask here or dm me

round cloud
#

Somewhat ironically I end up with a more powerful build by going compact, since I’m not chasing the 7700x MicroCenter bundle

mossy venture
#

I'd spend $5 more for xpg core reactor 850 just bc it's $5, so more headroom

#

I would still recommend the 7700x bundle, it's just such better value, but if you're set on 7800x3d so be it

#

Otherwise build looks fine

round cloud
vague oracle
#

$550 for cheapest 4070, $630 for cheapest 6950

#

Unless you buy used

mossy venture
#

But yeah, 6950xt pricing kinda mid rn

brittle tinsel
#

Got around to working on that computer today and there is no PCIE cable, the pcie port on the psu has also been tapped off???
The psu is a sea sonic ss-520gm active pfc f3 (m12II-520bronze)

Can someone help me find a pcie cable to order for it? I tried but I’m on mobile right now and no luck…

#

Doesn’t need to be fancy just a working, comparable 8 pin

cyan ravine
#

That sort of thing would be fancy because it needs a specific pin layout from the psu

#

You don't pick the exact right one? Card or psu will commit aliven't

brittle tinsel
#

Is it normal to see the unused cable ports on the psu tapped off with electrical tape? First time I’ve seen that

potent portal
#

Not exactly "normal" but it doesn't hurt anything

potent portal
#

M12II 520 is yours

potent portal
#

We require more minerals

lone flame
#

but my friend who has money but like no pc knowledge

potent portal
#

StarCraft. I'm old.
What's up

lone flame
#

asked me for a list

#

budget of like 3k lmao

#

just for gaming

#

so im assuming r7 7800x3d 4090 right

potent portal
#

Including monitor and peripherals?

lone flame
potent portal
#

Yeah probably x3d and 4090

lone flame
#

ever since i built my PC all i watch now is tech videos on pc parts

#

and i feel no smarter

#

lol

potent portal
#

Tech is one of those things where the more you learn, the more you realize how little you know

#

I'll throw a list together after I get a snack

lone flame
potent portal
dusky hearth
#

every time you feel like you've figured out tech you find out theres at least 10 more layers

#

💀

potent portal
#

Then there's quantum, where the number of layers depends on who and when the state is observed

lone flame
#

doesnt have to have crazy rgb

#

prob just some nice fans

#

case shouldnt really matter, prob something nice like lian li, nzxt or smth idk

potent portal
#

If he really wanted you can swap the 7800X3D for the 7950X3D, and still be under budget

#

Not much point unless he mostly plays cs:go

lone flame
#

i sent it to him and hes like it'd be cool in white

#

i asked him

#

and he said whatever was fine

lone flame
potent portal
#

The 7950X3D has a second CCD with traditional cores, not vcache ones

potent portal
lone flame
#

as in like 90% of how PCs look like now lol

cyan ravine
#

Ah yes the expensive for no reason pc

potent portal
#

Good old white tax time

cyan ravine
#

That's a real case btw LOL

lone flame
#

it'd annoy me after like 5 mins

#

but it'd be cool for the first 5

cyan ravine
#

So true

#

That's the ultimate goal for rgb people tho

#

Pop a build like that in a corsair or razer server they'd go NUTS

lone flame
#

theres def a limit to rgb that i will go

#

like sometimes ill shut my pc rgb off

#

cause i just dont feel like it

#

but i appreciate having something that looks nice to me

potent portal
#

You're going to hate me for this list

cyan ravine
#

But go on

potent portal
potent portal
cyan ravine
#

Tbh

#

To be joenest

#

Maybe not the $120 ssd tho

potent portal
#

Wait what

cyan ravine
#

P41 is 120 rn for some reason

potent portal
#

Yo that was $75 a minute ago

cyan ravine
#

Kekw

dusky hearth
#

💀

cyan ravine
#

But yeah that, then a vertical mount kit

#

And a cablemod set of extensions including a 3 to 1 12vhpwr adapter

#

That would basically cover everything

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

Maybe thermalright frozen notte if you wanted an aio

#

Oh yeah ik

#

But yk how it is with aesthetic builds

#

Lol

#

Depends where you'd draw the line

potent portal
#

It wasn't even supposed to be an aesthetic build until he saw the O11D lol

cyan ravine
#

Then wat r u doin lad

potent portal
#

He saw the O11D and decided "ooh prettty"

dusky hearth
#

Can we wipe their memory

cyan ravine
#

I lovehate my o11 evo

#

It's great to build in

#

But so mid

cyan ravine
#

So so mid

#

And yet I have 2 of them

#

Cos functionally they're stupidly practical

potent portal
# cyan ravine So so mid

It really is. Builds like this hurt my soul. I'm a function over form guy, eternally. If it works the way I want I don't care how it looks.

dusky hearth
#

You know what else is stupidly practical

potent portal
#

Sacrificing performance for looks is blasphemy to me

dusky hearth
#

A motherboard box

#

Return to box

cyan ravine
#

Yeah until you get to like, the high high end

dusky hearth
#

Mod the box

cyan ravine
#

Going with anything aesthetic not some $20 to do is just a no from me dawg

dusky hearth
#

Do the modern art approach then
Hang the pc by strings from the drop ceiling

cyan ravine
potent portal
#

I'd be perfectly happy with a homemade plywood case, with lots of ventilation ofc

cyan ravine
dusky hearth
#

Lmfao

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

AAAAA

dusky hearth
#

This one even has the monitor 💀

#

It wasn't the one I was referencing but same thing basically

cyan ravine
#

Yes there's another one

#

I know both

potent portal
dusky hearth
#

this is the specific one i was referencing

#

hdd hung like it's being crucified

cyan ravine
potent portal
#

I saw that lol

#

Cursed office closet

dusky hearth
#

they're hanging a display like a painting

dusky hearth
cyan ravine
#

I love how you can see the scissors on the desk

dusky hearth
potent portal
#

Here's a good one

cyan ravine
#

Like he just finished trimming shoe laces

dusky hearth
#

average "the office" prank

cyan ravine
#

COATHANGERS LMFAO

dusky hearth
#

damn somebody stole your computer, but just the case

cyan ravine
#

You thought itx was the most practical pc did ya

#

Wait till you see

#

Dry cleaner compatible pc

dusky hearth
#

💀

#

i would like my cables starched please

potent portal
#

Someone call an exorcist

dusky hearth
#

they hung the case as well 💀

potent portal
#

They're putting a lot of faith in the sata cables

cyan ravine
#

Wtf those hard drives are parachuting in

#

IKR LMAO

dusky hearth
#

day traders when buying mcdonalds stock

jagged ember
weak flint
#

but highly doubt it

#

but at that point without the ks should just go for the x3d

cyan ravine
#

that or a cheaper psu and a Hyte Y40

weak flint
#

just put the Phanteks AMP v2

#

its A tier and cheaper and white

cyan ravine
#

it won't fit in a mini

weak flint
#

why put a black psu on a white build lol

cyan ravine
#

cos no white and sfx

#

get a cable kit for $20

#

💀

weak flint
#

the one in the pic isnt a mini tho

#

is it?

cyan ravine
#

it takes only sfx psus

#

sir, my selection

weak flint
#

oi not bad now

#

$50 difference

cyan ravine
#

there's zero point to a KS

weak flint
#

i mean still isnt it the best in gaming?

cyan ravine
#

if you aren't doing like direct die or sub ambient they clock the same as pretty much any K orKF

#

no I'm saying it's a waste of extra funds

#

unless you know how to OC with one

#

It's not a layman choice

weak flint
#

fair

cyan ravine
#

which applies to maybe the 5% who get their hands on one

#

kek

weak flint
#

that white lian li mini reminds me of this

cyan ravine
#

yeah it would look good with the dual aio's in their perfect slots

#

💀

#

or this

#

that would be white overload

weak flint
#

god damn is this overpriced af

#

but yeah it looks really clean

cyan ravine
#

why-

#

why call it a mclaren build

#

it looks so good but they ruined it by calling it a collab and putting one gif in the aio

#

calling it a day

#

jfc that's so expensive for those specs

weak flint
#

yeah

#

i mean the monitor is like 1k or something

cyan ravine
#

one sec ryn

round cloud
#

Should I just get the 360 aio for the ap201? Every build pic I’ve seen has psu in middle slot, leaving room for the 360. Wouldn’t it be wasted space to only use a 240?

cyan ravine
#

I'll show you what fastest looks like

cyan ravine
#

a level deeper would be full water with the bykski(?) hof

#

and a direct die block

#

you'd be looking at like, 6.5GHz gaming, 8000+ mem, prolly CL36 or better

#

and a card that could by all accounts go nuts

#

that would be fastest by right

dusky hearth
#

Mclaren would be cool if they allowed you to mod

cyan ravine
#

but if you aren't getting a cpu that needs it I wouldn't be bothered

#

but I mean

#

a good frozen thermalright is under 80$ either way

dusky hearth
#

Wait
That was Ferrari

cyan ravine
#

small price bump for 360mm so

weak flint
cyan ravine
#

up to you @round cloud

dusky hearth
#

Nvm Mclaren is cool now

dusky hearth
#

Lmfao

cyan ravine
#

but those would be the best possible parts

#

bar the case

#

case is always whatever

#

it's a box

dusky hearth
#

Motherboard box superiority

cyan ravine
#

indeed

#

in this case yes, most OC'ers would

weak flint
nova apex
#

does this look installed right? seemed like it took some force when i did

potent portal
#

It's hard to tell much from that angle but it looks ok from what I can see

#

It does take a little force, and you get a nice "click" usually when it's in

manic cloak
#

What’s the best 7800xt model under 500$?

#

Like 499.99

cyan ravine
#

the cheapest one

terse jackal
#

If I order a EVGA FRW3 3080 and a Corsair CX-M 750w will i get all the cables I need to power the GPU?

cyan ravine
#

why cxm?

terse jackal
#

No special reason

cyan ravine
#

what's the price

#

👀

terse jackal
#

$60 refurbished

#

Newegg eBay

cyan ravine
#

what cpu again have you got

terse jackal
#

Ryzen 7 5800x

cyan ravine
#

how much is the 3080?

terse jackal
#

$470 (little high) coulda waited for a $400 deal

cyan ravine
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yeah a little high

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if you got a 2x8 pin 3080 instead I think you'd be fine

terse jackal
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It’s too late for all that

cyan ravine
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but 3x8...I think you'd want an 850w if you did cxm

terse jackal
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Will there be problems with a 750

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Is there a better power supply option at 750 like brand wise