No doubt that 1000W is good but, very very overkill here
#building-and-recc-chat
cyan ravine
sage mountain
Agreed
teal dome
No doubt that 1000W is good but, very very overkill here
What tier is it?
mossy venture
b
cyan ravine
You could realistically run off a good 550W here
teal dome
Oh nice
potent portal
850W is good for a 4090 and 13700k
sage mountain
You could realistically run off a good 550W here
Oh for sure but i know in the future i will upgrade CPU and motherboard and get an actual aio too
teal dome
What is the cheapest modular psu? Like maybe 600-750watt
cyan ravine
Think about those things when you need to upgrade
sage mountain
Bc im using the stock fan that came with my Ryzen 7
cyan ravine
What is the cheapest modular psu? Like maybe 600-750watt
I think the prestige is modular
teal dome
I think the prestige is modular
No sadly
sage mountain
And im using fully modular psu too
cyan ravine
Hm
obsidian wigeon
prestige isn't modular
teal dome
It’s non modular
cyan ravine
Then prolly the thermaltake
dusky hearth
Fully non modular
cyan ravine
I generally suggest 650w
sage mountain
I generally suggest 650w
That’s honestly for any build imo
cyan ravine
But a solid top tier would do 550w
mossy venture
My builds gonna be 6700xt and a 5600
would be fine on a good 450w, but apevia prestige 600w would be the minimum worth buying rn
teal dome
would be fine on a good 450w, but apevia prestige 600w would be the minimum wort...
True I’ll go 600w but I don’t wanna cable manage allat lol
sage mountain
But thanks for the help y’all!!!!
cyan ravine
Buying modular just for the sake of packing cables is pointless imo
Get a 2$ pack of zip ties
mossy venture
could also do msi 650 abn, but still non mod i think
cyan ravine
Tie up all the loose ends
dusky hearth
Tie up all the loose ends
Silence all witnesses
cyan ravine
The non modulars can fold up and tidy up sometimes better than modulars
sage mountain
Usually comes with zip ties and Velcro straps
cyan ravine
Silence all witnesses
Kill all the squealers
dusky hearth
cyan ravine
But thanks for the help y’all!!!!
It's all good my guy. Just for sanity's sake do a DDU if you haven't already
?ddu
jolly riverBOT
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
cyan ravine
Just because nvidia can be extremely dumb sometimes
teal dome
What bot?
cyan ravine
And can cause even the most unexplainable problems
teal dome
I have it blocked
cyan ravine
Dyno
teal dome
I wanna see the message
cyan ravine
It's dyno
teal dome
Ok I unlocked
teal dome
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manic cloak
@earnest olive or @obsidian wigeon I believe I was talking to you about the 6800xt at 429.99 vs 629.99 6950xt?
What’s the opinion on this https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-6800-xt-axrx-6800xt-16gbd6-3dhr-oc/p/N82E16814131769
Premium starfield, 512gb p41 ssd, all for 485$
Actually ngl that’s a stupid question, 7800xt 10$ more 💀
mossy venture
Premium starfield, 512gb p41 ssd, all for 485$
Can do 1tb p41 plus and it's $497
mossy venture
Hey guys is 3 fans better than 2 on a GPU?
It depends on the specific gpu
There's two fan gpus that are better than ventus 3x
stark quail
Is that gpu fine or nah?
stark quail
The only thing I'm worried about is that it has no reviews so idk if I should buy it
stark quail
Oh really
mossy venture
Shipped and sold by wegg, you're good
mossy venture
It's the best priced gpu aside from maybe 7900xtx in 40/7000 series
stark quail
I see
little osprey
Well I saw this https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-7800-xt-21330-01-20g/p...
I like the look of that card
Would match my blackout theme I'm going for well
dusky hearth
if i had to pick between the two, the abs one would be better
dusky hearth
yeah more expensive and has 4070 non ti, and same cpu as the abs one, worse cooling probably, but more storage lmao
cyan ravine
JP that u?
neon zephyr
worse cooling because its larger?
neon zephyr
JP that u?
yes, I got removed from mod position
cyan ravine
neon zephyr
@bitter mason petitioned to remove me
dusky hearth
def real jp
lyric thistle
fr
nova apex
is intel i5 12400f stock cooler good i’ve been told it’s better to get a actual cooler, but if there’s no difference then i wanna use stock
nova apex
is intel i5 12400f stock cooler good i’ve been told it’s better to get a actual ...
for games like gta, sea of thieves etc
mossy venture
is intel i5 12400f stock cooler good i’ve been told it’s better to get a actual ...
It's fine for gaming as long as you have decent airflow
nova apex
how do i know i have good airflow? (sorry for stupid questions i’m new)
potent portal
If you have at least 3 mostly unobstructed fans you're probably good
nova apex
mossy venture
Yeah you're fine
And nice build, could easily upgrade gpu without any issues later on whenever you feel the need to
mossy venture
Nah not at all, everything looks really nice
manic cloak
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8TZ8YN
No wifi on board btw
Unless you’re strict ethernet then you’re fine
nova apex
i have ethernet
manic cloak
Okok 👍
dusky hearth
if you need bluetooth you'll need to buy a bluetooth adapter
nova apex
i was talking to other friends, would matx be okay or should i get a atx
dusky hearth
either one will work
atx sometimes has more io on the board though
though sometimes its the same
using a matx board in an atx case however may look kinda strange
if you care about how your pc looks
manic cloak
For the one you have nik it’s better than most
Some only have 1 m.2, yours has 2/3
- I think you have a usb c header
nova apex
if i don’t care about looks, should i just keep the one i have then?
cyan ravine
i was talking to other friends, would matx be okay or should i get a atx
Nowadays atx is very much irrelevant for current gen
Unless you have a specific niche need
Like for example a tall case for a thick gpu (but this doesn't mean you need an atx mobo anyway)
cyan ravine
if i don’t care about looks, should i just keep the one i have then?
Yes
mATX is generally cheaper for the same outcome
Or rather
Same outcome except for those niche needs I mentioned
A bit like, if you needed a lot of usb? That sort of need
nova apex
A bit like, if you needed a lot of usb? That sort of need
but i can easily get more usb ports with an extension cord
cyan ravine
Ye
Oh it's not quite the same as usb
But that same sort of need
Pcie slots can be useful
nova apex
i just want something better than my dell pc😭 which has a 1050 in it…
nova apex
everything except MB and CPU is bought
nova apex
and plan is to buy those on monday so i’ll have everything
cyan ravine
Ur fine, not too bad tbh
Maybe consider a different case next
Nzxt cases are just ovens
nova apex
so temps will be high your saying?
obsidian wigeon
not really with these parts
but they do get more toasty compared to better cases
nova apex
good to hear
cyan ravine
Yeah not really rn
But definitely down the line you'll wanna change it
I know people that have had as much as 20C drops from switching off h510's
Oh wait
WAIT SORRY
nova apex
i’m so confused
nova apex
i’m new to the pc building world, i don’t know what that means anyways
cyan ravine
Sorry there's another list in general chat with a 2080 and a h510
I thought that was yours for a minute my bad
nova apex
you’re good
nova apex
i was so confused when u said nzxt
obsidian wigeon
just a tad too expensive these days but it's okay
nova apex
i was like that’s corsair tho 😭
obsidian wigeon
i prefer fractal pop air
nova apex
factual pop air?
obsidian wigeon
just $89.99 for three rgb fans included
nova apex
fractal
cyan ravine
i was like that’s corsair tho 😭
Lol mb
formal girder
I told them about it when they sent the pic but they never sent an updated one
pseudo pollen
looks like a lower power gpu tho, so might not need it
mossy venture
It wouldn't run without it
little osprey
are there any mother boards that support wifi 7 (802.11 be) yet on newegg?
little osprey
Since I don't seem to find wifi 7 supported motherboards on Newegg (or are there any at all?)
covert vapor
Wifi 7 isn't even a thing yet for a couple of companies. Chill
Like MSI just released their first ones two days ago
little osprey
Yeah they are still on preorder on Memory Express (a Canadian competitor) wouldn't expect to see them so soon
cyan ravine
Do you have a need for wifi 7?
little osprey
I heard that wifi 7 has extremely low latency and extremely high speeds so that I will get nearly zero latency if I stream on Twitch while playing a real time combat games. This is, however relies also on the router and Internet plan and wires that support it of course
mossy venture
Atp just get ethernet, no?
little osprey
Or fibre optic if I wish but unfortunately my ISP doesn't provide that
weary galleon
if you don't have fibre I highly doubt wifi7 will be any benefit over 6
little osprey
Blame Shaw. they don't have FTTH in BC Canada
weary galleon
also if latency is a worry yeah ethernet is probably best
I get that's not always possible tho
little osprey
the problem is the ISP (Shaw) modem is in the living room on the ground and the gaming room is very far from that and I cannot put my desktop case to the ground
mossy venture
Can route it through the wall, but that might be costly
But so is a whole new mobo for wifi 7
potent portal
the problem is the ISP (Shaw) modem is in the living room on the ground and the ...
Powerline ethernet can be good if the primary concern is latency. It's not as good as a straight wire run but it's way better than wifi
The speed you get depends on the quality and age of your home's electrical wiring. I get about 120Mb in my 90s apartment but I've seen people push over 1Gb in newer homes (2010+)
jaunty nacelle
whats up with this
potent portal
Looks like a video decoder error of some kind
Often caused by a bad driver or a bad memory overclock
If it's only in that video file it might be a codec issue
potent portal
What GPU? You can try turning off hardware acceleration and see if it goes away
jaunty nacelle
6750 xt
potent portal
I know a couple of the more recent driver versions have had some issues for AMD
potent portal
You can try version 23.8.1 or 23.7.1, making sure to use the "clean install" option
(Before someone jumps in and says DDU, that doesn't work well on AMD cards right now)
jaunty nacelle
it happened occasionally too for me on 23.8.1
potent portal
Yeah that version was the second one that was problematic. Less problems than 23.7.2 at least, but 23.7.1 worked the best for people I've seen.
If it's mostly during video playback then turning off hardware acceleration is still a viable option
jaunty nacelle
You can try version 23.8.1 or 23.7.1, making sure to use the "clean install" opt...
factory reset is grayed
potent portal
Right they did disable that at some point, as a partial band aid for some of the known issues
Try without the factory reset and if it doesn't work we'll explore other options
jaunty nacelle
kthx ill see how it is after install
little osprey
looking to purchase a good 1440p monitor probably order 2 of them any recommendations
jolly riverBOT
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
jaunty nacelle
potent portal
DS4windows is deprecated, it's been replaced by Steam primarily
But what I think is going on is task manager is reading the CPU stats wrong
potent portal
Have you updated bios
zenith cargo
Have you updated bios
yea
like a few months ago
2 i think
oh theres a bios update available
primal linden
ist gud?
stark quail
is the r7 5800x compatible with a 7800xt?
potent portal
is the r7 5800x compatible with a 7800xt?
yes
stark quail
oh okay sheesh i got scared for a sec lmao
primal linden
why
stark quail
i asked help for a gpu and i said the wrong cpu
i said r7 3800x
and i just realized i have a 5800x
potent portal
The GPU doesn't care what the CPU is. You can run it on a second gen i3. It wouldn't run very well, but it would be compatible as long as the motherboard has a PCIe slot.
primal linden
stark quail
ohhhh okay
primal linden
the gpu doesn’t care
primal linden
That one's ok iirc, not spectacular but good
ok
stark quail
whats a good mob for the two?
potent portal
If you want to overclock, something B550 with a heatsink on the VRM.
If you don't care to overclock the CPU, save money and go A520, but you'll still want that heatsink because the 5800X can draw a lot of power.
stark quail
umm does the steel legend b550 have a heatsink?
potent portal
Yes
stark quail
bet
potent portal
These
potent portal
Same deal, it has those metal pieces by the CPU. That's the heatsink for the power system.
potent portal
That's an A tier VRM too on that board, so it'll be great for overclocking
potent portal
also is it better to have 32g of ram with 2 sticks or 4
2 sticks
primal linden
does the TUF b550 have a good vrm
potent portal
Which tuf, there's like 6
stark quail
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GkJgXL/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-g...
wtfff thats cheap asffff
primal linden
Tuf gaming b550 plus
potent portal
Dirt cheap, ever since DDR5 launched it's been dropping like a stone
stark quail
is ddr5 worth?
potent portal
You'd need another CPU and motherboard to use DDR5
potent portal
Tuf gaming b550 plus
TUF Plus is A tier
primal linden
ok
stark quail
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GkJgXL/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-g...
is there any good ones that have rgb?
ik itll bring up the price a bit but yk im a sucker for rgb
teal dome
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7RYcf/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-d...
Why not the oloy Warhawk?
stark quail
im sad now, when i bought my ram it was expensive lmao
potent portal
Why not the oloy Warhawk?
Do you see it cheaper than $65 somewhere? Keep in mind this is 3600 rated, and I'm showing that for a reason. That's the sweet spot for AMD.
teal dome
Do you see it cheaper than $65 somewhere? Keep in mind this is 3600 rated, and I...
My fault
Idk I thought it was cheaper
primal linden
esweeto spotto
stark quail
should i trust xmp?
teal dome
Nvm It was 16gb model
potent portal
It very well could have been cheaper at some point but it's not on pcpp right now
potent portal
Nvm It was 16gb model
ah
teal dome
I thought it was 16gb too
potent portal
should i trust xmp?
That's fine usually for general use
stark quail
mhm
potent portal
Team is a fairly trusted brand so their stuff should work. Unlike Corsair. Never get Corsair DDR4.
I've seen Corsair 3200 kits fail to even run that
potent portal
That's exactly what they want you to think
potent portal
There's things that Corsair is good at, like mice and some fans, but their software is also garbage
primal linden
are their cases and psu’s good atleast
potent portal
The PSUs are often top tier
potent portal
All of the RM series in particular are A tier units
primal linden
companies just can’t stick to 1 thing
like gigabyte
their monitors are good tho I think
potent portal
It's hit or miss for Gigabyte monitors
More hits than other brands at least
M27Q was the price/performance king for a long time
stark quail
so would you rec their rm 750 psu or is theres um better
potent portal
RM750 would run a 4090, unless you paired it with a hungry CPU like a 13900k
stark quail
i see lmao
sooo whats a good psu for the r7 5800x and 7800xt
oh wait
i have the rm750x psu
im chillin
potent portal
Even better
stark quail
at least thats what amazon is telling me lmao
it saying if i wanna give it a review on my last purchase lmao
potent portal
Nice timing on that lol
stark quail
imagine if i bought another one cuz i thought i still had my old one
thatd be rough lmao
ohhhh i got another question whats a good cpu cooler
i have this corsair one and i mean its alrightttt
potent portal
That's a tricky one. The 5800X is the hottest of it's generation.
stark quail
yeah i can tell lmao
potent portal
I have one myself and what I can recommend is first undervolting it, and seeing how the temps improve. Then decide if you want a new cooler.
stark quail
uhhhh could i get some examples lmao
potent portal
It's pretty easy. On the overclocking menu you can set the CPU core voltage mode to offset mode, sign negative, then highlight the voltage field and hit +
Then you test to see how temps improve and if it's stable
potent portal
On my 5800X I was able to do a boost override of +200 and -.0125 volts
-.025 worked but I lost performance
If you don't increase the boost override with PBO then you should be able to drop the voltage even more
stark quail
oh okay okay
damn it i had another question but i forgot it
oh since im getting the 7800xt what do you think i should sell my 2070s at
im probably gonna get like $10 out of it now huh
primal linden
isn’t it a good gpu
potent portal
They're currently selling at $130-160 on ebay
stark quail
They're currently selling at $130-160 on ebay
sigh* i knew it
potent portal
A couple sold at 170
stark quail
isn’t it a good gpu
yeah but i wanna run games at 1440p 144hz
and basically everything maxed out
so yeah
potent portal
The problem is the 2070 super loses to the 6600 XT and the 7600
potent portal
That comparison is a bloodbath lol
Not even close
Not even in production apps that can use the cuda cores
stark quail
my only worry is, how bad the bugs are gonnna be on the 7800xt
potent portal
AMD has been mostly decent lately
There's been a few isolated incidents of driver bugs, but they affect a minority of people
stark quail
sheeeeeesh you dont know how much weight you just lifted off my shoulders lmao
primal linden
i spent 400 on that lmao
did you get use out of it
stark quail
when i was shopping for a gpu back then all i heard was amd is horrible bugs all day
stark quail
did you get use out of it
yeah i got a good while use out of it
potent portal
That was during the 5000 series AMD cards. 5700 XT in particular was really rough.
6000 solved almost everything
7000 has been great overall so far
potent portal
🙃
stark quail
i even sensored the first f
idek what i said
but damn lets go hopefully no problems come to me lmao
primal linden
honestly I wanna get a 7800 xt but when the 6800 is $400 sometimes I might settle for the 6800
potent portal
430 rn
primal linden
it was 400 like 2 days ago but it goes oos quickly
I have seen the 6800 xt at 430 tho
potent portal
Yeah inventory is drying up
potent portal
I have seen the 6800 xt at 430 tho
Probably a pricing error tbh
primal linden
most likely
charred fern
@formal girder why is only one gpu connector plugged in
formal girder
<@529575874278850571> why is only one gpu connector plugged in
this was already discussed earlier but she forgot the cable and she fixed it after i told her
charred fern
this was already discussed earlier but she forgot the cable and she fixed it aft...
Also maybe move the rear fan to the front?
formal girder
theres more on the way
teal dome
best motherboard am4,ddr4 with wifi and pcie gen 4 budget
serene onyx
3060ti is better value
Bet
My cousin wants to upgrade his graphics card
Hes using a ddr3 mobo, idk what type of thing he has for the graphics card tho 😭
Like connector
lyric thistle
power input?
serene onyx
What's the slot called for the gpu
lyric thistle
even a 3060 is probably a goofy upgrade for a computer like that
serene onyx
Yeag
Hold on
I'll send his current specs
I'm trynna atleast make it usable for him
He has a old del optiplex mobo
Idk the exact one
Rx570
And a i5-2400
With like 16 gb ddr3
lyric thistle
that's probably about as good as you should upgrade in terms of gpu
get like an i7-2700
then call it quits on upgrades at that point
lyric thistle
I mean a 2700 would make it perform a decent amount better than it can do currently
serene onyx
True
But he's trynna play high graphic intensive games
Do u think it'll help?
Idk if it would help
lyric thistle
no, it will just make the system run smoother and raise the minimum fps
serene onyx
Yeah I thought so
lyric thistle
gets the minimum closer to the average
serene onyx
Should he just upgrade his mobo and everything else at that point
lyric thistle
start anew
serene onyx
Yeah
lyric thistle
I assume it's in a dell case
serene onyx
I figured he would have too
It's in a kedier case
Rhose
Weird looking shaped one's with a open design
lyric thistle
a what now
serene onyx
lyric thistle
got a link to their product page or something lol
serene onyx
Yeah
Hold on
KEDIERS PC Case - ATX Tower Tempered Glass Gaming Computer Open Frame Case with 7 RGB Fans (White) https://a.co/d/f3wwNZO
One of these monstrosities
lyric thistle
lol
serene onyx
Yeah
There's like 10 or 11 fans shoved in his case
Idk, the dude he bought it from was probably high when he built it, and priced it
lyric thistle
I suppose if he enjoys the case he could take out the parts and build in it
serene onyx
He could
I'm sure he would wanna keep it, it's just it's kinda a pain to get everything out the case, the wiring is also all over the place
lyric thistle
cable management is fun
lyric thistle
it's not too bad if you try to enjoy it, it doesn't take me much time to get them fairly neat
serene onyx
Yeah
Anyways, I'm probably gonna tell him that he just needs to buy something better
The dude sold him the pc for like 6 or 7 hundred
lyric thistle
rip
serene onyx
The guy genuinely scammed him
lyric thistle
recently?
serene onyx
This was a while back
I even sent him a parts list to make his own pc
But he bought the pc from the guy instead
lyric thistle
I built my i5-4460 + 970 machine in like 2020
and my pc from 2015 with an i7-4790 I finally got around to putting a 970 into this year since they were super cheap
lyric thistle
I want to get an e3-1271v3 (basically a 4790) to replace the i5, and maybe another of the 16gb kits of ram I got for 32, and then I'm calling it quits until I build something new
lyric thistle
both systems would be maxxed out at that point
potent portal
Not a x79? You can buy a whole e5-1650 pc for like $125
serene onyx
Me or him
potent portal
him
serene onyx
Makes sense
potent portal
Not a x79? You can buy a whole e5-1650 pc for like $125
Or a e5-1650 v3 even, same single thread perf as the 4790 but 2 more cores
lyric thistle
I just want my machines to shine as they are to their greatest potential without changing out the mobo and such
and then I want to get an 11400 + 6700xt or soemthing lol
potent portal
For the price of a 4790k you can get a 1660v4 and a motherboard
doubles the core count
lyric thistle
I won't be buying one of those lol
even the non k is quite a bit cheaper
then the 1271 is like half that
it's a cheap upgrade
feral leaf
Hello I am new here and interested in building a pc I have watched a lot of tutorials but I want to know if pieces I have picked out are compatible with each other if anyone is kind enough to help it will be much appreciated
obsidian wigeon
sure, send us some links to the parts list
or you can trust me in making you a list that's best bang for your buck and your use case
give me a solid number on your budget and i'll make you a list
lone flame
give me a solid number on your budget and i'll make you a list
I have one actually
obsidian wigeon
?
lone flame
For a friend
feral leaf
Shared List
lone flame
Budget is 1500, besides gaming, mainly wants to use for solid works, Matlab, autocad, and general 3d modeling/engineering applications
This is what he came up with
obsidian wigeon
Shared List
https://newegg.io/de7a122
is this a gaming build?
well even for non gaming build, this is pretty overpriced
feral leaf
Ok
feral leaf
is this a gaming build?
Yes
obsidian wigeon
i'm gonna assume budget is 1300
feral leaf
It is
obsidian wigeon
alright, thanks
feral leaf
Thank you
obsidian wigeon
so the pc itself?
lone flame
Budget is 1500, besides gaming, mainly wants to use for solid works, Matlab, aut...
@potent portal if you’re awake
obsidian wigeon
no peripherals?
lone flame
I don’t want to bug foxy he’s helping someone
potent portal
I'm awake just busy, sorry
lone flame
I'm awake just busy, sorry
All good
obsidian wigeon
It is
so this is for a little bit lesser money than what you have made in newegg
and you get a much faster gpu
cpu is also better in gaming
feral leaf
Ok thank you
obsidian wigeon
or get this for focus on gpu
@lone flame https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cdc7Xk
got a list for your friend
tbf finding a used 3090 might be better buy tho lol
or 3080ti
779 for 4070ti is quite an oof price tag, even tho it's below msrp
hm discount is actually in the form of gift card
see if your friend is ok with that
it's a newegg $20 gift card
downgrade to 12700kf and you get this
fits into budget even with no promo
lone flame
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tY7Hz6
Any chance you can do one with peripherals for 1500ish
obsidian wigeon
with 1440p monitor, keeb and mouse
i still heavily recc finding a used 3080ti/3090 still
lone flame
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MKgHz6
Is the jump from a 4070 to a ti worth the price increase
It’s over 100 dollars more
obsidian wigeon
nah
but if it's not an issue 4070ti is fine, but the price is hurtful
hence i kept preaching 3090 lmao
in used form that is
cyan ravine
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Edog589/saved/Yb6H3C
yeah no
@lone flame https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YdVy4M
he wants more ram
better gpu
2 less p cores but works under an air cooler properly
proper keyboard, mouse that is often suggested for ergonomics on programs like autocad
more storage
if he needs to get a windows key the proper way, this would be the way, or harvest the key from an old optiplex, save the money and then upgrade the gpu to like a 6800XT/7800XT
7800XT would be preferable imo
not really a win in solidworks but a huge win over anything nvidia in pretty much everything else he'd want to do there
obsidian wigeon
well felix did it way better
ty
lone flame
not really a win in solidworks but a huge win over anything nvidia in pretty muc...
He said he needs an i7 to run programs or smth
mossy venture
That is not accurate, the 13600k has more cores than any i7 before 12700k
And performs better than the 12700k
lone flame
I just told him if he can stretch his budget to fit a 7800 XT on the list Felix gave he’d be fine and he said ok
I might have an old optiplex at home I can get a key from
mossy venture
If he's had a windows device before he can just login with his Microsoft account
Or can just leave windows unactivated
Or can just buy a much cheaper key for $20-30
@lone flame
cyan ravine
He said he needs an i7 to run programs or smth
i7 is just a marketing pitch, i5's nowadays slap the hell out of older i9's and i7's
mossy venture
Buying a cheaper key and going with a bit cheaper of a psu, can fit 13600kf in budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W2NF89
Though I don't know if that b660 has a bios flash button
Could just switch to this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/97rRsY/gigabyte-b760m-gaming-x-ax-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-gaming-x-ax-ddr4
dusky hearth
He said he needs an i7 to run programs or smth
there are i7's that are worse than i3's
cyan ravine
Buying a cheaper key and going with a bit cheaper of a psu, can fit 13600kf in b...
I'd opt for a 7800XT instead tho
RDNA 3 go brrr in engineering work
cyan ravine
Any reason why?
Specviewperf results are amd bias save for a few tasks, solidworks is one
Rdna 3 also comes with proper RT so it's competent in anything, and 16gb vram
mossy venture
Cool
little osprey
What do you think of the PC Part Picker site if you use it
Since the Newegg PC builder is not good enough cause it doesn't show you possible incompatible parts
potent portal
We primarily use pcpartpicker here
Which is weird since it's "technically" the newegg discord but no one here actually works for newegg except the admins
coarse coral
little osprey
Some parts are not on Newegg unfortunately such as professional sound cards with maximum sample rate of 384kHz
potent portal
Tbf a lot of those specialty parts aren't on pcpp either
But you can add them to your list still as a custom part if it's not found
little osprey
The maximum frequency a human ear can hear is ~22000Hz so probably unless one is working in studio maybe 384kHz isn't necessary?
potent portal
The sample rate has little to do with audio frequency
little osprey
Sorry I am no expert because next year when I get my first full time paid co-op as computer science student it would also be the first time for me to pick the hardware and build my own PC
potent portal
We can help pick out the parts you need, too. Just let us know specific needs, budget, and what exactly you need in addition to the PC. (headphones, DAC, monitor, etc)
little osprey
And another issue is some of the parts are from the US it would take a long time to ship to Canada and the shipping is cad 33.05
Newegg has no control over shipping unfortunately
dusky hearth
you can select the "canada" region on pcpartpicker for canadian prices
potent portal
A lot of things are still cheaper to import into canada, even after shipping costs
tawny violet
Which is weird since it's "technically" the newegg discord but no one here actua...
More like the
"Get good at PCs community" sponsored by Newegg
Remember kids
Product quality over brand loyalty
@potent portal sorry for another ping but I must ask what GPU you daily rn
potent portal
3080 ti FE
tawny violet
I see
potent portal
My full specs (and what I paid) are in my bio
primal linden
that’s convenient
dusky hearth
My specs are probably on my steam
Idk if they're updated
It is confirmed unupdated
Man the page to customize my steam profile is so laggy on mobile
viral horizon
so i opened the back panel of my case and saw a whole bunch of cords
so ill be getting my psu tomorrow and will i be plugging all those cords into my motherboard or..?
potent portal
Some of them
lone flame
I sent this list to him as a final if he wanted to stretch budget, obv he can get it closer to 1500 depending on what he does for windows https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TFYYgB
@cyan ravine ^
ty for your help
manic cloak
I sent this list to him as a final if he wanted to stretch budget, obv he can ge...
Just for games
?
lone flame
Budget is 1500, besides gaming, mainly wants to use for solid works, Matlab, aut...
@manic cloak
for a friend
besides gaming, wants to do 3dwork and stuff on it for his classes
manic cloak
Ah alright
manic cloak
<@364936187623768076>
You live near a microcenter?
teal dome
For 3d work isn’t a nvidia card better? Idk tho just a question
manic cloak
It does but
With lower tiered cards like 4060/plastic trash
It’s not worth
Plus 1500 is hard
manic cloak
He could prob get 4070?
I mean he could get that, but idk how much he’ll 3d model and etc
teal dome
I mean he could get that, but idk how much he’ll 3d model and etc
True
But If you can afford get a 4070 for 3d work
manic cloak
Cheaper?
teal dome
Idk I’m saying stuff off my head
manic cloak
Also there isn’t an F ver
If 12600
Of*
- KF means no integrated graphics
It performs as the same basically
teal dome
K is over clocks right?
fleet heron
teal dome
Also does he need all that ram
teal dome
Also there isn’t an F ver
Bro there was a really nice deal for solidgm 2tb for 65
So sad they missed it
lone flame
You live near a microcenter?
if like 3 hours is close then yes
teal dome
I picked up the 1tb for 33
teal dome
if like 3 hours is close then yes
If you can travel there for the pc then it’s worth
manic cloak
if like 3 hours is close then yes
Nah
You could get a 6950xt for 600$, kf 25$ cheaper, the montech air for 100
But imo I don’t think its worth
Ya it’s literally cost you the same price if you just got the 4070 + montech case 💀
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wkMQDZ
In this case the previous list is better
For solid works amd is actually better than nvidia, felix explained above
mossy venture
That's you, this build is for someone else
Holup you don't trust an amd gpu for solid works but you trust a gigabyte psu with their history? The model is fine but the logic doesn't really track
lone flame
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1113118801119162440/1151849675989712979/catsittinggay-1.gif
manic cloak
Holup you don't trust an amd gpu for solid works but you trust a gigabyte psu wi...
Not the amd gpu 💀
The case itself
manic cloak
And don’t say that about gigabyte psu’s, just because one was a bomb doesn’t mean the rest of them are. Technically all psus are bombs
mossy venture
I wasn't saying that, I thought you were judging 7000 series gpus based on past gpus performance in certain tasks so I was making a comparison
manic cloak
Oh 💀
Nono the gpu itself is good
Just the case is not for me personally
It just looks cheap overall
teal dome
Has any of y’all painted you guy’s gpu?
mossy venture
I think felix has, pato prolly knowns plenty about it
teal dome
My gpu is black so I could go for all black but if I paint it white I can make my whole build white
For the same price I’m pretty sure
mossy venture
Black and white build also looks pretty nice
That's what mine is if you want an example, though my cable management isn't good
teal dome
Black and white build also looks pretty nice
You sure? White components and black gpu?
mossy venture
One sec
manic cloak
White cables inside a black build is nice
Or white RGB strips
Inside an all black build
teal dome
How much is the white rgb cables?
teal dome
I like the gigabyte logo
mossy venture
How much is the white rgb cables?
Strimmers are normally pretty expensive
teal dome
Wish mine lit up
teal dome
Strimmers are normally pretty expensive
I figured so 
What about cable extensions
Normal
mossy venture
I'm not sure but I'd assume not cheap
mossy venture
That's the p360a, it's not really sold anymore since it's been replaced by the g360a
Also yeah I should but it's really annoying and I'm really good at procrastinating
teal dome
I have 6700xt
mossy venture
What model?
teal dome
I need a cpu that doesn’t bottleneck it too much
teal dome
This will still work right?
mossy venture
Yeah its supposed to look like that
Case and psu are main increases in price
Also I would still recc just buying 32gb but I put a 16gb kit in there
For black could go p200a, but also very wide
teal dome
Yeah its supposed to look like that
ok i got scared
mossy venture
And not much shorter than an matx case
teal dome
i meant the little chip
mossy venture
And then either stock or black 214xt for cooler
mossy venture
i meant the little chip
Yeah its supposed to look like that
teal dome
Yeah its supposed to look like that
it looked like it was broken so i got scared
the black part
mossy venture
I did the same thing the first time I took my gpu out lol
teal dome
For black could go p200a, but also very wide
i want it so i can prob carry it around yk?
also why not the apevia prestige
im waiting on the 5600 to go on sale so i can buy
This is nice deal, https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/996456968282162/?mibextid=6ojiHh
I could prob sell the 1660 and upgrade cpu
obsidian wigeon
raidmax psu
10400f
all that for 450 is.. a bit much
raidmax psus are a bomb lol, all of them
teal dome
the psu is thermaltake
obsidian wigeon
it said right there is raidmax, no?
obsidian wigeon
i did
gentle pollen
What 2x32gb DDR5 sticks guarantee Hynix ICs?
cyan ravine
ty for your help
Np
cyan ravine
What 2x32gb DDR5 sticks guarantee Hynix ICs?
It used to be 6000+ but not sure now
Probably still the same as 32gb kits now, just CL 32 or lower
(won't go that low at higher frequencies)
cerulean snow
anyone have a good laptop for producing music for $800
cyan ravine
anyone have a good laptop for producing music for $800
I have a good laptop in general for 800
cerulean snow
ok
cyan ravine
it'll do almost whatever you want
but you would want to upgrade the ram inside to 16gb
then it'll do basically anything
cyan ravine
np
it should be around 850-ish after the extra ram
but there really isn't anything as close to this for this price
best value laptop rn afaik
potent portal
Hey that's my board
cyan ravine
lol
potent portal
Yep. Good chance it works, it's not like Intel, the pins are on the CPU not the board.
cyan ravine
if you're considering this an upgrade to your 13600k tho it's a back step
manic cloak
I’m just looking for stuff on fbm to build for my cousin
manic cloak
I’ve alr got 20$ 16gb 3200 cl16 hyper ram
cyan ravine
beyond? my brain went beyond the plane of living just now
cyan ravine
that sounds like a good mobo
if you can get him to confirm it works that would be dope
potent portal
It is a good board, can confirm
cyan ravine
or accept it on paypal G&S and you later tell him it works or you give it back
those terms should be pretty reasonable
manic cloak
potent portal
They might have you cough up a couple extra dollars for the g&s fees
manic cloak
He’s got asus stuff in there 💀
potent portal
Yep
manic cloak
But it’s no wifi right?
manic cloak
Time to find a wifi card 😎
potent portal
Oh that's not the wifi model, ok it's not my exact board but still nice
cyan ravine
whoaaaa
obsidian wigeon
got cables with it?
cyan ravine
I'm on the fence cos it's samsung
potent portal
Why all these deals now
Amazon has a new prime day, calling it "prime big deal days"
There's some preview sales going on, it's officially oct 10
manic cloak
Amazon has a new prime day, calling it "prime big deal days"
Nono I meant like fbm
Cause up where I am
All overpriced and etc
cyan ravine
Samsung good or bad?
ok if you just want to turn on xmp
but they won't age with ddr5 well
consider it like, 2133, 2666 ddr4
from early days
teal dome
There's some preview sales going on, it's officially oct 10
Ong? Where can I see? Also deals on computer parts or not? Also you need prime right?
teal dome
All overpriced and etc
Same man I wanna try flipping but the hardware is either super old or super expensive or super far away
potent portal
It's like prime day
teal dome
So many items will be on sale? Including the pc parts?
Hope the 5600 goes on sale and motherboard with it
potent portal
I've seen some preview sales on memory so yeah pc parts should be included
teal dome
Thank you
Also sorry for asking everytime
Motherboard for am4 with WiFi
And motherboard for 12400k or 11400k depends on what goes on sale
cyan ravine
no K's at the 400 level
teal dome
Gonna make a Amazon cart list and compare prices
cyan ravine
lol all good
cyan ravine
And motherboard for 12400k or 11400k depends on what goes on sale
those need LGA 1200 or LGA 1700
so not AM4
AM4 is ryzen 1000-5000
teal dome
I meant 2 serparte lol
cyan ravine
oh i c
teal dome
Yeah imma go either 3600,5500 or 5600 for am4
cyan ravine
those would be decent ye
cyan ravine
ye
potent portal
11th gen was barely worth it when it launched. And even then only the 11600k or less was worth.
analog hearth
Didn’t 11th gen even decrease core count per CPU?
I feel like the 11th gen i5 in my work laptop should have more than 4C/8T
obsidian wigeon
no
for mobile
10/11th gen had two forms
but desktop nah
apart from i9 that dropped from 10 to 8 cores i guess
mossy venture
mossy venture
if you're gaming, 12100f
mossy venture
ye just depends on pricing
manic cloak
140$ 😭
cyan ravine
Yea no
manic cloak
It’s practically a 5600
cyan ravine
5600 would be WAY better
mossy venture
yeah nah that's awful
manic cloak
I mean I could try to get a 5600x3d for 175$ but no clue if it’s worth
mossy venture
3600 has 98% of the gaming perf and is around $80 used
manic cloak
3600?
mossy venture
ryzen 5 3600
mossy venture
f
little osprey
Is this toolkit enough for PC build for desktop
Check this out on @Newegg:Rosewill 131-Piece Precision Screwdriver Toolkit for Home/Office Electronics Repair - 120 CRV Bits, Flexible Extension Shaft, Metal Prying Knife and More for Computer and Mobile Device Fix (RTK-046) https://www.newegg.ca/rosewill-rtk-046/p/N82E16899261035?Item=N82E16899261035&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-99-261-035-_-09252023
obsidian wigeon
yes, but you don't need anything that fancy
just a phillips head does everything
dusky hearth
more than enough but i would prefer a ratcheting screwdriver
obsidian wigeon
30 bucks for that seems nice howeever
nova apex
is there a certain thermal paste i should get?
lyric thistle
The one with the tube
potent portal
The one that comes with the cooler is usually fine
potent portal
MX-6 if you want premium paste that gets you 2 degrees better, maybe
cyan ravine
mx-6 and mx-4 are basically the same price
primal linden
is TF4 paste good
dusky hearth
yes
primal linden
ok
dusky hearth
wait i thought you said taste lmfao
primal linden
is TF4 pasta good
dusky hearth
it's better than mx4
primal linden
nice
primal linden
ok
dusky hearth
liquid metal can be like 70w/mk
highest for normal thermal paste i've seen is like..... 14w/mk i think? around that
tawny violet
How is Arctic Silver 5 @dusky hearth
tawny violet
That's the claimed iirc
Ye
But apparently it's like a tenth of that in some study?
Seems legit lmao
dusky hearth
looking closer, it was a study by the US's Department of Energy, but they weren't testing it with CPUs, but automotive usage
tawny violet
Wack
Also
Apparently the MX-6 does worse than the MX-4 when the CPU's idling
But does better when under load?...
Sounds weird, wouldn't the metallic particles conduct heat the same way at all times?
dusky hearth
there is no way that it is as low as what the DoE had found for cpus because i haven't really seen any problems with it (when used for cpus)
depends, not sure
tawny violet
I start seeing Thermal Grizzly stuff around more and more here
It's more expensive than like an MX-4 or MX-6 sadly
And idk if it's better than those
dusky hearth
kyronaut is 12w/mk iirc
and conducanaut or however you spell that is like 72w/mk (it's liquid metal for that)
dusky hearth
sheesh i don't know every thermal paste LMFAO
lyric thistle
Mayonnaise
obsidian wigeon
that's for extreme oc under ln2
pseudo pollen
10/10 thermal paste
dusky hearth
hydronaut is overkill for daily
and will degrade after like a year
wait
kyronaut i mean
tawny violet
Hydronaut would last tho, wouldn't it?
tawny violet
just get mx-4
It's like
5 cents more for 4g tube of Hydronaut than a 4g tube of MX-4
primal linden
is a $1200 pc with a 6950xt possible
tawny violet
It should be
But it would be tight
You'd probably have to score the GPU used since new stocks seem to have dried up
primal linden
lemme try
tawny violet
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m7XQDZ
@yes.3548
Quick and dirty parts list
1180 USD (I'd assume you're in the US)
I think it's fairly balanced
white osprey
best deal for 1440p monitor cheap? im thinking this one https://www.microcenter.com/product/671196/hyperx-armada-27-2k-qhd-(2560-x-1440)-165hz-gaming-monitor thoughts?!