#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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what you mean lol

cyan ravine
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repaste can take as little as literally 5 minutes

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all graphics cards can ship with hotspot issues

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it's just playing the lottery on whichever you pick

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some aren't worse than others (or at least in my limited knowledge I'd say so)

little osprey
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its a non reference card i guess the handfull of reviews are just some had problems. I shouldnt take that as i will have a problem. S

cyan ravine
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yeah pretty much

little osprey
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Since its not really like the 7900xtx ref which has a few because there was a manufacture error

cyan ravine
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like I see a lot of reviews about the red devil xtx and coil whine? but then I've also met a ton of people with the red devil and they have no such issue

little osprey
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out of all the reviews like 8 total had high junction temps i would assume ASrock 7900XTX tiachi sold a decent amount so its not like everyone has that problem

cyan ravine
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yea, pretty much

little osprey
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So basiclly is the normal manufactures sometimes stuff happens and thats the reason they warrenty them

cyan ravine
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if you find your hotspot is hitting 110C though, then I'd consider warranty or return

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it's unlikely however

little osprey
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i guess i worry to much about everything lol

cyan ravine
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most XTX's operate between about, 60-ish? (water) and about 90-ish (air)

little osprey
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just want to build this PC and enjoy it

cyan ravine
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I think it's fine to be worried

little osprey
cyan ravine
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people like you that I wouldn't expect anything to break tbh

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and a Taichi is a good card

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it's a tier 1 XTX

little osprey
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yep

cyan ravine
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so highest power limit and performance

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I almost bought a white one

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costs a bit more than a nitro for white tho so I settled for a nitro+ kekw

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I've also got a merc310

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and I've talked to a LOT of XTX owners

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dozens and dozens

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it's very uncommon stuff

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most people set the card in and go and have zero issues

little osprey
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i wanted to do a Tiachi build and i heard the B650E Tiachi is a great motherboard close to the x670e minus a m.2 slot and something else

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also thas thunderbolt too

cyan ravine
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pretty much yeah

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it's excessive tho if you were buying it

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(I remember you won it)

little osprey
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yep

cyan ravine
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iirc the taichi has eclk too

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which is good for x3d overclocking

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you might want to double check that

little osprey
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as long as i dont have to worry about temp problems

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i just picked up the Corsair ICue Link kit and AIO for clean cable managment

cyan ravine
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awww no why ya done that

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reeee

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those things are mad expensive lol

little osprey
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had the money i wanted to spend with the motherboard and cpu and ram

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i dont mind honestly

cyan ravine
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icue is a pain to work with imo

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idk

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not sure about this part chief ngl DogKek

little osprey
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it can be but so is asus and all others

cyan ravine
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no like

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control modules not registering half the time you turn the pc on

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ram not showing up

little osprey
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no RGB Ram

cyan ravine
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weird features disabled for things like headsets

little osprey
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i have a full corsair ecosystem

cyan ravine
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my experience personally with icue has been terrible and I have a boatload of stuff

little osprey
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its wierd and said all software sucks in the end

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i had huge problems with Gigabyte

cyan ravine
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eh idk

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msi is pretty good

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openrgb is great

little osprey
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MSI and Corsair work great together for what i built for others

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These companies need to join up and have 1 single RGB software lol

cyan ravine
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idk chief maybe if you went to like best buy and got like a refurbished cappellix? I'd say it would be good

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cos like

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those icue link aios are like, 300 or something crazy

little osprey
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199 for a 360mm

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4 set of fans total was 150

cyan ravine
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frozen magic thermalright performance basically the same for 70 and has an infinity mirror and noctua fans

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I'm a thrift shopper my guy, it hurts my heart

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anyway

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Yeah I wouldn't stress over the taichi, if anything you might find the 7900X (The cpu) is a little temp happy

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not much you can do about it though

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the design of AM5 is IHS bottlenecked so throwing an amazing cooler or a pretty average cooler you'll see barely any improvements

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cos that IHS is stupid thick

little osprey
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the 7000 series i know likes to run hot

cyan ravine
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ye, the non 3d stuff

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3d stuff will run on basic coolers though

little osprey
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If you saw my flight sim setup you would die

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my stick and throttle and rudder pedals cost over 1500

cyan ravine
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hotas ye?

little osprey
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yep

cyan ravine
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ye I got a friend with multi-monitor and a hotas

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he had a phase with flight sim and elite dangerous lol

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can't remember which hotas tho

burnt plaza
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what do you see looking at this graph?

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cyan ravine
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and then aqua with the xoc vbios to go YEET

burnt plaza
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AMD states that the typical power should be 355

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i didn't realize there was this much variance between brands

cyan ravine
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this lines up perfectly with the merc310 thread with all their info yeah

burnt plaza
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so you could really mess up your pc buying some of these cards if you prepared for just the suggested wattage

cyan ravine
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mmmm....not really

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if you want bleeding edge? yes

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but, especially for XTX, more power isn't necessarily better

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the best chips have stupidly low asic scores

burnt plaza
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that's an outrageous amount of wattage xD

cyan ravine
burnt plaza
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might as well mine some crypto to mitigate the electric bill

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or put in solar just for your rig

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lolll

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the guy in the video even shows hacking a card and running it at 650 watts

cyan ravine
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ye

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evc modding is common on these cards for OC

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if you have ample cooling a 7900XTX will match a 4090 but will do it at like, 700+W

burnt plaza
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when i see the tighter numbers on the left, i see efficiency loll

cyan ravine
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kinda yeah

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I think gaming trio would be one of the only ones I'd avoid

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simply cos the phantom gaming is the highest tier and normally the same price

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is it a bad card tho? nah

burnt plaza
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take ray tracing out of the equation, and i bet they're comparable at normal tdp

cyan ravine
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?

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you mean 4090?

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yes

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ray tracing out and power yeeted they're very comparable

burnt plaza
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yes

cyan ravine
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but even ray tracing in and an XTX grows ever closer to be similar in perf to 4080 just at normal numbers

burnt plaza
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i don't understand the allure of raytracing, especialy at 4k, when you'll get 30fps in cyberpunk on the best rig xD

cyan ravine
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pretty much

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ray tracing is like

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for that 1 in 10

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you're 1 of 2 people

burnt plaza
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did you ever play Black Desert?

cyan ravine
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the 1 in 10 that use it every day and indulge in it

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or the 9 in 10 that use it for a week and never again

cyan ravine
burnt plaza
burnt plaza
cyan ravine
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lol

burnt plaza
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that is, it will tank your fps

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looks amazing though xD

cyan ravine
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LOL I bet

burnt plaza
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people complaining about games/gpus that don't handle ray tracing well or at all make me think of people complaining who are trying to play in Black Deserts super-mega-ultra graphics mode

cyan ravine
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so hey, you wanna take a look at the mobos now?

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cos I might need to head off soon

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I'll have a look too on pcpp, one sec

burnt plaza
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and, from all of the comparisons and tests i've seen between numerous content creators over the years, it seems that if someone wants to enjoy raytracing, they should just play with a $2000 gpu on 1080p

cyan ravine
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try looking in here

burnt plaza
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hahaha

cyan ravine
burnt plaza
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i'll look over it! i'm pretty familiar with the ol part picker

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it's a window shopper's dream maker

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like, i wish content creators would do the gaming community a favor, and quit testing on raytracing

cyan ravine
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like just an example

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only 125 and you get a full white mobo

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or this

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I think MSI has an X670-p for 150 still on B&H?

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all these mobos would run a completely unlocked 7950X no problems

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you could use this with a red hyte Y40

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full red aesthetic lol

mossy venture
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i dont know if i hate or love that mobos look

cyan ravine
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it's actually a ridiculously good mobo

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would argue it's asrock's best in the last few years

manic cloak
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ngl

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it reminds me of TNTina's color scheme from fortnite 💀

cyan ravine
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💀

burnt plaza
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i would love white and blue, but i don't think it would fit

cyan ravine
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we could do a white and blue build

burnt plaza
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unless i dispose of my current furniture and flip it all out

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loll

cyan ravine
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that's actually not too hard

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I could make something fairly cheap

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give me a couple minutes I'll send a list

burnt plaza
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if ultra gas is feasible, i'm good with that, otherwise i'm good with plus, but don't hook me up aith that 87 octane petrol xD

cyan ravine
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ofc my guy

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reference for the ram:

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OR

burnt plaza
cyan ravine
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anywhere you see rgb

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think Blue lights

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you can change them

burnt plaza
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oh nice!

cyan ravine
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lol

mossy venture
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could go notte 240 white for the asthetic of an aio if you want to spend the extra $30 for it, it would be purely for the look of it though it's not needed at all on a 7800x3d

cyan ravine
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oh yeah you could

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one sec I'll link that

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the notte could go in the side chamber of the o11 air mini perfectly

mossy venture
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or frozen magic

cyan ravine
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ye magic is only like 57$

burnt plaza
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green is sort of Razer's thing, right?

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cyan ravine
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uh

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yeah?

burnt plaza
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i wonder if it can be made blue

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xD

cyan ravine
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it can

mossy venture
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there is not a single razer product aside from a couple mice I would recommend

cyan ravine
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but you'd have green fluid

burnt plaza
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ooh i thought the light was refracted through the liquid

cyan ravine
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and also yeah same, razer anything just about is a pass nowadays

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nah they used a themed liquid

burnt plaza
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thus giving it the color

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ah nvm

cyan ravine
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that stuff is messy too

burnt plaza
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still looks cool

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i believe it! xD

cyan ravine
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solid colour liquids like that clog up waterloops a lot

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it's better to use clear fluids

burnt plaza
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i could see that...i'm still on the fence about a water cooler

cyan ravine
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the aio water coolers are fine

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you don't need to worry about leaks

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they're sealed from the factory so you can't open them

burnt plaza
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i don't want to liquidate my assets due to a faulty line xD

cyan ravine
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(or rather difficult to)

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yeah I getcha

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it's only if you like the aesthetic tho

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it would certainly look really good in this build

mossy venture
burnt plaza
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right, i think it looks cool as well, but i've just heard some bad stories

mossy venture
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though again not needed over the 214xt

burnt plaza
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ah, yea, i've heard a great deal about the peerless assassin

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ooh brb

mossy venture
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thermalright as a whole is just amazing right now

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best price/perf at basically every tier of cooling except high high end

cyan ravine
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and dual ccd ryzen*

mossy venture
burnt plaza
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ok back

cyan ravine
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👀

burnt plaza
cyan ravine
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so what you think of the lists my guy?

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anything you think you might want to change? or any other questions burning?

mossy venture
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only thing I can think of is will the d.f2 handle the transients of xtx?

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it's B tier instead of the d.f being a tier

cyan ravine
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I mean considering nominal power of the system? you'd be using maybe 450-ish watts

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it would probably capture the transients

mossy venture
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if you trust it I trust it, i trust your judgement

cyan ravine
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easily fixed by swapping to the gf1 snow instead

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and then a white psu instead too

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👀

mossy venture
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wasn't gf1 moved to B tier too?

cyan ravine
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I still consider it A tier

mossy venture
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fair enough

cyan ravine
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some people simp that psu really hard lmao

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otherwise option 3

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GF3

mossy venture
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xpg core reactor I'd say would be next step up, but not white

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or is masterwatt A tier?

cyan ravine
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how much is core reactor

mossy venture
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sorry, toughpower

mossy venture
cyan ravine
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prolly this

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cyan ravine
mossy venture
cyan ravine
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that's A?

mossy venture
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I'm not sure

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it's either A or B

cyan ravine
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I think I'd just do GF3

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if I was worried

mossy venture
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yeah that's fair

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could always just uv it a bit, better performance and lower spikes

cyan ravine
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GF1 GF3 should both be fine

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D.F.2 I'd expect to be fine too but I haven't done reading on it yet

mossy venture
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I think gf3 is actually worse at transients than gf1 but I'm not sure

cyan ravine
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GF3 is the 12vhpwr

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iirc it's better no?

mossy venture
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d.f 2 i think is kinda similar to evga GT, really solid B tier but not good enough to be A

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or like cxf

mossy venture
cyan ravine
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time to open that list lmao

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it's A

mossy venture
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gf3 is?

cyan ravine
mossy venture
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oh sick

cyan ravine
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gf1 snow is also A

mossy venture
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oh the snow is different than the regular one?

cyan ravine
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regular gf1 is also A but it lists a revision

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mossy venture
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def fine for an xtx then

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ahh

cyan ravine
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D.F 2 is speculative B

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so yeah GF1 or GF3 then

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we're back to the GF days

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gloo ten free

mossy venture
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i miss the days when rmx was well priced

cyan ravine
mossy venture
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650 for $65 750 for $75 and 850 for $100-110

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asus tuf was nice too for budget builds when it was like $45

cyan ravine
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indeed

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well until the noble gasses are rescued from war we'll be stuck with these elevated prices 💀

cyan ravine
burnt plaza
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i'm here, sorry, was doing stuff around the house real quick, up and down, and you guys were talking xD

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and i have far too many tabs open and trying to organize them lol

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i'd really liek to try out edge's side-screen tabs (idk what they're officially called) bc i get too many and can't read them ofc and sometimes don't even recognize the icon loll

cyan ravine
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lol it's all good

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just cos I wanna make sure you seem pleased with the choices before I head off

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lol

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It's a full white build with an o11 and like, 99% the same performance

burnt plaza
cyan ravine
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ahhh

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strix

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nzxt

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unifans

burnt plaza
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no nonono no not the parts just the colors xD

cyan ravine
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oh the colours?

dusky hearth
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to earn the right to work

cyan ravine
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the build I helped you with should be very similar in colour

burnt plaza
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i need to go back and look through it

cyan ravine
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you could get custom cables

burnt plaza
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right

cyan ravine
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oh no worries I'll link it rq

mossy venture
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could also add more fans, c12c 3 packs are really cheap

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and great fans

burnt plaza
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can you allow me to edit it?

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or i'll make my own from yours

mossy venture
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you should just be able to click "edit this part list"

cyan ravine
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boop

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ye click edit and ask us about some suggestions

mossy venture
burnt plaza
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those trident z royals are...beautiful FermiTaco

cyan ravine
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fun fact about trident z sticks

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they fall apart on their own

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like literally, one day you'll be playing games

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CLANG BANG CLUNK

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"WHU-WHAT??"

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the external sinks they put on (you know the pretty silver ye), they fall off all on their own quite often

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I've had trident neo's fall apart on me myself and I know a few people who've had the experience

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if you want g.skills, I'd recommend flare x5 or ripjaws s5

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those look cheap but they're actually functionally way better

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or if you want something a bit cleaner then the lexar sticks, I'd do teamgroup deltas

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kingston fury's are also quite nice

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oloys are excellent

mossy venture
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teamgroup deltas look really nice imo

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oloy imo is a bit over the top, the warhawk i think they're called

cyan ravine
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no warhawks

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blades

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blades are just, king

mossy venture
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the blades are really nice yeah

cyan ravine
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yeah definitely not those kek

mossy venture
cyan ravine
mossy venture
cyan ravine
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both the ones you linked are hynix

mossy venture
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thought samsung could do 5600c32 now?

cyan ravine
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no?

mossy venture
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oh mb

cyan ravine
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samsung 5600 is normally 36-36-36-76(?)

burnt plaza
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@cyan ravine thanks for all your help, i'm still here, just working on multiple things along with your list

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why'd your name turn grey and it say "Verified Mod Abuse"? lolll

cyan ravine
burnt plaza
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oh, mods messing with you, got it

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happy bday!

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ig

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i admin a server, i get it xD

cyan ravine
primal linden
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holy it’s felix birthday

cyan ravine
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so I'll be dipping in a bit, but I'll still be on pc, give me a ping if you need something

cyan ravine
primal linden
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happy birthday

cyan ravine
mossy venture
cyan ravine
burnt plaza
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uh oh...gettin closer xD

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my bf's 29 and already talking like he's having a midlife crisis. i'm like, bruh, chill. lolll. makes me feel old. xD

burnt plaza
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in spite of how i stated earlier that i appreciate aesthetics, i still value form over function. it's just that, if i find something displeasing to the eye, it will drive me mad...

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as for function, if i think i took a budget route thus bottlenecked myself in some way, i will give in and upgrade in some other way lol

viral ore
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doesnt have to look cool to be aesthetically pleasing

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i used this case for a while

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black box

manic cloak
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That’s the laptop

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Only 8gb ver too

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I’m definitely trying to haggle down to 200$

mossy venture
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I'd say 300 would be a decent price for it

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350 highest I'd go

manic cloak
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Ah man, he said he’s got someone wanting to do 400$ for it 💀

storm arrow
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About to order this ssd just wanna make sure it's the right choice, solidigm p44 pro 2tb for a premium no budget

burnt plaza
storm arrow
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Same price

burnt plaza
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yea, in comparison, the only difference i see is that the solidigm says TDC and the corsair says 3d TDC

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i'm not sure if that's anything more than just a marketing thing

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like, oh you're TDC, well WE'RE 3D TDC...

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where the TD just stands for three dimensional anyways lol

stoic island
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Grab p44 pro, better nand than mp600 pro

storm arrow
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Okay

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I think I have everything now but the psu I forgot what bacca recommended

burnt plaza
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good price

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and I think an 850 should cover most anything...and platinum efficiency!

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maybe this helps

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stoic island
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On the pretty expensive side

stoic island
# burnt plaza maybe this helps

Efficiency rating isn't completely reflective of the PSU efficiency, every PSU is slightly different, for example, even though the Corsair CX-F is rated for bronze, it exceeds the efficiency requirements for silver, and can match gold

earnest olive
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make sure it fits in your system, it's larger than average power supplies

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has a 140mm fan and all

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also isn't the hx850 kind of old? or have they refreshed it

burnt plaza
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6.30"x5.91"x3.39"

stoic island
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Hx is a couple of years old, but it's still good

earnest olive
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possible you could get new old stock of a unit that's already probably a few years old

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just keep that in mind

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might not be the best option for "futureproofing"

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I really just wouldn't try to "futureproof" a power supply right now

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future is uncertain

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atx 3.0? atx12vo? both???

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who knows how long an overkill power supply today will stay relevant

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maybe atx12vo takes over in 5 years

burnt plaza
earnest olive
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what's your cpu/gpu?

stoic island
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Tbf a nearly 10 year old g2 will do just fine right now, a lot of decent units will last you a long time either way, but new standards might make them incompatible

earnest olive
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yeah that's what I was saying

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the future is uncertain as far as standards

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atx 3.0 psus are already becoming more common now

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that can be solved fairly easily with an adapter

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but what about atx12vo

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I just wouldn't overspend with the intent to keep it for 12 years

stoic island
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Yea

earnest olive
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if you got an i9+4090 rig sure 850w is justified

burnt plaza
storm arrow
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7800x3d and still deciding on 4090 or 7800 xtx

earnest olive
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if you got a midrange rig it's not

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850w is pretty overkill for 7800x3d/4090 tbh

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7800x3d draws less than 100 watts under max load

earnest olive
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now we're at the point where standards may change within the next few years

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that's the difference

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that's why I asked what your cpu/gpu is

burnt plaza
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I originally put a CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650 W ATX12V in it in 2013, but died in 2014 lolll

earnest olive
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if you have like an i5+4080 there is no reason to overspend on such a psu

stoic island
earnest olive
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or 7800x3d and anything

mossy venture
earnest olive
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three dimensional three dimensional

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lol

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three dimensional thermal design current

burnt plaza
stoic island
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I think it's 3d tlc lol

earnest olive
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anyways back to work

burnt plaza
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like, they just 3D in front to make it look superior? ig

earnest olive
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probably

stoic island
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They're all technically 3d

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Hell, the p44 pro is more 3d than the mp600 pro

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P44 pro used 176 layer tlc, mp600 pro uses 96l layer tlc

burnt plaza
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oh yea, i guess it is tlc

mossy venture
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what price are they tho?

burnt plaza
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they were the same

mossy venture
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oh yeah p44 pro easy choice

storm arrow
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109

burnt plaza
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although the p44 was marked down quite a bit

mossy venture
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if gaming though I'd certainly take 670p for $65 for bascially the same experience

burnt plaza
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while the mp600 was just default 109 iirc

stoic island
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Mp34 2tb for 70$ is also pretty chill, the classic e12 drive

manic cloak
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Good drive

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I have it

storm arrow
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So I understand and 4090 is way overpriced but is it the king

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Not by much?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
burnt plaza
earnest olive
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yeah it's pretty common for psus from 2010 to still be chugging along at the moment

mossy venture
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Didn't hx come out in like 2011?

earnest olive
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as long as you aren't expecting them to handle the transient spikes of a 3090

mossy venture
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Or axi?

earnest olive
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something like that

mossy venture
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@little osprey it's not a great price, but white 7800xt in stock for $540 https://shop.asus.com/us/90yv0jp0-m0aa00-asus-tuf-gaming-radeontm-rx-7800-xt-white-oc-edition-16gb-gddr6.html

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Best price/perf you'll get a white gpu for right now aside from used

little osprey
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The other one I was looking at is a 12GB $570

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Much appreciated

mossy venture
#

3080 12gb I'd say is around 5-10% better than 7800xt

manic cloak
#

What psu should I get if I did 13600k + 6950xt on a z690 ddr4

#

Any A or B 850w right?

mossy venture
#

750w would be fine, but right now I'd recc d.f 2 850w

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$90 B tier

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Otherwise there's gf3 750w for I think $95, or xpg core reactor 850 for $105

little osprey
mossy venture
#

Then I'd say your choices are 3080 10gb open box/refurb, 6800xt, 7800xt, 6950xt, or used

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3080 12gb at $570 is meh compared to $405-430 3080 10gb

little osprey
#

Do either of these brands offer a anti sag bracket?

mossy venture
#

Anti sag brackets don't have to be from the same brand as the manufacturer

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You could make one out of Legos and it'd function the same

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Unless you're asking if they come with one?

little osprey
#

I would prefer it does, but it's not the end of the world if they don't

teal dome
#

The new slim cards come with them

little osprey
#

XFX?

mossy venture
#

The aibs website should say what's included in the box

little osprey
#

?

mossy venture
#

Like, gigabytes website

little osprey
#

Ooooh okay

earnest olive
short yoke
#

Strix equals performance

chrome gale
#

We ran into other issues😅 and had to get going. (We moved the ram, and swapped SATA connectors, andthe screen didnt turn on) we un did everything we did (swapped back to the same SATA and Ram slot) and the screen didnt turn on again (i tried the connection and restarting) we are going to go again on Monday.

vague oracle
earnest olive
dusky hearth
#

betterer

vague oracle
#

That’s Tuf

dusky hearth
#

wait

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is strix or proart more expensive

earnest olive
#

that's why I bought scalped GPU! they cost more so they are better than retail

vague oracle
#

Strix

dusky hearth
#

damn

vague oracle
#

Hmm, should I build a proart PC?

earnest olive
#

why buy $700 3080 when you can buy $1900 3080

vague oracle
#

Why buy $700 3080 when $50 GT710, it’s NVidia it’s already better than the 7900xtx

dusky hearth
#

$50 gt710? why not a $100 gt710

earnest olive
#

NO! bigger number better

vague oracle
#

$25 HD6800 then

lone flame
little osprey
#

@mossy venture @earnest olive I have bought the parts thank you so much

little osprey
lone flame
little osprey
pseudo pollen
#

You have to talk here if you want to comment on my build

white matrix
#

i was wondering what the naming scheme for m.2s was. like what's the difference in Samsung 970 Evo and Samsung 980 Evo or WD Black SN850 and WD Black SN750 and whats a good price for ssds

cyan ravine
#

That last question I'd love to answer

#

Definitely not any of the 4 you're curious about lol

#

Good price would vary on your use

#

Doing like, large data, video editing? Get a gen 4 m.2. Rarely even a gen 5 would make any sense

#

A fast one

#

But for basically everyone else? Just the cheapest best

#

670p 2tb is like, $63? And a solid pick

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Or msi m450 1tb for $27

fleet heron
#

yea dont be like me and avoid 980s

cyan ravine
#

well the tangible benefits of going for a premium ssd for anything else is basically nill

#

you get a faster windows, and in the rare, rare instance faster copying over of maybe a game or something from another drive

white matrix
cyan ravine
#

not worth the time of anything extra, even in the case of games with directstorage (the improvements are minimal at best)

cyan ravine
#

just clearing the air on those cos they're hot choices lol

white matrix
#

yea im just confust cause theres a lot of different names and i dont understand

#

gpus cpus mobos all make enough since but go no clues with storage

white matrix
cyan ravine
#

It's good you think that way cos the marketing on storage is the biggest misleader in pc marketing imo

#

second only to like, psu's

white matrix
#

whats up with psus?

cyan ravine
#

so you know how they say like, "GOLD" "SILVER" "PLATINUM"

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and "High quality japanese capacitors"

#

yadda yadda

white matrix
#

yea

cyan ravine
#

that's all a measure of efficiency

#

not quality

#

so the things you actually want to worry about, they never market lmao

#

like over volt protection

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over current protection

#

transient protection

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surge protection

#

etc etc

#

all those things they never talk about

#

you could have a bronze psu and it's actually far safer than a gold psu for this reason

white matrix
#

can you figure them out or are you just out of luck

cyan ravine
#

at face glance? nah

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I would ask in here for advice on that one

#

same with SSD's

white matrix
#

kk thx for the info

earnest olive
little osprey
earnest olive
#

that is a pretty clean looking card

little osprey
burnt plaza
#

just realized (a little late) that I can't do a white build with this black 7900xtx loll

#

i definitely don't want to go with a monochrome theme uggghh

earnest olive
#

why not?

#

i like my black and white build

cyan ravine
#

You could always paint the shroud if you weren't afraid to disassemble

#

Or vertical mount would pop off a lot of the white

#

You won't get a mono black build either with that trio lol

potent portal
burnt plaza
#

not a fan of that really

#

however, maybe an accent...if there were another accent

latent condor
#

Does anyone know if 3060 with ryzen 5 3600 is good

#

5600*

burnt plaza
#

ok i'm falling asleep pumping bumping into things around the house

strong raft
burnt plaza
#

I was actually greatly considering the vertical mount...that's one of the selling points!

primal linden
#

is C tier 650 watts for a RX 6800 good

mossy venture
#

Ehhh

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What model

primal linden
#

thermaltake grand rgb

mossy venture
#

Isn't that B tier?

primal linden
#

don’t think so

mossy venture
#

One sec

#

Tough power rgb gold is B tier

#

Plat is A tier

primal linden
#

oh wow

mossy venture
#

Than a third variant with some other letters in the name is C tier

#

But how much is the psu?

#

Is it the $75 one after the rebate

primal linden
#

yes

mossy venture
#

One sec

#

The tough power rgb gold would be fine with a 6800 though

primal linden
#

i guess I can spare some munney

mossy venture
#

Just because rebates are annoying, takes up to a few months to get the $15

mossy venture
#

I'm stupid lol

lyric thistle
#

I don't think I got to cash in my 450br rebate

mossy venture
#

Then probably just the tough power rgb

lyric thistle
#

This looks just like my grandpa's old psu

#

Haha wait I think it is

#

Legit

chrome gale
#

So, we were playing with it today, and got a new SSD of the same type. We tried to install windows, and it found both SSDs this time. So now it has 4TBs of SSDs.

#

But now we are having issues as the MB which has Wifi Capabilities is not getting wifi.

dusky hearth
#

You can't get wifi until you get the drivers for it

chrome gale
#

Even tho its in the same room. Going to try checking if we have Bluetooth tomorrow.

#

We only found the LAN drivers for the Arourus 650. We found the drivers for WLAN 550.

#

Gonna call their tech support tomorrow.

dusky hearth
#

WLAN is wifi drivers yes

#

Is it a mediatek wifi chip or an intel

chrome gale
dusky hearth
#

Amd can use intel wifi

#

Though mobo manufacturers do tend to use the cheaper mediatek

#

Just to confirm, you have the b650 elite ax?

#

Non ax doesn't have wifi

chrome gale
#

We have the elite AX

#

I can check more tommorrow.

dusky hearth
#

The wifi drivers are there

#

Wlan+bt tab

chrome gale
#

We are going to try installing those drivers via flashdrive.

dusky hearth
#

Pick the amd ones I guess, idk why there are intel ones there as well lmao

#

Yeah that'll work

chrome gale
dusky hearth
#

Alr

strong raft
#

Perhaps just get the newest driver. If you're wondering why there's also Intel drivers listed for an amd mobo:

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potent portal
dusky hearth
#

i know that intel makes wifi chipsets that work on amd, i've even mentioned it earlier, but this confuses me lmao

potent portal
#

Yeah, it's because that's the chipsets they might use. The same model board might have 4 different chipset options.

dusky hearth
#

i see

#

how does the common consumer know which one to download though lmao

earnest olive
dusky hearth
#

💀

potent portal
#

You can tell in device manager too

earnest olive
#

average consumers probably don't know about device manager

potent portal
#

I knew about device manager when I was 8 though

#

I also fought my way through manually allocating resources in bios so I could use my joystick on the game port

#

So maybe I don't count still

earnest olive
#

that was a different era of computing

#

had to know something about computers to use them

potent portal
earnest olive
#

yeah

#

imagine actually having to know anything about your machine

#

decrepit old man

#

smh

little osprey
#

Why is bro being so mean

potent portal
#

People like to joke about me being the second oldest out of the regulars

#

I'm ok with it lol

little osprey
#

You should beat them up

#

Show the mushroom who’s boss

potent portal
#

I don't think my arthritis will let me

earnest olive
#

if he beats me up i'm just going to crumble into a pile of dust

primal linden
#

do wifi mobos’s comes with Bluetooth

potent portal
#

yes

primal linden
#

ok

little osprey
primal linden
#

decrepit men

round cloud
little osprey
round cloud
#

Why? I like the size of the AP201

manic cloak
#

@round cloud do you wantclike basic atx? Micro atx?

round cloud
#

I have no strict requirements, but want to keep things on the smaller side

#

Originally i was looking at small form factor, but decided to upgrade to "medium" form

manic cloak
#

And what gpu do you think of getting?

#

Like 6800xt? 6950xt?

#

7800xt, or even nivida counterparts?

round cloud
#

Probably 6950xt or something

manic cloak
#

@round cloud cause there’s some good deals w the list I have of your build, just I wanna know what card so I could find like a microatx case that’ll work for you

#

Okok

round cloud
#

I'm also in no rush and like good deals. But I like name brand stuff

manic cloak
#

And are you 100% you want an AIO at 240?

manic cloak
#

1000w B tier for 89.99 on amazon

round cloud
manic cloak
#

That’s like over kill but it’s real good price

round cloud
#

Cool and quiet for a little more money sounds good. Not sure about upkeep.

manic cloak
#

Also

#

The thing that makes the most sound in my computer is my gpu, I got a pa120 se and you can barely hear it

#

Sure during the night it’s more obvious but it’s more like white sound yk? It blends in

round cloud
#

i'd spend slightly more to get a gpu with a better fan or whatever

manic cloak
#

Hmm alright hold on

cyan ravine
#

It's quite good actually

little osprey
#

But alright

manic cloak
#

Well

#

Ap201 is good but it wouldn’t fit his 6950xt upgrade if he did so

cyan ravine
#

It should

#

It'll have clearance up to like 360mm with the right psu

manic cloak
#

338mm

cyan ravine
#

I helped make this list

manic cloak
#
  • I think he should get the 1000w one
#

Best price rn for overkill

cyan ravine
#

Ya man, you change the psu config you can get basically to the very end of the case

#

As long as a 360 aio

manic cloak
#

True

cyan ravine
#

Also pg gaming 6950 fits

#

Which is basically always the cheapest

manic cloak
round cloud
#

I mean i dont necessarily need 6950

manic cloak
#

Idk if that would work out even.

round cloud
#

But like, a step down from the top of the line stuff is what Im thinkin

manic cloak
cyan ravine
manic cloak
cyan ravine
#

The 7800x3d works on a stock cooler it doesn't need anything serious

#

Practically cool it with an ice cube

manic cloak
#

What abt psu?

cyan ravine
#

Any short 140mm modular

#

The gf1 snow would work

manic cloak
cyan ravine
#

I would only swap from the rmx psu really

manic cloak
cyan ravine
#

130 is way too much for a 850w @round cloud

manic cloak
#

Imo

#

I wouldn’t even get the white ram

#

Cause you aren’t gonna see it

cyan ravine
#

Hmmm

manic cloak
#

Unless you have a glass panel

cyan ravine
#

I suppose? But you can kinda see through the mesh

manic cloak
#

Otherwise rgb is gonna glow

cyan ravine
#

It's the same price anyway

manic cloak
#

2$ diff

#

But true

cyan ravine
#

That's the same lol

manic cloak
round cloud
cyan ravine
#

Stick of gum here kekw

round cloud
#

i mean im not opposed

#

but yall both put one on there

#

is it needed?

cyan ravine
manic cloak
#

^

cyan ravine
#

Not needed no

potent portal
manic cloak
#

Plus I think it’d be a better idea

#

To have like a boot drive on an nvme than an sata

cyan ravine
#

Honestly what you had was really good mike just swap the psu to one of the ones we suggested

round cloud
#

I've read some stuff on the internet about the PSU being difficult/weird to fit so kinda wanted to go with a smaller one but TBH IDK

cyan ravine
#

Ye udgm and gf1 snow I believe are very short

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

Also go to a620m motherboard over b650m imo

#

They're basically identical motherboards

#

1's 25$ cheaper

manic cloak
manic cloak
cyan ravine
#

Slight IO difference, performance is identical

cyan ravine
#

I normally see those as short kekw

potent portal
round cloud
#

Thx for ur help guys

cyan ravine
#

Yeah ryzen cpu overclocking has 0 benefit here

#

Cos 7800x3d is locked

potent portal
#

Yep

cyan ravine
#

So basically no benefits whatsoever

#

And that's even if you consider ryzen cpu oc to give anything meaningful

#

It really doesn't

#

At least in a gaming sense anyway

potent portal
#

Generally, you're right. +200 MHz on a 4.8GHz processor is only +4%

cyan ravine
#

In testing in games it's normally identical or sometimes worse

manic cloak
#

pcie gen 5

#

Is that anything useful?

potent portal
#

Nope

cyan ravine
#

Not really

#

We haven't saturated gen 4 yet

manic cloak
#

Ah

cyan ravine
#

And gen 5 ssd's are hot piles of trash for basically only movie editors

round cloud
#

Does wifi matter on a mobo? Is the quality all pretty standard? unfortuantely no hard wire atm

potent portal
#

There's some SSDs that can use 5.0 but they're really hot and I wouldn't use them day to day

cyan ravine
#

All standard

#

You get like 4 brands of wifi

#

Intel is the most common

manic cloak
#

I’d prefer wifi built on a board then buying a kit

potent portal
#

Intel wifi on AMD mobo confuses people sometimes lol

round cloud
#

I have a new router that prob has whatever new features etc

cyan ravine
#

They all use the same chips at the end of the day

#

Connected to two antenna's

round cloud
#

my 8700 2070 setup is like

#

just starting to not be enough

#

i can probably wait a bit

#

but

#

you know

cyan ravine
#

2070 is a little bit getting on now

#

Looking at a comfortable 1080p experience with it

round cloud
#

Yea im locked into 1440p

potent portal
#

At least it's new enough to use DLSS

cyan ravine
#

Yeah you'd want to upgrade soon then

#

How much more could you stretch budget mike? I could fit a gpu in this for a bit more

potent portal
#

Good old DLSS balanced mode should get you to 1440p in most games, barring extreme ones like we've seen recently

round cloud
#

What do u guys think of my upgrade plan? Is the 7800x3d overkill

manic cloak
#

Ngl it is

#

Imo atleast

#

7600 would be just as good tbh

cyan ravine
#

It's very overkill but you'd have something insane for a long time

manic cloak
#

Use that money to buy a better gpu

potent portal
#

It's overkill now, but it'll keep you from needing to upgrade any time in the next 5 years or so

manic cloak
#

Then again

#

You don’t need to upgrade in the next 5 years

#

Unless something broke

cyan ravine
#

Let's see if I can fit that 6800xt in for a $200 stretch

potent portal
#

On the other other hand, AM5 is supposed to be another long life platform so we expect another 3 gens or so

round cloud
#

so maybe like 7700x and a $600-$700 GPU?

manic cloak
manic cloak
#

Ofc multi core 13600k shreds

cyan ravine
#

Or 150 more

manic cloak
#

But unless you’re playing Val or doing some editing then you’d have to worry

manic cloak
little osprey
cyan ravine
#

?

#

We don't need anything excessive

#

7800x3d uses 88w max

#

You can stick it in a thin n lite laptop

#

It's a really cold CPU it's not like 5800x3d

little osprey
#

I would sugest a diff case

potent portal
manic cloak
cyan ravine
#

Oh yeah I swapped to 7600

#

7600 is even colder

manic cloak
round cloud
cyan ravine
#

Seem better?

viral horizon
#

hey do you guys wanna see my setup

little osprey
#

If I was you the case should be changed

little osprey
cyan ravine
#

What's wrong with the case

viral horizon
cyan ravine
viral horizon
#

i have eyes on a better psu for only 15 dollars more but its out of stock rn so

little osprey
viral horizon
#

i havent even got them yet so

#

yeah

cyan ravine
manic cloak
little osprey
viral horizon
cyan ravine
manic cloak
viral horizon
round cloud
#

My wants in a case: smaller, non descript (i dont want it to look like a gamer case), easy to work with, decent to good airflow, preferably no glass

manic cloak
#

But otherwise your pc looks fine

viral horizon
#

not like me seeing it on tech deals

manic cloak
#

Ooooh.

viral horizon
#

i mean it was listed on pc part picker for around 73 dollars

cyan ravine
viral horizon
#

and i just got like 88 dollars worked for

#

so i was gonna buy that next

cyan ravine
#

For your specs the apevia would be fine

viral horizon
#

i might aswell spend the rest on my windows key and adapter

#

the monitor is very generic

#

60 hz, more of a office one really

cyan ravine
#

Don't need to buy a windows key my guy

viral horizon
#

it was a hand me down and only does vga so i would also need a adapter

viral horizon
primal linden
cyan ravine
#

I'm not allowed to say how you get by this in this discord but you can

primal linden
#

ohh

viral horizon
little osprey
#

Windows is free

#

If you know what your doing

viral horizon
#

yeah

#

if its deactivated

little osprey
#

HEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEH

#

@viral horizon there is an easier way

cyan ravine
#

I'm heading out in a bit

little osprey
#

if you need the free windows dm me

#

just need a flash drive

viral horizon
#

bet

little osprey
#

dm e I can help

primal linden
little osprey
primal linden
#

ohh

little osprey
#

then upgrade to 11

#

if needed

primal linden
#

ima just order a flash drive with my parts

potent portal
#

If you're ok with sometimes getting a watermark on your screen and not being able to use the "personalization" menu then yeah you don't need to activate windows

viral horizon
#

ok so theres a github download that can give you a activation script for it?

little osprey
potent portal
#

You don't even need that really

little osprey
primal linden
#

so is the unholy method to get a windows key illegal or naw

potent portal
#

You literally don't even need a key, or to activate it using illicit means

#

You can just run the installer and tell it you'll activate later, and just never activate

primal linden
#

true

little osprey
#

@potent portal All you need is 1 download, a flash drive, and command prompt

viral horizon
#

alright

primal linden
#

what does windows 11 ready mean on the asus tur b550

little osprey
primal linden
#

ok

cyan ravine
#

Means it meets the basic specs for win11 to work

#

Which is basically just an ftpm and a working cpu coupled* with it

burnt stratus
#

motherboards with win 11 installed??

little osprey
burnt stratus
#

pretty sure that just means that you can use windows 11 with that computer

#

lol

little osprey
burnt plaza
#

they just got in the bios and made it win11 ready xD

little osprey
#

I was confused with my self

#

I meant windows 11 works with it

burnt stratus
cyan ravine
#

Even if the box doesn't say it, a new enough mobo is win 11 ready

#

Just a marketing sticker

little osprey
#

If windows 11 doesnt work thats a problom 💀

cyan ravine
#

I remember people buying expensive x570's and z590's purely for windows 11 when it dropped

#

Like bruh

little osprey
#

@cyan ravine I was told to make a 4k gaming PC 💀

#

Fix it

#

plz

burnt plaza
#

yea, i would imagine new bios versions for any mobos or new mobos in general would just be win11 ready ...already.

little osprey
#

I never had to deal with such high prices

cyan ravine
little osprey
#

plz

cyan ravine
#

That's like 1800 too much

#

Alr

little osprey
#

idk why the hell someone need a 4k gaming pc

#

bros building a NASA computer

burnt plaza
#

well most of it is that ridiculous gpu

little osprey
#

GPU is 2k

#

💀

burnt plaza
#

why do ppl kep up with the nvidia racket

little osprey
#

@cyan ravine Btw they REQUIRE a 4090

#

idk why

teal olive
#

whats a good price for this?

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burnt plaza
#

$1000, Drew

#

closest price without going over xD

#

Felix can find it for half that somehow

little osprey
#

Card has a low end cooler

#

Case is cheap

#

SSD is ehhh

teal olive
little osprey
#

Also the RAM I have my doubts about

#

“3200mz or whatever”

teal olive
#

bro im literally not smart with pcs

burnt plaza
teal olive
#

idk what its called

#

mhz

#

i think

little osprey
#

Is the kit mixed?

teal olive
#

wym mixed

#

what kit?

little osprey
#

Did you buy the RAM in a 2x16 kit

cyan ravine
mossy venture
cyan ravine
teal olive
little osprey
#

Then it’s not mixed

mossy venture
#

7950x3d not worth over 7800x3d in a gaming only build

teal olive
cyan ravine
burnt plaza
cyan ravine
little osprey
burnt plaza
#

and then ther's tax

#

and shipping

cyan ravine
#

That's literally as fast as it gets lol

little osprey
burnt plaza
#

you mean $4k or 4k?

obsidian wigeon
#

it's as fast as it gets

little osprey
#

idk make the motherboard 500 dollars 💀

obsidian wigeon
#

that's overkill

#

and unnecessary

little osprey
#

they want a 4k one idk

mossy venture
little osprey
#

THEy want a NASA computer

mossy venture